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Fumbled Justice Podcast | Ep5 - The Perjury
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True crime enthusiasts and advocates for criminal justice reform.
TL;DR
Eric Neposki and host Paul Delpo analyze three key witnesses whose 2009 trial testimony contradicted their 1995 statements, alleging perjury in the murder case against Neposki. The episode highlights how the defense was barred from using the original memos, raising questions about the integrity of the conviction.
Key Takeaways
- Susan Kogar's 1998 call to police was triggered by hang-up calls, not new evidence, and she later admitted she couldn't recall her exact conversation with Eric Neposki.
- Eric Neposki consistently said 'I didn't do it' when asked about the murder, contradicting the prosecution's repeated claim that he said 'maybe I did and maybe I didn't.'
- Three witnesses changed their testimony 15 years after the murder, but the 1995 police memos that could have exposed these inconsistencies were never shown to the jury.
- Prosecutor Matt Murphy relied on Kogar's testimony as 'new evidence' to reopen the case, yet her memory was demonstrably faulty and contradicted by contemporaneous notes.
- The defense was denied the opportunity to use original 1995 documents to impeach witnesses, raising serious questions about the fairness of the trial process.
- Perjury is defined as lying under oath, and the episode argues that key witnesses gave testimony in 2009 that directly conflicted with their earlier statements from 1995.
In This Video
- 00:00Opening Disclaimer and Introduction
AI avatar disclaimer and host Paul Delpo introduces the episode's focus on perjury.
- 00:53The Case Reopened After 15 Years
William Mclofflin's murder case reopened due to new testimony from three witnesses.
- 02:04Three Key Witnesses Introduced
Susan Kogar, David Vanir, and Detective Vaoth gave conflicting testimony in 2009.
- 03:09Eric Neposki Joins the Discussion
Co-host Eric Neposki joins from prison to discuss the perjury allegations.
- 04:10Susan Kogar's Testimony Examined
Eric explains his relationship with Kogar and her 1998 call to police about hang-ups.
- 08:11Correcting the 'Maybe I Did' Narrative
Eric clarifies he said 'I didn't do it,' not 'maybe I did, maybe I didn't.'
Questions & Answers
What is perjury?
Perjury is the crime of telling a lie in a court of law after promising to tell the truth, as defined by Webster's dictionary.
Who is Susan Kogar?
Susan Kogar was a neighbor of Eric Neposki who testified about a conversation where she claimed he said 'maybe I did and maybe I didn't' regarding the murder.
Why did Susan call the police in 1998?
Susan called the police in 1998 because she was getting hangup phone calls and thought it might be Eric, but it turned out to be someone from her work.
What did Eric say about the murder?
Eric consistently said 'I didn't do it' when asked about the murder, contradicting Susan's claim that he said 'maybe I did and maybe I didn't.'
How did the defense correct Susan's testimony?
The defense used a document from her 1998 interview showing she initially said Eric denied involvement, correcting her trial testimony.
What is the Fumbled Justice podcast about?
The podcast examines wrongful convictions by comparing original witness statements from 1995 with later testimony that changed over time.
Key Terms
- Perjury — The crime of lying in court after swearing to tell the truth.
- AI avatar technology — A digital representation of a person synchronized to their actual voice, used here to show Eric's participation.