# Justin Bieber - Zane Lowe and Apple Music ’Changes’ Interview

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[00:00] I'm just fascinated by the human condition is making music or not.
[00:04] You hit it on the head with the human condition in creating art.
[00:06] On one with you there, so what's great to see you, man.
[00:18] Congratulations, it's exciting.
[00:21] I mean, it's such a tasteful sounding recording.
[00:22] Sheet, it's the arrangements and I mean, talk about giving you space to perform.
[00:27] And just extend your vocal ability, which everyone already knows is just like you're the best at what you do.
[00:32] But thank you, sounds so effortless.
[00:35] I don't know, it just sounds like you're in a super comfortable place locally on this record.
[00:37] I appreciate that.
[00:37] Yeah, I'm getting into it like I was just, I mean, we can't wait.
[00:42] You want to wait to get this on camera?
[00:44] I just feel like we're recording, right?
[00:46] Are you recording?
[00:48] I'd rather just stop and I really have a big introduction.
[00:50] Yeah, cool, I like that.
[00:54] Like you said, I feel like I'm in a cool vein, but I haven't really.
[00:57] This album is super, it's just not very deep, you know?
[01:03] super it's just not very deep you know I didn't go I didn't go there like that.
[01:05] didn't go I didn't go there like that you know I mean I didn't go super deep.
[01:07] you know I mean I didn't go super deep with it thank you.
[01:11] with it thank you the last two or three years which have.
[01:13] the last two or three years which have led up to this album there's been some.
[01:16] led up to this album there's been some really significant change in your life.
[01:17] really significant change in your life and the album being called changes.
[01:19] and the album being called changes focuses on one and we're gonna get to a.
[01:22] focuses on one and we're gonna get to a place of happiness and bliss album is a.
[01:23] place of happiness and bliss album is a happy album I mean it's really you know.
[01:25] happy album I mean it's really you know it's it's it feels to me like a musical.
[01:27] it's it's it feels to me like a musical tribute to your relationship but I want.
[01:30] tribute to your relationship but I want to kind of keep the timeline off in 2017.
[01:32] to kind of keep the timeline off in 2017 and I I always feel like there's a point.
[01:34] and I I always feel like there's a point with you Justin way you give so much.
[01:35] with you Justin way you give so much then you've you've got to a point you've.
[01:38] then you've you've got to a point you've got to stop but it's like the train is.
[01:40] got to stop but it's like the train is running you know what I mean so it has.
[01:42] running you know what I mean so it has to stop in a dramatic fashion why did.
[01:44] to stop in a dramatic fashion why did you stop the tour in 2017 and and what.
[01:47] was the reason for that I was really.
[01:49] tired.
[01:50] tired emotionally physically and I was sick.
[01:53] emotionally physically and I was sick and I didn't realize I was sick so I had.
[01:55] and I didn't realize I was sick so I had like epstein-barr which is like it's.
[01:57] like epstein-barr which is like it's called mono and then I have Lyme disease.
[02:01] called mono and then I have Lyme disease so it was that it was it was just you.
[02:04] so it was that it was it was just you know the exhaustion of just being on tour and then it was like it was just everything compounded I think to be honest
[02:10] how did you feel when the tour came to an end
[02:13] I mean it didn't really come to an end I was supposed to do a bunch of stadiums but you know I once the American lie or the European lag or wherever I came from last was done I was like this is it for me
[02:25] I mean I pushed through you know the path the last month or two and I you know I couldn't believe I pushed through that
[02:32] so when they were like you know we got to still do stadiums I was like this is not gonna be good I'm not gonna be able to make it through that and it's just no it won't work and I'm someone who pushes pushes pushes until it's like you know so it's like the last straw
[02:48] so I just couldn't do it
[02:49] you knew instinctively that you something was going on and with your physical
[02:53] yeah I knew there was something not right because I was doing everything right on tour I mean I wasn't you know I was keeping to myself I was keeping on as much of a structured schedules I could I was doing the ice baths every
[03:05] Could I was doing the ice baths every day I was eating salmon twice a day like.
[03:08] I was eating salmon twice a day like I was doing the right thing to try to take care of my body and it was just like nothing was just felt depleted and felt all the time.
[03:10] I was doing the right thing to try to take care of my body and it was just like nothing was just felt depleted and felt all the time.
[03:12] And it was just like nothing was just felt depleted and felt all the time.
[03:15] Felt all the time so I was like you know and then that that took an emotional toll on me so I was like you know I just didn't know what the hell was going on.
[03:19] And then that that took an emotional toll on me so I was like you know I just didn't know what the hell was going on.
[03:21] Toll on me so I was like you know I just didn't know what the hell was going on.
[03:25] I just didn't know what the hell was going on.
[03:26] How have you adapted to that experience knowing now that you have Lyme disease and how was it adjusted your lifestyle and how you move forward and what changes have you noticed?
[03:28] How have you adapted to that experience knowing now that you have Lyme disease and how was it adjusted your lifestyle and how you move forward and what changes have you noticed?
[03:30] Knowing now that you have Lyme disease and how was it adjusted your lifestyle and how you move forward and what changes have you noticed?
[03:31] And how was it adjusted your lifestyle and how you move forward and what changes have you noticed?
[03:32] And how you move forward and what changes have you noticed?
[03:34] I think I'm just making sure that I am doing the right treatments for doing the right IVs and all that sort of stuff taking the necessary precautions necessary to not get any worse I guess.
[03:38] Just making sure that I am doing the right treatments for doing the right IVs and all that sort of stuff taking the necessary precautions necessary to not get any worse I guess.
[03:40] Right treatments for doing the right IVs and all that sort of stuff taking the necessary precautions necessary to not get any worse I guess.
[03:42] And all that sort of stuff taking the necessary precautions necessary to not get any worse I guess.
[03:46] Necessary precautions necessary to not get any worse I guess.
[03:47] Get any worse I guess.
[03:50] Listen to Hayley when she says she feels that I'm rundown and it's good to have her as you know checks and balances she can let me know what I'm like all right.
[03:52] That I'm rundown and it's good to have her as you know checks and balances she can let me know what I'm like all right.
[03:55] Her as you know checks and balances she can let me know what I'm like all right.
[03:57] She can let me know what I'm like all right.
[03:59] You're looking depleted right now and it's clear to anyone who hears this album and also to anyone who takes an interest in your life as a fan that the
[04:01] It's clear to anyone who hears this album and also to anyone who takes an interest in your life as a fan that the
[04:04] And also to anyone who takes an interest in your life as a fan that the
[04:07] interest in your life as a fan that the two of you have found you know a really
[04:09] two of you have found you know a really important bond and and that this
[04:12] important bond and and that this marriage is has been a hugely important
[04:14] marriage is has been a hugely important development in your life it's been a
[04:16] development in your life it's been a really big reason why I'm coming back
[04:18] really big reason why I'm coming back and the end I'm successful at this I
[04:20] and the end I'm successful at this I think she is definitely the reason
[04:23] think she is definitely the reason there'd be no story without her there
[04:26] there'd be no story without her there B no she just ties it all together I
[04:28] B no she just ties it all together I mean she giving me substance to talk
[04:31] mean she giving me substance to talk about she's the person that I'm learning
[04:34] about she's the person that I'm learning to you know love unconditionally start a
[04:39] to you know love unconditionally start a family with so you know regardless if I
[04:42] family with so you know regardless if I sell another record I mean I have a lot
[04:44] sell another record I mean I have a lot of peace just knowing that I have the
[04:48] of peace just knowing that I have the rest of my life to build a relationship
[04:49] rest of my life to build a relationship with a solid foundation trust and
[04:54] with a solid foundation trust and patience and all the things that go into
[04:57] patience and all the things that go into building a healthy relationship when I
[04:59] building a healthy relationship when I listen to the sort of what's being said
[05:01] listen to the sort of what's being said from either of you it's been documented
[05:03] from either of you it's been documented and that in the series but also what
[05:05] and that in the series but also what you've said it sounds like both of you
[05:07] you've said it sounds like both of you to some degree knew it was right but you
[05:10] to some degree knew it was right but you were both had to go into in your own way
[05:13] were both had to go into in your own way confirm or qualify that that was the
[05:16] confirm or qualify that that was the case right how did you know and there's
[05:18] case right how did you know and there's a song on the album which is which
[05:19] a song on the album which is which really refers to that which is that
[05:21] really refers to that which is that that's what real love is you know yeah
[05:22] that's what real love is you know yeah how did you kind of know I'd let her
[05:24] how did you kind of know I'd let her know prior to the tour when we were
[05:26] know prior to the tour when we were hanging a lot I said listen I'm still
[05:28] hanging a lot I said listen I'm still really hurt and still trying to figure
[05:31] really hurt and still trying to figure out my way and I'm not ready to make a
[05:34] out my way and I'm not ready to make a commitment to you in a way that you know
[05:36] commitment to you in a way that you know I just don't want to say something and
[05:38] I just don't want to say something and do the opposite because I just don't I
[05:40] do the opposite because I just don't I was at the point where I'd you know I'd
[05:43] was at the point where I'd you know I'd done that in the past and I just was
[05:45] done that in the past and I just was like honest with her it was like you
[05:48] like honest with her it was like you know I I'm not in a place to you know be
[05:50] know I I'm not in a place to you know be faithful and all this sort of stuff that
[05:52] faithful and all this sort of stuff that I wanted to be you know but I just
[05:54] I wanted to be you know but I just wasn't there yet and what was hurting
[05:56] wasn't there yet and what was hurting you at the time you said you were still
[05:57] you at the time you said you were still hurt
[05:57] hurt I was just hurt from my previous
[06:01] I was just hurt from my previous relationship I think I still was dealing
[06:03] relationship I think I still was dealing with a lot of unforgiveness and all that
[06:05] with a lot of unforgiveness and all that sort of stuff so to be honest I don't
[06:07] sort of stuff so to be honest I don't think I even knew what I was really struggling with at the time.
[06:10] I don't think I knew I was dealing with unforgiveness.
[06:11] I was just an in-place where I knew I didn't want to like tell her one thing and like you know I felt like she respected me at the time and I had a lot of respect for her um and so I just didn't want to like say something and then she'd see me off doing some other thing and so but either way she loved me and seeing me with other people hurt her and so with that being said she went out and did things that hurt me and so it was just this hurt.
[06:39] I've heard her she hurt me and then before tour we just really stopped talking.
[06:44] I was really upset and rather than you know before that in my previous relationship I went off and just went crazy and went wild just was you know being reckless.
[06:56] This time I took the time to like really build myself and focus on you know me and try to make the right decisions and all that sort of stuff and
[07:09] decisions and all that sort of stuff and yeah I got better and so she would reach.
[07:12] yeah I got better and so she would reach out to people that were like that we.
[07:14] out to people that were like that we knew checking on you and check-in and.
[07:16] knew checking on you and check-in and she would get like these the eat here.
[07:18] she would get like these the eat here right you'd hear like how he's doing so.
[07:21] right you'd hear like how he's doing so well and she would be so pissed off.
[07:23] well and she would be so pissed off because she's like he's not doing well.
[07:26] because she's like he's not doing well without me like just you know normal.
[07:29] without me like just you know normal like right like normal facts right and.
[07:39] yeah yeah and so wish you would hear this right and you'd hear this and I.
[07:42] this right and you'd hear this and I and it would just be you just be like why.
[07:45] it would just be you just be like why he's doing well like but in a way you're.
[07:47] he's doing well like but in a way you're kind of trying to get bit up because you.
[07:51] kind of trying to get bit up because you recognize this something that is.
[07:53] recognize this something that is unresolved here than the weird way I'm.
[07:54] unresolved here than the weird way I'm right right right I just didn't know.
[07:56] right right right I just didn't know what the heck was going on and so I.
[07:58] what the heck was going on and so I really took a deep dive in my faith to.
[08:00] really took a deep dive in my faith to be honest I just went deep into like I.
[08:03] be honest I just went deep into like I believed in Jesus but I never really.
[08:06] believed in Jesus but I never really like you know when it says following.
[08:11] like you know when it says following Jesus is actually turning away from sin.
[08:13] Jesus is actually turning away from sin and so there's no what it talks about in the Bible.
[08:16] and so there's no what it talks about in the Bible it's like there's no obedience.
[08:18] the Bible it's like there's no obedience there's no faith without obedience so.
[08:20] there's no faith without obedience so it's like I had had faith about like I believe Jesus died on the cross for me.
[08:22] it's like I had had faith about like I believe Jesus died on the cross for me but I never really implemented it into my life.
[08:24] believe Jesus died on the cross for me but I never really implemented it into my life.
[08:26] but I never really implemented it into my life I never like was like I'm gonna be obedient so I was like I wasn't sleeping around.
[08:28] my life I never like was like I'm gonna be obedient so I was like I wasn't sleeping around.
[08:32] be obedient so I was like I wasn't sleeping around I wasn't doing a lot of stuff I just was kind of by myself.
[08:33] sleeping around I wasn't doing a lot of stuff I just was kind of by myself.
[08:37] stuff I just was kind of by myself how did you make who helped you come to that because I'm sure there were a lot of and.
[08:38] did you make who helped you come to that because I'm sure there were a lot of and I don't mean this in a judgmental way.
[08:40] because I'm sure there were a lot of and I don't mean this in a judgmental way it's just humanity anyone's on their own journey.
[08:42] I don't mean this in a judgmental way it's just humanity anyone's on their own journey there are a lot of people who are practicing one belief or another.
[08:43] it's just humanity anyone's on their own journey there are a lot of people who are practicing one belief or another but as you say it's different when you when.
[08:45] journey there are a lot of people who are practicing one belief or another but as you say it's different when you when you say it as opposed to actually acting.
[08:48] are practicing one belief or another but as you say it's different when you when you say it as opposed to actually acting with in its its its guidelines.
[08:50] as you say it's different when you when you say it as opposed to actually acting with in its its its guidelines which are there to give you ultimate focus right.
[08:52] you say it as opposed to actually acting with in its its its guidelines which are there to give you ultimate focus right on what's important.
[08:53] with in its its its guidelines which are there to give you ultimate focus right on what's important so when did you decide to actually move within the guidelines.
[08:55] which are there to give you ultimate focus right on what's important so when did you decide to actually move within the guidelines and how did you find yourself away from.
[08:58] there to give you ultimate focus right on what's important so when did you decide to actually move within the guidelines and how did you find yourself away from yeah.
[09:00] on what's important so when did you decide to actually move within the guidelines and how did you find yourself away from yeah I believe in Jesus but I'm gonna drink or do drugs or sleep around or what all these other distractions.
[09:01] decide to actually move within the guidelines and how did you find yourself away from yeah I believe in Jesus but I'm gonna drink or do drugs or sleep around or what all these other distractions how did you get out of that world.
[09:02] guidelines and how did you find yourself away from yeah I believe in Jesus but I'm gonna drink or do drugs or sleep around or what all these other distractions how did you get out of that world what was the turning point for you.
[09:04] away from yeah I believe in Jesus but I'm gonna drink or do drugs or sleep around or what all these other distractions how did you get out of that world what was the turning point for you I think it was my perception of who.
[09:06] I'm gonna drink or do drugs or sleep around or what all these other distractions how did you get out of that world what was the turning point for you I think it was my perception of who.
[09:06] around or what all these other distractions how did you get out of that world what was the turning point for you I think it was my perception of who.
[09:08] distractions how did you get out of that world what was the turning point for you I think it was my perception of who.
[09:10] world what was the turning point for you I think it was my perception of who.
[09:12] I think it was my perception of who Jesus really was you know uhm I'd had really bad examples of Christians in my life who would say one thing and do another so they were there my direct example of who Jesus was.
[09:26] that's why you didn't take it seriously I didn't take it as seriously because I didn't have a good example oh yeah and so I think the more I I really just really looked at the character of who Jesus really was.
[09:38] did you grow up in a Christian house I grew up um in a in a Christian household yeah but my mom was um I mean she was really hurt growing up.
[09:46] I mean she had so many things going on in her life so she was navigating her faith journey for me it was just confusing.
[09:56] could she say one thing and then like she would say well you're forgiven but then I'd do something bad or whatever was supposedly bad but then I she make me feel ashamed for it so it's like well if Jesus forgives me then why am I feeling why are you making me feel bad for doing something like obviously there's like a form of like we
[10:14] obviously there's like a form of like we should we got to make sure we keep our kids accountable and punish our kids so that they learn from their mistakes but
[10:20] like if there's this God named Jesus who died for our sins so that we don't have to live in shame then why it was just things like that that would make me really question like who is this Jesus guy and I didn't really take a deep look into who he was yeah it's tough I mean I get it like this hey man our parents do the best they can and I've been through my own you know situations where in front of that things that have affected my life choices but
[10:48] at some point you got to come to a decision you got to take responsibility for your own perception of those situations right otherwise you run around just blaming everybody and that's an entitled situation it entitles you to behave however you want you know what I mean we say you know I guess that's what I was getting at when I was talking about those those tough years in a way you were punishing yourself because you didn't have the answers right
[11:10] I think so that's a good way to put it yeah I think that I was just yeah living in this shame living in all this
[11:15] living in this shame living in all this sort of stuff of my past and I wasn't able to move on.
[11:19] but the more I looked at so now I'm not doing no way I look at my relationship with God and with Jesus is I'm not trying to earn God's love by doing good things.
[11:30] God has already loved me for who I am before I did anything to earn and deserve it.
[11:35] it's a free gift by accepting Jesus and just giving your life to him and what he did is the gift.
[11:40] the forgiveness is the thing that we look at him you know I'm gonna worship You God because you gave me something so good.
[11:46] and so you lived that life of like I don't want to cheat on my wife not because it's the right thing to do but because I don't want to hurt her.
[11:56] see the difference there that is love yeah it's putting the well-being of someone that you care about ahead of your own fallibilities in your own exact previous baby exactly.
[12:08] and what's you know what's out there exactly yeah totally yeah okay can I ask you a tough question before we focus on the future and how bright things look do.
[12:18] the future and how bright things look do you think that if you hadn't redefined.
[12:20] you think that if you hadn't redefined what Jesus was and reclaimed it in to something that was worthy of practice.
[12:24] something that was worthy of practice for you which then led you on a path of reconciliation with your wife do you think the person that you either you of then was on a path of self-destruction.
[12:34] do you feel that you were honest oh you were self-destructing.
[12:37] oh for sure yeah I would have first shared 100% yeah why never say it would have been it would have been no hobo no it was bad it would have been yeah I don't know if I'd be alive for sure it was dark really dark so I'm very very grateful to have influences in my life that have played a huge part in me seeing their relationship with Jesus and their relationship with their wives and their relationship with their kids and saying that's what I want and striving after that so that's I was thinking too it's not obviously you know.
[13:19] it's not obviously you know when we want to be successful in certain things.
[13:21] when we want to be successful in certain things there's things we have to work hard at.
[13:22] but like striving for God's love or gods its approval or people's approval.
[13:25] it's like gods told me he said I mean I don't hear from God audibly but um I feel like gods you know when he sees us.
[13:31] he he's not this God that people a lot of people think that it's like judgmental and he's God that uh that accepts us for who we are and loves us through our our pain and through our heart dirt.
[13:33] Jesus wasn't this religious elite guy that you know came to but he was he was in the dirt and he found me in my dirt and pulled me out and that's why my story.
[13:37] that's why I'm not afraid I don't want to I want to talk about without forcing that into people's.
[13:41] I never want to be someone's trying to persuade anyone to believe in what I believe.
[13:43] I think God persuades people but
[14:21] believe I think God persuades people but I want to definitely tell my story so.
[14:23] I want to definitely tell my story so that if if that resonates to anybody.
[14:25] that if if that resonates to anybody that they can uh hopefully learn from it.
[14:29] that they can uh hopefully learn from it.
[14:32] he's 2020 going forward into a new decade and I think about from 2008 nine.
[14:34] decade and I think about from 2008 nine when it first started for you right.
[14:36] when it first started for you right through I mean you work non-stop and.
[14:37] through I mean you work non-stop and that was a decade in full visibility of.
[14:40] that was a decade in full visibility of the world yeah yeah I definitely have.
[14:42] the world yeah yeah I definitely have grown up in front of the head of the.
[14:44] grown up in front of the head of the world for sure but there's nothing I.
[14:48] world for sure but there's nothing I mean just even thinking now I mean what.
[14:50] mean just even thinking now I mean what we're doing right now is we are building.
[14:54] we're doing right now is we are building or building a relationship well you and.
[14:56] or building a relationship well you and I are doing right now is building trust.
[14:58] I are doing right now is building trust we're building huh you know this isn't.
[15:00] we're building huh you know this isn't just I mean people will see this and.
[15:02] just I mean people will see this and look at is that as an interview but what.
[15:04] look at is that as an interview but what we're doing is we're just two men.
[15:05] we're doing is we're just two men sitting down talking about life and the.
[15:08] sitting down talking about life and the human condition so when you first.
[15:10] human condition so when you first started and you said that I was like.
[15:11] started and you said that I was like okay this is gonna be this is gonna be.
[15:14] okay this is gonna be this is gonna be good well for me you know music comes.
[15:16] good well for me you know music comes from somewhere right and we always have.
[15:19] from somewhere right and we always have to remember that maybe it comes from.
[15:21] to remember that maybe it comes from this youthful naivety and this desire to escape something and then you get out there in front of the world and then it comes from a place of wanting more of it yeah and a desire to continue to Phil this kind of bucket right cause it right tastes good all this stuff in there's this energy this attention is fame right yeah it validates you exactly I mean just think about how young I was and so impressionable and you have everybody telling me how good how awesome I am at all times you know I'm like it was it was just insane and so it's like how do you yes I taking care of putting a kid in the room with that with the picnic table full of nothing but sweets right and just saying I'll be back in two days exactly exactly and I'm glad you said that because it's like I just want people to understand like and get that perspective of like my of my life because I think there's a lot of people you know that just have this now see comments and stuff and I really try not to read them but I find myself in a wormhole sometimes show us human betcha
[16:23] wormhole sometimes show us human betcha but um but just seeing like you know.
[16:27] but um but just seeing like you know don't be talking about my issues or my problems and stuff in there like oh man.
[16:29] don't be talking about my issues or my problems and stuff in there like oh man.
[16:30] cry me a river and your rolls-royce you know what I mean it's like I want people.
[16:33] cry me a river and your rolls-royce you know what I mean it's like I want people.
[16:34] that kind of understand the you know the psychology behind why I could have I potentially could have you know problems in my life so yeah thank you for being here and helping me tell that story.
[16:37] that kind of understand the you know the psychology behind why I could have I potentially could have you know problems in my life so yeah thank you for being here and helping me tell that story.
[16:40] psychology behind why I could have I potentially could have you know problems in my life so yeah thank you for being here and helping me tell that story.
[16:44] potentially could have you know problems in my life so yeah thank you for being here and helping me tell that story.
[16:48] in my life so yeah thank you for being here and helping me tell that story.
[16:49] here and helping me tell that story I mean I like to go there it's my thing yeah me too yeah I appreciate that.
[16:53] mean I like to go there it's my thing yeah me too yeah I appreciate that.
[16:55] yeah me too yeah I appreciate that I think it's important not just for I mean for me it's about trying to get information that helps break down the stigma that artists should be grateful for everything that they have we should be great for everything we have just when you wake up every morning with our eyes open for obvious reasons exactly.
[16:57] think it's important not just for I mean for me it's about trying to get information that helps break down the stigma that artists should be grateful for everything that they have we should be great for everything we have just when you wake up every morning with our eyes open for obvious reasons exactly.
[16:59] for me it's about trying to get information that helps break down the stigma that artists should be grateful for everything that they have we should be great for everything we have just when you wake up every morning with our eyes open for obvious reasons exactly.
[17:01] information that helps break down the stigma that artists should be grateful for everything that they have we should be great for everything we have just when you wake up every morning with our eyes open for obvious reasons exactly.
[17:04] stigma that artists should be grateful for everything that they have we should be great for everything we have just when you wake up every morning with our eyes open for obvious reasons exactly.
[17:07] for everything that they have we should be great for everything we have just when you wake up every morning with our eyes open for obvious reasons exactly.
[17:08] be great for everything we have just when you wake up every morning with our eyes open for obvious reasons exactly.
[17:09] when you wake up every morning with our eyes open for obvious reasons exactly.
[17:11] eyes open for obvious reasons exactly but I just go through their own struggles and um and I think that we need to acknowledge and accept that thank you for saying that.
[17:13] but I just go through their own struggles and um and I think that we need to acknowledge and accept that thank you for saying that.
[17:15] struggles and um and I think that we need to acknowledge and accept that thank you for saying that.
[17:17] need to acknowledge and accept that thank you for saying that.
[17:18] thank you for saying that thank you when did the fire to make music come back because to pick the timeline up again it's sort of your off.
[17:20] thank you when did the fire to make music come back because to pick the timeline up again it's sort of your off.
[17:23] music come back because to pick the timeline up again it's sort of your off.
[17:24] timeline up again it's sort of your off tour and you realize that you still
[17:27] tour and you realize that you still haven't dealt with certain things right
[17:29] haven't dealt with certain things right yes 2017 and did you get head again were
[17:32] yes 2017 and did you get head again were you slammed again by these kind of
[17:33] you slammed again by these kind of unresolved emotions and feelings did you
[17:35] unresolved emotions and feelings did you have questions when you came off tour
[17:37] have questions when you came off tour that you still don't have answers for I
[17:38] that you still don't have answers for I got off tour in yeah there was
[17:40] got off tour in yeah there was still there was just there was this
[17:41] still there was just there was this feeling of unresolved things in my life
[17:46] feeling of unresolved things in my life I took the time to resolve some things
[17:49] I took the time to resolve some things in my life
[17:51] in my life some some relationships get some healing
[17:54] some some relationships get some healing did you go to therapy work through some
[17:56] did you go to therapy work through some healing yeah I did I think it's
[17:58] healing yeah I did I think it's important that we express our feelings
[18:01] important that we express our feelings and find that place I think a lot of
[18:04] and find that place I think a lot of people I think at one time I felt like
[18:06] people I think at one time I felt like who is this person to give me advice you
[18:09] who is this person to give me advice you know like what does he know about and I
[18:11] know like what does he know about and I just I've moved five just grown to
[18:13] just I've moved five just grown to mature past that and just know that like
[18:15] mature past that and just know that like it's just it's helpful when did you
[18:18] it's just it's helpful when did you realize that it was time for you to
[18:19] realize that it was time for you to reconnect with Hailey and that you had
[18:21] reconnect with Hailey and that you had gotten to a place when you knew that you
[18:23] gotten to a place when you knew that you could potentially actually pursue
[18:25] could potentially actually pursue something substantial I just felt there was a lot of resolution in my life.
[18:31] I'd seen her at an event and I'd uh I'd seen her with a baby and something just clicked and it was like wow she's the one.
[18:43] I'd kind of decluttered some of my past and I was able to see really clearly and I just seen her across the room.
[18:51] she was holding a baby and I just seen the nurturing look in her eyes toward this baby um and I was like I want the mother of my chosen to look at a baby the way that she was.
[19:08] and she just the way she was carrying in I just seen something so special and I just was like I want that and I knew that she couldn't offer that to me.
[19:16] yeah it was a great story thank you.
[19:20] how quick was it after that it would seem pretty quick was very quick couple months later I pop the
[19:27] Quick couple months later I pop the question.
[19:29] And then it was a couple months later all right we got married.
[19:30] You nervous before you pop the question?
[19:31] I was.
[19:34] I mean that's a big commitment and my parents were never married so I never had that uh I never got to see what that really looked like.
[19:40] So I'm like can I even do this?
[19:41] Don't even know what it looks like to do this.
[19:43] But I just felt like God was saying I'll show you.
[19:45] You know I'll show you how to do it.
[19:47] And just you know just trust.
[19:49] So I just trusted him and just let him you know lead the way and committed to her.
[19:54] And I didn't realize your parents were married.
[19:58] Yeah my parents weren't married.
[20:00] No that's a huge step to take given that the situation from which she came.
[20:01] There's no kind of my oh god yes.
[20:07] No no nothing.
[20:11] My dad is now married and he's doing an awesome job and I'm really proud of him.
[20:14] You had a place of honesty now with your parents.
[20:17] Can you sit down with your dad when the time when you need to when you need answers perhaps you're not sure why you're thinking certain things or your behavior isn't in.
[20:19] Can you sit down with your dad when the time when you need to when you need answers perhaps you're not sure why you're thinking certain things or your behavior isn't in.
[20:20] Can you sit down with your dad when the time when you need to when you need answers perhaps you're not sure why you're thinking certain things or your behavior isn't in.
[20:21] Can you sit down with your dad when the time when you need to when you need answers perhaps you're not sure why you're thinking certain things or your behavior isn't in.
[20:24] Can you sit down with your dad when the time when you need to when you need answers perhaps you're not sure why you're thinking certain things or your behavior isn't in.
[20:25] Can you sit down with your dad when the time when you need to when you need answers perhaps you're not sure why you're thinking certain things or your behavior isn't in.
[20:28] certain things or your behavior isn't in line with your actual desires what you
[20:31] line with your actual desires what you want to be can you talk to your parents
[20:33] want to be can you talk to your parents can you try to untangle that to be
[20:35] can you try to untangle that to be honest I think there's levels of you
[20:37] honest I think there's levels of you know what I think our relationship is
[20:40] know what I think our relationship is ready to handle at this moment where
[20:42] ready to handle at this moment where they're at in their journey with you
[20:45] they're at in their journey with you know their faith and where they're at
[20:47] know their faith and where they're at with in their life and where I'm at I
[20:49] with in their life and where I'm at I just think you know just I want them to
[20:52] just think you know just I want them to play a role in my life and that's pretty
[20:54] play a role in my life and that's pretty simple just be my mom and dad and I
[20:57] simple just be my mom and dad and I think it's just taking me I mean I'm
[20:58] think it's just taking me I mean I'm really in the process of doing that
[21:00] really in the process of doing that right now so it's really kind of still
[21:01] right now so it's really kind of still you know I'm still learning that how to
[21:04] you know I'm still learning that how to do all that and still learning how to
[21:05] do all that and still learning how to trust people oh yeah for sure I mean um
[21:08] trust people oh yeah for sure I mean um I think boundaries to be honest is like
[21:10] I think boundaries to be honest is like key you know understanding like there's
[21:13] key you know understanding like there's people that play certain roles in my
[21:15] people that play certain roles in my life and kind of just uh let them play
[21:18] life and kind of just uh let them play that role and not give them access to
[21:21] that role and not give them access to certain parts of my life and that's
[21:24] certain parts of my life and that's something you have to do not only as a
[21:25] something you have to do not only as a for your own emotional well-being but I
[21:29] for your own emotional well-being but I think as a business leader as well you
[21:32] think as a business leader as well you know in something I'm learning I've made
[21:34] know in something I'm learning I've made some mistakes over the past year to just
[21:38] some mistakes over the past year to just scooters over there probably laughs and
[21:40] scooters over there probably laughs and just um I do try I have a problem with
[21:43] just um I do try I have a problem with trust but then there's areas of like I I
[21:45] trust but then there's areas of like I I do trust people a little too much so
[21:48] do trust people a little too much so trust me sometimes I'm just working
[21:50] trust me sometimes I'm just working through just kind of trying to figure
[21:52] through just kind of trying to figure out all that sort of stuff
[21:53] out all that sort of stuff people who take advantage do you feel
[21:55] people who take advantage do you feel like people are taking advantage of you
[21:56] like people are taking advantage of you in the past oh yeah for sure
[21:57] in the past oh yeah for sure yeah people take advantage of course but
[21:59] yeah people take advantage of course but she's kind of trying to figure out how
[22:02] she's kind of trying to figure out how to she's how to navigate being married
[22:05] to she's how to navigate being married I'm frigging married down and I got the
[22:07] I'm frigging married down and I got the best wife in the world she supports me
[22:09] best wife in the world she supports me through so much I'm really honored to be
[22:12] through so much I'm really honored to be her husband and I just really have made
[22:13] her husband and I just really have made a whole album about it yeah and there's
[22:16] a whole album about it yeah and there's more to come I mean I want to continue
[22:18] more to come I mean I want to continue to write about what it looks like to be
[22:20] to write about what it looks like to be it's so you know this is an album I
[22:23] it's so you know this is an album I wrote in the first year of our marriage
[22:25] wrote in the first year of our marriage you know so it's like it's so fresh and
[22:28] you know so it's like it's so fresh and there's you know there's no there's so
[22:31] there's you know there's no there's so much more to learn about commitment and
[22:34] much more to learn about commitment and you know building trust and foundation
[22:36] you know building trust and foundation I'm just I'm looking forward to
[22:37] I'm just I'm looking forward to continuing to build and make music
[22:40] continuing to build and make music that's gonna reflect that this was great
[22:43] that's gonna reflect that this was great about changes it's a honeymoon record
[22:44] about changes it's a honeymoon record yeah yeah it's a kind of human record
[22:46] yeah yeah it's a kind of human record yeah exactly you know it would be sort
[22:48] yeah exactly you know it would be sort of dissing genuine to start diving
[22:51] of dissing genuine to start diving deeper into that situation when you're
[22:53] deeper into that situation when you're just learning about it at the beginning
[22:54] just learning about it at the beginning things are ages yeah so I think I think
[22:57] things are ages yeah so I think I think I'm like I'm excited about this but I'm
[22:59] I'm like I'm excited about this but I'm just like there's so much more there's
[23:01] just like there's so much more there's so much deeper levels I'm excited to go
[23:04] so much deeper levels I'm excited to go to which is fun you know it gives me
[23:07] to which is fun you know it gives me something to look forward to I think in
[23:09] something to look forward to I think in the past I was so caught up in all of
[23:12] the past I was so caught up in all of like the bad things in my life that I
[23:15] like the bad things in my life that I just I wasn't able to really take take a
[23:18] just I wasn't able to really take take a second and really appreciate all the all
[23:21] second and really appreciate all the all the little things but yeah I'm excited
[23:24] the little things but yeah I'm excited it's gonna be it's gonna be good I asked
[23:26] it's gonna be it's gonna be good I asked a question about when you sort of felt
[23:27] a question about when you sort of felt the fire to want to make music again
[23:29] the fire to want to make music again because it's something I know you're
[23:31] because it's something I know you're 100% committed to so when did you didn't
[23:33] 100% committed to so when did you didn't know you wanted to get in the studio I'm
[23:35] know you wanted to get in the studio I'm feeling spired I think again I was like
[23:37] feeling spired I think again I was like dealing with a lot of fear a lot of like
[23:40] dealing with a lot of fear a lot of like um just was afraid of like at that point
[23:44] um just was afraid of like at that point just even the process what am I gonna
[23:46] just even the process what am I gonna talk about again you know is it gonna be
[23:50] talk about again you know is it gonna be received you know I'm starting to
[23:52] received you know I'm starting to compare with other artists and I think
[23:56] compare with other artists and I think when I went on stage with ariana grande
[23:58] when I went on stage with ariana grande you know I seen the reaction of how
[24:00] you know I seen the reaction of how people reacted when I went on the stage
[24:02] people reacted when I went on the stage it was like okay um he gave me a kind of
[24:06] it was like okay um he gave me a kind of like a boost of confidence and reminded
[24:09] like a boost of confidence and reminded me because it'd been so long since I've
[24:11] me because it'd been so long since I've been on the stage just kind of reminded
[24:12] been on the stage just kind of reminded me what I was this is what I this is
[24:15] me what I was this is what I this is what I do this is what I'm good at and I
[24:18] what I do this is what I'm good at and I don't either
[24:18] don't either away from it I was like yeah I was
[24:21] away from it I was like yeah I was running away you know I think a lot of
[24:23] running away you know I think a lot of us need to take that you know when
[24:26] us need to take that you know when something's hard it's almost like we
[24:28] something's hard it's almost like we need to run towards the the pain and run
[24:31] need to run towards the the pain and run towards the hurt rather than run away
[24:34] towards the hurt rather than run away from it and I think you get kind of
[24:36] from it and I think you get kind of healing when it comes to that it was a
[24:38] healing when it comes to that it was a great moment when you came face-to-face
[24:41] great moment when you came face-to-face or not really cuz that you were wearing
[24:42] or not really cuz that you were wearing a mask Andrea but you came face to face
[24:45] a mask Andrea but you came face to face with Billy Eilish in her own way albeit
[24:49] with Billy Eilish in her own way albeit in a different era dealing with this
[24:52] in a different era dealing with this very very public explosion of success
[24:55] very very public explosion of success and of attention to and like by the way
[24:58] and of attention to and like by the way like even more now like he was so quick
[25:01] like even more now like he was so quick yeah she's she's crazy she's a superstar
[25:05] yeah she's she's crazy she's a superstar superstar right so yeah you say you're
[25:07] superstar right so yeah you say you're there and you see her and you see the
[25:08] there and you see her and you see the way she's reacting to you and I wonder
[25:10] way she's reacting to you and I wonder what was going through your minds I've
[25:11] what was going through your minds I've never had a chance to ask you that cuz I
[25:13] never had a chance to ask you that cuz I know what was going through their mind
[25:14] know what was going through their mind because I never chance to ask her there
[25:15] because I never chance to ask her there it was pretty clear in the video that's
[25:17] it was pretty clear in the video that's going through and why she turned even
[25:18] going through and why she turned even what was going through your mind when
[25:20] what was going through your mind when you wreck it when you when you saw that
[25:21] you wreck it when you when you saw that kind of reaction and and also now the
[25:23] kind of reaction and and also now the knowledge that you were just coming out
[25:25] knowledge that you were just coming out of that space yourself I wanted to
[25:28] of that space yourself I wanted to protect the moment you know I don't know
[25:32] protect the moment you know I don't know how many opportunities I'm gonna get you
[25:34] how many opportunities I'm gonna get you know we never know how many
[25:35] know we never know how many opportunities we're gonna get with
[25:37] opportunities we're gonna get with anybody I mean just I'm tearing up
[25:40] anybody I mean just I'm tearing up thinking about it just with the COBE
[25:42] thinking about it just with the COBE situation you know um just never know um
[25:47] situation you know um just never know um and so I just wanted to be a good
[25:49] and so I just wanted to be a good example um you know and yeah um did you
[25:59] example um you know and yeah um did you feel protective of her yeah I definitely
[26:02] feel protective of her yeah I definitely feel protective of her um it was hard
[26:05] feel protective of her um it was hard for me being that young and being in the
[26:08] for me being that young and being in the industry you not knowing where to turn
[26:10] industry you not knowing where to turn and everyone you know telling me they
[26:13] and everyone you know telling me they love me and you know just turn their
[26:16] love me and you know just turn their back on you in a second um so yeah it's
[26:19] back on you in a second um so yeah it's it's hard because I want her to know
[26:22] it's hard because I want her to know that you know she can count on me but at
[26:25] that you know she can count on me but at the end of the day I don't want to never
[26:27] the end of the day I don't want to never gonna force myself to be in relationship
[26:29] gonna force myself to be in relationship with her it has to be natural
[26:31] with her it has to be natural right so I just kind of you know let her
[26:33] right so I just kind of you know let her do her thing and if she ever needs me
[26:35] do her thing and if she ever needs me I'm gonna be here for her but yeah just
[26:39] I'm gonna be here for her but yeah just protecting those moments because people
[26:43] protecting those moments because people take for granted uh encounters and yeah
[26:54] take for granted uh encounters and yeah so um yeah I just I just want to protect
[27:00] so um yeah I just I just want to protect her you know I don't want her to to lose
[27:05] her you know I don't want her to to lose it I don't want her to you know go
[27:08] it I don't want her to you know go through anything I went through I don't
[27:09] through anything I went through I don't wish that upon anybody so um yeah if she
[27:13] wish that upon anybody so um yeah if she ever needs me um I'm just a call away do
[27:17] ever needs me um I'm just a call away do you realize how important your story is
[27:19] you realize how important your story is and the fact that you're sitting here
[27:20] and the fact that you're sitting here today telling it man
[27:21] today telling it man I mean I I have to say thank you because
[27:24] I mean I I have to say thank you because someone who's really every time I have a
[27:27] someone who's really every time I have a conversation with someone who's been
[27:28] conversation with someone who's been through this unique type of experience
[27:30] through this unique type of experience and just I'm searching for some kind of
[27:32] and just I'm searching for some kind of truth that can help right
[27:36] truth that can help right in fact you're sitting here today and
[27:37] in fact you're sitting here today and being so honest and open it's really
[27:38] being so honest and open it's really important and I just want to share that
[27:40] important and I just want to share that with you man it's like this is you're
[27:42] with you man it's like this is you're right this isn't an interview this is an
[27:44] right this isn't an interview this is an opportunity for you to help others yeah
[27:48] opportunity for you to help others yeah and that's got to give you purpose even
[27:50] and that's got to give you purpose even beyond the making of music or technology
[27:53] beyond the making of music or technology yeah I'm not thinking about anything but
[27:55] yeah I'm not thinking about anything but being present in this interview with you
[27:57] being present in this interview with you you know let's say that's we got right
[27:59] you know let's say that's we got right now so we go in we got a story to tell
[28:01] now so we go in we got a story to tell we got either we're gonna be here and
[28:04] we got either we're gonna be here and we're gonna be authentic and honest and
[28:05] we're gonna be authentic and honest and real or we're gonna bullsh and I just
[28:09] real or we're gonna bullsh and I just I've done that for years and I'm just I
[28:12] I've done that for years and I'm just I was to be an exhausting I mean it really
[28:15] was to be an exhausting I mean it really is and so I I just come I just I commend
[28:19] is and so I I just come I just I commend you for going there and asking the tough
[28:23] you for going there and asking the tough questions and the things that people
[28:25] questions and the things that people don't want to talk about and they don't
[28:26] don't want to talk about and they don't want to go there because it's just it's
[28:28] want to go there because it's just it's revealing and it's it's hard but uh you
[28:32] revealing and it's it's hard but uh you know this is these are the conversations
[28:34] know this is these are the conversations that are gonna bring change and bring
[28:36] that are gonna bring change and bring you know a level of consciousness to
[28:38] you know a level of consciousness to people that can say I need to really
[28:41] people that can say I need to really take a look at myself where am i I and
[28:44] take a look at myself where am i I and you know if Justin's able to be
[28:46] you know if Justin's able to be vulnerable where with where where he's
[28:48] vulnerable where with where where he's at then you know I can do the same thing
[28:51] at then you know I can do the same thing you know people have putted me on a
[28:53] you know people have putted me on a pedestal
[28:55] pedestal I didn't ask for that you know I
[28:57] I didn't ask for that you know I obviously I love making music but you
[29:02] obviously I love making music but you know there's a lot of people that love
[29:03] know there's a lot of people that love making music and they're not you know
[29:04] making music and they're not you know they're not in the position that I am so
[29:07] they're not in the position that I am so you know a lot of that is not you know I
[29:09] you know a lot of that is not you know I can't say that I put myself in this
[29:12] can't say that I put myself in this position
[29:12] position I'm just trying to steward that wisely
[29:15] I'm just trying to steward that wisely Stewart my relationships wisely I want
[29:18] Stewart my relationships wisely I want people to take a look at my story and
[29:20] people to take a look at my story and and just hopefully the you know my the
[29:24] and just hopefully the you know my the my words can can make a difference you
[29:27] my words can can make a difference you chose to make an album that is flows in
[29:32] chose to make an album that is flows in a really fluid tasteful way and gives
[29:35] a really fluid tasteful way and gives you space to really sing and really
[29:38] you space to really sing and really hyper focus as we said before on the
[29:40] hyper focus as we said before on the honeymoon phase of your marriage and
[29:42] honeymoon phase of your marriage and you're working with poohbear again yeah
[29:44] you're working with poohbear again yeah which is great because you trust him
[29:46] which is great because you trust him yeah and you got great chemistry and you
[29:48] yeah and you got great chemistry and you open the doors some really keen
[29:50] open the doors some really keen collaborators as well how did you pick
[29:52] collaborators as well how did you pick him how did you decide who's gonna be on
[29:54] him how did you decide who's gonna be on and be off for Tolkien we told quavo
[29:55] and be off for Tolkien we told quavo Travis kailani yeah that's crazy I mean
[29:58] Travis kailani yeah that's crazy I mean it's like I look at people who I you
[30:01] it's like I look at people who I you know I admire and I I'd love to hear
[30:03] know I admire and I I'd love to hear more of their stories and get to know
[30:05] more of their stories and get to know them a little bit more but uh I think
[30:07] them a little bit more but uh I think they're authentic we were where they're
[30:09] they're authentic we were where they're at in their careers and in their their
[30:11] at in their careers and in their their life and you're gonna be a fan yeah I
[30:13] life and you're gonna be a fan yeah I love them I love their music Ewan came
[30:15] love them I love their music Ewan came on Deary jumped out of me because I was
[30:16] on Deary jumped out of me because I was talking about her tongue he's so good
[30:18] talking about her tongue he's so good and I love you a vocal telling it when
[30:20] and I love you a vocal telling it when you sing and you're in the sweet spot
[30:21] you sing and you're in the sweet spot with Pooh Bear I think there's very few
[30:23] with Pooh Bear I think there's very few if any one who can get to that place and
[30:25] if any one who can get to that place and and just talk about that experience of
[30:28] and just talk about that experience of working with kailani on that track and
[30:30] working with kailani on that track and why you chose her I just like you said I
[30:32] why you chose her I just like you said I think it's a major the major thing is
[30:34] think it's a major the major thing is tone mom I just I love her tone and I
[30:38] tone mom I just I love her tone and I just think she's honest
[30:39] just think she's honest and and I think that just goes such a
[30:42] and and I think that just goes such a long way being authentic it she's a
[30:44] long way being authentic it she's a straight talker from where I haven't
[30:47] straight talker from where I haven't spent much time with her but I was out
[30:49] spent much time with her but I was out to dinner with her the other night and I
[30:50] to dinner with her the other night and I just felt like he actually seemed like
[30:52] just felt like he actually seemed like she was pretty authentic she talked to
[30:54] she was pretty authentic she talked to me about like wow that what you talked
[30:57] me about like wow that what you talked about in the
[30:58] about in the he was like inspiring because you know
[31:01] he was like inspiring because you know it's it's it's scary to kind of show
[31:02] it's it's it's scary to kind of show that stuff you know show the hard stuff
[31:05] that stuff you know show the hard stuff who in heaven's name is clever and how
[31:09] who in heaven's name is clever and how come for a second me and now something
[31:11] come for a second me and now something that was post yeah so it's actually I
[31:14] that was post yeah so it's actually I think he signed a post but it's this guy
[31:17] think he signed a post but it's this guy who I found on the internet just seeing
[31:20] who I found on the internet just seeing him on Instagram and I was like this
[31:21] him on Instagram and I was like this guy's tone is crazy yeah and he just has
[31:24] guy's tone is crazy yeah and he just has this vibe that's just insane and I just
[31:26] this vibe that's just insane and I just love it
[31:27] love it sort of unchecked and a little rugged on
[31:28] sort of unchecked and a little rugged on the roads raw and it's friggin just like
[31:31] the roads raw and it's friggin just like you can just feel the pain through the
[31:34] you can just feel the pain through the music you can feel just emotion raw
[31:37] music you can feel just emotion raw emotion and I just think it's it's
[31:39] emotion and I just think it's it's powerful have you got that project in
[31:41] powerful have you got that project in you at some point in the future we're
[31:44] you at some point in the future we're dialing into some really interesting and
[31:45] dialing into some really interesting and really powerful human stuff here and
[31:48] really powerful human stuff here and this album is a great document to the
[31:50] this album is a great document to the beginning of a new era for you but do
[31:52] beginning of a new era for you but do you feel like every day you get closer
[31:54] you feel like every day you get closer to making that album that's picks up
[31:56] to making that album that's picks up with purpose left off but goes even
[31:58] with purpose left off but goes even further uh yeah I mean I was just in the
[32:01] further uh yeah I mean I was just in the back there and I literally just came up
[32:04] back there and I literally just came up with the title to my album but I don't
[32:06] with the title to my album but I don't know if I'm gonna share right now that's
[32:07] know if I'm gonna share right now that's okay
[32:07] okay it just felt like yeah there's there are
[32:10] it just felt like yeah there's there are so many deeper levels of you know I
[32:12] so many deeper levels of you know I don't just want it I wouldn't want to
[32:14] don't just want it I wouldn't want to talk about you know I think love is you
[32:17] talk about you know I think love is you know the foundation of what humanity's
[32:18] know the foundation of what humanity's built off of but but and with that being
[32:21] built off of but but and with that being said I just think there's so many you
[32:23] said I just think there's so many you know issues in society and things that
[32:25] know issues in society and things that I'm eventually gonna want to just speak
[32:28] I'm eventually gonna want to just speak about and write about and in justices
[32:30] about and write about and in justices and people being marginalized and
[32:33] and people being marginalized and overlooked and things of that nature I
[32:35] overlooked and things of that nature I think that's definitely something I'm
[32:37] think that's definitely something I'm gonna definitely be going into but I
[32:39] gonna definitely be going into but I think it's just it's all timing and I
[32:41] think it's just it's all timing and I think what comes priority first is that
[32:44] think what comes priority first is that lady over there and building my
[32:45] lady over there and building my relationship with her because I think
[32:47] relationship with her because I think she teaches me about all that sort of
[32:49] she teaches me about all that sort of stuff like what do you what is she
[32:50] stuff like what do you what is she really taught what are some of the key
[32:52] really taught what are some of the key kind of growths that you've experienced
[32:55] kind of growths that you've experienced by being in a relationship like I think
[32:56] by being in a relationship like I think she just teaches me just to I mean
[33:00] she just teaches me just to I mean there's so much I mean patience is a big
[33:02] there's so much I mean patience is a big thing at the end of the day it's like I
[33:05] thing at the end of the day it's like I chose to be with her forever
[33:06] chose to be with her forever so understanding that
[33:08] so understanding that yeah I don't know just patience is a big
[33:10] yeah I don't know just patience is a big big thing as a patient yeah and we both
[33:21] big thing as a patient yeah and we both have I think everybody is a tendency
[33:24] have I think everybody is a tendency like you said a human condition
[33:25] like you said a human condition everybody's can be a patient and the big
[33:28] everybody's can be a patient and the big stick and I gotta ask it because there's
[33:29] stick and I gotta ask it because there's you know there's this baby sounds on the
[33:31] you know there's this baby sounds on the record and there it's like really it's
[33:33] record and there it's like really it's it's cool hearing those and I wonder
[33:35] it's cool hearing those and I wonder kind of where you've you stand or where
[33:37] kind of where you've you stand or where how you feel about starting a family and
[33:39] how you feel about starting a family and in particular coming from a family that
[33:41] in particular coming from a family that was unorthodox in an environment that
[33:42] was unorthodox in an environment that wasn't normal or whatever normal family
[33:46] wasn't normal or whatever normal family is how you feel about starting your own
[33:47] is how you feel about starting your own I want to start my own family in due
[33:50] I want to start my own family in due time I just I want to enjoy being
[33:53] time I just I want to enjoy being married for a little bit go on tour be
[33:56] married for a little bit go on tour be married enjoy traveling with just us
[33:59] married enjoy traveling with just us build more of our relationship and I
[34:03] build more of our relationship and I think yeah that is definitely the next
[34:06] think yeah that is definitely the next step for sure what kind of father do you
[34:08] step for sure what kind of father do you sort of want a baby think like what's
[34:10] sort of want a baby think like what's important to you you know what I mean
[34:11] important to you you know what I mean like oh well great question what do you
[34:15] like oh well great question what do you not want to be that's a good question
[34:17] not want to be that's a good question too
[34:18] too I you know I just want to be led by like
[34:22] I you know I just want to be led by like I said before I'm I'm a Jesus follower
[34:24] I said before I'm I'm a Jesus follower and I just want to be led by when you
[34:28] and I just want to be led by when you accept Jesus he says it now you walk
[34:31] accept Jesus he says it now you walk with the Holy Spirit so I think I just
[34:33] with the Holy Spirit so I think I just want to be led by by the Holy Spirit so
[34:35] want to be led by by the Holy Spirit so you got a tour I'm going to tour yeah
[34:40] you got a tour I'm going to tour yeah how do you feel about that after the way
[34:43] how do you feel about that after the way he felt at the end of the last tour and
[34:45] he felt at the end of the last tour and are you excited I guess you wouldn't be
[34:48] are you excited I guess you wouldn't be gone tour if you weren't hahaha yeah I'm
[34:50] gone tour if you weren't hahaha yeah I'm definitely excited I'm excited to to
[34:52] definitely excited I'm excited to to travel again we've established so much
[34:55] travel again we've established so much and figured out what's not important and
[34:57] and figured out what's not important and what is important so it's like money's
[35:00] what is important so it's like money's gonna come and it's great and I'm gonna
[35:02] gonna come and it's great and I'm gonna be able to provide a really amazing life
[35:04] be able to provide a really amazing life for my family which is incredible um but
[35:07] for my family which is incredible um but just understanding the priorities I mean
[35:10] just understanding the priorities I mean like here we are you know we got a lot
[35:12] like here we are you know we got a lot of people who aren't making as much
[35:15] of people who aren't making as much money as I am on tour you know dancers
[35:17] money as I am on tour you know dancers band all these sort of things
[35:19] band all these sort of things I think creating an atmosphere where
[35:21] I think creating an atmosphere where everybody feels I was telling scooter
[35:23] everybody feels I was telling scooter this the other day where everybody feels
[35:25] this the other day where everybody feels heard valued respected and that their
[35:28] heard valued respected and that their goals are you know obviously he's
[35:31] goals are you know obviously he's matching with my goals you know and and
[35:34] matching with my goals you know and and so that we can work on creating an
[35:35] so that we can work on creating an atmosphere that's gonna be conducive for
[35:37] atmosphere that's gonna be conducive for them you know building their families
[35:39] them you know building their families and building their life and you know for
[35:42] and building their life and you know for so long it's like there's when you have
[35:44] so long it's like there's when you have these other things that you feel are
[35:45] these other things that you feel are gonna fulfill you whether it's money or
[35:47] gonna fulfill you whether it's money or success you you're so focused on the
[35:51] success you you're so focused on the outcome that you're you're just not
[35:53] outcome that you're you're just not working on how do we get there is this
[35:55] working on how do we get there is this gonna be sustainable you know the tour
[35:58] gonna be sustainable you know the tour became so dysfunctional because you got
[36:01] became so dysfunctional because you got I mean I was talking about this with
[36:02] I mean I was talking about this with Nick the other day you got all these
[36:05] Nick the other day you got all these people that everyone starts off good on
[36:07] people that everyone starts off good on tour everyone starts off a family but
[36:09] tour everyone starts off a family but then by the end of the tour everybody's
[36:11] then by the end of the tour everybody's got their cliques everybody's because
[36:13] got their cliques everybody's because we're not creating you know we're not
[36:15] we're not creating you know we're not reminding everybody the focus in the
[36:18] reminding everybody the focus in the mission and the goal so I think taking
[36:20] mission and the goal so I think taking that time that I was you know immature
[36:22] that time that I was you know immature in the past and not ready to do that
[36:24] in the past and not ready to do that because I just things were more
[36:25] because I just things were more important taking that time to you know
[36:28] important taking that time to you know have those weekly meetings and be leader
[36:30] have those weekly meetings and be leader needs to be leader exactly to be a
[36:33] needs to be leader exactly to be a leader that's it do you nail it on the
[36:36] leader that's it do you nail it on the head there just lead which I you know I
[36:39] head there just lead which I you know I never like you said before like I said
[36:41] never like you said before like I said before it's like my family life was
[36:44] before it's like my family life was dysfunctional when I was younger so like
[36:46] dysfunctional when I was younger so like it's just been hard to understand what
[36:49] it's just been hard to understand what that really looks like but you you've
[36:51] that really looks like but you you've hit on the head being a leader you and
[36:53] hit on the head being a leader you and your fans have had the most incredible
[36:55] your fans have had the most incredible journey and ride and and the level of
[36:57] journey and ride and and the level of passion and and the level of loyalty
[37:00] passion and and the level of loyalty that they show you over the years has
[37:03] that they show you over the years has been incredible to witness from the
[37:06] been incredible to witness from the outside now that you have a chance to be
[37:09] outside now that you have a chance to be a leader not just to your band but also
[37:11] a leader not just to your band but also to your fans in a weird way right
[37:13] to your fans in a weird way right because I know that there have been
[37:15] because I know that there have been times when that's probably scared you
[37:17] times when that's probably scared you even or as caught you off-guard that
[37:19] even or as caught you off-guard that level of attention it's hard to process
[37:21] level of attention it's hard to process and I wonder sort of how you feel as
[37:24] and I wonder sort of how you feel as you're growing and maturing about having
[37:26] you're growing and maturing about having fans and what that concept feels like
[37:29] fans and what that concept feels like yeah the concept
[37:33] [Music]
[37:34] [Music] it's just so different than you know
[37:37] it's just so different than you know when I was younger I mean I just it's
[37:40] when I was younger I mean I just it's confusing when you're young because that
[37:42] confusing when you're young because that person loves me what also you come
[37:44] person loves me what also you come you're coming from a place where you're
[37:47] you're coming from a place where you're again getting back to your family which
[37:50] again getting back to your family which is where it all begins we start our
[37:53] is where it all begins we start our journey somewhere with some people right
[37:56] journey somewhere with some people right and we don't ask for that they doing the
[37:59] and we don't ask for that they doing the best they can and you have to process
[38:02] best they can and you have to process that information and move forward and
[38:04] that information and move forward and when you're faced with this adoration
[38:07] when you're faced with this adoration and this love but you're not quite sure
[38:11] and this love but you're not quite sure what love is
[38:12] what love is mm-hmm there you go that's big
[38:16] mm-hmm there you go that's big what we're touching on is big right now
[38:18] what we're touching on is big right now this is big it's big this is big this is
[38:23] this is big it's big this is big this is big I don't even think people know how
[38:25] big I don't even think people know how big this is yeah what is what is love I
[38:28] big this is yeah what is what is love I mean love is patient love is kind love
[38:31] mean love is patient love is kind love doesn't Envy love doesn't boast love in
[38:34] doesn't Envy love doesn't boast love in the self seeking love as an arrogant
[38:36] the self seeking love as an arrogant love is you know what Haley and I are
[38:39] love is you know what Haley and I are doing every day is waking up in the
[38:41] doing every day is waking up in the morning and making the decision to you
[38:44] morning and making the decision to you know we have all these everyone has
[38:47] know we have all these everyone has selfish desires you know everybody has
[38:50] selfish desires you know everybody has bad thoughts and in but just pushing
[38:53] bad thoughts and in but just pushing those aside and saying I'm knocking that
[38:55] those aside and saying I'm knocking that mmm I'm not gonna indulge in that
[38:57] mmm I'm not gonna indulge in that because I have something you know you
[38:59] because I have something you know you give me something that I I want more
[39:02] give me something that I I want more than that those things and like you say
[39:04] than that those things and like you say acknowledging that they existed
[39:05] acknowledging that they existed acknowledging them I started the song
[39:07] acknowledging them I started the song was it yeah I wasn't right I wasn't
[39:09] was it yeah I wasn't right I wasn't doing that before I don't think I wasn't
[39:11] doing that before I don't think I wasn't acknowledging them I just was like
[39:14] acknowledging them I just was like pretending that they weren't there using
[39:16] pretending that they weren't there using them and then and then you know comes
[39:18] them and then and then you know comes with that self-righteousness I'm doing
[39:20] with that self-righteousness I'm doing look at me how good I'm doing because
[39:22] look at me how good I'm doing because I'm not doing those things
[39:23] I'm not doing those things self-righteousness and are you
[39:25] self-righteousness and are you pretending the epitome of what I hate
[39:27] pretending the epitome of what I hate but it's something that I started doing
[39:29] but it's something that I started doing because I'm like well I'm saying no to
[39:32] because I'm like well I'm saying no to all this other garbage and I'm doing the
[39:34] all this other garbage and I'm doing the right thing so look I'm a good guy yeah
[39:37] right thing so look I'm a good guy yeah and then people are like what you know
[39:39] and then people are like what you know like who are you to say you know I mean
[39:42] like who are you to say you know I mean it's like we're not really good at the
[39:44] it's like we're not really good at the end of the day
[39:45] end of the day at the core I don't believe I believe
[39:48] at the core I don't believe I believe the humans are good and then people
[39:49] the humans are good and then people might you know twist this and make me
[39:52] might you know twist this and make me seem like I'm saying humanity's not good
[39:55] seem like I'm saying humanity's not good I don't know waitress I just feel like
[39:57] I don't know waitress I just feel like at the core I fight everyday temptation
[40:00] at the core I fight everyday temptation and things that you know are instinctive
[40:03] and things that you know are instinctive to do whether it's you know whatever it
[40:06] to do whether it's you know whatever it is why be greedy all these things that
[40:10] is why be greedy all these things that just naturally come those naturally come
[40:12] just naturally come those naturally come I got a fight to not be that maybe
[40:14] I got a fight to not be that maybe that's my unique thing maybe that's me
[40:16] that's my unique thing maybe that's me personally being that way and I I just
[40:19] personally being that way and I I just accept that and I just know that that's
[40:22] accept that and I just know that that's not who I am because humanity's you know
[40:27] not who I am because humanity's you know it's it's come to a place of being
[40:29] it's it's come to a place of being really you know it's it's broken I mean
[40:32] really you know it's it's broken I mean just just look around I mean the pain
[40:35] just just look around I mean the pain that's so much pain and yeah I was going
[41:01] that's so much pain and yeah I was going with that but um you know I I am hey
[41:05] with that but um you know I I am hey baby
[41:06] baby thank you so much appreciate you so I
[41:13] thank you so much appreciate you so I mean the pain in this world it's just so
[41:16] mean the pain in this world it's just so it's like it's obvious and people are
[41:21] it's like it's obvious and people are looking for hope and they're looking for
[41:24] looking for hope and they're looking for a way out and they're looking for an
[41:27] a way out and they're looking for an escape and they're looking for they're
[41:30] escape and they're looking for they're looking for truth and they're looking
[41:32] looking for truth and they're looking for yeah and I'm just I've gotten the
[41:36] for yeah and I'm just I've gotten the opportunity with my journey to just see
[41:40] opportunity with my journey to just see a God whose accepts me loves me
[41:43] a God whose accepts me loves me they call him the savior and I believe
[41:46] they call him the savior and I believe that to be true
[41:47] that to be true mmm Jesus saved me Justin at the start
[41:53] mmm Jesus saved me Justin at the start of this new decades and this might be a
[41:55] of this new decades and this might be a little hard to kind of put into context
[41:56] little hard to kind of put into context by on broadly speaking
[41:59] by on broadly speaking terms of just core values and core goals
[42:02] terms of just core values and core goals we would you ideally like to be at the
[42:05] we would you ideally like to be at the end of this decade what would you like
[42:08] end of this decade what would you like to what path would you like to have put
[42:10] to what path would you like to have put your life on a fell like the last
[42:12] your life on a fell like the last decades so much of it felt out of
[42:14] decades so much of it felt out of control
[42:15] control mm-hm and I feel like you've worked hard
[42:17] mm-hm and I feel like you've worked hard to get some of that control back yeah I
[42:19] to get some of that control back yeah I just feel like there's so much to look
[42:22] just feel like there's so much to look forward to I'm really excited excited to
[42:24] forward to I'm really excited excited to get mom likes emotional thinking about
[42:26] get mom likes emotional thinking about it I'm just excited to get it so you
[42:28] it I'm just excited to get it so you have babies with you I'm excited to just
[42:34] have babies with you I'm excited to just enjoy just celebrate you know all the
[42:40] enjoy just celebrate you know all the amazing things that we've been given
[42:42] amazing things that we've been given because we are blessed babe you know we
[42:45] because we are blessed babe you know we talk about it all the time we just have
[42:47] talk about it all the time we just have a thing where we just say we're below
[42:48] a thing where we just say we're below we're so blessed we are man there's so
[42:52] we're so blessed we are man there's so much pain in the world and you don't
[42:54] much pain in the world and you don't understand why and there's so much
[42:56] understand why and there's so much things that are so unexplainable but
[42:58] things that are so unexplainable but what is the reality we are blessed you
[43:01] what is the reality we are blessed you know I mean it's hard that dichotomy of
[43:04] know I mean it's hard that dichotomy of like how can we mourn the loss of
[43:08] like how can we mourn the loss of someone you know and accept that we are
[43:10] someone you know and accept that we are still blessed I think that's a really
[43:14] still blessed I think that's a really hard thing to discover but I think when
[43:18] hard thing to discover but I think when you get there it's a beautiful place to
[43:20] you get there it's a beautiful place to be a beautiful place to be
[43:31] thanks man thank you