UFO Roundtable: CIA Physicist Proves Aliens Exist!

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[00:00] There has been an 80-year cover up of the existence of non-human intelligent life covered up by elements of the US government.
[00:06] But this past Friday, the first trunch of evidence was released to the public.
[00:10] And the evidence is absolutely clear that there is some form of life with advanced technology.
[00:16] They're all over the place.
[00:17] But the people involved in gatekeeping this information don't think the public can handle the truth.
[00:21] People have had their lives threatened.
[00:22] A lot of them are afraid to come forward and tell the White House what they know.
[00:26] And this has been kept from even sitting presidents and I've interviewed highle intelligence officials and government officials and there have been UAP crashes over the years and in some cases the crashed crafts had the bodies of nonhumans in.
[00:37] And now we have people on ships seeing these things enter the water it's seen enough times under enough different conditions that we just have to accept that it's real.
[00:49] So what exactly is inside this report?
[00:52] We have so many sightings, even access to materials.
[00:56] And there's a number of files, reports, video, and still images that were
[01:01] video, and still images that were declassified.
[01:03] declassified. And the most notable piece of evidence in there is this.
[01:07] So, I have so many questions.
[01:08] You're probably familiar with this NASA report.
[01:09] They essentially say that they didn't believe that these UAPs are aliens.
[01:13] Why would NASA be lying?
[01:15] Is there a reason why this stuff hasn't been captured on like an iPhone?
[01:18] Are they currently living amongst us?
[01:20] And then do you trust the Trump administration to release all of the available information?
[01:23] I think eventually we'll get to that moment that we've all only seen in movies where sitting president steps to a microphone and tells the world we're not alone in the universe.
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[02:24] Dr. Harold Dan, I wanted to have a conversation with both of you today
[02:29] Dr. Harold Dan, I wanted to have a conversation with both of you today
[02:32] conversation with both of you today because you are two of the most popular
[02:33] because you are two of the most popular voices online on this subject of UAPs,
[02:35] voices online on this subject of UAPs, which is unidentified anomalous
[02:38] which is unidentified anomalous phenomena.
[02:40] phenomena. >> Right. Exactly.
[02:41] >> Right. Exactly. >> It has been in all the news recently
[02:41] It has been in all the news recently because Trump a couple of days ago
[02:43] because Trump a couple of days ago released 400 classified files containing
[02:45] released 400 classified files containing videos and photos and different reports
[02:47] videos and photos and different reports on this subject of UAPs.
[02:50] Now, I don't have an opinion.
[02:55] I I honestly haven't gone that far down the rabbit hole on this subject, but I wanted to
[02:57] haven't gone that far down the rabbit hole on this subject, but I wanted to have the conversation with both of you
[02:59] hole on this subject, but I wanted to have the conversation with both of you because you do have opinions.
[03:00] have the conversation with both of you because you do have opinions. So,
[03:01] because you do have opinions. So,
[03:04] because you do have opinions.
[03:07] So, starting with you, Dan, what is your background and as it relates to this subject of UAPs, what is it that you believe that most people don't know or understand?
[03:14] My interest in this topic comes from my childhood.
[03:18] And so, over the years, I just I read every book on the topic, watched every doc.
[03:22] I always wish someone had made a super serious, credible, sober documentary that only interviews people who have direct knowledge of this topic as a result of working for the US government.
[03:31] And so got into producing.
[03:34] As I was getting access to high level intelligence officials and government officials before I even filmed, I really quickly learned how serious and real the situation is and how uh serious it's treated behind the scenes.
[03:47] And you know, I made this movie, The Age of Disclosure, in secrecy over three and a half years.
[03:53] And I would say the headlines that I learned that the average person doesn't know is that there has in fact been an 80-year cover up of the existence of non-human intelligent life.
[04:02] It has been covered up by elements of the US government since
[04:06] by elements of the US government since at least the late 40s.
[04:09] Other nations have also covered this up.
[04:11] And the other major headline is that the people who within the US government that have been gatekeeping this, they've also been involved in a highstakes secret cold war race with adversarial nations like China and Russia to reverse engineer this technology of non-human origin.
[04:25] And and the stakes couldn't be higher.
[04:28] Those are the two massive headlines.
[04:31] And and I'm proud to say when the film came out, it created a national conversation uh at at an unprecedented level and it led to President Trump issuing this directive in the middle of February.
[04:41] Super unprecedented historic directive instructing federal agencies to start declassifying evidence it has they have of non-human intelligent life and UAP.
[04:53] And then that process began this past Friday.
[04:56] the first trunch of evidence was released to the public.
[05:00] And during the process of producing this documentary, who did you speak to?
[05:03] I got access to the highest levels of
[05:07] I got access to the highest levels of the government, military, and the government, military, and intelligence community.
[05:08] My interview subjects range from Secretary Rubio, who's also our National Security Adviser now, White House National Security Council members, Navy Fighter pilots, admirals, generals, former secretary of defense, uh the leadership of all the recent classified US government UAP investigations.
[05:10] My interview subjects range from Secretary Rubio, who's also our National Security Adviser now, White House National Security Council members, Navy Fighter pilots, admirals, generals, former secretary of defense, uh the leadership of all the recent classified US government UAP investigations.
[05:12] subjects range from Secretary Rubio, who's also our National Security Adviser now, White House National Security Council members, Navy Fighter pilots, admirals, generals, former secretary of defense, uh the leadership of all the recent classified US government UAP investigations.
[05:14] who's also our National Security Adviser now, White House National Security Council members, Navy Fighter pilots, admirals, generals, former secretary of defense, uh the leadership of all the recent classified US government UAP investigations.
[05:16] now, White House National Security Council members, Navy Fighter pilots, admirals, generals, former secretary of defense, uh the leadership of all the recent classified US government UAP investigations.
[05:19] Council members, Navy Fighter pilots, admirals, generals, former secretary of defense, uh the leadership of all the recent classified US government UAP investigations.
[05:21] admirals, generals, former secretary of defense, uh the leadership of all the recent classified US government UAP investigations.
[05:24] defense, uh the leadership of all the recent classified US government UAP investigations.
[05:27] recent classified US government UAP investigations.
[05:30] investigations. Every single person is extremely credible.
[05:32] extremely credible. Howal how is one of my interview subjects.
[05:35] my interview subjects. 's uh one of the most senior scientists uh to work on this topic for the US government in classified projects and him and all these other people interviewed.
[05:37] most senior scientists uh to work on this topic for the US government in classified projects and him and all these other people interviewed.
[05:39] this topic for the US government in classified projects and him and all these other people interviewed.
[05:42] classified projects and him and all these other people interviewed. They had a lot of information they could legally share over the years, but they were always discouraged from doing so and they never really had the opportunity to comfortably do it.
[05:43] They had a lot of information they could legally share over the years, but they were always discouraged from doing so and they never really had the opportunity to comfortably do it.
[05:45] a lot of information they could legally share over the years, but they were always discouraged from doing so and they never really had the opportunity to comfortably do it.
[05:47] share over the years, but they were always discouraged from doing so and they never really had the opportunity to comfortably do it.
[05:48] always discouraged from doing so and they never really had the opportunity to comfortably do it.
[05:50] they never really had the opportunity to comfortably do it.
[05:51] comfortably do it. No one wanted to be the one guy out on a limb saying something extraordinary on CNN or Fox or 60 Minutes and then being subject to the the push back and the ridicule.
[05:53] the one guy out on a limb saying something extraordinary on CNN or Fox or 60 Minutes and then being subject to the the push back and the ridicule.
[05:56] something extraordinary on CNN or Fox or 60 Minutes and then being subject to the the push back and the ridicule.
[05:58] 60 Minutes and then being subject to the the push back and the ridicule.
[06:00] the push back and the ridicule. And so when I realized that I I started socializing a plan for how to step out of the shadows arm and arm with safety
[06:03] when I realized that I I started socializing a plan for how to step out of the shadows arm and arm with safety
[06:06] socializing a plan for how to step out of the shadows arm and arm with safety
[06:08] of the shadows arm and arm with safety and numbers.
[06:09] and numbers.
[06:11] I'll pick up on that point there where you talked about safety and numbers.
[06:13] How he he mentioned you there.
[06:14] You're part of the documentary.
[06:16] I saw you as well in the trailer of the documentary.
[06:17] What is your background and why what reference points are you drawing on to speak on the subject of UAPs and UFOs etc?
[06:25] I'm a quantum physicist worked for the National Security Agency for various uh organizations in the intelligence community like CIA and so on.
[06:35] And so as part of my technical work uh I was also a consultant uh chief science adviser to Robert Bigalow of Bigalow Aerospace.
[06:43] He's really quite quite a titan.
[06:45] I mean he has two space stations orbiting the Earth.
[06:50] So anyway, th those people who are in in the space business and they're moving out into space, they just can't help but wondering, you know, what are we going to run into when when we get out there?
[07:02] As a science adviser to him, uh it turned out that the Defense Intelligence Agency came forward and said, uh, you know, we need to find out
[07:09] said, uh, you know, we need to find out uh really what's going on in the uh really what's going on in the so-called UAP area.
[07:13] so-called UAP area.
[07:15] So then they determined they were just going to start a UAP program.
[07:17] going to start a UAP program.
[07:19] That program they started was called OAP.
[07:21] They hired all the team for example HAL and that program started in 2008 um and
[07:26] and that program started in 2008 um and got a lot of push back behind the scenes
[07:28] got a lot of push back behind the scenes because it turned out when they looked
[07:30] because it turned out when they looked all over the intelligence community to
[07:31] all over the intelligence community to see if there was another UFO program and
[07:33] see if there was another UFO program and didn't think there was.
[07:35] Turns out there was one and there was a deeply hidden
[07:37] was one and there was a deeply hidden program referred to as the legacy
[07:38] program referred to as the legacy program and it had been operating in the
[07:41] program and it had been operating in the shadows since the ' 40s.
[07:44] Uh outside of congressional oversight, outside of the
[07:46] congressional oversight, outside of the oversight of the White House um
[07:48] oversight of the White House um completely, you know, off off
[07:50] completely, you know, off off completely hidden away.
[07:52] Yeah.
[07:55] As hidden as a program can be.
[07:56] And so they started pushing back behind the scenes against everyone involved in OSAP
[07:59] scenes against everyone involved in OSAP because they didn't want anyone else
[08:01] because they didn't want anyone else looking into this, right?
[08:03] started to cause a lot of bureaucratic issues for
[08:04] them, red tape issues and ultimately OAP lost its funding in 2010 despite the
[08:10] lost its funding in 2010 despite the fact that it was looking into very real issues like UAP over our nuclear weapon sites.
[08:16] It shut down in 2010.
[08:17] Why do you think it shut down?
[08:20] They were dealt uh these bureaucratic hurdles behind the scenes by people involved in the legacy program.
[08:23] People who just caused problems and prevented funding and it's a lot of you know it's a big bureaucracy.
[08:30] people can people can do things behind the scenes to prevent funding from coming through uh for programs.
[08:34] And so ultimately they lost their their funding in 2010.
[08:38] And then Jay Stratton and other people involved, they were continuing to look into this because they they didn't want this serious national security concern to go, you know, on uninvestigated, right?
[08:49] So that's how somebody like me gets pulled in.
[08:51] and they say, "Okay, these pilots are out there and they suddenly see craft coming out of the ocean and making right angle turns at 6G or whatever and they say, "Oh my god, this is way beyond our physics."
[09:03] So I and other physicists sort of dug into, you know, what could be responsible for this.
[09:07] And we actually found that just like we use so-called Maxwell's
[09:11] like we use so-called Maxwell's equations and electromagnetic stuff for equations and electromagnetic stuff for everything we do in electromagnetics, we have Einstein's equations in general relativity for, you know, black holes and all that kind of stuff.
[09:21] But it turns out if you could engineer those, you would actually get the same effects that people were observing with these UAP crafts.
[09:29] So, we think we've come up with, you know, what it is about uh the science of it.
[09:33] It's just that we don't have the engineering to do it.
[09:35] Do you believe in UAPs?
[09:37] Absolutely believe in UAPs because I've been exposed to data about them.
[09:45] A more specific question would be, do you believe in aliens?
[09:46] Yeah. So, a number of the people I interviewed went on the record stating that they know from their own personal experiences that there have been UAP crashes over the years that have been recovered by elements of the US government and in some cases the the crashed crafts had the bodies of nonhumans in them.
[10:07] And numerous people I interviewed went on the record saying
[10:13] interviewed went on the record saying that.
[10:15] And keep in mind, everyone I interviewed only shared what they lawfully could.
[10:18] There was a line they couldn't cross.
[10:19] Everyone I interviewed is aware of classified information they they they can't talk about, but they went right up to the line and uh made it clear that there had been recoveries of non-human bodies.
[10:28] A couple people actually testified under oath to Congress saying the same thing.
[10:33] Why wouldn't they be able to talk about it publicly?
[10:36] Well, when you're involved in certain programs, uh you sign certain agreements that prevent you from sharing, specific information, highly classified programs.
[10:45] And of course the big concern is okay whatever we might learn about these kind of craft and and so on.
[10:53] Our adversaries are out there and probably been there have been crashes in Russia, crashes in China and so if we reveal what we're learning about the subject area and you know said it publicly then it might help some potential adversary step get a step ahead.
[11:11] So that's why it's all just kept really
[11:13] that's why it's all just kept really close in.
[11:14] close in.
[11:16] So a saying that I heard often from my interview subjects, you can't tell your friends without telling your enemies.
[11:20] Meaning you can't tell the public what we know and don't know without also telling China and Russia what we know and don't know.
[11:27] And giving them that information might give them a competitive advantage.
[11:31] And the the obvious question anyone would ask when hearing that is then okay so what shifted?
[11:36] Why is why is that no longer the leading thought?
[11:38] Secrecy is best.
[11:40] And the answer is because the US is in a really high stakes race, a technology race against these adversaries to reverse engineer technology of non-human origin.
[11:51] And the secrecy around it in the US since the '40s has created a scenario where the scientific community and academia don't even know it's real.
[12:00] They don't even know it's a valid area of inquiry.
[12:02] Don't even believe it's real.
[12:04] Yeah.
[12:06] The smartest kids graduating at MIT this year, they are not thinking that this is something they can put their brain power towards.
[12:09] So, coming back to the question, do you believe in aliens?
[12:12] I 100% believe that non-human
[12:15] I 100% believe that non-human intelligent life is here and has been intelligent life is here and has been here for a long time.
[12:19] here for a long time.
[12:22] When you say here, do you mean currently living amongst us?
[12:24] I don't know about the living amongst us part about that.
[12:26] I don't know about that, but rule it out.
[12:28] There is there is UAP activity being reported on a daily basis by commercial airlines pilot commercial airline pilots the FAA by Navy fighter pilots off the east coast being reported you know up the military chain of command and on top of that uh regular activity over nuclear weapons sites inside the United States.
[12:48] It's happening on a regular basis uh on the on the nuclear sites and on a daily basis in commercial air travel space.
[12:57] UAP have come over nuclear uh missile sites and actually turned off the missiles and so you know once something like that happens you just got to take it seriously.
[13:09] And there the technology that they're displaying is technology that no humans have.
[13:14] And again there has been some crashes
[13:16] And again there has been some crashes and in those crashes there have been the.
[13:19] And in those crashes there have been the bodies of nonhumans.
[13:20] Bodies of nonhumans.
[13:20] How do we know that?
[13:22] How do we know that in those crashes they've recovered bodies of nonhumans?
[13:25] Bodies of nonhumans?
[13:25] They're whistleblowers basically coming forward from.
[13:27] They're whistleblowers basically coming forward from.
[13:28] So the basis of the that evidence is that some people have said it.
[13:30] So the basis of the that evidence is that some people have said it.
[13:32] At this point until until previously classified information regarding crashes is and recoveries is declassified.
[13:35] At this point until until previously classified information regarding crashes is and recoveries is declassified.
[13:38] Previously classified information regarding crashes is and recoveries is declassified.
[13:40] Regarding crashes is and recoveries is declassified.
[13:41] Declassified.
[13:41] Mhm.
[13:43] Until that happens, the best we could hope for is credible people putting their reputation on the line to tell you this is what's been happening.
[13:45] Could hope for is credible people putting their reputation on the line to tell you this is what's been happening.
[13:47] Putting their reputation on the line to tell you this is what's been happening.
[13:48] Tell you this is what's been happening.
[13:48] Did someone during your process of making the documentary who had seen non-alien non-human life, non-human intelligence tell you that?
[13:49] Did someone during your process of making the documentary who had seen non-alien non-human life, non-human intelligence tell you that?
[13:52] Making the documentary who had seen non-alien non-human life, non-human intelligence tell you that?
[13:55] Non-alien non-human life, non-human intelligence tell you that?
[13:57] Intelligence tell you that?
[13:58] Yeah.
[13:59] Who was that?
[13:59] A number of people, but notably, you know, uh Jay Stratton, who we just talked about.
[14:01] A number of people, but notably, you know, uh Jay Stratton, who we just talked about.
[14:03] Know, uh Jay Stratton, who we just talked about.
[14:03] Talked about.
[14:03] Yes.
[14:03] Right.
[14:05] Who co-created, co-founded OAP and then became the director of the UAP task force, the largest whole of government investigation of UAP ever.
[14:08] OAP and then became the director of the UAP task force, the largest whole of government investigation of UAP ever.
[14:09] UAP task force, the largest whole of government investigation of UAP ever.
[14:11] Government investigation of UAP ever.
[14:12] What did he say?
[14:12] He went on the record in the film saying that he's seen non-human beings and
[14:15] He went on the record in the film saying that he's seen non-human beings and
[14:17] that he's seen non-human beings and non-human craft with his own eyes.
[14:19] non-human craft with his own eyes.
[14:20] That was the farthest he could go at that point.
[14:20] point.
[14:23] Why did he say he couldn't go further?
[14:26] Uh he he he he had a situation that he was involved in that um for a few reasons.
[14:31] He wasn't he just wasn't comfortable talking about it yet.
[14:33] And some of it I think he just wanted to make sure he legally could.
[14:36] Now going back to credibility, like take a guy like Jay saying that when Jay retired a few years back, he was part of the senior executive services of the federal government.
[14:46] That's a level less than 1% of all federal employees ever reach.
[14:48] You know, it's the equivalent of a twostar admiral or general.
[14:53] Um very very senior, very trusted, you know, cleared at a very high level.
[14:56] Um he had worked with naval intelligence in a senior capacity.
[14:59] Uh he had worked with the CIA, he had worked with the Defense Intelligence Agency as the head of air and space warfare.
[15:08] He's a super serious, credible guy.
[15:09] Yeah.
[15:12] And he's he's he's putting his reputation on the line to share this information um to the extent that he legally could and comfortably could.
[15:18] And when you asked him why.
[15:21] And when you asked him why the world doesn't know this stuff in his view, what did he what would he say?
[15:25] There's a lot of reasons.
[15:26] I mean certainly the you know the idea that we can't tell our friends without telling our enemies has been a driver to just to recap the reasons for secrecy.
[15:34] I I I actually believe it it's better kind of start from the beginning when this f when when in 1947 there was a crash at Roswell of non-human origin and uh yeah.
[15:44] RA RAF captures flying saucer on ranch in Roswell region.
[15:48] Yeah that's right.
[15:49] and then this is the image of their coverup story trying to show a weather ballooner.
[15:53] Yeah.
[15:54] So, multiple people in my film go on the record saying the Roswell crash really happened.
[15:58] Uh, technology of non-human origin and non-human bodies were recovered.
[16:02] Um, if you put yourself in the shoes of the military and government at that point, like put yourself in Truman and, you know, Eisenhower shoes.
[16:08] You're just coming out of World War II.
[16:10] The world was just chaos for a very long time.
[16:11] It's finally starting to settle down.
[16:13] You can't exactly step to the microphone and tell America that there's a new threat that we know nothing about and we
[16:19] threat that we know nothing about and we can't protect you from.
[16:21] They're far advanced.
[16:23] You know what? what what's the advantage of that?
[16:26] So secrecy became the plan at that point and they had more questions than answers.
[16:29] So everyone I've talked to who gave me context uh explained that the the the the plan for secrecy went in motion there.
[16:38] Uh let's investigate.
[16:41] Let's find out more about what we don't know before we tell the American people.
[16:42] That was quickly followed by the Cold War era and we learned that Russia also had retrieved technology of non-human origin.
[16:48] And so we knew we were in a technology race.
[16:50] So then the idea of can't tell your friend without telling your enemy ruled the day.
[16:55] So now the cold war mentality, you know, led to more secrecy and as a security rapper for this this program that it that it started.
[17:04] Uh they created the stigma in the late 40s early 50s.
[17:07] This cultural stigma, this idea that you're crazy if you look into this topic, you're wacky.
[17:10] You'll have your reputation ruined.
[17:12] You'll have your career ruined.
[17:14] Yeah, there's actually a CIA meeting where people got together and said, "Okay, in order to not have
[17:20] and said, "Okay, in order to not have people be pursuing this area, let's go out of our way to spread what we would call now disinformation about.
[17:27] basically the most effective disinformation campaign in the history of the US government because it got into our culture.
[17:34] some movies were funded that made aliens seem silly and the idea of life from elsewhere seem ridiculous and that got compounded over the years.
[17:40] and then we got to the point where where we were like you know just just like few years ago where the average person just thinks it's not real you know the average scientists academia you know they think it's conspiracy stuff it's nonsense it's silly um there was no advantage for elected leaders to get in front of this or for military members to you know speak up about what they learned or saw it would a career ruiner.
[18:03] Um, and uh, that started to shift uh, several years back when Jay Stratton and Jim Lowkey when they put together OAP in 2010 and they started to go out there and collect data um, and
[18:20] go out there and collect data um, and get evidence and they started to
[18:22] get evidence and they started to actually share it with the Senate
[18:23] actually share it with the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate
[18:25] Intelligence Committee and the Senate Armed Service Committee and looking at
[18:28] Armed Service Committee and looking at classified data in a classified setting.
[18:29] classified data in a classified setting.
[18:31] People like Marco Rubio, who was the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence
[18:32] vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time, started to
[18:33] Committee at the time, started to realize, you know,
[18:35] realize, you know, >> there's something here.
[18:36] >> there's something here.
[18:37] >> Not only is there something here, but we've got a problem, right?
[18:39] we've got a problem, right? There's a lot of lot of UAP activity over these
[18:41] lot of lot of UAP activity over these highly classified sites like our nuclear
[18:43] highly classified sites like our nuclear weapons sites.
[18:45] weapons sites. There's a lot at stake.
[18:47] We are in this, you know, race with other nations and the stigma has created
[18:50] other nations and the stigma has created a disadvantage for us.
[18:52] It's very hard to win a technology race when the majority
[18:54] win a technology race when the majority of scientists don't know it's a valid
[18:56] of scientists don't know it's a valid area of inquiry.
[18:58] area of inquiry. Right. And do people think that there's one type of non-human
[19:01] think that there's one type of non-human intelligence that's visiting the earth
[19:02] intelligence that's visiting the earth or is there many many types?
[19:04] or is there many many types? >> People who have been involved in
[19:05] >> People who have been involved in recoveries have said
[19:07] recoveries have said >> there are at least four types.
[19:09] >> there are at least four types. Four separate types.
[19:11] separate types. Now I have not had direct access to that but I I I believe
[19:14] direct access to that but I I I believe the people who I talked to
[19:16] the people who I talked to >> all different types of life.
[19:18] >> all different types of life. >> Four different types of life at least.
[19:20] >> Four different types of life at least. Yeah. And the people I've talked through
[19:22] Yeah.
[19:22] And the people I've talked through to, you know, through the process of making the documentary, both on camera and off thereord sources and the people house talked to over the decades have said that there are there have been dozens of recoveries of crashed craft in the US alone.
[19:35] Dozens of craft of non-human origin that either crashed organically or caused a crash and then recovered.
[19:44] And have you spoken to people who you talked about Jay.
[19:46] Have you spoken to other people that have worked on these crashed crafts?
[19:52] I've tal I've talked off the record with some people who are involved in recoveries.
[19:57] They would not go on camera to do interviews.
[19:58] Special forces people that would not go on camera to do interviews.
[20:03] One I actually thought I've I've mentioned this in another interview, but um one I thought was going to do an interview and then a couple days before sent me a message saying after further consideration and long talks with my wife, I decided I'd be forfeiting my life if I participated in your interview.
[20:18] And I thought that was like very very unsettling message to get obviously but
[20:23] unsettling message to get obviously but also very specific word choice. You
[20:25] also very specific word choice. You know, forfeiting my life.
[20:27] know, forfeiting my life. >> What did he know? He was a special very
[20:29] >> What did he know? He was a special very senior special forces guy who had told
[20:31] senior special forces guy who had told me he had been involved in multiple
[20:33] me he had been involved in multiple recoveries. That's what he told me.
[20:36] recoveries. That's what he told me. >> Okay.
[20:37] >> Okay. >> And I met him through uh some high level
[20:40] >> And I met him through uh some high level intelligence people. Early on my
[20:42] intelligence people. Early on my process, I got connected with the Senate
[20:44] process, I got connected with the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate
[20:46] Intelligence Committee and the Senate Armed Services Committee and they had on
[20:50] Armed Services Committee and they had on their own learned the reality of the
[20:51] their own learned the reality of the situation through the work of OAP and
[20:55] situation through the work of OAP and then ATIP and then the UAP task force
[20:58] then ATIP and then the UAP task force and through their own their own
[21:00] and through their own their own intelligence channels. Leaders on those
[21:02] intelligence channels. Leaders on those committees wanted to educate the public
[21:05] committees wanted to educate the public about what they could lawfully about
[21:07] about what they could lawfully about this, but they didn't really have a way
[21:09] this, but they didn't really have a way to do it. It's such a complicated
[21:11] to do it. It's such a complicated situation. It takes a while to explain
[21:13] situation. It takes a while to explain it. You can't do it in like a six-inute
[21:15] it. You can't do it in like a six-inute news head on Fox or CNN or even like a
[21:18] news head on Fox or CNN or even like a 15 minute 60-minute segment. You just
[21:20] 15 minute 60-minute segment. You just can't do it. And no one wanted to be the
[21:23] can't do it. And no one wanted to be the one guy trying to do it. So, when I
[21:26] one guy trying to do it. So, when I started putting together the film and
[21:27] started putting together the film and socializing this safe way for people to
[21:29] socializing this safe way for people to step forward, uh it also quickly became
[21:32] step forward, uh it also quickly became those people's plan for disclosure.
[21:34] those people's plan for disclosure. That's why Secretary Rubio participated.
[21:37] That's why Secretary Rubio participated. That's why White House National Security
[21:38] That's why White House National Security Council members participated. It became
[21:40] Council members participated. It became amongst the group of people who had
[21:42] amongst the group of people who had learned the truth. It became the plan
[21:44] learned the truth. It became the plan for disclosure, the way to bring this
[21:46] for disclosure, the way to bring this information out in a thoughtful way.
[21:49] information out in a thoughtful way. >> Do the presidents of the United States
[21:52] >> Do the presidents of the United States know about this stuff? Are they aware?
[21:54] know about this stuff? Are they aware? >> Historically, no.
[21:55] >> Historically, no. >> Historically,
[21:56] >> Historically, >> yeah. And even Rubio says on camera
[21:58] >> yeah. And even Rubio says on camera that, you know, historically this has
[22:00] that, you know, historically this has been kept from even sitting presidents.
[22:03] been kept from even sitting presidents. >> Who would know then? So, a number of the
[22:05] >> Who would know then? So, a number of the people in my film break down um who's
[22:09] people in my film break down um who's involved in the legacy program. Now,
[22:11] involved in the legacy program. Now, simp to put it simply, it's elements of
[22:14] simp to put it simply, it's elements of the CIA, elements of the Air Force,
[22:16] the CIA, elements of the Air Force, elements of the Department of Energy,
[22:18] elements of the Department of Energy, and a few major defense contractors. And
[22:21] and a few major defense contractors. And they have the ability to access
[22:23] they have the ability to access information from a number of federal
[22:24] information from a number of federal agencies and branches of the military,
[22:26] agencies and branches of the military, but the the primary leaders of this
[22:28] but the the primary leaders of this program are the CIA, the Air Force, the
[22:30] program are the CIA, the Air Force, the Department of Energy, and major defense
[22:32] Department of Energy, and major defense contractors. and Rubio breaks down in
[22:33] contractors. and Rubio breaks down in the film the way our bureaucracy works.
[22:36] the film the way our bureaucracy works. Um, you could have career bureaucrats in
[22:40] Um, you could have career bureaucrats in positions of power at those
[22:41] positions of power at those organizations for decades and they can
[22:44] organizations for decades and they can just wait out sitting presidents. They
[22:46] just wait out sitting presidents. They can wait out
[22:48] can wait out >> senators sitting presidents as just
[22:50] >> senators sitting presidents as just temporary help that are going to come
[22:51] temporary help that are going to come and go.
[22:52] and go. >> And that's what's been happening up
[22:54] >> And that's what's been happening up until this point now. So the fact that
[22:57] until this point now. So the fact that Rubio had learned so much about the
[22:59] Rubio had learned so much about the reality of this situation and the extent
[23:01] reality of this situation and the extent of the cover up and then ended up
[23:03] of the cover up and then ended up arguably the second most powerful guy in
[23:04] arguably the second most powerful guy in the world as our Secretary of State and
[23:05] the world as our Secretary of State and our national security adviser at the
[23:07] our national security adviser at the same time, which has only happened once
[23:09] same time, which has only happened once in US history, Henry Kissinger for two
[23:11] in US history, Henry Kissinger for two years.
[23:12] years. >> No one else has ever had both those jobs
[23:13] >> No one else has ever had both those jobs at the same time. the fact that he ended
[23:15] at the same time. the fact that he ended up in that position of power and
[23:17] up in that position of power and influence after learning the reality of
[23:19] influence after learning the reality of the situation and right as the age of
[23:22] the situation and right as the age of disclosure is coming out and driving
[23:23] disclosure is coming out and driving this national conversation it really led
[23:26] this national conversation it really led to the current President Trump being
[23:29] to the current President Trump being informed about this in a way that no
[23:31] informed about this in a way that no president has in a very long time.
[23:32] president has in a very long time. >> So are you saying that the United States
[23:35] >> So are you saying that the United States don't think the public are ready to even
[23:37] don't think the public are ready to even know that this exists? Because, you
[23:40] know that this exists? Because, you know, they could tell us that they have
[23:42] know, they could tell us that they have recovered UAPs or aliens, whatever it
[23:44] recovered UAPs or aliens, whatever it might be, without telling us about the
[23:46] might be, without telling us about the technology.
[23:47] technology. >> They couldn't. I think we're going to
[23:48] >> They couldn't. I think we're going to get to that point.
[23:49] get to that point. >> Yeah. I think they they were trapped in
[23:51] >> Yeah. I think they they were trapped in in this system that had that had grown
[23:53] in this system that had that had grown up and uh people behind the scenes
[23:57] up and uh people behind the scenes working in the classified programs said,
[23:59] working in the classified programs said, "Well, you know, we don't know how the
[24:00] "Well, you know, we don't know how the public is going to respond, so let's be
[24:03] public is going to respond, so let's be safe and let's let's just keep it in
[24:05] safe and let's let's just keep it in house."
[24:06] house." >> Do you think Trump believes that there
[24:07] >> Do you think Trump believes that there are aliens? because I I was looking at
[24:09] are aliens? because I I was looking at some of his quotes and he said, "Well, I
[24:11] some of his quotes and he said, "Well, I don't know if they're real or not. I
[24:13] don't know if they're real or not. I don't have an opinion on it. I never
[24:15] don't have an opinion on it. I never talk about it." A lot of people do. A
[24:17] talk about it." A lot of people do. A lot of people believe it.
[24:18] lot of people believe it. >> Barack Obama said that aliens are real.
[24:22] >> Barack Obama said that aliens are real. >> Well, he gave classified information.
[24:24] >> Well, he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that, you
[24:26] He's not supposed to be doing that, you know.
[24:26] know. >> So, aliens are real.
[24:27] >> So, aliens are real. >> No, I don't I don't have an opinion on
[24:29] >> No, I don't I don't have an opinion on it. I never talk about it. A lot of
[24:31] it. I never talk about it. A lot of people do. A lot of people believe it.
[24:34] people do. A lot of people believe it. >> Do you believe it, Peter? Uh well the
[24:36] >> Do you believe it, Peter? Uh well the president can declassify anything that
[24:38] president can declassify anything that he wants to. So if you want to make an
[24:39] he wants to. So if you want to make an announcement
[24:40] announcement >> I may get him out of trouble by
[24:41] >> I may get him out of trouble by declassifying.
[24:43] declassifying. >> One of the things that came out in the
[24:44] >> One of the things that came out in the age of disclosure is that
[24:48] age of disclosure is that during Trump's first administration
[24:51] during Trump's first administration his cabinet was briefed by the UAP task
[24:54] his cabinet was briefed by the UAP task force by J Stratton. And when he briefed
[24:58] force by J Stratton. And when he briefed them, uh, he was told that they had
[25:00] them, uh, he was told that they had asked for this briefing because they
[25:03] asked for this briefing because they needed to be able to evaluate what the
[25:04] needed to be able to evaluate what the repercussions would be if Trump decided
[25:06] repercussions would be if Trump decided to step to the microphone and tell the
[25:07] to step to the microphone and tell the world we're not alone in the universe.
[25:09] world we're not alone in the universe. Obviously, he didn't end up deciding to
[25:11] Obviously, he didn't end up deciding to do that then. However, in this new
[25:14] do that then. However, in this new administration,
[25:15] administration, he's got Rubio in the position of
[25:18] he's got Rubio in the position of Secretary of State and National Security
[25:19] Secretary of State and National Security Adviser and fully aware of the situation
[25:21] Adviser and fully aware of the situation and that has given him the comfort to
[25:24] and that has given him the comfort to put this this process in motion. There's
[25:26] put this this process in motion. There's certainly a disclosure process unfolding
[25:27] certainly a disclosure process unfolding right now.
[25:28] right now. >> Obama said in an interview that he did
[25:30] >> Obama said in an interview that he did with Brian Tyler Cohen when asked about
[25:34] with Brian Tyler Cohen when asked about aliens, Obama said, "They're real, but I
[25:37] aliens, Obama said, "They're real, but I haven't seen them. They're not being
[25:38] haven't seen them. They're not being kept at Area 51. There's no underground
[25:40] kept at Area 51. There's no underground facility unless there's this enormous
[25:42] facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hid it from the
[25:44] conspiracy and they hid it from the president of the United States." Now,
[25:46] president of the United States." Now, that sounded to me like kind of sarcasm
[25:47] that sounded to me like kind of sarcasm when he said, "They're real, but" and
[25:48] when he said, "They're real, but" and then explained all that they're not
[25:50] then explained all that they're not real.
[25:51] real. >> They're real, but I haven't seen them.
[25:53] >> They're real, but I haven't seen them. and and uh they're not being kept in uh
[25:56] and and uh they're not being kept in uh Area 51. Uh there there's no underground
[25:59] Area 51. Uh there there's no underground uh facility unless there's this enormous
[26:02] uh facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they they hid it from the
[26:05] conspiracy and they they hid it from the president of the United States.
[26:07] president of the United States. >> So it would appear to me that Obama also
[26:09] >> So it would appear to me that Obama also doesn't know of any aliens.
[26:12] doesn't know of any aliens. >> I think Obama is largely kept in the
[26:14] >> I think Obama is largely kept in the dark. I think he does know that the base
[26:17] dark. I think he does know that the base fact that we're not alone in the
[26:18] fact that we're not alone in the universe. And I actually think when he
[26:19] universe. And I actually think when he said they're real, I think he was being
[26:22] said they're real, I think he was being that was just candid. That was his
[26:23] that was just candid. That was his honest
[26:23] honest >> that was his honest candid genuine
[26:25] >> that was his honest candid genuine statement. I think when he then said
[26:27] statement. I think when he then said they're not kept at Area 51,
[26:29] they're not kept at Area 51, >> I think he's also being honest cuz none
[26:31] >> I think he's also being honest cuz none of my sources say that say that UAP and
[26:34] of my sources say that say that UAP and aliens are being kept at Area 51,
[26:35] aliens are being kept at Area 51, they're being kept somewhere else. Um,
[26:37] they're being kept somewhere else. Um, so I think he was being honest there.
[26:40] so I think he was being honest there. And I think when he made the comment of
[26:42] And I think when he made the comment of uh unless there's a giant conspiracy, if
[26:44] uh unless there's a giant conspiracy, if you watch the tape, he like sips his cup
[26:46] you watch the tape, he like sips his cup and raises his eyebrow. as he said, I
[26:48] and raises his eyebrow. as he said, I think he knows there's a giant
[26:50] think he knows there's a giant conspiracy. That's the truth. The
[26:51] conspiracy. That's the truth. The following day, uh, Trump was asked about
[26:53] following day, uh, Trump was asked about that on Air Force One and he responded
[26:56] that on Air Force One and he responded saying Obama revealed classified
[26:58] saying Obama revealed classified information and he shouldn't have said
[26:59] information and he shouldn't have said that. And, um, I think that's the truth.
[27:03] that. And, um, I think that's the truth. >> Yeah.
[27:04] >> Yeah. >> I think presidents don't don't know and
[27:05] >> I think presidents don't don't know and they're and they're told not to talk
[27:06] they're and they're told not to talk about it.
[27:07] about it. >> Trump has started to release a lot of
[27:09] >> Trump has started to release a lot of classified information around UAP and
[27:11] classified information around UAP and aliens. The first batch of that was
[27:13] aliens. The first batch of that was released a couple of days ago. What
[27:15] released a couple of days ago. What exactly is inside this report?
[27:19] exactly is inside this report? >> There was a number of files, reports, uh
[27:22] >> There was a number of files, reports, uh video and uh still images that were
[27:26] video and uh still images that were declassified. This is information that
[27:29] declassified. This is information that previously had been classified or just
[27:32] previously had been classified or just never really made public. Um this was
[27:35] never really made public. Um this was just the first trunch of uh what has
[27:38] just the first trunch of uh what has been what will be released. Uh the most
[27:40] been what will be released. Uh the most notable piece of evidence in there is an
[27:43] notable piece of evidence in there is an image, a still image from the 1972
[27:46] image, a still image from the 1972 Apollo mission. It's an image of a
[27:48] Apollo mission. It's an image of a triangle, a seemingly triangleshaped
[27:51] triangle, a seemingly triangleshaped craft hovering above the moon and above
[27:53] craft hovering above the moon and above the astronauts. And the image was taken
[27:55] the astronauts. And the image was taken from uh the from the lunar module. And
[27:59] from uh the from the lunar module. And um you know, the UAP task force looked
[28:01] um you know, the UAP task force looked into this image years ago uh and
[28:04] into this image years ago uh and determined it was real. That seems to be
[28:06] determined it was real. That seems to be the most glaring piece of evidence in
[28:07] the most glaring piece of evidence in this this tunch. But I will say this,
[28:09] this this tunch. But I will say this, how and I both have the same a lot of
[28:11] how and I both have the same a lot of the same sources of information. And
[28:15] the same sources of information. And everyone we've talked to at various
[28:16] everyone we've talked to at various federal agencies has told us that when
[28:19] federal agencies has told us that when the president gave this directive in
[28:21] the president gave this directive in middle of February for federal agencies
[28:22] middle of February for federal agencies to declassify evidence of non-human
[28:24] to declassify evidence of non-human intelligent life and UAP, only a few
[28:28] intelligent life and UAP, only a few engaged with it. They only gave a small
[28:31] engaged with it. They only gave a small percent of what they have and they only
[28:33] percent of what they have and they only had a couple weeks to do it. Mhm.
[28:35] had a couple weeks to do it. Mhm. >> One of the things I I think I've always
[28:36] >> One of the things I I think I've always struggled with with the idea of these
[28:38] struggled with with the idea of these kind of conspiracies um is that I don't
[28:42] kind of conspiracies um is that I don't know why that information would
[28:44] know why that information would necessarily fall into the hands of like
[28:47] necessarily fall into the hands of like government officials because you know
[28:49] government officials because you know alien life forms or UAPs would be
[28:51] alien life forms or UAPs would be visible and would land in anyone's back
[28:54] visible and would land in anyone's back garden. So you would you could imagine a
[28:55] garden. So you would you could imagine a world especially in a world where we
[28:56] world especially in a world where we have I don't know like 8 billion iPhones
[28:58] have I don't know like 8 billion iPhones roaming around. Can imagine a world
[29:00] roaming around. Can imagine a world where if there was some kind of UAP
[29:02] where if there was some kind of UAP crash in my garden, it would be on Tik
[29:04] crash in my garden, it would be on Tik Tok within five minutes.
[29:05] Tok within five minutes. >> Yeah.
[29:06] >> Yeah. >> Or if there really was
[29:07] >> Or if there really was >> someone got there with an iPhone. You're
[29:09] >> someone got there with an iPhone. You're right.
[29:10] right. >> You know, there was that incident
[29:11] >> You know, there was that incident earlier in the year with those were they
[29:12] earlier in the year with those were they drones in in America flying Jersey.
[29:15] drones in in America flying Jersey. Jersey
[29:16] Jersey >> and that was on social media within
[29:18] >> and that was on social media within minutes and everyone was talking about
[29:19] minutes and everyone was talking about it and looking at what they were. I I
[29:20] it and looking at what they were. I I don't know. I think in the modern world
[29:22] don't know. I think in the modern world because we have so many ways to capture
[29:24] because we have so many ways to capture high quality video, if there was
[29:26] high quality video, if there was something out there, we would have seen
[29:29] something out there, we would have seen a very clear image of this thing by now.
[29:33] a very clear image of this thing by now. >> That's why there there's a lot that came
[29:34] >> That's why there there's a lot that came out in these files because over the
[29:36] out in these files because over the years, our sensor systems that the
[29:38] years, our sensor systems that the pilots have in their planes have gotten
[29:41] pilots have in their planes have gotten so much better. They've captured really
[29:44] so much better. They've captured really astounding.
[29:45] astounding. >> Does this life want to be seen? Do these
[29:47] >> Does this life want to be seen? Do these aliens want us to know they're there?
[29:49] aliens want us to know they're there? I'd have to assume that given the level
[29:51] I'd have to assume that given the level of quality of of their technology, if
[29:54] of quality of of their technology, if they didn't want to be seen, we we
[29:56] they didn't want to be seen, we we wouldn't be seeing them. So, it seems
[29:58] wouldn't be seeing them. So, it seems like I would say there's evidence that
[30:00] like I would say there's evidence that for whatever reason, they're they're
[30:02] for whatever reason, they're they're they're wanting to be seen.
[30:04] they're wanting to be seen. >> But also, like I my personal opinion is
[30:06] >> But also, like I my personal opinion is that if someone answers that question,
[30:08] that if someone answers that question, they're answering it through the lens of
[30:11] they're answering it through the lens of like how humans think, right? For all we
[30:13] like how humans think, right? For all we know, you know, we're we're ants to
[30:16] know, you know, we're we're ants to them. You know, you don't hide from the
[30:18] them. You know, you don't hide from the ants. You walk around them. You don't
[30:19] ants. You walk around them. You don't even But you also don't pay attention to
[30:21] even But you also don't pay attention to them. You know,
[30:21] them. You know, >> based on their behavior from the
[30:23] >> based on their behavior from the interviews you've done,
[30:25] interviews you've done, >> how do you think they view us?
[30:27] >> how do you think they view us? >> I I honestly feel like the dynamic is,
[30:30] >> I I honestly feel like the dynamic is, you know, we are very very far below
[30:33] you know, we are very very far below them on the food chain. You know, Hal
[30:34] them on the food chain. You know, Hal makes an analogy in the film. He says,
[30:37] makes an analogy in the film. He says, "The ants in your treeine in your
[30:39] "The ants in your treeine in your backyard, they could be there for
[30:41] backyard, they could be there for generations. You never think about them.
[30:43] generations. You never think about them. You walk around them. you don't you're
[30:45] You walk around them. you don't you're not hiding from them, but like they're
[30:46] not hiding from them, but like they're there and you don't really care, right?
[30:48] there and you don't really care, right? But what happens if they evolve one day
[30:51] But what happens if they evolve one day and out of nowhere they figured out how
[30:52] and out of nowhere they figured out how to get into your house and they've
[30:54] to get into your house and they've belined under your under your door and
[30:56] belined under your under your door and they're in your living room, right? We
[30:58] they're in your living room, right? We might have evolved technologically over
[31:00] might have evolved technologically over the last 80 years since we cracked the
[31:02] the last 80 years since we cracked the atom so quickly that we're now, you
[31:04] atom so quickly that we're now, you know, the equivalent of the ants showing
[31:06] know, the equivalent of the ants showing up in their living room. Like all of a
[31:08] up in their living room. Like all of a sudden,
[31:09] sudden, >> all of a sudden this waring species,
[31:11] >> all of a sudden this waring species, this violent species, humans, you know,
[31:14] this violent species, humans, you know, >> um
[31:15] >> um >> we have we we progressed so quickly. We
[31:17] >> we have we we progressed so quickly. We went from no real technological pro
[31:20] went from no real technological pro progress for a very long time to
[31:22] progress for a very long time to cracking the atom and then figuring out
[31:24] cracking the atom and then figuring out nuclear technology and then continuing
[31:25] nuclear technology and then continuing to increase, you know, our our nuclear
[31:27] to increase, you know, our our nuclear technology development.
[31:30] technology development. And you know, we have this program that
[31:32] And you know, we have this program that has been retrieving their crash craft
[31:34] has been retrieving their crash craft and trying to reverse engineer them. So
[31:36] and trying to reverse engineer them. So we might be at that point where we're
[31:38] we might be at that point where we're about to do what they do and all of a
[31:40] about to do what they do and all of a sudden we are a problem. Um that might
[31:43] sudden we are a problem. Um that might be the explanation of why they pay so
[31:45] be the explanation of why they pay so much attention to our nuclear process.
[31:47] much attention to our nuclear process. You know there's a lot of UAP activity
[31:49] You know there's a lot of UAP activity not only at the nuclear weapons sites
[31:51] not only at the nuclear weapons sites all over the world but um sites involved
[31:54] all over the world but um sites involved in the process the nuclear process like
[31:56] in the process the nuclear process like uranium mines or refineries. Is it, you
[31:59] uranium mines or refineries. Is it, you know,
[32:00] know, >> it might just be we've gotten to the
[32:01] >> it might just be we've gotten to the point where all of a sudden they have
[32:03] point where all of a sudden they have they have to
[32:05] they have to >> in uh in the Soviet Union, the UAP came
[32:09] >> in uh in the Soviet Union, the UAP came over and actually started a launch of
[32:13] over and actually started a launch of the Russian missiles. I mean, it
[32:15] the Russian missiles. I mean, it actually forced the system to start into
[32:18] actually forced the system to start into a countdown process.
[32:18] a countdown process. >> How do we know that?
[32:20] >> How do we know that? >> By the intelligence community's uh
[32:23] >> By the intelligence community's uh access to information about it. Every
[32:26] access to information about it. Every person we spoke to in Beloraviche said
[32:28] person we spoke to in Beloraviche said they saw a flying saucer on that day.
[32:31] they saw a flying saucer on that day. For hours, it hovered over the nearby
[32:33] For hours, it hovered over the nearby ballistic missile base. No one had
[32:35] ballistic missile base. No one had touched any buttons. No one had entered
[32:37] touched any buttons. No one had entered any codes. And yet, as the UFO hovered
[32:40] any codes. And yet, as the UFO hovered over the base, the control panel showed
[32:42] over the base, the control panel showed the missiles were preparing to launch.
[32:45] the missiles were preparing to launch. For 15 agonizing seconds, the base lost
[32:48] For 15 agonizing seconds, the base lost control of its nuclear weapons.
[32:51] control of its nuclear weapons. Logically, I would think that unusual
[32:54] Logically, I would think that unusual activity would happen around
[32:56] activity would happen around consequential sites.
[32:58] consequential sites. >> Yes.
[32:58] >> Yes. >> You know, I'd be more surprised if there
[33:00] >> You know, I'd be more surprised if there was really frequent unusual activity
[33:02] was really frequent unusual activity happening in my back garden, for
[33:03] happening in my back garden, for example. But around highly consequential
[33:07] example. But around highly consequential sites, one would expect there to be
[33:09] sites, one would expect there to be people flying things around there,
[33:10] people flying things around there, spying. You know what people are like
[33:12] spying. You know what people are like with cameras these days? They want to
[33:13] with cameras these days? They want to take photos of anything interesting.
[33:14] take photos of anything interesting. They they hang around police stations
[33:16] They they hang around police stations and army barracks,
[33:16] and army barracks, >> right? Right. So logically I would
[33:18] >> right? Right. So logically I would assume that there would be an increased
[33:20] assume that there would be an increased probability of strange activity in the
[33:21] probability of strange activity in the sky above a nuclear site.
[33:23] sky above a nuclear site. >> Well, in fact, there was a group of
[33:25] >> Well, in fact, there was a group of people in the intelligence community who
[33:27] people in the intelligence community who who recognize exactly what you're
[33:29] who recognize exactly what you're saying. And so they decided to, you
[33:32] saying. And so they decided to, you know, make an attractive magnet by
[33:35] know, make an attractive magnet by getting a whole lot of nuclear uh assets
[33:38] getting a whole lot of nuclear uh assets in one location to see if that would
[33:40] in one location to see if that would draw them in. And my understanding it
[33:43] draw them in. And my understanding it was successful. So, you know, our nation
[33:45] was successful. So, you know, our nation and other nations have figured out
[33:47] and other nations have figured out circumstances that can, for lack of a
[33:50] circumstances that can, for lack of a better term, bait UAP. Um, a certain
[33:54] better term, bait UAP. Um, a certain level of nuclear footprint in a in a
[33:57] level of nuclear footprint in a in a small radius tends to attract them.
[34:00] small radius tends to attract them. >> And, um, our nation figured that out a
[34:02] >> And, um, our nation figured that out a long time ago and and so did other
[34:04] long time ago and and so did other nations.
[34:05] nations. >> One of the things that I've thought
[34:06] >> One of the things that I've thought about is I I know very little about
[34:08] about is I I know very little about physics, but I know one thing I know is
[34:10] physics, but I know one thing I know is how big the universe is. Now, I'm quite
[34:12] how big the universe is. Now, I'm quite a big fan of SpaceX. I'm actually an
[34:14] a big fan of SpaceX. I'm actually an investor in the company and um
[34:16] investor in the company and um >> from my fascination with space I've
[34:18] >> from my fascination with space I've learned just how big the universe is and
[34:20] learned just how big the universe is and how long it would take us to travel from
[34:22] how long it would take us to travel from I don't know earth to the nearest uh
[34:24] I don't know earth to the nearest uh galaxy. The closest star system to us
[34:27] galaxy. The closest star system to us which is called Alpha Centuria.
[34:30] which is called Alpha Centuria. >> Alpha Centuria right
[34:31] >> Alpha Centuria right >> is over four light years away which is
[34:34] >> is over four light years away which is about 40 24 trillion miles.
[34:37] about 40 24 trillion miles. >> Mhm. If we traveled at the impossible
[34:40] >> Mhm. If we traveled at the impossible 10% of the speed of light, which is
[34:42] 10% of the speed of light, which is impossible, currently impossible, it
[34:44] impossible, currently impossible, it would take a ship 40 years to get there.
[34:47] would take a ship 40 years to get there. >> Now, fortunately, what we learned in
[34:49] >> Now, fortunately, what we learned in looking at what might be the underlying
[34:51] looking at what might be the underlying physics and using Einstein's theory of
[34:54] physics and using Einstein's theory of general relativity, it turns out that
[34:56] general relativity, it turns out that there are ways of modifying the
[34:59] there are ways of modifying the effective speed of light to make it much
[35:01] effective speed of light to make it much higher or much lower. So, you you you
[35:05] higher or much lower. So, you you you can do that. So, so when you get into
[35:07] can do that. So, so when you get into potentially modifying what we call the
[35:10] potentially modifying what we call the space-time metric, you could get to a
[35:12] space-time metric, you could get to a point where you can make wormholes and
[35:15] point where you can make wormholes and warp drives. And those are things that
[35:18] warp drives. And those are things that are not off the charts. I mean, they're
[35:20] are not off the charts. I mean, they're actually textbooks by general relativity
[35:22] actually textbooks by general relativity experts on on the fact that you could
[35:25] experts on on the fact that you could re-engineer the spacetime. You could do
[35:27] re-engineer the spacetime. You could do it. You could get from here to there.
[35:30] it. You could get from here to there. >> But you're not saying you would travel
[35:31] >> But you're not saying you would travel in like a like a a a line like you do in
[35:34] in like a like a a a line like you do in a plane, right?
[35:35] a plane, right? >> Well, you could you you could it if if
[35:38] >> Well, you could you you could it if if you arrange for the effective speed of
[35:40] you arrange for the effective speed of light in that line to be much higher
[35:45] light in that line to be much higher than without breaking the speed of
[35:46] than without breaking the speed of light, you can zoom over there very
[35:49] light, you can zoom over there very quickly. So you even even in in a
[35:52] quickly. So you even even in in a straight line. uh
[35:53] straight line. uh >> but no no no one at the moment knows how
[35:55] >> but no no no one at the moment knows how to do that on earth.
[35:58] to do that on earth. >> We can write the equations and see how
[36:00] >> We can write the equations and see how it doesn't violate our physics equations
[36:02] it doesn't violate our physics equations but we don't have the uh engineering
[36:06] but we don't have the uh engineering process. So we figured out basically we
[36:08] process. So we figured out basically we figured out
[36:10] figured out >> how these how these craft are operating
[36:12] >> how these how these craft are operating the theory of it but we don't have the
[36:14] the theory of it but we don't have the material sciences right what to
[36:16] material sciences right what to replicate it
[36:17] replicate it >> what I'm pointing out is if you travel
[36:18] >> what I'm pointing out is if you travel at that speed across the universe if you
[36:20] at that speed across the universe if you even hit I don't know an object the size
[36:23] even hit I don't know an object the size of a pebble it would be like a nuclear
[36:25] of a pebble it would be like a nuclear explosion
[36:26] explosion >> the thing is if you're modifying uh
[36:28] >> the thing is if you're modifying uh space it's sort of like making like like
[36:31] space it's sort of like making like like a surfer wave on on on you know at the
[36:34] a surfer wave on on on you know at the the seashore you you arrange to have
[36:37] the seashore you you arrange to have space moving ahead like that. So you
[36:40] space moving ahead like that. So you come up to a rock, it's just going to
[36:42] come up to a rock, it's just going to push it aside.
[36:43] push it aside. >> So you can engineer that.
[36:45] >> So you can engineer that. >> This is how I've wrapped my head around
[36:46] >> This is how I've wrapped my head around it. Um, essentially they're they're
[36:47] it. Um, essentially they're they're warping spaceime in a localized area.
[36:50] warping spaceime in a localized area. They're creating an immense amount of
[36:51] They're creating an immense amount of energy around the craft and it creates
[36:54] energy around the craft and it creates essentially a bubble around the craft
[36:56] essentially a bubble around the craft and that bubble separates the craft from
[36:57] and that bubble separates the craft from the environment around it.
[36:59] the environment around it. >> So the environment has no no impact on
[37:02] >> So the environment has no no impact on the craft. That's why we see transmedium
[37:04] the craft. That's why we see transmedium travel like a craft going, you know,
[37:06] travel like a craft going, you know, smooth from space to air to the water
[37:08] smooth from space to air to the water without even a splash. The environment
[37:11] without even a splash. The environment around the bubble has no bearing on the
[37:14] around the bubble has no bearing on the craft inside it. And the craft inside it
[37:16] craft inside it. And the craft inside it is in its own spaceime. And once you
[37:19] is in its own spaceime. And once you wrap your head around that, then things
[37:21] wrap your head around that, then things like interstellar travel become totally
[37:23] like interstellar travel become totally possible.
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[39:28] I'll see you over there. One of the paradoxes with this is they
[39:29] One of the paradoxes with this is they appear to be such so advanced in their
[39:32] appear to be such so advanced in their physics
[39:34] physics >> and their technology, if I should call
[39:36] >> and their technology, if I should call it that. But at the same time they seem
[39:37] it that. But at the same time they seem to be crashing a lot which is
[39:40] to be crashing a lot which is >> well actually some of them have not
[39:43] >> well actually some of them have not crashed but have been simply left in the
[39:47] crashed but have been simply left in the desert sort of like a gift or a
[39:49] desert sort of like a gift or a donation.
[39:51] donation. >> We're we're still trying to figure that
[39:52] >> We're we're still trying to figure that out. So I mean some of them do do crash
[39:55] out. So I mean some of them do do crash and and uh it can have maybe some of our
[39:58] and and uh it can have maybe some of our electromagnetic pulsing and laser
[40:00] electromagnetic pulsing and laser pulsing can interfere with their
[40:02] pulsing can interfere with their technology and and and you might get a
[40:05] technology and and and you might get a crash. Why why don't you why do you
[40:06] crash. Why why don't you why do you think another country hasn't come
[40:08] think another country hasn't come forward with similar disclosures and
[40:11] forward with similar disclosures and similar evidence? I
[40:12] similar evidence? I >> actually think there's a really simple
[40:13] >> actually think there's a really simple answer for that. Um I think our allies
[40:16] answer for that. Um I think our allies follow the US's lead,
[40:18] follow the US's lead, >> right?
[40:18] >> right? >> And I think our adversaries,
[40:21] >> And I think our adversaries, primarily China and Russia,
[40:23] primarily China and Russia, >> have no reason to go public. They don't
[40:25] >> have no reason to go public. They don't have the same sort of societies and
[40:27] have the same sort of societies and dynamics like she can do what he wants
[40:30] dynamics like she can do what he wants anyway. What's what's the advantage to
[40:32] anyway. What's what's the advantage to him? Same thing with Putin. you know
[40:34] him? Same thing with Putin. you know there is no advantage and when you look
[40:36] there is no advantage and when you look at it that way you really quickly get to
[40:38] at it that way you really quickly get to the you know this is the way it is for
[40:40] the you know this is the way it is for that reason
[40:41] that reason >> they did a study in 2026 and found that
[40:43] >> they did a study in 2026 and found that 45 planets are likely capable of
[40:46] 45 planets are likely capable of supporting life they called this the
[40:48] supporting life they called this the habitable zone out of more than 6,000
[40:51] habitable zone out of more than 6,000 planets discovered so far by NASA
[40:53] planets discovered so far by NASA >> Mhm.
[40:54] >> Mhm. >> Um there are approximately a trillion
[40:56] >> Um there are approximately a trillion galaxies in the universe and within
[40:57] galaxies in the universe and within these galaxies 100,000 planets could
[41:00] these galaxies 100,000 planets could potentially host life according to
[41:02] potentially host life according to Oxford University. Now, I believe that
[41:05] Oxford University. Now, I believe that if you think about the entire universe,
[41:08] if you think about the entire universe, I believe that we're not the only life
[41:10] I believe that we're not the only life in the universe.
[41:11] in the universe. >> Yes. Right.
[41:12] >> Yes. Right. >> I think that's I mean,
[41:13] >> I think that's I mean, >> I think that's a very scientific
[41:14] >> I think that's a very scientific conclusion.
[41:15] conclusion. >> Probabilistically, it would be pretty
[41:17] >> Probabilistically, it would be pretty incredible if we were. I mean, it' be
[41:18] incredible if we were. I mean, it' be just it's almost inconceivable that we
[41:20] just it's almost inconceivable that we are. The question of whether that life
[41:22] are. The question of whether that life has been here is a question that for me
[41:24] has been here is a question that for me is still a big question mark because I
[41:26] is still a big question mark because I just, you know, I also I think Elon, you
[41:29] just, you know, I also I think Elon, you know, whatever you think about Elon, he
[41:31] know, whatever you think about Elon, he is someone that seems to just say what
[41:32] is someone that seems to just say what he thinks. And this is part of what's
[41:34] he thinks. And this is part of what's caused his companies a lot of problem is
[41:36] caused his companies a lot of problem is he seems to be pretty unfiltered. He has
[41:38] he seems to be pretty unfiltered. He has been asked multiple times as well if he
[41:40] been asked multiple times as well if he believes that they are there are aliens
[41:42] believes that they are there are aliens in the in in our galaxy. And he has said
[41:45] in the in in our galaxy. And he has said on multiple occasions that he doesn't
[41:47] on multiple occasions that he doesn't believe that to be the case. And you
[41:48] believe that to be the case. And you know, he's launching rockets all the
[41:49] know, he's launching rockets all the time. He said, I heard him say, "If
[41:51] time. He said, I heard him say, "If anyone should know, it should be me."
[41:54] anyone should know, it should be me." Do you think he knows?
[41:56] Do you think he knows? >> I think that you can't operate in space
[42:00] >> I think that you can't operate in space at at at the level he does or operate as
[42:04] at at at the level he does or operate as a contractor at the level he does um
[42:07] a contractor at the level he does um without having clearances that require
[42:10] without having clearances that require secrecy. You know, there's there's
[42:13] secrecy. You know, there's there's there's all kinds of uh levels of
[42:15] there's all kinds of uh levels of secrecy. You know, there's everyone
[42:17] secrecy. You know, there's everyone knows the word classified, right?
[42:18] knows the word classified, right? classified projects, but there's also
[42:19] classified projects, but there's also black projects that are unagnowledged
[42:22] black projects that are unagnowledged special access programs where you
[42:24] special access programs where you literally by law required to not
[42:27] literally by law required to not acknowledge the existence of the program
[42:29] acknowledge the existence of the program or anything it does. That's literally
[42:31] or anything it does. That's literally the
[42:32] the >> anything it knows.
[42:33] >> anything it knows. >> Yeah, that's literally the whole that
[42:34] >> Yeah, that's literally the whole that they're literally referred to as
[42:35] they're literally referred to as unagnowledged special access programs.
[42:38] unagnowledged special access programs. So, if you're involved team as well with
[42:39] So, if you're involved team as well with >> So, if you're involved with an
[42:40] >> So, if you're involved with an uncknowledged special access program,
[42:42] uncknowledged special access program, someone asks you about it,
[42:43] someone asks you about it, >> you you have to say you have no idea
[42:45] >> you you have to say you have no idea what they're talking about. and all of
[42:46] what they're talking about. and all of his team
[42:47] his team >> if if they are a part of the program.
[42:49] >> if if they are a part of the program. Yeah. But just because someone's um read
[42:52] Yeah. But just because someone's um read it on an unagnowledged special access
[42:54] it on an unagnowledged special access program doesn't mean all their employees
[42:56] program doesn't mean all their employees are.
[42:57] are. >> Elon said um that we have 9,000
[43:00] >> Elon said um that we have 9,000 satellites up there. He's referring to
[43:01] satellites up there. He's referring to his company Starink. And not once have
[43:02] his company Starink. And not once have we had to maneuver around an alien
[43:04] we had to maneuver around an alien spaceship. He argues that if aliens were
[43:06] spaceship. He argues that if aliens were constantly visiting Earth, the aerospace
[43:08] constantly visiting Earth, the aerospace experts who watch the skies every day
[43:10] experts who watch the skies every day would be the first to know. Well, look,
[43:13] would be the first to know. Well, look, NASA also has said for decades that they
[43:15] NASA also has said for decades that they had no evidence of extraterrestrial life
[43:18] had no evidence of extraterrestrial life for UAPs, and last Friday, the federal
[43:21] for UAPs, and last Friday, the federal government released a photo of a
[43:22] government released a photo of a triangle craft hovering over the 1972
[43:24] triangle craft hovering over the 1972 Apollo space mission. So, somebody's
[43:26] Apollo space mission. So, somebody's somebody's not being honest,
[43:28] somebody's not being honest, >> right?
[43:29] >> right? >> You know, which also implies a lot of
[43:30] >> You know, which also implies a lot of other people know things that they
[43:32] other people know things that they haven't revealed. I
[43:34] haven't revealed. I >> I think I've heard you say before, how
[43:36] >> I think I've heard you say before, how that you think this intelligent life
[43:38] that you think this intelligent life actually exists amongst us. Yeah, I the
[43:40] actually exists amongst us. Yeah, I the quote was they are not occasional
[43:42] quote was they are not occasional visitors. They live secretly alongside
[43:44] visitors. They live secretly alongside humans but with advanced technology.
[43:46] humans but with advanced technology. >> We have so many sightings and so many uh
[43:50] >> We have so many sightings and so many uh even access to materials and so on. I
[43:54] even access to materials and so on. I mean they're all over the place.
[43:56] mean they're all over the place. >> 65% of Americans believe intelligent
[43:58] >> 65% of Americans believe intelligent life exists on other planets. Uh 40% of
[44:00] life exists on other planets. Uh 40% of people say military reported UFOs are
[44:02] people say military reported UFOs are probably evidence of extraterrestrial
[44:04] probably evidence of extraterrestrial life
[44:05] life >> according to Pew Research. And 30% of
[44:06] >> according to Pew Research. And 30% of Americans believe UFOs or unidentified
[44:08] Americans believe UFOs or unidentified flying objects are probably alien ships
[44:10] flying objects are probably alien ships of life form. And 47% of Americans
[44:13] of life form. And 47% of Americans believe aliens have definitely or
[44:15] believe aliens have definitely or probably visited Earth at some point.
[44:16] probably visited Earth at some point. According to Yuggov, half of Americans
[44:19] According to Yuggov, half of Americans believe that UFOs
[44:22] believe that UFOs slash aliens have definitely or probably
[44:25] slash aliens have definitely or probably visited life at some point.
[44:27] visited life at some point. >> H quite a lot of people.
[44:28] >> H quite a lot of people. >> Well, you see you see the the age of
[44:31] >> Well, you see you see the the age of disclosure film and the people that came
[44:33] disclosure film and the people that came forward. I mean, you had Clapper, ex uh
[44:37] forward. I mean, you had Clapper, ex uh head of the office of director of
[44:39] head of the office of director of national intelligence and senator Rubio
[44:41] national intelligence and senator Rubio at the time now in his elevated position
[44:44] at the time now in his elevated position and so on. You now have people of real
[44:48] and so on. You now have people of real quality and you know they're not lying
[44:51] quality and you know they're not lying and they're coming forth and saying this
[44:53] and they're coming forth and saying this is real and we got to deal with it and
[44:57] is real and we got to deal with it and there's a lot we don't know about it.
[44:59] there's a lot we don't know about it. >> Could you be wrong?
[45:01] >> Could you be wrong? Um, I don't think it's about whether I'm
[45:03] Um, I don't think it's about whether I'm wrong or Al's wrong. You'd have to
[45:05] wrong or Al's wrong. You'd have to believe that senior leadership across
[45:09] believe that senior leadership across the government, the military, the
[45:11] the government, the military, the intelligence community that has access
[45:13] intelligence community that has access to classified information and is saying
[45:16] to classified information and is saying based on the classified information they
[45:17] based on the classified information they have seen, this is a real situation.
[45:19] have seen, this is a real situation. You'd have to believe all of those
[45:21] You'd have to believe all of those people are lying for some bizarre
[45:23] people are lying for some bizarre unexplained reason.
[45:25] unexplained reason. So, I find that hard to believe. Could
[45:28] So, I find that hard to believe. Could it be the case that all of those people
[45:29] it be the case that all of those people were misinterpreting what they were
[45:31] were misinterpreting what they were seeing? They they saw something, you
[45:33] seeing? They they saw something, you know, fighter pilots saw something
[45:35] know, fighter pilots saw something moving in their visors when they're up
[45:38] moving in their visors when they're up in
[45:39] in >> Oh, really? Because that
[45:41] >> Oh, really? Because that >> I mean, in some cases that could be the
[45:42] >> I mean, in some cases that could be the case, but then when you have actual
[45:44] case, but then when you have actual materials, crash craft
[45:48] materials, crash craft bodies that aren't human. Also, a lot of
[45:50] bodies that aren't human. Also, a lot of these sightings, um, they're now in the
[45:54] these sightings, um, they're now in the process of the White House, cabinet
[45:56] process of the White House, cabinet members are in the process of
[45:59] members are in the process of identifying where the evidence exists
[46:01] identifying where the evidence exists within federal agencies and the military
[46:03] within federal agencies and the military so they can get access to it themselves
[46:06] so they can get access to it themselves and then determine from there what can
[46:08] and then determine from there what can safely be shared with the public. I
[46:10] safely be shared with the public. I think once they get their hands on more
[46:12] think once they get their hands on more evidence, then a plan would put in place
[46:15] evidence, then a plan would put in place for telling the world this conclusion. I
[46:17] for telling the world this conclusion. I think we're we're it's like
[46:19] think we're we're it's like >> more close
[46:19] >> more close >> fade to complete basically like it's
[46:21] >> fade to complete basically like it's going to get to that point relatively
[46:22] going to get to that point relatively soon.
[46:23] soon. >> If we get to that point and you get
[46:25] >> If we get to that point and you get personally invited in to wherever
[46:26] personally invited in to wherever they're keeping these materials and you
[46:28] they're keeping these materials and you get to see every single file that exists
[46:30] get to see every single file that exists and as you go through those files you
[46:31] and as you go through those files you realize that
[46:34] realize that a lot of what you've been told is not
[46:35] a lot of what you've been told is not true because there's other explanations.
[46:38] true because there's other explanations. How would it like fundamentally change
[46:39] How would it like fundamentally change the way that you see the world?
[46:42] the way that you see the world? Some of some of the UAP we've seen, like
[46:44] Some of some of the UAP we've seen, like take the famous everybody knows the
[46:46] take the famous everybody knows the tic-tac UFO, right? Uh that Commander
[46:48] tic-tac UFO, right? Uh that Commander Dave Fraver, the Navy fighter pilot,
[46:50] Dave Fraver, the Navy fighter pilot, interacted with in 2004, right?
[46:52] interacted with in 2004, right? >> I'll put that on the screen for anyone
[46:53] >> I'll put that on the screen for anyone that hasn't seen it.
[46:54] that hasn't seen it. >> Great. And so take that take that UAP
[46:56] >> Great. And so take that take that UAP for example. Multiple data collection
[46:59] for example. Multiple data collection systems and commander Dave Fraver, a
[47:01] systems and commander Dave Fraver, a legend in the NA in in the Navy, top gun
[47:04] legend in the NA in in the Navy, top gun guy, commander of an entire naval strike
[47:07] guy, commander of an entire naval strike group, right? Like total badass legend
[47:10] group, right? Like total badass legend legend of a guy. uh he sees this with
[47:13] legend of a guy. uh he sees this with his own eyes and a bunch of data
[47:14] his own eyes and a bunch of data collection systems captured data
[47:16] collection systems captured data confirming it's real. This UAP went from
[47:18] confirming it's real. This UAP went from hovering above the ocean to instantly
[47:21] hovering above the ocean to instantly being at 80,000 ft which is the entrance
[47:23] being at 80,000 ft which is the entrance to space right and it did that maneuver
[47:26] to space right and it did that maneuver all afternoon. The amount of energy
[47:28] all afternoon. The amount of energy required to do that is so bonkers. It's
[47:33] required to do that is so bonkers. It's we do not humans do no human beings have
[47:35] we do not humans do no human beings have the ability to create that much that
[47:37] the ability to create that much that much energy right in a localized area
[47:39] much energy right in a localized area for for
[47:40] for for >> an aircraft. And and so to answer your
[47:44] >> an aircraft. And and so to answer your question, if we find out, you know, the
[47:47] question, if we find out, you know, the unthinkable that this is not non-human
[47:49] unthinkable that this is not non-human intelligent life, that some humans have
[47:52] intelligent life, that some humans have figured out how to crack that technology
[47:54] figured out how to crack that technology and did it as recent as 2004 when the
[47:56] and did it as recent as 2004 when the Tic Tac incident happened, that would
[48:01] Tic Tac incident happened, that would be even more mind-blowing than accepting
[48:05] be even more mind-blowing than accepting that life from elsewhere is here and has
[48:07] that life from elsewhere is here and has been here a long time because that would
[48:08] been here a long time because that would mean that some some group of humans leap
[48:11] mean that some some group of humans leap frog the rest of all of humanity
[48:13] frog the rest of all of humanity technologically by thousands of years
[48:17] technologically by thousands of years >> and then seemingly did nothing with that
[48:19] >> and then seemingly did nothing with that >> or it could be something else.
[48:21] >> or it could be something else. >> That's the nature of unusual things.
[48:22] >> That's the nature of unusual things. They become great stories. So I I think
[48:24] They become great stories. So I I think in the case of the tic tac incident
[48:26] in the case of the tic tac incident again I'm what I'm trying to do is
[48:28] again I'm what I'm trying to do is interrogate this from all angles is
[48:30] interrogate this from all angles is could it have been something else?
[48:33] could it have been something else? any any isolated event like that. You
[48:36] any any isolated event like that. You could do the whole could it be this,
[48:37] could do the whole could it be this, could it be that thing, but it's the
[48:39] could it be that thing, but it's the it's the you got to take a step back and
[48:40] it's the you got to take a step back and look at this the collective. It's one
[48:42] look at this the collective. It's one report like that after another from
[48:44] report like that after another from credible people since World War II.
[48:48] credible people since World War II. >> You know, during World War II, pilots
[48:49] >> You know, during World War II, pilots were seeing what they called Foo
[48:51] were seeing what they called Foo Fighters, like these orbs that would
[48:53] Fighters, like these orbs that would move alongside uh our our fighter jets,
[48:57] move alongside uh our our fighter jets, right? Like they would like they would
[48:58] right? Like they would like they would move in in line with them. Um,
[49:01] move in in line with them. Um, >> and now we have we have people on ships
[49:04] >> and now we have we have people on ships seeing these things enter the water and
[49:06] seeing these things enter the water and then moving at, you know,
[49:08] then moving at, you know, >> impossible knots or something which no
[49:11] >> impossible knots or something which no human being could.
[49:12] human being could. >> As far as I know, our fastest submarines
[49:14] >> As far as I know, our fastest submarines go like 50 miles an hour.
[49:15] go like 50 miles an hour. >> These things are going hundreds of miles
[49:17] >> These things are going hundreds of miles an hour under the ocean. So these craft
[49:19] an hour under the ocean. So these craft are transmedium. They're seen in space.
[49:21] are transmedium. They're seen in space. They're seen in the air. They're seen
[49:23] They're seen in the air. They're seen underwater.
[49:24] underwater. >> There's just too much activity to to
[49:26] >> There's just too much activity to to ignore it.
[49:27] ignore it. >> Yeah. And and that would be a hard one
[49:29] >> Yeah. And and that would be a hard one to say, well, you know, is there some
[49:30] to say, well, you know, is there some sonar thing that makes you think
[49:32] sonar thing that makes you think something is doing that? But it's seen
[49:35] something is doing that? But it's seen enough times under enough different
[49:36] enough times under enough different conditions that we just have to accept
[49:38] conditions that we just have to accept that it's real.
[49:39] that it's real. >> Is there a reason why this hasn't been
[49:41] >> Is there a reason why this hasn't been captured on like an iPhone? We're in in
[49:44] captured on like an iPhone? We're in in 4K. There's been a lot of stuff captured
[49:47] 4K. There's been a lot of stuff captured on phones and video cameras in in that
[49:49] on phones and video cameras in in that scene in the age of disclosure I
[49:50] scene in the age of disclosure I mentioned where Hal and some of the
[49:52] mentioned where Hal and some of the other people break down how these things
[49:53] other people break down how these things are working and they describe that
[49:54] are working and they describe that they're creating a warp bubble around
[49:56] they're creating a warp bubble around the craft. That warp bubble also makes
[49:58] the craft. That warp bubble also makes it very hard to get a clear video of
[50:01] it very hard to get a clear video of something cuz you're you're taking a
[50:03] something cuz you're you're taking a photo or a video through essentially a
[50:06] photo or a video through essentially a space-time barrier. You know,
[50:07] space-time barrier. You know, >> time barrier.
[50:08] >> time barrier. >> It's like the equivalent of taking
[50:10] >> It's like the equivalent of taking pictures of uh trying to take video of
[50:12] pictures of uh trying to take video of like koiish in a pond from above the
[50:14] like koiish in a pond from above the water. it's going to look all distorted
[50:15] water. it's going to look all distorted because you're going through the water.
[50:17] because you're going through the water. If you're if you're trying to video or
[50:19] If you're if you're trying to video or take a photo through this this bubble,
[50:21] take a photo through this this bubble, it makes it pretty hard and you end up
[50:22] it makes it pretty hard and you end up with the kind of videos we we see.
[50:25] with the kind of videos we we see. >> Um, you're probably familiar with this
[50:26] >> Um, you're probably familiar with this NASA report that they produced on UAPs,
[50:29] NASA report that they produced on UAPs, independent study team report, where
[50:30] independent study team report, where they
[50:31] they >> they essentially say that they don't
[50:32] >> they essentially say that they don't believe that this these UAPs are are
[50:36] believe that this these UAPs are are aliens.
[50:37] aliens. >> Why would NASA be lying? like all these
[50:39] >> Why would NASA be lying? like all these big bureaucracies, there's people who
[50:41] big bureaucracies, there's people who are aware of the truth and then there's
[50:42] are aware of the truth and then there's people who have the truth kept from
[50:45] people who have the truth kept from them. You know, one of the people I
[50:47] them. You know, one of the people I interviewed was Mike Gold who was on the
[50:49] interviewed was Mike Gold who was on the UAP uh the NASA UAP task force and he
[50:53] UAP uh the NASA UAP task force and he talked about um how that effort was was
[50:58] talked about um how that effort was was flawed from the start. They didn't want
[51:00] flawed from the start. They didn't want to have a result that said NASA has all
[51:02] to have a result that said NASA has all this information that they've kept from
[51:04] this information that they've kept from the public. They wanted the result that
[51:06] the public. They wanted the result that that they landed on, which is there's
[51:08] that they landed on, which is there's nothing to see here. And they were
[51:09] nothing to see here. And they were really discouraged from um for example,
[51:12] really discouraged from um for example, the uh that that image of a triangle,
[51:15] the uh that that image of a triangle, what clearly appears to be a triangle
[51:16] what clearly appears to be a triangle craft over the moon. Um they were told
[51:19] craft over the moon. Um they were told not to not to include that in their
[51:22] not to not to include that in their report.
[51:23] report. >> Like they were they they they were not
[51:25] >> Like they were they they they were not set up to tell the world the truth.
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[51:46] Thank you so much. >> In your view, is it possible that aliens
[51:50] >> In your view, is it possible that aliens aren't uh aren't real? Is it possible?
[51:54] aren't uh aren't real? Is it possible? Possible.
[51:57] Possible. >> So, you think it's impossible?
[51:58] >> So, you think it's impossible? >> Yeah. using the term alien you know has
[52:01] >> Yeah. using the term alien you know has a certain connotation about it. So we
[52:03] a certain connotation about it. So we can certainly say I mean the evidence is
[52:05] can certainly say I mean the evidence is absolutely clear that there is some form
[52:07] absolutely clear that there is some form of life with advanced technology. You
[52:10] of life with advanced technology. You know if you want to say well what can I
[52:11] know if you want to say well what can I prove about about it? Well that those
[52:14] prove about about it? Well that those are still unknowns that we're trying to
[52:16] are still unknowns that we're trying to sus out.
[52:18] sus out. >> I got access at a very high to a very
[52:21] >> I got access at a very high to a very high level of the government the
[52:22] high level of the government the military intelligence community. And
[52:23] military intelligence community. And there were a lot of people who talked to
[52:24] there were a lot of people who talked to me off the record that wouldn't go on
[52:26] me off the record that wouldn't go on camera. There were a lot of people who
[52:28] camera. There were a lot of people who uh couldn't tell me about classified
[52:31] uh couldn't tell me about classified information and want to know classified
[52:32] information and want to know classified information, but they all made it very
[52:35] information, but they all made it very clear um not just on camera but off the
[52:38] clear um not just on camera but off the record that there that there is evidence
[52:40] record that there that there is evidence at a classified level that is clear as
[52:43] at a classified level that is clear as day. Like some video taken when like the
[52:46] day. Like some video taken when like the bubble is turned off and you can see a
[52:47] bubble is turned off and you can see a cra a a craft of non-human origin. Clear
[52:50] cra a a craft of non-human origin. Clear as day. And there is evidence of the
[52:53] as day. And there is evidence of the technology that's been recovered and of
[52:55] technology that's been recovered and of these bodies. And when you have when if
[52:56] these bodies. And when you have when if you put yourself in my shoes, when you
[52:58] you put yourself in my shoes, when you have so many senior people across the
[53:00] have so many senior people across the military, government intelligence
[53:02] military, government intelligence committee telling you this, it's it's
[53:03] committee telling you this, it's it's really just impossible to ignore it.
[53:05] really just impossible to ignore it. Especially when most of them aren't even
[53:06] Especially when most of them aren't even friends. They're not like ideologically
[53:08] friends. They're not like ideologically aligned or politically aligned. They're
[53:10] aligned or politically aligned. They're all just different groups of people.
[53:12] all just different groups of people. >> I'm less compelled by eyewitnesses. This
[53:14] >> I'm less compelled by eyewitnesses. This is the problem because, you know, I'm
[53:15] is the problem because, you know, I'm such a big true crime fan. You hear
[53:17] such a big true crime fan. You hear about all the bloody cases where
[53:18] about all the bloody cases where eyewitness said this and then they find
[53:20] eyewitness said this and then they find out the serial killer wasn't that person
[53:22] out the serial killer wasn't that person or that thing didn't happen. So, and I
[53:24] or that thing didn't happen. So, and I also just have my own experiences of
[53:25] also just have my own experiences of like thinking I saw things when I was
[53:26] like thinking I saw things when I was younger.
[53:27] younger. >> Here's an interesting thing you just
[53:28] >> Here's an interesting thing you just made me think of. So, in the film, uh,
[53:30] made me think of. So, in the film, uh, Rubio and General Jim Clapper,
[53:32] Rubio and General Jim Clapper, >> two people who are completely
[53:34] >> two people who are completely ideologically and politically opposed to
[53:36] ideologically and politically opposed to each other,
[53:37] each other, >> made the same really intelligent point
[53:41] >> made the same really intelligent point and they both have knowledge at a a
[53:44] and they both have knowledge at a a classified level of this situation. They
[53:46] classified level of this situation. They both said a problem we as humans have is
[53:51] both said a problem we as humans have is that there's something in the human
[53:52] that there's something in the human psyche that says I cannot wrap my head
[53:55] psyche that says I cannot wrap my head around or prepare for things I haven't
[53:58] around or prepare for things I haven't seen or experienced. Right? And time and
[54:01] seen or experienced. Right? And time and time again throughout history that has
[54:04] time again throughout history that has proven to be like a human flaw. Right?
[54:06] proven to be like a human flaw. Right? Uh Rubio goes on to say that the
[54:08] Uh Rubio goes on to say that the greatest intelligence failures in US
[54:10] greatest intelligence failures in US history come from a lack of imagination.
[54:13] history come from a lack of imagination. And he cites a few examples. He says,
[54:15] And he cites a few examples. He says, "We never would have imagined the
[54:18] "We never would have imagined the Japanese could figure out how to get
[54:20] Japanese could figure out how to get torpedoes through the straits and hit us
[54:21] torpedoes through the straits and hit us at Pearl Harbor until they did." Um, he
[54:24] at Pearl Harbor until they did." Um, he says, "We never would have imagined
[54:26] says, "We never would have imagined terrorists would fly to the homeland,
[54:28] terrorists would fly to the homeland, learn to fly commercial planes and then
[54:31] learn to fly commercial planes and then use them in a terrorist attack until
[54:32] use them in a terrorist attack until they did." Right? Um he says some other
[54:35] they did." Right? Um he says some other examples too, but time and time again
[54:37] examples too, but time and time again not wrapping our head around a set of
[54:39] not wrapping our head around a set of circumstances that and using our
[54:40] circumstances that and using our imagination to think about what might
[54:42] imagination to think about what might happen or what might be happening has
[54:44] happen or what might be happening has it's bit us in the ass. And he he ends
[54:46] it's bit us in the ass. And he he ends his line of thought by saying lack of
[54:48] his line of thought by saying lack of imagination leads to strategic surprise
[54:50] imagination leads to strategic surprise like Pearl Harbor, like 9/11. And
[54:52] like Pearl Harbor, like 9/11. And sometimes strategic surprise changes the
[54:54] sometimes strategic surprise changes the course of history. Mhm.
[54:56] course of history. Mhm. >> And so, you know, him and and other
[54:58] >> And so, you know, him and and other people I interviewed think it's really
[55:00] people I interviewed think it's really important to get ahead of this as
[55:01] important to get ahead of this as opposed to waiting for something to
[55:03] opposed to waiting for something to happen as opposed to waiting for, you
[55:05] happen as opposed to waiting for, you know, to find out the hard way that
[55:06] know, to find out the hard way that China, you know, cracked this technology
[55:08] China, you know, cracked this technology before us and used it as in an act of
[55:10] before us and used it as in an act of war or uh non-human intelligent life uh
[55:14] war or uh non-human intelligent life uh does something unpredictable and then
[55:16] does something unpredictable and then all of a sudden the US government's on
[55:18] all of a sudden the US government's on its heels and so are other governments
[55:20] its heels and so are other governments on their heels explaining to the public
[55:21] on their heels explaining to the public what they've known for a long time. I
[55:23] what they've known for a long time. I I've often heard that the reason why
[55:24] I've often heard that the reason why they don't tell the general public that
[55:26] they don't tell the general public that these things exist is because general
[55:28] these things exist is because general public aren't ready for this
[55:30] public aren't ready for this information.
[55:31] information. Is that an argument? I've not really
[55:33] Is that an argument? I've not really heard you guys say that.
[55:34] heard you guys say that. >> Yeah. No, people there are people
[55:36] >> Yeah. No, people there are people involved in gatekeeping this information
[55:38] involved in gatekeeping this information that don't think the public can handle
[55:40] that don't think the public can handle the truth. Uh you know, Hal recently
[55:41] the truth. Uh you know, Hal recently told me that people in the legacy
[55:43] told me that people in the legacy program are pointing to the age of
[55:44] program are pointing to the age of disclosure and saying, "Look, this film
[55:46] disclosure and saying, "Look, this film reveals a lot and people aren't losing
[55:49] reveals a lot and people aren't losing their You know, people aren't
[55:50] their You know, people aren't jumping out of windows. is not causing
[55:52] jumping out of windows. is not causing chaos in society. Like the public can
[55:54] chaos in society. Like the public can handle the base facts. Like
[55:56] handle the base facts. Like >> of all the things you've heard, Dan,
[55:58] >> of all the things you've heard, Dan, what is the what was the most compelling
[56:00] what is the what was the most compelling story or anecdote that you heard that
[56:01] story or anecdote that you heard that convinced you?
[56:02] convinced you? >> It was really just the sheer number of
[56:05] >> It was really just the sheer number of very high level military government
[56:07] very high level military government intelligence officials who were telling
[56:09] intelligence officials who were telling me in in private settings to my face,
[56:12] me in in private settings to my face, you know, that at a classified level,
[56:15] you know, that at a classified level, they know with absolute certainty this
[56:18] they know with absolute certainty this is real. But if you had to pick one
[56:19] is real. But if you had to pick one story.
[56:20] story. >> Oh, I mean it's really it's really it
[56:22] >> Oh, I mean it's really it's really it wasn't one it really wasn't one thing
[56:24] wasn't one it really wasn't one thing for me. It was like it was the overall
[56:26] for me. It was like it was the overall it's like for example I I interviewed
[56:28] it's like for example I I interviewed Rubio and Jill Senator Jill Brown on the
[56:30] Rubio and Jill Senator Jill Brown on the same day. They both uh participated in
[56:32] same day. They both uh participated in the film and did lengthy interviews with
[56:34] the film and did lengthy interviews with me and both looked me in the face and
[56:36] me and both looked me in the face and told me they thought this was the most
[56:37] told me they thought this was the most important documentary that's ever been
[56:38] important documentary that's ever been made and that this was really important
[56:41] made and that this was really important to bring this information out in a
[56:42] to bring this information out in a thoughtful way to the public and make
[56:44] thoughtful way to the public and make them aware of what's happening. you you
[56:46] them aware of what's happening. you you can't like on hear stuff like that, you
[56:48] can't like on hear stuff like that, you know. Um, and it makes it makes an
[56:50] know. Um, and it makes it makes an impact on you.
[56:51] impact on you. >> What about you, Hal? What was the most
[56:53] >> What about you, Hal? What was the most persuasive thing that you that tipped
[56:55] persuasive thing that you that tipped you over the edge from a you know, maybe
[56:57] you over the edge from a you know, maybe being agnostic to believing that there
[56:58] being agnostic to believing that there are nonhuman intelligent life amongst
[57:02] are nonhuman intelligent life amongst us? Well, it's looking at the technology
[57:05] us? Well, it's looking at the technology which is so advanced
[57:08] which is so advanced that I'm essentially certain that no uh
[57:12] that I'm essentially certain that no uh us or our adversaries could have made
[57:14] us or our adversaries could have made it. So, somebody actually made it and it
[57:18] it. So, somebody actually made it and it has to be somebody who knows a lot more
[57:20] has to be somebody who knows a lot more about physics than we do. I mean there's
[57:23] about physics than we do. I mean there's this there's nowhere to go but to say
[57:25] this there's nowhere to go but to say okay there's somebody who is way beyond
[57:29] okay there's somebody who is way beyond humans to develop that kind of
[57:32] humans to develop that kind of technology and display it
[57:33] technology and display it >> of all the evidence that's been released
[57:35] >> of all the evidence that's been released and all of the rumors and videos and you
[57:37] and all of the rumors and videos and you know going back to the crop fields that
[57:39] know going back to the crop fields that we used to hear about many years ago
[57:41] we used to hear about many years ago presumably there's lots of this stuff
[57:43] presumably there's lots of this stuff that you don't believe
[57:44] that you don't believe >> that you think is nonsense. Oh, there's
[57:46] >> that you think is nonsense. Oh, there's definitely there's definitely tons of
[57:48] definitely there's definitely tons of >> there's tons of reports that are that
[57:50] >> there's tons of reports that are that when you look into them seem like
[57:52] when you look into them seem like for sure
[57:54] for sure >> because you know one of the things
[57:55] >> because you know one of the things people often say is that alien encounter
[57:57] people often say is that alien encounter descriptions perfectly match the pop
[57:59] descriptions perfectly match the pop culture of that era. So people saw
[58:01] culture of that era. So people saw flying sauces in the in the 1950s after
[58:03] flying sauces in the in the 1950s after sci-fi movies popularized them and gray
[58:06] sci-fi movies popularized them and gray aliens in the 1980s after books um like
[58:09] aliens in the 1980s after books um like Communion
[58:10] Communion >> popularized them. And this kind of
[58:11] >> popularized them. And this kind of suggests that sightings are born from
[58:14] suggests that sightings are born from human imagination versus
[58:16] human imagination versus >> well I I think I and I think that's a
[58:18] >> well I I think I and I think that's a reasonable uh place to come to. I think
[58:21] reasonable uh place to come to. I think I think a lot of the reports that we get
[58:24] I think a lot of the reports that we get you know we can generally set aside as
[58:27] you know we can generally set aside as being you know just manufactured by
[58:29] being you know just manufactured by humans who get caught up in this sort of
[58:32] humans who get caught up in this sort of a give and take on social media and so
[58:34] a give and take on social media and so on. But nonetheless, when you really
[58:38] on. But nonetheless, when you really zero in on actual evidence of
[58:40] zero in on actual evidence of technologies and evidence of bodies
[58:43] technologies and evidence of bodies there, you can't just say it's uh, you
[58:47] there, you can't just say it's uh, you know, it's just social contagion.
[58:48] know, it's just social contagion. >> The when I think about the technologies,
[58:50] >> The when I think about the technologies, when I watch like the Tic Tac video,
[58:52] when I watch like the Tic Tac video, >> it's kind of blurry and I don't really
[58:53] >> it's kind of blurry and I don't really know what I'm looking at.
[58:54] know what I'm looking at. >> Like there's this thing moving around on
[58:56] >> Like there's this thing moving around on the screen that's like black and white,
[58:57] the screen that's like black and white, but I don't really know what I'm looking
[58:59] but I don't really know what I'm looking at. And I think this has always been the
[59:00] at. And I think this has always been the struggle with it is we're so used to
[59:02] struggle with it is we're so used to consuming content in high definition
[59:05] consuming content in high definition that we can clearly and it appears to be
[59:07] that we can clearly and it appears to be the case that so many of these UAP
[59:09] the case that so many of these UAP videos are like in the distance and kind
[59:11] videos are like in the distance and kind of blurry and vague. So it makes them
[59:14] of blurry and vague. So it makes them harder to believe and it just I think
[59:16] harder to believe and it just I think we're all longing for like a solid
[59:18] we're all longing for like a solid video. You talked about them going in
[59:19] video. You talked about them going in and out of the water. How come someone's
[59:21] and out of the water. How come someone's not got you got if someone like falls
[59:23] not got you got if someone like falls over and we we we capture it all on
[59:25] over and we we we capture it all on camera these days. CCTV cameras on every
[59:27] camera these days. CCTV cameras on every high street. Why is there not like a
[59:29] high street. Why is there not like a solid video of something going in the
[59:31] solid video of something going in the water and out the water?
[59:32] water and out the water? >> Look, most multiple people said on on
[59:35] >> Look, most multiple people said on on camera that they have seen with their
[59:36] camera that they have seen with their own eyes, classified videos that are
[59:39] own eyes, classified videos that are indisputable. Um, and some of them told
[59:41] indisputable. Um, and some of them told me specifics like that story I told you,
[59:43] me specifics like that story I told you, the first video J Stratton was shown
[59:45] the first video J Stratton was shown when he went down this rabbit hole was a
[59:47] when he went down this rabbit hole was a triangle craft hovering over a nuclear
[59:49] triangle craft hovering over a nuclear weapons site. Uh, Air Force security
[59:51] weapons site. Uh, Air Force security guards had filmed it on a little VHS
[59:52] guards had filmed it on a little VHS camera that they had. It was it was
[59:54] camera that they had. It was it was hovering long enough for them to do
[59:55] hovering long enough for them to do that. you know, that kind of evidence
[59:57] that. you know, that kind of evidence exists, but it's just still classified.
[59:58] exists, but it's just still classified. >> Will it be coming out, do you think?
[01:00:00] >> Will it be coming out, do you think? >> I I I hope so. I I I know this process
[01:00:02] >> I I I hope so. I I I know this process is playing out right now where people
[01:00:04] is playing out right now where people like like J Stratton are helping the
[01:00:05] like like J Stratton are helping the administration find where the evidence
[01:00:08] administration find where the evidence exists so they can get their hands on it
[01:00:10] exists so they can get their hands on it and then determine whether it can safely
[01:00:12] and then determine whether it can safely be declassified. Like that process is
[01:00:14] be declassified. Like that process is definitely playing out right now.
[01:00:16] definitely playing out right now. >> Do you think do you trust the Trump
[01:00:17] >> Do you think do you trust the Trump administration to release all of the
[01:00:19] administration to release all of the available information?
[01:00:20] available information? >> I I don't think it's a question of do we
[01:00:22] >> I I don't think it's a question of do we trust the current administration will
[01:00:24] trust the current administration will release it. It's do we think all these
[01:00:27] release it. It's do we think all these federal agencies and branches of
[01:00:29] federal agencies and branches of military are going to turn over the
[01:00:32] military are going to turn over the evidence they have to the
[01:00:33] evidence they have to the administration? That's the question. And
[01:00:35] administration? That's the question. And the jury is still out on that. They're
[01:00:36] the jury is still out on that. They're they're not right now. They're pushing
[01:00:37] they're not right now. They're pushing back and they're pushing back hard. And
[01:00:40] back and they're pushing back hard. And that's why the administration is working
[01:00:42] that's why the administration is working with people like Stratton, like Jay
[01:00:44] with people like Stratton, like Jay Stratton, who who who had who over 16
[01:00:46] Stratton, who who who had who over 16 years has learned where a lot of this
[01:00:47] years has learned where a lot of this evidence is. um they're working with
[01:00:49] evidence is. um they're working with people like him to find out where the
[01:00:51] people like him to find out where the evidence sits, who who's gatekeeping it
[01:00:54] evidence sits, who who's gatekeeping it at each of these different organizations
[01:00:56] at each of these different organizations and how to get to it. Um so they're
[01:00:58] and how to get to it. Um so they're doing they're doing a factf finding
[01:01:00] doing they're doing a factf finding mission right now.
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[01:02:18] would be different? >> I think it will lead to a giant
[01:02:21] >> I think it will lead to a giant technology boom. I think once we're
[01:02:24] technology boom. I think once we're told, hey, there's this technology that
[01:02:26] told, hey, there's this technology that exists that could revolutionize the way
[01:02:28] exists that could revolutionize the way we live, you know, it could lead to
[01:02:30] we live, you know, it could lead to anti-gravity technology. It could lead
[01:02:32] anti-gravity technology. It could lead to new energy sources, new energy
[01:02:34] to new energy sources, new energy sources, solve the energy crisis
[01:02:36] sources, solve the energy crisis overnight, right? Could lead to
[01:02:37] overnight, right? Could lead to interstellar travel and going farther
[01:02:40] interstellar travel and going farther out, you know,
[01:02:41] out, you know, >> and I think it would have a great
[01:02:42] >> and I think it would have a great psychological effect because, you know,
[01:02:44] psychological effect because, you know, if suddenly uh you go from the point of
[01:02:47] if suddenly uh you go from the point of saying, well, maybe we're the only
[01:02:49] saying, well, maybe we're the only intelligent species in the universe, and
[01:02:51] intelligent species in the universe, and then you suddenly get the idea that
[01:02:54] then you suddenly get the idea that this is a universe full of life.
[01:02:56] this is a universe full of life. >> What does that mean for religion? I
[01:02:58] >> What does that mean for religion? I think all dogmas will just apply to it,
[01:03:00] think all dogmas will just apply to it, you know, and I think the Vatican's
[01:03:01] you know, and I think the Vatican's already gotten ahead of it and said, you
[01:03:04] already gotten ahead of it and said, you know, they put out a message a couple
[01:03:05] know, they put out a message a couple years ago that basically the the the
[01:03:07] years ago that basically the the the gist of it was, you know, God's God's
[01:03:10] gist of it was, you know, God's God's universe and God's work is vast and, you
[01:03:12] universe and God's work is vast and, you know,
[01:03:12] know, >> vast you couldn't you couldn't uh, you
[01:03:15] >> vast you couldn't you couldn't uh, you know, say that he he wouldn't have the
[01:03:17] know, say that he he wouldn't have the ability to do that. I mean,
[01:03:20] ability to do that. I mean, >> so I from a religious standpoint and
[01:03:23] >> so I from a religious standpoint and certainly in theaa case of the Catholic
[01:03:25] certainly in theaa case of the Catholic Church, they've had uh very positive
[01:03:28] Church, they've had uh very positive views about population being throughout
[01:03:31] views about population being throughout the universe.
[01:03:32] the universe. >> And there's nothing really, at least
[01:03:34] >> And there's nothing really, at least from the Catholic Church's perspective,
[01:03:35] from the Catholic Church's perspective, there's nothing that counters the, you
[01:03:38] there's nothing that counters the, you know, that doesn't allow you to wrap
[01:03:40] know, that doesn't allow you to wrap your head around the fact that there's
[01:03:41] your head around the fact that there's other life out there, you know.
[01:03:42] other life out there, you know. >> Are you guys religious? not like overly
[01:03:44] >> Are you guys religious? not like overly religious, but like, you know, I my my
[01:03:46] religious, but like, you know, I my my my mom's Irish and and grew up going to
[01:03:48] my mom's Irish and and grew up going to Catholic school and I, you know, I went
[01:03:50] Catholic school and I, you know, I went to a CCD and, you know, Sunday school
[01:03:52] to a CCD and, you know, Sunday school is. It's called a C CCD where I grew up.
[01:03:55] is. It's called a C CCD where I grew up. Um, but
[01:03:56] Um, but >> you believe in God?
[01:03:57] >> you believe in God? >> I do. I do.
[01:03:58] >> I do. I do. >> Do you believe in God?
[01:03:58] >> Do you believe in God? >> I do, too. Yeah. And I'm a practicing
[01:04:00] >> I do, too. Yeah. And I'm a practicing Catholic. So,
[01:04:01] Catholic. So, >> So, would that mean that you believe God
[01:04:02] >> So, would that mean that you believe God has made all of these aliens as well?
[01:04:05] has made all of these aliens as well? >> That's my That's what my worldview is.
[01:04:07] >> That's my That's what my worldview is. >> Yeah. I would think that I couldn't say
[01:04:09] >> Yeah. I would think that I couldn't say that's not the case. But you know as a
[01:04:11] that's not the case. But you know as a scientist I can't prove that that it is
[01:04:13] scientist I can't prove that that it is the case but you know just just on the
[01:04:16] the case but you know just just on the statistics of it it's pretty likely.
[01:04:20] statistics of it it's pretty likely. You know an interesting thing happening
[01:04:22] You know an interesting thing happening right now Stephen too is these people
[01:04:24] right now Stephen too is these people who have been gatekeeping the truth. Um
[01:04:27] who have been gatekeeping the truth. Um a lot of them are afraid to come forward
[01:04:29] a lot of them are afraid to come forward and tell the White House what they know
[01:04:30] and tell the White House what they know because they they think they're going to
[01:04:31] because they they think they're going to be villainized. They think the optics
[01:04:34] be villainized. They think the optics around this are such that like if
[01:04:37] around this are such that like if someone's been covering this up, they're
[01:04:39] someone's been covering this up, they're they're they're they're the villain of
[01:04:41] they're they're they're the villain of the story, right? And so, um, the White
[01:04:44] the story, right? And so, um, the White House and the Director of National
[01:04:46] House and the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of War
[01:04:50] Intelligence and the Department of War realized this and so in the last couple
[01:04:52] realized this and so in the last couple weeks, they've been messaging out to the
[01:04:54] weeks, they've been messaging out to the military and the intelligence community
[01:04:56] military and the intelligence community that this is not a witch hunt. It's not
[01:04:57] that this is not a witch hunt. It's not an endeavor to punish anyone. They want
[01:05:00] an endeavor to punish anyone. They want to encourage people to come forward.
[01:05:02] to encourage people to come forward. assure them there will be no no
[01:05:03] assure them there will be no no punishment u for being involved in
[01:05:05] punishment u for being involved in gatekeeping this. They just want to
[01:05:06] gatekeeping this. They just want to learn the truth and find out where the
[01:05:08] learn the truth and find out where the real evidence sits. So that's another
[01:05:10] real evidence sits. So that's another thing that's playing out right now that
[01:05:12] thing that's playing out right now that I think if it gets out there enough uh
[01:05:14] I think if it gets out there enough uh it will lead to more people coming
[01:05:15] it will lead to more people coming forward with that that evidence we all
[01:05:18] forward with that that evidence we all want to see.
[01:05:19] want to see. >> Yeah.
[01:05:20] >> Yeah. >> Earlier on we you talked about how some
[01:05:22] >> Earlier on we you talked about how some people feel like their lives are at risk
[01:05:24] people feel like their lives are at risk because of what they know. Has there
[01:05:26] because of what they know. Has there been any instance of anyone being
[01:05:27] been any instance of anyone being punished for saying anything in this
[01:05:29] punished for saying anything in this regard?
[01:05:30] regard? Well, certainly having having their
[01:05:32] Well, certainly having having their clearances pulled or losing their op
[01:05:36] clearances pulled or losing their op opportunities for advancement. Uh we
[01:05:39] opportunities for advancement. Uh we we've heard stories like that from from
[01:05:41] we've heard stories like that from from several people in the intelligence.
[01:05:43] several people in the intelligence. >> Is there is there anyone you can name
[01:05:45] >> Is there is there anyone you can name that has said that they were threatened
[01:05:47] that has said that they were threatened or punished or in some form because of
[01:05:50] or punished or in some form because of what they
[01:05:50] what they >> Well, certainly the the number one
[01:05:52] >> Well, certainly the the number one whistleblower for for many people has
[01:05:54] whistleblower for for many people has been David Crush. And so he has uh
[01:05:58] been David Crush. And so he has uh outlined the various steps taken against
[01:06:01] outlined the various steps taken against him to basically ruin his career
[01:06:04] him to basically ruin his career significantly enough that he went to the
[01:06:06] significantly enough that he went to the inspector general of the intelligence
[01:06:09] inspector general of the intelligence community and said I'm being punished,
[01:06:13] community and said I'm being punished, shoved aside, losing clearances and so
[01:06:15] shoved aside, losing clearances and so on because I came out with this data and
[01:06:18] on because I came out with this data and they said well what you provided us is,
[01:06:20] they said well what you provided us is, you know, serious worthy of
[01:06:22] you know, serious worthy of consideration. And I think a lot of
[01:06:23] consideration. And I think a lot of people have had their lives threatened.
[01:06:25] people have had their lives threatened. >> Um I'm not certain if if anyone has been
[01:06:29] >> Um I'm not certain if if anyone has been killed.
[01:06:30] killed. >> Um but I know people have had their
[01:06:31] >> Um but I know people have had their lives threatened.
[01:06:33] lives threatened. >> No.
[01:06:34] >> No. >> And who's threatening them?
[01:06:36] >> And who's threatening them? >> People that are involved um in this this
[01:06:41] >> People that are involved um in this this program referred to as the legacy
[01:06:42] program referred to as the legacy program
[01:06:43] program >> who think that the evidence should not
[01:06:45] >> who think that the evidence should not ever come out.
[01:06:47] ever come out. >> This legacy program. So this is a
[01:06:49] >> This legacy program. So this is a program ran within the US government to
[01:06:53] program ran within the US government to >> US government
[01:06:54] >> US government >> elements
[01:06:55] >> elements >> elements of it uh and also defense
[01:06:58] >> elements of it uh and also defense contractors
[01:06:59] contractors >> and you think the legacy program knows
[01:07:02] >> and you think the legacy program knows the truth on this regard.
[01:07:04] the truth on this regard. >> Yes, because they have the firsthand
[01:07:06] >> Yes, because they have the firsthand evidence of the crash materials and the
[01:07:09] evidence of the crash materials and the bodies.
[01:07:11] bodies. There's 80 years of data that this this
[01:07:15] There's 80 years of data that this this group has
[01:07:17] group has >> and they haven't released or leaked that
[01:07:19] >> and they haven't released or leaked that data for the last 80 years.
[01:07:21] data for the last 80 years. >> There'd be no advantage.
[01:07:23] >> There'd be no advantage. >> No one's hacked it.
[01:07:24] >> No one's hacked it. >> This this program is the epitome of a
[01:07:27] >> This this program is the epitome of a special access program. I think this
[01:07:28] special access program. I think this program is as off the grid as it it
[01:07:30] program is as off the grid as it it could possibly be.
[01:07:32] could possibly be. >> It almost seems like there's nothing
[01:07:33] >> It almost seems like there's nothing that eventually hasn't come to come to
[01:07:35] that eventually hasn't come to come to light that the government have done.
[01:07:36] light that the government have done. Like I've sat here and interviewed a lot
[01:07:38] Like I've sat here and interviewed a lot of CIA spies who've told me the history
[01:07:40] of CIA spies who've told me the history of the CIA and this program that lasted
[01:07:42] of the CIA and this program that lasted for 12 years and then it comes out and
[01:07:44] for 12 years and then it comes out and this program and I mean even some of the
[01:07:46] this program and I mean even some of the stuff that I've heard you talk about Hal
[01:07:47] stuff that I've heard you talk about Hal around um what's it called?
[01:07:49] around um what's it called? >> Remote viewing.
[01:07:50] >> Remote viewing. >> Remote viewing.
[01:07:51] >> Remote viewing. >> That was that CIA project?
[01:07:54] >> That was that CIA project? >> CIA.
[01:07:54] >> CIA. >> What is remote viewing?
[01:07:56] >> What is remote viewing? >> Remote viewing. Well, the the the CIA
[01:07:58] >> Remote viewing. Well, the the the CIA suddenly got concerned because they saw
[01:08:00] suddenly got concerned because they saw that the Soviets were spending millions
[01:08:02] that the Soviets were spending millions of dollars at some of their best
[01:08:04] of dollars at some of their best institutes to investigate the possible
[01:08:06] institutes to investigate the possible use of quote ESP.
[01:08:08] use of quote ESP. >> What's ESP?
[01:08:09] >> What's ESP? >> Psychic abilities.
[01:08:10] >> Psychic abilities. >> Yeah, psychic abilities, extra sensory
[01:08:12] >> Yeah, psychic abilities, extra sensory perception. And so, as it turns out, I
[01:08:16] perception. And so, as it turns out, I was at Stanford Research Institute and
[01:08:18] was at Stanford Research Institute and uh they saw my background. They came to
[01:08:21] uh they saw my background. They came to me and said, you know, we'd like for you
[01:08:23] me and said, you know, we'd like for you to to look into this. Is there anything
[01:08:25] to to look into this. Is there anything to this? I mean, no scientist in America
[01:08:28] to this? I mean, no scientist in America even believes there is such a thing as
[01:08:30] even believes there is such a thing as ESP.
[01:08:31] ESP. >> Who came to you?
[01:08:32] >> Who came to you? >> CIA.
[01:08:33] >> CIA. >> This is This is in the 70s.
[01:08:34] >> This is This is in the 70s. >> The CIA.
[01:08:35] >> The CIA. >> Back in the 70s.
[01:08:36] >> Back in the 70s. >> The CIA approached you in the 70s and
[01:08:37] >> The CIA approached you in the 70s and asked you to investigate remote viewing.
[01:08:39] asked you to investigate remote viewing. >> That's right. And so they asked me to
[01:08:42] >> That's right. And so they asked me to set up a small program and 50 or 60K or
[01:08:45] set up a small program and 50 or 60K or whatever. They said, you know, we hope
[01:08:47] whatever. They said, you know, we hope you'll find this is all nonsense. We
[01:08:49] you'll find this is all nonsense. We forget about it. We don't have to worry
[01:08:50] forget about it. We don't have to worry about it. And it grew into, you know,
[01:08:53] about it. And it grew into, you know, more than a two decade program. Millions
[01:08:56] more than a two decade program. Millions of dollars. Stargate is the label for it
[01:08:59] of dollars. Stargate is the label for it that most people know about because by
[01:09:01] that most people know about because by now most of the information in the
[01:09:03] now most of the information in the program came out.
[01:09:04] program came out. >> And basically it we just we just found
[01:09:06] >> And basically it we just we just found that uh people
[01:09:09] that uh people essentially just like you have artistic
[01:09:11] essentially just like you have artistic ability or athletic ability or whatever
[01:09:15] ability or athletic ability or whatever music ability. Well, we found out that
[01:09:17] music ability. Well, we found out that remote viewing, this ability to sit in a
[01:09:20] remote viewing, this ability to sit in a location and pick up information from
[01:09:24] location and pick up information from someplace far away, uh, is a talent that
[01:09:27] someplace far away, uh, is a talent that many people could, uh, demonstrate. And
[01:09:30] many people could, uh, demonstrate. And so we ended up, uh, actually training
[01:09:33] so we ended up, uh, actually training Army Intelligence officers at the Army
[01:09:35] Army Intelligence officers at the Army Intelligence and Security Command at
[01:09:37] Intelligence and Security Command at Fort me how to do this. And so,
[01:09:40] Fort me how to do this. And so, >> so wait, let me just simplify this for
[01:09:41] >> so wait, let me just simplify this for the audience that might not fully
[01:09:43] the audience that might not fully understand what we're talking about. So
[01:09:44] understand what we're talking about. So remote viewing is the idea that I could
[01:09:46] remote viewing is the idea that I could sit here in London where we are now and
[01:09:48] sit here in London where we are now and I could be trained to see what was going
[01:09:51] I could be trained to see what was going on in another part of the world
[01:09:53] on in another part of the world >> to make your mind's eye go to a remote
[01:09:55] >> to make your mind's eye go to a remote location.
[01:09:56] location. >> I'll give you a specific example. A
[01:09:59] >> I'll give you a specific example. A Soviet plane that CIA wanted to get hold
[01:10:01] Soviet plane that CIA wanted to get hold of went down somewhere in Africa and
[01:10:04] of went down somewhere in Africa and they didn't they didn't know where
[01:10:06] they didn't they didn't know where because the pilot had bailed out and it
[01:10:08] because the pilot had bailed out and it just went on till it ran out of gas. So,
[01:10:11] just went on till it ran out of gas. So, we got two of our quote best remote
[01:10:13] we got two of our quote best remote viewers, one that worked for the Air
[01:10:15] viewers, one that worked for the Air Force and one that worked for my
[01:10:17] Force and one that worked for my organization to say, "Okay, here's a map
[01:10:20] organization to say, "Okay, here's a map of Africa. Where's that damn plane? We
[01:10:22] of Africa. Where's that damn plane? We got to go in and get it." And they put
[01:10:25] got to go in and get it." And they put an X on the map that was in three miles
[01:10:27] an X on the map that was in three miles of where the plane went down out of the
[01:10:29] of where the plane went down out of the hundreds of thousands of square miles.
[01:10:31] hundreds of thousands of square miles. And so, the CIA went in and got the
[01:10:32] And so, the CIA went in and got the plane. So, I mean, it was, you know, how
[01:10:34] plane. So, I mean, it was, you know, how do they do that? Well,
[01:10:36] do they do that? Well, >> by the way, there's an audio recording
[01:10:37] >> by the way, there's an audio recording of President Jimmy Carter telling that
[01:10:39] of President Jimmy Carter telling that story.
[01:10:39] story. >> Yeah.
[01:10:41] >> Yeah. Hm.
[01:10:41] Hm. >> Post post presidency.
[01:10:43] >> Post post presidency. >> Maybe we should play that.
[01:10:45] >> Maybe we should play that. >> One time we had a a small plane go down
[01:10:48] >> One time we had a a small plane go down somewhere in Africa. We were not able to
[01:10:51] somewhere in Africa. We were not able to find it by surveillance from our
[01:10:54] find it by surveillance from our satellites. So the director of the CIA,
[01:10:58] satellites. So the director of the CIA, he was also director of all the
[01:10:59] he was also director of all the intelligence agencies,
[01:11:01] intelligence agencies, heard about a a woman in California that
[01:11:05] heard about a a woman in California that uh was a medium and he uh contacted her
[01:11:10] uh was a medium and he uh contacted her and she gave him the latitude and
[01:11:15] and she gave him the latitude and longitude of the plane's whereabouts.
[01:11:18] longitude of the plane's whereabouts. And the next time one of our space
[01:11:21] And the next time one of our space satellites went over that area, we
[01:11:23] satellites went over that area, we located the plane where she said it was.
[01:11:25] located the plane where she said it was. >> Again, this sounds like it's impossible.
[01:11:28] >> Again, this sounds like it's impossible. >> Sounds like
[01:11:29] >> Sounds like >> it sounds completely bananas. It sounds
[01:11:30] >> it sounds completely bananas. It sounds like something out of an X-Men comic
[01:11:32] like something out of an X-Men comic book. It sounds crazy, but
[01:11:35] book. It sounds crazy, but >> well, I was okay.
[01:11:37] >> well, I was okay. >> Be really practical about it. Uh, you
[01:11:39] >> Be really practical about it. Uh, you know, they they often are skeptics would
[01:11:42] know, they they often are skeptics would say, "Well, if they're so psychic, why
[01:11:43] say, "Well, if they're so psychic, why aren't they rich? Why aren't they in the
[01:11:44] aren't they rich? Why aren't they in the stock market or whatever?"
[01:11:46] stock market or whatever?" So we set up a little program on a
[01:11:49] So we set up a little program on a challenge to predict silver futures
[01:11:52] challenge to predict silver futures >> to predict what
[01:11:53] >> to predict what >> silver futures
[01:11:54] >> silver futures >> just the value of silver
[01:11:54] >> just the value of silver >> yeah the value of silver silver on a
[01:11:56] >> yeah the value of silver silver on a daily basis was it going to go up or go
[01:11:58] daily basis was it going to go up or go down
[01:12:00] down >> so we had somebody said okay I I will if
[01:12:03] >> so we had somebody said okay I I will if you'll set up a little program like that
[01:12:04] you'll set up a little program like that for 30 days I'll bet on what your quote
[01:12:07] for 30 days I'll bet on what your quote remote viewers say and I'll put the
[01:12:10] remote viewers say and I'll put the money in and I'll give you 10% of what I
[01:12:12] money in and I'll give you 10% of what I make said okay fine now long story short
[01:12:16] make said okay fine now long story short uh made um $260,000 in the 30 days. We
[01:12:21] uh made um $260,000 in the 30 days. We got our 10% which is $26,000.
[01:12:24] got our 10% which is $26,000. So people could actually in this case
[01:12:28] So people could actually in this case even look into the future a day and
[01:12:32] even look into the future a day and generate a description of what they were
[01:12:34] generate a description of what they were going to see and handle the following
[01:12:36] going to see and handle the following day.
[01:12:36] day. >> Presumably not everybody. How many
[01:12:38] >> Presumably not everybody. How many people did you have do that experiment?
[01:12:40] people did you have do that experiment? >> We had uh seven in that experiment. And
[01:12:42] >> We had uh seven in that experiment. And how many of them were successful in
[01:12:44] how many of them were successful in generating?
[01:12:44] generating? >> Six of the seven uh generated really
[01:12:47] >> Six of the seven uh generated really good data.
[01:12:48] good data. >> So are those six of people now rich?
[01:12:51] >> So are those six of people now rich? >> Well, I don't know. Some of them may may
[01:12:54] >> Well, I don't know. Some of them may may have followed up. They don't
[01:12:56] have followed up. They don't >> Why were those six people picked?
[01:12:58] >> Why were those six people picked? >> Since we had learned that sort of
[01:13:00] >> Since we had learned that sort of anybody can do this. Uh we were actually
[01:13:03] anybody can do this. Uh we were actually raising money for a school that was
[01:13:06] raising money for a school that was being put together. So, I just went to
[01:13:08] being put together. So, I just went to the board of directors and said, "Okay,
[01:13:10] the board of directors and said, "Okay, I'm going to give you a crash course
[01:13:12] I'm going to give you a crash course over the weekend in quote remote viewing
[01:13:14] over the weekend in quote remote viewing of the type we train intelligence
[01:13:16] of the type we train intelligence officers to do." And um so you're going
[01:13:20] officers to do." And um so you're going to be it.
[01:13:21] to be it. >> So, you just It was the board of the
[01:13:23] >> So, you just It was the board of the school.
[01:13:23] school. >> The board of the school. Yeah.
[01:13:25] >> The board of the school. Yeah. >> Okay.
[01:13:26] >> Okay. >> They all knew what I did for a living.
[01:13:27] >> They all knew what I did for a living. And so
[01:13:28] And so >> this program Stargate got so much um
[01:13:31] >> this program Stargate got so much um actionable intelligence from the remote
[01:13:33] actionable intelligence from the remote viewers that House started briefing at
[01:13:35] viewers that House started briefing at the time the director of the CIA on a
[01:13:37] the time the director of the CIA on a regular basis.
[01:13:38] regular basis. >> Yeah, I'm I briefed all the way up to
[01:13:39] >> Yeah, I'm I briefed all the way up to Bill Casey, the director of the CIA.
[01:13:42] Bill Casey, the director of the CIA. >> So does it still exist this program in
[01:13:44] >> So does it still exist this program in any capacity?
[01:13:45] any capacity? >> Remote viewing.
[01:13:46] >> Remote viewing. >> If it does, you wouldn't hear about it.
[01:13:48] >> If it does, you wouldn't hear about it. >> Why?
[01:13:50] >> Why? >> Because
[01:13:52] >> Because it would be about black highly
[01:13:54] it would be about black highly classified program.
[01:13:55] classified program. >> Why? because we don't want our
[01:13:57] >> Why? because we don't want our adversaries to know how we might be
[01:13:59] adversaries to know how we might be getting access to their data.
[01:14:01] getting access to their data. >> You just told us,
[01:14:02] >> You just told us, >> but people can not believe that. And
[01:14:04] >> but people can not believe that. And that's fine.
[01:14:05] that's fine. >> But aren't you under some sort of
[01:14:07] >> But aren't you under some sort of contract?
[01:14:08] contract? >> Well, as it turns out, the CIA and and
[01:14:10] >> Well, as it turns out, the CIA and and DIA also went to the DIA. That program
[01:14:13] DIA also went to the DIA. That program finally got declassified at the level it
[01:14:17] finally got declassified at the level it was operating at and that you can go to
[01:14:19] was operating at and that you can go to the CIA reading room and you can get all
[01:14:22] the CIA reading room and you can get all the documents on it. So your work was
[01:14:24] the documents on it. So your work was originally classified.
[01:14:25] originally classified. >> Oh, it was originally a top secret
[01:14:28] >> Oh, it was originally a top secret special access program. Yeah.
[01:14:31] special access program. Yeah. >> There's a part of me that goes, listen,
[01:14:32] >> There's a part of me that goes, listen, if people could do remote viewing and
[01:14:34] if people could do remote viewing and see, you know, into other parts of the
[01:14:37] see, you know, into other parts of the world or predict the things that you're
[01:14:39] world or predict the things that you're saying, I mean, if if if it was
[01:14:43] saying, I mean, if if if it was trainable,
[01:14:44] trainable, everything so like life as we know it
[01:14:47] everything so like life as we know it would be completely flipped on its head.
[01:14:49] would be completely flipped on its head. I think it's unreasonable to think that
[01:14:51] I think it's unreasonable to think that when Stargate became public, the US
[01:14:54] when Stargate became public, the US government stopped
[01:14:57] government stopped remote viewing.
[01:14:58] remote viewing. >> I mean, I wouldn't stop if I was the US
[01:14:59] >> I mean, I wouldn't stop if I was the US government. If it if it worked, I
[01:15:00] government. If it if it worked, I wouldn't stop.
[01:15:01] wouldn't stop. >> I think it just went underground. Moved
[01:15:02] >> I think it just went underground. Moved to a different agency.
[01:15:03] to a different agency. >> Went underground.
[01:15:05] >> Went underground. >> So, you were training people to do it
[01:15:06] >> So, you were training people to do it though.
[01:15:08] though. >> Yeah, we Well, we had Yeah, we had we
[01:15:10] >> Yeah, we Well, we had Yeah, we had we had people that we trained.
[01:15:11] had people that we trained. >> So, train me.
[01:15:13] >> So, train me. >> Well, yeah. How do you train them?
[01:15:15] >> Well, yeah. How do you train them? Now, a number of the military
[01:15:18] Now, a number of the military intelligence officers that we train have
[01:15:20] intelligence officers that we train have now left the military and they do have
[01:15:23] now left the military and they do have training courses.
[01:15:24] training courses. >> Do you do you believe it?
[01:15:26] >> Do you do you believe it? >> I do. At first, I thought it just
[01:15:28] >> I do. At first, I thought it just sounded too much like something in a
[01:15:29] sounded too much like something in a comic book, right? But the more I first
[01:15:33] comic book, right? But the more I first read about Stargate in the declassified
[01:15:36] read about Stargate in the declassified documents, started to realize how
[01:15:37] documents, started to realize how serious the government took it and the
[01:15:40] serious the government took it and the more I learned about it through how and
[01:15:42] more I learned about it through how and then eventually um I really don't want
[01:15:44] then eventually um I really don't want to get into the details of this but
[01:15:46] to get into the details of this but eventually um I got connected with
[01:15:48] eventually um I got connected with someone who has done remote viewing for
[01:15:50] someone who has done remote viewing for the government and they did a
[01:15:51] the government and they did a demonstration for me that blew my mind
[01:15:54] demonstration for me that blew my mind >> cuz you would think if anyone was
[01:15:56] >> cuz you would think if anyone was capable of doing remote viewing they
[01:15:57] capable of doing remote viewing they could go on the internet and make one
[01:16:00] could go on the internet and make one predict or do one video that would be,
[01:16:02] predict or do one video that would be, you know, proven to be true and they
[01:16:04] you know, proven to be true and they would literally be considered to be a
[01:16:07] would literally be considered to be a superhum. Like they would literally be I
[01:16:11] superhum. Like they would literally be I mean people would probably think they
[01:16:12] mean people would probably think they were a deity or or a spiritual leader or
[01:16:14] were a deity or or a spiritual leader or something if one person could do what
[01:16:17] something if one person could do what >> we found was that it seems to be an act
[01:16:20] >> we found was that it seems to be an act action that is just part of the human
[01:16:23] action that is just part of the human makeup.
[01:16:24] makeup. >> And so it isn't like they're super deity
[01:16:27] >> And so it isn't like they're super deity or godlike or really off the charts.
[01:16:30] or godlike or really off the charts. It's something that people can learn to
[01:16:31] It's something that people can learn to do like they can learn to play the piano
[01:16:33] do like they can learn to play the piano or whatever this for whatever reason.
[01:16:36] or whatever this for whatever reason. >> Maybe it was
[01:16:36] >> Maybe it was >> now we have new uh you know
[01:16:39] >> now we have new uh you know psychiatrists and neurohysiologists
[01:16:42] psychiatrists and neurohysiologists beginning to study you know how does
[01:16:44] beginning to study you know how does consciousness do its thing in the brain
[01:16:47] consciousness do its thing in the brain and so on. And are there elements of it
[01:16:50] and so on. And are there elements of it uh once you get into quantum theory and
[01:16:52] uh once you get into quantum theory and quantum entanglement that would say you
[01:16:54] quantum entanglement that would say you could have evidence uh you know beyond
[01:16:57] could have evidence uh you know beyond just our physical structure
[01:16:59] just our physical structure >> like it could be rationalized with like
[01:17:00] >> like it could be rationalized with like a quantum connection basically the the
[01:17:02] a quantum connection basically the the the moving your mind's eye to another
[01:17:04] the moving your mind's eye to another location which also goes to like you
[01:17:06] location which also goes to like you know how's life very interestingly you
[01:17:08] know how's life very interestingly you know first was the Stargate stuff and
[01:17:10] know first was the Stargate stuff and then he got into UAP and the overlap
[01:17:13] then he got into UAP and the overlap that I find fascinating is some of these
[01:17:15] that I find fascinating is some of these craft that have been found or crashes
[01:17:19] craft that have been found or crashes that have happened. Um the reports from
[01:17:21] that have happened. Um the reports from people involved say that a lot of them
[01:17:24] people involved say that a lot of them don't have any control panels in them.
[01:17:26] don't have any control panels in them. >> Mhm.
[01:17:26] >> Mhm. >> Like they're basically empty other than
[01:17:28] >> Like they're basically empty other than seats, which suggests that maybe there's
[01:17:31] seats, which suggests that maybe there's some sort of mind connection controlling
[01:17:34] some sort of mind connection controlling these craft.
[01:17:35] these craft. >> I did wonder about the crafts. I
[01:17:36] >> I did wonder about the crafts. I thought, you know, if I was an advanced
[01:17:37] thought, you know, if I was an advanced civilization, why would I and I was that
[01:17:39] civilization, why would I and I was that smart, why would I send life to these
[01:17:42] smart, why would I send life to these planets when I could just send the
[01:17:43] planets when I could just send the crafts? You know, why am I sending
[01:17:45] crafts? You know, why am I sending biological life when I could just send
[01:17:47] biological life when I could just send the
[01:17:47] the >> Maybe they're manufactured biological
[01:17:49] >> Maybe they're manufactured biological life. Maybe it's maybe they're the
[01:17:50] life. Maybe it's maybe they're the equivalent. Maybe they're not sentient
[01:17:51] equivalent. Maybe they're not sentient sentient. Yeah,
[01:17:53] sentient. Yeah, >> it's true.
[01:17:54] >> it's true. >> But the remote viewing stuff opens up a
[01:17:56] >> But the remote viewing stuff opens up a lot of possibilities if
[01:17:57] lot of possibilities if >> Yeah. I mean, we as part of this CIA
[01:18:00] >> Yeah. I mean, we as part of this CIA program, we found that uh people could
[01:18:04] program, we found that uh people could affect quantum devices that were totally
[01:18:08] affect quantum devices that were totally shielded by superconducting shielding.
[01:18:10] shielded by superconducting shielding. >> Tell them tell them that particular
[01:18:11] >> Tell them tell them that particular story. That's yeah, we we uh there's a
[01:18:15] story. That's yeah, we we uh there's a quote psychic so-called and uh so I
[01:18:19] quote psychic so-called and uh so I brought him to Stanford and I I was
[01:18:20] brought him to Stanford and I I was skeptical at the time and uh I said okay
[01:18:23] skeptical at the time and uh I said okay well we've got this super experiment
[01:18:26] well we've got this super experiment where there's tiny quantum chip down
[01:18:29] where there's tiny quantum chip down inside of this electrical shielding
[01:18:31] inside of this electrical shielding magnetic shielding superconducting
[01:18:33] magnetic shielding superconducting shielding we want to see if you can
[01:18:36] shielding we want to see if you can affect it
[01:18:38] affect it and he did. I mean, this is supposed to
[01:18:40] and he did. I mean, this is supposed to be totally nonaffectable
[01:18:43] be totally nonaffectable from by anything on the outside. In
[01:18:45] from by anything on the outside. In fact, it was developed by the Navy to
[01:18:48] fact, it was developed by the Navy to just look for quirks and stuff like
[01:18:50] just look for quirks and stuff like that. And so, it was supposed to not be
[01:18:53] that. And so, it was supposed to not be influenced from the outside by anything.
[01:18:56] influenced from the outside by anything. And he influenced it. And when I say he
[01:18:58] And he influenced it. And when I say he influenced it, I'm not just saying
[01:18:59] influenced it, I'm not just saying there's a little blip that, you know,
[01:19:01] there's a little blip that, you know, you could kind of read into it. No, it
[01:19:04] you could kind of read into it. No, it it was a system where it ordinarily just
[01:19:07] it was a system where it ordinarily just had an oscillating signal like that and
[01:19:10] had an oscillating signal like that and then when he affected it just stopped
[01:19:11] then when he affected it just stopped the oscillation
[01:19:13] the oscillation and then he also make the oscillation go
[01:19:15] and then he also make the oscillation go twice as fast. Of course, poor graduate
[01:19:18] twice as fast. Of course, poor graduate student who's life dependent on this not
[01:19:19] student who's life dependent on this not being affected from the outside, you
[01:19:22] being affected from the outside, you know, really. But then they uh that that
[01:19:25] know, really. But then they uh that that that raised a big issue for them. That
[01:19:27] that raised a big issue for them. That means uh gee does that mean if we put if
[01:19:30] means uh gee does that mean if we put if we hide our documents inside of
[01:19:32] we hide our documents inside of superconducting safes the Russians might
[01:19:34] superconducting safes the Russians might be able to so actually when we had
[01:19:37] be able to so actually when we had donant the American remote viewers got
[01:19:40] donant the American remote viewers got together with the Soviet remote viewers
[01:19:42] together with the Soviet remote viewers and traded war stories did experiments
[01:19:45] and traded war stories did experiments together for
[01:19:46] together for >> you know I'm I think I'm naturally
[01:19:48] >> you know I'm I think I'm naturally skeptical because I'm skeptical with all
[01:19:50] skeptical because I'm skeptical with all things but I'm often proven wrong. So,
[01:19:52] things but I'm often proven wrong. So, you know, my fiance, she um she believes
[01:19:55] you know, my fiance, she um she believes lots of things I don't believe. And so,
[01:19:56] lots of things I don't believe. And so, so frequently she's been proven right in
[01:19:58] so frequently she's been proven right in those things that I remain open-minded
[01:20:01] those things that I remain open-minded to things in life because I've leared
[01:20:04] to things in life because I've leared to. So, I think that's where I remain. I
[01:20:07] to. So, I think that's where I remain. I remain open-minded. And I think on the
[01:20:09] remain open-minded. And I think on the balance of probability, if you ask me,
[01:20:11] balance of probability, if you ask me, do I think there's other life in the
[01:20:12] do I think there's other life in the universe? I think it would be crazy to
[01:20:14] universe? I think it would be crazy to say there wasn't.
[01:20:15] say there wasn't. >> Right. Right.
[01:20:16] >> Right. Right. >> But, but has there been life that has
[01:20:17] >> But, but has there been life that has arrived here that we've recovered? I
[01:20:20] arrived here that we've recovered? I just I would need more evidence. Is that
[01:20:23] just I would need more evidence. Is that >> I I think I think that's the right
[01:20:24] >> I I think I think that's the right attitude and we're hoping that uh with
[01:20:27] attitude and we're hoping that uh with the
[01:20:29] the release of documents that's starting to
[01:20:31] release of documents that's starting to happen now that you'll get that
[01:20:33] happen now that you'll get that evidence. But in the absence of actually
[01:20:36] evidence. But in the absence of actually getting access to the evidence, it's
[01:20:38] getting access to the evidence, it's very reasonable to be skeptical.
[01:20:40] very reasonable to be skeptical. >> Yeah, absolutely. I do think though that
[01:20:43] >> Yeah, absolutely. I do think though that the the current administration in the US
[01:20:46] the the current administration in the US is so focused on following through with
[01:20:48] is so focused on following through with this directive the president gave to to
[01:20:51] this directive the president gave to to get all the evidence within the
[01:20:53] get all the evidence within the possession of the federal government,
[01:20:55] possession of the federal government, all the different agencies, the military
[01:20:56] all the different agencies, the military branches, and then figure out what can
[01:20:58] branches, and then figure out what can be declassified. I think they're taking
[01:20:59] be declassified. I think they're taking it so serious that we're going to we're
[01:21:00] it so serious that we're going to we're going to get to more tranches of more
[01:21:02] going to get to more tranches of more meaningful evidence. And I think
[01:21:03] meaningful evidence. And I think eventually we'll get to that thing that
[01:21:05] eventually we'll get to that thing that we that that moment that we've all only
[01:21:07] we that that moment that we've all only seen in movies where a sitting president
[01:21:08] seen in movies where a sitting president steps to a microphone and tells the
[01:21:10] steps to a microphone and tells the world we're not alone in the universe. I
[01:21:11] world we're not alone in the universe. I think I think we're going to get there.
[01:21:13] think I think we're going to get there. >> I think so too.
[01:21:16] >> I think so too. >> Just a matter of time.
[01:21:18] >> Just a matter of time. >> Does it change the meaning of life if
[01:21:20] >> Does it change the meaning of life if that becomes the case? Does it does it
[01:21:21] that becomes the case? Does it does it mean anything for us as humans?
[01:21:23] mean anything for us as humans? >> What do you think the meaning of life
[01:21:25] >> What do you think the meaning of life is? How? And do you think we should
[01:21:26] is? How? And do you think we should change our behavior in any way even if
[01:21:28] change our behavior in any way even if this
[01:21:29] this >> moment does occur? I think if we found
[01:21:31] >> moment does occur? I think if we found out that there were life throughout the
[01:21:33] out that there were life throughout the universe that it's uh it can be
[01:21:36] universe that it's uh it can be developed in all kinds of forms then
[01:21:39] developed in all kinds of forms then then that makes us uh take a new look at
[01:21:42] then that makes us uh take a new look at well what does it mean to be human you
[01:21:44] well what does it mean to be human you know we ought to think about if we can
[01:21:47] know we ought to think about if we can interacting with these other species and
[01:21:49] interacting with these other species and seeing what we can learn from them and
[01:21:51] seeing what we can learn from them and what might they learn from us and so it
[01:21:54] what might they learn from us and so it just opens up a whole new sort of view
[01:21:57] just opens up a whole new sort of view of what the universe is like I mean I've
[01:22:00] of what the universe is like I mean I've I've got 15 grandkids. They should grow
[01:22:02] I've got 15 grandkids. They should grow up in a universe where it's teeming with
[01:22:05] up in a universe where it's teeming with life and they know that. And that's a
[01:22:07] life and they know that. And that's a very uh kind of an exciting kind of
[01:22:09] very uh kind of an exciting kind of thing.
[01:22:10] thing. >> I think it also could be the one thing
[01:22:11] >> I think it also could be the one thing that could unify all of humanity. You
[01:22:14] that could unify all of humanity. You know, Reagan gave a great speech during
[01:22:16] know, Reagan gave a great speech during his presidency at the United Nations
[01:22:17] his presidency at the United Nations where he said he often thinks that it
[01:22:20] where he said he often thinks that it might be a threat from outside this
[01:22:22] might be a threat from outside this universe that makes all of humanity come
[01:22:25] universe that makes all of humanity come together and think more about what it
[01:22:26] together and think more about what it has in common than than its differences
[01:22:29] has in common than than its differences um and you know moves them past the the
[01:22:32] um and you know moves them past the the the the conflicts of the moment. And
[01:22:35] the the conflicts of the moment. And that might be you know wishful thinking
[01:22:37] that might be you know wishful thinking and might be naive but it also might
[01:22:39] and might be naive but it also might actually be the one thing that could
[01:22:41] actually be the one thing that could that could line people up. Has it
[01:22:43] that could line people up. Has it changed how you think about the the
[01:22:45] changed how you think about the the meaning of life?
[01:22:46] meaning of life? >> Between what I've learned about the the
[01:22:49] >> Between what I've learned about the the reality of the UAP situation and the
[01:22:51] reality of the UAP situation and the existence of non-human element life,
[01:22:52] existence of non-human element life, what I've learned about, for example,
[01:22:54] what I've learned about, for example, remote viewing, it's made me realize
[01:22:56] remote viewing, it's made me realize that our sort of western present day
[01:23:00] that our sort of western present day view of reality is not complete. You
[01:23:03] view of reality is not complete. You know, we think we know everything there
[01:23:04] know, we think we know everything there is, you know, to life and and how things
[01:23:07] is, you know, to life and and how things work and we just don't. And when you're
[01:23:09] work and we just don't. And when you're honest with yourself and you look back
[01:23:10] honest with yourself and you look back at history, all the times people thought
[01:23:12] at history, all the times people thought that they were they were proven wrong
[01:23:14] that they were they were proven wrong pretty quickly.
[01:23:15] pretty quickly. >> And so it's made me open to a lot more
[01:23:18] >> And so it's made me open to a lot more possibilities um than than I would have
[01:23:21] possibilities um than than I would have been just just 10 years ago.
[01:23:24] been just just 10 years ago. >> You think it'd be a renaissance in in
[01:23:26] >> You think it'd be a renaissance in in our attitudes toward life and and
[01:23:28] our attitudes toward life and and everything. Yeah.
[01:23:29] everything. Yeah. >> Are you both open to being wrong?
[01:23:32] >> Are you both open to being wrong? >> Yeah. Look, I should have said this
[01:23:33] >> Yeah. Look, I should have said this early on. When I first started making my
[01:23:35] early on. When I first started making my documentary, I was totally prepared to
[01:23:38] documentary, I was totally prepared to have people tell me, "Look, this is all
[01:23:40] have people tell me, "Look, this is all It was all cover for our
[01:23:42] It was all cover for our classified projects."
[01:23:44] classified projects." >> Did they?
[01:23:44] >> Did they? >> No, no one did. That was the crazy
[01:23:46] >> No, no one did. That was the crazy thing. Not Not a single person did. I
[01:23:48] thing. Not Not a single person did. I would I was trying to pull it out of
[01:23:49] would I was trying to pull it out of people. I'd be like, you know, come on.
[01:23:52] people. I'd be like, you know, come on. This is really This is like a black
[01:23:54] This is really This is like a black project and un unagnowledged special
[01:23:56] project and un unagnowledged special access program, right? Like just just
[01:23:58] access program, right? Like just just say nothing if that's the case. And they
[01:24:00] say nothing if that's the case. And they were like, "No, dude. Not not even
[01:24:01] were like, "No, dude. Not not even close." like it was o over and over and
[01:24:04] close." like it was o over and over and these weren't random people. These were
[01:24:05] these weren't random people. These were like senior people on the Senate
[01:24:07] like senior people on the Senate Intelligence Committee, on the Senate
[01:24:08] Intelligence Committee, on the Senate Armed Services Committee, um leaders in
[01:24:11] Armed Services Committee, um leaders in in the intelligence community, leaders
[01:24:13] in the intelligence community, leaders in in in the military, and so yeah, it's
[01:24:17] in in in the military, and so yeah, it's hard to ignore.
[01:24:18] hard to ignore. >> Yeah.
[01:24:18] >> Yeah. >> Well, Trump has released the first round
[01:24:20] >> Well, Trump has released the first round of the UAP reports. Um so I guess in
[01:24:24] of the UAP reports. Um so I guess in many respects, this conversation is to
[01:24:26] many respects, this conversation is to be continued.
[01:24:26] be continued. >> Yeah. Yeah. And we we we have been told
[01:24:28] >> Yeah. Yeah. And we we we have been told by our friends in government that the
[01:24:30] by our friends in government that the next trunch of evidence is likely to
[01:24:32] next trunch of evidence is likely to come out in the next 30 days or so and
[01:24:34] come out in the next 30 days or so and it's going to be a rolling
[01:24:36] it's going to be a rolling declassification process. So there'll be
[01:24:38] declassification process. So there'll be a lot more to talk about in the near
[01:24:39] a lot more to talk about in the near future.
[01:24:40] future. >> Thank you so much for your time. Really
[01:24:42] >> Thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. I feel very
[01:24:42] appreciate it. I feel very >> Thank you for your interest. Curious
[01:24:44] >> Thank you for your interest. Curious >> very very curious and I I highly
[01:24:46] >> very very curious and I I highly recommend people go check out your
[01:24:47] recommend people go check out your documentary. I'm going to link it below.
[01:24:49] documentary. I'm going to link it below. Um, and I think one of the great things
[01:24:50] Um, and I think one of the great things about the documentary is the diversity
[01:24:52] about the documentary is the diversity of people you've spoken to, including
[01:24:54] of people you've spoken to, including Marco Rubio, who is now working
[01:24:55] Marco Rubio, who is now working alongside President Trump and many
[01:24:57] alongside President Trump and many others, including yourself, Hal, um, and
[01:24:59] others, including yourself, Hal, um, and other guests that I've people like Jay,
[01:25:01] other guests that I've people like Jay, who, um, I hope to speak to sometime
[01:25:02] who, um, I hope to speak to sometime soon.
[01:25:03] soon. >> Cool.
[01:25:04] >> Cool. >> Thank you for having us. And thank you
[01:25:05] >> Thank you for having us. And thank you for bringing attention to interesting
[01:25:07] for bringing attention to interesting topics like this. I really do think, you
[01:25:09] topics like this. I really do think, you know,
[01:25:10] know, >> you know, people like you are are
[01:25:11] >> you know, people like you are are helping open people's minds. You know,
[01:25:12] helping open people's minds. You know, in the past, you only had, you know, it
[01:25:14] in the past, you only had, you know, it wasn't that long ago there's only four
[01:25:15] wasn't that long ago there's only four TV networks, right? and a small group of
[01:25:18] TV networks, right? and a small group of legacy media people controlled what
[01:25:20] legacy media people controlled what people thought about really. So people
[01:25:21] people thought about really. So people here are opening up everyone's minds to
[01:25:23] here are opening up everyone's minds to other possibilities and other
[01:25:24] other possibilities and other information. And so thank you.
[01:25:26] information. And so thank you. >> Yeah, it's it's it's interesting cuz
[01:25:29] >> Yeah, it's it's it's interesting cuz again sometimes I think I have to remind
[01:25:31] again sometimes I think I have to remind the audience of like why I do what I do
[01:25:32] the audience of like why I do what I do and why I pick the subjects that I pick.
[01:25:34] and why I pick the subjects that I pick. But it's honestly just what I'm curious
[01:25:36] But it's honestly just what I'm curious about.
[01:25:37] about. >> And if if something rises in public
[01:25:38] >> And if if something rises in public curiosity and it's in my my own
[01:25:40] curiosity and it's in my my own curiosity, then I'll speak about it.
[01:25:41] curiosity, then I'll speak about it. It's not an endorsement of me believing
[01:25:43] It's not an endorsement of me believing everything. It is just me wanting to
[01:25:46] everything. It is just me wanting to learn more.
[01:25:46] learn more. >> Yeah.
[01:25:47] >> Yeah. >> And I, you know, I I wish we lived in a
[01:25:49] >> And I, you know, I I wish we lived in a society that was more open-minded
[01:25:50] society that was more open-minded generally to the people on the other
[01:25:51] generally to the people on the other side of the aisle or to subjects that
[01:25:53] side of the aisle or to subjects that are currently considered to be, I don't
[01:25:55] are currently considered to be, I don't know, controversial or or or not.
[01:25:58] know, controversial or or or not. Because, you know, it's not lost on me
[01:26:00] Because, you know, it's not lost on me that my own very existence as a black
[01:26:03] that my own very existence as a black businessman is in of itself um something
[01:26:06] businessman is in of itself um something that was once a very controversial idea.
[01:26:09] that was once a very controversial idea. And so I'm all for, you know, uh,
[01:26:11] And so I'm all for, you know, uh, controversial ideas being having some
[01:26:14] controversial ideas being having some kind of space to be.
[01:26:15] kind of space to be. >> Well, every major breakthrough in the
[01:26:17] >> Well, every major breakthrough in the history of humanity came from someone
[01:26:18] history of humanity came from someone being curious, right? And wanting to
[01:26:20] being curious, right? And wanting to learn about something they weren't aware
[01:26:22] learn about something they weren't aware of. So I I think great things will come
[01:26:24] of. So I I think great things will come out of it. And and and you just touched
[01:26:25] out of it. And and and you just touched on something that we didn't mention,
[01:26:26] on something that we didn't mention, which is I found shockingly that this is
[01:26:30] which is I found shockingly that this is the the UAP issue, non-human cells in
[01:26:32] the the UAP issue, non-human cells in life, is the most bipartisan issue in
[01:26:34] life, is the most bipartisan issue in Washington DC at a time when Democrats
[01:26:37] Washington DC at a time when Democrats and Republicans in the United States
[01:26:38] and Republicans in the United States can't agree on anything.
[01:26:39] can't agree on anything. >> They're completely lined up on this
[01:26:41] >> They're completely lined up on this being the biggest issue of our time.
[01:26:43] being the biggest issue of our time. Extremely significant. And like that
[01:26:45] Extremely significant. And like that says a lot, too. Yeah.
[01:26:47] says a lot, too. Yeah. >> Yeah.
[01:26:47] >> Yeah. >> To be continued.
[01:26:48] >> To be continued. >> To be continued. YouTube have this new
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[01:26:52] crazy algorithm where they know exactly what video you would like to watch next
[01:26:54] what video you would like to watch next based on AI and all of your viewing
[01:26:56] based on AI and all of your viewing behavior. And the algorithm says that
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Summary

TL;DR — A recent declassification of UAP (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena) evidence by the US government suggests an 80-year cover-up of non-human intelligent life, involving a secret race to reverse-engineer advanced technology. High-level officials and scientists, including former intelligence operatives, have come forward, providing credible testimony and data that indicate UAP crashes have occurred, sometimes with non-human bodies recovered.

Key points

• The US government has allegedly engaged in an 80-year cover-up of non-human intelligent life, with elements of the government actively suppressing information.

• A secret, high-stakes technological race is underway between the US and adversarial nations like Russia and China to reverse-engineer recovered non-human technology.

• Recent declassifications include files, reports, and images, with a notable image from the 1972 Apollo mission showing a triangular craft near the moon.

• Credible individuals, including former intelligence officials and military pilots, have provided testimony about UAP encounters, crashes, and the recovery of non-human bodies.

• The scientific community is being kept in the dark, hindering progress in understanding this phenomenon, which is now being addressed through a more open declassification process.

• The advanced technology displayed by UAPs suggests capabilities far beyond current human understanding, potentially involving manipulation of spacetime.

Takeaway — The ongoing declassification of UAP evidence, supported by credible insider testimony, strongly suggests the reality of non-human intelligent life and advanced technology, prompting a critical re-evaluation of our understanding of the universe and humanity's place within it.