# LIVE at 9am ET | 6/30/26 | The Dan Le Batard Show

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[05:34] Zazzlo is being honored today at 5:00 pm.
[05:37] and I don't know what the nominating process was.
[05:39] I'd like to know rigorously how it is that this came to be where Las Rosas, which is doing better live music than any other place in Miami, according to the New Times, is celebrating a dad in Zazzlow.
[05:53] And I don't know how much competition there was for this award.
[05:58] What is this award?
[06:00] How did this award come to be?
[06:02] Why are you such a great dad when your rambunctious kids run rough shot over you?
[06:04] Well, when when you were gone last week, actually, Dominique was very impressed with all all the activities, all the things, the place I take my my boys, the the things that we do together.
[06:19] He he made it a big thing that I'm this I'm this great dad, and I do have the self-awareness to have admitted that all these things that we're doing, it it's really things that I want to do.
[06:30] Zaz's best friends are his kids.
[06:32] Yeah.
[06:32] We just realized he doesn't go out
[06:34] with his friends.
[06:36] He goes out and does stuff with his kids.
[06:38] Now the power dynamic is such as As mentioned that they have to kind of go do what he wants, which is what he likes.
[06:44] Yeah.
[06:44] Well, I mean, Dan trying to poo poo the Dad of Honor.
[06:46] When they heard I was a When Lost Rosas heard I was available, it was a no-brainer.
[06:52] We comb through every single father in the nation and we decided that Zaz was worthy of being the first ever honore.
[07:02] They even moved up the start time for me.
[07:03] Yeah, because he's like, "I'm I'm" He's he's like, "What time does it start?"
[07:06] I'm like, "Well, it's 6:00 to 9ish."
[07:07] He's like, "I'll be there at 600. I'll be there right at 600."
[07:10] So, I'm like, "You know what? World Cup's going on.
[07:12] Let's do this a little bit early for Zaz the dad of honor."
[07:14] So, you said that I poo pooed this honor.
[07:18] All I did was ask questions about what kind of rigor was in the nominating process.
[07:22] And the answer is, well, Dominique just said I was a good dad.
[07:26] That's not that's not a process.
[07:28] So many great dads that we could have nominated.
[07:30] Poppy A mean Greg Cody and rest assured all of them will
[07:35] be honored at some point as I try to grift off their social media followings to grow a concept that is still very young.
[07:41] And I mean when I heard that Tuesday I've never been to Las Rosas, but when I heard that on on Tuesday nights.
[07:48] Why is that funny?
[07:49] Well, because you've said it wrong twice now.
[07:52] Las Rosas.
[07:53] Yes.
[07:55] You said it right this time.
[07:57] The first two times you said it incorrectly.
[07:57] All right.
[07:58] Well, don't be afraid to tell me how to pronounce it.
[08:00] Las Rosas.
[08:01] All right, there you Now I know.
[08:01] Yes.
[08:02] And once I heard that they do they do dad rock on Tuesdays.
[08:06] I mean, come on.
[08:07] This is something I got to go to.
[08:07] Well, they had their biggest Tuesday ever last week.
[08:11] Uh because the World Cup is in town and so this is going to be a bit of a comedown, I guess.
[08:15] The sheer panic when all these people and killed started showing up and realizing that my my partner because I was traveling abroad didn't have nearly enough Rod Stewart.
[08:23] Yeah.
[08:34] is back.
[08:36] The beautiful game is on a roll and we'll have an eye on every shouting magister.
[08:42] No need to back down.
[08:46] Just park the bus.
[08:49] Stop the attack.
[08:52] Will the hand of God put your header back on track?
[08:53] Football is back and B is flying through the air.
[09:04] Ronaldo's here for one last prayer.
[09:08] Will Messi come out to play or is it victory for the USA?
[09:18] It's corner kicks when the box is packed.
[09:20] That's how you know that football is back, Jack.
[09:27] Let me hear you say,
[09:32] "Football is back, Jack.
[09:36] The time is here.
[09:36] Open the gates.
[09:36] The long wait is
[09:39] Over, so we'll yell, let's go.
[09:42] No need to back down.
[09:45] Just strike the ball.
[09:45] Start the attack.
[09:49] If you say this game's the best, I'll say again.
[09:52] Football is back.
[10:11] Football is back, Jack.
[10:19] Start of the day.
[10:41] This is from last week tonight.
[10:43] I found it shocking.
[10:43] I did not know this.
[10:46] Hogs and cows kill more people, humans, per year than sharks.
[10:53] Are you guys surprised by that?
[10:56] You just found out about this?
[10:57] Uh, put it on the poll at leard show.
[10:59] Are you surprised that hogs and cows kill more people per year than sharks?
[11:04] Yes, I just found out about this.
[11:05] I find that statistic shocking.
[11:07] Not shocking at all.
[11:07] Number one, most shark attacks do not end in fatalities because sharks don't liking like eating humans.
[11:13] They take a bite, a nibble.
[11:15] Yeah, but cows and hogs don't like eating humans either.
[11:17] Well, hogs.
[11:17] Hold on now.
[11:19] I don't know about hogs.
[11:21] They've developed a taste.
[11:23] I'm on this crocodile algo.
[11:23] Have you seen like all these attacks with crocodiles, especially in Mexico, dragging people into the ocean?
[11:28] Bad stuff.
[11:30] Into the ocean.
[11:31] Yeah, saltwater crocs.
[11:32] You seen that classic one with that old guy where he tries to put a shirt over him and tries to wrestle him?
[11:37] Yeah, we did that.
[11:37] We did that a lot on a golf course.
[11:38] We did We played that a lot on Highly Questionable.
[11:40] We played a
[11:41] lot of questionable videos on Highly Questionable.
[11:43] We had a dancing party Spider-Man who was doing a backflip and fell on his face.
[11:47] Oh, I love that.
[11:48] Yeah.
[11:48] But we learned later that he died during during that and we shouldn't have we shouldn't have been airing any of that.
[11:54] Uh I do find it surprising.
[11:58] I'm sorry that Amin is incapable of being surprised.
[12:00] Wasn't scared at all of Japan yesterday.
[12:02] Wasn't scared for any reason as a big Brazil guy.
[12:04] I'm a learned man.
[12:08] I'm sorry.
[12:09] We will talk about the World Cup uh later in the show.
[12:11] Uh Mike Ryan is doing the morally abhorrent show.
[12:14] It'll be in the post game, but I want to talk about some of the things happening locally.
[12:19] The Marlins continue to get buried and they are playing exceptional baseball now.
[12:23] They're beating Colorado, but they've been beating a lot of good teams for a while now.
[12:26] I I think it's real because they started slowly, but I can't believe they're five games over 500 and they're getting nothing from the ace of their staff.
[12:36] The ace of their staff is is got an erra of close to four and a
[12:43] half and gets pelted pretty good.
[12:45] And I would have thought that for them to good for them to be good, they would have needed Sandy to be uh good, but he has not been.
[12:52] He has been incredibly average.
[12:54] In fact, I would say he's been kind of below average.
[12:57] So for the total season, maybe.
[12:59] But in the month of June, Sandy Alcantra just became the third pitcher in Marl's history to go 6 and0.
[13:03] Okay, but you know that's like what are his numbers?
[13:05] That's.
[13:06] That's.
[13:08] I mean, he won YESTERDAY 10-7.
[13:10] HE GAVE UP HE GAVE UP A BUNCH OF RUNS IN FIVE INNINGS,
[13:12] but he goes deep enough into the game to put his team in position to win.
[13:15] I mean, I can look at back at the starts if you'd like me to, but yes, his RA is not where you'd like it to be.
[13:22] There were three or four terrible starts after Dan cursed him.
[13:24] And then since then, he's been one of the the solid pitchers across baseball.
[13:28] They also have a starting pitcher who's the only pitcher without a loss this year.
[13:34] Let's just all agree that a solid counter punch to Alcantra has not been that good this this season is he's 6 and0 in the month of June.
[13:41] That's a solid counter punch.
[13:44] I would say generally speaking, wins are not a great stat for a pitcher.
[13:49] I remember when Rick Heling had 20 wins one season with an RA of five.
[13:53] Like it's it's just not a great stat.
[13:56] A counter punch to you, Jeremy.
[13:57] What do you got?
[13:57] Like like the team is six and0.
[14:00] Alantra, I know he gets credit for it, but again, they scored 10 runs last night.
[14:03] He got credit for the win.
[14:05] That doesn't mean he was good.
[14:05] Okay, so the previous five starts, seven innings, three runs.
[14:07] Seven innings, one run.
[14:08] Eight innings, three runs.
[14:10] Six innings, two runs.
[14:10] Six and two/3 and one run.
[14:12] So sorry last night's start WASN'T PERFECT IN COLORADO.
[14:14] BAM.
[14:16] HOW BAD MUST YOUR ERA have been for you to put up those numbers and still have an RA of 4.2?
[14:23] Bam.
[14:24] Uh, the Panthers and the Heat as well are No, no, I'm not done yet with the Marlins, but the Panthers and the Heat are doing the thing that we love the most, right?
[14:30] The transactions.
[14:32] And, uh, while I'll circle back on the Marlins because I do want to talk about what they're doing.
[14:39] Uh yesterday the Panthers did something that is I'm guessing very
[14:45] popular here locally as they become more and more hateable.
[14:51] Uh Radco Gutas is a goon.
[14:51] He's a goon and Zaz admires him as a goon.
[15:00] Uh finds him incredibly honorable as a goon.
[15:03] And this is very popular for uh the the the Panther fan.
[15:06] Correct.
[15:08] Th this is one of this is legitimately one of the most honorable players in all of sports and and I I'll explain why.
[15:15] Okay, in a vacuum down here we obviously love Ratcoas and I think there's a part of the Panther fan like for me as much as we love Ratcoas he did not win either Stanley Cup with this team.
[15:26] So it kind of feels like man we want you to be part of this.
[15:28] We love you so much.
[15:33] So, the the chance that he's about to resign with the Panthers and we'll know before tomorrow because they traded for the rights to negotiate with him.
[15:37] You got to figure they're going to get it done if they made that trade.
[15:43] But anyway, the part about him being honorable, people look at Rat Goon, it's like that dude's
[15:47] a goon, that dude's a thug, he's a dirty player, whatever it is.
[15:54] Last year he took out, was it Austin Matthews?
[15:56] I believe that he it was a it was a it was a dirty need and knee hit.
[16:00] All right.
[16:00] He knew it was dirty though.
[16:01] He knew it was dirty.
[16:04] There's no way to defend it.
[16:06] It ended Austin Matthews season late in the season.
[16:08] Okay, fine.
[16:08] Later on in the year when Anaheim played Toronto for the second and final time in the season, obviously the Maple Leafs are going to want some payback.
[16:18] But here was the problem.
[16:18] Radco Gudis was injured.
[16:20] He had not been playing.
[16:23] He wasn't cleared to play, matter of fact.
[16:25] But he told his coach, "I'm playing tonight."
[16:27] So he suited up and the reason he suited up was because right after puck he started the game.
[16:33] Now he is the captain of the Ducks.
[16:33] He started the game and right after puck drop he knew I got to answer the bell here.
[16:40] I'm going to take my medicine.
[16:42] I need to fight the guy who is going to defend Austin
[16:49] Matthews and what I did to him.
[16:51] And not only did Ratcoas answer the bell, he didn't throw a single punch.
[16:54] So he didn't fight or answer the bell.
[16:56] He just wandered out there just to take the beating.
[16:59] Yeah.
[16:59] Is that I mean, is that not the most honorable thing you could do?
[17:03] We should have spent an entire show on the asskicking he took.
[17:06] He did.
[17:06] He took a beating.
[17:07] Uh Roy, I know hockey players have their own rules for nobility, but that's one that I hadn't heard of a whole lot where a guy goes out.
[17:14] How uncommon is that for a guy to go out
[17:17] Well, it is uncommon to go out injured when you're not supposed to be playing.
[17:21] But to go out to a fight and not swing because your only role in that fight is for your face to get turned to hamburger.
[17:29] Yeah.
[17:29] Uh he did the right thing.
[17:30] Absolutely did the right thing.
[17:32] The unwritten rules call for him to go out there and fight even though he was injured and didn't really play in the playoffs because of that injury.
[17:38] But yeah, he did the right thing.
[17:39] Not throwing a punch is the odd thing.
[17:41] You you often see if a guy does something to a team, the next time they play, someone's going to drop gloves with him.
[17:48] But it's the I'm going to just take the beating here.
[17:49] That's the rare.
[17:50] We should give a tip of the cap to AJ Greer, who is also beloved by Panther fans.
[17:54] This is a rare trade where a fan favorite goes and a fan favorite comes back.
[17:58] Radco can help this team a little bit more.
[18:00] Even though AJ Greer was excellent in his role, I think he's probably easier to replace.
[18:04] We got pretty thin along those those blue liners last year.
[18:07] And I know that the Panthers were actually, you know, seeing if they could acquire Ratco last trade deadline.
[18:14] Like that was that was something that was out there.
[18:17] They were never going to be able to keep AJ Greer.
[18:18] He just had 17 goals.
[18:21] He's going to be able to sign a deal that's going to pay him more than the Panthers are willing to pay him.
[18:25] So you were always going to lose AJ Greer.
[18:26] But now while losing AJ Greer, you've afforded yourself the opportunity to solely negotiate with Gutas.
[18:32] So I it it's exciting if they can work it out.
[18:35] The AJ Greer replacement is gone in Hathaway.
[18:37] They got him in the Flyers deal.
[18:38] He's a solid uh penalty killer.
[18:40] Uh so he's a big guy.
[18:44] He'll basically do the same role as AJ Greer in this lineup.
[18:47] And for those who forgot, AJ Greer is
[18:49] the one who I saw get a haircut at Elbow Room after they won.
[18:53] Uh just to be clear though, the Panthers are actively trying to be the most hated team in the league, right?
[18:59] It's what they're going for.
[19:01] You get both Kachchucks and then you do this.
[19:03] you're going for.
[19:03] We want everyone in this league to totally despise us.
[19:05] Correct.
[19:08] Yeah.
[19:08] Basically the entire second line between the Kachchucks and Sam Bennett.
[19:12] You got Brad Marshan.
[19:12] Now you got Radco Gutas.
[19:14] Yeah.
[19:14] Everybody's going to hate.
[19:15] Yeah.
[19:15] I think we're we've already surpassed critical mass with the acquisition acquisition of Brady Kachchuck.
[19:19] So yeah, Radco being here.
[19:22] What a team.
[19:22] You can't be more hated than the most hated.
[19:24] I'm I'm debating season tickets.
[19:24] My son asked was like, "Hey, do you want after they traded for Brady, he was like, "Let's get season tickets."
[19:30] Like, you know what? Maybe we will.
[19:30] Gotta see what we do with goalender.
[19:35] But this is entering this season the most loaded Florida Panthers team of all time.
[19:41] Well, they figured out half of the goalending situ goending sit Yeah.
[19:45] Akira Schmid who they got from Vegas and that goending situation in the regular season last year was awful.
[19:49] But they got
[19:51] reliable backup so good on them.
[19:53] I'm sorry, Zaz. Do you think you can just walk up to the box office?
[19:56] Two season tickets, please.
[19:57] Maybe.
[19:58] I'm pretty sure they've been sold out on season tickets.
[20:00] No, no, no. I see ads all the time on my al my algorithm is two things these days.
[20:04] All right. Number one, you know, it's boobs.
[20:05] And number two, a lot of hockey.
[20:07] All right. And I do see ads for like season memberships.
[20:11] Zaz, I keep getting emails from the Boston Celtics for season ticket, but it's like a waiting list.
[20:14] They want you to put down a deposit and then they hold your money and then years from now when it comes up then you can get the season tickets.
[20:22] No, no, no, no, no. I I I expect to be able to get on the phone with someone and for them to offer me up season tickets.
[20:27] Maybe even at a discount.
[20:29] I don't know. We'll see.
[20:30] You probably should have some uh clout based on being a local broadcasting legend.
[20:36] I mean, why are you making faces when I say your eyebrows just moved in ways I've never seen them move?
[20:40] I thought there were caterpillars on your forehead.
[20:42] Like, why why are you making faces when I say he's a local broadcasting legend?
[20:46] He is.
[20:49] Just the idea that he has clout like, uh, do you know who this is?
[20:50] This is the
[20:52] Jonathan Zaslo, the dad of honor.
[20:56] Uh, Chris Cody just whispered in my ear.
[20:58] I wasn't able to hear anything Amin said because he said Jeremy is still ranting about Sandy.
[21:04] So in the four bad starts he's thrown 27 and two/3 innings to an 8.46 ERA.
[21:09] But in the 13 other starts outside of the ones where you cursed him, it's 88 innings to a 2.86 RA.
[21:15] Can I ask you something?
[21:15] Of those four really bad starts, did he win any of those games?
[21:19] Yeah, one of them.
[21:20] That's kind of the point.
[21:21] No, the one last night.
[21:21] That's it.
[21:22] All the other ones were the losses.
[21:23] Wait a second.
[21:23] Wins count now?
[21:24] This round of Jeremy.
[21:25] NO, BUT THAT'S THE POINT.
[21:25] IT'S OBVIOUSLY ME.
[21:28] I'm obviously right.
[21:30] His RA in May was 7.39.
[21:33] That's cute.
[21:34] His ERA is 3.3 in the month of June.
[21:37] He's got a 4.2 RA overall.
[21:37] He's got nine wins.
[21:39] He's 6 and0 this month.
[21:39] The last guy to do it was Jose.
[21:42] This is like This is like World Cup PKs right now.
[21:44] He scores and he scores and he misses and he misses.
[21:46] I'm holding on.
[21:48] Yeah, they're going to make it uh very difficult the way that they're playing
[21:54] for this team to do the unpopular thing of trading Sandy here as everyone assumes that they will because they're paying him so much more than they are paying everybody else.
[22:05] For the entire last 18 months, all I've heard is that they are going to for sure trade Sandy.
[22:10] he will have value.
[22:13] And I don't know if you can the way that they're playing because this doesn't seem like a mirage.
[22:19] They started slow, but over the last two months, they're beating a lot of good teams.
[22:26] They went to Philadelphia and got their ass kicked a couple of times in the first two games of that series, but other than that, Zaz, like they're dragging people.
[22:34] They are they are winning almost every series that they play.
[22:38] St. Louis was lucky to get one against them.
[22:40] And every time they're going on the road, they're beating people up.
[22:45] Like this is this is not a mirage.
[22:47] This is a young cheap team that is going to get better over the course of the season.
[22:52] Well, and I I was looking the other day
[22:54] at the standings.
[22:56] They have the second most home wins in all of baseball, I believe.
[22:59] So, they're winning some games on the road like you said, but they're really good at home.
[23:03] They have the most wins in baseball at home.
[23:05] Like, they have I thought the Yankee I thought the Rays do, but okay.
[23:07] The It was the most wins in baseball at home when they left for the road.
[23:10] Sandy Alcont Contra leads baseball in innings pitched.
[23:13] So that that's valuable one way or another.
[23:15] And that's especially valuable because they've been doing this without multiple starting pitchers.
[23:21] Jansen Junk got hurt.
[23:23] Robbie Snelling got hurt.
[23:23] Uh Yuri Perez was out.
[23:26] He's only made one start back.
[23:26] The fact that they've been doing this, I mean, if you look at the stats across baseball, they have more runs scored than the Rays.
[23:32] They have more hits than the Braves.
[23:33] They've got a better on base percentage than the Yankees, more doubles than the Dodgers, more stolen bases than anybody.
[23:38] They're top five in the National League in RA hits, runs allowed.
[23:42] Their bullpen's top five in RA and that's better than Mason Miller's Padres's.
[23:48] And by the way, I'm not the only one who thinks that this is special.
[23:51] Mr. Marlin's son himself, Griffin Conine, who hit a home
[23:55] run in the third deck yesterday against Colorado, had this to say.
[24:00] 19 wins this month that ties a franchise record.
[24:02] What comes to mind when I tell you that?
[24:05] that comes to mind is the the 03 team, you know, the 03 team, the 97 team.
[24:11] Um, I think we're uh obviously a lot of work to do to get to that caliber, but uh we're putting together some really good uh stretches here, so it's fun to be a part of.
[24:18] Capitulate, the 03 team uh traded for his father, brought him back popularly, and I saw that you guys were behaving awkwardly around him uh this weekend in a funeral setting around Mr. Marlin.
[24:34] Uh, all I told the people I was with when Jeff Conine came over and we were talking to him, I just said to a whole bunch of people who didn't know who he was, uh, that's Mr. Marlin.
[24:44] And then they asked, uh, they asked some questions and I said, he played for nine teams.
[24:47] Uh, Mr. Marlin played for nine teams, but it's his actual nickname.
[24:51] His nick, he played for the Reds and the Orioles.
[24:53] So, you mocked him right in front of me.
[24:54] He played Yeah.
[24:54] Well, I do that a lot.
[24:56] Yes, I've done that since since 90 93.
[24:59] I've done that.
[24:59] Thanks a lot, Dan.
[24:59] Never heard that intro from you.
[25:04] Uh, how how did you guys uh like Jeremy hogged him?
[25:07] What?
[25:07] I mean, he like what took all his time from me.
[25:10] Oh, okay.
[25:10] Yeah, I was having a nice conversation with Jeff Conine, you know, and Roy and I were like, oh, that's I'd like to be part of that conversation.
[25:17] So, Roy and I do what you do.
[25:19] You just like, you know, just go over, hey, Jeremy could just even though I had already said hello to Jeremy, I said hello to Jeremy a second time just to establish it with Jeff Conine.
[25:26] It's much more awkward than he's describing.
[25:29] got a good handshake in with Niner and dominated it.
[25:32] You know, you can't win that handshake.
[25:33] You just need to survive it and I did.
[25:35] It's a very firm handshake.
[25:37] Even as Dan warned me, this guy gives a firm handshake and then he kind of gripped and I I I had to do the Donald Trump uh President Xi thing where we just pull him in.
[25:45] Yeah.
[25:45] Uhhuh.
[25:45] Yeah.
[25:45] No, no, it's mine.
[25:47] So Roy and I then stood there for about 45 seconds waiting for Jeremy to like open the door of like, hey, this is now a four-person conversation.
[25:53] This was a two-person conversation and now it's
[25:56] four. But no, Jeremy played defense and
[25:58] Roy and I awkwardly looked at the the we
[26:01] were just like, "Wow, these ceilings are
[26:02] really high. This is a nice house."
[26:03] That's not at all what happened.
[26:04] I did not box.
[26:05] We walked away.
[26:06] No, this is what happened.
[26:07] I'm standing and talking to
[26:08] Roy. What happened, Roy?
[26:10] Okay.
[26:10] Jeremy boxes out, man.
[26:11] That's not what happened.
[26:12] Getting a rebound over here.
[26:14] I wasn't aware there was a mixer. I
[26:16] headed straight to the cemetery.
[26:18] No, this was Shiva. It's called Shiva.
[26:19] Shiver yesterday.
[26:21] Uh, his handshake. He's a raetball
[26:23] champion. like his handshake. Playing
[26:25] raetball against him must be horrifying.
[26:27] Like if you're not a professional
[26:28] raetball player because uh he's he's
[26:31] uncommonly strong. Uh but uh Jeremy, go
[26:34] ahead and tell your truth here as Roy
[26:36] and and Chris say you didn't allow uh
[26:40] them anywhere near Conine.
[26:42] So I walked up to Jeff Conine like the
[26:44] brave soul that I am. I shook his hand
[26:47] and I started chatting. We started
[26:49] having a conversation and I can then see
[26:53] a few minutes into this conversation.
[26:55] Chris and Roy as several of the other
[26:59] members of Metallark Media are laughing
[27:00] at them as they tried to dance around a
[27:04] couch because the situation were
[27:06] standing in a living room. There's a
[27:07] there's a couch.
[27:08] We tried to go around the back door and
[27:10] back door was closed.
[27:10] We're facing each other and then there's
[27:12] a couch um parallel with or
[27:15] perpendicular maybe with Jeff. So that's
[27:17] I saw them though strategically
[27:19] approaching
[27:20] trying to figure out which way do we go
[27:22] around to go shake Jeff Conine's hand.
[27:24] So I I can see them creeping up behind
[27:26] Jeff Conine and then quickly abandoned
[27:28] ship because they realize, oh no, this
[27:30] is not the direction that we need to go.
[27:31] This will be strange. We have to tap him
[27:32] on the shoulder. So then I see them walk
[27:34] around the other way and I see more
[27:36] people laughing. They they come up from
[27:37] the front. I literally physically backed
[27:40] away so that they could shake the hand
[27:43] of Jeff Conine. He goes, "Hey, hey." And
[27:46] then they walked past me to behind me
[27:50] because there was a table in the way.
[27:52] And so they're just standing behind me.
[27:54] What am I SUPPOSED TO DO? COMPLETELY
[27:56] turn around? What? Just looking up at
[27:58] the chandelier going like, "Oh, I guess
[27:59] what? I don't know what to do." They're
[28:00] just standing there. So we continued our
[28:03] conversation and they walked away
[28:05] because they didn't engage.
[28:07] I believe at one point Roy touched the
[28:08] couch and was like, "This is a nice
[28:10] couch."
[28:11] It was a nice couch.
[28:12] So you guys were just milling about. You
[28:15] were loitering around Jeremy's
[28:17] conversation with Jeff Conine and he
[28:19] never welcomed you and you still accuse
[28:22] him today of hogging Conine.
[28:24] Yeah.
[28:25] Okay. I'm glad we have established all
[28:27] of that. Um I should have mentioned this
[28:30] yesterday and I did not because we were
[28:33] asking uh help from the audience and
[28:35] assortment of uh sad places. But uh what
[28:39] happened to David and his family
[28:43] with Kira? I believe to be as cruel a
[28:46] thing as I've ever seen happen around
[28:48] someone I care about. Uh Kira Samson
[28:51] gone at the age of 28 by the rarest of
[28:54] brain cancer. A brain cancer uh that
[28:57] basically had no medical hope as soon as
[29:00] it arrived and was a total uh surprise
[29:04] uh at that age. And uh David Samson in
[29:08] her memory has been raising a great deal
[29:11] of money for research so that others may
[29:13] deal with this somewhat better because
[29:16] it has been a legitimate horror for nine
[29:20] months now. Kira fund the Kira fund is
[29:23] something that he has created in the
[29:25] event that you wish to help. A lot of
[29:27] people are giving him an outpouring
[29:31] during what feels like an exceptionally
[29:33] lonely time because uh there is not a
[29:37] way for me to explain to you properly
[29:39] the amount of cruelty involved with uh
[29:42] having this particular personality
[29:45] extinguished almost immediately upon the
[29:48] diagnosis of this which was a surprise
[29:50] from one day to the next without
[29:53] warning. So if you wish to help David
[29:55] raise money in her honor, he wants to
[29:57] keep her memory alive and he also wants
[29:59] to do uh good and important work in
[30:02] helping others who are afflicted with uh
[30:05] just this really uncommon, incredibly
[30:08] uncommon kind of brain cancer. You don't
[30:11] find it very much, never mind in young
[30:13] people. So the Kira fund is something
[30:15] that you can donate to and we will have
[30:18] uh links and information here as part of
[30:20] what it is that we're doing. Uh David
[30:23] has been in and out of his show, nothing
[30:26] personal, but has been very willful
[30:29] about somehow continuing to do uh the
[30:32] job while being at her side uh the
[30:35] entire time for nine months when she
[30:37] needed a great deal of care and help.
[30:39] So, if you would like to help with that,
[30:41] uh please do so. And forgive me again
[30:44] for you know just sort of stumbling out
[30:46] of that into the local topics of the day
[30:50] uh to keep the show moving because as he
[30:52] says all the time uh the show must go
[30:55] on. It must always go on. So uh help if
[30:58] you can uh because he's doing good work
[31:00] in her memory. Uh we're going to send uh
[31:03] Jeremy out in a second here to the
[31:05] whiteboard to take us through some of
[31:07] the NBA movement of the last couple of
[31:09] days. And Winorse is saying on ESPN
[31:12] right now, LeBron's uh Golden State's
[31:14] trying to get him today. That's a today
[31:17] thing. And that would be fairly seismic.
[31:20] Golden State uh trying as hard as they
[31:23] can to make Steph Curry's last few years
[31:26] and Steph Curry's last couple of years
[31:28] something that is now LeBron. Jason,
[31:30] the old boys.
[31:33] They're trying to compete against the
[31:35] youngest teams in the league, which are
[31:37] also the best teams in the league in the
[31:39] conference with some of the oldest
[31:41] players in the league. It's Al Horford.
[31:43] It's not just LeBron James is the oldest
[31:45] player in the league. Do you know how
[31:46] old you have to be to be teammates with
[31:48] Al Horford and Al Horford is younger
[31:50] than you? Like, that's that's an old
[31:53] basketball team with Draymond Green and
[31:55] Steph Curry. That sport is breaking its
[31:57] young players. You're asking a lot, but
[31:59] that team is just going to try and be
[32:00] ready for the playoffs. And I'd like to
[32:02] see LeBron and Steph play together. Is
[32:05] LeBron going to indeed wave his no trade
[32:07] and what he wants, which is guaranteed
[32:10] maximum money cuz he's not going to get
[32:12] maximum money there. Correct.
[32:13] Well, he's a free agent, so forget about
[32:15] no trade, like legit straightup free
[32:17] agent. and Draymond Green opting out of
[32:21] his contract yesterday. Theoretically,
[32:24] you know, can can save them some money
[32:26] to be able to bring Draymond back at a
[32:29] lower number and also bring in LeBron at
[32:31] a much lower number than he was making
[32:34] with the Lakers. But, you know, this is
[32:37] a Warrior team. I mean, where a it's the
[32:40] Western Conference and also you look at
[32:43] the guys they would have that they're
[32:45] going to be relying on. LeBron played
[32:47] what 40 some odd games last year. Steph
[32:50] Curry played in the low 40s last year.
[32:52] Porzingis played less than 40 games last
[32:56] year. This team's going to I mean, am I
[32:59] sure this team's going to even make the
[33:00] playoffs?
[33:00] No. I mean, I think that's a very valid
[33:03] concern, especially when we look at
[33:04] basketball how it's been the last three
[33:06] or four years. It seems there's an
[33:08] emphasis on depth. like we have nine ten
[33:10] guys and they're all pretty good and
[33:13] they're young and they're athletic and
[33:14] they can run up and down but obviously
[33:16] in the in the half court can also
[33:18] execute and so you look at that Warriors
[33:20] team and the first thing you wonder
[33:21] about is hey how are you guys going to
[33:23] get through this 82 right I mean we
[33:25] talked about it with this Warriors team
[33:26] this season right are you guys going to
[33:28] get through the 82 and ultimately they
[33:29] didn't they had a catastrophic injury to
[33:31] Jimmy Steph got
[33:33] mentioned Jimmy was not going to be back
[33:34] until March
[33:35] so you already are kind of gam rambling
[33:39] a little bit by saying, "I'm going to
[33:40] get all these old guys together and our
[33:42] roster is going to be constructed where
[33:43] we don't have a whole lot of depth, but
[33:45] it's very topheavy with these older
[33:46] guys. Are we going to make it?" And then
[33:48] once we make it to that postseason, then
[33:51] maybe we've got because we've got a day
[33:53] off in between games at least and less
[33:55] travel and all that, it plays into your
[33:57] strengths, but you have to get there.
[33:59] And if you go through the playin as they
[34:00] did last year and you lose, what was all
[34:03] that for? This is why Yakol Lendberg
[34:05] when he was drafted by the Warriors the
[34:07] other night, he said he thinks he could
[34:08] be a starter on the team this year.
[34:11] Speaking of gambling and speaking of
[34:14] Jimmy, the story around him this morning
[34:17] is also pretty interesting. I keep
[34:19] making that mistake. It's the second
[34:21] time that Zaz has corrected me on the no
[34:24] trade clause of LeBron because LeBron
[34:26] being a free agent to me is wildly
[34:28] confusing. Like, it's just not something
[34:30] I've I've been familiar with very often.
[34:33] Dan, however embarrassed you are about
[34:34] that mistake, it pales in comparison to
[34:36] Zaz was saying he's a free agent and he
[34:38] starts talking about LeBron and Mike
[34:40] sits behind me and he says, "Is this the
[34:41] first time he's ever been a free agent?"
[34:42] And I said, I looked at him. I said,
[34:44] "Mike."
[34:44] And I'm like, "Yeah, no, there was that
[34:46] one other time. I forgot."
[34:48] No, no, but what what it is the first
[34:49] time is the first time that there was a
[34:52] season and it was the last year of his
[34:55] deal. That's never happened before.
[34:57] Yeah. He opted out and also a little
[34:59] confused because he actually traded for
[35:01] LeBron, but no, that's on me. It was
[35:03] famously that one time where he was a
[35:04] free agent and he sat across Jim Gray TV
[35:06] show.
[35:07] It slipped my mind.
[35:09] But the Jimmy story this morning that
[35:11] has emerged, what's fair and what's not
[35:13] fair about best friend adjacent being
[35:16] indicted as part of this uh Malik
[35:18] Beasley uh very large uh and sprawling
[35:23] FBI investigation that is uh at the
[35:27] heart of something that I find
[35:29] interesting all the time. Right. Many of
[35:31] the athletes in sports, they're kind of
[35:34] competition aholics. Okay? So, I'm
[35:36] rarely surprised when they end up in
[35:39] gambling situations because they're
[35:41] always gambling on planes. They're all
[35:43] they need action and the time between
[35:46] games.
[35:47] There's a lot of time for them to
[35:49] compete. So, I actually think that
[35:51] athletes are more likely to end up in
[35:54] gambling situations than the average
[35:56] person just because they're
[35:58] competitions. But what's fair and not
[36:00] fair about uh this is a very close
[36:03] friend of Jimmy's who's getting ins
[36:04] snared in this indictment,
[36:06] right? And I think what's fair is to
[36:08] say, "Hey, who is this guy Ernie? This
[36:10] is one of Jimmy's closest friends." It's
[36:13] not fair to involve Jimmy by virtue of
[36:15] that to rope him in because he hasn't
[36:17] been named. Obviously, there's a lot of
[36:19] documents, court documents out there.
[36:20] They're naming names clearly in this
[36:22] thing. Jimmy's not implicated. So I
[36:24] think introducing this character as a
[36:27] close confidant Jimmy Butler that should
[36:29] be the end of all references to Jimmy
[36:31] Butler as we talk about this.
[36:32] But you could understand people are
[36:33] going to say okay if this guy Ernie is
[36:36] who who was indicted yesterday alongside
[36:39] the names of the likes of Malik Beasley
[36:42] and Ed Davis. We're talking current and
[36:44] former players.
[36:46] You could understand the suspicion that
[36:48] people who if you're tight with Jimmy
[36:51] Butler like there was nothing ever going
[36:54] on there like like you could at least
[36:55] think about that.
[36:56] Yeah. So what you're telling me is the
[36:58] Eastern District of New York was like
[36:59] doing an investigation like this guy's
[37:01] best friend with Jimmy Butler. I'm sure
[37:03] he's fine.
[37:03] Like the idea that us sitting here or we
[37:06] seeing something that the feds
[37:08] you're saying they've looked into it.
[37:09] It stands the reason. No. And and to me
[37:12] to imply anything that you again I've
[37:16] had this conversation with Dan before
[37:17] about a a litany of topics. If it's just
[37:20] us sitting on a couch at a barber shop
[37:22] or at a bar or whatever, have at it.
[37:24] I think that's what I'm talking about.
[37:25] If you're if you're a listener, have at
[37:26] it, right? But we work in this space
[37:30] professionally.
[37:30] No, you're right. It is unfair. It is
[37:32] unfair. I'm talking about that where
[37:34] random fans are like, "hm, I wonder, you
[37:38] know, if anything happened with Jimmy."
[37:40] Like I I think that suspicion is
[37:42] reasonable, but you're right. It's
[37:43] unfair.
[37:44] It's comment section conjecture, though.
[37:47] I If you're thinking about it, if you're
[37:49] thinking about it on as an avatar
[37:52] on social media, you got to think the
[37:54] feds have looked into it,
[37:56] especially because they're looking to
[37:58] make a splash. when they put Terry
[38:00] Rosier in uh shackles uh and they're
[38:04] looking for NBA players and names
[38:07] everywhere to bring attention to what it
[38:10] is that we're talking about here. Uh
[38:12] you see some of these videos yesterday,
[38:14] you know, every time this stuff happens
[38:15] like when Terry Roier was arrested,
[38:18] you'll get like the Twitter detectives
[38:20] and they'll put the V, oh, what happened
[38:22] here, Terry Roier? You see some of those
[38:24] videos yesterday with Malik Beasley?
[38:26] Dan, they look it looks so bad what he's
[38:28] doing out there. A mean you've seen,
[38:30] right?
[38:30] Yeah. What makes it bad is the
[38:32] corresponding text messages. That's the
[38:34] bad part, right? I don't know if you saw
[38:36] the one where it's like, oh, he even let
[38:38] out a sigh of relief afterward.
[38:39] And you could see in the video he to
[38:41] he's totally relieved. Malip Beasley
[38:43] when he grabs a meaningless rebound with
[38:46] 3/10en of a second remaining in the
[38:48] game. He is literally breathing out a
[38:51] sigh of relief. It the video is so bad
[38:53] some of these clips. Let's go out to
[38:55] Jeremy who is at the white board who's
[38:57] going to update us on an assortment. We
[38:59] haven't even talked about John Morant.
[39:00] Think about this. Okay, we're talking
[39:03] about young teams. That me that Memphis
[39:05] team with Jiren Jackson and John Morant
[39:08] and Desmond Bane, all of them at the
[39:10] time under 25 years old. That was a two
[39:13] seed a couple of years in a row. That
[39:14] team won 50 plus games. That was a good
[39:17] team. And all of that imploded. And
[39:19] you've got uh John Morant. a legitimate
[39:22] conversation was had around him as face
[39:24] of the league being traded for a bad
[39:26] contract like being traded for another
[39:28] bad contract for no picks. And it's not
[39:31] just because of the firearm stuff, the
[39:33] off-c court stuff. It's not even just
[39:35] because he's a bad three-point shooter.
[39:37] It's at least in part because he used to
[39:39] be somebody who got all his shots at the
[39:40] rim and you need athleticism to do that.
[39:43] It's hard to do that and guys don't want
[39:45] to do that after a while. It's the same
[39:46] reason that in baseball the power
[39:48] hitters like uh A-Rod stop stealing
[39:50] bases. it doesn't end up being worth it
[39:52] to injure yourself trying to steal one
[39:54] base when you're good at getting all
[39:55] four. John Mor um you know doesn't do
[39:59] much around the rim anymore and hasn't
[40:01] played in a while. But let's go out to
[40:02] Jeremy here uh because we've got we've
[40:05] got uh chaos approaching. Correct. Are
[40:07] we not going to have more and more
[40:09] breaking news over the course of today
[40:11] with an assortment of transactions?
[40:13] Where are we with this Jeremy?
[40:14] That's the thought process Dan. like
[40:15] LeBron James. Zaz just mentioned that
[40:18] Brian Winhorse brought up the idea of
[40:20] LeBron James being on the move today.
[40:22] So, you've already brought up LeBron.
[40:24] There's a few Laker guys here. Austin
[40:26] Reeves is staying with the Los Angeles
[40:27] Lakers. We know that the reports have
[40:29] been that Marcus Smart will likely leave
[40:31] the Lakers. Where does this leave
[40:32] LeBron? Could he be headed to the
[40:34] Warriors potentially alongside Anthony
[40:36] Davis? That was the initial report. But
[40:39] how would the Warriors be able to
[40:41] acquire Anthony Davis without moving
[40:43] Jimmy Butler? That's what I'm trying to
[40:45] figure out because ultimately he's been
[40:48] reassured according to all of the
[40:50] reporters there locally that he's going
[40:51] to stay in Golden State. That's also
[40:52] what his agent Bernie Lee said. Chrisaps
[40:55] Porzingis went back to the Golden State
[40:57] Warriors 2 years $40 million. The
[40:59] interesting part of that is it means
[41:01] that the MLE is not fully available to
[41:04] the Warriors to potentially sign LeBron
[41:06] James. The MLE is not available in full
[41:10] either because of the Andrew Wigan
[41:12] signing for the Miami Heat. So, what
[41:14] could that mean in their pursuit of
[41:15] LeBron James?
[41:16] The writing is so small.
[41:17] Is all of this This is big writing, Dan.
[41:20] There's a lot to handle. You can read
[41:21] it. I'm looking directly at the screen
[41:24] that is on a monitor here. There is no
[41:26] reason to undermine me this way.
[41:27] We don't have to see Jeremy. We can zoom
[41:29] in on the board a little bit more. His
[41:31] face is irrelevant.
[41:32] NBA off season. I can read that part.
[41:34] Robert Williams is an interesting piece
[41:36] in all of this. It seems as though he's
[41:38] probably going to end up leaving the
[41:40] Portland Trailblazers as John Morant
[41:42] joins the Blazers. Could they also be in
[41:45] pursuit of Jaylen Brown? That's the
[41:47] thing that we want to know. Drew Holiday
[41:49] now a piece that could be available
[41:51] because he's under a huge contract over
[41:53] there in Portland, but they have Damen
[41:55] Lillard, they have Scoot Henderson. How
[41:57] do they want to maneuver what things are
[41:59] looking like there? You see obviously
[42:01] Jiannis Takmpo and Bobby Portoris
[42:03] joining the Miami Heat. But if the Heat
[42:04] are trying to create more space, could
[42:06] Bobby Portoris actually be sent
[42:07] somewhere else to try to create more
[42:09] money? I don't believe that'll be the
[42:10] case. I believe Bobby Portoris will be a
[42:12] member of the Miami Heat. But these are
[42:13] the questions you have to ask when
[42:15] trades aren't formally completed. We saw
[42:17] the exchange of LaMelo Ball and Nas Reed
[42:19] Jaylen Duran is now a question. Could he
[42:21] be headed to the Lakers potential
[42:23] signing trade?
[42:23] First, you are alienating both the video
[42:26] and the audio audience now. It's It's
[42:29] really aggressive that what you've
[42:32] written there is really small. Let's do
[42:34] this. Hold on a second. Jeremy's shaking
[42:35] his head and he's furious. Go ahead and
[42:38] tell me, Zaz, second row at the bottom.
[42:41] Put up on the screen, please. Put up on
[42:43] the screen. Second row on the bottom.
[42:45] What does that say at the bottom there?
[42:47] Those two names at the bottom. Don't
[42:49] don't focus in. Now, I can see what it
[42:51] says, but what does it say down there at
[42:54] the just across the bottom of the
[42:55] screen? What does that say?
[42:57] Sheesh.
[42:59] I think. Is that a kaminga on the left?
[43:01] Maybe.
[43:02] That is a kaminga on the left.
[43:03] Okay. All right.
[43:04] Oh, I thought that was a kawaii. I
[43:05] thought that was a kawaii on the left.
[43:07] That's an obvious kawaii right here.
[43:09] No, the left. Look, you tell me. I mean,
[43:11] the lower leftand corner. If I say
[43:13] that's Kaminger Kawawaii, which are you
[43:15] guessing?
[43:15] Klay Thompson. What about
[43:17] Klay Thompson is right here. And that
[43:19] that is a question. Where will Klay
[43:20] Thompson ultimately end up? Does he get
[43:22] bought out by Dallas or is he a
[43:24] potential trade candidate as well with
[43:26] his contract sitting I believe at about
[43:27] $16 million. And speaking of shooters
[43:29] sitting at $16 million, Max Strus is an
[43:32] interesting one because Brian Winhorse
[43:33] brought up that he could potentially be
[43:34] on the move. Max Stru Gabe Vincent also
[43:36] a free agent. Could we see those two
[43:38] guys reuniting here in Miami
[43:41] potentially? Speaking of Miami, Bradley
[43:43] Beal now available as a free agent. Tim
[43:44] Hardway Jr. as well. Mike Connley Jr. a
[43:46] couple of juniors cutting it up. They're
[43:48] potentially guys that could end up in
[43:51] Miami. So, lots of things happening
[43:54] today. Dan O. Okay, back to you.
[43:56] Under Draymond Green, is that Jir
[43:58] Nelson? What is What is that? What is
[44:00] the name of that?
[44:00] That's Jir Nelson,
[44:03] [ __ ]
[44:05] You can't. The type is too small. The
[44:09] type is too small. The what you've
[44:11] written there is too small and your
[44:13] handwriting is not great.
[44:14] What about Duncan Robinson and Norman
[44:16] Powell? These guys become really
[44:18] interesting pieces of the conversation
[44:19] because we don't know where Norman
[44:20] Powell is headed. The rumor had been the
[44:22] Detroit Pistons, but they signed Kevin
[44:24] Herder. They also traded for Isaiah Joe.
[44:26] So, is that no longer an option? Could
[44:28] it be the Chicago Bulls? That was
[44:29] something rumored yesterday. But when it
[44:31] comes to the Pistons, Duncan Robinson,
[44:33] potential buyout candidate, could we see
[44:34] Duncan Robinson head to Miami and have
[44:36] Duncan Robinson, Max Struce, and Gabe
[44:39] Vincent all end up in Miami? I don't
[44:40] think it happens, but wouldn't that be
[44:42] so fun?
[44:43] How do we feel about people who spell
[44:44] season?
[44:46] Yeah,
[44:46] I needed to make room on the board. What
[44:48] do you guys not understand?
[44:50] That's when you're efficient. That's
[44:51] when you're efficient with the word
[44:53] season because you put a Z in the middle
[44:56] of season. That's where you decide to be
[44:57] efficient.
[44:58] Yousef Nerkish has resigned with the
[45:00] Utah Jazz, which means Walker Kesler
[45:03] could be on the move. Another potential
[45:05] candidate for the Lakers.
[45:07] We should trade for Jimmy.
[45:11] Hear me out. We always needed to pair
[45:12] him with somebody better.
[45:14] Yeah.
[45:14] Same goes for Bam. Well, we got the guy
[45:16] that's better than both of them.
[45:17] Mhm.
[45:19] LeBron's changing teams today. That's a
[45:22] thing that's going to happen.
[45:23] Yeah.
[46:03] monthsl long joke. Uh what is the
[46:06] controversy surrounding uh your
[46:08] catchphrase list? What is the uh issue?
[46:11] It's it's big. The controversy is that
[46:14] based on quality demand, the catchphrase
[46:17] countdown has suddenly increased from a
[46:20] top 50 to a top 60.
[46:22] What?
[46:23] That's right. And it's controversial.
[46:25] Of course it is. You told us it was a
[46:27] top 50 and we told you we told you it
[46:30] was we told you it was something you
[46:32] were making up as you went along and
[46:33] that you weren't going to get the
[46:34] numbers right and now you're just
[46:35] changing it.
[46:36] He botched it to such a degree that
[46:38] there are so many good ones left that
[46:40] we're just pushing.
[46:41] I KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN THOUGH.
[46:43] That's exactly what YOU WERE SAYING.
[46:44] YOU'RE BRAIN beating me.
[46:46] How did this happen? What was the
[46:48] ruling? What did the committee get
[46:50] together and decide? How did it happen
[46:51] that it got expanded? Now, no one's
[46:53] going to complain about this because
[46:55] more more catchphrases is great, but we
[46:57] told you this was going to happen and we
[46:58] told you this was a sloppy list by you.
[47:01] The others, they all learned from me,
[47:03] right?
[47:05] No, I looked at all the the the the
[47:07] catchphrases remaining and there was
[47:09] only 14 left, but there were like 20
[47:11] something good ones. So, I'm like,
[47:13] thank you.
[47:13] Let's go.
[47:14] So, wait a minute. So, how did you do it
[47:16] though? Are there now is there now a new
[47:18] list 50 to 60 or what are you doing?
[47:21] Everything that's been head is just like
[47:22] what was 50 is now 60. There were 14
[47:25] left and now there's 24.
[47:26] SO WE'RE NOT IN THE TOP 20.
[47:28] NO, NOW WE'RE at 23 and 24.
[47:30] Top 20 OF THE COUNTDOWN AND NOW WE'RE AT
[47:32] 24.
[47:32] I'm telling you they're bangers though.
[47:33] There are just bangers left.
[47:35] There is nobody that's actually upset
[47:36] about this development. COME ON.
[47:38] YOU'VE GOT TO HONOR THE LIST THOUGH.
[47:40] I'M TELLING YOU, I GOT A PEAK. I don't
[47:41] know the exact order, but I got a peak
[47:43] of what the top 10 looks like and it is
[47:45] just banger after banger.
[47:46] Yeah. Yeti hated it. He He's against it.
[47:48] Yet he thinks that we should just make
[47:49] him live with the world he gave us.
[47:53] I mean, I asked you several times
[47:54] throughout this whole process, have you
[47:56] thought this out? Have you planned out
[47:58] the list? Do you know that there are 50?
[48:00] You You kept assuring me that you have
[48:02] it all under control.
[48:03] Driver comfort is paramount.
[48:06] Wrong. You know, part of the beauty of
[48:08] me is is a, you know, a bit of
[48:11] serendipity, a bit of
[48:26] I want to play the audio of a child who
[48:30] doesn't want to be a Mets fan and
[48:33] explains why and how that child wishes
[48:37] to be a Yankee fan in what is excellent
[48:42] New York wine.
[48:47] I want you.
[48:49] Why? Why can't you be a Mets fan?
[48:51] Cuz I don't want to be the worst.
[48:54] We're Mets fans in this house.
[48:55] I don't want to be the worst team.
[49:01] So, which team do you want to root for?
[49:04] Yankees.
[49:06] Congratulations, Jeremy. You are no
[49:08] longer the most alienating audio and
[49:10] video product we had today.
[49:11] Thank you. Uh, a couple of other things
[49:14] that I wanted to get to. I don't want to
[49:15] move too far from this John Mar thing
[49:18] uh, so quickly because you really have
[49:19] gone from the athletic team that was
[49:22] John Marant and Desmond Bane and Jiren
[49:25] Jackson to Zack Edy and Camboozer like
[49:28] the athleticism and and and you've got
[49:31] Cedric Coward who has to have the worst
[49:33] name in all of sports. Do we have a
[49:35] worse name than that anywhere in sports?
[49:37] Do we have anybody who's willing to
[49:39] nominate a name that's worse for an
[49:41] athlete than than on the back of his
[49:43] uniform? It just says coward. Like
[49:46] that's not great. That's not a great
[49:48] situation as a name. You've obviously
[49:50] got to change your name if you're Cedric
[49:52] Coward to Michael Coward.
[49:54] Mislatan.
[49:56] Uh yeah, that that that's a good one. Uh
[49:59] he's not still playing.
[50:01] No. No.
[50:02] So, and among It's a good one. It's a
[50:04] good It says Satan on the back of his
[50:07] jersey and it's a good selection from
[50:08] you.
[50:09] Chris Buitt, the kicker.
[50:12] Yeah,
[50:13] there is a guy that's playing over in
[50:14] Europe that's scoring a lot of goals,
[50:16] but his name is Charlie Kirk and I
[50:18] always get the alerts for it and it's
[50:20] interesting.
[50:21] There's a there was an Italian
[50:23] basketball player whose name was Gregor
[50:26] Fuchska. Fuchska is spelled F U C A.
[50:33] Fuchska though
[50:34] uh coward Satan instead of Satan. Uh but
[50:38] coward is you're going to have a hard
[50:40] time beating coward. Uh the World Cup
[50:42] play yesterday. A couple of different
[50:43] things I wanted to talk about. Yes, a
[50:46] great day for upsets. Uh Germany, a lot
[50:49] of people are now saying no longer a
[50:51] soccerpower. Uh and and and but the
[50:54] people who are killing there are so many
[50:56] people killing the Dutch, the
[50:58] Netherlands for playing a style that's
[51:00] different than the style that they
[51:02] always play. Like they just they went
[51:04] and got scared. They're sitting there
[51:06] playing 541 as a defensive strategy and
[51:10] they are getting crushed by the idea
[51:13] that um they didn't play to their
[51:16] identity, that they played scared in the
[51:18] World Cup. And you've heard me say
[51:20] before, I've said this for many years
[51:22] now, okay?
[51:26] The goal in that sport is so valuable
[51:28] and so hard to get that I believe
[51:31] randomness can make an appearance as a
[51:33] measurement to provide you upsets in
[51:35] these rounds. But then when you go to
[51:38] penalty kicks after that, to me, it's
[51:40] the equivalent of deciding the Super
[51:42] Bowl instead of in overtime, let's have
[51:44] the quarterbacks go out there and throw
[51:46] a ball through a swinging tire. It's no
[51:48] longer soccer. It's something that's
[51:50] fun. I like it. I like it. I mean, put
[51:52] that pressure. They missed a ton of them
[51:54] yesterday and they're missing a ton
[51:56] because there's so much pressure. You
[51:57] feel the weight of the country on your
[51:59] shoulders, but it's not a good
[52:00] measurement on who the best team is and
[52:03] it's no longer soccer when you decide it
[52:05] that way. Dan, here's the fun part or
[52:07] not the fun part, the interesting part
[52:08] of yesterday. We were talking about this
[52:10] before the show that Germany, obviously
[52:12] both Germany and Parawaii missed PK. So
[52:15] you designate your first five to take
[52:17] those five. But if it goes beyond five,
[52:19] now you got to have all right, who's
[52:20] next? Who's next? And there's a rumor
[52:22] out there. I cannot say if it's founded
[52:24] or not. There's a rumor that the German
[52:27] vet players did not want to step up and
[52:30] take that o that opportunity, that
[52:32] responsibility. And so the player who
[52:34] ends up missing it had never taken a PK
[52:36] in his professional career before. And
[52:38] so now he's put in his position because
[52:40] no one else has the balls to do it. And
[52:43] of course he misses it. he becomes a a
[52:45] scapegoat, but in reality, he's kind of
[52:47] a hero because he had the balls to step
[52:49] up.
[52:49] Keepers are doing an incredible job. The
[52:51] scouting, they're guessing right a lot
[52:53] of the time. And also the mind games.
[52:55] There's this new uh sky cam shot over
[52:58] the penalty spot that you could feel the
[53:02] frame of the goal shrinking as these
[53:04] keepers do their their pre-kick antics.
[53:07] And you kind of get why they tremble so
[53:10] much. Like the pressure in that moment
[53:12] is insane. heel was unbelievable for
[53:15] Pawawaii yesterday and you can tell why
[53:17] no German player wanted to go high. The
[53:19] one player that had the balls to go
[53:20] high, the ball is still in the air. It's
[53:23] it's an incredible look at what are the
[53:26] most pressure-packed moments in sports.
[53:29] And you know, as I'm watching this
[53:30] yesterday, and these are guys who play
[53:32] professionally in some of the greatest
[53:33] leagues and everything, but in that
[53:35] moment where it's like it's just you and
[53:37] a keeper, everyone's watching and it's
[53:40] not just the 80,000 in the stadium. It's
[53:43] Hundreds of millions of people, hundreds
[53:45] of millions, not 20 million, not 40
[53:48] million, hundreds of millions of people
[53:49] are watching you. There's a point where
[53:51] it's like, yeah, all that I'm a pro, I
[53:52] get paid to do this stuff goes out the
[53:54] window.
[53:54] Oh, but it's not that it goes out the
[53:55] window. This is what happens. And to me,
[53:58] it's an interesting part about what is
[54:00] required in terms of mental strength. We
[54:03] won't remember this at all because the
[54:04] Knicks won the series, but Stefon Castle
[54:06] kept making important free throws. And
[54:09] the the thing that I was watching at the
[54:11] end of that game with the pressure on
[54:14] Castle, a young young player, and this
[54:17] this pressure is so much larger is it's
[54:20] actually the rare time that your
[54:23] practice and training don't help you
[54:24] because they're the moments where you
[54:26] have to stop and think. the other times
[54:28] that you're playing sports, you're going
[54:30] with muscle memory, you're going with
[54:32] your training, you're not spending a lot
[54:34] of time thinking in the what you're
[54:36] doing because everything's moving so
[54:37] fast out there that there's no thought.
[54:39] But when you're standing in front of
[54:41] that keeper and you're expected to make
[54:43] the kick and you're thinking, "Oh my
[54:44] god, I've dreamt about this all my life.
[54:46] I'm now doing this for my country."
[54:48] Thought does not help these people in
[54:50] these situations. Thought hurts these
[54:52] people in these situations. And this is
[54:54] one of those times where I can
[54:56] acknowledge to Mike, the modern soccer
[54:57] fan, that this part is harder than it
[54:59] was back in my day. Because back in my
[55:01] day, let's go. Let's just I'm kicking
[55:03] your keeping. Let's see who beat. And
[55:05] now with the video scouting and the
[55:07] technology where they are, it's like
[55:09] baseball managers, right? I'm just, oh,
[55:11] it's a lefty. All right, I'm going to
[55:12] call up this guy over here to hit or
[55:14] it's so
[55:16] mathematically driven that you don't
[55:19] even know that, hey, I'm actually doing
[55:21] something that's algorithmically been
[55:23] detected and as a result, the keeper has
[55:25] this information on his side. It is
[55:27] incredibly incredibly hard and everyone
[55:30] kind of looks at, oh, but the goal is 2
[55:31] meters wide, right? How could you miss?
[55:33] But, you know, it's not easy. You'd be
[55:35] really hardressed to find a penalty kick
[55:36] shootout that takes those types of
[55:39] twists and turns where Pawai looks
[55:41] certain to be going through. All they
[55:43] have to do is put one away and they end
[55:45] up missing two and you're like, "Wow,
[55:47] Germany escaped." And then Ta sails it
[55:50] and Pawawaii just goes and buries it
[55:52] like the previous two kicks haven't
[55:54] happened before. Heel was amazing. All
[55:56] three matches when your worst match is a
[55:58] Brazilian stoppage time winner to avoid
[56:00] extra time, you got something cooking.
[56:02] And that late night match between
[56:04] Morocco and the Netherlands was as
[56:06] physical a World Cup soccer match as you
[56:08] will ever see.
[56:09] How about these stats as uh 10 penalty
[56:12] kicks have been missed. 10 out of 22.
[56:14] That's 45%. That's absurd. That's
[56:16] absurdly high. And it has to do with the
[56:18] pressure. And to Mike's point about how
[56:20] good the games are, the knockout game so
[56:22] far, Canada wins in stoppage time,
[56:24] Brazil wins in stoppage time, Pawawaii
[56:27] wins in on PKs, and Morocco wins on PKs.
[56:30] Uh, at that point we're in agreement,
[56:32] right? Not a lot of difference between
[56:34] what's happening there. That's not a
[56:35] great metric for measuring who's better.
[56:38] That's who's better kind of randomly at
[56:40] the end of games. I don't mean it as an
[56:42] indictment. It makes it great. All
[56:44] stakes make all sports uh great when you
[56:47] put stakes on them. But that's just
[56:49] randomness happening at the end of these
[56:51] games.
[56:51] It is, but also that's why Zlatan after
[56:53] the game said that's why you don't let
[56:55] it get the PKs.
[56:56] That's the strategy. Bai probably goes
[56:58] into that match, let's try to get this a
[57:01] penalty kicks because that's how that's
[57:04] how we win this match. So their strategy
[57:07] is defend like hell. We're not going to
[57:09] overextend ourselves. We're going to get
[57:11] this match to PK's. That is what the the
[57:13] mentality is going into that match and
[57:15] it's upon Germany, the far more talented
[57:17] team, to break them down. And they
[57:20] couldn't. And what resulted was arguably
[57:24] the single greatest knockout stage upset
[57:27] ever in World Cup history. You can you
[57:30] can offer up some other examples that
[57:32] maybe happened in the 1950s. There was a
[57:34] famous final back then, but all the
[57:36] other ones were either host nations,
[57:38] which is a great equalizer in these
[57:40] things. And South Korea had two of them
[57:41] when they hosted, one of which was more
[57:44] than controversy because of the
[57:45] officiating. Russia versus Spain, huge
[57:48] upset. Russia was doping and a host
[57:50] nation. I think the talent disparity
[57:53] between these two teams was as great in
[57:56] an upset as I've ever seen before in the
[57:58] knockout stage. Isn't this Pawway's kind
[58:00] of strategy for like over 30 years now
[58:02] going back to Silvert as they keep
[58:04] but they've had better they've had
[58:05] better sides guys had that play over in
[58:08] in Europe and Ciso is probably the only
[58:09] guy that that well I Gomez who played
[58:12] here in inner Miami is playing for
[58:13] Brighton which has had an okay season
[58:15] but this is not a really talented
[58:17] Pawawaii side guys everybody was saying
[58:19] how much Pawawaii sucked
[58:20] against Yeah because the United States
[58:22] beat him four to one that's why
[58:24] so Morocco also scored in stoppage time
[58:29] yesterday to tie the game and of course
[58:31] they ended up going on and winning in
[58:32] penalties. But you saw Dan, the guy from
[58:35] Netherlands that scored was a super
[58:39] dramatic story because his son like his
[58:43] his wife had a miscarriage
[58:46] two days prior and he scored the goal
[58:48] which by the way that passed to him
[58:50] where he scored Buddy passed it while on
[58:54] his side on the ground and made this
[58:56] incredible pass to him and then uh uh
[58:59] Gakbo
[59:00] Yeah, Gakbo makes an unbelievable hustle
[59:03] chasing the play ends up being at the
[59:04] right place at the right time because
[59:06] the sport often rewards that kind of
[59:07] hustle. And Dan, you mentioned why the
[59:10] Dutch fans aren't pleased with their
[59:11] style of play. It's not the same type of
[59:13] Dutch generation. They could afford to
[59:15] play a more beautiful, appealing style
[59:18] when they had better players. Gakpo is
[59:19] probably their biggest threat and he's
[59:21] coming off a very disappointing season
[59:23] for Liverpool.
[59:23] Roger Goodell's got to do more with what
[59:25] he has.
[59:27] We've got an update. Per Brian Winhorst,
[59:30] the Raptors and the Clippers have agreed
[59:33] on the player compensation for what's
[59:35] happening in a trade for Kawi Leonard.
[59:37] He says it is Brandon Ingram who would
[59:40] be on the move to the Clippers. So, you
[59:42] would send Brandon Ingram over to the
[59:44] Clippers and Kawhi Leonard over to the
[59:46] Raptors. He says that Kawhi Leonard
[59:48] would not be offered an extension by the
[59:51] Clippers at all should he stay in Los
[59:54] Angeles. the Raptors, of course, willing
[59:56] to offer that extension. He says they're
[59:58] haggling over picks at this point. He
[01:00:00] also noted that Anthony Davis is very
[01:00:03] unlikely to end up with the Golden State
[01:00:06] Warriors. They've reassured Jimmy Butler
[01:00:08] that he will still be a piece of
[01:00:10] everything happening there. So, it seems
[01:00:11] as though Draymond Green in his opt out
[01:00:13] is just trying to create space for
[01:00:15] LeBron James. And let's note, guys, that
[01:00:17] Draymond Green did post a Batman, no,
[01:00:20] not the Mexican Batman, but a Batman
[01:00:22] symbol yesterday, indicating that on the
[01:00:24] Draymond Green show today, there will be
[01:00:26] some sort of update.
[01:00:27] Uh, I mean, Vincent Goodwill is saying
[01:00:29] on ESPN right now that Kawaii makes
[01:00:31] Toronto uh an immediate title contender.
[01:00:34] Why? What? Well, that was my reaction,
[01:00:36] too. Uh, but he is better than Brandon
[01:00:39] Ingram. He's also a good deal older than
[01:00:42] Brandon Ingram. What are your thoughts
[01:00:43] there about Kawaii to Toronto? I mean,
[01:00:46] and what are your thoughts on John Mar
[01:00:47] going for so little uh to Portland when
[01:00:50] Portland has plenty of point guards and
[01:00:52] now they're going to be they're going to
[01:00:54] have Damen Lillard and John Mar fighting
[01:00:57] for usage time.
[01:00:58] So those are very wildly different
[01:01:00] topics. You should not have combined
[01:01:02] them. You should have just asked me
[01:01:02] about Toronto and stayed there. Uh but
[01:01:04] I'll do my job my way, you your way.
[01:01:07] Thank you.
[01:01:08] So Quai Quai, the the song of Quai is
[01:01:11] the same every year. If he's healthy,
[01:01:14] yeah, he's that good. He's incredible.
[01:01:16] And you put him in that lineup where
[01:01:18] they got so many guys who are 67, 68 can
[01:01:20] switch. Guys like Scotty Barnes and RJ
[01:01:22] Barrett and all that. Yeah, I think he
[01:01:24] absolutely vaults them into, hey, we're
[01:01:27] one of the best teams in the East status
[01:01:30] now, as we've seen in the last eight or
[01:01:32] nine years in the NBA. Hey, if you're
[01:01:33] health, if you could defend, if you
[01:01:35] could score, and you're healthy, you can
[01:01:36] win the championship. You can absolutely
[01:01:38] win the championship. I don't think it's
[01:01:39] ridiculous that oh not no not them.
[01:01:42] Having said that, that's a big if if
[01:01:44] he's healthy now. He was healthy last
[01:01:46] year. So that's uh room to I guess be
[01:01:50] optimistic.
[01:01:50] Wouldn't it stand a reason that then he
[01:01:52] wouldn't be healthy this year if he was
[01:01:53] healthy last year?
[01:01:55] I don't know. I I'm just saying that
[01:01:56] like when someone says that about that
[01:01:58] team, we're saying if they're healthy,
[01:02:00] obviously we're not say he could get
[01:02:02] hurt and they're still going to win it.
[01:02:03] That's not the case. Now, in the case of
[01:02:05] John Morant, Dan, you have to understand
[01:02:07] they've been shopping this guy for the
[01:02:09] better part of a year and a half. And
[01:02:11] all of the offers, I use offers very
[01:02:13] loosely, were like, "Yeah, how many
[01:02:14] picks are you going to give me to take
[01:02:15] your problem off of your hands?" The
[01:02:17] John Morant conundrum is thus number
[01:02:19] one, just health. Has not been a healthy
[01:02:22] guy. He's never played more than 70
[01:02:24] games or so in his career. Particularly
[01:02:26] in the last three years, he's been hurt
[01:02:28] more than he's been healthy. Number two,
[01:02:30] his game really hasn't grown since he
[01:02:31] was an all-star. He made it to the
[01:02:33] All-Star game as this exciting uptempo
[01:02:36] athletic guy in the open court, a great
[01:02:38] playmaker, but poor shooter. The
[01:02:41] shooting never got better and the league
[01:02:42] is now kind of the book is out on him.
[01:02:44] We go under on screens. We force him to
[01:02:47] shoot and beat us from the perimeter and
[01:02:48] he can't do that. So, it's like, okay,
[01:02:50] you're not available when you are
[01:02:51] available. Your game is kind of
[01:02:53] stagnated. And then the third part
[01:02:54] obviously is the off the court issues.
[01:02:56] So, because of that, he became a very
[01:02:58] toxic product. They could not give him
[01:03:00] away. Now, I think they actually did
[01:03:02] very well for themselves because Jeremy
[01:03:04] Grant and Chris Murray are guys you can
[01:03:05] flip. Those guy th right now. They're
[01:03:09] for right, you know, they're not Mr.
[01:03:10] Right. They're Mr. Right now. You can
[01:03:12] flip them and get assets, particularly
[01:03:14] as we get closer to the trade deadline
[01:03:15] where teams are going to have injuries.
[01:03:16] Oh my god, I need a three and D wing. I
[01:03:18] got Jeremy Grant for you. So, I think
[01:03:20] Memphis did really well for themselves.
[01:03:22] Portland is the interesting one because
[01:03:24] you mentioned Lillard and J. You forgot
[01:03:28] that
[01:03:29] plenty of points.
[01:03:30] Drew Holiday's there and Scoot Henderson
[01:03:32] is there and Shaden Sharp isn't a point
[01:03:34] guard, but he has the ball in his hands
[01:03:35] a lot. So, you got five perimeter guys,
[01:03:38] short guys. How does that shake out? And
[01:03:40] the only thing I can think to myself is
[01:03:42] Drew Holidayiday, pack your bags. You're
[01:03:43] going somewhere else.
[01:03:44] Yeah, they're talking about Jaylen
[01:03:46] Brown, a package that sends him back to
[01:03:48] Boston. I want to ask you this question,
[01:03:50] though.
[01:03:52] John Morant's three-point shooting is
[01:03:55] worse than Russell Westbrook's is worse
[01:03:57] than Anttompos. He is a bad three-point
[01:04:00] shooter, but he's he's exactly the kind
[01:04:03] of player that I take a chance on
[01:04:05] because you do not find superstars in
[01:04:07] the discount bin when they're 26 years
[01:04:09] old. My question to you is, can Jarant
[01:04:12] become a shooter? He's worse than
[01:04:15] Westbrook and worse than Antumpmpo from
[01:04:18] three. Can John Morant fix this part of
[01:04:20] the game? As all the great ones do, when
[01:04:23] they evolve, they grow. They find the
[01:04:25] parts of their game that get better. Is
[01:04:27] that fixable?
[01:04:28] I thought we don't want him shooting.
[01:04:33] Is it fixable? Technically, yes. Right.
[01:04:36] But one would think that a guy who's
[01:04:38] been hurt as long as he has would have
[01:04:40] the opportunity to become a better
[01:04:42] shooter. Uh when Kobe Bryant early in
[01:04:44] his career broke his right hand, he just
[01:04:47] shot with his left hand in practice to
[01:04:49] the point where he was beating other
[01:04:50] players on the Lakers in horse shooting
[01:04:53] left-handed as they shot with their
[01:04:54] dominant hand. And it helped him. He
[01:04:57] like when he came back, he became an
[01:04:58] ambidextrous scorer really. I I there's
[01:05:01] nothing about Josh shot that looks
[01:05:03] mechanically awful. It's not like Joe
[01:05:06] Kim Noah for instance. It's like oh my
[01:05:08] god, you can't fix that. But the reality
[01:05:10] is we have a pretty big sample size of
[01:05:13] shots that he's taken. He does not shoot
[01:05:15] well. Even the best of his years at 34%
[01:05:18] that represents below average in the
[01:05:19] NBA.
[01:05:20] But if you can get back to that, like
[01:05:21] you totally live with 34%.
[01:05:24] I think you'd live with it, but then it
[01:05:25] would let you down at some point. I
[01:05:27] think at that point you still you still
[01:05:29] hit this wall. And in part also because
[01:05:32] he plays a very aerial uh dynamic kind
[01:05:35] of style of play, but he's not a big
[01:05:38] dude. He's a little taller than I am. He
[01:05:40] probably weighs less than I do. Um, so
[01:05:43] it's like, hey, you can't shoot, so
[01:05:46] everything has to be going towards the
[01:05:47] rim and you're not big enough to take
[01:05:50] that kind of abuse over and over again
[01:05:51] and remain healthy. It's a really tough
[01:05:53] conundrum to have. I'm really curious
[01:05:56] what Portland's vision is. You know,
[01:05:57] Mike brought up a good point that
[01:05:59] Advia was incredible down the stretch,
[01:06:01] developed into a really nice player for
[01:06:03] them and had the ball in his hands a
[01:06:05] lot.
[01:06:05] Too much. Too much. They didn't have
[01:06:07] point guards. They didn't last year.
[01:06:08] They did not have point guard.
[01:06:10] They did, but but he he was initiating
[01:06:12] the offense. He looked good. Certainly
[01:06:14] against San Antonio, he ate. And I don't
[01:06:16] know how bringing in John Morant helps
[01:06:18] him out.
[01:06:19] It's the old uh first class upgrade,
[01:06:21] right? Like, hey, Abdia, we don't have a
[01:06:22] point guard. You need to do all this
[01:06:23] stuff. So, hey, come up to first class.
[01:06:25] Ooh, champagne. Ooh, lay flat seats. And
[01:06:27] now we got a point guard. All right, go
[01:06:29] back to just standing in the corner and
[01:06:30] we'll run some stuff for you. Like, wait
[01:06:31] a second. The reward is greater than the
[01:06:33] risk here when he's 26 years old and you
[01:06:35] can't get this kind of guy at this age
[01:06:37] in the discount bin. I take the chance,
[01:06:40] but I understand all the questions. He
[01:06:42] hasn't played more than seven straight
[01:06:43] games since 2023.
[01:06:45] That's insane.
[01:06:46] Like he doesn't he doesn't play and he
[01:06:49] gets hurt a lot because the style of
[01:06:51] play that Amina is referencing. He can
[01:06:54] only be great if it's at the rim. And it
[01:06:57] hurts to be at the rim. It's hard to be
[01:06:59] at the rim. It's especially hard to be
[01:07:01] at the rim at his size. But to get that
[01:07:05] name
[01:07:07] at 26 for one of your bad contracts and
[01:07:11] no picks, like that's just a crazy
[01:07:13] disscent. And part of it is what Mike is
[01:07:16] saying, the joke. Which shooting problem
[01:07:18] are you worried about with John Morant?
[01:07:20] Like that's the off-c court stuff is one
[01:07:22] thing, but the reason people didn't
[01:07:24] trade for him is the oncourt stuff and
[01:07:26] that he's not on the court for exactly
[01:07:29] that he's not on the court is probably
[01:07:31] the biggest one. Like I said, the most
[01:07:33] games he's ever played is 67 games his
[01:07:35] rookie year. He's never played more than
[01:07:36] 67 games and that was his rookie year.
[01:07:38] First two years 67, 63, then it down to
[01:07:41] 57, 61, 9, 50, 20. That's absurd amount
[01:07:45] of time to be missing. If Jaw had one of
[01:07:49] those things short up, if he was like,
[01:07:51] I'm hurt and I have these off the court
[01:07:52] issues, but man, when I play, you can't
[01:07:54] stop me. Kind of like Zion or kind of
[01:07:56] like Quai, you could live with that. If
[01:07:58] it was, I'm I play a lot, but my game
[01:08:01] may be stagnated and I have this off the
[01:08:03] court issue, you could be like, all
[01:08:04] right, how can we get to the development
[01:08:05] part and get you better? If it was, I
[01:08:08] play a lot and I'm great and I don't
[01:08:10] have any off the court issues,
[01:08:11] obviously. Then it's like, yeah, give it
[01:08:12] to me. Right? The problem is all three
[01:08:14] of these things are conspiring against
[01:08:16] him. And so the risk that you're talking
[01:08:18] about, Dan, when you say, "Well, he's
[01:08:19] only 26 years old." But that's a lot of
[01:08:21] risk you're inheriting on the off chance
[01:08:24] that all of these things get solved,
[01:08:26] which by the way, we don't have any
[01:08:28] indication they have gotten solved. Not
[01:08:29] him being healthy, not him being a
[01:08:31] better shooter, and definitely not him
[01:08:33] having reticence or kind of or s sort of
[01:08:36] uh feeling of remorse of what he did.
[01:08:39] They're still kind of making a lot of
[01:08:40] excuses like, "Man, I didn't even get
[01:08:41] charged. I don't know why people make
[01:08:42] such a big deal. If that's your attitude
[01:08:44] about it, it that's still a red flag to
[01:08:46] me.
[01:08:49] An update per Mark Stein and Jake Fiser.
[01:08:52] The Washington Wizards, who we've talked
[01:08:54] about with Anthony Davis, have interest
[01:08:57] in resigning a several time all-star, a
[01:09:01] several time MVP, Russell Westbrook, to
[01:09:06] pair with Anthony Davis and Trey Young.
[01:09:10] Also pointed out by Brian Winhorse, if
[01:09:13] the Kawhi Leonard for Brandon Ingram
[01:09:14] trade were to happen, it would put the
[01:09:16] Clippers in a space where they would
[01:09:18] have about $35 million in cap becoming a
[01:09:21] free agency player. But what I started
[01:09:23] to think about was, wait a minute, if
[01:09:24] they acquire multiple draft picks from
[01:09:26] the Toronto Raptors and they have one of
[01:09:28] their own that they could trade, could
[01:09:30] they be jumping back into the Jaylen
[01:09:33] Brown conversation? Because we said that
[01:09:35] they were a team that was interested in
[01:09:36] Jaylen Brown about a week ago. And if
[01:09:38] they cleared 35 million, could they
[01:09:40] potentially opt in to their player
[01:09:43] option with Bogdanovich, take him and
[01:09:46] Dererick Jones Jr., ship them to Boston
[01:09:48] with a cacophony of picks, and acquire
[01:09:51] Jaylen Brown in the runaround, and
[01:09:54] ultimately end up with Brandon Ingram
[01:09:55] and Jaylen Brown in exchange for Kawhi
[01:09:58] Leonard. It's just a question I'm
[01:09:59] asking.
[01:09:59] Is it a cacophony of picks or a
[01:10:01] cornicopia of picks? Is a A cacophony is
[01:10:03] a sound, is it not? A cornucopia is a
[01:10:06] holder for a variety of things. Correct.
[01:10:08] Why are you looking at me?
[01:10:09] Um, I'm sorry. I was looking at you.
[01:10:11] Where's Jaylen Brown going to end up?
[01:10:12] Because now Portland, it it seems like
[01:10:14] Portland can send Drew Holiday, Scoot
[01:10:16] Henderson, Sharp. They can send that to
[01:10:18] Boston for Jaylen Brown.
[01:10:20] I have to Portland has to be making
[01:10:22] another move. It makes no You're going
[01:10:24] to start Damian a back court of Damen
[01:10:26] Luller to John Moran. Do you want to
[01:10:27] play any defense at any point this
[01:10:28] season? Like they're going to make
[01:10:30] another big move. So, I do think that
[01:10:32] they're in on Jaylen Brown. I think
[01:10:33] Jaylen Brown's going to end up in
[01:10:34] Charlotte. I do. I think Charlotte
[01:10:36] Charlotte's out. Why do you say that?
[01:10:38] Well, because I talked to Rod Boon for
[01:10:39] the Charlotte Observer on my radio show
[01:10:41] and he's
[01:10:41] he knows everything. Who' you Who'd you
[01:10:43] talk to, Zaz? Who' you talk to?
[01:10:45] I'm just assuming. But he knows
[01:10:47] everything.
[01:10:48] I mean, he covers that team. He's He's
[01:10:50] pretty.
[01:10:51] I'M JUST ASSUMING. COOL. YEAH. People
[01:10:52] who cover, you know, Giannis who said
[01:10:54] that it was going to be Boston. He's
[01:10:56] here.
[01:10:56] Who?
[01:10:57] I'm not going to name names.
[01:10:59] He's not going to take a quiz. All
[01:11:00] right. He's just here to be dad of the
[01:11:01] year.
[01:11:02] Robert knows everything. Whatever.
[01:11:03] Celebrated today at 5:00 p. a.m. at LA
[01:11:06] Well, you want to name the name of the
[01:11:07] bar? Mike's bar.
[01:11:08] Las Rosas.
[01:11:09] That's right. 5:00 PM dad of the year
[01:11:11] honoring It's not even dad of the year.
[01:11:13] It's dad of all time. It's always
[01:11:15] Dad of Honor.
[01:11:17] And by the way, you have a really high
[01:11:19] bar to to meet reach, right? You know
[01:11:21] that, right?
[01:11:21] For what? What are we talking about?
[01:11:22] Well, last Tuesday they had a bunch of
[01:11:23] Scottish people in there. So, now you
[01:11:25] got to you got to you got to meet that
[01:11:26] challenge.
[01:11:27] Yeah. Okay. I I don't even know what
[01:11:29] that means.
[01:11:30] You don't know what it means? It was the
[01:11:31] biggest Tuesday in the history of Las
[01:11:33] Rosas. And they're following it up with
[01:11:35] dad, honorary debt. Dad, dad of the
[01:11:37] year,
[01:11:38] dad of honor.
[01:11:40] Why can't you get that right?
[01:11:43] Because I don't believe it's a real
[01:11:44] thing. I believe that the nomination
[01:11:46] process has been contaminated by
[01:11:48] corruption.
[01:11:49] I I'm not going to explain this again.
[01:11:50] It is a very obvious grip to leverage
[01:11:53] his social media following to grow a
[01:11:54] concept I'm trying to get off the ground
[01:11:56] in order to increase revenue on
[01:11:58] Tuesdays. What's so hard?
[01:11:59] I want to uh play some sound here for
[01:12:02] people. Uh for those of you who have
[01:12:04] been following Jeff Pearlman, he does a
[01:12:07] good job with storytelling. He does a
[01:12:09] good job on social media sort of
[01:12:11] rumaging through uh the stories he's
[01:12:14] told in the past. He used to be a Sports
[01:12:16] Illustrated writer. He's the one
[01:12:18] responsible for that John Rocker story
[01:12:20] that ended up with the associations you
[01:12:22] now have for John Rocker. And Pearlman
[01:12:25] brought up something yesterday and I
[01:12:27] want to discuss this with you guys
[01:12:29] because I think it's fair. Chris Johnson
[01:12:32] went on Good Morning America with
[01:12:34] Michael Strahan and Chris Johnson talked
[01:12:37] about having ALS and Jeff Pearlman is
[01:12:40] mad at the way Michael Strahan handled
[01:12:44] things. Listen to what Jeff Pearlman had
[01:12:45] to say.
[01:12:46] People who played football were four
[01:12:48] times more likely to wind up with Louis
[01:12:51] Garrick's disease than people who don't.
[01:12:53] And the longer you play football, the
[01:12:55] more likely you are to wind up with ALS.
[01:12:57] Um, this was a pure research paper. It
[01:13:00] wound up uh appearing in multiple
[01:13:02] medical journals, was cited by the
[01:13:03] American Medical Association. Um its
[01:13:06] findings are are ironclad.
[01:13:10] So look, there's a tie. And the thing
[01:13:12] about Strahan that I was thinking is you
[01:13:14] have Chris Johnson on this morning and
[01:13:16] to me, if Michael Strahan were being
[01:13:19] genuinely inquisitive and genuinely at
[01:13:21] all journalistic, and I know he's not a
[01:13:22] journalist by training, but blah blah
[01:13:23] blah, there are a couple questions you
[01:13:26] have to ask. Number one, do you regret
[01:13:28] playing football? Looking at your life
[01:13:30] now sitting here at 40, seeing the ties
[01:13:32] between football and AOS, the
[01:13:34] possibility that that game caused this,
[01:13:36] if you could do it all all over again,
[01:13:39] would you play? And maybe he says, "No,
[01:13:41] I would do it. It was worth it." Blah,
[01:13:42] blah, blah. And maybe he says, "No way I
[01:13:44] would do it." Either way, that's the
[01:13:46] money question of a reasonable
[01:13:47] interview.
[01:13:49] That's reasonable criticism to me. And I
[01:13:52] believe it's reasonable criticism to
[01:13:54] file uh for the media in general not
[01:13:57] talking about these links. And you've
[01:13:59] heard me say before,
[01:14:03] John Skipper was the most powerful man
[01:14:06] in sports. football does not want you
[01:14:09] talking about the violence causing early
[01:14:13] deaths or ALS or any of the risks
[01:14:16] involved with a sport that just keeps
[01:14:18] growing and growing and growing. And
[01:14:21] what you had was a story, was it NPR or
[01:14:26] PBS? It was one of those uh one of those
[01:14:28] outlets was doing the first reporting
[01:14:31] that there was of any kind on the link
[01:14:34] between concussions and the NFL and
[01:14:36] brain damage in America's most popular
[01:14:39] sport.
[01:14:41] John Skipper is the head of ESPN. He's
[01:14:43] got a partnership with the NFL. He
[01:14:45] partners with PBS on this reporting and
[01:14:49] the reporting is being done by ESPN.
[01:14:51] ESPN is showing it's shining a light on
[01:14:54] what PBS is doing. And John Skipper soon
[01:14:57] realizes, wait a minute, the conflict of
[01:15:00] interest here on journalism and my
[01:15:03] partnership with America's most popular
[01:15:05] league is me. I'm the conflict of
[01:15:09] interest. And so ESPN recuses itself
[01:15:13] from the concussion reporting.
[01:15:16] Michael Strahan has a responsibility in
[01:15:18] that instance to ask some sort of
[01:15:21] football related question and he did not
[01:15:23] do it and he came under no criticism
[01:15:26] from anybody except Jeff Pearlman
[01:15:28] because we don't actually want to know.
[01:15:31] We don't like it's just too
[01:15:33] uncomfortable. You can't enjoy that
[01:15:35] thing the way you do every day of the
[01:15:37] week soon. It'll be every day of the
[01:15:39] week soon enough as soon as they get all
[01:15:40] the Christmas days and everything else
[01:15:42] and they knock everyone else out of the
[01:15:43] way. You don't actually want to know
[01:15:46] what it is when these guys are limping
[01:15:47] through the retirement homes to an early
[01:15:49] death.
[01:15:50] Do you have to be a journalist to have a
[01:15:52] journalistic responsibility? And also
[01:15:55] Jeff Pearlman went on to add, it's not
[01:15:56] just a GMA problem or a Michael Strahan
[01:15:59] problem, though that was the focus
[01:16:00] because he had the exclusive. Media in
[01:16:02] general ignored this. ESPN most
[01:16:05] certainly. And I gotta think the Super
[01:16:09] Bowl had something to do with it. This
[01:16:11] is the first Super Bowl ABC has had in
[01:16:13] decades. GMA is gonna have a lot of
[01:16:16] access over there. ESPN, wallto-wall,
[01:16:18] it's going to be the biggest thing for
[01:16:19] that network ever. I got to think the
[01:16:23] tightroppe that they have to walk with
[01:16:25] their their partnership with the NFL had
[01:16:27] something to do with the interviewer and
[01:16:30] the line of questioning. So what is So
[01:16:33] is it more likely that Michael Straan
[01:16:36] never thought to ask it or more likely
[01:16:38] that producers told him we're not asking
[01:16:41] this?
[01:16:42] He's not a journalist, right? So again
[01:16:44] to the original question, what's his
[01:16:46] journalistic responsibility there? I
[01:16:49] gotta imagine he's a natural fit to be
[01:16:51] selected by Chris Johnson to conduct
[01:16:54] that interview and he is not held to the
[01:16:57] same standard though Jeff Pearlman is
[01:16:58] trying to
[01:16:59] and in an ideal world where we don't
[01:17:01] have all these corporate kind of
[01:17:03] synergies or whatever his producers
[01:17:05] would be the ones say Mike you got to
[01:17:07] ask him this like we don't we shouldn't
[01:17:09] have an expectation that Strahan would
[01:17:10] have that top of mind like like Mike
[01:17:12] said Strahan's not a journalist but the
[01:17:15] producers are
[01:17:16] so we're really talking about the like
[01:17:17] Jeff Pearlman naming Michael Straan,
[01:17:19] calling Michael Straan a coward. Like,
[01:17:21] we're really talking about the producers
[01:17:22] there. I
[01:17:22] I don't think he's called him a coward.
[01:17:24] This is a Disney thing.
[01:17:25] Is that the time and place though for
[01:17:27] it? Like,
[01:17:27] yeah,
[01:17:28] but but it's him revealing something.
[01:17:30] It's not like it's him like I just feel
[01:17:32] like when he's tell like that's Chris
[01:17:34] Johnson deciding to tell the story and
[01:17:36] we're going to give him hard-hitting
[01:17:37] questions,
[01:17:38] but Chris, it's a Q&A format. Like he he
[01:17:40] could he could put out a social media
[01:17:42] video and say, "I have ALS. Respect my
[01:17:45] privacy." He chose to have a sitdown
[01:17:48] conversation such that it was
[01:17:51] and also he's not that's not a
[01:17:53] hard-hitting question for Chris Johnson.
[01:17:54] No,
[01:17:55] like that's that's not a it's a
[01:17:56] hard-hitting question from the NFL. It's
[01:17:58] like, "Oh, what are you doing? You kind
[01:17:59] of messing up my thing over here." But
[01:18:01] for Chris Johnson, it's like he either
[01:18:03] doesn't regret it and we've we've heard
[01:18:05] players say, "I don't regret it. I do it
[01:18:07] all the same." Or he says, "Man, I wish
[01:18:09] I wish I'd done things differently." But
[01:18:11] it's not like an uncomfortable question
[01:18:12] for him. He's the one he's already got
[01:18:14] ALS. It's not that's not going to change
[01:18:16] anything.
[01:18:16] I I just want to add real quick because
[01:18:18] I don't want it to sound like I'm
[01:18:19] calling Michael Straan.
[01:18:20] Sounded like you were calling him a
[01:18:21] coward.
[01:18:21] You're right. It did sound like that.
[01:18:23] But Jeff Prman said here Chris Johnson
[01:18:25] is dying and he showed up to GMA to tell
[01:18:27] a story and Michael Straanne one of the
[01:18:29] great cowards on TV in my opinion sits
[01:18:32] there and pretends yada yada. So yeah,
[01:18:34] there's a lot that we don't know. It
[01:18:36] could have been coming from Chris
[01:18:37] Johnson. It could have been a condition
[01:18:39] for the interview. Sometimes when that's
[01:18:41] a condition for an exclusive like that,
[01:18:43] it is stated on the front end.
[01:18:45] But you think it's possible Chris
[01:18:46] Johnson didn't want to broach that
[01:18:47] topic.
[01:18:48] I'm saying I have to put that on your
[01:18:50] radar. I think a lot of people are
[01:18:51] assuming the NFL has something to do
[01:18:53] with this when I've worked for Disney.
[01:18:55] There's a lot of self-governance there
[01:18:56] when it comes to mining their
[01:18:57] partnerships and it could have been
[01:18:59] entirely a Disney call.
[01:19:00] And also we have to accept that maybe
[01:19:02] Jeff Pearlman was talking about cowards
[01:19:03] like Cedric Coward. Not like him being a
[01:19:06] coward, but just a guy with coward on
[01:19:07] the back of his jersey.
[01:19:08] Let's be clear on something here. Uh,
[01:19:12] it's not a hard-hitting question. It's
[01:19:13] just a question. It's just a question.
[01:19:16] Like, that's not
[01:19:19] the discomfort there is not Chris
[01:19:22] Johnson's. You just ask him. It's a
[01:19:24] curiosity. I'm curious. I' I'd like to
[01:19:28] know the answer to that question, but it
[01:19:31] makes me wonder what the audience does
[01:19:35] when it comes to discernment
[01:19:37] on what do you want there?
[01:19:42] Do you want just the access that gives
[01:19:45] you the exclusive story and the
[01:19:47] compromises that have to be made
[01:19:49] sometimes with that access? Because the
[01:19:52] power of that interview is that this
[01:19:56] person in this condition with this
[01:19:58] resume used to be the fastest player in
[01:20:00] the league
[01:20:02] is in front of you and he cannot speak.
[01:20:06] He's computergenerated. Uh he is having
[01:20:10] trouble moving because ALS can move
[01:20:13] quickly through all people, young people
[01:20:15] included. And what does the a what does
[01:20:18] the audience What's the answer to my
[01:20:20] question? What does the audience want?
[01:20:22] Because to me, that seems like perfectly
[01:20:25] reasonable criticism. Uh, and I don't
[01:20:27] think you have to call him a coward. I
[01:20:28] think that's excessive. But to be
[01:20:30] critical of not asking what to me is the
[01:20:33] elephant in the room question because
[01:20:36] the only reason Chris Johnson is on
[01:20:37] there is not because he has the disease,
[01:20:39] it's because he played football. Like,
[01:20:41] the reason Chris Johnson is being
[01:20:43] interviewed is because this is a former
[01:20:45] athlete of some name. They're not
[01:20:47] interviewing random people with ALS.
[01:20:49] they're interviewing this person and so
[01:20:51] to neglect that question is an omission
[01:20:54] that I
[01:20:56] don't know why the omission is there and
[01:20:59] I'm curious and if you ask the question
[01:21:02] you remove
[01:21:04] the hole in your interview by just
[01:21:06] asking a question do you think if
[01:21:09] football had anything to do with this
[01:21:10] that's a kinder way do you regret
[01:21:12] playing football is a kinder way of
[01:21:14] doing it I would have asked do you think
[01:21:17] football had anything to do with this.
[01:21:19] It's probably a question Chris has
[01:21:21] answered to friends and family
[01:21:24] scores of times. It's the number one
[01:21:26] question that
[01:21:27] he had to have asked his doctor, right?
[01:21:29] Obvious, right? It I'm sure it's an
[01:21:32] occupational hazard there. As Jeff
[01:21:33] outlined, you're four times more likely
[01:21:35] to suffer from this terrible disease if
[01:21:37] you play that sport in particular. So I
[01:21:40] I I understand being respectful of it,
[01:21:42] but I in his personal life, there is no
[01:21:45] question that Chris Johnson has been
[01:21:47] asked this question. He's asked himself
[01:21:49] that question. No doubt. As a viewer,
[01:21:53] like if I was sitting in watching it
[01:21:54] live yesterday because I knew Chris
[01:21:56] Johnson was about to make a very serious
[01:21:58] personal announcement on GMA and there
[01:22:01] was rumors that he was going to let
[01:22:03] everybody know he has ALS. I would be
[01:22:05] tuning in live wanting to know if Chris
[01:22:08] Johnson believes just his belief.
[01:22:10] There's no scientific evidence if it's
[01:22:12] because of football.
[01:22:14] I think there is some scientific
[01:22:16] evidence when Jeff Pearlman is saying
[01:22:18] it's four times more likely to happen to
[01:22:21] football players uh with what we know so
[01:22:24] far about brain damage. What I'm going
[01:22:26] to ask the group of you though in terms
[01:22:28] of what's wanted here, the reason he's
[01:22:32] on is to make the announcement, which is
[01:22:34] fairly shocking, that a young person uh
[01:22:37] who used to be the fastest player in the
[01:22:39] NFL is now trapped in the prison of ALS
[01:22:43] where his body has betrayed him and is
[01:22:45] fighting against him and he's trapped
[01:22:47] inside. That's why you're having him on
[01:22:51] to make the announcement, to do the
[01:22:53] interview. But if an interview is meant
[01:22:56] to get inside of a person's head, the
[01:22:58] thing that I want to talk to you guys
[01:23:00] about and the thing that makes me
[01:23:03] genuinely curious about what Chris
[01:23:05] Johnson would answer the question, do
[01:23:07] you regret playing football? Almost
[01:23:10] every football player I have ever talked
[01:23:13] to, no matter their condition, says they
[01:23:16] would do it all over again. But I'm
[01:23:18] always asking before the nursing home.
[01:23:20] I'm always asking before the end. I'm
[01:23:23] asking a good deal before the end. I'm
[01:23:25] asking 30 and 40 year olds and 50 year
[01:23:27] olds. I'm not asking 70 year olds about
[01:23:31] you're limping through pain all the time
[01:23:35] because of what it is that you did.
[01:23:39] It can be assumed because what you did
[01:23:42] contributed to how you're now living
[01:23:44] life. I'd be genuinely curious what
[01:23:47] Chris Johnson's answer to that question
[01:23:49] is given the horrors of that particular
[01:23:52] disease at his age because it's not
[01:23:55] supposed to be at the end when you're as
[01:23:57] young as Chris Johnson is and it doesn't
[01:24:00] get any better from here. It there's not
[01:24:02] a cure. It's only going to get worse
[01:24:04] from here. The answer may very well be
[01:24:07] that he would still have done the exact
[01:24:10] same thing if he feels like it was worth
[01:24:12] it to set up his family to live
[01:24:14] comfortably for the rest of their lives
[01:24:16] without him. Like that would be
[01:24:17] Yeah. I've told you this story though.
[01:24:19] I've told the story here of being on a
[01:24:21] professional sideline with Ricky
[01:24:22] Williams about I'm going to say nine
[01:24:25] years after football and I'm horrified
[01:24:28] by an NFL sideline. like everything out
[01:24:30] there is moving way too fast. And the
[01:24:32] sounds being made by the collisions are
[01:24:35] legitimately scary. And Ricky's standing
[01:24:38] next to me and he just mumbles under the
[01:24:40] under his breath, "What the hell was I
[01:24:43] doing?" Because his concept is warriors
[01:24:47] don't measure consequences. Otherwise,
[01:24:48] they wouldn't be warriors. Like that
[01:24:50] warriors don't sign up for the
[01:24:52] consequences. They sign up for the the
[01:24:55] nobility, the glamour, the money, uh,
[01:24:58] whatever else is there. But consequences
[01:25:00] is not some you don't choose to be a
[01:25:02] warrior if you know that these are the
[01:25:04] consequences. I How many people do you
[01:25:06] think are how many football players do
[01:25:07] you think are watching that and thinking
[01:25:09] that can happen to me? Like a knee
[01:25:10] injury can happen to me. How many do you
[01:25:12] think are watching Chris Johnson on GMA
[01:25:14] and saying that can happen to me? I can
[01:25:15] be in my 40s trapped in my body, no
[01:25:17] longer self-sufficient. and I need the
[01:25:19] help of all of my family in order to
[01:25:21] keep me upright and functioning. I don't
[01:25:23] think a lot of football players are
[01:25:24] doing that.
[01:25:26] Speaking of Warriors, son of potentially
[01:25:29] future Warrior LeBron James, Bronny
[01:25:32] James Jr. has had his $2.3 million
[01:25:35] contract fully guaranteed.
[01:25:36] Whoa, that's big news.
[01:29:39] And Roy, I don't know the context of
[01:29:41] what it is that you guys were talking
[01:29:42] about that revealed this about Chris
[01:29:44] Cody.
[01:29:45] Yeah. Uh Chris asked me what the uh
[01:29:47] sound from the first down uh for the
[01:29:50] Dolphins games were. I said
[01:29:51] it's just a noise I've made throughout
[01:29:53] my entire life. It's just like one like
[01:29:54] I just did it. Yeah.
[01:29:56] And to me that is just that's another
[01:29:59] Miami Dolphins first down.
[01:30:01] Well, let's find out. Let's find out if
[01:30:03] your dad knows because he's not a real
[01:30:05] movie go. Instead of impersonating the
[01:30:07] sound, do you have the actual sound?
[01:30:09] Greg Cody, do you know who's making this
[01:30:12] sound?
[01:30:14] I do.
[01:30:14] Clark Gable.
[01:30:15] Come on.
[01:30:18] It's the famous actor
[01:30:20] Rock Hudson.
[01:30:21] Oh, this is great. He doesn't know it.
[01:30:22] No, no. It's the famous actor and I got
[01:30:25] to pin his name down because I don't
[01:30:27] think
[01:30:27] You should be able to say this
[01:30:28] immediately. I don't think it's Robert
[01:30:30] Dairo.
[01:30:31] But I think it's
[01:30:32] in the neighborhood.
[01:30:33] In the neighborhood.
[01:30:36] Uh, give me a second.
[01:30:37] Haha.
[01:30:38] Robert Dairo.
[01:30:39] Humphrey.
[01:30:39] Aluccino.
[01:30:41] Hey, there you go.
[01:30:41] If someone said that in his headphones,
[01:30:43] you're fired.
[01:30:44] Whoa. Nobody said that. What movie? It's
[01:30:45] Apek.
[01:30:46] Um, what movie? Uh,
[01:30:49] Street Core Named Desire.
[01:30:51] You ain't You No. Uh, you're not mad
[01:30:55] enough to know the truth. Something like
[01:30:57] No,
[01:30:58] that's a few good men and and that's a
[01:31:01] few good men.
[01:31:03] It's not You're not man enough to know
[01:31:05] the truth. I
[01:31:07] CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.
[01:31:09] I don't know.
[01:31:11] It's a different movie. Pacino was not
[01:31:13] in
[01:31:14] You're not man enough to know the truth.
[01:31:16] That was originally line. Nicholson
[01:31:17] Adlib take
[01:31:18] put it on the Pette Levitart show. Was
[01:31:20] Pacino and a Few Good Men
[01:31:22] was a blind Pacino.
[01:31:26] Okay. What did you say?
[01:31:27] on a hot table.
[01:31:29] Let's keep going. Let's see. Let's see
[01:31:31] how long it takes you to get it again.
[01:31:33] I think Did he win an Oscar? I think he
[01:31:35] won an Oscar for this.
[01:31:37] Um uh
[01:31:39] Bull Durham.
[01:31:40] No.
[01:31:42] Good answer. Good answer.
[01:31:43] Put it on the pole. Ra.
[01:31:47] It's a Bull movie. Just naming Dairo
[01:31:50] movies.
[01:31:52] I don't know.
[01:31:52] Put it on the pole. was a blind puccino
[01:31:55] in Bulurham
[01:31:56] Chicago Bullah
[01:31:58] and put it on the poll as well was a
[01:32:02] blind puccino in raging bowl
[01:32:06] first of all it's a really random thing
[01:32:08] to have stick
[01:32:37] Zaz from the World Cup. uh and you took
[01:32:41] uh Somerville's name and just made him
[01:32:43] buddy earlier. So, you might not be the
[01:32:46] perfect person to ask this question, but
[01:32:48] the last 30 minutes of that game
[01:32:50] yesterday, they had two touches in
[01:32:52] Morocco's penalty box. They got zero
[01:32:55] shots on goal in the last 30 minutes.
[01:32:56] They had the ball 17% of the time. So,
[01:32:59] they went to a conservative style. They
[01:33:01] should have all been wearing Cedric
[01:33:03] Coward's jersey running around back
[01:33:05] there. And they're getting crushed for
[01:33:07] it today. Uh, I want to talk about
[01:33:10] penalty kicks for a second because I
[01:33:12] think they're perfect in the attention
[01:33:14] deficit disorder era. It's perfect to
[01:33:16] just make it maximum stakes and just
[01:33:19] have guys kicking the ball at the goalie
[01:33:21] and it's just a lot of fun.
[01:33:24] But I wouldn't want to be the favorite
[01:33:26] and have the game decided by uh the
[01:33:30] other team trying to just get me to
[01:33:32] penalty kicks because then whatever
[01:33:34] advantages I had before are eliminated
[01:33:37] and we are now doing something that as I
[01:33:39] said before is no longer actually
[01:33:42] soccer. It's just there's no there's no
[01:33:45] movement involved. Like it's it's it's
[01:33:48] asinine as a concept even though there
[01:33:51] are no better ones in all the time with
[01:33:54] this very primitive game. Uh we haven't
[01:33:56] figured out a way. You can't have them
[01:33:58] go seven overtimes that the the bodies
[01:34:00] can't handle that. So you have to have
[01:34:02] something that decides the game. And
[01:34:05] while it's entertaining, you'd agree
[01:34:07] with me that it's not a great metric for
[01:34:10] who's deciding who's better, right?
[01:34:12] No, of course not. But you you're you're
[01:34:14] saying this as if this is a new
[01:34:15] strategy. Wouldn't a strategy like this
[01:34:17] where you got one team who is
[01:34:19] significantly better than the other.
[01:34:20] They're trying to avoid going to
[01:34:23] penalties because that winds up leveling
[01:34:25] out the differences between the two
[01:34:27] teams. Like this can't possibly be a new
[01:34:28] strategy.
[01:34:29] No, it's not. It's not. This has been
[01:34:30] something that on the international
[01:34:32] level they've been dealing with since
[01:34:34] the the '9s.
[01:34:35] There's no way to stop it, right?
[01:34:36] And I actually like that part of the
[01:34:38] strategy of the game. And you want to
[01:34:41] say that it's not reflective of what the
[01:34:42] sport is? Well, there's a reason why
[01:34:44] they went to this because long drawn out
[01:34:46] golden gold type competitions were also
[01:34:48] bastardizing the sport. And that was
[01:34:51] before possession had such an emphas
[01:34:53] emphasis on it where you see a team like
[01:34:55] Japan chasing the ball being dog tired
[01:34:58] hoping against hope that they can just
[01:35:00] get to penalty kicks because they are
[01:35:02] being run out of a building. That's not
[01:35:05] a true way to determine who's best
[01:35:08] either.
[01:35:10] the penalty kicks. I've got to assume
[01:35:12] wherever it is that you are, you will
[01:35:14] stop and watch that.
[01:35:16] Oh yeah.
[01:35:16] Like if you are somebody who doesn't
[01:35:19] care even for the sport, the idea that
[01:35:22] you're watching, as I've said before, of
[01:35:24] the World Cup, we have all the sports
[01:35:26] here. We have 50 teams in just New York
[01:35:29] that play a bunch of different sports.
[01:35:31] But so many of these countries, those
[01:35:33] colors are what they wear around because
[01:35:35] it's their only thing. They don't have
[01:35:38] anything else. This is so much bigger
[01:35:40] than the Olympics in terms of patriotic
[01:35:43] pride is the greatest thing that you
[01:35:44] have in sports, but especially in these
[01:35:47] I can't even imagine what it's like in
[01:35:48] Morocco. I can't imagine what it's like
[01:35:50] in these small countries where they're
[01:35:53] looking at things and they're knocking
[01:35:54] off giants. Dan, this is the biggest
[01:35:57] rift between me and Witty and and Mike
[01:36:00] is that they put so much emphasis
[01:36:02] importance on club play. And I keep
[01:36:04] telling them you guys can say that. And
[01:36:05] you guys could say all the best players
[01:36:07] in the EPL or whatever. But if you poll
[01:36:10] every single one of those players and
[01:36:12] say what is the greatest accomplishment
[01:36:13] you can have, they will all say to a man
[01:36:15] to win a World Cup. That is the number
[01:36:17] one thing on everyone's mind who plays
[01:36:19] this game. Whether you're barefoot in a
[01:36:21] vacant lot in Sa Paulo or you're playing
[01:36:24] in an academy with manicured grass and
[01:36:26] all that stuff, everyone's dream is this
[01:36:28] thing. It happens once every four years.
[01:36:30] And it is, man, I was getting into this
[01:36:33] last night with my co-host on the radio
[01:36:35] while I was doing free radio on NBA
[01:36:36] radio. He just couldn't understand. He's
[01:36:39] like, "What do you mean Messi's more
[01:36:41] popular than LeBron?" And I was like,
[01:36:43] "Buddy, you're putting me in a horrible
[01:36:45] situation here where I have to be the
[01:36:47] guy who defends Messi and has to stick
[01:36:49] up for him." But I'm like,
[01:36:50] "It's not on NBA radio, but it's not
[01:36:53] even close. It's not even close." Uh,
[01:36:55] and so I said, "This is one metric, and
[01:36:58] it's just a rough one." I said, 'How
[01:37:00] many Instagram followers do you think
[01:37:02] LeBron has? It's like 100 million. It's
[01:37:04] like 150 150 million. I said, how many
[01:37:07] you think Messi has? Well, he probably
[01:37:09] has more. Was it like 250? I was like,
[01:37:11] it's 450 mill 511 million followers,
[01:37:14] dude. Half a billion people follow this
[01:37:17] guy. And his response, I swear to God,
[01:37:19] he's like, yeah, but how many of those
[01:37:21] are bought?
[01:37:22] I I love the international game. I I
[01:37:25] think the point that you're referring to
[01:37:26] is maybe the quality isn't as good, but
[01:37:28] even the quality of the international
[01:37:30] game where it was compared to the club
[01:37:31] game not as good, that's changing too
[01:37:34] because of all the data afforded to
[01:37:36] these coaches and coaches that have have
[01:37:38] like getting to be a credentialed coach
[01:37:43] in Europe is a process. You have to go
[01:37:46] through training. It is an education.
[01:37:48] You go through tears. You get your your
[01:37:49] your medals and you you go through an
[01:37:52] academy to become a coach. These coaches
[01:37:54] are so smart. They have so much data
[01:37:58] available to them. I was always like,
[01:37:59] man, let's counterattack for the USA.
[01:38:01] Let's dig deep. We don't have these guys
[01:38:03] in camp for long and kick it deep and
[01:38:04] use our athletes. And we changed our
[01:38:07] style because our training methods are
[01:38:09] different. The science is different. And
[01:38:11] we figured that that was the best way to
[01:38:13] use our athletes. So, the international
[01:38:15] game, I think, is becoming way more
[01:38:17] appealing. And to your point about PKs,
[01:38:19] that transcends. You can get someone
[01:38:21] that hates actively hates soccer and if
[01:38:24] they're walking past a bar television
[01:38:27] and they see PK's on, they're going to
[01:38:29] stop. Whereas if it's Golden Goal,
[01:38:31] they'll just keep moving on with their
[01:38:32] day. How did Ted Lasso get the job?
[01:38:36] How would you guys feel about uh the
[01:38:40] Super Bowl being decided in overtime by
[01:38:43] all of the players coming out and having
[01:38:46] to kick the football through a swinging
[01:38:47] tire? Like how I'm asking the question,
[01:38:51] yeah, now I'm not I'm no longer making
[01:38:53] it a the quarterback's throwing it
[01:38:54] through a swinging tire because I think
[01:38:56] we'd all like that. I think all of us
[01:38:58] would enjoy both quarterbacks going at
[01:39:00] each other with a swinging tire, but now
[01:39:02] I'm just making it five guys from each
[01:39:05] team have to come out here and they have
[01:39:08] to kick the ball. Uh they have to kick
[01:39:10] the ball through a swinging tire. How
[01:39:12] would you feel about the Super Bowl
[01:39:13] being decided that way by some sort of
[01:39:15] skills competition?
[01:39:16] But then when you said, "Oh, I have to
[01:39:18] switch it from the quarterback because
[01:39:19] that would be too fun." That's the
[01:39:20] point. That's what PKs are. It's like
[01:39:22] this isn't football, but it's like it's
[01:39:24] fun. And so that's that's the idea
[01:39:26] there. I think people would actually
[01:39:28] like it more than just interminable
[01:39:30] overtime period after overtime period
[01:39:32] after overtime period.
[01:39:33] The Dolphins winning the Super Bowl from
[01:39:36] throwing a ball through a tire be a
[01:39:39] little bit of a letown.
[01:39:41] And and I imagine most of these games
[01:39:44] without the penalty kicks probably end
[01:39:46] on a penalty kick as we saw with Japan
[01:39:49] who is so disciplined. When you get
[01:39:52] fatigued, you make mental mistakes
[01:39:55] uncharacteristically so as Japan made
[01:39:57] one in their own end. You get tired and
[01:39:59] what will happen is you'll have someone
[01:40:01] dragging their leg inside the box and a
[01:40:02] game ends on a PK. Anyways, uh Ju Guu
[01:40:05] put it on the poll. Does fatigue make
[01:40:07] Cedric cowards of us all at Leitard
[01:40:09] show? Uh I wanted to talk about
[01:40:12] something here that uh has escaped a lot
[01:40:14] of attention even though I think it
[01:40:16] deserves more. Uh Clint Eastwood
[01:40:22] is retiring, has retired. Now, there
[01:40:25] seems to be some conjecture in his own
[01:40:27] family about this. He's 96 years old,
[01:40:31] and one of his sons says he's retired,
[01:40:33] and another one of his sons says, "I
[01:40:35] have not heard that come out of his
[01:40:37] mouth." But
[01:40:39] Clint Eastwood has worked for seven
[01:40:44] decades in Hollywood.
[01:40:46] Take a break. That has to be uh one of
[01:40:50] the most prolific careers there have
[01:40:53] been. People in Hollywood talk about the
[01:40:55] way that Clint Eastwood was uh directing
[01:40:58] movies at the end. Have you guys heard
[01:40:59] about how Clint Eastwood directs movies?
[01:41:02] He's he it's like he's running out of
[01:41:03] time. Like he does not go and do the
[01:41:06] perfect shot, the perfect shot, the
[01:41:08] perfect shot. And this may explain why
[01:41:09] so many of his movies recently have been
[01:41:11] bad.
[01:41:11] Ridley Scott's doing the exact same
[01:41:13] thing.
[01:41:13] Just doing it as quickly as he can. But
[01:41:16] 96 years old is an incredible retirement
[01:41:20] age. 96 is nuts. I think juror number
[01:41:24] two is the last movie that he made.
[01:41:26] You know what I think about when I hear
[01:41:27] Clint Eastwood? What
[01:41:28] I always think about him talking to the
[01:41:30] chair.
[01:41:30] The only thing I think
[01:41:31] like yo, I'm sorry. Like I know we're
[01:41:34] supposed to be honoring this guy right
[01:41:35] now. Like what a great career and all
[01:41:36] that. Get out of here man. That dude
[01:41:38] talked to a chair trying to tell us the
[01:41:39] chair is telling us that that's Obama or
[01:41:41] whatever.
[01:41:41] I think of how he became a comedic actor
[01:41:43] in Grand Torino. That movie is
[01:41:44] hilarious.
[01:41:45] I think of Trouble with the Curve with
[01:41:47] Amy Adams and Justin Timberlake.
[01:41:49] I think of The Good and the Bad and the
[01:41:50] Ugly.
[01:41:52] Ah, yeah.
[01:41:52] What's that?
[01:41:54] Million-Dollar Baby.
[01:41:56] So, he's won I I think he's won a couple
[01:41:58] of best picture awards as a director and
[01:42:01] I think he has won a couple of Oscars as
[01:42:04] um the lead as well. Can you look that
[01:42:06] up for me, Jeremy, please? Uh, look up
[01:42:08] for me
[01:42:10] what Clint Eastwood's resume looks like.
[01:42:12] and Roy, you should find the sound. We
[01:42:14] play it all the time. We played it all
[01:42:16] the time on Wild Billy Wednesdays. The
[01:42:19] good, the bad, and the ugly, and the
[01:42:20] spaghetti western is where Clint
[01:42:22] Eastwood made his initial fame. Uh, if I
[01:42:26] if I asked you guys though to take one
[01:42:28] of his movies and make it the thing that
[01:42:30] you remember him by. Uh, not talking to
[01:42:33] a chair, not some of the other stuff
[01:42:35] that's that's apart from that. The
[01:42:38] westerns are so long ago. Like they're
[01:42:40] they're where it is that he broke in.
[01:42:45] That would be my it'd be in my top 100
[01:42:48] movie sounds of all time. Top 50
[01:42:50] probably done this before.
[01:42:51] You can't Well, you just can't do a lot
[01:42:52] better than that.
[01:42:53] Hopefully top 50 is a lot.
[01:42:55] Are you saying like what's his signature
[01:42:56] role? You'll have some people say Dirty
[01:42:58] Hairy, but I This might be a
[01:43:01] generational thing. I know Jeremy hasn't
[01:43:03] seen it, but you guys have seen The
[01:43:04] Good, the Bad, the Ugly, right?
[01:43:06] Trilogy. You haven't, Zaz?
[01:43:08] I don't think I have.
[01:43:08] Zaz ain't about movies, man. Come on.
[01:43:10] Have you seen full of dollars?
[01:43:11] All right, Roy. I tell me you have.
[01:43:14] That's why you're a trivia pick every
[01:43:15] single time. I mean,
[01:43:16] of course, I've seen it.
[01:43:17] It absolutely holds up. It is an
[01:43:20] incredible classic film.
[01:43:22] Unforgiven is his and that's the '9s,
[01:43:24] right? That was Bringing back the
[01:43:26] western that uh that's among the best uh
[01:43:29] modernday westerns if indeed we can I
[01:43:31] don't think we can call 90s modern day
[01:43:33] because it's it's oldies. It did.
[01:43:35] Unforgiven what what were the movies
[01:43:37] that he won Oscars for?
[01:43:39] Mystic River.
[01:43:40] Unforgiven and Milliondollar Baby were
[01:43:42] the only things he won. He won best
[01:43:45] picture and best director for both of
[01:43:47] those. He never won a best actor Academy
[01:43:49] Award.
[01:43:50] He wasn't that great of an actor. We can
[01:43:51] say that, right? He wasn't that great of
[01:43:52] an actor.
[01:43:53] I don't know. There was a really good
[01:43:55] actor.
[01:43:55] No, he wasn't.
[01:43:56] That was Joe Biden.
[01:43:57] I think I think I'm all right.
[01:43:59] That was Joe Biden, not Clint Eastwood.
[01:44:00] It really was Joe Biden.
[01:44:02] You're a good boxer. I think you're
[01:44:04] going to you're going to be all right.
[01:44:06] What else did he win best picture best
[01:44:09] picture for? Because he's got two of
[01:44:11] each. Does he not does he not have
[01:44:13] perpetually nominated?
[01:44:14] It's best picture and best director for
[01:44:16] both of those movies for Unforgiven and
[01:44:18] Million-Dollar Baby. He was nominated uh
[01:44:20] for best picture and best director for
[01:44:22] Mystic River. He did not win that
[01:44:24] for Letters from Euima and he was
[01:44:27] nominated for best picture for American
[01:44:30] Sniper which
[01:44:31] you know
[01:44:32] love that one.
[01:44:33] That's a good one. By the way, John fits
[01:44:35] in perfectly in Portland.
[01:44:36] Yes, he does.
[01:44:37] He did win the Golden Globe for best
[01:44:39] director for Bird for Unforgiven
[01:44:43] for Million-Dollar Baby and he won best
[01:44:46] foreign language film for Letters from
[01:44:48] Euima.
[01:44:49] Nice.
[01:44:53] That's Euima is in Japan.
[01:44:58] Were you saying C like is S E A that
[01:45:00] there's a C near Japan? Like surely you
[01:45:04] were not you were not using Spanish for
[01:45:06] what? What did you think?
[01:45:08] Why? Why did Why did you What happened?
[01:45:09] I didn't hear the title of the film. I
[01:45:11] just He said foreign language and I was
[01:45:13] But where did you think it was?
[01:45:14] Right near Rocky Points.
[01:45:15] I know. I'm not going to take a quiz. So
[01:45:16] you just you just you heard foreign
[01:45:19] languages and you went with the one
[01:45:21] foreign word that you knew which was C.
[01:45:25] Euimo right near the Baja
[01:45:28] Tommo origamo
[01:45:30] uh 96 years old uh at the end here uh
[01:45:35] about a year ago Jean Hackman uh was
[01:45:38] fairly unrecognizable
[01:45:40] in his 90s no longer looked like the
[01:45:42] human being that he used to be. Uh Clint
[01:45:45] Eastwood retiring at the age of 96 is
[01:45:49] fairly extraordinary because he's made a
[01:45:51] movie. When was juror number two uh made
[01:45:53] Jeremy so he's
[01:45:54] that one sucked.
[01:45:55] Yeah, but he was doing movies late into
[01:45:57] his 90s and I I genuinely wonder
[01:46:01] if you're a Hollywood person in charge
[01:46:03] of giving out budget, do you give it to
[01:46:06] the 95y old?
[01:46:09] like because it seem it seems fairly
[01:46:11] dangerous to for a number of different
[01:46:14] reasons that I'm hoping don't sound
[01:46:16] agist but once you've get gotten to 95
[01:46:19] years old I would think that there would
[01:46:20] be dangers in giving a movie project
[01:46:23] over to somebody who might not be able
[01:46:25] to complete it. You're bartering off of
[01:46:27] his name and his name recognition within
[01:46:29] a certain demographic. So all the older
[01:46:32] people who remember Clint Eastwood
[01:46:33] movies will still come out. Maybe it's
[01:46:34] not for a younger demographic, but for
[01:46:36] the people whose name his name resonates
[01:46:38] with because of the great movies that
[01:46:40] he's directed or and slash or produced,
[01:46:43] they'll come out. And that's what all
[01:46:44] Hollywood is now is just like, do you
[01:46:45] have a fan base? Do you have a following
[01:46:47] that will come out and support your
[01:46:49] product?
[01:46:50] Juror number two was 2024.
[01:46:53] So he's 94 years old at the time.
[01:46:55] Man, he deserved a better
[01:46:56] He did Sully.
[01:46:58] He deserved a better goodbye.
[01:47:00] Uh, when you mention I mean what
[01:47:02] Hollywood is doing right now. I assume
[01:47:04] that's what Hollywood and Netflix were
[01:47:06] doing with that godforsaken Tony
[01:47:09] Hingcliffe special which has it been
[01:47:11] taken down because it's so bad because
[01:47:13] it was popular cuz he's got a following.
[01:47:16] But it's an affront to uh standup comedy
[01:47:19] and to specials
[01:47:20] subjective.
[01:47:21] Uh and I I think I think they just
[01:47:23] removed it. I'm stunned that he even put
[01:47:25] it out. I'm assuming it was part of his
[01:47:27] Kill Tony deal. Kill Tony is very
[01:47:29] popular, but the standup special was an
[01:47:31] abomination. It's one of the least well
[01:47:33] done things and lazy on top of that.
[01:47:35] Like spectacularly lazy. It was just
[01:47:38] really bad. I couldn't get through it.
[01:47:40] His his explanation is that he owns the
[01:47:42] rights to it and so the license with
[01:47:44] Netflix expired and that's why it was
[01:47:46] taken down because he owns the rights.
[01:47:48] He can sell it or lease it out somewhere
[01:47:49] else. He could put on his own platform
[01:47:51] and charge people. Again, this is his
[01:47:52] explanation. I'm not I know I don't know
[01:47:54] anybody. I haven't talked to anybody. I
[01:47:56] just just a guy. I mean, he should be
[01:47:57] embarrassed by that. Like, that being
[01:47:59] put out with his name on it is something
[01:48:01] that he should be deeply embarrassed by.
[01:48:03] It is so spectacularly lazy to be
[01:48:06] offensive to anybody who's ever tried
[01:48:08] comedy or knows what the honor of
[01:48:11] getting a special is, but it is it is
[01:48:13] what Netflix is doing some of just
[01:48:15] grabbing people who have social media
[01:48:17] followings and throwing them on there
[01:48:19] because you can bring their audience
[01:48:20] over even if it's lazy and dumb what
[01:48:22] you're doing.
[01:48:23] So, what was your favorite joke, Dan?
[01:48:24] Yeah. I mean, really, we're going to do
[01:48:26] chicken jokes on black people? That's
[01:48:28] what we're going to do? Like, that's
[01:48:29] really what we're going to do. That's
[01:48:31] That's what we're going to do in 2026.
[01:48:34] Yeah.
[01:48:35] The term spaghetti western is because a
[01:48:38] lot of Italians produced and directed
[01:48:40] those movies.
[01:48:41] Yeah.
[01:48:41] Are you just learning this now?
[01:48:43] Are you Let me ask you,
[01:48:44] how old are you?
[01:48:45] Are you a dumb person?
[01:48:46] What's wrong with you?
[01:48:47] Are you a dumb person?
[01:48:48] Dan normally asked me for the origin of
[01:48:50] stuff. I was just getting ahead of a
[01:48:51] dumb person.
[01:48:52] Yeah.
[01:48:53] Yeah. Yeah, my specialty.
[01:48:56] Your Clint Eastwood is Joe Biden. And
[01:48:59] those two PEOPLE GIVE
[01:49:00] JOE BIDEN'S RIGHT HERE, MAN.
[01:49:02] He said Domo origami.
[01:49:04] We weren't supposed to hear the end of
[01:49:05] that. I like
[01:49:06] you pulled away from the mic.
[01:49:07] Tory Oralo
[01:49:08] for Mr. Robato.
[01:49:10] For those of you who want more Chris
[01:49:11] Cody, Pablo Tori finds out features him
[01:49:14] today. Super smart. He stole the show
[01:49:17] Chris Cody did on Pablo Tori finds out
[01:49:19] in an episode uh released today uh where
[01:49:23] he uh cops to lowering Pablo Tori's
[01:49:26] standard because I have to be one of the
[01:49:29] few people in charge of anything who is
[01:49:31] demanding that his employees lower their
[01:49:34] standards because Pablo is going to fry
[01:49:36] if he keeps going at the pace that he is
[01:49:38] going at. He's going he's going to short
[01:49:41] circuit and so I'm actively telling him
[01:49:43] to lower the standard and he does so
[01:49:45] today by featuring prominently Chris
[01:49:47] Cody is right there on Pablo Torey finds
[01:49:50] out right at the center of everything
[01:49:52] although you will be denied his Clint
[01:49:53] Eastwood Joe Biden impersonation that's
[01:49:56] exclusive to this show right here we
[01:49:59] will not farm that out to anybody no one
[01:50:01] else can have Chris Cody's Clint
[01:50:03] Eastwood as Joe Biden
[01:50:05] you give him the milk you can't give
[01:50:06] away the cow
[01:50:07] yeah Yeah.
[01:50:10] Yeah. Cows and hogs kill more people
[01:50:13] than sharks. I cannot believe that. So,
[01:50:16] you guys are not surprised by that at
[01:50:18] all. I'm assuming that when these polls
[01:50:20] when we update these polls with Guju,
[01:50:22] I'm assuming that the American people
[01:50:24] and internationally they will side with
[01:50:26] me. They will be surprised that cows and
[01:50:28] hogs kill more people than sharks. We
[01:50:30] need to start making cow horror movies.
[01:50:32] We need to start making a movie like
[01:50:34] Jaws that is instead moos. Well, I mean,
[01:50:38] well, you got to think of it as a crime
[01:50:39] of opportunity, Dan, right? Like cows
[01:50:41] and and hogs are around people mostly.
[01:50:44] They you very rarely find a wild cow.
[01:50:47] They they exist, right? But like they're
[01:50:49] they're there, right? Meanwhile, sharks,
[01:50:51] they're in the ocean often way way way
[01:50:54] far away from any of us. We don't see
[01:50:56] them most of the time. When they come to
[01:50:57] shore, it's like a shock. Like, oh my
[01:50:59] god, a shark's here. And then you add on
[01:51:00] to that, they don't have a taste for our
[01:51:02] flesh. They really don't like it. Like
[01:51:03] they This is gross. I thought you said
[01:51:05] this is what seal. Well, this doesn't
[01:51:07] taste like seals. It tastes like I don't
[01:51:08] know what that is. That's the shark,
[01:51:10] right? When they taste us, so they don't
[01:51:11] really attack humans because they're not
[01:51:14] interested. Meanwhile, hogs, they've got
[01:51:16] a taste for the flesh.
[01:51:17] Oh, yeah.
[01:51:18] They like it.
[01:51:19] I saw a video the other day, maybe they
[01:51:21] can find it for us, of a guy on a kayak
[01:51:23] who was clearly being trailed by a great
[01:51:26] white shark. Like, the great white shark
[01:51:28] was curious about him. and he's on a
[01:51:30] kayak and the great white shark is
[01:51:32] bigger than the kayak and it's just
[01:51:34] following him to shore and that guy was
[01:51:37] paddling terrified with his GoPro just
[01:51:40] saying, "Oh my god, oh my god." Uh for
[01:51:42] almost an hour just trying to get away
[01:51:45] from a shark that, you know, just was
[01:51:47] super curious about what was happening
[01:51:50] with that kayak and the size of that
[01:51:52] kayak because it probably looked like
[01:51:54] the shape of a seal.
[01:51:55] That's what it is. So they attack
[01:51:56] surfers the most because surfers lie on
[01:51:58] the surfboard and then they paddle. And
[01:52:00] so for a shark that doesn't have great
[01:52:01] eyesight, it's looking up. The sunlight
[01:52:03] is coming down and you see a shadow of
[01:52:05] something very wide and long and then
[01:52:07] little little appendages on the side
[01:52:09] kind of flapping around. It's like, "Oh,
[01:52:10] that's a seal." They go up there. That's
[01:52:12] not What is this? That's what they do.
[01:52:15] So the kayak probably doesn't look quite
[01:52:18] as much like a seal as a surfer on a
[01:52:20] surfboard would, but enough for the
[01:52:21] shark to be like, "What is that?" Why
[01:52:23] does the show always make apologies for
[01:52:25] the shark? I It's sickening.
[01:52:27] I have I have a deal with the sharks.
[01:52:29] Hey, you spit those facts to the the
[01:52:32] people that lost their lives tragically
[01:52:33] on the USS Indianapolis. All right.
[01:52:36] Those sharks seem to like human flesh
[01:52:38] plenty.
[01:52:40] That's a Nicholas Cage vehicle, right?
[01:52:42] It's a historical vehicle. It's
[01:52:44] something that actually happened. But
[01:52:46] yes, there's a movie starring Nicholas
[01:52:47] Cage that documents his tragedy.
[01:52:49] Thank you.
[01:52:51] It's actually pretty good.
[01:52:55] And that is why Chris Cody is starring
[01:52:57] on today's Pablo Tori Finds Out, which
[01:53:00] begins the lowering of Pablo Tori's
[01:53:03] General Standard.
[01:53:04] Bye, Chris.
[01:53:05] Uh, let's uh let's go.
[01:53:06] Can you watch Trigger the Elevator?
[01:53:11] Let's go to the uh the video. grab some
[01:53:13] video for me while you guys are looking
[01:53:15] up that kayaker who's being trailed by a
[01:53:17] great white shark so that I can show it
[01:53:19] to everybody because it's it's
[01:53:21] horrifying. Uh Will Frell, uh Will Frell
[01:53:24] has been uh somebody who has not been
[01:53:26] doing very much lately that has
[01:53:28] resonated. Uh comedy aging uh it usually
[01:53:31] ages poorly and on top of that comedies.
[01:53:36] Huge breaking news out of Washington DC.
[01:53:39] What?
[01:53:39] This one affects every sport, including
[01:53:43] the World Cup. The Supreme Court has
[01:53:47] upheld birthright citizenship, rejecting
[01:53:50] Donald J. Trump's proposed limits.
[01:53:52] Yeah,
[01:53:53] THAT IS MASSIVE. ALL RIGHT.
[01:53:56] YEAH. USA, USA, USA.
[01:54:01] WE did it, y'all.
[01:54:02] Thomas is definitely going to be
[01:54:03] retiring. And that that was done
[01:54:05] apparently in a backroom deal. and
[01:54:07] Donald Trump is going to get another
[01:54:09] young Supreme Court justice. That's
[01:54:12] that's probably the bad news that and he
[01:54:14] was awarded the power to fire any
[01:54:16] independent
[01:54:18] uh evaluator that he sees fit in the
[01:54:20] government.
[01:54:20] But let's be happy today right now. Give
[01:54:23] us our 30 minutes.
[01:54:24] USA
[01:54:25] Flo Balagan, birthright citizen.
[01:54:28] I really thought we were gonna get more
[01:54:30] Bronny James news.
[01:54:31] I was looking for some NBA news.
[01:54:32] Also, Christopher Morurell has signed
[01:54:34] with the New York Mets.
[01:54:36] Yeah,
[01:54:37] Sam rolls brother.
[01:54:38] As I was saying about comedies in
[01:54:41] general uh have uh last 10 years of
[01:54:45] movies, I guess people aren't in the
[01:54:48] mood to laugh or comedy is harder to
[01:54:50] make in movie form. I don't know what
[01:54:53] you guys would say is the best comedy
[01:54:55] made in the last 10 years. if you had to
[01:54:58] make a a choice, the the one that people
[01:55:00] were talking about together at a time,
[01:55:02] uh, you know, was Hangover and Adam
[01:55:05] McCay made an assortment of movies from
[01:55:08] Anchor Man to Step Brothers that, uh,
[01:55:10] that were very popular and responsible
[01:55:12] for Funny for a Generation, but it's
[01:55:15] been about 10 years since any movie like
[01:55:18] that resonated. Will Frell was at the
[01:55:20] center of many of these. What is he
[01:55:22] advertising for here? Do you know what
[01:55:24] this is a commercial for? Well, it's I
[01:55:26] think it's actually a commercial for his
[01:55:28] new show, but it's through Skiims, which
[01:55:30] is Kim Kardashian's underwear brand, and
[01:55:34] apparently they do men's. And he is
[01:55:37] here. What looks to me like a speedo,
[01:55:38] but apparently it's some Skiims
[01:55:40] underwear. And he's just look, he looks
[01:55:43] I mean, who are we kidding here? He
[01:55:44] looks good.
[01:55:45] Well, uh, no, he does not. You must be
[01:55:48] kidding everybody because his face looks
[01:55:50] He's an old man. Look at him. We can all
[01:55:52] hope. How old is he? He's like, is he
[01:55:54] approaching 60? I hope I look like that
[01:55:56] at 60.
[01:55:56] He has to be 60. Has to be.
[01:55:58] No, I Is he I think he's in I'm I would
[01:56:00] guess mid-50s. Uh but those are tighty
[01:56:04] whiteies or tidy whitey adjacent and
[01:56:08] he's doing physical comedy there. His
[01:56:10] face is as thin as it's ever been. Uh
[01:56:12] but those are not flattering. That that
[01:56:15] would be
[01:56:15] 58. Dan,
[01:56:17] so he's my age and
[01:56:19] he's got that belly button you want to
[01:56:20] avoid. There's no doubt about it.
[01:56:21] So he's your age. All right, let's
[01:56:23] compare and contrast. Yeah, similar.
[01:56:25] Getting your tidy whities.
[01:56:26] Yeah. Yeah.
[01:56:27] He's got a great farmer's tan going.
[01:56:29] I'd rather have Will Frell's body
[01:56:31] than my body.
[01:56:32] So, you think that that's what my
[01:56:34] stomach looks like? Cuz it's not what my
[01:56:36] stomach looks like. But now you guys are
[01:56:37] going to force me to do this. Uh that
[01:56:40] that's not a great look for the audio.
[01:56:42] All right. Tomorrow's show. That exact
[01:56:44] outfit.
[01:56:46] I'm adding it to the grit of death.
[01:56:47] That's for sure.
[01:56:48] Damn it. He loves the costume.
[01:56:50] I wouldn't love that costume. He's done.
[01:56:52] He's done it before though. speedo.
[01:56:54] Yeah,
[01:56:54] I have. But I I I trained for that by
[01:56:58] juicing and by doing an assortment of
[01:57:00] body paint and stuff to
[01:57:01] Oh, you're on peptides.
[01:57:02] Distracting techniques and stuff.
[01:57:04] So, you don't want to do it again?
[01:57:06] I mean, a a Speedo is aggressive. I
[01:57:08] don't think I I there not a lot of
[01:57:10] hiding places in a Speedo. I didn't
[01:57:12] think there was any chance I was going
[01:57:14] to lose that bet. It was LeBron and Wade
[01:57:16] and Bosch against Dirk Nitzky and
[01:57:17] Deshawn Stevenson. How did I lose that
[01:57:19] bet? How how did I didn't think there
[01:57:21] was any circumstance in which I would
[01:57:23] lose that bet and I didn't think there
[01:57:24] was any circumstance in which Charles
[01:57:26] Barkley would pay that bet because he
[01:57:27] was going to be in the speedo if he lost
[01:57:29] that bet allegedly. But there's just no
[01:57:32] way that he would have ever been caught
[01:57:33] in a speedo. Although maybe now maybe
[01:57:36] now Charles has lost a ton of weight.
[01:57:38] Charles he he uh in fact
[01:57:40] and you found it.
[01:57:44] Yeah.
[01:57:44] Why was that delivered in Zagaki's
[01:57:46] voice?
[01:57:47] You know why? I I don't know why. I
[01:57:50] don't know why you just did that.
[01:57:52] Sorry, I'm upset at this ruling.
[01:57:56] Call it that.
[01:57:58] Birth citizenship is what you're upset
[01:58:00] about.
[01:58:02] I'm happy about it, man.
[01:58:04] Is that Clint Eastwood?
[01:58:06] No, I'm Joe.
[01:58:07] His impersonation is just his hands.
[01:58:10] Like, if he doesn't know
[01:58:12] if he doesn't do Joe Biden with the
[01:58:15] hands,
[01:58:16] come on, man. We got to come together.
[01:58:18] Hands up, it's Biden. Hands down,
[01:58:21] Clint.
[01:58:23] Why did Pablo ask you on the show again?
[01:58:26] What do you find out together?
[01:58:28] Range.
[01:58:30] Pablo Tori finds out uh features Chris
[01:58:33] Cody today. And I urge you to listen to
[01:58:37] Pablo on Next Steps. Uh because he's
[01:58:40] actually, this one's interesting to me,
[01:58:42] and I don't think it was it would be
[01:58:44] something that would afflict any of us
[01:58:45] here. One of the things that I was
[01:58:46] talking to Pablo about is the idea of
[01:58:49] ambition, how lonely ambition can be and
[01:58:52] how insatiable ambition can be. So
[01:58:55] immediately after winning the Pulitzer,
[01:58:58] a prize that not many people in America
[01:59:00] care about anymore,
[01:59:03] but Pablo cares about it, I care about
[01:59:06] it, and some select journalists care
[01:59:09] about it, although I heard from none of
[01:59:11] them when we won the Pulitzer. Not a not
[01:59:14] a single one. I did not hear from a
[01:59:16] single. What
[01:59:17] disappointed you the most?
[01:59:18] I mean, it's just there's so many so
[01:59:19] many like there's not
[01:59:20] you want to hear from Cornheiser.
[01:59:22] There's not a journalism friend of mine
[01:59:25] who reached out. Not one.
[01:59:27] Not Michael Ke in that movie to the list
[01:59:30] of friends.
[01:59:31] I I they all I guess they all hit me up.
[01:59:33] I was supposed to tell you.
[01:59:35] Nobody reached out. But uh the winning
[01:59:37] of a pulit sir Pablo's immediate
[01:59:39] reaction to that and I found it so
[01:59:41] curious and it's why I'm in the weird
[01:59:43] position of urging him at all times to
[01:59:47] lower his standards slightly so that he
[01:59:49] can be having more fun and so that he
[01:59:51] can turn that into the equivalent of a
[01:59:53] radio show that is personalitydriven
[01:59:56] that doesn't require all of these deep
[01:59:58] dive investigations that take so much
[02:00:01] time. He's doing the hardest thing the
[02:00:04] hardest way. And upon winning the
[02:00:06] Pulitzer, his immediate reaction is now
[02:00:08] what are the expectations now? What's
[02:00:11] the pressure? And I'm like, what are you
[02:00:12] talking about? Like behave like you've
[02:00:15] arrived because you have arrived. You
[02:00:17] have an audience. The hardest thing to
[02:00:19] do, the hardest thing to do in this
[02:00:22] business, an audience that trusts you to
[02:00:25] take them where you're going. There's
[02:00:27] nothing harder. You can go ahead and
[02:00:30] live the rest of your life. You'll find
[02:00:32] nothing harder than finding the audience
[02:00:34] that trusts you so much that they'll be
[02:00:36] loyal to you because they believe that
[02:00:37] the things you're making are things
[02:00:39] worth listening to.
[02:00:40] I can think of something that's a little
[02:00:41] harder. Winning a Pulitzer.
[02:00:43] Yeah,
[02:00:44] I disagree. There are a lot less
[02:00:47] Pulitzer winners than there are people
[02:00:49] with audiences.
[02:00:51] There are not.
[02:00:52] Not even Dave Barry.
[02:00:54] Nobody. I heard from nobody.
[02:00:56] Wow.
[02:00:56] Zero people.
[02:00:57] I really chapped you, huh? I was just
[02:00:59] surprised by it and it just taught me
[02:01:00] seems like it hurt.
[02:01:01] No, it taught me that people don't care
[02:01:03] about this thing anymore. Like it's an
[02:01:05] obvious to me uh it it was more sad for
[02:01:08] the industry than it was uh sad for
[02:01:11] myself because when I called Pablo to
[02:01:13] congratulate him, he had to remind me
[02:01:16] that I had also won a Pulitzer because
[02:01:19] that we had won a Pulitzer because we're
[02:01:21] funding everything that Pablo is doing
[02:01:24] until it has now become a viable
[02:01:26] business. And I'll tell you guys here,
[02:01:28] everyone I talked to, everyone I talked
[02:01:31] to, all of Here's another group of
[02:01:33] friends, my financial friends, my
[02:01:35] financial advisor friends,
[02:01:37] all of them said to me before the
[02:01:39] Pulitzer was won, they're like, "Dan,
[02:01:42] banks don't take awards." Like you, as a
[02:01:45] company, you have to make sure that what
[02:01:47] you're interested in the most is profit,
[02:01:49] not awards. This award though is a
[02:01:52] bankable award, but it's not a bankable
[02:01:55] award that most people who are listening
[02:01:57] to this care about in any way. And I
[02:02:00] would argue I mean an audience that
[02:02:03] trusts you and will go wherever it is
[02:02:05] that you are in sports. I think there
[02:02:07] are fewer of those than you think there
[02:02:09] are when every year there are many
[02:02:11] Pulitzer winners. But there are not many
[02:02:14] audiences in sports that trust their
[02:02:16] host to to wherever that host goes, they
[02:02:19] will follow that host because they trust
[02:02:21] that the things being made will be good
[02:02:23] things.
[02:02:24] I don't know. I mean, Dan, you talk
[02:02:26] about obviously I did a lot of research
[02:02:27] when it happens like how many times does
[02:02:29] a sports story win a Pulitzer? Because
[02:02:31] again, when Pablo told me the news, I
[02:02:33] said, "Wow, that's cool. We won the
[02:02:35] sports Pulitzer." And he said, "No, no,
[02:02:37] there's no such thing as a sports
[02:02:39] Pulitzer. It's just a Pulitzer." And so
[02:02:41] when you look at that, the number of
[02:02:43] stories that are sports related that
[02:02:44] have won are very limited and they're
[02:02:46] usually again stuff that speaks to
[02:02:50] anybody any citizen regardless of
[02:02:53] whether they know or care about the
[02:02:54] sport or not. So a lot of them have
[02:02:56] actually been in local reporting and
[02:02:57] kind of things of that nature. So I I
[02:03:00] don't think when you talk about a sports
[02:03:02] p a a sports story winning a Pulitzer,
[02:03:05] it's comparable to the number of people
[02:03:08] that we know have audiences and we know
[02:03:11] it because they find themselves getting
[02:03:13] all types of deals and stuff because of
[02:03:14] those audiences.
[02:03:15] Fair. Fair enough. Which do you think is
[02:03:17] more valuable? Let's ask the question
[02:03:18] that way. Which do you think is more
[02:03:20] valuable? An audience that trusts you or
[02:03:22] a Pulitzer? Dan, the virtue of having
[02:03:26] something excellent is payment enough.
[02:03:28] Not Jeremy Shapi.
[02:03:32] You don't you don't think, Dan, that
[02:03:33] there's a there's a value that's not I
[02:03:36] know we live in a in a capitalist
[02:03:38] society and we have to monetize
[02:03:39] everything. But isn't there a value in
[02:03:41] there that hey, I don't get an extra
[02:03:43] dollar out of this, but you're going to
[02:03:44] have to call me pull a surprise winning
[02:03:46] amino Hassan for the rest of my life.
[02:03:48] Charles Bricker. Oh,
[02:03:52] what the hell sound was that?
[02:03:55] You remember Charles Bricker?
[02:03:56] You know what I You know who Charles
[02:03:57] Bricker is?
[02:03:58] I don't think anybody is going to be
[02:04:01] calling you Pulitzer Prize winner Amino
[02:04:02] Alassen for the rest of your life.
[02:04:04] They have to.
[02:04:05] What do you mean they have to?
[02:04:06] They have to. I correct them.
[02:04:08] Hey, hey, I'm at a cocktail party. Hey,
[02:04:10] you got to meet my my buddy Amino. Like,
[02:04:13] that's not my name. My name is Pulit
[02:04:15] surprise winning Amino Hat. Are you guys
[02:04:16] going to come up with a comedy in the
[02:04:18] last 10 years that everyone is everyone
[02:04:20] who's listening to this would say, "Yes,
[02:04:21] that's the one. Yes, that's the one.
[02:04:23] That's the that's the movie that was
[02:04:25] made that is funny because that it's a
[02:04:28] fairly startling thing to have happen.
[02:04:29] Don't you think? The the the fact that
[02:04:32] we all kind of want to laugh and movies
[02:04:36] are an escape. So, I would assume that
[02:04:38] during these particular difficult times,
[02:04:41] people would want that escape even
[02:04:43] more." And yet Hollywood is having all
[02:04:46] sorts of trouble making movies that are
[02:04:49] funny.
[02:04:51] I don't know if it's classified as a
[02:04:52] comedy, but I think Barbie was a comedy.
[02:04:54] No.
[02:04:54] Yeah.
[02:04:55] And every and everyone saw that.
[02:04:57] That's a great one. I mean,
[02:04:58] thank you.
[02:04:58] Pulit surprise winner.
[02:04:59] Thank you. See?
[02:05:01] Yeah.
[02:05:01] Uh when I think of Barbie though, I put
[02:05:04] it I put comedy uh a distant second to
[02:05:08] uh of our times and about female
[02:05:11] empowerment making fun of men. Like
[02:05:13] so wait, so comedies can't have a sto a
[02:05:16] message in it.
[02:05:17] Yes, of course they can. But I'm but
[02:05:19] when the message is a serious one about
[02:05:21] our times, it's generally not what I
[02:05:23] associate with. Why you doing that?
[02:05:24] I think comedies are empty calories.
[02:05:26] What do you mean? Why am I doing that? I
[02:05:28] I believe it was nominated by the Golden
[02:05:29] Globes as best picture comedy.
[02:05:31] You know what, Dan?
[02:05:32] So is The Martian, by the way.
[02:05:34] That's not a comedy.
[02:05:35] It was a real knee slapper.
[02:05:36] Why you tearing it down, Dan? Well, YOU
[02:05:38] I MEAN, WHY DO YOU ALWAYS MAY I give you
[02:05:40] some feedback? All right. Can I
[02:05:42] You often do this where you're like, can
[02:05:45] someone answer this question for me? And
[02:05:47] we like we were like, let's get Dan this
[02:05:49] question answer. Let's do our very best.
[02:05:52] Let's put our minds together. Let's give
[02:05:54] him an answer that'll make him proud.
[02:05:55] And you know what he DOES? WHAT DOES HE
[02:05:57] DO?
[02:05:57] NAH, that's not good enough. I'll
[02:05:59] change. Let me move the GOLD POST.
[02:06:01] BARBIE'S A COMEDY.
[02:06:02] PUT it on the poll. Was Barbie a comedy
[02:06:04] at leard show? Uh, and then put it on
[02:06:06] the poll as well. Was Barbie first and
[02:06:08] foremost a comedy?
[02:06:10] THERE YOU GO. YOU'RE YOU'RE LITERALLY
[02:06:12] PICKING UP THE GOLD POST and moving them
[02:06:14] to the next county.
[02:06:20] You know what's funny about that saying?
[02:06:21] You can move the goalposts and the
[02:06:23] scoring place still becomes the same.
[02:06:25] the goal posts like uh you can move the
[02:06:27] goal post all you want, but the goal
[02:06:29] line stays where it is. That's where the
[02:06:30] touchdown is. Move the goal post back
[02:06:32] and forth all you want. The scoring is
[02:06:34] the same at the goal line.
[02:06:35] Why don't you ever get a piece of
[02:06:36] helpful information from us and say,
[02:06:38] "Guys, do
[02:06:42] Yeah.
[02:06:43] What is it that you said? Uh do you
[02:06:45] remember what it is that you said?"
[02:06:46] Don't origamo.
[02:06:50] So, how would you feel about the Super
[02:06:52] Bowl being decided by just bringing the
[02:06:54] kickers out and kicking field goals?
[02:06:56] Many of them are like so many Super
[02:06:59] Bowls are decided this way. So many huge
[02:07:01] games are decided by it.
[02:07:03] In a sumo wrestling match between your
[02:07:05] biggest players in the middle of the
[02:07:07] field, you put a circle. Sumo wrestling.
[02:07:09] If you're if you're arguing whether like
[02:07:11] soccer actually has it right because
[02:07:12] you'll have the moment where Messi or
[02:07:14] Ronaldo step over the ball in the NFL.
[02:07:18] It's not Tom Brady, it's Gustski.
[02:07:22] What if What if the NFL had penalty
[02:07:24] shootouts with field goals, but not with
[02:07:27] the kickers? You got to have like So I
[02:07:29] got to see what kind of Lake Mahomes
[02:07:30] has.
[02:07:32] Zack Cer out there trying to kick a
[02:07:34] field goal. I think it'd be a little bit
[02:07:37] like Greg Cody Terra's quad. Uh, why
[02:07:39] were you on NBA radio arguing pro Messi
[02:07:43] when I think you are America's foremost
[02:07:45] Messi critic? I I Well, I host the show.
[02:07:48] That's why I was on NBA radio. But, uh,
[02:07:51] the So, as I I was mentioning earlier,
[02:07:53] my co-host just could not believe that
[02:07:56] Messi was a far bigger deal than than
[02:07:58] LeBron. And I said, "It's not even
[02:07:59] close." And so, he's like, "Well, what
[02:08:01] about this? What about that?" And so I
[02:08:02] said I says to him what's the second
[02:08:04] biggest sport in the world and he says
[02:08:06] cricket. I said okay yeah cricket's
[02:08:08] number two. Then I said name a cricket
[02:08:11] player.
[02:08:13] He couldn't. I said that's my point that
[02:08:15] you can acknowledge that there's
[02:08:16] something massive out there massive that
[02:08:19] is completely out of your your purview.
[02:08:21] So yes, it is possible that the most
[02:08:24] popular play player, the most popular
[02:08:26] athlete in the world is Leo Messi, even
[02:08:29] though you exist in this bubble where
[02:08:31] LeBron is the biggest thing ever.
[02:08:32] If Messi is the most famous person in
[02:08:35] the world, who's second? Like, do you go
[02:08:38] into entertainment to grab second or is
[02:08:40] it going to always be an athlete? Like
[02:08:42] if Messi is indeed
[02:08:45] the most famous person in the world, uh
[02:08:49] was is second place from sports or is it
[02:08:53] from some place? Is it from music? Is it
[02:08:55] Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't I
[02:08:58] think you can hop into any cab anywhere
[02:09:00] on the planet and strike up a
[02:09:02] conversation about Messi Ronaldo.
[02:09:04] Whereas if you try to enter the very
[02:09:05] same cab and say bad bunny, they may not
[02:09:08] know what you're talking about. But I'll
[02:09:09] tell you what, Michael Jackson, he's not
[02:09:11] alive, but Michael Jackson, absolutely.
[02:09:13] There's not a place on earth where they
[02:09:15] don't even speak English, where they
[02:09:16] don't know Michael Jackson.
[02:09:18] You guys got any nominees for second
[02:09:20] place here? Comment like currently? A
[02:09:23] Roman Reigns Okay.
[02:10:16] want to know, how do you keep it
[02:10:18] interesting? Me, I'm not interested in
[02:10:20] interesting. So, how do you keep it
[02:10:23] predictable? How do you keep it whole?
[02:10:26] How do you just let it just be?
[02:10:30] Was that Jason Tatum asking that
[02:10:31] question,
[02:10:33] young lady?
[02:10:34] You are my kind of gal. That's my lane.
[02:10:39] That's my lane of romance. I invented
[02:10:41] predictable. Nobody has perfected the
[02:10:44] art of dull routine like yours truly. As
[02:10:47] a matter of fact,
[02:10:49] little inside information here. My wife
[02:10:51] and I schedule our our naughty time
[02:10:53] months in advance, like doctor's
[02:10:56] appointments. Quite often she'll have to
[02:10:59] cancel because she said something came
[02:11:01] up. Unfortunately, sometimes I'll have
[02:11:04] to cancel because something didn't come
[02:11:06] up.
[02:11:08] That kind of thing.
[02:11:11] It's good luck for us.
[02:11:13] Do we have another question for the love
[02:11:15] doctor here after such great advice
[02:11:17] with Chris with Chris? Listen.
[02:11:19] Oh, we're doing it, baby.
[02:11:21] What are you guys doing, man?
[02:11:22] Oh, you want question number two?
[02:11:23] Yeah, let's go. Question number two.
[02:11:25] Oh, yeah. Greg.
[02:11:26] Hey, man. I need your help, man. So, I'm
[02:11:27] out of town for Mother's Day. trying to
[02:11:29] figure out what can I get my girl for
[02:11:30] Mother's Day in in another city.
[02:11:34] Oh, wow. Buddy, I'm worried about this.
[02:11:37] Uh, not one but two of the Love Doctor's
[02:11:41] marriages began rending like cheap
[02:11:43] fabric when Greg was either out of town
[02:11:46] at a sporting event or away at a
[02:11:48] doctoral conference. And the exes were
[02:11:52] doing the class clandestine bumpy bump
[02:11:55] behind my back. Jack, I suggest you get
[02:12:00] your girl what you'd never expect, a
[02:12:03] private eye to keep an eye on her Randy
[02:12:06] ass.
[02:12:07] You know about that Randy ass, Nicknick.
[02:12:12] I don't like this at all.
[02:12:16] Thank you, love doctor. Don't go
[02:12:18] anywhere. We may go back to you.
[02:12:19] Appreciate you.
[02:12:20] I don't like this at all.
[02:12:22] Somehow the least embarrassing Cody on
[02:12:25] today's show. Wait till Nick finds out
[02:12:27] that Chris, with Greg sitting nearby,
[02:12:31] admitted about a half an hour ago that
[02:12:33] when he's having a hard time becoming
[02:12:35] aroused, he thinks of his wife's twin
[02:12:38] sister to get in the mood.
[02:12:40] It was a shocking revelation.
[02:12:42] That's what happened, Nick. Shocking.
[02:12:43] That happened. No, he did.
[02:12:45] Yeah, he did.
[02:12:45] Yeah, he did. He did.
[02:12:47] It was shocking.
[02:12:50] Unnecessary. Also,
[02:12:52] I don't like I I
[02:12:54] this isn't again I might need a mean
[02:12:57] here. This isn't kayfab. Kay fabe kab.
[02:13:01] Which is it? I don't know.
[02:13:02] Kabe wrestling nerd here at your
[02:13:03] service.
[02:13:05] Thanks, Mike. Ryan, this isn't kayfabe.
[02:13:07] I don't like this at all
[02:13:10] and I would appreciate if you guys turn
[02:13:12] the music off.
[02:13:15] This is not great.
[02:13:17] So, the Steelers
[02:13:21] Are you ready to do your catchphrases? I
[02:13:23] heard there's some controversy around
[02:13:24] the It's It's the Greg Cody show
[02:13:27] featuring Greg Cody. He is counting down
[02:13:29] his uh top 50 catchphrases of all time.
[02:13:32] It has been a successful monthsl long
[02:13:35] joke. Uh what is the controversy
[02:13:37] surrounding uh your catchphrase list?
[02:13:39] What is the uh issue?
[02:13:41] It's it's big. The controversy is that
[02:13:44] based on quality demand, the catchphrase
[02:13:47] countdown has suddenly increased from a
[02:13:50] top 50 to a top 60.
[02:13:52] What?
[02:13:53] That's right. And it's controversial.
[02:13:55] Of course it is. You told us it was a
[02:13:57] top 50. And we told you. We told you it
[02:14:00] was. We told you it was
[02:14:16] want to tell you again if you wish to be
[02:14:19] helpful uh the fund that David Samson
[02:14:22] has started in the name of his late
[02:14:26] daughter Kira the Kira fund it's K y a
[02:14:31] if it's something that you want to uh
[02:14:34] look up we're going to give you uh the
[02:14:36] information here on the screen and in
[02:14:39] the descriptions uh you will have links
[02:14:42] uh if you want to help uh again this is
[02:14:44] not to help David Samson this is to help
[02:14:47] people uh who are afflicted with this
[02:14:51] rarest of uh brain cancer uh if it's
[02:14:55] something that you wish to uh donate to
[02:14:58] uh David Samson has had his life turned
[02:15:01] around with a cruelty that you would not
[02:15:03] wish on any parent and I'm assuming that
[02:15:06] uh if you're at a funeral, for example,
[02:15:09] you start thinking about the people that
[02:15:11] you love and the people that would hurt
[02:15:14] the most if you lost them. Uh in this
[02:15:17] particular case, if you can imagine a
[02:15:19] parent losing a child at 28 years old, a
[02:15:23] vibrant child, a a a child with a a
[02:15:25] great personality who has her life
[02:15:28] extinguished way too soon. If this is
[02:15:30] something that you wish to help with, he
[02:15:32] is helping the families who need help
[02:15:34] because this will turn your life upside
[02:15:37] down to have to care for something like
[02:15:39] this at a ridiculously unexpected age.
[02:15:43] Yeah, David has actually talked about
[02:15:45] this saying that, you know, he has
[02:15:47] privilege. He has a privilege of money
[02:15:48] to spend to seek the best treatment
[02:15:51] possible. He has a privilege of
[02:15:52] connections. He had people he could call
[02:15:54] and who who do I need to get in contact
[02:15:56] with and where do we need to go? But a
[02:15:58] lot of families that are dealing with
[02:15:59] this do not have those connections, do
[02:16:01] not have those resources at their beck
[02:16:03] and call. So donating to the the Kira
[02:16:06] fund is a great way to help those
[02:16:08] families kind of navigate that stuff.
[02:16:10] Yeah. And just to kind of reiterate what
[02:16:12] you just said, not to make this a
[02:16:14] discussion about health care in this
[02:16:16] country, but I mean I I can't even
[02:16:18] imagine what he was describing the
[02:16:20] trouble that he was having over the last
[02:16:23] 9 months for someone who can totally
[02:16:25] afford whatever her medical costs were
[02:16:29] and to, you know, have to haggle with
[02:16:32] insurance companies. How can how can
[02:16:34] what you're going through not be covered
[02:16:36] by insurance? You have brain cancer, you
[02:16:38] know. Well, we we've talked some about
[02:16:40] this, right? Um I was stunned at the
[02:16:44] number of people in America who were
[02:16:46] just fine with a CEO being assassinated
[02:16:49] in the streets because people are so
[02:16:52] upset about what the health industry,
[02:16:55] health care industry does. It is wildly
[02:16:58] unfair and it is cruel uh to be at your
[02:17:02] most vulnerable state and then have to
[02:17:04] start arguing or haggling over uh costs
[02:17:08] when you've been paying and not needing
[02:17:11] it. Like insurance is uh you know uh
[02:17:14] insurance is something you want to pay
[02:17:16] for your entire life and never have to
[02:17:20] need. But then when you're in a position
[02:17:22] of need and now you have to argue with
[02:17:25] the insurance company when you're
[02:17:27] already broken, scared, and at your most
[02:17:30] vulnerable. I do understand the
[02:17:33] sentiment uh that is ragefilled because
[02:17:36] the insurance industry is so often an
[02:17:39] incredible poisonous scam that I get how
[02:17:42] it is that people arrive there, but
[02:17:44] think of the absurdities as of where
[02:17:46] you're arriving. you're good with
[02:17:48] coldblooded murder in the streets
[02:17:50] of somebody because you're so frustrated
[02:17:53] with what he represents
[02:17:55] as a symbol. Uh I've had trouble the
[02:17:58] last couple of days uh and I'm not going
[02:18:00] to get any better at it segueing from
[02:18:02] the serious subject matter and the
[02:18:04] tragic subject matter because we're most
[02:18:06] of us are spending our Sunday out there
[02:18:09] with David Samson around an enormous
[02:18:12] amount of grief. But I'm going to segue
[02:18:15] back into the nonsense of the day that
[02:18:17] we tackle around here. And I don't think
[02:18:20] I'm ever going to get any better at
[02:18:22] doing the transitions on that. But if
[02:18:25] you want to help, uh the name is Kira K
[02:18:28] y a and her fund is someplace where uh
[02:18:33] you can help. Uh Vinnie Goodwill
[02:18:36] on Get Up uh says uh of Jaylen Brown,
[02:18:41] quote, "If they're tired of Jaylen
[02:18:44] Brown, that's their business. But
[02:18:47] leaving him out there like this when
[02:18:49] he's put so much equity into this team,
[02:18:52] into this franchise, is disrespectful
[02:18:55] and embarrassing." So now
[02:18:59] Vinnie Goodwill is arguing that not only
[02:19:02] does Jaylen Brown have a right to be
[02:19:05] hurt, Jaylen Brown also has a right to
[02:19:09] the Boston Celtics doing this quickly so
[02:19:12] that they're not disrespecting and
[02:19:14] embarrassing him.
[02:19:17] Well, I mean quickly free agency starts
[02:19:20] today.
[02:19:21] How the draft was a week ago. How how
[02:19:25] quick is quickly? It literally hasn't
[02:19:27] started yet for you.
[02:19:28] Is this disrespectful and embarrassing?
[02:19:30] Yes or no?
[02:19:30] I'm going no. He is not the first player
[02:19:33] in the history of the NBA who's really
[02:19:35] good and might get traded or has been
[02:19:38] traded or has been talked about getting
[02:19:39] traded. And I'll go back to that's what
[02:19:42] the money's for.
[02:19:44] That's what the money's for.
[02:19:45] At no point has he been don't trade me.
[02:19:48] In fact, quite the opposite. He did the
[02:19:50] superstar thing where I just had the
[02:19:52] most fun I had and we all very easily
[02:19:54] deduced what he was saying.
[02:19:57] Maybe the franchise that doesn't hang
[02:19:59] division championship banners, that
[02:20:01] doesn't hang Eastern Conference
[02:20:02] championship banners, that only hangs
[02:20:04] championship banners, didn't appreciate
[02:20:07] his favorite year being when they lost
[02:20:09] in the first round. Maybe. Maybe.
[02:20:11] I mean, what is Jaylen Brown's value? Uh
[02:20:14] because
[02:20:16] if he's your best player, you're not
[02:20:18] good enough. And I don't mean that as an
[02:20:20] affront to Jaylen Brown.
[02:20:23] I I think I think yeah, he could make an
[02:20:25] argument. What do you mean we're not
[02:20:26] good enough? I won finals MVP. I was the
[02:20:28] best player on the team that won a
[02:20:29] championship.
[02:20:31] He won finals MVP the way Andre Guadalo
[02:20:34] won finals MVP.
[02:20:35] No, no, no. And Andre Gdalo won because
[02:20:38] of a very specific circumstance where
[02:20:40] people Yeah, there it is. Yep.
[02:20:42] No one thinks he's their best player. No
[02:20:44] one.
[02:20:44] That's a problem on a lot of people.
[02:20:46] No one thinks Jaylen Brown is Boston's
[02:20:47] best player. He was their he was their
[02:20:49] best player this season for the regular
[02:20:52] season. He was their best player in
[02:20:53] those playoffs in 2024. If you look at
[02:20:55] the totality of those playoffs, he
[02:20:56] outplayed Jason Tat.
[02:20:57] They wouldn't be trading him if they
[02:20:59] thought he was their best player.
[02:21:01] I think I think there's a
[02:21:02] gota
[02:21:04] Well, the other player hasn't said he
[02:21:05] wants out in so many words.
[02:21:08] And al also I one could argue that the
[02:21:10] best trade value is the guy who's
[02:21:12] healthy and productive, not the guy come
[02:21:13] back.
[02:21:14] What's his value? Tell me what his value
[02:21:15] is. because it wasn't enough to land
[02:21:17] onto Takumpo. What's his value?
[02:21:20] Yeah, I I think that's that's a
[02:21:22] different story, right? Because and I
[02:21:24] told you guys this, Milwaukee was not
[02:21:26] looking to be status quo.
[02:21:28] I mean, if I may, wouldn't it be enough
[02:21:30] to acquire Giannis if Milwaukee wanted
[02:21:34] Jaylen Brown?
[02:21:35] Right.
[02:21:35] And the reason why they don't want him
[02:21:36] is not because of his skill level. It's
[02:21:38] because they're just doing something
[02:21:40] different with their franchise. They're
[02:21:41] like, "This guy is too good. he stands
[02:21:43] in the way of our ultimate goal of a
[02:21:45] full rebuild,
[02:21:46] right? They they prioritize picks and
[02:21:48] young players in order to help them kind
[02:21:51] of rebuild this thing. And Jaylen Brown,
[02:21:54] while a great player, he's only two
[02:21:56] years younger than Giannis. I don't
[02:21:57] think people realize that. We think of
[02:21:58] Jaylen Brown as super young and Giannis
[02:22:00] this old man, it's only a two-year
[02:22:01] difference between the two of them. And
[02:22:03] so Milwaukee, very rightfully so, looked
[02:22:05] at it and said, "Look, we were barely
[02:22:06] 500 with Giannis. If we just swap out
[02:22:09] Giannis for Jaylen Brown, that doesn't
[02:22:11] help us. Like at best we're around where
[02:22:13] we are right now and that's not going to
[02:22:14] help us. It's not that he wasn't enough
[02:22:16] for Giannis as a return on value. It's
[02:22:19] that they weren't looking for another in
[02:22:22] his prime player. They were looking for
[02:22:24] the opportunity.
[02:22:24] I think people are going to be surprised
[02:22:26] by how little they get in return for
[02:22:29] Jaylen Brown. I think that it's not
[02:22:31] going to be what uh what a superstar
[02:22:34] would normally get at 29 years old. Do
[02:22:36] you think I have that wrong?
[02:22:37] I think you have that wrong.
[02:22:38] What So what do you think they're going
[02:22:39] to get then? what who's going to where's
[02:22:42] the team that's doing it and saying you
[02:22:44] know what Jaylen Brown is our last piece
[02:22:48] or what's the team that's out there
[02:22:50] saying Jaylen Brown is good enough to be
[02:22:52] our best player we'll take our
[02:22:54] championship chances with Jaylen Brown
[02:22:56] being our best player
[02:22:57] so there are two teams right now that
[02:22:59] are in talks Portland is one and the
[02:23:00] Clippers are the other and they're both
[02:23:02] fit the profile Portland is a team like
[02:23:04] we've got some young pieces here we made
[02:23:06] the playoffs last year now we're looking
[02:23:08] to take a leap can we take some of these
[02:23:10] young pieces amalgamate them and go out
[02:23:12] and get our star player in Jaylen Brown.
[02:23:14] The Clippers, different story, right?
[02:23:16] They're trying to extricate themselves
[02:23:18] from the Kawhi Leonard era. They've uh
[02:23:20] already, as Jeremy informed us earlier,
[02:23:22] they've let him know that they're not
[02:23:24] going to extend him. He's going to go to
[02:23:25] Toronto to get Brandon Ingram and then
[02:23:27] maybe you get Jaylen Brown in there as
[02:23:29] well. And now the Clippers have rebuilt
[02:23:30] themselves once again. You're you're
[02:23:33] painting a picture that kind of is
[02:23:35] reminiscent of what the Grizzlies went
[02:23:37] through with John. That's not the case.
[02:23:39] There is a market for this guy. There is
[02:23:40] an appetite for this guy. But obviously
[02:23:43] the things that complicate the situation
[02:23:45] for Boston is Boston is not in
[02:23:47] Milwaukee's place where it's like, "Oh,
[02:23:48] just give us young players and picks."
[02:23:50] Boston's like, "Oh, no. We're trying to
[02:23:51] win right now." And so moving him cannot
[02:23:54] be a long-term play for them. It has to
[02:23:57] be something that delivers something in
[02:23:58] the near future.
[02:23:59] But who's the player that they're going
[02:24:00] to get? When you say if they go to
[02:24:02] Portland or they go to Clippers and
[02:24:05] you're telling me, "No, I expect them to
[02:24:06] get the Hall." What's the hall? What's
[02:24:08] the hall that you think Jaylen Brown's
[02:24:11] gonna bring back if Portland and the
[02:24:13] Clippers are the ones involved and they
[02:24:14] don't have all that much to give? By the
[02:24:17] way, Atlanta is another team that I I
[02:24:18] forgot to mention is also involved or
[02:24:22] interested. Uh look, Tummani Kamara and
[02:24:25] Shaden Sharp and like guys like that. I
[02:24:27] mean, they they have players. Scoot
[02:24:29] Anderson, I have to believe, would be
[02:24:30] available. You went out and got Jaw. I I
[02:24:32] can't believe that you hold on to him
[02:24:34] and keep Scoot, another non-shooting
[02:24:36] point guard on your roster. So, they've
[02:24:38] got things that they can offer. They've
[02:24:40] got assets they can offer. But again, I
[02:24:43] think the definition of Hall gets
[02:24:45] complicated because Boston is not a team
[02:24:47] that's saying, "Well, back to the
[02:24:48] drawing board." They're saying, "Hey,
[02:24:50] we're trying to reload for another run
[02:24:51] in the champ."
[02:24:52] I don't think the Clippers and Portland
[02:24:53] have the things that make them better
[02:24:54] than what Jaylen Brown makes them. Do
[02:24:56] you?
[02:24:57] It might be a bigger deal. It might be
[02:24:58] something that involves a third team, a
[02:24:59] fourth team. All I'm saying is you, the
[02:25:02] picture that you're painting, I'm not
[02:25:03] here to tell you, hey, they're going to
[02:25:04] he's going to get traded for this or
[02:25:05] that. don't like doing the hypothetical
[02:25:07] trade game. I like dealing in reality.
[02:25:09] The reality is he is going to fetch
[02:25:12] something nice for them. The question is
[02:25:15] where is it going to come from? Is it
[02:25:17] going to be a multi-tamed deal? Uh but
[02:25:20] he has value for No, that's
[02:25:21] I'm not saying he doesn't have value. I
[02:25:23] think people are going to be surprised
[02:25:24] at how little comes in return for a
[02:25:27] Finals MVP who is ostensibly still in
[02:25:30] his prime.
[02:25:30] What does little mean for you? I I mean
[02:25:32] a name that makes you think Boston is
[02:25:35] now a contender and better than they
[02:25:37] were with Jaylen Brown. A name that
[02:25:39] makes Boston look like they're better
[02:25:41] than they already are. I don't think
[02:25:42] they're going to get something better in
[02:25:44] return. Like something that gets Boston
[02:25:47] excited about Yeah, I think we're a good
[02:25:50] deal be or better at all than we just
[02:25:52] were having this person on our team. I
[02:25:55] don't think that the name that comes
[02:25:56] back, especially because one of the
[02:25:58] things that's happening here right now
[02:26:00] is you think that as they get to survey
[02:26:03] the entirety of the market, they're
[02:26:05] creating more and more options. I think
[02:26:07] he's been available long enough now to
[02:26:10] show you that they're not getting back
[02:26:12] something that excites them. He was
[02:26:14] available long enough. Most of that long
[02:26:16] enough was to get Giannis out of the
[02:26:18] Kmpo. That happened a week ago. They
[02:26:19] were they were famously not reaching out
[02:26:21] to third parties because Boston didn't
[02:26:23] want to be put in the position now where
[02:26:24] I imagine you're you're landing on on
[02:26:27] this hypothesis, Dan, because Boston
[02:26:29] doesn't have a lot of leverage here.
[02:26:31] They've kind of botched this situation
[02:26:33] and teams may know that and that's
[02:26:35] probably why you think the offer won't
[02:26:37] reflect that. But the only superstar
[02:26:39] that we know to be available right now
[02:26:41] that is in the class of Jaylen Brown is
[02:26:43] Kawhi Leonard and that is obviously
[02:26:45] complicated. Maybe they don't get
[02:26:47] something that can plug the hole of
[02:26:48] Jaylen Brown and and impress you with a
[02:26:51] name that's like, "All right, Boston's
[02:26:52] here." That's a great player to pair
[02:26:54] with Jason Tatum, but they can get
[02:26:55] something in return that when the next
[02:26:57] disgruntled superstar arrives and it's
[02:27:00] only a matter of months because someone
[02:27:02] will be available at the deadline, they
[02:27:03] have something in their arsenal that can
[02:27:05] help them acquire them. Isn't it less
[02:27:07] about being surprised what they're going
[02:27:08] to get for Jaylen Brown, what he's
[02:27:11] worth, and more about everyone out there
[02:27:13] knows the Celtics are up against it now
[02:27:15] so they can lowball the Celtics because
[02:27:18] they have to get rid of Jaylen Brown.
[02:27:20] I think we are making a massive leap
[02:27:21] also in assuming that he's on the block
[02:27:24] and on the move. That's not necessarily.
[02:27:26] You think it's possible that he's back
[02:27:27] there?
[02:27:28] Yeah.
[02:27:28] Oh, I think no chance.
[02:27:29] Yeah, I do.
[02:27:31] We went through this with Kevin Durant
[02:27:32] in Brooklyn. Like he got traded
[02:27:33] eventually, but he didn't get traded
[02:27:35] immediately. He came back and it was,
[02:27:37] "Oh, there's no way he could come back."
[02:27:38] He came back and he played and he played
[02:27:39] well. And then he got traded and they
[02:27:40] got a pretty good hall for him from
[02:27:41] Phoenix.
[02:27:42] Was the Weird Al Yanovic movie funny?
[02:27:45] It was very funny, but I don't think a
[02:27:47] lot of people saw it. It was very funny
[02:27:49] and very well done. Harry Potter does a
[02:27:51] great Weirdowl.
[02:27:52] Why would you have seen that movie?
[02:27:53] BECAUSE I'M A MOVIE GUY'S ASS. I'M NOT A
[02:27:55] FRAUD LIKE YOU.
[02:27:58] I'm fairly startled that I gave you 10
[02:28:01] years of comedies to choose from and
[02:28:03] that's what you came up with.
[02:28:05] I came up with Barbie and you didn't
[02:28:06] like that one.
[02:28:07] Pop Star Never Stop Stopping. That was
[02:28:09] I like that. That movie was good.
[02:28:10] That was exactly That was in 2016. So,
[02:28:12] we are
[02:28:13] It was a long time ago, but that's a
[02:28:15] good movie. Uh-oh.
[02:28:16] Breaking news. The Miami Heat have made
[02:28:18] a transaction. They will be bringing
[02:28:20] back Simone Fontio.
[02:28:23] Wow. How much
[02:28:25] shooting reinforcements, Dan?
[02:28:27] Uh what did you make of the contract uh
[02:28:30] that Andrew Wiggins got here? I mean
[02:28:33] they uh ressigned Andrew Wiggins for
[02:28:35] three years, which doesn't necessarily
[02:28:38] mean that he'll be here for three years
[02:28:40] because it's it's backloaded in a way
[02:28:42] that's going to make that contract
[02:28:44] something that people will want to trade
[02:28:46] for in the next couple of years.
[02:28:48] So Andrew Wiggins had a player option
[02:28:50] for $30.1 million, right? And we got the
[02:28:54] story yesterday. Oh, we signed an
[02:28:56] extension. It total value is $64
[02:29:00] million. So, everyone leapt to the idea
[02:29:01] of, oh, Andrew Wiggins opted out, took a
[02:29:04] pay cut, dropped them down, $10 million
[02:29:06] gives them more breathing room to spend
[02:29:07] under this hard cap of 209 mil. Well,
[02:29:10] that's not what happened. What happened
[02:29:11] was he opted in. He's getting all 30.1
[02:29:14] of those million dollars, but then the
[02:29:16] next two years after that, 17 and 17
[02:29:18] with a player option on the last one.
[02:29:20] So, I feel like this is a very silent
[02:29:23] signal as to the Heat are showing us
[02:29:26] what their plan is. And their plan is
[02:29:28] look, $29 million hard cap. There's no
[02:29:31] way to get creative around it. It's $29
[02:29:33] million. There's only so much good of a
[02:29:36] roster that we can build with that
[02:29:37] constraint. So, this is a multi-year
[02:29:41] process.
[02:29:41] Why you saying it like that?
[02:29:42] Right? Because I trying to appeal to
[02:29:44] you. Uh so by virtue of structuring the
[02:29:48] deal this way, it's an acceptance that
[02:29:50] hey, we're not going to get a perfect
[02:29:51] championship team this year. We'll get
[02:29:52] something competitive. We'll start
[02:29:54] building some stuff. But next year, next
[02:29:56] year now his salary drops almost half
[02:29:59] from 30 to 17. We're going to have so
[02:30:02] much more flexibility to really build
[02:30:04] this thing out and go be aggressive in
[02:30:06] free agency in 2027 and or in trades.
[02:30:09] And they could also trade him right now
[02:30:10] since this isn't technically a new
[02:30:11] contract. Like he just opted in. So they
[02:30:14] can actually trade him right now when
[02:30:15] otherwise they would have to wait till
[02:30:16] what like mid December.
[02:30:18] I do not believe for one second that the
[02:30:21] Miami Heat are playing for two years
[02:30:24] from now. I do not believe that they did
[02:30:28] what they just did a little more
[02:30:29] desperate than they would have liked to
[02:30:31] have done it because they threw two
[02:30:32] pieces in there that they did not want
[02:30:34] to throw in there. Two pieces that were
[02:30:36] not in there six months ago.
[02:30:38] Yakenunis.
[02:30:39] Well, and and Hakez. They didn't want
[02:30:41] they didn't want to trade Hakez. He was
[02:30:43] not a part of what the original deal
[02:30:45] was. I
[02:30:45] tell you some seen some offseason stuff.
[02:30:48] Yakenunis looks good.
[02:30:49] Yeah, he's good. He's a good player.
[02:30:51] Dan, the job of a front office is to
[02:30:54] have to have that long-term vision when
[02:30:56] everyone else is clamoring for right
[02:30:58] now. Now, now you can say, "Oh, I don't
[02:30:59] believe that they would do it." But the
[02:31:01] reality is that contract tells you
[02:31:03] everything. That contract tells you
[02:31:04] everything. They set it up on purpose
[02:31:06] this way for the ability for them to
[02:31:09] have flexibility next year.
[02:31:11] Understanding again, usually when we're
[02:31:13] talking about the salary cap, uh it's a
[02:31:15] soft cap in the NBA. You can figure out
[02:31:16] a way. You can overspend or whatever.
[02:31:18] We'll go to second apron. All these kind
[02:31:19] of options. That option is not available
[02:31:21] to the Miami Heat this year. For the
[02:31:23] entirety of the season, they are going
[02:31:24] to be stuck at $29 million, the absolute
[02:31:27] maximum they can spend.
[02:31:29] The thing with the Heat and their free
[02:31:31] agency next year is that they've been
[02:31:33] setting up salary capwise for next year
[02:31:36] forever. The only two guys who are under
[02:31:38] contract going into next season at the
[02:31:40] moment are Bameio and Nikolovic.
[02:31:43] You think they'll keep Giannis?
[02:31:44] If they're able to move off of that
[02:31:46] contract, that puts them at one guy
[02:31:48] outside of Giannis. So, Da'Von Mitchell,
[02:31:50] a free agent headed into next year,
[02:31:52] they're going to have all sorts of
[02:31:53] spaces to play, which is why several
[02:31:56] months ago when we were talking about
[02:31:58] the possibility of Norman Powell coming
[02:32:00] back to Miami, we're all saying only if
[02:32:03] it's on a one-year deal. The Naked Gun
[02:32:06] remake. That was good. That was great.
[02:32:08] Liam Niss surprised me there. Did he
[02:32:11] surprise you? Put it on the poll at
[02:32:13] Leitard show. Did Liam Niss surprise you
[02:32:15] in the Naked Gun remake?
[02:32:17] No, because I'm a movie guy.
[02:32:18] No, no, no, no, no, no,
[02:32:21] no, no, no, no, no. You've gone too far.
[02:32:23] Please get That's the best comedy that
[02:32:25] Liam Niss's ever made. Go get that sound
[02:32:27] for me of Liam Niss
[02:32:29] What was your second favorite?
[02:32:30] Being asked to take a pay cut. Uh, that
[02:32:32] was Liam Niss in Naked Gun Remake was
[02:32:35] the second best comedy that Liam Niss
[02:32:37] has made in the last couple of years.
[02:32:39] Can you update us on the polls from
[02:32:41] today, Jeremy, because Guju has to be
[02:32:43] out and we've got morally abhorrent in
[02:32:45] the postgame today. Mike's going to do
[02:32:47] that live so that you can get your
[02:32:49] soccer fix around here. And I've got a
[02:32:50] soccer question I want to ask the group
[02:32:52] here. But just update the polls from
[02:32:54] today, please.
[02:32:55] Are you surprised cows and hogs kill
[02:32:57] more people than sharks?
[02:32:59] This a big one. 70.5% of the audience
[02:33:02] says no.
[02:33:04] No,
[02:33:04] we're learned.
[02:33:06] Is Cedric Coward the worst name in
[02:33:08] sports?
[02:33:10] 68% of the audience says yes.
[02:33:13] Yeah.
[02:33:16] Does fatigue make Cedric cowards of us
[02:33:19] all?
[02:33:19] That's a good question.
[02:33:20] 87% of the audience says yes.
[02:33:23] Yeah.
[02:33:24] Was Barbie a comedy?
[02:33:27] 83% of the audience says yes.
[02:33:29] Yeah. Sorry, Dan.
[02:33:30] Was Barbie first and foremost a comedy?
[02:33:33] Huge distinction.
[02:33:34] 75% of the audience says yes.
[02:33:37] Yeah,
[02:33:38] those are your polls.
[02:33:39] Uh, do you have any observations from
[02:33:41] yesterday's show? This is something
[02:33:42] Yeah, I'm glad we're getting to them
[02:33:43] now.
[02:33:44] It's a little late in today's show to
[02:33:46] talk about yesterday's show, but what
[02:33:48] are the observations that you have from
[02:33:50] yesterday's show? I was really confused
[02:33:52] how you were projecting all of analytics
[02:33:55] onto one guy that Bobby Marx had cited
[02:33:58] and you were just like just standing
[02:34:01] your ground on that one no matter how
[02:34:03] many great points were made around you
[02:34:05] about how it was wrong and I actually
[02:34:07] really appreciate it just that you were
[02:34:09] moving the goalposts and locking in. Um
[02:34:12] Robin is not a superhero but he is a
[02:34:14] hero. This is similar to the way that
[02:34:16] like superstars and stars exist in the
[02:34:18] NBA. They select Nicol Yokic superstar
[02:34:20] Jamal Murray's star.
[02:34:22] And if you like heroes, come out to Las
[02:34:23] Rosas today because I will definitely be
[02:34:25] playing Chad Kroger's hero.
[02:34:28] Dan, do you dislike broccoli or is it
[02:34:30] just broccolini?
[02:34:32] I'm fine with broccoli. It's broccolini.
[02:34:34] It's too bitter. Rich man's.
[02:34:35] Okay. Yeah, I was I just needed to be
[02:34:37] sure. I was surprised nobody asked that
[02:34:38] followup. Um my nomine similar though.
[02:34:41] Broccolini and broccoli don't taste
[02:34:43] anything alike.
[02:34:44] That's why that's why I asked the
[02:34:45] followup.
[02:34:46] I don't know why it's broccolini. I
[02:34:47] don't know. Is broccolini in the
[02:34:48] broccoli family? Like what is broccoli
[02:34:50] look like a wild it's like a crazy it's
[02:34:53] almost impossible.
[02:34:54] Have you seen Victor Womenyama's brother
[02:34:56] Oscar Womenyama? He looks just like him
[02:34:58] but he's not as tall. So Broccolini is
[02:34:59] like the Victor Womenyama and then
[02:35:01] Broccoli's Oscar women
[02:35:02] kissing cousins.
[02:35:03] I'm looking it up now. I'll figure that
[02:35:05] out after. Um I think the vuella is the
[02:35:09] worst instrument if it if it classifies
[02:35:11] as an instrument. It
[02:35:12] doesn't.
[02:35:13] Um but I mean it is. It's absolutely an
[02:35:15] instrument. It's a plastic tube.
[02:35:18] Is a kazoo an instrument?
[02:35:21] Nobody takes fu za lessons. Don't be
[02:35:23] stupid.
[02:35:24] Well, you don't have to take a lesson
[02:35:25] for it to be an instrument.
[02:35:28] You got your ass, Jeremy. Move on.
[02:35:30] Okay. Uh Pablo has me fully convinced
[02:35:32] that this Kawaii trade to Toronto is
[02:35:34] just a total cover up to get out of
[02:35:36] everything. Like the way it was all laid
[02:35:37] out yesterday. The fact that they're
[02:35:39] going to end up with Kawaii and all of a
[02:35:41] sudden a place he never wanted to be,
[02:35:43] but now he's cool with extending there
[02:35:45] and the Clippers wouldn't extend. It all
[02:35:46] feels like BS and I can't believe that
[02:35:48] this is how this is all going to work
[02:35:49] out.
[02:35:49] How are they going to do that? Uh, do
[02:35:51] you think they're going to try and dump
[02:35:52] this news dump this on Friday? Like, is
[02:35:54] Kawaii going to end up getting traded
[02:35:56] and then they're just going to announce
[02:35:57] the penalty and they're all going to
[02:35:58] dump it on Friday?
[02:35:59] I think they're going to do it in the
[02:36:01] middle of the frenzy of transactions
[02:36:03] just to cover up their scent.
[02:36:05] Where does broccoli rob fall into the
[02:36:07] discussion?
[02:36:09] It's sort of like broccolini. It's the
[02:36:11] same kind of bitter and I don't like
[02:36:13] that very much either. Are you done with
[02:36:15] your observations, Jeremy, or do you
[02:36:16] have any other
[02:36:17] last one? More.
[02:36:18] Man, that North Carolina team with Ed
[02:36:20] Davis was so fun. That won the
[02:36:23] championship. It was Ty Lawson, Danny
[02:36:25] Green, Wayne Ellington, Tyler Hanssbro.
[02:36:27] You had Tyler Zeller on that team as
[02:36:29] well. Oh my god, I love North Carolina
[02:36:32] basketball as a kid.
[02:36:33] Ty Lawson in college. One of the fastest
[02:36:34] human beings I've ever seen in my entire
[02:36:36] life. And if you didn't think Kendall
[02:36:38] Marshall a few years later was going to
[02:36:39] be the next Rajan Rondo, you weren't
[02:36:41] watching Carolina basketball.
[02:36:42] By the way, Ty Lawson, I remember his
[02:36:44] pre-draft workout is when an 18-year-old
[02:36:47] Drew Holidayiday put him in handcuffs.
[02:36:49] He was like, "This is this guy won the
[02:36:51] national championship." And this
[02:36:52] 18-year-old who barely got off the bench
[02:36:54] at UCLA was just so dominant. It was
[02:36:57] like, it was one of the greatest
[02:36:58] workouts I've ever seen.
[02:37:00] Uh Roy, can you please play for us the
[02:37:02] single funniest thing Liam Niss has ever
[02:37:04] done? There's a lot of discussion about
[02:37:06] it and a lot of healthy and necessary
[02:37:10] discussion about it because the
[02:37:11] disparity sometimes is
[02:37:14] disgraceful.
[02:37:16] How do you think we can move past that?
[02:37:18] We're starting we're starting and it has
[02:37:20] to start, you know, and it's it's
[02:37:22] starting with these extraordinary
[02:37:23] actresses and brave ladies and and uh
[02:37:27] and we as men have got to be part of it.
[02:37:29] You know, we started it. So, we have to
[02:37:33] be part of the solution. So would you
[02:37:35] take a pay cut to kind of equal things
[02:37:37] out?
[02:37:37] No pay cut. No, no, no, no, no. That's
[02:37:40] gone too far. Um, no. There has to be
[02:37:44] parody. There just has to be.
[02:37:47] You ain't lying.
[02:37:48] He just said though that men we have to
[02:37:50] be part of it.
[02:37:52] No.
[02:37:52] Yeah, but they should get paid more is
[02:37:54] his point. Why would No.
[02:37:57] Why is it coming out of my paycheck?
[02:37:59] It's a good point. It's like, yeah, they
[02:38:01] need to get paid more. How about the
[02:38:02] people who doing the paying? You could
[02:38:04] pay them more as opposed to keeping your
[02:38:05] profit.
[02:38:06] But he just said we need to do our part.
[02:38:08] No, he said men, we as men
[02:38:11] speaking out,
[02:38:11] the men that are doing the hiring and
[02:38:13] the paying of such,
[02:38:15] not the actors, not male actors, male
[02:38:17] executives.
[02:38:18] No, no, no, no, no.
[02:38:22] Pay cut. That's That might be my
[02:38:23] favorite part. I' We've fixated on the
[02:38:25] no for years, but
[02:38:26] it's the timing of the no.
[02:38:28] Hearing hearing it again,
[02:38:29] instantaneous
[02:38:30] hearing it again, it really hits all of
[02:38:32] that. That's the part though. The part
[02:38:34] that gets me every time is the is the
[02:38:36] cadence shift from how optically correct
[02:38:40] he was before that and how he gave no
[02:38:43] thought meaningfully to pausing at that
[02:38:47] question.
[02:38:47] No pay cut. No, no, no, no, no. Right.
[02:38:51] So it it it took him a back.
[02:38:54] He was he like
[02:38:55] he had to resay it.
[02:38:56] No, I don't think it took him a back. He
[02:38:58] was ready for it. Like usually when
[02:39:00] someone has a followup like no like that
[02:39:04] was a crazy like hey do you want bread
[02:39:06] note
[02:39:07] dude
[02:39:08] like fish note
[02:39:09] that was like the Iceman saying hang
[02:39:10] tough
[02:39:11] hang tough tough
[02:39:13] the same tone of hang tough like pay cut
[02:39:17] you lost your mind
[02:39:21] I just want to play the whole thing
[02:39:22] again so that people can hear how little
[02:39:26] of a pause there was when She asked him
[02:39:30] that question because it was real and
[02:39:32] true indignance that he has considered
[02:39:35] this and when he considered it he
[02:39:38] rejected it out of hand.
[02:39:39] There's a lot of discussion about it and
[02:39:41] a lot of healthy unnecessary discussion
[02:39:44] about it because the disparity sometimes
[02:39:47] is disgraceful.
[02:39:50] How do you think we can move past that?
[02:39:52] We're starting. We're starting and it
[02:39:54] has to start, you know, and it's it's
[02:39:56] starting with these extraordinary
[02:39:58] actresses and brave ladies and and uh
[02:40:01] and we as men have got to be part of it,
[02:40:04] you know. We started it so we have to be
[02:40:07] part of the solution.
[02:40:09] So would you take a pay cut to kind of
[02:40:10] equal things out?
[02:40:12] No pay cut. No, no, no, no, no. That's
[02:40:14] gone too far. Um, no. There has to be
[02:40:18] parody. There just has to be.
[02:40:21] Uh, do you guys believe that upsets are
[02:40:25] good for the World Cup? It's a
[02:40:27] conversation we have around March
[02:40:29] Madness quite a bit where uh people like
[02:40:31] the upsets on the first couple of days,
[02:40:33] but when the final four arrives, they
[02:40:35] want the big boys playing.
[02:40:36] So, I don't like all the Cinderellas and
[02:40:39] all the upsets in the NCA tournament
[02:40:41] because when we get to the Sweet 16 and
[02:40:42] we get to the Elite 8, I want the blue
[02:40:45] bloods. I want the big boys playing. I
[02:40:47] want the best possible games. But I am
[02:40:49] going to find myself and I found myself
[02:40:51] yesterday and you saw Netherlands get
[02:40:53] knocked off and Germany get knocked off.
[02:40:56] I'm going to be rooting for these upsets
[02:40:58] because we got skin in the game here.
[02:41:00] And I feel like the the most
[02:41:03] advantageous way for the US to continue
[02:41:05] to advance in this tournament is if they
[02:41:08] play some lesser teams, if some of the
[02:41:09] big boys get knocked out early. know
[02:41:11] because I got someone
[02:41:15] for upset always want great matches and
[02:41:17] I think one of the chief concerns with
[02:41:19] expanded
[02:41:22] knockouts in previous would never was
[02:41:27] one of those and we alled Germany to
[02:41:31] absolutely drill them and they showed
[02:41:34] they belonged and put up a historic
[02:41:36] upset for all time. So, as someone has
[02:41:41] tickets
[02:46:47] What the hell happened?
[02:47:17] had an historic result. the the there's
[02:47:20] always a a feeling from people like
[02:47:23] myself who that FIFA is a very
[02:47:27] eurosentric organization and the
[02:47:30] European football model and everything
[02:47:31] that's like that's the class and
[02:47:33] everyone else is just like you vagabons
[02:47:35] that were allowed to get in here. So
[02:47:37] there's a part of me that watches
[02:47:38] yesterday and I'm I'm with Mike. Yeah,
[02:47:40] of course we want to see Germany versus
[02:47:41] France. That's a great game, great
[02:47:42] matchup, but seeing two European powers
[02:47:46] get knocked out nice and quick. Oh, I
[02:47:48] love it. I love this idea that we're
[02:47:50] going to a place where they don't have
[02:47:51] they're gonna have France and that's it.
[02:47:53] The other storyline that's that's I
[02:47:55] think really interesting that we I don't
[02:47:57] know if we've talked about it. The
[02:48:00] number of players who are competing in
[02:48:03] the World Cup who are born not just in
[02:48:05] France but literally in the suburbs of
[02:48:08] Paris is far and away the highest number
[02:48:11] of any concentration of players from
[02:48:13] anywhere else in the world. only you
[02:48:16] know a handful of them obviously play
[02:48:17] for Paris a lot of them play for Morocco
[02:48:19] for Algeria for Sagal that's a big deal
[02:48:22] Dan if I told you the dream team right
[02:48:24] or we went to the Olympics and I said
[02:48:27] yeah most of these players came from
[02:48:30] Hyia right not not just came from
[02:48:33] America or came from Miami they came out
[02:48:36] from this neighborhood that is an insane
[02:48:39] level of concentration the only thing I
[02:48:41] can compare it to Mike as a music guy
[02:48:43] you might appreciate this that like
[02:48:45] Mottown was like uh Artha Franklin,
[02:48:48] Stevie Wonder, and Smokeoky Robinson all
[02:48:50] grew up within like three blocks of one
[02:48:52] another and did not know each other.
[02:48:53] It's just that like
[02:48:55] it's western PA for quarterbacks.
[02:48:57] There you go. Yeah.
[02:48:59] Is the neighborhood Oakland? Is that
[02:49:01] where
[02:49:02] it it is? It is a they call it the Bano
[02:49:04] and it's like it's it is the in Paris,
[02:49:08] you know, urban housing development
[02:49:11] happens in the suburbs. They don't have
[02:49:12] it in the middle of town like we do like
[02:49:14] in New York or whatever. They put their
[02:49:16] housing projects on the suburbs outside
[02:49:18] of the city. So, yes, it is a uh
[02:49:20] underserved community, if you will.
[02:49:22] Hi.
[02:49:24] How does Ben Affleck uh wake up in the
[02:49:26] morning knowing that that's how he said
[02:49:28] Halia?
[02:49:28] Ha.
[02:49:29] How does no one correct him?
[02:49:31] As a guy who's fluent in Spanish, by the
[02:49:33] way, it's it's not like he's just some
[02:49:35] gringo.
[02:49:36] He's he speaks fluent Spanish. So, it's
[02:49:38] like he lived in Mexico as a kid, right?
[02:49:40] For a couple of years, I believe. That's
[02:49:42] why he speaks fluent Spanish. It's kind
[02:49:43] of funny. I
[02:49:45] uh Roy, see if in the next two minutes
[02:49:47] you can somehow find the shocking audio
[02:49:49] we have played before of Ben Affleck
[02:49:52] speaking perfect Spanish because he
[02:49:54] does. Uh Mike said flatly that Morocco
[02:49:57] is about as talented as the Netherlands.
[02:49:59] Chris Whittingham disagrees. He says if
[02:50:01] the Netherlands want to get back to
[02:50:02] their true identity, they should just
[02:50:03] hire Morocco's manager. So much braver
[02:50:06] with a worse team on paper.
[02:50:09] I disagree. I I I love Chris. I agree
[02:50:12] with him. He knows more about the sport.
[02:50:14] The the Dutch team I don't think is as
[02:50:16] talented as Morocco. And I think that's
[02:50:18] because people overlook the amount of
[02:50:19] talent. The best player on that pitch is
[02:50:21] Akime
[02:50:22] a Champions League legend now at this
[02:50:24] point and already accomplished in the
[02:50:27] World Cup. So I I think that they were
[02:50:29] stronger in many areas, especially in
[02:50:31] the attack.
[02:50:35] Okay.
[02:51:00] character.
[02:51:04] Howard Whiteing.
[02:51:27] Michael Jordan
[02:51:29] for the audio audience. We had
[02:51:30] subtitles.
[02:51:32] Minor league reliever named Steve
[02:51:34] Schartz.
[02:51:35] No, there's not.
[02:51:37] From 1985 to 1990.
[02:51:40] High school had to be rough for him. I
[02:51:42] need that jersey.
[03:02:09] Thank you to everyone who hung on with
[03:02:10] us on the live leard show. The postgame
[03:02:14] today a little different. We're going to
[03:02:15] do a live morally abhorrent. We're
[03:02:17] bringing on our good friend Tom Bogurt
[03:02:19] of The Athletic, who by the way is doing
[03:02:21] outstanding coverage right now. And Tom,
[03:02:23] correct me if I'm wrong. Is the AT
[03:02:25] athletic coverage for the World Cup free
[03:02:29] to all?
[03:02:31] It is indeed free to all. I don't want
[03:02:32] to hear anything about a payw wall.
[03:02:34] Every link that I've shared has been uh
[03:02:36] free to open. So, you're welcome.
[03:02:38] I love that in the middle of NBA free
[03:02:40] agency, you're out there uh tweeting
[03:02:42] about Real Salt Lake acquisitions and
[03:02:44] and and trades. So, good on you, Tom.
[03:02:47] But for this postgame show edition of
[03:02:50] Morally Abhorent, I want to preview the
[03:02:53] upcoming US knockout round fixture
[03:02:56] against Bosnia and Herskavina. Uh, a
[03:02:59] tricky opponent because they're all
[03:03:01] tricky at this point. They they play a a
[03:03:04] stingy form of soccer. And while the US
[03:03:08] is heavily favored, I don't that we're
[03:03:09] all in uncharted territory. The US is a
[03:03:12] heavily favored side in a knockout
[03:03:14] stage. You still got to play the game
[03:03:17] and this is an opponent that can
[03:03:18] frustrate you. So, let me begin with the
[03:03:21] opponent as we preview them. Not overly
[03:03:23] athletic. The US is very sneakily I
[03:03:27] guess to the rest of the world. One of
[03:03:28] the more athletic sides in this
[03:03:30] tournament. Styles make fights. They may
[03:03:33] grow frustrated with how stingy Bosnia
[03:03:35] is.
[03:03:37] Yeah. If we want to do broad strokes and
[03:03:39] generalizations, it's going this Bosnia
[03:03:42] game is going to look more like the
[03:03:43] first two group stage games in terms of
[03:03:45] style. Paraguay wanted to sit in deep,
[03:03:47] hit on the counter. Australia wanted to
[03:03:48] sit in deep, hit on the counter. That's
[03:03:50] how Bosnia is going to play. I think
[03:03:51] Australia is a little bit better
[03:03:52] defensively, but Bosnia, particularly
[03:03:55] after Australia benched their two most
[03:03:57] dangerous attackers against the US for
[03:03:58] reasons that remain unclear, I think
[03:04:00] Bosnia can hurt you a little bit more in
[03:04:02] transition. But in terms of the style,
[03:04:05] it'll be the US having more of the ball
[03:04:07] and Bosnia daring the team to break them
[03:04:09] down. And the key for the group stage,
[03:04:11] um, beyond just how great the
[03:04:13] performances were, early goals, all
[03:04:14] three games, the US scored within 11
[03:04:16] minutes. That's that makes it a whole
[03:04:18] lot easier to go against a team that
[03:04:19] wants to defend deep because they got to
[03:04:20] change up immediately. So, the two sides
[03:04:23] that the US ran into that play a similar
[03:04:26] style, Australia, who's really surprised
[03:04:29] me with their speed going forward on the
[03:04:31] counter, uh, but why has world class
[03:04:33] talent up top, they have the speed to
[03:04:36] hurt you on the counter. Is that
[03:04:38] something that Bosnia can do in this
[03:04:39] match? I feel like they're more limited
[03:04:41] there.
[03:04:42] Yeah, it depends. So, like Ed and Joeko,
[03:04:45] Mike, I think you could beat him in a
[03:04:46] race. Um, don't go anywhere near him for
[03:04:48] a fist fight. I I think that that's just
[03:04:50] generally I would say that to anybody if
[03:04:51] they if they ask but he's not exactly
[03:04:53] going to hurt you in transition. But you
[03:04:55] know who will? Esmir Barakovich who is
[03:04:58] actually born in Wisconsin a kid who
[03:05:00] came through the US youth national team
[03:05:02] systems but as his family fled to the
[03:05:04] United States during the war and this
[03:05:06] kid has always felt Bosian. There was
[03:05:08] this really really cool uh photo of him
[03:05:10] wearing an Ed and Jeeko jersey when he
[03:05:12] was a kid. He was probably like seven or
[03:05:14] eight years old. Ezner Barakerovic gets
[03:05:16] contacted by Bosnia and he immediately
[03:05:18] says yes. And Esmeir Barakovic scored
[03:05:21] the the winning penalty in the shootout
[03:05:23] to qualify for the World Cup and I think
[03:05:25] his family put up that photo of him
[03:05:27] wearing the Joko jersey when he was a
[03:05:28] child and right next to it was Joko
[03:05:31] giving him a big hug after that game. So
[03:05:33] that kid can play. He's a baller. He's
[03:05:35] somebody who wants to embarrass you
[03:05:36] every time he touches the ball. So much
[03:05:38] so that one of his previous coaches was
[03:05:40] like, "Esser, I know that you can beat
[03:05:42] somebody off the dribble almost anytime
[03:05:43] you get the ball. What I want you to do
[03:05:45] next game, the first five times you get
[03:05:46] the ball, you don't dribble, you pass
[03:05:47] sideways, you lull the defender because
[03:05:49] I know you can do it whenever you want.
[03:05:50] If you do it a few times, we'll double
[03:05:52] team you. We want you to do it when it's
[03:05:54] most useful. So, that's the kind of kid
[03:05:55] that he is. Ali Begoich, the other
[03:05:57] winger or the other wide forward that
[03:05:59] they play with, I think, is their best
[03:06:00] player. He's this young kid uh that
[03:06:02] scored in their last game, and those are
[03:06:05] the two danger players in transition.
[03:06:08] But this team's got a bunch of Giants. I
[03:06:09] know the US are good on set pieces, but
[03:06:12] they US needs to not give away needless
[03:06:14] set pieces and it's not just corners or
[03:06:16] free kicks. Bosnia hurts you on long
[03:06:18] throws. So, I think that's going to be
[03:06:20] one of the keys to the game is limiting
[03:06:21] how many setpiece opportunities that
[03:06:22] Bosnia gets, which the US did really,
[03:06:24] really well against both Paraguay and
[03:06:26] Australia.
[03:06:26] We did see in the ramp up to the World
[03:06:28] Cup, the US led in a a really bad goal
[03:06:31] to a taller player in Kaia Havs. So,
[03:06:34] Bosnia has those tall players. Is that
[03:06:36] what you're worried about? Or are we
[03:06:38] already in the territory where for the
[03:06:40] US to get through it? They just don't
[03:06:43] need to beat themselves.
[03:06:46] The latter, honestly. And and I don't
[03:06:48] want to sound like I'm overlooking or
[03:06:50] disrespecting Bosnia. This is a
[03:06:51] fantastic story. They're in the knockout
[03:06:53] rounds on merit. This wasn't luck. Uh
[03:06:55] sure, the group could have been worse,
[03:06:56] but hey man, you you play who you play
[03:06:59] and they don't have to apologize for
[03:07:00] being Qatar and drawing Canada. Um, but
[03:07:03] the US are I think the last I looked
[03:07:05] like minus one 510 favorites to advance.
[03:07:09] Like you said, Mike, uncharted
[03:07:10] territory. Um, and this is no disrespect
[03:07:13] to Bosnia, but on Monday night, the
[03:07:16] Netherlands and Morocco played around a
[03:07:17] 32 game. The Netherlands and Morocco.
[03:07:19] These are two teams that could have been
[03:07:20] semi-act. Could have been a semi-final.
[03:07:22] Definitely should have been a
[03:07:23] quarterfinal. The US has Bosnia. It's a
[03:07:26] little bit different.
[03:07:27] So, the US had a rotational side against
[03:07:30] Turkey.
[03:07:31] even down to the goalkeeper. I'm curious
[03:07:33] your thoughts there because Freeze and
[03:07:36] Turner, we've settled on Freeze being
[03:07:39] the starter, but there is a healthy
[03:07:41] debate between the two. I'm of the
[03:07:43] notion that if you fully believe in
[03:07:44] Freeze, he probably should have been out
[03:07:46] there because he hasn't been super
[03:07:48] tested in this tournament. And I'm a big
[03:07:50] believer in that position being a rhythm
[03:07:52] position. Your timing can get altered if
[03:07:54] you're not playing regularly. So, where
[03:07:57] are you on that decision? I anticipate
[03:07:59] Freeze being out there, but do you think
[03:08:01] this is potentially a mistake?
[03:08:04] 100% Freeze. I think that he should be
[03:08:06] the starting goalkeeper for this team
[03:08:07] and and Mike, I do agree with you that
[03:08:08] that he should have played against
[03:08:10] Turkey. He hadn't been really tested and
[03:08:12] it's just I don't know that's not a
[03:08:13] position that you need to rotate, rest,
[03:08:15] load manage, whatever you want to call
[03:08:16] it. Um the other side of it, maybe the
[03:08:18] human side like Matt Turner, like if he
[03:08:20] wasn't going to play in that game, he
[03:08:21] wasn't going to play at this World Cup,
[03:08:22] which you know, there's no participation
[03:08:24] minutes at this at this tournament, but
[03:08:26] you're already through. I understand the
[03:08:28] rationale though I disagree with it.
[03:08:29] It's not it's not really a hill I'd die
[03:08:30] on. But that team being fully rotated.
[03:08:34] I don't blame them for I don't want
[03:08:36] criticize them for losing. Who cares,
[03:08:37] right? And and Turkey, congratulations.
[03:08:39] You played well in the only game that
[03:08:40] didn't have any consequences, pressure
[03:08:42] stakes. Interesting how that happens
[03:08:43] with that group of players who um you
[03:08:45] know, we talked about all their
[03:08:47] individual talents and Hakon Shinogloo
[03:08:49] is coming out and just crapping on
[03:08:50] whatever team they're about to play on.
[03:08:52] So, that's always interesting to me that
[03:08:53] that they play well with no pressure and
[03:08:55] they play poorly with pressure, but I I
[03:08:57] digress on that. I didn't like what I
[03:09:00] saw from Tima, who is a player I rate
[03:09:02] highly. He's just in a bad run of form,
[03:09:04] particularly over the last six months.
[03:09:05] Um, Gio Raina did nothing. I I know this
[03:09:09] for a fact because I've seen the data.
[03:09:11] Matt Turner registered a higher sprint
[03:09:13] than Gio Raina did in the game against
[03:09:15] Turkey. The goalkeeper, the backup
[03:09:17] goalkeeper, registered a higher sprint
[03:09:19] than Gioa. And I think that he covered
[03:09:21] like two or three fewer kilometers than
[03:09:24] like one of the center backs. So I don't
[03:09:26] love to see that. And Zena Dejas didn't
[03:09:29] do much in limited minutes. Ricardo Pepe
[03:09:31] was pretty anonymous. [ __ ] Wright didn't
[03:09:32] come in off the bench. Brendan Aronson
[03:09:34] was busy and and I like what he brings
[03:09:36] to the team, but he didn't contribute
[03:09:38] really anything in the final third.
[03:09:40] Mike, if it's nil nil in the 70th
[03:09:41] minute, if it's 1-1 going to extra time
[03:09:44] and Pochettino looks at his bench and
[03:09:46] needs to make a change, honest to
[03:09:48] goodness, I don't see a good option
[03:09:49] after that turkey game. Like, if we're
[03:09:51] just talking about form like that, there
[03:09:53] aren't really good options that
[03:09:55] separated themselves as like I should be
[03:09:56] the first one in off the bench.
[03:09:57] Well, what about Bur Halter? He had a
[03:09:58] polarizing performance. There were there
[03:10:01] were
[03:10:02] I wouldn't call it polarizing. Yeah,
[03:10:03] there were there were some people out
[03:10:04] there that saying that he was the worst
[03:10:06] player on the field when you know he he
[03:10:08] had goal contributions there and he does
[03:10:10] have a specific skill set on set pieces
[03:10:12] that stick out. Do you think that
[03:10:15] there's a role for him and excluding
[03:10:17] Weston or or Christian Pisic in terms of
[03:10:20] players that featured in that game in a
[03:10:22] in a larger role, do you think any of
[03:10:23] them make an impact here against Bosnia?
[03:10:27] So Seb Balter, he's a dog man. I really
[03:10:29] really like that player. He's got
[03:10:31] quality, particularly technical quality
[03:10:33] like you're saying, Mike, he'll run
[03:10:34] around. He'll get in every challenge he
[03:10:36] possibly can. One of the little things
[03:10:38] and and I'm gonna take a shot at Gio
[03:10:40] Raina here, but like one of the thing
[03:10:41] and like they're different players, so I
[03:10:43] don't want to not everybody has to be a
[03:10:45] crazy angry dude from New Jersey like
[03:10:46] me, but the things I noticed is Gio Rea
[03:10:50] got uh it was a heavy challenge in the
[03:10:52] first half. Seb Burhalter immediately
[03:10:54] sprinted in, got in the dude's face. Um,
[03:10:56] and then helped Gio up, like screamed at
[03:10:58] the guy, yelled at the ref, turned
[03:11:00] around, picked up Gio. It was really
[03:11:01] cool. Second half, Seb Halter goes up
[03:11:04] for a header, gets undercut, and I was
[03:11:05] worried that he he landed on his
[03:11:07] shoulder. Like, he looks in real pain.
[03:11:08] Gio was the closest person to him,
[03:11:10] looked at him, looked at the referee,
[03:11:12] grabbed the ball, walked away. The
[03:11:14] second that Seberalter got up, he just
[03:11:16] passed the ball. All that is to say in a
[03:11:18] knockout round game, who I want on the
[03:11:20] field is Sebalter because I know that he
[03:11:22] ain't going to be too small for the
[03:11:23] moment and if if things get tense, he's
[03:11:26] not going to back away. He's going to
[03:11:27] ask for the ball. He's going to try to
[03:11:28] get on it. I think Seth Balter comes in
[03:11:30] off the bench no matter what. Um, but
[03:11:32] Mike like he's a deeper lying player and
[03:11:35] that could free Wesson McKini or Malik
[03:11:36] Tilman to go play further forward, but I
[03:11:39] kind of excluded him from that other
[03:11:40] group because could play as a winger,
[03:11:43] Zenaas is a winger, Pep being right
[03:11:45] forwards, uh, Gio Rain is a 10 and none
[03:11:48] of them and Arensson's a 10. None of
[03:11:50] them really did anything to uh,
[03:11:52] appreciate their stock.
[03:11:53] Do you anticipate any surprises in the
[03:11:56] starting 11 from Poach?
[03:11:58] I don't. I think it has to be the same
[03:12:00] as Paraguay and Pochettino has changed
[03:12:02] and chopped and and done a lot of
[03:12:04] surprising things during his time as as
[03:12:05] US MT manager. So maybe I shouldn't be
[03:12:08] too confident in this, but I well and
[03:12:09] truly would be shocked if it's a
[03:12:10] different 11.
[03:12:11] Well, let's talk about Bai. You
[03:12:12] mentioned them. That was a performance
[03:12:15] that was kind of picked apart. I think
[03:12:16] the most impressive performance that the
[03:12:18] US men's national team has ever had in a
[03:12:20] in a tournament such as this. But some
[03:12:23] of the criticisms or dilutions that were
[03:12:26] offered was ah it's about a Y. They're
[03:12:28] they're not very good. Well, they just
[03:12:30] beat Germany, who we have very recent
[03:12:33] data points against. Germany beat the
[03:12:35] US. That was supposed to be Germany
[03:12:38] running through a flat track against
[03:12:41] Pawawaii. What do we do with that
[03:12:42] result?
[03:12:44] Uh it makes it a little bit more
[03:12:46] difficult
[03:12:48] because I like again well and truly I
[03:12:50] think the biggest reason for the US's
[03:12:52] 4-1 win over Paraguay in the opening
[03:12:53] game was the US. Like while Paraguay
[03:12:56] weren't the strongest and and I was
[03:12:57] disappointed in kind of how they played,
[03:12:59] I'm I'm giving more credit to the US for
[03:13:01] what they did to kind of eliminate and
[03:13:03] suffocate Paraguay than Paraguay not
[03:13:05] showing up. Though I think that that
[03:13:07] wasn't the best representation of that
[03:13:08] team. A better repres representation of
[03:13:11] that team is what you saw against
[03:13:12] Germany and what I expected to see
[03:13:13] against the US. So, this is a team that
[03:13:15] took points off, I believe, Brazil,
[03:13:17] Argentina, like they were very good in
[03:13:19] South America qualifying, which is to me
[03:13:22] the hardest week toe or window-to-
[03:13:24] window qualification in the world. Um,
[03:13:27] they do get a number of spots as they've
[03:13:29] well earned, but even even to get to
[03:13:31] sixth and seventh out of the 10 there,
[03:13:33] it's a dog fight. And all of those games
[03:13:35] are hard. Bolivia is widely the uh
[03:13:38] weakest team in that region. They rarely
[03:13:40] lose at home because they play at insane
[03:13:42] altitude and like so even air quote the
[03:13:44] easy game the minnow there isn't any
[03:13:46] easy games so Paraguay is battle tested
[03:13:48] and even talking about the South
[03:13:50] American teams like Ecuador is playing
[03:13:52] against Mexico at the Aztec Mexico I
[03:13:55] think is a better team but in terms of
[03:13:57] anybody left at the World Cup who's not
[03:13:59] going to be intimidated or afraid or
[03:14:03] negative effects from the altitude or
[03:14:05] the atmosphere asca it's Ecuador so
[03:14:08] these South American teams are really
[03:14:09] really good. Urguay has been the biggest
[03:14:11] disappointment to me for that reason
[03:14:13] because I had big expectations for them
[03:14:15] and what a lot of these teams are able
[03:14:17] to do and just the lack of fight. I know
[03:14:20] that they kind of showed literal fight
[03:14:22] against Spain. I thought that that
[03:14:23] boarded more on dirty than physical, but
[03:14:25] all that is to say that the South
[03:14:26] American teams are very good and they
[03:14:28] ain't easy to beat.
[03:14:29] I'm sure you've written more words about
[03:14:30] Christian Pollysic than anyone else over
[03:14:32] these last couple of weeks. And entering
[03:14:34] that Turkey match, there was a big
[03:14:36] debate. Do you feature him? Do you not?
[03:14:38] I was of the thinking that I know this
[03:14:41] player to be fragile. I didn't want to
[03:14:43] see him in there. My heart was in my
[03:14:44] throat and then he made an immediate
[03:14:46] impact on in the attack. He looked like
[03:14:48] the best player on the pitch.
[03:14:49] Defensively, yeah, he had his moments
[03:14:51] that that that weren't exactly glorious,
[03:14:53] but in the attack he was bossing that
[03:14:56] game and he came away healthy. We expect
[03:14:58] him to start. What did you take away
[03:15:00] from Christian Pissic's performance
[03:15:02] there and how has training been this
[03:15:04] week?
[03:15:05] I thought it was very important to get
[03:15:07] him some time off the bench. It was more
[03:15:08] than I thought it was going to be. And
[03:15:09] Pochettino spoke about that after the
[03:15:11] game was like obviously the first
[03:15:13] objective was to win today, right? Like
[03:15:14] but he goes the other main objective was
[03:15:16] to get Christian in 30 or 40 minutes and
[03:15:18] they did that and within 8 minutes
[03:15:20] because that was the time to the
[03:15:21] hydration break and uh that I was kind
[03:15:24] of recalibrating and thinking about how
[03:15:26] like what I just saw. I was like all
[03:15:27] right within eight minutes it was very
[03:15:28] clear he's the best player on the pitch
[03:15:29] wearing a USA jersey. Probably the
[03:15:31] second best player on the pitch behind
[03:15:32] Art Guler at that moment. Um, and what I
[03:15:35] was most encouraged by was he didn't
[03:15:38] hesitate for a second to sprint. He
[03:15:40] didn't he got in behind. He looked like
[03:15:42] he did in the first half against
[03:15:43] Paraguay without the like last final
[03:15:45] touch. Like he looked very dangerous
[03:15:47] like you said. I I I contradict that to
[03:15:50] what Alfonso Davies looked like um for
[03:15:52] Canada against South Africa. He's been
[03:15:55] clamoring to play. He's been dying to
[03:15:56] play. He asked Jesse Marsh at the last
[03:15:58] group stage game. I know the doctors
[03:16:00] said maybe I shouldn't play, but I want
[03:16:01] to play. Let me play. and they had to
[03:16:02] say, "No, no, we got to wait." And he
[03:16:04] was supposed to be fully ready to go for
[03:16:05] that Canada game. Mike, I didn't see him
[03:16:07] open up. And the best thing about
[03:16:09] Alfonso Davies is he's probably, if not
[03:16:11] literally the fastest player at the
[03:16:13] World Cup, like should be one of them.
[03:16:14] And his explosive pace strikes fear into
[03:16:18] defenders. You have to sit off him or
[03:16:19] he's running by you. I didn't see him
[03:16:21] open up. And I saw the South African
[03:16:22] defenders noticing like, oh, like he
[03:16:25] doesn't he doesn't either have it or he
[03:16:26] doesn't trust his body. I say that all
[03:16:28] to say Christian Pulysic both had it and
[03:16:30] trusted his body. That is huge news
[03:16:32] going forward.
[03:16:32] Is it easy to say that he's going to be
[03:16:34] the most important player in this match
[03:16:36] for the US to get to where they want to
[03:16:38] get to or do you think that one of one
[03:16:40] of the understudies or uh less glamorous
[03:16:43] players h have a huge role here and say
[03:16:46] in what happens here?
[03:16:49] Yeah, of course there's the randomness
[03:16:50] that comes with soccer. And I know it's
[03:16:52] a little bit reductive to look at a 11
[03:16:54] v11 game and talking about one player,
[03:16:56] particularly in a sport that is more a
[03:16:58] weak link sport than a strong link sport
[03:16:59] like basketball is. But the US ain't
[03:17:02] going anywhere if Pulysic uh isn't good.
[03:17:04] And you know, maybe you can get by
[03:17:06] Bosnia if he's not good. You're not
[03:17:08] getting through the round of 16 if he
[03:17:09] isn't. If this is the Christian Pulik
[03:17:12] that we saw in their 45 minutes against
[03:17:13] Paraguay and genuinely the 32 minutes
[03:17:16] against uh Turkey for the most part like
[03:17:19] this team can go far and particularly if
[03:17:21] you get past Bosnia and you see I uh you
[03:17:25] know Senagle or Belgium either one I
[03:17:27] think both of those teams are strong. I
[03:17:28] think Belgium's a little better but you
[03:17:30] need to be able to have somebody that
[03:17:33] all right things broke down or shoot we
[03:17:36] need a goal we need a moment give the
[03:17:37] ball to 10 and let him cook. What do you
[03:17:39] anticipate in this match against Bosnia?
[03:17:42] How does it play out? I'm of the
[03:17:44] thinking along with Chris Feliko who
[03:17:45] joined me in the last episode that you
[03:17:47] still got to play these games. It's a
[03:17:50] different type of pressure. Yes, you're
[03:17:51] a host nation and that helps, but I
[03:17:54] think it's going to be a little tough to
[03:17:55] crack Bosnia, at least initially, and
[03:17:57] then once they get one, then you open
[03:17:59] Bosnia up a little bit and the second
[03:18:01] one should come quickly thereafter.
[03:18:04] I
[03:18:04] I totally agree. Like a early goal,
[03:18:06] early performance is very crucial. I've
[03:18:08] been joking for the last two weeks when
[03:18:10] it seemed or week and a half that it
[03:18:11] seemed like Bosnia was like the likely
[03:18:13] opponent and as that went from like 50%
[03:18:15] to 65 to like 100 I was like man we're
[03:18:18] everybody's talking about this is
[03:18:20] favorable draw all that stuff like dude
[03:18:22] this has one one draw Bosnian pens
[03:18:24] written all over it like I don't I don't
[03:18:26] know if uh if I have the stones to come
[03:18:28] on this show and actually say that
[03:18:30] without joking or being ironic but like
[03:18:32] I don't know man I could really see that
[03:18:34] outcome but for me like the way the US
[03:18:36] has been playing Um and particularly
[03:18:39] what they showed against Paraguay in
[03:18:40] Australia and and again just being very
[03:18:42] very general of like that's the style of
[03:18:44] game that we're going to see. Bosnia I
[03:18:47] don't think are good enough to play out
[03:18:50] of the US's press because the press is
[03:18:51] very good and then it becomes about when
[03:18:54] you get the ball back overloads and West
[03:18:55] McKenna and Malik Tilman have been so
[03:18:57] good at that creating 3v2s on either
[03:18:58] flank and both switching up which sides
[03:19:00] they go to. West McKini is more often on
[03:19:02] the right side with Sergio Dest and just
[03:19:05] killing whoever's in front of them. So I
[03:19:07] think the US has enough. I think the US
[03:19:09] should win this comfortably. Um I say
[03:19:12] that with inflection because there is
[03:19:15] rarely comfortable knockout round games.
[03:19:17] Yeah. Noticeable inction.
[03:19:18] You saw what happened at time of
[03:19:20] recording. There's been four knockout
[03:19:21] round games. There have been two
[03:19:23] stoppage time winners and two games that
[03:19:24] went to penalties. So that's what I'
[03:19:27] that's it's probably more likely to be
[03:19:28] that.
[03:19:29] Well, hopefully we have a few more
[03:19:30] preview episodes in store for you with
[03:19:33] Tom Bogurt here. You got to play the
[03:19:35] games, right? I'm I'm still a little
[03:19:37] nervy. I'm I'm presently sitting on a
[03:19:39] ticket that's Bosnia plus one and a
[03:19:41] half. So, I I think it I think it might
[03:19:43] be a little bit tougher, but we'll see
[03:19:46] if he can open them up. The goals can
[03:19:49] come in bunches once you you get a a
[03:19:51] stingy opponent like this that has to
[03:19:53] play outside of their usual game. Tom
[03:19:55] does an incredible job for the Gazo
[03:19:57] network with Paramount. And as we
[03:19:59] mentioned, all of his World Cup coverage
[03:20:02] in the Athletic is no longer behind the
[03:20:04] payw wall here for the remainder of this
[03:20:06] tournament. So, uh, go ahead and support
[03:20:09] Tom. He's a great friend of the show, a
[03:20:11] loyal listener, too. Tom, you're doing a
[03:20:13] great job out there. Keep it up.
[03:20:15] Hopefully, we talk to you again very
[03:20:16] soon.
[03:20:18] Thanks, Mikey. Looking forward to it.
[03:20:19] All right, we'll be back with you uh I
[03:20:21] think towards the tail end of the week
[03:20:23] here. Maybe a reaction episode, no
[03:20:24] doubt, for the US men's national team
[03:20:27] performance. I'll be joined by uh a
[03:20:29] luminary on that episode as well. So
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