# NVIDIA's Jensen Huang on Building the Dynamo of the Intelligence Age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UpQbeAZuqA
Translation: zh-CN

[00:00] Thank you so much, Jensen. So, uh we are

[00:04] in the middle of a massive AI

[00:08] revolution. Uh it is probably bigger and

[00:13] faster than even the industrial

[00:14] revolution

[00:16] and you have called out what's happening

[00:18] right now as the largest infrastructure

[00:22] buildout in human history. At the center

[00:25] of that buildout is the AI factory and

[00:28] the company enabling all of that is

[00:31] Nvidia. Can you tell us what is an AI

[00:35] factory and why is it the best

[00:37] investment for any enterprise in the

[00:39] next decade?

[00:42] >> Okay, so um you could you could

[00:45] understand AI in a in a particular

[00:47] number of ways. the the way that you

[00:49] understand AI probably most is through a

[00:52] chatbot through a web browser. Uh you're

[00:55] interacting with it. You give it a

[00:57] prompt. It says something back to you.

[01:00] And and even those of you who have been

[01:02] using AI for some time uh you've seen in

[01:05] the last couple two three years a very

[01:08] significant evolution improvement in the

[01:11] capabilities of AI. Two years ago, you

[01:14] heard about chat GBPT. And ChatGpt

[01:17] basically is a computer software that

[01:21] understands the input you give it. It

[01:24] can perceive understand information

[01:27] and it can translate and generate the

[01:31] information into something else. Okay?

[01:33] So, you can give it a prompting. You can

[01:35] say, "Here's this PDF I gave you. Um, I

[01:37] would like you now to summarize it. It

[01:39] went from text to text." You could also

[01:42] tell it, here's a PDF I gave you. Um, I

[01:44] would like you to now generate an image

[01:47] of that story. It go text to image. You

[01:50] could use go from image to text, meaning

[01:53] you could give it a picture and you can

[01:55] what's happening inside this picture. It

[01:57] goes text uh image to text. Does that

[02:00] make sense? Anything to anything else.

[02:02] And AI in the last in two years time,

[02:05] two years ago was largely able to do

[02:07] this translation. We called it

[02:09] generation generative models. Okay,

[02:12] generative AI. But the the thing that is

[02:15] very big deal inside that word

[02:18] generative AI is in order to do

[02:20] something even more valuable than

[02:23] generation p understanding and

[02:26] generating is thinking. Well, you can't

[02:29] think if you don't generate words. And

[02:32] so the fir the foundation of generative

[02:35] AI gave us the ability to generate

[02:37] internal thoughts, thinking, reasoning,

[02:40] step-by-step reasoning, problem solving.

[02:42] It also allowed us to do another thing

[02:45] that is now very important, which is

[02:47] generate intelligence to control

[02:50] something else to generate control to

[02:54] use a tool. Does it make sense to use a

[02:56] browser, use a spreadsheet, use

[02:58] Photoshop, use PowerPoint, use

[03:00] something, use AutoCAD, use another

[03:02] tool? Now that tool today is digital,

[03:06] but someday that tool will be

[03:08] mechanical. So if I generate a command

[03:11] to a mechanical system, that would be

[03:13] called robotics. If I generate commands

[03:15] for uh a machine with steering wheel,

[03:18] that would be called self-driving cars.

[03:20] Does that make sense? Okay. And so two

[03:22] years ago, two years ago, in fact, you

[03:25] saw the foundations. We call it chat

[03:27] GBT. And everybody said, "Ah, you know,

[03:29] it's fun. It's it's silly or it produced

[03:32] a whole bunch of crazy hallucinated

[03:34] text." That's all true, but it was the

[03:37] foundational technology that led to all

[03:39] of this.

[03:41] Two years later, we now have agentic

[03:43] systems. Now, that's one view of AI. I

[03:49] just described the view which is what

[03:51] can AI do right and so now all of you

[03:55] realize you see it from chatg you see it

[03:57] from codeex you see it from cloud code

[03:59] you see you see that it's now able to

[04:02] not just understand but it's able to do

[04:05] work reason and do work now two years

[04:08] ago when AI was able to understand you

[04:11] and generate information that was

[04:14] interesting novel

[04:16] a little cute. Whenever you need a poem

[04:19] written, great way to do it, right? Who

[04:23] doesn't want to write a country song?

[04:25] And so, so that was two years ago. But

[04:28] now, because it's able to do work, AI is

[04:31] valuable. Valuable meaning it can

[04:34] generate information. It can generate

[04:36] useful work, and it could be paid for

[04:38] it. Because we pay for we're we're

[04:40] interested in having friends that are

[04:42] smart. We love people who are

[04:44] know-it-alls,

[04:46] but we don't pay them for it. We pay for

[04:49] people who do work. Does that make

[04:50] sense? All right. Which is what happened

[04:52] in the last two years. AI went from

[04:54] having this capability to now agent went

[04:57] from not use not very valuable to now

[05:00] producing useful work. So much useful

[05:03] work that you and I are doing this every

[05:05] day. We're paying AI by the hour, right?

[05:09] And so we might pay them $30 an hour to

[05:11] do the work, $20 an hour to do the work.

[05:13] We're basically paying AI a lot of money

[05:15] today. The fastest growing software

[05:18] business in the history of mankind

[05:20] because now it's doing useful work and

[05:22] we can pay them to do it. Now that's one

[05:24] view of AI which is what it can do. But

[05:26] one other view of AI that's really

[05:28] important to help reason through what

[05:29] Constantine is saying. So for example,

[05:32] the reason why some companies, some

[05:34] people are able to build great

[05:35] businesses and could maneuver themselves

[05:38] into the center of very large industries

[05:41] is because when they see this

[05:42] capability,

[05:44] this is very interesting. One

[05:46] interesting thought is if we're able to

[05:48] do this, what is the implication to this

[05:51] downstream industries? That's an

[05:54] interesting conversation we should have.

[05:55] Okay. So now that AI can do this, what

[05:58] happens to all the industries like

[05:59] healthcare and financial services and

[06:01] life sciences, manufacturing, logistics,

[06:03] transportation,

[06:05] on and on and on, retail, advertising,

[06:09] future entertainment, the the list the

[06:11] list of the list of conversations you

[06:14] can have about now that AI can do this,

[06:16] what can it do as a result subsequently?

[06:18] That's an interesting conversation, but

[06:19] you should go upstream meaning

[06:21] industrially what does that mean? And so

[06:23] the first thing you realize is this. Go

[06:25] back to first principles.

[06:27] I had told you just now that AI is

[06:30] software and it's being produced by a

[06:32] computer. Now what happened to the

[06:35] computer that is made it possible to do

[06:37] this? Well, the big idea is about if you

[06:42] think about the computer as we know it

[06:43] today really emerged about 64 years ago.

[06:46] IBM system 360 was the biggest

[06:49] announcement of computing and 64 years

[06:52] ago IBM was the most valuable company in

[06:54] the world. Okay. And they created the

[06:56] modern understanding of computers.

[06:58] Everything that we can describe about

[07:00] computer was really described in 1964.

[07:02] For 60 for 40 years largely has remained

[07:05] the same. And what happened was what

[07:09] happened was that in that form of

[07:11] computing is called pre-recording.

[07:14] You write down your story. you save it

[07:16] to a file. You write a program by hand,

[07:18] you save it to a file. You uh take a

[07:21] picture, you save it to a file. You

[07:22] record music, you save it to a file. You

[07:24] make a video. Right now, we're in

[07:25] streaming right now, but somebody's

[07:26] going to record it. You're going to save

[07:27] it to a file. And when you want to use

[07:29] it later, you retrieve it from the disc

[07:32] drive. Does that make sense? And the

[07:34] retrieval process is done intelligently.

[07:37] So that's why everybody's retrieval of a

[07:40] news story is a little bit different.

[07:41] It's called a recommener system. But

[07:43] basically computers as we know it today

[07:45] is a retriever retrievalbased system

[07:48] which is the reason why these buildings

[07:50] are called data centers. They store

[07:53] data.

[07:54] Notice they don't call them computer

[07:56] centers because you're not doing much

[07:58] computing. They just store data that you

[08:00] retrieve based on what you touch on your

[08:02] phone. Well, what happened now? If you

[08:06] look at what I just described, in order

[08:07] for this AI to work as I described it,

[08:11] every time I say something to it,

[08:14] I have to give it new information, we

[08:16] call it context, I give it a new prompt

[08:20] that's called a query.

[08:22] Between the context and the query, it

[08:25] will understand it first, reason about

[08:28] it, and it will produce an output based

[08:30] on that context in that query, based on

[08:33] the circumstance. Does that make sense

[08:34] so far? Okay, give me one nod. Okay. And

[08:37] so if that is the case, every time you

[08:41] use the AI,

[08:44] the content is produced originally every

[08:47] single time. Everything I'm saying to

[08:49] you right now is being produced in real

[08:52] time. And it's because my explanation is

[08:55] based on the fact that I realize all of

[08:57] you come from 60 different countries,

[09:00] 128 different families. You all have

[09:02] many different backgrounds. Some of you

[09:05] probably came from the computer

[09:06] industry. Most of you probably did not.

[09:08] And so I'm explaining the information to

[09:10] you in a way that is sufficiently deep.

[09:13] But ultimately my goal is this. So that

[09:16] you know how to make your next

[09:19] investment. That's what I'm leading to.

[09:21] And so I'm going to give you enough

[09:23] sufficient information that you can

[09:25] reason about it for yourself so that

[09:27] when you see something in the next time

[09:28] you go, that's worth investing in.

[09:30] That's going to be a big industry.

[09:32] That's a hundred billion dollars right

[09:33] now and it looks really big, but that's

[09:35] nothing compared to how big it's going

[09:37] to be. I'm going to give you the

[09:39] intuition to solve that problem. Okay?

[09:41] And so, so here we are went from a

[09:43] computer industry that was largely based

[09:46] on retrieval for 60 years and all of a

[09:47] sudden one day it's completely generated

[09:50] in real time. We call it intelligence.

[09:53] This this is what I'm doing right now

[09:54] for you. I'm demonstrating intelligence,

[09:57] contextual awareness. He gave me a

[09:59] prompt and here comes my answer. Does it

[10:01] make sense?

[10:02] >> Extreme intelligence. Extremely

[10:07] artificial intelligence. Okay. And so

[10:11] and so here I so here here what's going

[10:13] on now. I just gave you one word

[10:15] earlier. It's called generative AI. The

[10:17] the computer of today has been

[10:19] completely reinvented. It's now

[10:21] generative.

[10:23] And every single toe, every single

[10:25] letter you see, every single word you

[10:26] see in your in the future, every video,

[10:28] every image, every ad, every TV

[10:31] commercial, every single time you read a

[10:33] story,

[10:34] >> a news story, every one of them will be

[10:37] different. What Constantine sees, what I

[10:39] see, what you see will be completely

[10:41] different because it'll be generated for

[10:43] you. because your your interest, your

[10:47] context, who you are, for what reason

[10:49] you asked, how you asked is completely

[10:52] different. Does it make sense? And so

[10:54] therefore therefore

[10:57] every single pixel that you see, every

[10:59] single sound that you hear in the

[11:01] future, every video you see in the

[11:02] future will be originally generated, not

[11:05] retrieved. Which means in the future we

[11:08] need a lot more generators.

[11:11] >> And these generators is what we built.

[11:14] That's what we build for a living. These

[11:16] are large computers and they're

[11:18] generating intelligence. Now, the next

[11:20] question is this.

[11:23] Well, how big could it be? How big can

[11:25] it be? And so, it turns out it turns out

[11:29] the amount of information, the amount of

[11:31] generation of intelligence is we do it

[11:35] for about a billion people in the world

[11:36] today.

[11:39] Now that I told you that AI has become

[11:42] agentic, meaning that it can actually do

[11:44] work by itself. Well, if it can do work

[11:47] by itself, then one agent can

[11:49] communicate with another agent and say,

[11:51] I have some work to do. Let's team up

[11:52] together. Let's do some work. And now

[11:54] you have all these different agents and

[11:56] they're all working together to solve

[11:58] problems inside your company. Say, so

[12:00] inside our company, Constantine knows

[12:02] that we we're huge users of agentic AI.

[12:05] We have hundreds of thousands of agents

[12:08] probably running around right now that

[12:09] are doing work and they're talking to

[12:11] each other and they're solving problems.

[12:13] All guardrailed, all sandboxed,

[12:16] all guardrailed and sandboxed, but

[12:18] they're all working with each other.

[12:20] Which means in the future it is very

[12:21] likely that the internet that we use

[12:24] today for a billion people will likely

[12:28] mostly be several billion call it a

[12:32] hundred billion agents working around

[12:34] the clock and they're using the internet

[12:36] and talking to each other and what are

[12:38] they saying? So for example, there'll be

[12:40] uh companies working with companies uh

[12:42] employees agents working with other

[12:44] employees agents. Uh there'll be

[12:46] self-driving cars which are agentic.

[12:49] There will be robots which are agentic.

[12:51] All the manufacturing systems, every

[12:53] building will be agentic. There'll be

[12:55] agents all over the place and they'll be

[12:57] using the internet and all of those

[12:59] commands that they generate to each

[13:01] other will be generated. all of the

[13:04] thoughts that they have to understand

[13:07] all generated. Does that make sense? And

[13:09] so the basically the world is going to

[13:11] be this layer of computing

[13:14] that's going to cocoon the earth and

[13:16] it's going to be generating intelligence

[13:18] all the time. Now I just said something

[13:20] that sounds ridiculous

[13:23] except in fact it's already happened

[13:26] >> twice.

[13:28] So 300 years ago

[13:31] a company in Germany called Seammens

[13:34] produced a machine and this machine is

[13:36] really interesting machine. You go up to

[13:38] this machine you light it on fire

[13:42] and then this incredible invisible force

[13:44] comes out the other end.

[13:46] >> Nobody understood what it was. We

[13:48] understand it now as electricity.

[13:52] How many power generators are there in

[13:53] the world? We call it a grid.

[13:58] Power generation cocoons the planet. We

[14:01] call it the grid. And then of course 20

[14:04] some odd years ago,

[14:06] earlier than that, 35 years ago, this

[14:09] networking scheme, networking

[14:12] matrix fabric was created here in the

[14:14] United States eventually became the

[14:16] internet. And where is it? It cocoons

[14:18] the world. And so now you have energy,

[14:20] communications, intelligence, and it

[14:23] will cocoon the world. and we'll use it

[14:24] for, you know, it'll just be a commodity

[14:26] and we'll use it all over the place. And

[14:28] so what Nvidia does for a living is this

[14:30] new machine. The machine that was

[14:32] invented three years, 300 years ago is

[14:34] called the dynamo.

[14:36] That dynamo,

[14:40] anything that moves comes in. Could be,

[14:42] you know, waterfalls, it could be wind,

[14:44] fire, steam.

[14:47] transfer it from motion atoms

[14:51] right to electrons

[14:55] atoms to electrons. We then take the

[14:58] electrons into our machine called

[15:00] Nvidia.

[15:01] Electrons now comes into our machine

[15:04] comes in this factory and what comes out

[15:07] are numbers. These numbers

[15:10] depending on how you combine them turns

[15:13] into language

[15:16] math. It can also turn into a new

[15:19] language. We've learned proteins. We

[15:22] learned the the language of human

[15:24] biology. We learned the language of the

[15:27] physical world, physics, climate,

[15:30] weather. We learned the language of the

[15:34] 3D world, robotics, self-driving cars.

[15:38] We learned the language of all kinds of

[15:40] different forms of intelligence.

[15:42] But the point being now these two

[15:46] machines 300 years apart,

[15:49] atoms in, electrons out, electrons in,

[15:52] numbers out. And those numbers could be

[15:54] re rejiggered, reformulated into all

[15:56] kinds of different intelligence. That's

[15:58] what we built. That's what we do for a

[15:59] living. And that's why I call it a

[16:01] factory because it's producing. We call

[16:04] them tokens, but they're just numbers,

[16:06] tokens.

[16:08] And these tokens are intelligence.

[16:10] That's it. That's what we do. It's not

[16:14] that hard. Brilliant.

[16:24] Now you know what AI is for. And now you

[16:26] know what AI's how AI is built and how

[16:29] how big it's going to be.

[16:31] >> Thank you all for joining today.

[16:32] >> Thank you.

[16:34] >> Good job. Excellent question.

[16:39] >> I I've really felt that carried it. You

[16:41] know the prompt. Um

[16:43] >> you laid it up for me.

[16:45] >> Um okay. So this is a massive

[16:47] revolution. Yeah.

[16:48] >> Um and you you laid out three

[16:50] transformations. uh energy

[16:52] transformation which touches everyone

[16:54] today and a lot of the people in the

[16:56] audience are part of these manufacturing

[16:58] and energy producers globally,

[17:00] telecommunications which connects all of

[17:02] us and now intelligence and in energy

[17:05] you talked about the generator

[17:07] telecommunications I guess the

[17:08] comparable would be the switch or

[17:10] something along those lines for routing

[17:12] communications globally and now in the

[17:14] intelligence revolution it's the GPU at

[17:16] the core and the AI factory like the

[17:19] H100 or any of the the new systems that

[17:23] bring everything you need under the same

[17:25] hood. Vera Rubin, what have you

[17:26] >> and these these factories, so you know,

[17:28] these generators, it's each one of our

[17:32] each one of our units, we call it a

[17:35] rack. There's 72 chips inside. We we we

[17:40] um we manufacture uh call it 8 million

[17:43] of them this year, but but uh 72 of them

[17:47] go into a rack. That rack weighs two

[17:49] tons.

[17:51] Uh it is uh $4 million,

[17:54] has one a.5 million parts

[17:57] and um it's the most expensive piece of

[18:00] equipment in the world. And we

[18:02] manufacture them like like um I guess it

[18:05] would be like phones. I mean we crank

[18:07] them out and they go into you know data

[18:10] centers all over the world and yeah we

[18:12] build these machines in volume.

[18:16] They they are big devices. This is this

[18:19] is how you do your weightlifting.

[18:21] >> Yes,

[18:21] >> I understand.

[18:22] >> No volume discounts.

[18:27] >> Okay. So, you laid out this picture of a

[18:29] very exciting world

[18:31] >> that we are in. We're in the middle of

[18:33] this revolution. We're

[18:35] >> you could say decades in. You could say

[18:36] years in.

[18:38] >> Certainly now in the the mainstream of

[18:41] the intelligence revolution.

[18:43] >> How do we participate? I'm sure

[18:45] everybody here wants to participate in

[18:47] this revolution.

[18:48] >> Yeah, excellent question.

[18:49] >> Let's start with big enterprises and

[18:51] then let's get to individuals as well.

[18:54] How do people join this movement?

[18:56] >> And so now I gave you two mental models.

[18:58] I'm going to give you one more mental

[18:59] model. So one mental model there really,

[19:02] you know, we could talk about this story

[19:04] and hopefully we cover all four phases.

[19:06] I just talked about what AI can do. I

[19:09] talked about how AI is made and these

[19:11] things are in these factories. These

[19:12] factories are, you know, each gigawatt

[19:15] is about $50 billion. So if you've ever

[19:17] seen, it's the most expensive factory in

[19:19] the world, but it also that one $50

[19:22] billion factory also generates 300400

[19:26] billion dollars in intelligence. And so

[19:29] the the production value is incredible.

[19:32] Okay, the return on investment is

[19:34] extremely fast. And so these so that's

[19:37] the factory part. The part that I'm

[19:38] going to tell you now and this is very

[19:40] important when you think about

[19:41] investment is what does the industrial

[19:43] layout look like for for AI and the the

[19:46] the way to think about the industrial

[19:48] view is think of it as a five layer

[19:50] cake. Now I told you on the bottom is

[19:53] energy. The bottom is remember I said

[19:56] the dynamo. Okay. Now we of course

[19:58] different different AC generators and

[19:59] things like that power generation. And

[20:01] so on the lowest layer is energy. This

[20:03] is the single greatest opportunity in

[20:07] several generations for the energy

[20:09] industries to grow. The very first time

[20:12] in probably I don't know a hundred years

[20:15] since the energy grid in many countries

[20:18] could be invested in. This is the best

[20:20] opportunity to invest in sustainable

[20:22] energy. If you care about sustainable

[20:23] energy, nuclear, air, you know, or wind,

[20:27] solar, you name it, whatever form,

[20:29] hydrogen, whatever form, so long as it

[20:31] produces energy, it's going to get

[20:33] funded. And so that tells you something

[20:35] about how great of a time this is

[20:37] because we have a trillion dollars. Just

[20:39] think this one year, this year alone,

[20:41] we're going to put a trillion dollars

[20:43] from the market into this entire five

[20:45] layer cake I'm I'm about to describe to

[20:47] you. So the first layer is energy.

[20:48] That's the reason why Semens is doing so

[20:50] well. That's Mitsubishi is doing

[20:52] fantastically. GE Vernova, I mean

[20:55] everybody. The first layer of the cake

[20:57] is energy. The second layer of the cake

[21:00] is chips and computers and networking

[21:02] and switches and silicon photonics. Does

[21:04] that make sense? It's all the computers.

[21:06] The third layer of the cake, we call it

[21:09] infrastructure.

[21:10] land, power, shell, money,

[21:16] data center operations,

[21:18] every one of them in scarce supply

[21:20] today. And so that's the that's the next

[21:23] layer is infrastructure layer. And then

[21:25] the layer that everybody sees that

[21:27] everybody thinks is AI is the model

[21:28] layer. Does it make sense? That's the

[21:30] next layer. It sits on top of the

[21:32] computers, the the cloud infrastructure.

[21:34] And this is the greatest opportunity in

[21:36] recent human in human history that I

[21:38] know that so much marketdriven

[21:41] investment is naturally coming into the

[21:43] ecosystem. This is a great time to build

[21:45] and so so now that's the model layer.

[21:47] The model layer is uh open AI it's

[21:50] anthropic but this is the part that you

[21:53] can't overlook. This is very important.

[21:55] So you have two companies that you know

[21:57] of that you hear about. Um uh however

[22:00] don't forget AI as I was explaining

[22:02] earlier has learned the language

[22:05] it learns the language and the meaning

[22:07] the mean the language the meaning of

[22:10] anything that is structural. So that

[22:14] layer that what's really important is so

[22:16] we hear we we talk about all the

[22:17] language but don't forget um we learn

[22:20] any you can learn anything with

[22:21] structure and so let me give you an

[22:23] example of something with structure. Uh

[22:24] today when I walked into room I was

[22:26] expecting a lot of people and it wasn't

[22:29] unexpected the way you appeared.

[22:31] >> Now if some of you were hanging off the

[22:33] ceiling and floating in midair and some

[22:36] of you you know the one human but body

[22:39] parts in 17 different places um and and

[22:42] I could see through some of you then

[22:44] then it's hard to learn that because

[22:46] every time it's different okay because

[22:48] it's hard to learn quantum things.

[22:51] However, things with structure we can

[22:52] learn, right? People have eyes and so

[22:55] you can learn these things. Okay? And so

[22:57] 3D I I learned the laws of physics. Uh I

[23:00] I sat down and notice I sat down with

[23:03] confidence. I wasn't ex I wasn't 50% 53%

[23:08] of the time I landed safely on the

[23:10] chair. The other 47% of the time I went

[23:12] right through it.

[23:13] >> And so I can't trust it, but 100% time.

[23:16] Do you guys understand? And so if if you

[23:19] if things are predictable and are

[23:22] predictable then there's structure you

[23:23] can learn from it and you can learn the

[23:24] meaning of it. Okay? And so we learned

[23:26] the meaning of protein. We learned the

[23:27] meaning. We're learning the meaning of

[23:29] genes. Not just sequencing it, not not

[23:31] just crisper editing it, but what is the

[23:33] meaning of that gene? What is the

[23:35] meaning of a cell?

[23:37] >> Why does a cell do what the cell does?

[23:39] What happens in two cells coming

[23:40] together? And so this is no different

[23:42] than imagine I learned the meaning of a

[23:44] cell the way I learned the meaning of a

[23:46] word. And what what is what happens when

[23:48] I took take two words, put them

[23:49] together? These two words activate each

[23:51] other, turn into something else of

[23:53] another meaning. Okay? And so from a

[23:55] computer's perspective, it doesn't care

[23:57] if it's a cell, a protein, a word, an

[24:00] image, a car. Does that make sense? It's

[24:03] just tokens.

[24:05] >> And so we have to figure out as computer

[24:07] scientists, we have to figure out how to

[24:09] represent the world's information in all

[24:12] these different ways so that the

[24:14] computer can understand it. Understand

[24:16] it, understand it, reason about it, come

[24:18] up with a plan, generate an action. the

[24:21] intelligence loop proteins the same way

[24:23] cells the same way the human anatomy is

[24:26] the same way it must be predictable it's

[24:28] predictable because tomorrow morning I'm

[24:30] largely the same it must be predictable

[24:33] okay and so um we're learning all these

[24:36] different my point is there are two

[24:38] language models that you guys know about

[24:39] but AI is a giant industry

[24:43] the industry of everything else physical

[24:45] is about $80 trillion

[24:48] it is actually you know the most

[24:50] important frontier, the one the parts

[24:52] that we're not talking about. And then

[24:54] on top of that, this model, this

[24:56] technology then feeds into all the stuff

[24:58] that Constantine gets to see these days,

[25:00] which is all of these startups that are

[25:03] coming up with revolutionary ideas in

[25:05] financial services, in legal, in

[25:08] accounting, in transportation,

[25:11] logistics. Isn't that right? And so what

[25:14] that layer above this last year, a

[25:18] hundred billion dollars of venture

[25:20] capital investment, the single largest

[25:23] year of VC investment in the history of

[25:25] humanity.

[25:27] All of that money is going into that

[25:29] fifth layer, the top layer, which is the

[25:32] the layer that apply applications to

[25:35] enhance human condition. And so there

[25:38] are five layers when you think about AI

[25:41] and you want to invest in this future

[25:43] and I promise you this future is going

[25:45] to be gigantic because two years ago

[25:47] zero it's approximately we're about to

[25:50] put $1 trillion in but that's 1 trillion

[25:53] out of the

[25:55] you know we're going to be putting in

[25:56] probably the AI industry I'm going to

[25:58] guess for a second probably something

[26:00] along the lines of 20 trillion a year.

[26:02] We're one trillion dollars in of a 20

[26:05] trillion dollars a year ecosystem

[26:08] because the production of intelligence,

[26:10] you just got to ask yourself how

[26:12] important is intelligence and who needs

[26:15] it and how much of it do you want? And

[26:18] so those are kind of the basic questions

[26:20] and all of that intelligence whether

[26:22] it's for proteins or cars or robots or

[26:25] language or math, science, whatever it

[26:27] is, has to be generated by these

[26:28] machines. And so this five layer cake

[26:31] >> is the industrial version and I think

[26:34] that's a good way to think about where

[26:35] to invest

[26:37] >> hugely. So so you've described what is a

[26:40] multi-t trillion dollar opportunity to

[26:43] become part of this revolution and that

[26:45] includes the hardware and the

[26:47] facilities. If it's $50 billion for a

[26:50] gigawatt and there's 100 plus coming

[26:52] online in the next several years, that

[26:55] is trillions plus the application layer

[26:57] where that is many many more trillions

[26:59] plus plus plus and that means real jobs

[27:03] for people doing the the hands in

[27:06] building and then also

[27:07] >> right now exactly and it's we have to we

[27:10] have to really emphasize this and this

[27:11] is very important to you. Um

[27:14] there every country has a different

[27:16] attitude about AI today. Would you guys

[27:19] agree with that? Every country because

[27:21] everybody's culture is a little

[27:22] different. Okay. And and here's here's

[27:25] my recommendation.

[27:27] Um be careful with with the analogies

[27:30] and the science fiction stories that

[27:32] this is Terminator and and words like

[27:35] singularity and and um ideas that that

[27:38] somebody say in 20% chance this will be

[27:41] the end of humanity as we know it. Okay,

[27:44] those kind of those kind of

[27:45] articulations of AI is just nonsense.

[27:49] >> It is complete nonsense. Oh, we have no

[27:51] idea how it works. This is so

[27:54] mysterious. We don't even know how it

[27:55] works. It might just get up out of its

[27:57] seat and walk out tomorrow morning.

[28:00] There's no question in my mind it's

[28:01] computer and software. And there's no

[28:04] question in my mind they know how it

[28:06] works. And do you know how I know they

[28:07] know how to works? Because every single

[28:09] year apparently it's getting better. If

[28:11] you don't know how something works, how

[28:12] do you make it better?

[28:14] I have no idea how it works. But I know

[28:16] how to make it better.

[28:19] That's nonsense. So why are they saying

[28:22] these things? That's an interesting

[28:23] question. However, don't let it scare

[28:25] you. You must engage it. You may or may

[28:28] not lose a job to an AI, but you will

[28:31] absolutely lose a job to someone who

[28:33] uses AI. Would you agree with that?

[28:35] >> Yes.

[28:35] >> Okay. So, let's not worry about the

[28:37] things you're not sure about and focus

[28:39] on the things that you are sure about.

[28:42] I am absolutely certain I will lose my

[28:45] job to someone who uses AI. So, before I

[28:48] worry about AI, let's just go make sure

[28:50] I use AI.

[28:53] And so the part that now why is that why

[28:55] is that common sense so important for me

[28:58] to tell you? Because some of you have

[29:00] children.

[29:02] What are you advising them? Run away

[29:06] or make sure whatever this technology is

[29:08] that gives people superpowers that you

[29:10] go make sure you use it. So I'm hoping

[29:14] that we do two things. one,

[29:18] we are and we're doing everything we can

[29:21] to build this technology safely for the

[29:23] world. I promise you so much computer

[29:26] science, so much investment, so much

[29:29] passion dedicated to making this

[29:31] technology safe for everybody to use.

[29:33] And I can prove it. Use Chad GB2 years

[29:36] ago and use it again.

[29:39] The amount of hallucination

[29:41] completely reduced to almost nothing to

[29:44] the point where it's producing knowledge

[29:46] not only accurately

[29:49] contextually relevant

[29:52] relevant to the moment. And if it

[29:54] doesn't know the answer, it does

[29:55] research. And when it comes up with an

[29:57] answer, it even questions itself before

[29:59] it tells you an answer, it reflects on

[30:01] it. and it comes up with two or three qu

[30:04] two or three different answers and it

[30:06] reflects on those before it produces the

[30:08] answer for you. The amount of safety and

[30:11] guard railing grounding of truth the

[30:14] technology had advanced so fast to make

[30:17] it safe. I am certain I can tell you

[30:19] this completely

[30:22] with fact. I prefer my car today than

[30:26] the car that was a 100 years ago.

[30:29] The technology is a lot better, but it's

[30:31] a lot safer.

[30:33] >> And it takes a lot of technology to be

[30:34] invented in order for it to be safe. And

[30:37] so I can tell you that it is our job, it

[30:40] is the responsibility of the technology

[30:41] industry is the responsibility

[30:43] scientists and engineers for us to build

[30:45] AI safely. Two, it is your

[30:47] responsibility to make sure that you

[30:50] tell the people that you love, whether

[30:53] it's your family, your kids, your

[30:55] grandkids, or the company you work for,

[30:57] or the country that you're in, whatever

[31:00] we do,

[31:02] engage AI. If we think it's a

[31:05] superpower, engage it. Because if we

[31:08] don't engage it, somebody else will.

[31:12] We're not going to lose our lives to AI.

[31:13] We're going to lose our lives to

[31:14] somebody who uses AI.

[31:17] And so that's my Well, that that's too

[31:21] serious.

[31:22] >> That's the uh

[31:23] >> that's too ser that was because he said

[31:24] the word job.

[31:27] >> So I've I've got a trigger and the

[31:29] trigger is a bunch of people making

[31:31] stuff up about jobs.

[31:33] >> We put a trillion dollars into the

[31:35] world's ecosystem this year, did we not?

[31:37] What's it doing? Making jobs.

[31:41] Right now, the energy sector, more jobs

[31:44] than ever. The chip sector, more jobs

[31:46] than ever. Infrastructure layer, more

[31:48] jobs than ever. Everything from land,

[31:50] power, shell, finances, AI model layer,

[31:53] more jobs than ever. And we just said a

[31:55] hundred billion dollars last year went

[31:57] into the upper layer, more jobs than

[31:59] ever. We're creating so many more jobs.

[32:01] Now, somebody might say, well, what

[32:03] about the traditional jobs? So, let me

[32:05] give you the example.

[32:07] You know that everybody's job and their

[32:09] task is related not the same.

[32:14] A job and the task you do in the job is

[32:17] related not the same. So for example my

[32:20] job is to be the CEO to lead the

[32:22] company. Most of most of the time and I

[32:24] spend a lot of it today most of my time

[32:27] my task is

[32:29] typing and talking.

[32:31] >> And so you could say CEO equals typing

[32:34] and talking.

[32:37] Both of them AI does in a superhuman way

[32:41] and I'm busier than ever. Then give you

[32:44] that of course that's a really cute

[32:45] example but let me give you the a more a

[32:48] deep example and you can now apply it.

[32:51] So 10 years ago more a slightly more

[32:53] than that one of the world's leading

[32:55] computer scientists wanted to warn

[32:58] everybody about the power of AI. And so

[33:01] he said and Constantine probably knows

[33:03] who it is. He said the first job that AI

[33:07] will destroy and eliminate and I advise

[33:09] nobody goes into this field because this

[33:12] field will be wiped out

[33:14] >> radiology

[33:14] >> is radiology. Computer vision is

[33:17] superhuman

[33:18] already 12 years ago.

[33:20] >> Computer vision. A computer can

[33:22] recognize images, detect anomalies with

[33:26] superhuman capability. Never gets tired,

[33:28] never miss a detail. 12 years ago it was

[33:30] able to do that. and he predicted as a

[33:32] result of that radiology is going to be

[33:34] wiped out. Well, he was absolutely

[33:37] right.

[33:39] Radiology was completely

[33:42] penetrated by computer vision. Computer

[33:44] vision

[33:46] proliferated through every single form

[33:48] of radiology and every radiology stack

[33:50] and every radiologist today is augmented

[33:53] by computer vision. However, the

[33:55] interesting thing is this. Radiology

[33:57] demand went up. The number of

[33:59] radiologists in the world went up. Why?

[34:04] Audience participation please. Why?

[34:11] >> I heard some of the things. It's all

[34:13] true. It turns out radiology spends a

[34:16] lot of time studying scans.

[34:20] But the purpose of the radiology, the

[34:22] purpose of the radiologist is to work

[34:25] with doctors to diagnose disease.

[34:29] >> To work with doctors to diagnose disease

[34:32] and because it's now automated, they are

[34:35] more productive. So two things happen.

[34:39] More patients are admitted into the

[34:42] hospital.

[34:43] They do more scans.

[34:46] The radiology department became more

[34:48] profitable.

[34:50] When they realized they were more

[34:51] profitable and they were admitting more

[34:54] patients, they hired more radiologists

[34:58] >> so that they could admit more patients

[35:01] so that they could make more money, take

[35:03] care of more people because as it turns

[35:05] out, there are a lot of people who are

[35:07] suffering and they're waiting to get

[35:09] into the hospital. So now

[35:13] let's pretend for a second.

[35:16] Do you appreciate the computer

[35:18] scientists tell you it's going to be the

[35:20] end of the world for radiologists?

[35:25] My point is we have to be responsible

[35:28] about what we make up because we could

[35:30] have done harm. And it turns out the

[35:33] number of people who want to be

[35:34] radiologists after his speech because it

[35:36] permeated through everything the number

[35:38] of radiologists started to decline.

[35:41] >> But we need more radiologists.

[35:43] >> Now somebody recently said 90% of

[35:45] software coding will be gone. And

[35:47] therefore we don't need software

[35:48] engineers.

[35:49] >> Meanwhile, we're hiring more software

[35:50] engineers than ever.

[35:51] >> Y

[35:52] >> and the reason for that is because a

[35:53] software engineer's job is to solve

[35:55] problems and dream up problems to solve

[35:58] innovate.

[35:59] I never hired somebody and said, "Hey,

[36:01] guess what? You're a software engineer.

[36:03] Listen,

[36:05] here's a keyboard. Show me how many

[36:08] words a second you can type."

[36:11] Typing is not the job of a software

[36:13] engineer. Coding is not their job.

[36:16] Solving problems is their job. And so, I

[36:18] just gave you two examples. Task versus

[36:21] purpose. Does that make sense?

[36:24] >> It turns out this example happens all

[36:27] over the place.

[36:28] But because we have such a contrived

[36:31] such a naive understanding

[36:34] that computer scientists could say

[36:36] things like 50% of the jobs will be

[36:38] gone.

[36:41] Software coding is completely

[36:43] irrelevant. Radiology is going to be

[36:44] wiped out because we think about it from

[36:46] the task perspective. We forgot the

[36:48] purpose of the job.

[36:50] >> There were radiologists before there

[36:52] were workstations. There are going to be

[36:54] radiologists after AI. There were soft

[36:57] there were engineers before software

[36:59] coding. I promise you that there will be

[37:01] engineers after. Does that make sense?

[37:03] And so that's the the way to think about

[37:06] jobs. And um I've now covered two

[37:09] things. One, if your country is not

[37:12] investing in AI, there's a massive boom

[37:15] of jobs you're missing out on.

[37:18] If your country or your company is not

[37:20] investing in AI, there's a level of

[37:23] elevation of your people that you're

[37:26] missing out on. AI is not going to

[37:29] eliminate jobs. AI is going to elevate

[37:32] your job. If I were a plumber today,

[37:35] largely I get a job task sheet or a

[37:39] schematic.

[37:42] However, if I'm a plumber tomorrow, it

[37:44] is very likely I'm a designer as well. M

[37:47] >> does that make sense? Because you and I

[37:49] both know

[37:50] >> Yeah.

[37:50] >> that we could just use AI to generate

[37:53] these incredible designs of a kitchen.

[37:56] If I'm a carpenter,

[37:59] >> I can turn if I were a saleserson of

[38:02] furniture. I'm going to be an interior

[38:03] interior designer for sure.

[38:06] >> And so I've elevated my craft. Went from

[38:09] somebody who sells furniture to somebody

[38:11] who could advise you on how beautiful

[38:13] your home could be. I went from somebody

[38:15] who's a carpenter, you expected me to

[38:17] come and just, you know, put some wood

[38:19] together and now I'm your home designer.

[38:22] >> You I've elevated my craft. I've given

[38:25] you so many examples, but that's my

[38:27] point. I think the narrative about AI is

[38:30] absolutely wrong.

[38:32] >> And the goal is to scare everybody out

[38:36] of it

[38:38] >> so that some people could benefit from

[38:39] it. But AI, as you know, is the greatest

[38:44] force for eliminating the technology

[38:46] divide in my entire career.

[38:49] >> I spent 40 some odd years, my entire

[38:51] life has been in computer design. I

[38:53] spent 40 some odd years and this entire

[38:56] time the technology we created became

[38:59] more and more and more and more complex

[39:01] and the number of people who could who

[39:03] could program these computers as a

[39:05] percentage of population declined.

[39:08] >> Who in this room knows C++?

[39:12] Come on, cut it out, you weirdos.

[39:16] This row is just is a startup company.

[39:18] Okay. And so so so this row Okay, so

[39:22] we're we're looking at 2%. Okay, 2%. And

[39:26] this is a very strange room. This is a

[39:28] very strange room. And so 2% of society

[39:30] knows C++. How many people know human?

[39:35] Okay, more than 2%. And so and so

[39:38] everybody now know everybody now can

[39:40] program a computer. And yet in the past

[39:42] only 2% can. We have closed the

[39:44] technology divide.

[39:46] >> We got to bring everybody with us. Does

[39:47] that make sense? Okay. Anyways, that's

[39:50] it on a Friday night. That's too

[39:52] serious. That that that is extremely

[39:54] optimistic and I agree. Uh and it's

[39:57] great to hear from someone who is closer

[39:59] to actual building of the actual

[40:02] technology that powers everything than

[40:04] anyone else in the world. Um, so Jensen,

[40:07] you talked about a future where we move

[40:09] from retrieval, this paradigm that we've

[40:12] had our entire lives in to generation,

[40:14] where everything is customized,

[40:16] knowledge is customized for the

[40:18] individual. A world where we have the

[40:21] generation of intelligence paralleling

[40:24] from the energy to the

[40:26] telecommunications revolution to now the

[40:28] intelligence revolution. You talked

[40:30] about these languages that the computer

[40:31] can speak, not just English or German,

[40:35] but even protein. You talked about five

[40:38] layers of participation, a abundant

[40:40] opportunity to participate in this

[40:42] revolution for everyone in this room and

[40:44] everyone listening. And you talked about

[40:46] how this transformation is going to be

[40:48] something that has real consequences.

[40:50] Real consequences that allow people to

[40:53] move from just doing the task to

[40:55] dreaming the problems and the solutions.

[40:58] maybe even a life of purpose and a life

[41:00] where we move from carpenters to

[41:02] architects. Thank you, Jensen. Please

[41:05] join me in thanking Jensen Swang, the

[41:07] man who made this all happen. Thank you.

[41:11] Thank you so much. You're awesome.

[41:13] Really appreciate it. Thank you. That

[41:14] was great.
