# Postpartum anxiety, our first family trip & what are non-parents doing between 4 and 8PM?!

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[00:03] Five, six, seven, eight. Welcome to Two
[00:06] Parents in a Podcast. Happy Monday, you
[00:08] guys. It's a very fun Monday. I feel
[00:11] like
[00:11] I have a bunch of riffers off the top.
[00:13] You want to riff away?
[00:14] Yeah.
[00:15] Okay. I have two, but you go.
[00:16] Okay, you go first, please.
[00:18] No. What's going on with the hat? Migz.
[00:20] Migas.
[00:20] Did you just buy that? I saw I I saw um
[00:25] a Substack
[00:27] uh what do we call it on the main page
[00:28] of Substack?
[00:29] I think they're called notes.
[00:30] Okay. I saw a note.
[00:32] Okay.
[00:32] And it was a picture of the Seinfeld
[00:35] group at the cafe having breakfast.
[00:38] And then it was a photo of the girls
[00:41] from Sex in the City having breakfast.
[00:43] And the commentary was we need to
[00:46] normalize having breakfast with friends
[00:49] before work. So this morning I had went
[00:53] to Cisco's which is I'd never been. I'd
[00:56] heard all about it. It's like a true
[00:58] Austin institution.
[01:00] Okay.
[01:01] Started in the 50s. Uh just an
[01:04] incredibly storied restaurant. Like you
[01:05] just go in and and the walls are lined
[01:08] with photos of of uh different different
[01:12] really cool characters that have eaten
[01:14] through the year. And and that's what I
[01:16] did this morning before recording. It
[01:17] was very cool. So I got some merch. I
[01:19] noticed you got a hat and a shirt.
[01:20] Yeah,
[01:21] that's adorable.
[01:22] Yeah. Cisco's
[01:23] One thing about Harrison is like he's
[01:25] gonna buy a shirt.
[01:26] I love restaurant merch though.
[01:28] I'm a big restaurant merch guy.
[01:30] You're going to buy a shirt. I love it.
[01:31] Migas is the popular dish. This is like
[01:33] their most famous dish there.
[01:34] And who in And how was it?
[01:37] It was It was great. It was phenomenal.
[01:39] And
[01:40] Okay.
[01:41] Yeah.
[01:41] Anything else to report? No, but I think
[01:45] Well, I think Fridays is inherently
[01:47] going to be a better day to do this than
[01:48] Monday.
[01:50] Um, but I think I want to get in a
[01:53] routine of Friday breakfast.
[01:55] I love it. I think you should do it. I
[01:56] think that one thing about you though is
[02:00] you will name like every Friday I want
[02:02] to go to breakfast if everyone if
[02:04] everyone No, no. If everyone can
[02:06] remember,
[02:06] I need to run the tapes back.
[02:08] Okay.
[02:08] And I need I was very careful with my
[02:10] words today. I I didn't commit to it. I
[02:13] said, I think I'd like to start doing
[02:16] breakfast on Fridays. Not every Friday.
[02:17] Why don't you do one breakfast on
[02:19] Friday?
[02:19] I did it today. I literally did it.
[02:21] Friday. It's Monday.
[02:22] I So I thought a great time. I want to
[02:24] push it now to Friday. I think
[02:26] if any I just want
[02:26] Problem is I like my Friday workouts.
[02:28] Exactly. Exactly. And we record on
[02:30] Fridays and like it's not going to
[02:31] happen. And I just want everyone to
[02:33] remember back four was it four weeks ago
[02:35] when Harrison tried to declare every
[02:37] Tuesday as Taco Tuesdays. You haven't
[02:39] even reme you can't even remember.
[02:42] And then there was the week that we
[02:44] every week we were going to start on
[02:45] Mondays making dinners at home. Like
[02:47] honey, we have two kids under two. We
[02:49] can't even make our bed in the morning.
[02:52] Much less. The only thing I've seen you
[02:54] do multiple weeks in a row. There was a
[02:56] phase where I think you did it three
[02:58] weeks in a row. You went and got
[02:59] barbecue on Fridays at noon.
[03:00] Oo, that was a very good routine.
[03:02] And see, do you know what you didn't do
[03:03] there? You didn't name it a routine. You
[03:06] just did it. So, on the topic of things
[03:09] that aren't routines,
[03:10] yes.
[03:11] Or it is an annual routine, did you know
[03:14] what July 1st is? Why the significant
[03:17] the significance of July 1st is?
[03:19] Princess Diana's birthday.
[03:21] Okay.
[03:21] A big one.
[03:22] Yeah.
[03:23] Um, Canada Day.
[03:24] Okay. So, you did know.
[03:25] Yeah.
[03:26] Also my birthday. Also my dad's
[03:28] birthday.
[03:29] Yes.
[03:30] So, I wasn't know I wasn't aware if you
[03:34] were aware that you co-hosted July 1st
[03:38] with Canada.
[03:39] I was aware. Yes.
[03:40] Okay.
[03:41] I just I'm not so sure like like Canada
[03:46] knows what July 4th is, right? I think
[03:48] if you interviewed everybody in Canada
[03:50] and you went up to me and said, "What's
[03:51] July 4th?" They'd be like, "America's
[03:53] birthday. Oh my god. America's birthday.
[03:55] Like we see the fireworks over the
[03:56] border. Oh my gosh."
[03:57] No, that is not the tone. It is. Yes. It
[03:59] is a It is It is 250, baby. They are
[04:03] 2550 TNT fireworks. Go out and get them,
[04:05] please.
[04:05] I'm just saying Canada is acutely aware
[04:07] of what July 4th is. I think if you
[04:10] walked around America and you were like,
[04:11] "Hey, what's July 1st?" People would be
[04:13] like, "Uh, the first day of July." I
[04:16] don't think anybody knows.
[04:17] That's what I literally just asked you
[04:18] if you knew what it was. That was
[04:20] I'm just saying I don't think Is that
[04:22] correct, though? Like growing up in
[04:23] Canada, everyone knew what July 4th was.
[04:26] 100%. I but I've staked this before and
[04:30] I'll say it again. There are a lot of
[04:32] things in Canada that became a lot
[04:34] bigger when Instagram profiled how
[04:37] amazing they were in the US.
[04:40] So like Canadian Thanksgiving had like a
[04:43] step up
[04:44] fact.
[04:45] Canada Day had a step up.
[04:47] What do you guys do? Do you do you do
[04:48] fireworks now?
[04:49] Is Canada Day your birthday? Is it is it
[04:52] Canada's birthday or
[04:53] I would assume so. I googled that.
[04:55] It is. Okay.
[04:56] Yeah. Okay.
[04:57] It's It's just as we do. It's just a
[05:00] lower key Fourth of July.
[05:02] How many years apart are we? Canada and
[05:05] America. We're 250.
[05:06] I'm probably like 249.
[05:08] Canada. Canada Day was 1867.
[05:12] Um, and isn't America 1776?
[05:16] I think so. Can you just give us the age
[05:18] of that? I'm going to butcher that math.
[05:21] Yeah. One sec.
[05:22] How old is Canada?
[05:25] turning 142.
[05:28] 159.
[05:29] 159.
[05:31] Okay. It's a lot of years. All right.
[05:34] Happy birthday, Canada. Almost. Um. All
[05:37] right. So,
[05:37] happy birthday. You almost.
[05:39] Yeah. Thank you. So, there's this video
[05:42] about a guy talking about like, "What do
[05:45] non-parents do between the hours of 4
[05:47] and 8?" And I feel like the most common
[05:49] thing I talk to our friends about is
[05:50] like, "What are you guys doing between 4
[05:52] and 8?" you know, like when you're off
[05:54] work, but your kids aren't asleep yet.
[05:56] And so I was thinking now, you know,
[05:58] obviously we're cooking dinner, we're
[06:00] going to the park, we're playing, we're
[06:01] going to swim or something like that.
[06:04] But if you didn't have kids and you went
[06:06] back to your pre-kid self and you had
[06:08] the hours between 4 to 8, knowing what
[06:10] you know now of like you could lose
[06:12] those hours, what would you do with
[06:13] them?
[06:16] Worked a lot later.
[06:18] Okay.
[06:19] Is one thing I did. I would do f
[06:22] workouts past five o'clock.
[06:25] You would go, you would move your gym
[06:26] time to evening.
[06:27] I did do workouts in the evening. And
[06:30] then uh
[06:32] No, no. What it's The question is not
[06:33] what did you used to do? The question is
[06:35] now having the perspective
[06:38] like if I told you, hey, you're just
[06:40] going to delete back to your old life,
[06:41] but you're going to remember this one.
[06:43] Like you now have your four to eight
[06:44] back. What are you going to do with it?
[06:46] You tell me.
[06:47] Well, I would I would organize a lot.
[06:49] Like I would have my house would be
[06:50] spotless cuz like right now the house is
[06:52] a mess and I'm like no but I if I had
[06:55] the time I would do it. I would
[06:56] definitely go to the gym at night. I
[06:58] agree. I think I would like take up
[07:00] cooking as a hobby.
[07:03] I think I
[07:05] I I would get so much more done if I had
[07:08] that time back. I don't know what I used
[07:09] to do from 4 to 8.
[07:13] Uh
[07:15] what is wrong with you? I'm thinking
[07:16] about you cooking and it just makes me
[07:19] laugh. So, we we went to Central Market,
[07:22] okay, on on the weekend and this is
[07:26] Alex's pallet. She just raw dogged a
[07:31] like they have this really great chicken
[07:33] sandwich at at Central Market at like
[07:36] the kind of cafe deli thing. And rather
[07:40] than getting the chicken sandwich, she
[07:41] just gets raw dog chicken breast on
[07:45] bread and then opens it up and eats like
[07:49] 10 15% of the bread and the chicken
[07:51] breast.
[07:52] And I ate my sweet potato fries. That's
[07:53] what I replaced the bread with.
[07:55] But like no sauce, no lettuce, onion,
[07:59] tomato, no cheese. Like you're just
[08:03] you're not a food person.
[08:05] No, there's eat to live or live to eat.
[08:07] Yeah. So, I got to call you on I don't
[08:10] think you would develop cooking as a
[08:11] hobby because like you don't care about
[08:14] food.
[08:15] I don't. I mean,
[08:15] I would love to cook grand meals every
[08:18] Sunday night or grand meals every Monday
[08:20] night, but the reason why we don't is
[08:23] because whenever I'm cooking, all you
[08:25] want is the food to just be done and
[08:27] ready. And you don't like appreciate,
[08:29] you know, a six-hour slow roast.
[08:32] Oh, am I stealing a joy from you?
[08:34] Will you deliver me so many other joys
[08:36] that it's totally fine?
[08:38] But do you want to start cooking at
[08:40] home?
[08:40] I would love Monday's big dinners.
[08:43] Tuesday taco Tuesday.
[08:46] Friday breakfast. Friday barbecue.
[08:50] Well, hey, I I don't want you to not
[08:53] cook because of me. I can eat on my my
[08:54] own meal.
[08:57] And you do eat your own meal. And then
[08:58] the point is just me and Bubb are eating
[09:00] the food.
[09:00] I know. last night for Harrison. He
[09:02] comes downstairs and he goes, "What are
[09:03] we going to do for dinner?" I'm like, "I
[09:04] ate. I've eaten. I'm full. Thank you."
[09:07] And I eat the I'm really on this big big
[09:09] big kick right now, though. Burgers and
[09:12] sweet potato fries.
[09:14] I'm making them. Yesterday, I made a
[09:16] sweet potato French fry egg and ground
[09:19] turkey bowl, though.
[09:20] I couldn't couldn't believe what you did
[09:22] to the sandwich.
[09:24] Yeah.
[09:24] I couldn't believe it.
[09:25] Yeah. Well, so you don't have much of a
[09:28] thought about what you do from 4 to 8.
[09:31] I would like take up a hobby. I don't
[09:33] know. Socialize.
[09:34] No, I didn't know this question was
[09:35] coming. So, I think I here's what I
[09:38] think I'd go back. I liked my old life.
[09:41] A lot of social stuff in the evenings,
[09:43] little lot of workouts,
[09:45] but just I feel like
[09:46] I'd work late. Like I would I would so
[09:49] often like bring my laptop to the bar,
[09:53] like to a restaurant bar, and like do
[09:56] more creative light work from like 6:00
[09:58] to 7:30. Yeah, that's a really good
[10:01] burger beer. Maybe an NA beer depending
[10:04] on the state I was in.
[10:06] Yep, I like it.
[10:07] Mindset.
[10:08] Okay. Um,
[10:10] should we talk about
[10:12] our Fourth of July travel plans?
[10:14] Yeah, we should definitely.
[10:15] Okay. I haven't been this excited for a
[10:18] trip in a long time.
[10:19] Same.
[10:20] We haven't been on a trip in a long
[10:21] time. Like, we just went to Oklahoma
[10:22] City, but that wasn't like a vacation.
[10:24] So, here here's how this all came out
[10:26] because we actually haven't talked about
[10:27] this before. So we wanted this July 1st
[10:31] week is a very very big week for us
[10:34] because obviously July 1st Canada Day
[10:37] and July 4th uh 250. But so because we
[10:42] have the double whammy of of Alex's
[10:44] birthday on the 1st and and the 4th of
[10:45] July, we wanted to be somewhere fun and
[10:47] awesome. But planning with kids,
[10:50] two kids,
[10:51] two kids and other couples very hard.
[10:54] So, we made the decision, let's pick
[10:56] somewhere that we're going to love being
[10:58] no matter what, and whatever happens
[11:01] happens. So, we book Aspen
[11:04] and
[11:05] we and the other thing was it had to be
[11:06] a direct flight.
[11:07] Yeah. Our core requirements was great
[11:10] town that's going to be lively for the
[11:12] fourth parade, all that somewhere that
[11:14] we love, good activities for kids, and
[11:17] direct flight.
[11:19] And we now wake up probably six, eight
[11:22] weeks after booking and four other
[11:25] couples are coming. So there's going to
[11:27] be 10 of us total.
[11:28] No, five other couples are coming.
[11:32] Four other couples are coming. We make
[11:34] five. Sorry.
[11:35] Four other couples are coming. Two other
[11:38] friends will be there as well. So some
[11:40] nights our peak dinners will be 12.
[11:42] Yep.
[11:44] And
[11:45] the neighbors are coming.
[11:46] It's like a group. It's like a big turn
[11:47] into a big friendship.
[11:49] They actually know them. My ne the
[11:50] neighbors are coming, so their kids are
[11:51] coming. And then Shannon, who I've
[11:52] talked about on here before, she's
[11:54] coming and her kids are coming. So,
[11:55] we're going to have like all the same
[11:56] age kids.
[11:56] It's going to be a big big big group.
[11:58] And I'm going to get them. I'm going to
[11:59] go after this and get them matching
[12:01] airport outfits.
[12:02] I think with kids all in, we're over 20.
[12:06] Are you guys staying together?
[12:08] No, cuz we booked an Airbnb cuz we're
[12:10] like, we need a kitchen. Like, we do not
[12:12] want to be jacking with like two hotel
[12:14] rooms. No. And so we're taking Diana,
[12:19] our night nurse. Why you pointing at me?
[12:21] Because I have I have a I have a before
[12:23] and an after parenting. Okay.
[12:26] Yeah.
[12:26] My appreciation for Airbnb
[12:30] has now reached a whole new level.
[12:32] Because in traveling,
[12:35] the thing that really didn't matter to
[12:38] us before, but matters to us now is a
[12:40] kitchen.
[12:40] Totally.
[12:41] And you're going to need two rooms.
[12:43] You're going to need a kitchen. the
[12:45] feasibility of that in hotels isn't
[12:46] really there. So Airbnb is just like on
[12:49] and the microwave is very helpful
[12:51] on the on Yeah. very very big Airbnb fan
[12:55] before. Yeah. Very big Airbnb fan.
[12:58] So anyways, we're going to Aspen. We're
[13:00] going with a bunch of families and we've
[13:02] never really like traveled with other
[13:03] kids. So I'm so excited.
[13:05] So excited. We're all on the same
[13:07] flight. It's going to be really fun.
[13:09] Oh, that's hilarious.
[13:10] Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be great. I
[13:13] can't I Jules I'm just I'm so excited.
[13:15] Are we allowed? Yeah, I was
[13:17] um have a mimosa on the flight.
[13:19] Heck no. Nothing sounds worse.
[13:24] Okay, great. Great answer.
[13:25] Are you going to have a beer?
[13:28] It's a 9:30 flight.
[13:31] This is my nightmare. Like a mimosa to
[13:33] like then you kind of get a little
[13:35] sleepy. Like you land, you got to get to
[13:37] the Airbnb, you got to like unpack, you
[13:39] got to get situated. No, I want to be
[13:41] like I I actually got up early this
[13:43] morning. Well, Bubba got up at 5:00, so
[13:45] then I tried to stay awake and then I
[13:46] fell back asleep. But like I was
[13:48] actually trying to make myself really
[13:49] tired, so I went to bed early tonight.
[13:51] Have you ever did do you take notice to
[13:56] how early people are drinking at the
[13:58] airport?
[13:59] Yes, I did recently.
[14:02] Like when when you have a 600 7 a.m.
[14:05] flight, there's people there that are
[14:06] that are drinking beer.
[14:09] No question. a lot of mimosas.
[14:11] I don't know what that is. Is it I don't
[14:14] think it's vacation mode. Maybe it's
[14:15] flight anxiety.
[14:18] Yeah, it the airport is a is a unique
[14:20] place when it comes to booze
[14:21] consumption.
[14:22] I wonder if there's a stat on that, but
[14:24] I do think that airports sell a ton of
[14:27] alcohol.
[14:30] I get it if you're like delayed.
[14:34] I'm just saying I see people just like
[14:36] outright 6:15.
[14:38] I
[14:39] 6:30 beers.
[14:40] I hate drinking in the morning.
[14:44] Like it it for me it ruins your day. I
[14:47] also have never
[14:48] What time are you going to start
[14:48] drinking? July 4th.
[14:51] I'm I don't really think about it. I
[14:53] don't know. Like late but way later in
[14:55] the afternoon.
[14:56] Okay. If we had a podcast and on the
[14:59] podcast we like talked about our plans
[15:01] and things. Okay.
[15:03] Yeah.
[15:03] And Okay. Now boom, we wake up. We're in
[15:05] Aspen. It's July 4th. Okay. We got July
[15:08] 4th Saturday.
[15:09] We got our friends America's 250th
[15:11] anniversary.
[15:13] I love a coffee.
[15:14] Okay. Walk me through the Walk me
[15:16] through your Fourth of July.
[15:17] Well, the parade I think is at noon in
[15:19] Aspen and it's called a classic parade
[15:20] which I'm very excited about. So, I
[15:21] would assume we get up. I think we're
[15:23] going to go to breakfast. I think we're
[15:24] going to go to the park. I think we're
[15:25] going to the girls will run around and
[15:27] then I think we'll make our way to the
[15:28] parade. Um and then I think we'll be
[15:31] there and then I assume we're going to
[15:32] go to lunch afterwards.
[15:33] Okay.
[15:34] And then we're going to have nap time.
[15:36] Okay. And then we're going to wake up
[15:38] and then I don't know they're not going
[15:40] to make it to fireworks and they don't
[15:41] even have fireworks that they have a
[15:42] laser show. So we'll do something else
[15:45] Fourth of July e.
[15:46] So when so when are you thinking the
[15:48] first cocktail is consumed in that whole
[15:50] she's not I'm not I I literally like I
[15:53] don't think of it this much whenever
[15:54] somebody whenever I'm just like okay
[15:56] I'll have a glass of wine or something.
[15:57] Okay. Did you forget about something
[15:58] that's happening at 11 a.m.?
[16:01] Yes. If it's a trick question I want to
[16:02] know up front.
[16:04] No there's no trick. There's also Well,
[16:06] you forgot part of our 11 a.m. plans,
[16:08] which I'm a little confused about if the
[16:10] if the parades at 12 because the parade
[16:12] is going to take priority on.
[16:13] Oh, there's a soccer game. Who is it?
[16:15] Canada's playing.
[16:17] Oh,
[16:17] yeah. Canada plays the winner of
[16:20] Morocco, Netherlands.
[16:22] Okay, so this is actually exciting. We
[16:24] watched the Canada game yesterday and
[16:26] Canada won. Okay, so if you don't
[16:28] understand what happened is, it doesn't
[16:29] matter what happened before this. Just
[16:31] know this now. If they lose, they're
[16:32] out. That's all that matters. So if
[16:34] they're looking forward in the World
[16:35] Cup, yes.
[16:36] Okay. It didn't used to be this way.
[16:37] It's that way now. And so Canada won and
[16:39] they advanced. They were the the they
[16:42] showed the coach's speech afterwards and
[16:43] he's like, "You guys are Canadian
[16:44] national heroes. No one has ever
[16:46] advanced past the first round." And they
[16:48] did it.
[16:48] A
[16:49] So it's really exciting.
[16:52] He was like, "You guys are heroes."
[16:53] So there's a really big difference in
[16:56] the Canadian and American mindset. Okay.
[16:59] You can tell me how this lands. like in
[17:02] Canada
[17:04] like we you become a hero for just
[17:08] getting to the round of 16 for being one
[17:10] of the 16 best
[17:12] means there's not a lot of competition
[17:14] versus in America I feel like you get
[17:17] rewarded
[17:19] like
[17:19] I mean you really got to do something
[17:20] cool
[17:21] you really got to like the if the US
[17:24] hockey team wasn't going to be
[17:26] celebrated for coming second in the
[17:28] Olympics it was gold or bust Right.
[17:31] That's the American mindset.
[17:32] We have high standards
[17:33] versus I feel very much when it comes to
[17:35] athletics, the Canadian mindset is like,
[17:38] did we put up a good effort?
[17:39] Everyone gets a trophy in Canada.
[17:41] No, it's No, no, it's a did we put up a
[17:44] good effort? So, like I feel like we put
[17:46] like because we put up a good effort.
[17:49] Did you guys try hard?
[17:51] And you did. Well, I posted a video
[17:53] talking about swim lessons and I and we
[17:55] took the trophies and I was like, I know
[17:57] not everybody gets a trophy. And my
[17:58] favorite comment was life is too short
[18:00] for everyone not to get a trophy. And I
[18:03] thought that is really nice.
[18:05] It's really nice. Do the Canadians get
[18:07] paid as much like their major sports
[18:10] people?
[18:11] No. So I one of the big stats that
[18:14] well hockey
[18:15] the Canadians love to point to in terms
[18:17] of our like how our general athletic
[18:20] performance trails uh the US is is our
[18:24] we don't have the funding for it. And so
[18:26] it's like even when you look at in the
[18:28] Olympics things like uh governments will
[18:31] pay their athletes per medal earned and
[18:34] we're just like yeah so much lower than
[18:38] um
[18:38] but I think that America's care
[18:40] Americans probably care more because
[18:41] they get the I keep saying sports people
[18:45] because they get paid so much because
[18:46] like I sit there and I'm like this
[18:47] person's making a bajillion dollars and
[18:49] they can't make every single free throw,
[18:51] right? a free throw just seems like
[18:53] something that those people should be
[18:54] able to make every single time. And I
[18:57] don't know. So that that's where I come
[18:59] from of like, yeah, win because we pay
[19:01] you so much money,
[19:01] right? Like you're making $50 million.
[19:04] You better put the ball in the hoop
[19:06] every time you shoot it. I agree, Jules.
[19:08] Yeah. Well, the US soccer team makes
[19:10] significantly less than uh like the
[19:15] players on Spain and
[19:17] Well, 100%. I mean, aren't aren't they
[19:19] the highest paid aren't the highest paid
[19:21] athletes in the world like the European
[19:25] soccer players?
[19:26] I would assume like Cristiano Ronaldo, I
[19:28] think his contract is the biggest or
[19:29] messes
[19:31] too.
[19:32] Yes. Yes. What was that?
[19:33] Probably from sponsorships as well. If
[19:36] you're the first and second most
[19:38] followed people on Instagram.
[19:39] Yeah, I would imagine one I'm sure you
[19:41] what do you sponsor him for a year for
[19:44] what number? $50 million. I don't know.
[19:46] My p
[19:48] Okay, I'm going to take it back.
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[21:02] Okay. Well, let since we're talking
[21:03] about sports, we have an athlete in the
[21:04] room with us today.
[21:06] Who?
[21:06] You. Mr. Closest to the pin. Oh,
[21:10] Harrison had a golf tournament
[21:12] on Friday, which you guys saw. He wore
[21:14] his golf attire.
[21:15] Well, they will see. This is getting
[21:17] very um
[21:20] we're breaking the fourth wall.
[21:21] Okay, let me just since we're rolling
[21:23] all the way through, I'm just going to
[21:24] explain this to you. We record every
[21:26] episode the morning of. Okay, with the
[21:28] exception of of this these next two
[21:31] because we're going to be out of town.
[21:32] We pre-recorded them last week. So,
[21:34] they're they're literally one week on
[21:36] ice. So, Wednesday, Friday,
[21:38] but people should look really look
[21:39] forward to Wednesday and Friday, but
[21:41] Wednesday was was we did like your guys'
[21:45] stories from the beginning. And like I
[21:47] think we were all learning things
[21:49] collectively in the room, so the
[21:51] audience is really going to learn.
[21:52] Yeah. Even if you've been here from the
[21:54] beginning, I was saying things Harrison
[21:55] didn't know and vice versa.
[21:56] Yeah.
[21:57] And then on Friday, we're going to drop
[21:59] a Q&A. So, the episodes are they're
[22:00] actually really really good. I'm glad
[22:01] you said that.
[22:02] Yes. and Harrison was golfing and talks
[22:05] about the golf tournament on Friday, but
[22:08] this is coming out today, Monday.
[22:09] Correct. Correct. So, tell us about your
[22:11] golf tournament.
[22:12] Well, the synopsis, I was very nervous
[22:13] cuz I haven't really been playing golf.
[22:15] You didn't want to be the weakest link
[22:16] cuz it was a tournament and it's a team
[22:18] tournament. So, you're like, "What if
[22:19] I'm the one that messes it up?" And he
[22:20] came home with a bunch of prizes in his
[22:22] hand and a smile on his face and he
[22:24] said, "I I did good. I won closest to
[22:27] the pin." I was like, "I'm so proud of
[22:29] you."
[22:30] Do I get these jewels? Yeah.
[22:33] It's actually middle finger.
[22:34] Oh, yeah. It's actually middle finger.
[22:35] Oh, really? I'm I like the pinkies.
[22:37] And apparently it's passive aggressive
[22:39] though.
[22:39] It feels very passive aggressive.
[22:41] Yeah, it feels like I didn't want to
[22:42] give you my two hands to clap, so I just
[22:44] gave you my fingers.
[22:44] Hydrs.
[22:47] Uh,
[22:47] tell the class.
[22:49] No, I
[22:51] The last time I talked about golf on the
[22:53] podcast, I think I lost five balls in
[22:55] the first two holes of the course I
[22:56] played,
[22:57] which is not
[22:57] for me on the course. When things go
[22:59] bad, they can go very bad. I was very
[23:01] nervous and I don't think I played as
[23:05] well as I did
[23:07] on Friday in
[23:09] years.
[23:11] Maybe ever. Like I was just focused. I
[23:14] was dialed in. I was making great
[23:15] contact. It went as good as it could
[23:17] have.
[23:17] Let me ask you this. When you do that,
[23:18] since you didn't know any of these
[23:20] people, at least if you did know me,
[23:21] don't know them well.
[23:22] Do you then say like, "I'm a pretty good
[23:24] golfer." Or do you let them know like
[23:25] this never happens to me? I was very
[23:27] clear on the ladder because when I got
[23:29] up there, I had to apologize in advance
[23:32] for my performance.
[23:34] Okay, good.
[23:35] Yeah, but I feel like it all starts off
[23:37] the first tea.
[23:38] It does cuz that's your confidence.
[23:39] I walked up first tee and just smashed a
[23:43] drive down the middle of the fairway.
[23:44] Did you guys use your ball? And I turned
[23:46] to them and I said, um, I'm glad that
[23:52] that drive went that way because
[23:53] everyone was very complimentary because
[23:56] now like when I whiff the next 17
[24:00] t-shots, you know, at least I'll have
[24:02] that to fall back on. So they they knew
[24:06] I stunk. But yeah, it was it went way
[24:09] better than I I could have thought.
[24:10] That is so good. It just is exciting
[24:12] when things have
[24:14] I can't believe you're smiling for me.
[24:16] I love other people's successes.
[24:18] Oh, thank you.
[24:19] That is such a great answer, Jules. And
[24:21] Jules does love other people's
[24:23] successes.
[24:23] Except mine,
[24:25] except Harrison since that's not even
[24:26] true at all. Um, okay. We're going to
[24:30] talk about
[24:32] We're gonna talk about postpartum
[24:33] anxiety and ISR. We can talk about them
[24:36] interchangeably actually because they
[24:38] have a bug bite. He has like 75 bug
[24:40] bites in one area.
[24:41] See what was happening.
[24:42] No, he looked like a dog though,
[24:43] scratching his back.
[24:44] I'm scratching. It's terrible. She won't
[24:46] scratch my bites
[24:48] because they're all So, so basically
[24:49] like a bug basically crawled in his
[24:51] shirt and like bit him like a lot of
[24:53] times from the cluster and he wants me
[24:55] to itch them, but I'm doing you a favor
[24:57] by not itching them because if I itch
[24:58] them then they'll itch.
[24:59] I would like you to itch them off.
[25:01] Do you guys have um one of those bug
[25:04] bite things? The Which one? We have all
[25:06] the bug bite tools. Yeah, the thing that
[25:08] like suctions it.
[25:09] I find that that really works.
[25:10] So, so do I. But it only works if you do
[25:12] it in the first 24 hours.
[25:13] Oh,
[25:14] and I didn't notice this until And these
[25:16] are like
[25:18] something like something more intense.
[25:20] Spider.
[25:20] Yeah,
[25:21] spider bite.
[25:21] I'm trying to pretend like it wasn't,
[25:23] but would a spider bite itch?
[25:25] Yeah.
[25:26] Jules,
[25:28] it's my nightmare. I hope it didn't
[25:29] happen at night in the bed.
[25:30] Yeah.
[25:32] I can't even. You know when it happened
[25:34] when
[25:35] oh my
[25:37] three nights ago when you were showering
[25:41] I went and just like laid on your side
[25:43] of the bed just really comfy
[25:45] and I felt a bunch of bites but I
[25:47] thought it was your heating pad.
[25:49] Okay. Don't ruin my day. Tonight I'll
[25:53] just like dream of spiders.
[25:56] I told you about the time my mom woke up
[25:59] with the scorpion.
[26:01] That's incredibly scary.
[26:03] Yeah.
[26:04] In her bed.
[26:05] Yes.
[26:07] I didn't know that scorpions like
[26:08] existed in the world.
[26:10] Me either, Jules. I love to pretend like
[26:11] they don't. It's horrible. Horrible.
[26:13] Horrible. Horrible. Speaking of Okay, so
[26:15] do you want to talk about ISR postpartum
[26:16] anxiety first? Because they they're
[26:19] anxiety.
[26:19] They're cousins of each other because
[26:21] the swimming is part of what gives me
[26:23] anxiety. So, the reason I wanted to talk
[26:24] about postpartum anxiety was because I
[26:27] saw a lot of my girlfriends this weekend
[26:30] and I was talking them to them a lot and
[26:32] they're my friends are so good at asking
[26:33] me like, "How are you? How are things
[26:35] going?" And I was talking to Shannon and
[26:36] I was like, "Uh, I just like have
[26:38] postpartum anxiety now." Like, I've been
[26:40] pretty anxious about things. And the
[26:43] moms, they kind of like laugh and
[26:45] they're like, "The craziest thing about
[26:46] postpartum anxiety the second time that
[26:48] you have a baby is is you have anxiety a
[26:51] lot, right? But it applies to two kids
[26:53] now. So when you had it the first time,
[26:54] it was very siloed to your one baby. But
[26:57] now you have it because postpartum
[26:58] anxiety is a very regular thing because
[27:00] your hormones are all out of whack. So
[27:02] now you have the anxiety, but you're
[27:04] worried about a 20-month-old and a
[27:06] two-month-old.
[27:07] And the 20-month-old can run around and
[27:10] jump off things and jump in the pool.
[27:11] And like that kind of anxiety is so
[27:14] different than the one that you have
[27:15] towards the baby. So this happened to me
[27:17] with Tate 2, which is my depression came
[27:20] on like 6 weeks delayed. Remember 6
[27:23] weeks postpartum is when it really hit.
[27:25] This anxietyy's come on the last like
[27:27] week, which would be around 8 n weeks.
[27:30] And um it's not nearly as bad as the
[27:35] depression was. It's actually quite
[27:37] manageable. It's just I had to name it.
[27:39] I had to tell Harrison like I've had
[27:41] really bad anxiety and it's it's things
[27:44] like we have
[27:46] this like rail in our house that Tate
[27:48] the other day started to climb up on and
[27:51] I was like Harrison and he like came
[27:53] upstairs and he's like yeah and I'm like
[27:55] look she's climbed up on it and he's
[27:56] like okay and I'm like what if she falls
[27:59] over the other side and then like hits
[28:01] something and then like falls down again
[28:02] and he's like what and I and it's just
[28:05] like those intrusive thoughts of this
[28:07] very unlikely thing happening and I was
[28:09] like sweating and I know that it's not
[28:13] realistic
[28:14] But you also can't help it and it's also
[28:17] just like part of a mom happening. So
[28:19] anyways, I just wanted to share that I
[28:21] am having that because I feel like I
[28:22] share a lot about my postpartum journey
[28:24] on here and online and like everything.
[28:26] And so if I didn't include the anxiety
[28:27] part, which is a big part of it right
[28:29] now for me, then that wasn't I was like
[28:31] why am I talking to everybody about it
[28:33] this weekend but I haven't talked about
[28:34] on the podcast yet. So I made a note to
[28:35] do so. Mhm.
[28:36] Um the other thing is I had a friend
[28:40] Michelle I was like man I'm having the
[28:42] postpartum anxiety and she was like oh
[28:44] just text me every time you have a
[28:45] thought.
[28:47] So the first time I did it because Tate
[28:49] was on the counter. She was sitting on
[28:51] the counter and Harrison was sitting
[28:53] right beside her and or he he was
[28:55] standing and they were eating together
[28:57] and I sent her a photo and I was like
[28:58] what if Tate falls off the counter? Odds
[29:00] are very slim Harrison is literally
[29:02] right there with her. Um, and I haven't
[29:06] texted her any of the other things, but
[29:08] it's funny because what what happened
[29:10] when she said, "Text me every time you
[29:12] have this." What it did was every time I
[29:14] have it, I think about texting her. And
[29:16] I kind of laughed to myself. I'm like,
[29:17] imagine typing this out to Michelle. It
[29:19] wouldn't even make sense. And I don't
[29:21] know what that is neurologically, but
[29:23] it's done something for my brain that
[29:25] almost takes me out of it and brings me
[29:26] back to reality
[29:28] where I think of physically picking up
[29:29] my phone and texting it to her.
[29:31] And that helps calm me down.
[29:33] Interesting.
[29:34] So, I do think like a good I don't I
[29:36] always say I don't have advice on here,
[29:37] but if somebody says they're going
[29:38] through that, one thing you could do as
[29:39] a friend is be like, "Hey, text me when
[29:41] it happens." And I do think it would
[29:42] help them because it's really helped me.
[29:44] Yeah.
[29:44] Interesting.
[29:46] Well, I think that collectively what
[29:49] you've said, it it just um it speaks to,
[29:52] you know, it's another reminder of just
[29:54] like how much you carry, you know, from
[29:59] starting in pregnancy to, you know, many
[30:03] many months following giving birth to
[30:06] the baby. and and
[30:09] um yeah, I'm just like in consistent awe
[30:12] of like how much
[30:14] you on how much you need to carry both
[30:17] physically and and emotionally. And I'm
[30:20] proud of you for identifying it and um
[30:25] and I feel like by you identifying it
[30:27] and communicating it, it's then puts you
[30:31] in the best position to um you know to
[30:35] operate your your day-to-day Allah with
[30:37] things like Michelle and your other
[30:39] friends or or you know allowing me to
[30:42] adapt my mindset to make sure I can be
[30:47] as supportive in any way possible. Also
[30:50] that is initially what
[30:54] it's been so it's been so nice though
[30:56] the second time like when somebody says
[30:58] how are you I I think with depression I
[31:01] had a lot of like guilt around it like I
[31:04] felt like if I said oh I'm sort of
[31:05] dealing with some depression number one
[31:06] I think I start crying but number two I
[31:08] felt like it took away from um
[31:13] loving the baby so much like you're like
[31:15] I'm in my newborn bliss like I'm
[31:17] obsessed with this baby but I'm also
[31:18] feeling feelings of depression, right?
[31:20] You feel them both at the same time. And
[31:21] I think it's always hard for people to
[31:23] admit they have depression because they
[31:24] feel like it it takes away from the love
[31:26] they have for the baby, which I know are
[31:28] not is not true.
[31:29] But what's nice the second time around
[31:31] is number one, it's not so bad. Okay.
[31:33] So, I'm coming at this from a place of
[31:34] privilege where my anxiety on a scale of
[31:36] 1 to 10 is maybe a four.
[31:37] Yeah.
[31:38] Maybe a four or a five.
[31:39] And how often does it come and go?
[31:41] It comes every day, multiple times a
[31:43] day, but it's not there consistently.
[31:44] Yeah. But me just being able to name it.
[31:48] Sometimes I even laugh at it. But it's
[31:50] like it's like every day I take one
[31:51] purse. Now it's like I take two and the
[31:52] second one's anxiety. And I know I'm not
[31:54] going to have carry that purse forever.
[31:56] But I'm just carrying it right now. And
[31:58] I know why I'm carrying it. I'm carrying
[31:59] it because I just had a baby. I'm
[32:00] carrying it because my hormones are out
[32:01] of whack. I'm carrying it cuz I'm
[32:03] breastfeeding. Like I understand why I
[32:05] have this bag. So I'm okay with it. And
[32:06] I and now I know it's not there forever,
[32:09] which I wasn't so sure of the first time
[32:10] around. So, it's like, okay, I'm
[32:14] carrying a little extra, but I can still
[32:15] walk out the door with my two purses. I
[32:17] can still go do everything I want to do
[32:18] with my two purses.
[32:19] Yeah.
[32:20] Which is uh it's I was at a very
[32:23] manageable place. And Shannon asked me,
[32:25] or was it Shannon? Somebody asked me,
[32:27] um, is there anything you want to like
[32:29] do different with this? Like, okay, so
[32:31] if you're telling me you have anxiety,
[32:32] is there anything you want to do
[32:33] different? I said, you know, we've added
[32:34] a third episode. We've added a Substack.
[32:37] Um, I don't want to change anything.
[32:39] Like, I like that we're doing that. I'm
[32:42] okay with this anxiety. I know how to
[32:44] handle it. I honestly welcome it because
[32:46] I can't make my hormones go away. And
[32:49] so, all I can do is just tell Harrison I
[32:51] have it and
[32:53] and that's it.
[32:54] Well, you're doing a phenomenal job as a
[32:56] mother, a partner, a friend.
[32:59] But I do think it can be crippling.
[33:01] Like, I do think for some people it can
[33:02] be crippling. what you just spoke to
[33:04] like every day more than once a day.
[33:06] Like that is no small
[33:09] um ordeal. Like that's not something to
[33:11] just like brush under under the rug. And
[33:13] that's kind of why it goes back to you
[33:16] know the bringing the attention to it
[33:19] because like you there you deal with so
[33:22] much through this entire process and and
[33:26] it's it's it's pretty unbelievable.
[33:29] Yeah, it is. It's pretty um
[33:33] it's pretty crazy stuff. And then last
[33:35] week I was also anxious because I felt
[33:36] like I was behind. Like I just felt like
[33:40] I think cuz we went to the funeral I was
[33:41] like oh my gosh I'm so underwater. And
[33:44] then typically Alex knows like girl just
[33:46] write it down. Get the list done. Move
[33:48] on with life. But what was happening to
[33:50] me last week and I I'm sure a lot of
[33:51] postpartum moms can identify with this.
[33:54] Little tasks feel really big. And so I
[33:58] was like, "How am I ever gonna get out
[34:00] from being underwater? I'm never going
[34:01] to be able to write the subsecond." It's
[34:02] like, "Just start chipping away at it,
[34:04] girl. It's you can do it." And then you
[34:06] do it and it's and it's all good. Okay.
[34:09] So, ISR vers swim lesson. So, our swim
[34:12] lessons concluded, which we called it
[34:14] actually the swim season. So, our season
[34:16] is over. And so, we had a really fun
[34:19] season where they were kind of like
[34:20] splashing and like floating and jumping
[34:22] in the pool. And you know, things need
[34:25] to get a lot more serious if we're going
[34:26] to have a pool oursself.
[34:28] Yeah. This is very much an introductory
[34:30] to water session, not swim lessons.
[34:32] Correct.
[34:32] I need to re like I I I don't think that
[34:35] we can sit there as parents and say that
[34:37] they just did swim lessons. As much fun
[34:39] as the kids had and as much fun as the
[34:41] parents had on Thursdays, that was not
[34:44] swim lessons.
[34:44] So, what was your ISR learnings? Because
[34:46] you said you had some.
[34:50] No, I I would like I want to better
[34:53] understand ISR versus structured swim
[34:56] lessons. Okay. So, it's on my it's on my
[35:00] to-do list because, you know, I think
[35:03] that what I didn't what I want to just
[35:06] thoroughly understand is,
[35:10] you know, I think the the the research
[35:13] is very clear that swim lessons
[35:17] uh drastically
[35:19] improve safety around poles,
[35:22] right? There's no ifs, ands, or buts
[35:24] around that. The question is just how
[35:26] much safer is ISR versus structured swim
[35:30] lessons and that's what I want to
[35:32] understand because what where my concern
[35:35] with ISR is is it looks very traumatic.
[35:38] So if people don't know what ISR is,
[35:40] it's like they literally throw your baby
[35:42] into the pool and your baby basically
[35:46] learns through its natural survival
[35:48] instincts. It appears
[35:49] to flip
[35:50] to flip and turn on their back
[35:52] and float. my I I really fear that it
[35:56] will have negative, you know, near-term
[35:59] consequences on how they their
[36:01] excitement towards the water and versus
[36:05] doing a more structured swim lesson,
[36:07] which what we did was not where you
[36:10] really like it may it won't be as fun as
[36:12] them singing songs in the pool, but
[36:15] they'll learn how to swim and they'll
[36:16] learn how to swim in a less traumatic
[36:18] way. And so as long as there's no clear
[36:21] difference in um in the safety
[36:26] component between the two outcome, thank
[36:28] you.
[36:29] Like I am very much leaning towards
[36:31] structured swim lessons. I was talking
[36:33] to a parent at a birthday party the
[36:34] other day and and they did the
[36:36] structured swim lessons and um and and
[36:40] that I feel like is how we're going to
[36:42] we're going to adapt. But I also I want
[36:44] to see I want to see the studies on
[36:46] this. Well, I asked Substack and I and
[36:49] nobody that responded had like
[36:51] researchbased answers, but they were
[36:52] like, "Okay, here's my experience or
[36:54] here's what I've heard about it." And
[36:56] basically, it was like, "Yeah, it can
[36:58] suck while you're watching it, but it it
[37:00] is so beneficial for them." And so, I
[37:03] agree. If the if we can get to the same
[37:05] outcome without it sucking, that's ideal
[37:08] for me.
[37:10] Being traumatizing like I'm all Listen,
[37:12] let me say this too, though. If parents
[37:14] are doing ISR, I applaud you because
[37:17] you're what you're doing ultimately is
[37:19] trying to make your kid in the safest uh
[37:22] place possible when it comes to pool and
[37:23] water safety. So, like my hats off to
[37:26] you because I think that's incredible
[37:27] and it's six weeks straight. It's hard
[37:29] to get to. It's hard to watch. Like
[37:30] you're not doing it for fun. So, I
[37:32] really commend to parents that do it.
[37:34] Yeah.
[37:34] Um I I just think you're coming at it
[37:37] from a is there a different way to do it
[37:39] approach. Like I'm very pro ISR because
[37:42] I love parents that are trying to that
[37:44] that are for water safety.
[37:46] Yeah, I'm very pro water safety as well.
[37:47] It's just what is what is the best what
[37:50] what's the most balanced approach?
[37:51] Yeah, he should Harrison's just looking
[37:53] at it from a what do we want to do with
[37:55] our kid point, but I just want to say
[37:56] like those that are doing ISR, I think
[37:58] it's awesome
[37:59] in in my brain like ISR is almost the
[38:02] equivalent to like cry it out method.
[38:05] Correct, Jules. And then like there's
[38:07] some parallel here. Hey Jules,
[38:10] thank you. Snaps for Jules in a
[38:12] non-passy way. Yeah, you like that word
[38:14] passy.
[38:14] Yep, we all got it honey. Thank you for
[38:16] that.
[38:17] But like I don't know, you guys probably
[38:18] know the other relations, but like ISR
[38:20] to me equals cried out and then there's
[38:22] some ferour method is apparently there's
[38:25] a new Harrison
[38:27] with a pillow, you dork. Apparently
[38:29] there's a new someone sent it. I I'll
[38:32] have to go back and find it, but there's
[38:34] like some new thing called
[38:36] X and they're like that's just ISR, but
[38:39] they rebranded it because parents are
[38:41] afraid of ISR. Ah,
[38:42] so like there there's also I think some
[38:44] element of you know big pool big water
[38:48] like branding these things in different
[38:51] ways and
[38:52] probably taking advantage of parents in
[38:54] different ways. So like I don't know it
[38:55] is really interesting and Harrison
[38:57] should write his Substack article
[39:00] on the findings.
[39:02] Yeah, I think you should definitely
[39:03] I already labeled it.
[39:04] Did you see my title?
[39:05] I did. Do you want to tell us your
[39:07] title?
[39:08] It's called It's the Great Swim Debate.
[39:11] Why we And then it'll say what we chose
[39:14] to do over what we chose not to do.
[39:16] Well, why we chose ISR over not or why
[39:18] we chose not to do ISR. Okay. Yeah.
[39:20] Great.
[39:21] Um I Yeah. So, I don't know. Definitely
[39:24] tell us in the comments your experience
[39:27] with it. But ultimately, the goal is
[39:30] safety. That's that's what every pair I
[39:32] mean, it's just have this on your radar,
[39:34] right? But we'll see what we decide to
[39:36] do. The other thing is from a timeline
[39:38] perspective, we want Rocky to be able to
[39:41] do it, too. And they can start it at six
[39:43] months.
[39:43] Rocky Bears.
[39:44] Rocky Bears. So, we're probably going to
[39:46] do this. When's Rocky six months?
[39:49] September. October. October. and our
[39:52] pool will be done. So, we've got a bit
[39:55] Yeah, I'm like minorly stressed because
[40:00] um they've like started a bunch of new
[40:02] work on the yard today and like I'm not
[40:04] there and they're texting saying that
[40:06] they're there and they're doing like the
[40:08] leveling and
[40:09] I saw them. I said hello to them.
[40:11] But yes, water safety very very
[40:13] important.
[40:14] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Um
[40:17] pop culture, some pop culture news. A
[40:20] Swedish prime minister brought her baby
[40:22] what?
[40:23] Two announcements.
[40:24] Okay. Harrison's raised his hand.
[40:26] Okay. First is this is the first break
[40:29] that I would like to take but I'm not
[40:30] taking for the bathroom.
[40:32] I also have to pee so it's interesting.
[40:34] Okay. Thank you. We can have a hold at
[40:36] battle. The second is I have a new show
[40:39] before we get into this that I need to
[40:41] share.
[40:42] Yeah. Do share with the class.
[40:43] That I absolutely dummyed. I binge
[40:46] watched as the kids say.
[40:49] Okay. Okay.
[40:49] It's called I Will Find You on Netflix.
[40:51] Oh, I haven't heard of it.
[40:53] It is new. It is good. It is a worse
[40:56] version of that HBO show
[40:59] All Her Fault.
[41:00] All Her Fault. It's a worse version of
[41:01] All Her Fault.
[41:03] It's like a cheap It's like the Netflix
[41:05] version of All Her Fault. Like, you know
[41:07] how Netflix is just like generally a lot
[41:09] like lighter
[41:10] in nature, more like actionheavy.
[41:13] The the plots are a little less
[41:17] deep and complex.
[41:18] Yes. versus the HBO plots.
[41:20] Yes.
[41:20] Yeah, that's how I would describe the
[41:22] two of them.
[41:24] Oh, it's based on a book.
[41:26] Oh,
[41:27] based on a book.
[41:29] Book club is reading
[41:30] about Hawking romance.
[41:33] We are reading. Hold on. Let me just We
[41:35] just said Okay. Fameick. Famestick.
[41:39] Famestick. I need to order it.
[41:41] Famestick by Lena Dunham.
[41:44] Is that her book?
[41:46] Oh,
[41:48] that is a name that I have not heard in
[41:52] a very long time.
[41:53] The Lena Dunham book. I've been talking
[41:55] about this,
[41:56] but when I search Oh, nope. I spelled
[41:58] fame wrong.
[41:59] What's it about?
[42:00] Yeah, it's Famestick. A memoir. Lena
[42:02] Dunham. About her struggles with chronic
[42:04] illness, fame, and ambition while
[42:06] creating girls.
[42:07] But they're both But everyone is saying
[42:09] fame stick.
[42:10] But why are they saying fame stick?
[42:12] That's not a book.
[42:13] Does fame is fame stick a book?
[42:14] It's not a book. for sure.
[42:16] I'm positive
[42:17] when I search famest stick only fame
[42:20] sick comes up.
[42:22] Okay. Okay. So, fame stick we're
[42:24] reading. I I heard it was good. Um Okay.
[42:27] So, that's what we're going to read. So,
[42:29] all right. Now, I'm going to get back to
[42:30] the pop culture. So, watch the show.
[42:32] Harrison loved it. Sorry. I was just
[42:35] going to say a memoir for a book club is
[42:37] interesting.
[42:40] I agree.
[42:41] Well, when you don't talk about the book
[42:42] at book club, it really doesn't matter
[42:44] what you're talk about the book. I'm
[42:46] excited to read it. I think we have 11
[42:48] days for this one though, so we really
[42:49] got to
[42:49] Did you know, Jules, of the of the eight
[42:53] people at book club?
[42:55] Okay,
[42:55] there's eight there, right?
[42:56] There was six there for eight in it.
[42:58] Of the six there, only three of them
[43:00] read the book.
[43:01] Three of them didn't even order the
[43:02] book.
[43:03] No, four of them. Four of us read the
[43:04] book.
[43:04] Oh my god, I made that up. What? Two of
[43:07] What? That was a That was like a thing
[43:09] that
[43:10] No, no, no. They didn't finish it. Yeah.
[43:13] So, we had to we had to explain the
[43:15] ending to them.
[43:15] That was a That was a bad That was a dad
[43:17] joke I was making. I was making a dad
[43:19] joke.
[43:21] They They There's two of them busy.
[43:24] They're busy moms.
[43:25] Yeah.
[43:26] But then let's call it a girl.
[43:28] Then busy moms deserve a girl's night
[43:29] out.
[43:31] They read like they read like 80% of the
[43:32] book. They just didn't finish it.
[43:36] Also,
[43:37] I just feel like I feel like this is one
[43:39] of those things that we keep learning
[43:40] more information and today it's 80% of
[43:42] the book and now I'm going to ask and
[43:44] it's going to be like well one of them
[43:45] the book was delayed because it showed
[43:47] up and they couldn't find it. So they
[43:49] were 80% committed to
[43:51] ask tomorrow how much of the book did
[43:53] you read? She was one of the ones that
[43:54] didn't finish it but she she knew a lot
[43:56] so she got pretty far.
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[45:11] Okay. Swedish prime minister brought her
[45:13] baby to an EU meeting in historic first
[45:16] in a in a historic first for the EU. So
[45:19] this is the clip. Basically there's this
[45:22] mom. She's 3 months postpartum. She is a
[45:24] Swedish prime minister and she brings
[45:26] her baby in a baby carrier to a meeting.
[45:28] Okay. And it poses the question in the
[45:32] comments, should this be allowed? Like
[45:34] where's the line in professionalism,
[45:36] right? Like when a woman has a baby,
[45:38] should she have to pick between work and
[45:40] being a mom? Um, and should work adapt
[45:43] to the parents or should parents adapt
[45:45] to work?
[45:46] I think that that
[45:49] like one thing that most working parents
[45:53] have dealt with, if not all, is like
[45:54] there's been a meeting where you need to
[45:57] bring your kid to it. Mhm.
[45:59] Um, you know, that happened on more than
[46:03] one occasion with Tate.
[46:05] When they're so young, it's very
[46:08] non-disruptive.
[46:10] So, I think that we want to be very just
[46:11] like understanding that this dynamic
[46:14] occurs,
[46:15] but we also like Yeah, I think that that
[46:20] it's going to happen. Like that's just
[46:22] part of life.
[46:23] Yeah, I think it's going to happen. make
[46:25] sure you I think every parent should
[46:27] just like make sure they're doing their
[46:28] best that um it's as it's as least
[46:34] disruptive as it can as possible.
[46:36] Yeah, I think I think you have a good
[46:37] point here and I would call it apply
[46:38] common sense to it. So yeah, basically
[46:40] if you apply common sense, you say,
[46:42] okay, she's probably three months
[46:43] postpartum, maybe her postpartum leave
[46:45] is 6 months, but this was a very
[46:47] important meeting. So she strapped the
[46:48] baby on. She said, I'm bringing the baby
[46:50] to work like I'm breastfeeding the baby.
[46:52] We're going. So they come to the
[46:53] meeting, right? Do you bring your your
[46:55] baby to work every single day to the
[46:57] office? Of course not. That would be so
[46:58] disruptive and that's not conducive to
[47:01] like a working atmosphere. You know,
[47:04] you're going to have to figure something
[47:05] else out. What that looks like, I don't
[47:06] know, a longer maternity leave. Do you
[47:08] get help? I I don't know what it is. Do
[47:09] your own journey. But like we can't
[47:11] totally make
[47:13] you can't take the baby from 8 to 5 to
[47:15] work.
[47:16] Totally.
[47:17] I I think we all know that. But I do
[47:18] think this is really honestly I think
[47:20] it's badass to strap the baby to you and
[47:22] go. And like
[47:24] I think that it would be cool if a dad
[47:26] did that too if he's like, "Hey, my
[47:27] wife's at home. You know, she's got
[47:29] she's got our other kids at home. I
[47:30] brought the baby to work today." Like,
[47:32] "Okay, cool." Because like parents are
[47:33] just doing the best they can. Y.
[47:34] So, I'm very here for that. But I do
[47:36] think this is an iconic moment.
[47:37] Yeah. So, I think the the way I'm going
[47:40] to zag it in to more realistic
[47:44] day-to-day life is like there's going to
[47:46] be times that
[47:49] parents need to bring their kids to work
[47:51] because something happens and we got to
[47:52] be understanding of that.
[47:54] I also think it's I also
[47:55] but we got to use common sense as you
[47:57] said.
[47:57] Yeah. Like I mean apply common sense to
[47:59] it. But I do also think like she's three
[48:01] months postpartum. I think it's
[48:03] completely fine that she still wants to
[48:05] be baby wearing.
[48:07] She's like, I'll go to the meeting, but
[48:08] I'm bringing the baby and my partner
[48:10] will come to I'm I'm good with all that.
[48:12] And I think as parents, we also have a
[48:14] very good feel for like our baby's
[48:18] potential impact on a meeting. Like
[48:21] correct,
[48:21] some children are, you know,
[48:25] inherently they're going to cry a lot
[48:27] less than others. And
[48:29] we plan accordingly.
[48:31] No question. Um, but I I think it's
[48:33] quite cool that she did it. Also, what I
[48:36] forgot to tell you about Aspen earlier
[48:37] was in the comments, we had some
[48:39] developmentally appropriate games for a
[48:40] two-year-old on an iPad. I think we
[48:43] should download one. So, just so you
[48:45] guys know, there's PockPac monosur style
[48:47] play. Sago Sega Mini World Imaginative
[48:51] Play to Boa Jr. Animals Gardening
[48:54] Cooking Baby Piano. Oh, she would love
[48:58] can explore the sounds and music. She'll
[49:00] be bilaring on the plane which would be
[49:02] really fun. Drawing for kids by Benny
[49:05] games which is tracing and coloring
[49:07] motor skills and duck duck moose moose
[49:09] math early intro to shapes and counting.
[49:11] Okay 100% think we should download
[49:13] those. I have a question for the
[49:14] audience.
[49:15] What?
[49:15] And this is both for the parents and the
[49:18] non-parents. Okay. This is for everyone.
[49:20] Is it going to be airplane etiquette? I
[49:21] can feel
[49:21] this is an airplane etiquette question.
[49:23] All right.
[49:24] Okay. I found that putting headphones on
[49:28] toddlers can be very hard. Okay,
[49:31] you cannot play it out loud. They're
[49:32] very clear on that.
[49:33] So, here's the question. If you are
[49:35] sitting beside a toddler, would you
[49:38] rather number one them listen to the
[49:42] iPad on loud? So, you're listening to
[49:46] some children's show, or number two,
[49:50] it's not on loud, but then the kid is is
[49:55] bored and crying and yelling during the
[49:58] flight.
[50:00] What would you rather, option A or
[50:01] option B?
[50:02] I'm picking option A because I'm going
[50:04] to have my own noise cancelling
[50:05] headphones, so I don't really care if
[50:06] their iPad's on loud.
[50:08] Yeah, I don't really care, but I think I
[50:10] don't know if you you can't. They make
[50:12] an announcement.
[50:12] You can't do that. Yeah,
[50:14] but and that's what I'm saying is I
[50:16] think the rule is you're not allowed to.
[50:17] But is is option A not better?
[50:21] The rule is there. Yeah, you you must
[50:23] have headphones when listening to your
[50:24] device, which is why airlines now hand
[50:26] them out.
[50:27] Mhm.
[50:27] Um and they have them available.
[50:28] And the question is, should that be
[50:30] except if you're a child under three
[50:32] years?
[50:32] No. Imagine like I I think you're
[50:35] looking at this as a one-off scenario
[50:37] like seat you know row 19 that one kid
[50:40] and that one adult but think about if
[50:41] row 11 19 21 they're all listening to
[50:44] their iPads on loud it's chaos
[50:45] it's best efforts it's like bringing
[50:47] your baby to a meeting like you try to
[50:49] have them wear the headphones but if
[50:51] they don't wear the headphones should we
[50:53] normalize playing it on loud it's a
[50:55] question
[50:55] I I agree I just I do think that would
[50:57] end very poorly because unfortunately
[50:59] what happens with airplane etiquette We
[51:02] we see is you start you give people an
[51:04] inch on these airplanes, they take a
[51:06] mile.
[51:06] Yeah.
[51:07] I I see we see it time and time again. I
[51:09] mean, you see it when they say, "Please
[51:10] let the people that have a connecting
[51:12] flight get off first." It's always a
[51:13] fight.
[51:14] Yeah.
[51:16] So, it's just
[51:17] I I will say that that when they ask the
[51:20] connecting people to get off, I think we
[51:22] generally do a pretty good job at that.
[51:24] Well, I when if I'm getting off with
[51:25] them, I start talking about my
[51:26] connection time. I just want to let
[51:28] everyone know
[51:30] I do have a connection.
[51:32] It is soon.
[51:34] Yeah.
[51:35] We're all in this together.
[51:36] Yeah.
[51:38] Um All right. Harrison has some morning
[51:41] brew stuff.
[51:43] So, the first thing that you've you've
[51:45] put in here, which I think is very
[51:46] interesting, is a new Bank of America
[51:50] survey shows that 51% of people aged 18
[51:54] to 29 spent zero dollars on dates this
[51:57] year,
[52:00] which is crazy. Suggesting that Gen Z
[52:02] might be pulling back on whining and
[52:04] dining to save money. You hate to hear
[52:07] it. What are they buying if they're not
[52:08] whining and dining? I think whining and
[52:10] dining is one of the more fun things in
[52:13] life.
[52:13] Like if you were to have told me this
[52:15] study is like 18 to 24 or 18 to 25, I
[52:20] could understand. I'm surprised that
[52:22] it's up to 29,
[52:25] right? Because what are you spending
[52:26] your money on? Maybe nothing. And you're
[52:28] and you're just saving a lot. I don't
[52:30] know.
[52:30] No, I think it speaks to date. It's I I
[52:32] think
[52:32] Yeah, I was going to say I don't think
[52:34] it's about saving money.
[52:35] No, it's about dating. Thank you. I to
[52:37] me this is about dating culture. I think
[52:39] that like that
[52:42] you know you look at what's happened
[52:44] with fertility rates and how fertility
[52:46] rates have completely um declined and
[52:50] you know our our generation
[52:52] you know while our generation is having
[52:55] significantly less kids than generations
[52:57] prior. And obviously one component of
[53:00] that is is struggles with getting
[53:03] pregnant. But a also a very very large
[53:05] driver of that is people just not
[53:07] wanting to have kids,
[53:09] right?
[53:09] Dinks as as
[53:11] what is that
[53:12] we call them? Dual income, no kids.
[53:13] Yes. Yes. Dual income, no kids.
[53:14] I feel like this ties into that and
[53:17] priorities are are being placed
[53:19] elsewhere. I I'm I'm quite surprised
[53:21] though and yeah, I don't know.
[53:23] Uh
[53:24] I thought this was an interesting stat.
[53:25] I don't know if I had anything to share
[53:26] beyond that.
[53:27] Well, let me say this. Finding love
[53:29] isn't cheap. So, in February, um, the
[53:31] [ __ ] Financial Group reported that the
[53:33] average cost of a date, which includes
[53:34] gas, food, and grooming, hit what price?
[53:37] What do you think the average price of a
[53:39] date was?
[53:39] $148.
[53:40] Jules,
[53:42] I can't guess cuz I saw it.
[53:44] $189. I mean, that's expensive. You
[53:46] know, almost $200 for a date. And you
[53:49] think about it, some people are going
[53:50] some people can go on two two dates a
[53:53] week. I don't know. But on that number,
[53:54] you're probably going on one two a
[53:56] month. I would be curious to hear like
[53:58] when people were in the prime of dating,
[54:00] how many dates you going on? You know,
[54:02] like what's your average?
[54:04] Do you try to do one a week? You try to
[54:06] do three a month?
[54:09] I think most girls that I know do like
[54:11] one a week.
[54:12] One a week
[54:12] if they're if they're like on the hunt.
[54:14] They're like dating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[54:16] Yeah. Yeah. Um that is up 12.5% from
[54:19] last year.
[54:21] Wow. Which laps the 2.7 inflation rate
[54:24] over the same period. I wonder why.
[54:26] Wonder why the price of a date went up
[54:28] so much. Okay, so the next stat you've
[54:30] given us
[54:32] is in 2019 $2,500 bought you a house for
[54:37] $500,000. I'm using round numbers here.
[54:39] Okay.
[54:40] Yep.
[54:41] Today you take $2,500 that will buy you
[54:43] a house for 385 $385,000.
[54:47] So we're down around $130,000.
[54:52] Why is that?
[54:54] Well, they're saying mortgage rates.
[54:58] Did you copy and paste the stat I I
[55:02] shared or did you did you re-ransate it?
[55:04] I redid it. I didn't understand your
[55:06] stat.
[55:07] Okay.
[55:08] When you did that, there was there was
[55:10] there was some other numbers in there.
[55:12] It didn't make any sense to me.
[55:13] Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm a little
[55:15] disappointed at myself for sharing these
[55:18] two statistics without a take on either
[55:21] because Yeah. this um obviously mortgage
[55:24] rates are massive driver of it but Wall
[55:26] Street Journal just put out a uh a study
[55:30] that showed the increased cost of
[55:32] carrying a home outside of mortgage
[55:34] rate. So, outside of mortgage rates, so
[55:36] looking at things like insurance rates,
[55:39] uh, general maintenance and repair and
[55:41] how much those had all gone up. And, um,
[55:45] yeah, I I wish that I had something to
[55:47] say here other than I I thought the
[55:49] statistics were were interesting and it
[55:52] it, you know, speaks to more, you know,
[55:54] both pain being put on the consumer as
[55:56] well as from a financial perspective as
[55:59] well as um, the change in affordability
[56:03] around home ownership. Okay. Well,
[56:05] having no take on it, we're going to
[56:07] we're going to move.
[56:08] I was just sorry. I was just looking for
[56:10] the original stat, but in there I found
[56:12] we you guys didn't talk about the car
[56:14] getting booted.
[56:15] Oh,
[56:17] okay. This is big. This is big. Thank
[56:19] you, Jules. Thank you. See, this is the
[56:21] problem with me not being able to go on
[56:23] my phone.
[56:24] Honey, if you went on your phone, you
[56:25] would have never come up from it and
[56:26] said the car got booted.
[56:27] I know. You're right. We've had a much a
[56:30] very pleasant episode with
[56:32] limited jewels interference.
[56:34] Do you two have something to talk about
[56:36] for the next 40
[56:37] I have to pee too and I'm also holding
[56:39] it.
[56:40] Okay. So, are we going to hold through?
[56:43] I There's two bathrooms. Why don't you
[56:46] guys both get up?
[56:47] No, we're making no cuts. I will stay
[56:50] here and talk and then you can go.
[56:52] Okay. How much longer do you think we
[56:53] have?
[56:54] That's what we're not going to do on
[56:56] here.
[56:56] Okay. So, we're going to keep going.
[56:58] We're gonna keep going. All right. So, I
[57:01] got booted. Okay. So,
[57:02] the car got booted.
[57:04] The car got booted and basically I
[57:07] parked. I was meeting a friend. I when I
[57:11] parked, I was on the phone. I like
[57:13] planned on uh on paying for parking
[57:18] because it felt like a very ticket heavy
[57:20] situation.
[57:21] But because I was on a call, it just by
[57:24] the time I got to the restaurant, it
[57:25] slipped my mind. I was in the restaurant
[57:27] for no more than an hour and a half. I
[57:29] come out,
[57:31] there's a boot and a sticker on. And I
[57:34] want to put the sticker up, okay? Cuz
[57:37] this company, I'm going to pull up the
[57:38] company now cuz I feel like what
[57:42] happened to me was very, very, very
[57:44] predatory, okay? It's called Admiral
[57:47] Enforcement Immobilization Notice, and I
[57:51] had to pay $1844.
[57:55] I actually believe it was 198 all in
[57:57] with fees to have this boot removed for
[58:00] an hour and a half of parking.
[58:02] Now, the most demoralizing part of the
[58:05] situation is they send you a code to
[58:07] take the boot off of the tire and you
[58:12] have to go then put the boot
[58:15] around like this holder only for them to
[58:18] go and like put that boot on someone
[58:19] else. Like I want it so bad just to like
[58:22] take that boot off and throw it and hide
[58:24] it, but then they're like, "We're going
[58:26] to stick you with another massive fine
[58:28] if you don't return the boot."
[58:29] If you don't return the boot.
[58:30] So you get a code and you punch the code
[58:32] into the boot. Yeah.
[58:33] And you take it off yourself.
[58:35] Yes. So I unbooted the car. I put it
[58:38] back. It just felt predatory like to
[58:40] charge, you know, around $200. Charge
[58:43] $200 for like not paying for a parking
[58:47] spot for an hourish. Wait, so is this
[58:50] illegal to do?
[58:52] Well, part of why I wanted to talk about
[58:53] it is like I wanted to hear any listener
[58:57] feedback on this company because this
[58:58] company feels like very very very bad
[59:02] news and I don't like to talk negatively
[59:04] about companies and cuz I generally feel
[59:08] like people are just doing their best.
[59:10] But to me, these guys felt like they
[59:13] crossed the line on on on being
[59:15] predatory towards towards consumers. Is
[59:18] there a sign that's like we will boot
[59:20] you if you park here?
[59:22] Yeah, I would love to like drive some
[59:24] accountability to to this company if I
[59:26] could like what can I do as a customer
[59:29] to like go and and fight this? Do is
[59:32] there any grounds?
[59:33] Well, my so my question is is this
[59:36] legal? Are they hired by somebody by the
[59:38] whoever owns the parking lot to just be
[59:40] like boot them and then to but they're
[59:42] making bank.
[59:43] Yeah. If they're making $185 and you
[59:47] were parked there for an hour and a half
[59:48] and like you can't drive.
[59:50] And this was just off Rainy Street so
[59:52] people know.
[59:53] I mean that's crazy.
[59:54] Maybe we should call. Yeah, this is can
[59:56] be a beware of parking in this parking
[59:58] lot. I'm going to I'm going to pull up
[01:00:00] the parking lot. Would that be helpful
[01:00:01] for people?
[01:00:02] Yeah, I think so.
[01:00:02] Okay.
[01:00:05] Um it was
[01:00:08] the parking lot just off of Rainy and
[01:00:11] Driscoll Street. It looks like it may be
[01:00:14] called
[01:00:16] 382 parking.
[01:00:18] There you go.
[01:00:19] Yeah. And so, but so beware if you're
[01:00:21] parking there.
[01:00:23] You know, I'm I'm I'm all good to pay a
[01:00:25] ticket. I'm all good to pay a ticket if
[01:00:27] I forget to pay for parking. This felt
[01:00:30] too far and the bill felt too much.
[01:00:32] So, how do they do that though? Because
[01:00:34] um most parking is ran. Do you get is
[01:00:37] your ticket from the cops? No, that's
[01:00:40] like a private parking lot and then they
[01:00:42] hired this private company to
[01:00:44] to do this manage it.
[01:00:45] Yeah.
[01:00:46] But I I'll play devil's advocate. You
[01:00:49] know, they're in a busy area. People
[01:00:50] come and park there. They don't get to
[01:00:51] park there. They own the parking lot and
[01:00:52] they've had it. So, they start booting
[01:00:54] you.
[01:00:55] I just want a giant
[01:00:57] I'm okay being booted. I'm not okay for
[01:00:59] an hour and a half paying $200.
[01:01:02] Yeah. Well, I
[01:01:02] like that was my issue
[01:01:04] when you have to do the labor of
[01:01:06] unbooting. Correct.
[01:01:08] But what what I want is it was too much.
[01:01:12] No, but I want a sign that says we will
[01:01:14] boot you within five minutes of you
[01:01:16] parking here if you park here. I will
[01:01:17] never park there.
[01:01:18] But I don't know if that could have been
[01:01:19] a sign. I just may not have seen.
[01:01:20] I mean, you were on the phone, so I'm
[01:01:21] just going to give you a pass here. But
[01:01:22] I'm just saying if you if you have a
[01:01:24] sign in front of all that's like we will
[01:01:25] seriously boot you. I'm like, I'm
[01:01:26] actually not kidding. Don't be surprised
[01:01:28] when you come out to a boot. Then I
[01:01:30] would I would and then the boot's going
[01:01:31] to cost you $1.98 after fees. I'm not
[01:01:35] parking there. That'll solve your
[01:01:36] problem. Then you can stop being
[01:01:38] predatory. I'm having a I have a feeling
[01:01:40] they're enjoying the money they're
[01:01:41] making,
[01:01:43] which is where it makes me mad
[01:01:46] because they could be transparent up
[01:01:47] front.
[01:01:49] Um,
[01:01:52] what does one more book really mean
[01:01:53] before bedtime? Dr. Becky wrote a book
[01:01:56] called One More Book. Um, and I was
[01:01:58] listening to her talk about it.
[01:01:59] Basically, when your kid is going to
[01:02:02] sleep and they start to do the stalling,
[01:02:04] right? They start to be like, "Oh, I'm
[01:02:05] thirsty. Oh, I want to do this. Oh, can
[01:02:08] I have a snack? Can we read one more
[01:02:10] book?" It's because they know they're
[01:02:12] about to separate from their parents for
[01:02:14] the longest period of the day
[01:02:16] and it scares them and they want
[01:02:18] certainty. So, they start to ask for one
[01:02:20] more book and basically that's them
[01:02:23] trying to stay secure and attached to
[01:02:25] you. So, it's actually quite cute. It is
[01:02:28] very cute.
[01:02:31] what I read it's like you got to you
[01:02:32] have to find the fine line of like hold
[01:02:33] your boundary right like we can't read
[01:02:35] 75 more books but we can't explain that
[01:02:38] it's okay and this is where bedtime
[01:02:39] routines come into handy right because
[01:02:42] there there's familiar familiar
[01:02:43] familiarity familiarity and then bedtime
[01:02:46] and then they know they wake up and then
[01:02:47] they have their routine which also hold
[01:02:50] on this routine thing I saw on Substack
[01:02:53] people talking about don't be hard on
[01:02:55] yourself if your summer is just at home
[01:02:57] like you get online and everyone's like
[01:02:58] in Europe and they're doing all these
[01:03:00] things. But if your summer is spent at
[01:03:02] home in your neighborhood, it's actually
[01:03:03] one of the better things you can do for
[01:03:05] your kids because that's where their
[01:03:06] routine is and that's where they feel
[01:03:08] safe.
[01:03:08] Yeah. And and I see how much Bubber
[01:03:11] loves her routine. And funny enough,
[01:03:13] that's one of the things I'm most
[01:03:14] excited about Aspen is like she's going
[01:03:16] with her routine. Like so many of the
[01:03:19] people that she's interacts with on a
[01:03:20] day-to-day basis are going to be there.
[01:03:22] So I've talked all about like Bubba and
[01:03:23] Wawa in Aspen like going to the lake
[01:03:26] together.
[01:03:27] Oh, in their boots. Like it will be
[01:03:28] huge. Um,
[01:03:29] big times.
[01:03:30] Yeah, it's gonna be phenomenal.
[01:03:33] I think it's probably appropriate time
[01:03:35] for us to do a bedtime routine update.
[01:03:37] Yeah,
[01:03:38] because we've gotten even more extreme.
[01:03:41] Okay.
[01:03:42] On the timing.
[01:03:42] She I mean, we're 45 seconds. She's
[01:03:44] like, "Bye.
[01:03:44] We're We're no routine.
[01:03:47] We're no routine anymore. We are I We're
[01:03:51] at 8ish directionally
[01:03:53] time. The time she goes about is 8:00
[01:03:54] p.m.
[01:03:54] Um, and I what I say is I Do you want to
[01:04:00] describe it or do you want me to
[01:04:01] describe it?
[01:04:01] You describe it.
[01:04:03] We're like just I go Dada and I I say
[01:04:05] that I'm tired.
[01:04:07] And we did that cute thing where she put
[01:04:09] Rocky to bed, but we've we've graduated
[01:04:11] since then. And she goes and she just um
[01:04:14] I go da na. And if she goes no, then
[01:04:19] I'll like wait 3 to five minutes. And if
[01:04:22] I go da na and she like goes na or says
[01:04:25] like anything or doesn't say anything
[01:04:29] then we'll go we'll give everyone basos
[01:04:31] everyone kisses
[01:04:32] um upstairs
[01:04:34] little uh brush of the teeth and then um
[01:04:40] BB
[01:04:41] pacifier
[01:04:43] sleepsack in the bed
[01:04:45] and she says she says she starts waving
[01:04:47] and says nigh
[01:04:48] nigh
[01:04:48] nigh night sometimes she'll say I will
[01:04:50] you
[01:04:51] we're Like
[01:04:52] that's it.
[01:04:52] So we're kind of in a no routine routine
[01:04:55] now is is so I feel we've gone we've
[01:04:58] zigged. There's no there's no books.
[01:05:01] Yeah.
[01:05:01] This isn't a brag. This is just the
[01:05:03] state of affairs.
[01:05:04] Of course it's not a brag. You're just
[01:05:06] updating.
[01:05:06] I think we've gotten very lucky. I think
[01:05:09] I'm missing one one thing here.
[01:05:11] That's that's it.
[01:05:12] Are you still diaper out outdoor time
[01:05:15] before
[01:05:16] doing a lot? We're we're mainly outside
[01:05:18] now.
[01:05:20] Around 5:00 we are doing something.
[01:05:23] We're outside or we're we're like
[01:05:25] definitely not in the house just like
[01:05:27] doing nothing. We try to go to the pool
[01:05:29] or park or
[01:05:32] Yeah. some version of getting the zooies
[01:05:34] out.
[01:05:36] Yeah. We're It just there's no there's
[01:05:39] no routine other than like taking her up
[01:05:43] and saying good night to everyone.
[01:05:46] saying nai ask oh sorry I knew I forgot
[01:05:49] something uh often I'll ask her saying
[01:05:52] do you want bb and if I which is passi
[01:05:56] and if she says bb another hilarious
[01:05:59] thing but doesn't know how to say yes
[01:06:01] so if you ask her if she wants something
[01:06:03] like do you want bb she'll either say no
[01:06:06] or bi
[01:06:07] she says her version of yes is repeating
[01:06:09] do you want pancakes
[01:06:11] panca
[01:06:12] then she'll say panca or she'll say no
[01:06:14] waffle
[01:06:15] or a lot of po asking for lately. Yeah.
[01:06:18] Wants chicken.
[01:06:18] Um and so I'll ask her if she wants BB.
[01:06:21] Oh, my new one. Avocado,
[01:06:24] which she doesn't like. So, I don't
[01:06:25] really understand.
[01:06:26] The word is funny. The word is fun.
[01:06:27] I know. She likes saying the word, too,
[01:06:29] but she doesn't like avocado.
[01:06:30] That's what I'm saying. I just think she
[01:06:31] enjoys the word.
[01:06:32] Yeah,
[01:06:32] it's a lot of syllables.
[01:06:33] That's why that's why I think she enjoys
[01:06:35] it. Um, okay. Well, you guys, I feel
[01:06:38] like we did it.
[01:06:39] Yeah. Thank you all for listening.
[01:06:42] Thank you for listening
[01:06:43] and happy Fourth of July week. Happy
[01:06:45] Fourth of July week and Alex's birthday
[01:06:47] week.
[01:06:48] That's so nice.
[01:06:49] Oh my goodness.
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