# Dr Joe Dispenza: Rewire Your Brain, Heal Your Mind, Fear & Anxiety | FO475 Raj Shamani

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[00:00] What happens if you practice gratitude?
[00:02] What happens if you practice gratitude 10 minutes a day?
[00:04] A person who understands that I'm going to go for 10 or 15 minutes just feeling gratitude or thinking about all the things I'm grateful for.
[00:09] I promise you, a person who does that after a period of time, as a side effect, the opportunities coming to them.
[00:17] I know my reality.
[00:19] I'm not the version who I want to be.
[00:21] How do they think and create of that future which they can't even see?
[00:23] Well, you have one of two choices, to disbelieve or believe.
[00:27] If you choose to be a chronic disbeliever, then you'll find reasons in your life to reaffirm that disbelief.
[00:33] I was just looking at a testimonial the other day.
[00:35] The guy had a 9 and 1/2-in tumor on his kidneys.
[00:38] The chemo wasn't working.
[00:40] The radiation wasn't working.
[00:42] None of the diets worked.
[00:43] One of two options, die or show up for myself.
[00:45] And their belief in themselves was earned.
[00:49] It was the overcoming, showing up even when they doubted.
[00:53] The person they have the scans, they have the blood tests, tumors are gone, everything's gone.
[00:57] That's the power that lives in every human being.
[00:59] When you
[01:00] lives in every human being.
[01:00] When you start seeing possibility like that.
[01:05] How is that possible?
[01:05] Okay.
[01:06] How is that possible?
[01:06] Okay.
[01:08] When you're in the meditative state, if
[01:10] you can open the door between your conscious mind and your subconscious
[01:12] conscious mind and your subconscious mind, and you're able to provide the
[01:15] mind, and you're able to provide the autonomic nervous system with the right
[01:17] autonomic nervous system with the right information, it has an innate
[01:19] information, it has an innate intelligence to restore, and repair,
[01:21] intelligence to restore, and repair, regenerate chemicals and hormones that
[01:24] regenerate chemicals and hormones that begin to restore and repair the body.
[01:28] begin to restore and repair the body.
[01:30] Sort of concept which is alpha alpha,
[01:32] beta, gamma, theta and delta.
[01:34] Okay.
[01:34] Explain me When you're conscious
[01:35] and most of your attention is pretty much on your outer environment, you're
[01:37] in beta.
[01:37] Then when you're more of your attention kind of goes on your inner
[01:38] environment, that's alpha.
[01:40] Theta is when your body is asleep, resting, and you're
[01:42] conscious and awake.
[01:44] Theta is that hypnotic state.
[01:46] Delta is when your body is in a deep resting state of sleep, and
[01:48] it's restoring and repairing.
[01:51] Gamma is that kind of elevated state of
[01:53] superconsciousness.
[01:54] Our data says that at the end of 7 days,
[01:56] a person's voice tone is different,
[01:59] Our data says that at the end of 7 days,
[02:00] a person's voice tone is different, their face is different, their brain is different, their heart is different.
[02:04] Everything changes when a person changes.
[02:08] What are like top two or three things that people do wrong, which is why they're not able to change at all?
[02:13] So, the person who's operating from past is usually trying to predict the future based on the past, and they're working pretty much off a part of the brain called the default mode network.
[02:23] The challenge with that is it consumes an enormous amount of energy in the brain.
[02:27] And if you're not predicting the future, you're in the present moment.
[02:31] And when you're in the present moment, you're way more creative, the brain is more integrated, and that's when you get creative ideas.
[02:39] Do you think somebody who doesn't feel that deeply, does that affect their ability to create a better future?
[02:50] Just one quick thing before we start.
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[03:20] Now, coming to today's episode.
[03:22] What if you could change your entire personality?
[03:26] What if your anxiety, your trauma, the habits you can't break, the version of you that you really hate, all of that could be changed?
[03:34] What if you could unleash the power of your mind, of your thoughts, and achieve the absolute goals of your life, which are the biggest, and be able to achieve all your dreams as well?
[03:47] What if all of that was possible?
[03:49] Our today's guest is going to tell you exactly how.
[03:53] Our today's guest is Dr. Joe Dispenza, the man who proved that your thoughts can heal your body.
[03:58] He has healed so many diseases.
[04:03] He has healed so many diseases.
[04:03] He has helped so many people walk again.
[04:05] He's helped so many people walk again.
[04:08] He's trained all around the world to do exactly this and unleash the power of your brain.
[04:11] He researches neuroscience.
[04:14] He works with a lot of institutions and try to understand what can your mind do and what are the possibilities.
[04:16] So, by the end of this episode, you will also understand why you've been stuck and how exactly you can turn your life around.
[04:19] Let me start with something that I've never shared this pub- publicly ever.
[04:21] And So, there are a lot of nights where after I've had a great podcast or I've won something and I'm like, "This is This is a big day."
[04:23] Right?
[04:26] And I'm winning in my life.
[04:29] And I'm making money.
[04:34] I'm I think I've done a I've done something successfully, right?
[04:37] Even after that, when I go back home, I sit down and I'm almost about to sleep,
[05:04] sit down and I'm almost about to sleep, I have these thoughts that
[05:06] I have these thoughts that what if
[05:07] what if I'm not good enough?
[05:10] What if tomorrow I'm not good enough?
[05:10] What if tomorrow all of this goes away?
[05:12] What if this all of this goes away?
[05:12] What if this success I can't recreate?
[05:13] What if all of success I can't recreate?
[05:13] What if all of this is luck?
[05:16] And these spiral thoughts this is luck?
[05:16] And these spiral thoughts just keep coming in again and again.
[05:20] just keep coming in again and again.
[05:22] And I almost doubt myself to the point where it's like 3:00 a.m. or 4:00 a.m.
[05:24] and I can't sleep and I keep overthinking.
[05:26] overthinking.
[05:28] And I'm sure there are so many people like me who go through the same thing.
[05:29] many people like me who go through the same thing.
[05:30] same thing.
[05:33] So, what's going on in my mind?
[05:33] Why am I thinking about all these things even on the days when I'm winning?
[05:35] am I thinking about all these things even on the days when I'm winning?
[05:38] Yeah.
[05:39] I think it's common for people, you know, I think we create based on luck, right?
[05:43] know, I think we create based on luck, right?
[05:47] Many people see something that they want and they realize that they don't have it and the natural thing is to create what you don't have.
[05:48] they want and they realize that they don't have it
[05:50] and they realize that they don't have it and the natural thing is to create what you don't have.
[05:52] and the natural thing is to create what you don't have.
[05:55] So, it's natural to create based on lack.
[05:58] And then we have to get up and work really hard to accomplish and then produce an outcome.
[06:00] to get up and work really hard to accomplish and then produce an outcome.
[06:03] accomplish and then produce an outcome.
[06:03] When we produce the outcome,
[06:05] When we produce the outcome, the experience then takes away the the the experience then takes away the the the lack because the emotion from the the lack because the emotion from the experience fulfills that lack.
[06:12] experience fulfills that lack.
[06:13] And then it's only transient.
[06:16] And then that lack kind of comes back again
[06:19] and it causes us to speculate what if I
[06:22] What if I don't succeed?
[06:25] And it's common, but what we discovered
[06:26] with people that do this when we look at
[06:28] their brains in real time
[06:31] is that when we analyze our life like that and we ruminate,
[06:35] we tend to make our brain worse.
[06:37] In other words, by doing that and
[06:39] overthinking and overanalyzing, you're narrowing your focus on something and
[06:44] you're doing that because the hormones of stress, right?
[06:46] The chemicals of stress
[06:48] stress are arousing your brain to live in survival and say, "What if I lose
[06:54] everything that I have?"
[06:56] When you're thinking within that emotion, you're actually causing your
[07:00] brain to experience more of those emotions
[07:03] emotions
[07:03] and you get caught in this loop, right?
[07:06] and you get caught in this loop, right?
[07:09] So, the point is is that none of that is good for you.
[07:11] In In fact, um you're actually turning on the stress response just by thought alone.
[07:16] And those chemicals of stress become addictive, right?
[07:21] And so, not knowing this, many people don't know this, but they're they're doing this just for some rush of adrenaline.
[07:29] And you can do that for hours because when you're in stress and you're in survival, you actually have to narrow your focus on the cause and people become overfocused and they overanalyze themselves and they overanalyze their lives.
[07:44] And they make their brain worse even when they have everything that they want.
[07:48] The big fear is what if I lose it, right?
[07:53] So, the fear then is the issue, right?
[07:55] So, then I would say to someone like you, you got to you got to face off with that fear and you got to make sure that that fear cannot influence your life in any way.
[08:06] And that's the thing, the emotion that you have to change.
[08:07] that you have to change.
[08:10] You said that's the fear that I got to influence and the fear that I got to influence and that fear has an influence on my life in some sort of way, right?
[08:15] Sometimes I wonder and I think that maybe it's a good thing.
[08:18] good thing.
[08:20] And and I let it drive because I feel like because I feel like this every time after every big opportunity,
[08:27] I work harder the next day because I overthink about it.
[08:33] Um I'm really really bothered by everything and that's why it helps me.
[08:37] Is that a good way of thinking or How old are you?
[08:38] I'm 29 now.
[08:41] 29. Well, [laughter] I think it's normal.
[08:43] First of all, I think a little agitation or a little fear is a good driver, right?
[08:49] I think it gets it motivates us because people don't want to fail, right?
[08:53] And they want to succeed or they don't they don't want to do the wrong thing or make the wrong choice.
[08:57] So, it's it's natural for us to have a little bit of a a stimulation like that.
[09:04] When it gets overly active, then it we get it gets in our way.
[09:09] our way.
[09:09] So, once again, I don't think it's bad, but once again, I don't think it's bad, but if if it drives you to kind of do more,
[09:13] I think it's great.
[09:13] But I don't think it's the ultimate reason why we should be doing things, right?
[09:17] Your ultimate desire maybe is not to live your whole life in fear, Of course not.
[09:22] but to live in a state of wholeness or a state of connection or a state of gratitude or a state of love.
[09:28] And I think we reach a certain point in our life where we just start questioning, is this loving to me living this way?
[09:36] Is it loving to me.
[09:38] So, at 29 years old, when I was 29 years old, I had a lot of I had a lot of ambition.
[09:42] I still have a lot of ambition.
[09:44] But, I think I have a lot more experience in life.
[09:48] Uh and that just comes, you know, over time.
[09:50] So, as long as the fear doesn't get in the way for you creating the life that you want or that you get addicted to that emotion, I think it's healthy to have a little bit of fear.
[09:58] It you know, it kind of kind of drives you a little bit, but just don't go too far with it.
[10:05] But,
[10:09] just don't go too far with it.
[10:11] But, let's say there are people who are feeling these fears, and they are feeling these negative emotions every night, and they're overthinking.
[10:17] And that is not helping them in their lives.
[10:19] How do they stop it?
[10:21] Yeah.
[10:23] Well, that's one of the reasons why we teach people that the reason that we use meditation is not to heal or or or to create success or whatever, or abundance, or to have a mystical experience, but we use meditation as a way to change, right?
[10:42] right?
[10:44] And so, to become conscious of those unconscious thoughts that you think when you're feeling fear, it's so important to become so conscious that you don't go unconscious to those thoughts again.
[10:58] In other words, just because you have a thought doesn't necessarily mean it's true, right?
[11:03] And if the anxiety and the worry and the fear is something that you experience on a daily basis,
[11:10] a daily basis, then in meditation, you have to become
[11:12] then in meditation, you have to become so conscious
[11:14] so conscious that you don't go unconscious and let
[11:16] that you don't go unconscious and let that fear run you.
[11:18] that fear run you. And then, how do you behave?
[11:20] Do you stay up and ruminate over those what if
[11:23] scenarios in your life?
[11:25] You have to become so conscious that you
[11:27] don't go unconscious and fall back into
[11:29] that habit again.
[11:31] And so,
[11:32] And so, the [clears throat] act of remembering
[11:35] the [clears throat] act of remembering and not forgetting in your meditation
[11:37] and not forgetting in your meditation is exactly how you change, right?
[11:39] So then that unlearning process is only
[11:42] part of it. Then there's a relearning
[11:44] process. Like you have to break the
[11:46] habit of the old self, but then you have
[11:48] to reinvent the new self. So when your
[11:50] meditation to become familiar with
[11:53] the way you think, to become familiar
[11:56] with the way you act, to become familiar
[11:58] with the way you feel. The word
[11:59] meditation means to become familiar
[12:01] with.
[12:02] To know thyself.
[12:05] And then in the reinvention process,
[12:07] what do I want to think?
[12:09] Let me remember how I do want to think in that situation
[12:12] how I do want to think in that situation and change in that moment and think and change in that moment and think different thoughts.
[12:17] And the only way I'm going to be able to think those different thoughts is not when I'm struggling in those emotional states.
[12:22] I have to program my brain in my meditation to begin to think in a different way.
[12:27] What do I want to believe?
[12:31] And a belief is just a thought you keep thinking over and over again.
[12:33] So with intention and with your attention, let me remember what I do want to believe.
[12:41] And if you keep thinking that thought over and over again, nerve cells that fire together wire together.
[12:45] You begin to install the hardware in your brain.
[12:48] But that's not enough.
[12:51] You have to do it enough times that those circuits begin to fire more automatically.
[12:55] They begin to hardwire.
[12:56] And now that becomes the new voice in your head.
[12:58] How do I want to behave or how do I want to act when I'm when I'm feeling fear?
[13:05] What What is it What's it What's it an alternative?
[13:07] What What does greatness look like?
[13:09] What would What would be loving to myself?
[13:11] Let me sit up in that state what I'm
[13:13] Let me sit up in that state what I'm feeling that fear and let me go into it.
[13:16] Feeling that fear and let me go into it and let me change it, right?
[13:18] So let me rehearse in my mind.
[13:20] Let me review how I'm going to behave.
[13:22] Mental rehearsal, the act of closing your eyes and choosing a a behavior.
[13:27] The research shows if you're truly present, the brain does not know the difference between the real-life experience and what you're imagining.
[13:35] So, the brain begins to fire and wire new circuits to look like you already did the act, right?
[13:41] Keep doing it and becomes a software program and it's more easy for you to behave that way cuz you've primed the brain.
[13:47] In other words, if you don't prime the brain and you're struggling, you have no circuitry to use, right?
[13:53] Yes.
[13:56] And then you have to say, "Okay, let me practice feeling a different emotion.
[14:00] Instead [clears throat] of fear, let me practice feeling gratitude.
[14:03] Let me see how many times I could bring up the feeling of gratitude.
[14:07] And if you in your meditation could bring it up over and over again and remember to feel this way, you keep doing it over and over again,
[14:14] doing it over and over again, you're making chemicals, right?
[14:16] And if you keep doing it, you can condition your body to feel that feeling more automatically.
[14:21] And you can begin to become familiar with a new way of thinking, you can become familiar with a new way of acting, and you become familiar with a new way of feeling.
[14:31] And [snorts] I think a lot of people just think that they have to stay stuck in there and they try to think positively when they're feeling really negatively, right?
[14:43] And that's not the solution.
[14:46] The work is, "Okay, now that I'm realizing that I'm struggling in the evenings, I got to do the inner work not when I'm struggling, but when I start my day or before I go to sleep at night.
[14:56] Let me remind myself where I'm not going to go, right?
[15:00] Let me remind myself what thoughts that I'm not going to entertain.
[15:04] Let me remind myself when I feel that fear that I can settle that emotion down.
[15:09] And when I start ruminating and I start acting this way, I got to remember that that's how I used to behave.
[15:16] that's how I used to behave.
[15:17] I'm going to begin to change when I begin to think differently, when I begin to act differently, and I begin to feel differently.
[15:23] Now, theoretically, it sounds easy, but there's no other alternative.
[15:27] Uh unless you rely on something outside of you to change your internal state.
[15:32] So, the act of changing from one state of mind and body to another state of mind and body, um and priming your brain and body to have the the the the biology, the circuitry, the chemistry in place.
[15:46] If you keep doing it, you'll begin to choose the thing that way more often, choose to act that way more often, choose to feel that way more often.
[15:54] And I think that that process is uh it takes a little bit of time.
[15:59] And but if you keep doing it, um yeah, people change all the time.
[16:04] There are so many things that you said right now.
[16:07] I want to go one by one, pick up like statement and theories one by one and go deeper on each of them.
[16:14] Before we start that, don't you think like these fears and the things that I'm thinking,
[16:17] thinking, I've been programmed this way since I was a child.
[16:22] There must be some incident or something that must have happened when I was five and then 10 and then 15 and then my external environment today and I don't know.
[16:31] There are so many things which have made me the way I am.
[16:38] Is it possible to go back and figure out what and how it happened which made me the way I am today?
[16:44] Well, I'll tell you how I see it.
[16:48] For the most part, I never really tell people to go back to the event.
[16:53] Uh I don't think it's healthy for them to review the event or the experience that caused them to be a certain way.
[17:00] I mean, insight really really doesn't change behavior.
[17:04] You could say, "My father was overbearing, my mother was a perfectionist, uh I didn't have a parent, whatever."
[17:13] It doesn't change.
[17:13] Uh the insight doesn't change the person, right?
[17:15] But what's more important the emotion,
[17:18] But what's more important the emotion, right?
[17:22] That's what is the residue cuz right?
[17:24] That's what is the residue cuz the end product of an experience is an emotion.
[17:26] Emotion.
[17:27] So a person has an experience in their life.
[17:29] I don't know, let's just make something up.
[17:32] They have a trauma, right?
[17:34] And then the event causes them to feel differently than they normally feel.
[17:37] The stronger the emotional quotient from whatever the trauma or the betrayal or the loss is, the more altered they are inside of them, the more the brain freezes a frame and takes a snapshot and that's called the long-term memory.
[17:49] And we can remember events better um because there's emotions associated with them, right?
[17:57] So let's just say the person has a a trauma in their life and from that trauma they feel fear or they feel unworthiness or they feel pain, right?
[18:08] And you say to them, "Why are you this way?"
[18:10] They'll say, "I am this way because of this event that happened to me 5 years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, 20 years ago, 25 years ago, 40 years ago, right?"
[18:18] What
[18:20] years ago, 40 years ago, right?
[18:21] What they're really saying from biological perspective
[18:23] is that I had this experience in my life
[18:25] and I have not been able to change
[18:27] since that experience cuz it altered who I am, right?
[18:32] The challenge is when people have traumatic events,
[18:34] traumatic events, whether they know it or not, when they review the event in their mind, they keep thinking about it, keep remembering it,
[18:37] they're producing the same chemistry in their brain and body as if the event was occurring.
[18:47] And so the body is the unconscious mind.
[18:49] It does not know the difference between the real-life experience that's creating the emotion and the emotion that person's creating by thought alone.
[18:57] The body's being abused and it's reliving the experience 50 to 100 times in one day.
[19:05] And it only takes a thought and a feeling, a memory and an emotion, a stimulus and response, and you can condition the body to become the mind of that emotion.
[19:16] Now, the body's literally living in the past, and it's so objective that it's constantly believing
[19:20] objective that it's constantly believing it's living in the same past experience.
[19:22] it's living in the same past experience. Okay.
[19:23] Okay.
[19:23] So, then what's the solution?
[19:26] It's the emotion.
[19:27] The person must look at that emotion, and they must learn how to transform that emotion into wisdom.
[19:35] Because the memory without the emotional charge is called wisdom.
[19:37] Now, what our data shows just about 100% of the time.
[19:41] And we work with prisoners, incarcerated people, veterans, Navy SEALs, Green Berets, um all different different cultures.
[19:54] And the one thing that resets the baseline for the trauma is when you open your heart.
[20:03] When you sit take you say to like a Navy SEAL or military uh special ops person if you can open your heart, it'll reset the baseline for the trauma.
[20:15] And these are trained, you know, individuals.
[20:18] When they start practicing breathing and start practicing opening their heart,
[20:22] start practicing opening their heart, and they start resting their attention
[20:24] and they start resting their attention in it, and they start cultivating
[20:25] in it, and they start cultivating elevated emotions there comes a moment
[20:28] elevated emotions there comes a moment where the heart actually begins to beat
[20:30] where the heart actually begins to beat more orderly. And the moment it starts
[20:32] more orderly. And the moment it starts doing that, it sends a signal right to
[20:35] doing that, it sends a signal right to the brain and tells the brain the event
[20:37] the brain and tells the brain the event is over.
[20:38] is over. And when that occurs, this little area
[20:40] And when that occurs, this little area of the brain called the amygdala, the
[20:42] of the brain called the amygdala, the the survival center of the brain
[20:45] the survival center of the brain literally gets turned off. And all of a
[20:48] literally gets turned off. And all of a sudden now, when the person looks back
[20:51] sudden now, when the person looks back at the past event they don't see it with
[20:53] at the past event they don't see it with the same emotional charge.
[20:55] the same emotional charge. And I think when we master our emotions,
[20:57] And I think when we master our emotions, we master our creations. And that memory
[21:00] we master our creations. And that memory now, when they look back at it without
[21:02] now, when they look back at it without the emotional charge
[21:04] the emotional charge is called wisdom.
[21:05] is called wisdom. And now they're no longer living in the
[21:07] And now they're no longer living in the past, now they're ready to begin to live
[21:09] past, now they're ready to begin to live in their future.
[21:10] in their future. So, we discovered
[21:13] So, we discovered that the way out is not trying to go
[21:16] that the way out is not trying to go back and figure out, why am I this way?
[21:19] back and figure out, why am I this way? It was this person's fault, it was this
[21:21] It was this person's fault, it was this experience. For many people that
[21:23] experience. For many people that actually excuses them
[21:25] actually excuses them from actually making the choice to
[21:27] from actually making the choice to change. Because as they review the
[21:29] change. Because as they review the memory, nerve cells that fire together,
[21:31] memory, nerve cells that fire together, wire together. And if they can work
[21:33] wire together. And if they can work themselves up into the emotion, their
[21:36] themselves up into the emotion, their body's feeling the same emotion from the
[21:38] body's feeling the same emotion from the past.
[21:40] past. And thoughts are the language of the
[21:41] And thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings of language of the
[21:42] brain and feelings of language of the body and how you think and how you feel
[21:44] body and how you think and how you feel is your state of being.
[21:46] is your state of being. They're stuck in that past state of
[21:48] They're stuck in that past state of being. So,
[21:50] being. So, analyzing and thinking and trying to
[21:53] analyzing and thinking and trying to figure it out never really resolves the
[21:56] figure it out never really resolves the problem. We discovered
[21:58] problem. We discovered if you can activate your heart center
[22:01] if you can activate your heart center and you can there's a process that we do
[22:02] and you can there's a process that we do with that.
[22:04] with that. If a person releases is sincere, once I
[22:06] If a person releases is sincere, once I start to practice elevated emotions,
[22:09] start to practice elevated emotions, the heart tells the brain that the event
[22:12] the heart tells the brain that the event is over.
[22:14] is over. But then,
[22:16] But then, is it working in today's world? Because
[22:19] is it working in today's world? Because the question is more and more people are
[22:21] the question is more and more people are facing some sort of emotional decay.
[22:23] facing some sort of emotional decay. Right? That is
[22:25] Right? That is you teach people in your whole work and
[22:27] you teach people in your whole work and what you explained me right now is about
[22:31] what you explained me right now is about open your heart,
[22:32] open your heart, have elevated emotions like gratitude,
[22:35] have elevated emotions like gratitude, love, openness.
[22:37] love, openness. When you have all of these things, then
[22:38] When you have all of these things, then you're able to
[22:40] you're able to rewire yourself and change yourself for
[22:43] rewire yourself and change yourself for better.
[22:44] better. What about a generation which is
[22:46] What about a generation which is which is facing certain level of
[22:49] which is facing certain level of what do I call it? Say emotional
[22:51] what do I call it? Say emotional amnesia. Like they're just against
[22:54] amnesia. Like they're just against not against, but they're they're losing
[22:56] not against, but they're they're losing their ability to feel deeply because
[22:59] their ability to feel deeply because they're constantly not thinking, not
[23:01] they're constantly not thinking, not creating, not feeling. They're just
[23:04] creating, not feeling. They're just bombarded by left, right, center
[23:07] bombarded by left, right, center algorithm and news and things and
[23:09] algorithm and news and things and they're just feeling negative. And
[23:10] they're just feeling negative. And nothing else and they've just gotten
[23:13] nothing else and they've just gotten numb to it.
[23:14] numb to it. So, the generation which is
[23:17] So, the generation which is losing their ability to feel emotions
[23:21] losing their ability to feel emotions deeply, is it possible for them to feel
[23:24] deeply, is it possible for them to feel certain way and change themselves?
[23:25] certain way and change themselves? >> What generation are you talking about?
[23:27] >> What generation are you talking about? Gen Z, Gen Alpha, the new ones.
[23:30] Gen Z, Gen Alpha, the new ones. Well, that's really There was a research
[23:32] Well, that's really There was a research about it. That's what I'm talking. Yeah,
[23:33] about it. That's what I'm talking. Yeah, it's really interesting because
[23:36] it's really interesting because what our demographic has changed in the
[23:39] what our demographic has changed in the last 5 years. Our demographic was a lot
[23:41] last 5 years. Our demographic was a lot older in our retreats, you know, we run
[23:43] older in our retreats, you know, we run big retreats.
[23:45] big retreats. And now our demographic is a much
[23:47] And now our demographic is a much younger
[23:49] younger demographic.
[23:50] demographic. And it's really exciting because
[23:53] And it's really exciting because many young people are realizing
[23:56] many young people are realizing the absurdity of, you know, mismanaging
[24:00] the absurdity of, you know, mismanaging their attention and mismanaging their
[24:03] their attention and mismanaging their emotions, right?
[24:04] emotions, right? And
[24:06] And they they've tried everything and, you
[24:09] they they've tried everything and, you know, a device that's giving them images
[24:12] know, a device that's giving them images and stimulation and and messing with
[24:14] and stimulation and and messing with their brain chemistry. And they're
[24:17] their brain chemistry. And they're realizing that nothing
[24:19] realizing that nothing is making that feeling go away that they
[24:21] is making that feeling go away that they have.
[24:23] have. And many people rely on something
[24:25] And many people rely on something outside of them to take away this
[24:27] outside of them to take away this emptiness or this pain or this confusion
[24:30] emptiness or this pain or this confusion inside of them. So, they take something
[24:32] inside of them. So, they take something and they notice it feels makes them feel
[24:35] and they notice it feels makes them feel better. The moment they notice it feels
[24:36] better. The moment they notice it feels better, they pay attention to what
[24:38] better, they pay attention to what caused it and they become dependent or
[24:39] caused it and they become dependent or relying on that on that substance. The
[24:42] relying on that on that substance. The problem is is whatever that is, even it
[24:44] problem is is whatever that is, even it could be a video game. Whatever it is to
[24:45] could be a video game. Whatever it is to distract you from that feeling,
[24:48] distract you from that feeling, as you said
[24:50] as you said when we started this talk,
[24:52] when we started this talk, the feeling always comes back, right? It
[24:55] the feeling always comes back, right? It it always returns after the high of the
[24:57] it always returns after the high of the drug or the or the video game or
[24:59] drug or the or the video game or whatever they're doing, the gambling or
[25:01] whatever they're doing, the gambling or whatever they're doing, distraction,
[25:03] whatever they're doing, distraction, that feeling comes back. And what's
[25:05] that feeling comes back. And what's happening with a lot of people is
[25:07] happening with a lot of people is they're looking
[25:08] they're looking for unconventional answers, right?
[25:10] for unconventional answers, right? Because they're not going to find any of
[25:13] Because they're not going to find any of the answers out there, right? So,
[25:16] the answers out there, right? So, um
[25:17] um you give a person
[25:19] you give a person the understanding that they have the
[25:21] the understanding that they have the power
[25:22] power to change, they have the power to create
[25:26] to change, they have the power to create a better life, that there's more to
[25:27] a better life, that there's more to reality than all the images and
[25:30] reality than all the images and stimulation and the news and the right
[25:32] stimulation and the news and the right and left and center.
[25:34] and left and center. There comes a moment where people are
[25:35] There comes a moment where people are finally going to say, "I've had enough,
[25:37] finally going to say, "I've had enough, right?" Uh and and I think everybody
[25:40] right?" Uh and and I think everybody arrives at that point at different
[25:42] arrives at that point at different times.
[25:43] times. But,
[25:45] But, I'm I'm optimistic about this kind of
[25:48] I'm I'm optimistic about this kind of resurgence of of interest where
[25:52] resurgence of of interest where people are really wanting to take their
[25:54] people are really wanting to take their power back and they really want to be
[25:56] power back and they really want to be more involved in creating a life that's
[25:58] more involved in creating a life that's more meaningful. And I think that if you
[26:01] more meaningful. And I think that if you look at the younger cultures,
[26:04] look at the younger cultures, if I were to then when I talk to our
[26:06] if I were to then when I talk to our youth community, I mean, huge youth
[26:07] youth community, I mean, huge youth community, you know, especially between
[26:09] community, you know, especially between the ages of 18 and 30, like very very
[26:12] the ages of 18 and 30, like very very large community.
[26:14] large community. Their their biggest thing is there's no
[26:16] Their their biggest thing is there's no meaning. Like, there's no meaning out
[26:18] meaning. Like, there's no meaning out there. Like, when you lose meaning
[26:21] there. Like, when you lose meaning for life, there
[26:22] for life, there it becomes a big challenge, right? So,
[26:25] it becomes a big challenge, right? So, give a person uh
[26:27] give a person uh the understanding that there is meaning,
[26:29] the understanding that there is meaning, that they can evolve, that they can
[26:31] that they can evolve, that they can change, that they can create, that our
[26:33] change, that they can create, that our community of like-minded uh like-hearted
[26:36] community of like-minded uh like-hearted people uh can get together and really
[26:39] people uh can get together and really begin to uh support one another in that
[26:41] begin to uh support one another in that change. I think that's that's the
[26:43] change. I think that's that's the future. So, my value really around it is
[26:46] future. So, my value really around it is community and and our our youth
[26:48] community and and our our youth community is just amazing. They they've
[26:50] community is just amazing. They they've created healing groups now.
[26:52] created healing groups now. Um we have a new program called
[26:54] Um we have a new program called Excalibur, uh which is a kind of elite
[26:57] Excalibur, uh which is a kind of elite program where they have to, you know, um
[26:59] program where they have to, you know, um uh
[27:00] uh you know, apply and then be accepted and
[27:02] you know, apply and then be accepted and then they have to fill out applications
[27:04] then they have to fill out applications and interviews and they have to submit
[27:06] and interviews and they have to submit videos. And once they're accepted,
[27:09] videos. And once they're accepted, then we're going to, you know, we're
[27:10] then we're going to, you know, we're going to fund them into, you know,
[27:12] going to fund them into, you know, universities and raise money for
[27:13] universities and raise money for scholarships and mentor them with with
[27:16] scholarships and mentor them with with different companies and organizations.
[27:17] different companies and organizations. So, I'm
[27:19] So, I'm the youth are our future, so very
[27:21] the youth are our future, so very involved in that, yeah. But do you think
[27:23] involved in that, yeah. But do you think somebody who doesn't feel that deeply or
[27:28] somebody who doesn't feel that deeply or is getting emotionally numb?
[27:30] is getting emotionally numb? Desensitized. Desensitized. Does that
[27:32] Desensitized. Desensitized. Does that affect their ability to create a better
[27:35] affect their ability to create a better future or a good future?
[27:36] future or a good future? >> I think emotions
[27:38] >> I think emotions uh can either keep us anchored to the
[27:41] uh can either keep us anchored to the past
[27:42] past when, you know, we're, you know, when
[27:44] when, you know, we're, you know, when we're memorized by those emotions.
[27:47] we're memorized by those emotions. But also emotions are actually what
[27:49] But also emotions are actually what drive us. It's the energy to create a
[27:51] drive us. It's the energy to create a new future, right?
[27:53] new future, right? And if you're lazy or lethargic or
[27:55] And if you're lazy or lethargic or uninspired or you've lost initiative or
[27:58] uninspired or you've lost initiative or you you have a desire for sameness
[28:01] you you have a desire for sameness or you're not creative in any way
[28:03] or you're not creative in any way because
[28:04] because the the only way
[28:06] the the only way that we actually really believe in a
[28:08] that we actually really believe in a future
[28:09] future is when we feel the emotion of that
[28:11] is when we feel the emotion of that future. It's really hard to believe in a
[28:14] future. It's really hard to believe in a future when you're feeling the emotion
[28:16] future when you're feeling the emotion of the past. In fact, many people will
[28:19] of the past. In fact, many people will continuously tell the story of their
[28:21] continuously tell the story of their past when they're feeling the emotions
[28:22] past when they're feeling the emotions of the past. So, that's what we do in
[28:24] of the past. So, that's what we do in our events.
[28:26] our events. Uh they're they're 7-day retreats
[28:28] Uh they're they're 7-day retreats and the first couple days are very
[28:30] and the first couple days are very uncomfortable. I tell the audience,
[28:32] uncomfortable. I tell the audience, you're going to come right up against
[28:34] you're going to come right up against yourself.
[28:35] yourself. And you're going to sit
[28:37] And you're going to sit and you can't grab your cell phone and
[28:39] and you can't grab your cell phone and you can't open your eyes and you you're
[28:41] you can't open your eyes and you you're going to have to face off with yourself.
[28:44] going to have to face off with yourself. And we give them something to do, right?
[28:47] And we give them something to do, right? By the second day, normally, maybe the
[28:50] By the second day, normally, maybe the third day in some groups,
[28:52] third day in some groups, there's this huge transformation that
[28:54] there's this huge transformation that starts taking place. There's There's a
[28:56] starts taking place. There's There's a curiosity. Like we have language
[28:57] curiosity. Like we have language specialists that come and study the
[28:59] specialists that come and study the language of transformation.
[29:01] language of transformation. And they're really intelligent
[29:03] And they're really intelligent professors and and researchers.
[29:05] professors and and researchers. Many people come to our events and they
[29:07] Many people come to our events and they have a curiosity, right? That's a kind
[29:09] have a curiosity, right? That's a kind of easy way to say it. And then
[29:13] of easy way to say it. And then we start the event
[29:15] we start the event and then they're challenged.
[29:16] and then they're challenged. And nobody changes
[29:19] And nobody changes unless they're challenged, period. And
[29:21] unless they're challenged, period. And I've been doing this a long time and and
[29:23] I've been doing this a long time and and I I can tell you that's a fact. If you
[29:25] I I can tell you that's a fact. If you give somebody
[29:26] give somebody something to do when they're challenged,
[29:28] something to do when they're challenged, like when you're challenged, don't do
[29:30] like when you're challenged, don't do what you typically do.
[29:32] what you typically do. We're going to give you what a formula
[29:34] We're going to give you what a formula that we've discovered based on more than
[29:36] that we've discovered based on more than 10 years of research. If you just do
[29:37] 10 years of research. If you just do this and stop doing that, if you can get
[29:40] this and stop doing that, if you can get through this, there'll be a breakthrough
[29:42] through this, there'll be a breakthrough and you'll start to feel again. And when
[29:44] and you'll start to feel again. And when you start to feel again, the common
[29:46] you start to feel again, the common language that people use after the
[29:48] language that people use after the challenge is connection.
[29:50] challenge is connection. They feel like they connected to
[29:51] They feel like they connected to themselves, they connected to love, they
[29:54] themselves, they connected to love, they connected to their future, they connect
[29:56] connected to their future, they connect on some level. Then after the
[29:58] on some level. Then after the connection,
[29:59] connection, the language is transformation. Like I
[30:01] the language is transformation. Like I am not the same person. Like that guy
[30:04] am not the same person. Like that guy that guy was struggling, I am not him
[30:07] that guy was struggling, I am not him any longer and there's a sense of
[30:08] any longer and there's a sense of temporality, right? There's a sense of
[30:10] temporality, right? There's a sense of temporality where a person says
[30:13] temporality where a person says this happened hundreds of times.
[30:16] this happened hundreds of times. No, no, no. The disease that I had,
[30:19] No, no, no. The disease that I had, whatever the terminal disease was or
[30:20] whatever the terminal disease was or chronic disease was, um
[30:22] chronic disease was, um belongs to that personality. I'm
[30:24] belongs to that personality. I'm literally somebody else. I'm somebody
[30:26] literally somebody else. I'm somebody else. I don't I'm not that person any
[30:28] else. I don't I'm not that person any longer and literally their biology
[30:30] longer and literally their biology changes, right? So
[30:32] changes, right? So the apathy that's created because we're
[30:34] the apathy that's created because we're desensitized, where there is no meaning,
[30:37] desensitized, where there is no meaning, where you don't really feel like it's
[30:38] where you don't really feel like it's going to matter, that existential kind
[30:40] going to matter, that existential kind of crisis,
[30:41] of crisis, it's not a bad thing to feel that,
[30:43] it's not a bad thing to feel that, right? I I mean, I think all of us
[30:45] right? I I mean, I think all of us uh at this point in history, like I
[30:47] uh at this point in history, like I mean, if you look at the world today,
[30:50] mean, if you look at the world today, uh it's really hard to be inspired
[30:52] uh it's really hard to be inspired because there's such that, you know,
[30:55] because there's such that, you know, chaos.
[30:56] chaos. And yet, I think
[30:58] And yet, I think community is that solution. So, a person
[31:01] community is that solution. So, a person then who joins a community of people
[31:03] then who joins a community of people where they say, "I need answers.
[31:05] where they say, "I need answers. I need answers, not philosophical, not
[31:08] I need answers, not philosophical, not theoretical, not spiritual. Well, I need
[31:11] theoretical, not spiritual. Well, I need answers of like what I can do in my life
[31:14] answers of like what I can do in my life uh that's practical
[31:17] uh that's practical cuz I don't want to feel this way any
[31:19] cuz I don't want to feel this way any longer. And the pharmaceuticals or the
[31:21] longer. And the pharmaceuticals or the diet or the treatments or whatever is
[31:23] diet or the treatments or whatever is not changing me in any way. This is the
[31:26] not changing me in any way. This is the moment of reckoning for many people
[31:28] moment of reckoning for many people because this is when they realize that
[31:30] because this is when they realize that nothing is making this feeling go away
[31:32] nothing is making this feeling go away and no one's coming for them.
[31:34] and no one's coming for them. Nobody's coming for them and they're
[31:35] Nobody's coming for them and they're like, "The I got to choose myself. Like
[31:37] like, "The I got to choose myself. Like I have to choose myself."
[31:40] I have to choose myself." When a person comes to that point and
[31:42] When a person comes to that point and there's that sense of open-mindedness or
[31:44] there's that sense of open-mindedness or open-heartedness or curiosity, um it
[31:47] open-heartedness or curiosity, um it leads them to a place where I think is
[31:49] leads them to a place where I think is really healthy.
[31:50] really healthy. And the contrast
[31:53] And the contrast for the lack of feeling
[31:55] for the lack of feeling causes us for many of us to want to
[31:58] causes us for many of us to want to feel. And so, many people say, "Well, I
[32:00] feel. And so, many people say, "Well, I can't really open my heart."
[32:02] can't really open my heart." Well, well, what emotions do you feel
[32:04] Well, well, what emotions do you feel every day? Let's look at that. Well, you
[32:06] every day? Let's look at that. Well, you spend the majority of your time feeling
[32:07] spend the majority of your time feeling this emotion.
[32:09] this emotion. Is that loving to you?
[32:10] Is that loving to you? >> [clears throat]
[32:11] >> [clears throat] >> No, I don't want to feel that way. Well,
[32:12] >> No, I don't want to feel that way. Well, let's not use a drug, let's not use a
[32:15] let's not use a drug, let's not use a computer game, let's not use your phone
[32:17] computer game, let's not use your phone or social media. Let's see if you can
[32:20] or social media. Let's see if you can change that emotion on your own.
[32:22] change that emotion on your own. And when a person finally frees themself
[32:25] And when a person finally frees themself from the chains of the past,
[32:28] from the chains of the past, the body is literally liberated. And the
[32:30] the body is literally liberated. And the side effect of them overcoming that
[32:33] side effect of them overcoming that emotion that many are addicted to
[32:36] emotion that many are addicted to is joy.
[32:37] is joy. It's the body liberated from being
[32:39] It's the body liberated from being tormented by the same emotion that's
[32:40] tormented by the same emotion that's keeping the person in the past.
[32:42] keeping the person in the past. And some people just have to reach their
[32:44] And some people just have to reach their lowest denominator.
[32:46] lowest denominator. That point where they're at their lowest
[32:48] That point where they're at their lowest level, where they just can't go on any
[32:50] level, where they just can't go on any longer, and they make up their mind to
[32:52] longer, and they make up their mind to change. Because when they're feeling
[32:55] change. Because when they're feeling that low, or
[32:57] that low, or no longer like themselves,
[32:59] no longer like themselves, they can actually observe themselves for
[33:01] they can actually observe themselves for the first time. They could see how
[33:03] the first time. They could see how they've been thinking, you know, they
[33:05] they've been thinking, you know, they can objectify their objective self.
[33:08] can objectify their objective self. And and it takes energy,
[33:10] And and it takes energy, and it takes awareness to disentangle
[33:13] and it takes awareness to disentangle from those programs. The beauty behind
[33:15] from those programs. The beauty behind the research that we've been doing is
[33:17] the research that we've been doing is that we now know that it's entirely
[33:20] that we now know that it's entirely possible. And then we have people that
[33:21] possible. And then we have people that have had
[33:22] have had horrible pasts, brutal pasts, traumatic
[33:26] horrible pasts, brutal pasts, traumatic pasts, abuse of all kinds, uh traumas.
[33:31] pasts, abuse of all kinds, uh traumas. Uh and some have done really horrible
[33:33] Uh and some have done really horrible things and seen some witness some really
[33:35] things and seen some witness some really horrible things. You know, 30 hours a
[33:38] horrible things. You know, 30 hours a week of panic attacks, uh trying every
[33:41] week of panic attacks, uh trying every drug, every pharmaceutical, every
[33:43] drug, every pharmaceutical, every therapy, exercising, uh you know, cold
[33:47] therapy, exercising, uh you know, cold plunges, um saunas,
[33:50] plunges, um saunas, diets, nothing was making their trauma
[33:53] diets, nothing was making their trauma go away.
[33:55] go away. Until they finally sat down and said, "I
[33:57] Until they finally sat down and said, "I got to look at myself." And when people
[33:59] got to look at myself." And when people really are willing to see
[34:01] really are willing to see what's beyond this emotion,
[34:04] what's beyond this emotion, what's beyond this belief, what's beyond
[34:06] what's beyond this belief, what's beyond this behavior, I'm going to sit and I'm
[34:08] this behavior, I'm going to sit and I'm going to and I'm going to work
[34:10] going to and I'm going to work on overcoming myself.
[34:13] on overcoming myself. It is the overcoming process that we
[34:15] It is the overcoming process that we discovered that is the becoming process.
[34:18] discovered that is the becoming process. And when people reach the middle of
[34:20] And when people reach the middle of their life, 35, 40 years old, 95%
[34:24] their life, 35, 40 years old, 95% of who they are
[34:26] of who they are by that age is a set of memorized
[34:28] by that age is a set of memorized subconscious programs. So, the only way
[34:31] subconscious programs. So, the only way you're going to become conscious
[34:33] you're going to become conscious of your unconscious self is to catch
[34:35] of your unconscious self is to catch yourself going unconscious. And every
[34:38] yourself going unconscious. And every time you catch yourself going
[34:39] time you catch yourself going unconscious and you become conscious
[34:41] unconscious and you become conscious that you get more conscious and get
[34:43] that you get more conscious and get better at um catching yourself from
[34:45] better at um catching yourself from going unconscious.
[34:47] going unconscious. So, we discovered that in
[34:49] So, we discovered that in the brain changes the most when you
[34:52] the brain changes the most when you reach that point where you don't want to
[34:53] reach that point where you don't want to go any further.
[34:55] go any further. >> [sighs and gasps]
[34:56] >> [sighs and gasps] >> And you just don't think you can. And
[34:57] >> And you just don't think you can. And when you go a little further, that's
[34:59] when you go a little further, that's when the brain changes the most cuz
[35:00] when the brain changes the most cuz you're leaving the familiar territory.
[35:02] you're leaving the familiar territory. You're leaving the known. And you're
[35:04] You're leaving the known. And you're stepping into the unknown. So,
[35:06] stepping into the unknown. So, I can't I can't
[35:08] I can't I can't um
[35:10] um I don't want to I don't want to support
[35:12] I don't want to I don't want to support the idea that uh people who have lost
[35:14] the idea that uh people who have lost their you know, their ambition to feel
[35:17] their you know, their ambition to feel will never feel again. They just have
[35:19] will never feel again. They just have They'll just have to reach a point where
[35:20] They'll just have to reach a point where they'll have to finally realize is this
[35:22] they'll have to finally realize is this serving me? And if it's not, I'm look I
[35:25] serving me? And if it's not, I'm look I have to look for solutions.
[35:28] have to look for solutions. You
[35:29] You Before we create a new reality or before
[35:32] Before we create a new reality or before we actually change ourselves,
[35:34] we actually change ourselves, we have to think about future, right?
[35:36] we have to think about future, right? That's what you're trying to say. Like
[35:37] That's what you're trying to say. Like you have to create a new perception or
[35:39] you have to create a new perception or imagination in your head.
[35:41] imagination in your head. But
[35:43] But what do you think about
[35:45] what do you think about people who are losing their ability to
[35:47] people who are losing their ability to imagine?
[35:48] imagine? There's almost I was reading a study
[35:50] There's almost I was reading a study that
[35:51] that there's some sort of imagination
[35:53] there's some sort of imagination collapse which is happening because
[35:55] collapse which is happening because as you grow older,
[35:58] as you grow older, your ability to imagine and create vivid
[36:00] your ability to imagine and create vivid images in your head keep declining.
[36:03] images in your head keep declining. So, you must have dealt with so many
[36:04] So, you must have dealt with so many people in your retreats who probably
[36:07] people in your retreats who probably must have forgotten
[36:09] must have forgotten how to imagine a better future or think
[36:12] how to imagine a better future or think about anything because they're so caught
[36:13] about anything because they're so caught up with their work, jobs, family drama,
[36:15] up with their work, jobs, family drama, toxicity all around them.
[36:17] toxicity all around them. So, their imagination muscle must have
[36:19] So, their imagination muscle must have either just gone or gotten weakened.
[36:22] either just gone or gotten weakened. Can you retrain yourself to think and
[36:25] Can you retrain yourself to think and imagine a future when you have never
[36:27] imagine a future when you have never imagined or thought about it. Yeah. Um
[36:30] imagined or thought about it. Yeah. Um the answer is yes, and I think there's
[36:32] the answer is yes, and I think there's I'll just give two reasons. There's many
[36:34] I'll just give two reasons. There's many reasons, but I'll give two reasons.
[36:37] reasons, but I'll give two reasons. Let's talk about the most obvious,
[36:39] Let's talk about the most obvious, right? I mean
[36:41] right? I mean uh everybody has a lot going on in their
[36:43] uh everybody has a lot going on in their life, right? And your brain is a record
[36:45] life, right? And your brain is a record of the past. It's an artifact of
[36:47] of the past. It's an artifact of everything you've learned and
[36:49] everything you've learned and experienced to this moment. It is the It
[36:52] experienced to this moment. It is the It is the repository of the
[36:53] is the repository of the autobiographical self. You're Raj
[36:56] autobiographical self. You're Raj because you come from a certain country,
[36:58] because you come from a certain country, you have a certain family, you studied
[36:59] you have a certain family, you studied certain things, you know certain people,
[37:01] certain things, you know certain people, you lived in certain places, you own
[37:02] you lived in certain places, you own certain things at certain times. And
[37:05] certain things at certain times. And when you meet people, you kind of you
[37:06] when you meet people, you kind of you you tell them who you are based on your
[37:09] you tell them who you are based on your experience in life.
[37:10] experience in life. >> [snorts]
[37:11] >> [snorts] >> So then, you have a neurological network
[37:13] >> So then, you have a neurological network for your mother, a neurological network
[37:15] for your mother, a neurological network for your father,
[37:16] for your father, a neurological network for your
[37:18] a neurological network for your siblings,
[37:19] siblings, for your cell phone, for your home, uh
[37:22] for your cell phone, for your home, uh because you've experienced all these
[37:23] because you've experienced all these elements in your life, right?
[37:26] elements in your life, right? And because you've experienced all those
[37:27] And because you've experienced all those elements in your life, you have an
[37:29] elements in your life, you have an emotion that's associated with every one
[37:31] emotion that's associated with every one of those people or objects or things or
[37:33] of those people or objects or things or places, right?
[37:35] places, right? And so, when a person is out of balance
[37:38] And so, when a person is out of balance or they're stressed, they've they've The
[37:40] or they're stressed, they've they've The stress is when your body and brain are
[37:42] stress is when your body and brain are out of balance or homeostasis. And the
[37:44] out of balance or homeostasis. And the the alarm system or the emergency system
[37:46] the alarm system or the emergency system switches on, and your brain goes into a
[37:49] switches on, and your brain goes into a heightened kind of uh aroused state.
[37:53] heightened kind of uh aroused state. Stress is created by not being able to
[37:55] Stress is created by not being able to protect predict something, not being
[37:57] protect predict something, not being able to control something, or having the
[38:00] able to control something, or having the perception in your life that something's
[38:02] perception in your life that something's going to get worse.
[38:04] going to get worse. And when that kind of alarm system
[38:06] And when that kind of alarm system switches on,
[38:07] switches on, it's a survival system. And what you try
[38:10] it's a survival system. And what you try to do then is you try to control
[38:13] to do then is you try to control and predict everything in your life. So,
[38:15] and predict everything in your life. So, the arousal causes you to shift your
[38:17] the arousal causes you to shift your attention from one person to another
[38:19] attention from one person to another person to another meeting to another
[38:21] person to another meeting to another thing to another place to another time.
[38:23] thing to another place to another time. And because you have a neurological
[38:24] And because you have a neurological network assigned to all of those
[38:26] network assigned to all of those elements, like a lightning storm in the
[38:28] elements, like a lightning storm in the clouds, your brain begins to
[38:30] clouds, your brain begins to compartmentalize. It begins to silo. And
[38:33] compartmentalize. It begins to silo. And it begins to fire out of order. If you
[38:36] it begins to fire out of order. If you were to measure the brain when it does
[38:37] were to measure the brain when it does that, it's very incoherent.
[38:40] that, it's very incoherent. And when the brain is incoherent, we're
[38:42] And when the brain is incoherent, we're incoherent.
[38:44] incoherent. And the side effect of that
[38:46] And the side effect of that is that we begin to become fragmented.
[38:49] is that we begin to become fragmented. We can't control our mind.
[38:51] We can't control our mind. And we're as you said earlier, we kind
[38:53] And we're as you said earlier, we kind of get very narrow focused. We begin to
[38:55] of get very narrow focused. We begin to overthink and overanalyze. And that's
[38:57] overthink and overanalyze. And that's exactly what drives the brain further
[39:00] exactly what drives the brain further and further out of balance.
[39:02] and further out of balance. So, what we discovered after years of
[39:04] So, what we discovered after years of study
[39:06] study is kind of narrow convergent focus that
[39:09] is kind of narrow convergent focus that many people are living by. They can't
[39:11] many people are living by. They can't They can't imagine their future when
[39:13] They can't imagine their future when you're living in survival. Why would
[39:15] you're living in survival. Why would you? It's not a time to create when
[39:18] you? It's not a time to create when Tyrannosaurus Rex is facing you. That
[39:20] Tyrannosaurus Rex is facing you. That primitive system is switched on, and all
[39:22] primitive system is switched on, and all your attention is on yourself, right?
[39:24] your attention is on yourself, right? You become very self-involved because in
[39:26] You become very self-involved because in survival, you got to stay alive, and you
[39:28] survival, you got to stay alive, and you got to put your attention on your body,
[39:30] got to put your attention on your body, all of the elements in your environment,
[39:32] all of the elements in your environment, and you're very obsessed about time.
[39:35] and you're very obsessed about time. Turns out that if you do the exact
[39:36] Turns out that if you do the exact opposite, and this is what our research
[39:38] opposite, and this is what our research shows,
[39:39] shows, if you broaden your focus,
[39:42] if you broaden your focus, and you begin to focus on space, on
[39:44] and you begin to focus on space, on nothing,
[39:45] nothing, the act of sensing space
[39:48] the act of sensing space and no longer thinking, and sensing and
[39:51] and no longer thinking, and sensing and feeling space,
[39:52] feeling space, causes those different compartments that
[39:55] causes those different compartments that were firing incoherently, out of order,
[39:58] were firing incoherently, out of order, they begin to synchronize. Those modules
[40:01] they begin to synchronize. Those modules begin to form and connect with one
[40:03] begin to form and connect with one another, and larger real estates a part
[40:07] another, and larger real estates a part of the brain begins to begin to fire
[40:09] of the brain begins to begin to fire more coherently.
[40:10] more coherently. Brain begins to synchronize. And what
[40:13] Brain begins to synchronize. And what syncs in the brain links in the brain.
[40:15] syncs in the brain links in the brain. And we have fMRI studies on this. We
[40:18] And we have fMRI studies on this. We have
[40:19] have uh a lot of quantitative EEG studies on
[40:21] uh a lot of quantitative EEG studies on this. Doesn't matter how old you are,
[40:24] this. Doesn't matter how old you are, how young you are, what your gender,
[40:27] how young you are, what your gender, what you eat, where you're from, your
[40:29] what you eat, where you're from, your socioeconomic status.
[40:31] socioeconomic status. Uh none of those elements matter.
[40:34] Uh none of those elements matter. That when you when you do this properly,
[40:36] That when you when you do this properly, the brain begins to function more
[40:38] the brain begins to function more coherently and more organized. And when
[40:40] coherently and more organized. And when that happens, the brain gets highly
[40:43] that happens, the brain gets highly creative. It gets It You're processing a
[40:46] creative. It gets It You're processing a different level of consciousness, a more
[40:48] different level of consciousness, a more holistic level of consciousness.
[40:51] holistic level of consciousness. So, that's called intention. The person
[40:53] So, that's called intention. The person all of a sudden can begin to imagine a
[40:56] all of a sudden can begin to imagine a future because they've moved from that
[40:58] future because they've moved from that survival state into a more creative
[41:00] survival state into a more creative state.
[41:02] state. At the same time, when they do that, you
[41:04] At the same time, when they do that, you kind of see this psychic union going on
[41:07] kind of see this psychic union going on between these two hemispheres.
[41:09] between these two hemispheres. And modulation goes down, which means
[41:11] And modulation goes down, which means the brain's firing more holistically.
[41:13] the brain's firing more holistically. The compartments are no longer divided.
[41:15] The compartments are no longer divided. They're more unified.
[41:17] They're more unified. When that occurs, person's starting to
[41:19] When that occurs, person's starting to feel more like themselves. Like, "Oh my
[41:21] feel more like themselves. Like, "Oh my god, I forgot. Like, this feels really
[41:23] god, I forgot. Like, this feels really great."
[41:24] great." At the same time, we see this kind of
[41:27] At the same time, we see this kind of cooperation with the heart. Like, the
[41:30] cooperation with the heart. Like, the heart all of a sudden begins to bloom.
[41:32] heart all of a sudden begins to bloom. It starts to become very coherent as
[41:34] It starts to become very coherent as well.
[41:34] well. >> [gasps]
[41:35] >> [gasps] >> Because when we're living in stress and
[41:36] >> Because when we're living in stress and we're living in survival,
[41:38] we're living in survival, and a person's distracted, and they have
[41:40] and a person's distracted, and they have kids and obligations and meetings and uh
[41:43] kids and obligations and meetings and uh and they're fragmented like that, uh the
[41:46] and they're fragmented like that, uh the arousal of those stress hormones, the
[41:48] arousal of those stress hormones, the person's not running, you know, exerting
[41:50] person's not running, you know, exerting themselves running. They're not
[41:51] themselves running. They're not fighting, and they're not, you know,
[41:53] fighting, and they're not, you know, fleeing and hiding. Uh this this
[41:56] fleeing and hiding. Uh this this adrenaline that's causing the person to
[41:58] adrenaline that's causing the person to step on the gas and step on the brake at
[42:00] step on the gas and step on the brake at the same time. And the heart is beating
[42:03] the same time. And the heart is beating against the closed system, right? So,
[42:05] against the closed system, right? So, the heart starts to beat out of order.
[42:07] the heart starts to beat out of order. And when it becomes incoherent,
[42:09] And when it becomes incoherent, incoherent waves cancel each other out,
[42:12] incoherent waves cancel each other out, and energy leaves the heart and you stop
[42:14] and energy leaves the heart and you stop trusting
[42:15] trusting and you stop connecting, you stop
[42:17] and you stop connecting, you stop communicating.
[42:19] communicating. You stop being creative. The heart is
[42:20] You stop being creative. The heart is the creative center. So, when the brain
[42:22] the creative center. So, when the brain gets highly organized and synchronized
[42:26] gets highly organized and synchronized you see this kind of energy move right
[42:27] you see this kind of energy move right into the heart.
[42:29] into the heart. And the heart is the creative center. At
[42:31] And the heart is the creative center. At the same time it resets the baseline for
[42:34] the same time it resets the baseline for the trauma.
[42:35] the trauma. We've seen beautiful brain scans on
[42:37] We've seen beautiful brain scans on this. The heart begins to beat like a
[42:39] this. The heart begins to beat like a great drum very coherently, very
[42:41] great drum very coherently, very orderly. It tells the brain to get
[42:44] orderly. It tells the brain to get creative and all of a sudden like
[42:45] creative and all of a sudden like grabbing a big sheet and going like
[42:47] grabbing a big sheet and going like this. It sends a wave of energy right to
[42:50] this. It sends a wave of energy right to the brain and the brain moves into
[42:52] the brain and the brain moves into alpha.
[42:53] alpha. Now, alpha
[42:55] Now, alpha is the imaginary state.
[42:57] is the imaginary state. Alpha is when you imagine, it's when you
[42:59] Alpha is when you imagine, it's when you dream, it's when you create. You no
[43:01] dream, it's when you create. You no [snorts] longer hear the critic in your
[43:02] [snorts] longer hear the critic in your mind that's talking to you, Raj. You
[43:04] mind that's talking to you, Raj. You should think about this, about this.
[43:06] should think about this, about this. What if this happens or what that
[43:07] What if this happens or what that happens? That's the analytical mind,
[43:08] happens? That's the analytical mind, that's the critic in the brain. That's
[43:10] that's the critic in the brain. That's beta brain waves, right? Going to Going
[43:12] beta brain waves, right? Going to Going to stress, you go into very high beta.
[43:14] to stress, you go into very high beta. Now you're over aroused, right? Now
[43:16] Now you're over aroused, right? Now you're overly alert, right? It's not a
[43:19] you're overly alert, right? It's not a good brain state to create in. In fact,
[43:21] good brain state to create in. In fact, you're going to force, you're going to
[43:22] you're going to force, you're going to control, you're going to fight, you're
[43:23] control, you're going to fight, you're going to compete. That's what you do in
[43:25] going to compete. That's what you do in that state.
[43:26] that state. When the heart informs the brain to
[43:28] When the heart informs the brain to become creative and
[43:30] become creative and the moment it moves into alpha, the
[43:32] the moment it moves into alpha, the critic shuts off and all of a sudden
[43:35] critic shuts off and all of a sudden your brain starts to see in pictures.
[43:38] your brain starts to see in pictures. Starts to see in images. It's It's It's
[43:40] Starts to see in images. It's It's It's in a flow state. It's imagining and
[43:42] in a flow state. It's imagining and creating, right?
[43:45] creating, right? And there's this kind of
[43:46] And there's this kind of synchronization. It's so beautiful.
[43:49] synchronization. It's so beautiful. Uh there's this kind of synchronization
[43:50] Uh there's this kind of synchronization that goes on between the heart and the
[43:52] that goes on between the heart and the brain. All of a sudden there's this kind
[43:54] brain. All of a sudden there's this kind of connection where the heart and the
[43:56] of connection where the heart and the brain start working together and we
[43:59] brain start working together and we discovered
[44:01] discovered that the more a person can relax into
[44:04] that the more a person can relax into their heart, and we can train people to
[44:05] their heart, and we can train people to do this. The more they relax into their
[44:08] do this. The more they relax into their heart, the more energy goes to the
[44:10] heart, the more energy goes to the brain.
[44:11] brain. And you start seeing the brain moving
[44:13] And you start seeing the brain moving into an
[44:14] into an really really elegant state.
[44:16] really really elegant state. >> [gasps]
[44:17] >> [gasps] >> You start seeing the baseline of the
[44:19] >> You start seeing the baseline of the brain sometimes theta, which is deep
[44:21] brain sometimes theta, which is deep sleep. The person's not sleeping, but
[44:23] sleep. The person's not sleeping, but there's a deep resonance to the brain
[44:25] there's a deep resonance to the brain where theta is starting producing
[44:29] where theta is starting producing a delta starting producing theta waves,
[44:31] a delta starting producing theta waves, right? So,
[44:32] right? So, there's waves on waves on waves in the
[44:34] there's waves on waves on waves in the brain.
[44:35] brain. When that occurs, the person is feeling
[44:38] When that occurs, the person is feeling really good, right? So, relaxed in heart
[44:42] really good, right? So, relaxed in heart and awaken the brain.
[44:44] and awaken the brain. And we discovered that people do this
[44:46] And we discovered that people do this with training really well.
[44:49] with training really well. It's not difficult for them to imagine
[44:51] It's not difficult for them to imagine that future. They're in the perfect
[44:52] that future. They're in the perfect state to imagine. The challenge is
[44:56] state to imagine. The challenge is overcoming their survival tendencies and
[44:59] overcoming their survival tendencies and getting their brain integrated, getting
[45:01] getting their brain integrated, getting their heart integrated, and getting the
[45:02] their heart integrated, and getting the two systems working together. So, we've
[45:05] two systems working together. So, we've seen this over and over again. Like,
[45:08] seen this over and over again. Like, theta tends to be the place where you're
[45:11] theta tends to be the place where you're very very suggestible
[45:13] very very suggestible to information. And that's when the door
[45:16] to information. And that's when the door between the conscious mind and the
[45:17] between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind is wide open. Now,
[45:20] subconscious mind is wide open. Now, remember 5% of your mind is your
[45:23] remember 5% of your mind is your conscious mind, 95% is what we program
[45:25] conscious mind, 95% is what we program subconsciously. What separates the two
[45:27] subconsciously. What separates the two is the analytical mind. So, as you begin
[45:29] is the analytical mind. So, as you begin to slow your brain waves down, you get
[45:31] to slow your brain waves down, you get beyond your analytical mind, you open
[45:33] beyond your analytical mind, you open the door. And now you can reprogram
[45:35] the door. And now you can reprogram because you're in the operating system.
[45:36] because you're in the operating system. Now, you're in there. Theta is when that
[45:39] Now, you're in there. Theta is when that when that veil [clears throat] is
[45:40] when that veil [clears throat] is completely gone. That's a hypnotic
[45:42] completely gone. That's a hypnotic state. So, then you can then rehearse a
[45:44] state. So, then you can then rehearse a new way of being. You could rehearse
[45:47] new way of being. You could rehearse a
[45:48] a a new life. You can decide what emotions
[45:51] a new life. You can decide what emotions you want to feel. The door is wide open.
[45:53] you want to feel. The door is wide open. You can begin to
[45:55] You can begin to reprogram yourself subconsciously. And
[45:58] reprogram yourself subconsciously. And when people sustain these states,
[46:00] when people sustain these states, Um,
[46:01] Um, is, you know, when waves are kind of
[46:03] is, you know, when waves are kind of orderly. If If waves stay orderly and
[46:05] orderly. If If waves stay orderly and they begin to interfere with each other,
[46:07] they begin to interfere with each other, they start building bigger waves. So, a
[46:09] they start building bigger waves. So, a person that's really, really practiced
[46:11] person that's really, really practiced at this,
[46:13] at this, they'll be their body will be in a light
[46:15] they'll be their body will be in a light sleep. They'll be in a liminal state, a
[46:18] sleep. They'll be in a liminal state, a non-sleep deep rest state where the
[46:21] non-sleep deep rest state where the body's feel so safe
[46:23] body's feel so safe that it could actually rest in that
[46:26] that it could actually rest in that moment. And when they rest into their
[46:27] moment. And when they rest into their heart like that, some people
[46:30] heart like that, some people have their baseline of theta. And then
[46:33] have their baseline of theta. And then theta starts carrying alpha, and alpha
[46:35] theta starts carrying alpha, and alpha starts carrying beta, and beta starts
[46:37] starts carrying beta, and beta starts carrying high beta, and then high beta
[46:39] carrying high beta, and then high beta starts carrying gamma. And then when the
[46:41] starts carrying gamma. And then when the person's in gamma,
[46:42] person's in gamma, they're super conscious. They're no
[46:43] they're super conscious. They're no longer the program, and there's waves
[46:45] longer the program, and there's waves upon waves. That's called resonance in
[46:47] upon waves. That's called resonance in the brain.
[46:48] the brain. And that's when we start seeing networks
[46:50] And that's when we start seeing networks recruiting and start organizing. And
[46:53] recruiting and start organizing. And that's when, you know, the they're
[46:54] that's when, you know, the they're recruiting a lot more brain power. How
[46:56] recruiting a lot more brain power. How long do you think it is possible for
[46:58] long do you think it is possible for somebody
[47:00] somebody in our generation who is
[47:02] in our generation who is constantly
[47:04] constantly driven out of algorithm and not out of
[47:07] driven out of algorithm and not out of imagination to go from
[47:10] imagination to go from just feeling 20 things at the same time
[47:13] just feeling 20 things at the same time because of the feed that they have
[47:14] because of the feed that they have curated to go from that point to a state
[47:17] curated to go from that point to a state of nothing and then to a state of
[47:19] of nothing and then to a state of actually imagining and creating a future
[47:21] actually imagining and creating a future that you're talking about. How long does
[47:22] that you're talking about. How long does it take?
[47:23] it take? If you come to an event, 2 days.
[47:25] If you come to an event, 2 days. Really?
[47:26] Really? >> Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
[47:28] >> Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Doesn't it get really uncomfortable to
[47:30] Doesn't it get really uncomfortable to sit with nothing and have and think
[47:32] sit with nothing and have and think nothing because you've never done it.
[47:34] nothing because you've never done it. Like most people have never done it.
[47:36] Like most people have never done it. Yeah, I I think that um one of the
[47:38] Yeah, I I think that um one of the things that I I think we accomplish
[47:41] things that I I think we accomplish really well
[47:43] really well um
[47:44] um is that we never, ever, ever
[47:47] is that we never, ever, ever give a person um a meditation to do
[47:50] give a person um a meditation to do without a lot of teaching. I think
[47:52] without a lot of teaching. I think knowledge and information is the
[47:55] knowledge and information is the forerunner to an experience. And so then
[47:58] forerunner to an experience. And so then every time you learn something new,
[48:00] every time you learn something new, you're making new connections in your
[48:02] you're making new connections in your brain. Like learning is forging new
[48:03] brain. Like learning is forging new synaptic connections.
[48:05] synaptic connections. >> [gasps]
[48:05] >> [gasps] >> And the Nobel Prize uh researcher Kandel
[48:08] >> And the Nobel Prize uh researcher Kandel in the year 2000 found that if people
[48:09] in the year 2000 found that if people just focus on one bit of information for
[48:12] just focus on one bit of information for an hour,
[48:13] an hour, one concept or one idea,
[48:15] one concept or one idea, they'll double the number of connections
[48:17] they'll double the number of connections in their brain as a result of their
[48:19] in their brain as a result of their interaction with the environment. But
[48:21] interaction with the environment. But here's the catch.
[48:23] here's the catch. If you don't review it,
[48:24] If you don't review it, if you don't think about it, and you
[48:26] if you don't think about it, and you don't repeat it, those circuits will
[48:28] don't repeat it, those circuits will prune apart within hours or days. So, if
[48:31] prune apart within hours or days. So, if learning is making new synaptic
[48:32] learning is making new synaptic connections, then remembering is
[48:33] connections, then remembering is maintaining and sustaining those
[48:35] maintaining and sustaining those connections, okay? So, what does that
[48:37] connections, okay? So, what does that mean? That we give people a lot of
[48:40] mean? That we give people a lot of information. I believe that science is
[48:43] information. I believe that science is the contemporary language of mysticism.
[48:45] the contemporary language of mysticism. I think science is what demystifies the
[48:47] I think science is what demystifies the mystical. So then before we ever tell a
[48:49] mystical. So then before we ever tell a person to focus on nothing,
[48:51] person to focus on nothing, uh
[48:52] uh they'll they'll give up in a short
[48:53] they'll they'll give up in a short amount of time.
[48:55] amount of time. But we explain, we combine quantum
[48:57] But we explain, we combine quantum physics with neuroscience, and
[48:59] physics with neuroscience, and neuroendocrinology, and
[49:01] neuroendocrinology, and psychoneuroimmunology, the mind-body
[49:03] psychoneuroimmunology, the mind-body connection, epigenetics, Newtonian
[49:05] connection, epigenetics, Newtonian [snorts] physics, electromagnetism made
[49:07] [snorts] physics, electromagnetism made really easily, right?
[49:10] really easily, right? >> [sighs and gasps]
[49:10] >> [sighs and gasps] >> And they they understand the
[49:11] >> And they they understand the information, and then they have to teach
[49:13] information, and then they have to teach that information to the person next to
[49:15] that information to the person next to them. They have to teach it back to
[49:16] them. They have to teach it back to someone. They have to remind themselves
[49:19] someone. They have to remind themselves of what they learned. And if they can
[49:21] of what they learned. And if they can remind themselves what they learned,
[49:23] remind themselves what they learned, nerve cells that fire together wire
[49:25] nerve cells that fire together wire together, right? And if nothing is left
[49:27] together, right? And if nothing is left to conjecture,
[49:29] to conjecture, to superstition, to dogma, and the
[49:31] to superstition, to dogma, and the person understands exactly what they're
[49:34] person understands exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it, the how
[49:37] doing and why they're doing it, the how gets easier. When the how gets easier,
[49:40] gets easier. When the how gets easier, because they understand the what and the
[49:41] because they understand the what and the why, they assign meaning to the task.
[49:44] why, they assign meaning to the task. And when they assign meaning to the
[49:46] And when they assign meaning to the task, they switch on their prefrontal
[49:48] task, they switch on their prefrontal cortex, you know, the boss of the brain.
[49:50] cortex, you know, the boss of the brain. And the boss of the brain wants an
[49:51] And the boss of the brain wants an outcome. I'm doing this intentionally
[49:53] outcome. I'm doing this intentionally because I want an outcome. Doing this
[49:55] because I want an outcome. Doing this with intention. I'm doing this
[49:57] with intention. I'm doing this meditation to make my brain more
[49:58] meditation to make my brain more coherent when I do these following
[50:00] coherent when I do these following things. So, now the person's less likely
[50:03] things. So, now the person's less likely to doubt or disbelieve when they
[50:06] to doubt or disbelieve when they understand the what and the why.
[50:08] understand the what and the why. If they can't explain it to the person
[50:10] If they can't explain it to the person next to them, it's not wired in their
[50:11] next to them, it's not wired in their brain.
[50:12] brain. So, we've done we do extensive teachings
[50:15] So, we've done we do extensive teachings where people have to engage in the
[50:17] where people have to engage in the information
[50:19] information and then teach it back to somebody
[50:20] and then teach it back to somebody before we get into the meditations. They
[50:22] before we get into the meditations. They have to build a model of understanding.
[50:25] have to build a model of understanding. It's so much easier to forget this
[50:26] It's so much easier to forget this information than to remember, right? So,
[50:28] information than to remember, right? So, you got to wire it in your brain.
[50:30] you got to wire it in your brain. But, experience then is the great
[50:31] But, experience then is the great professor.
[50:33] professor. If I can set up the conditions in the
[50:34] If I can set up the conditions in the environment and I can give them the
[50:36] environment and I can give them the right instructions, if they can get
[50:38] right instructions, if they can get their behaviors to match their
[50:39] their behaviors to match their intentions,
[50:40] intentions, if I can get their actions equal to
[50:41] if I can get their actions equal to their thoughts, if I can get their mind
[50:43] their thoughts, if I can get their mind and body working together,
[50:44] and body working together, >> [gasps]
[50:44] >> [gasps] >> they're going to have a new experience.
[50:46] >> they're going to have a new experience. Now, experience enriches those
[50:48] Now, experience enriches those philosophical circuits in the brain, but
[50:49] philosophical circuits in the brain, but the end product of the experiences as
[50:51] the end product of the experiences as we've been saying is an emotion. But,
[50:52] we've been saying is an emotion. But, not fear,
[50:54] not fear, not unworthiness, not pain.
[50:56] not unworthiness, not pain. This is a the experience that they're
[50:58] This is a the experience that they're doing causes them to feel gratitude or
[51:00] doing causes them to feel gratitude or unlimited or appreciation or love. And
[51:04] unlimited or appreciation or love. And the moment they feel the emotion from
[51:06] the moment they feel the emotion from the experience,
[51:08] the experience, they're teaching their body chemically
[51:10] they're teaching their body chemically to understand what their mind has
[51:12] to understand what their mind has intellectually understood. So, knowledge
[51:14] intellectually understood. So, knowledge is for the mind and experience is for
[51:16] is for the mind and experience is for the body. In other words, the
[51:17] the body. In other words, the information is no longer just in the
[51:18] information is no longer just in the brain. The information's now in the
[51:21] brain. The information's now in the body. They're embodying the truth of
[51:22] body. They're embodying the truth of that philosophy, that theory. And now
[51:24] that philosophy, that theory. And now they understand it, right?
[51:26] they understand it, right? And the And the chemical that's created
[51:29] And the And the chemical that's created from that emotion, that elevated
[51:30] from that emotion, that elevated emotion, is actually selecting and
[51:32] emotion, is actually selecting and instructing new genes. It's new
[51:34] instructing new genes. It's new information for our biology. That's what
[51:36] information for our biology. That's what we discovered.
[51:37] we discovered. You've done it once, what does it mean?
[51:39] You've done it once, what does it mean? You should be able to do it again.
[51:40] You should be able to do it again. If you can repeat the experience over
[51:42] If you can repeat the experience over and over again, neurologically and
[51:44] and over again, neurologically and chemically, you'll neurochemically
[51:46] chemically, you'll neurochemically condition your mind and body to organize
[51:49] condition your mind and body to organize and work together as one.
[51:51] and work together as one. And when you've done something so many
[51:52] And when you've done something so many times that the body now knows how to do
[51:53] times that the body now knows how to do it better than the conscious mind, now
[51:54] it better than the conscious mind, now it's innate in you. It's automatic.
[51:56] it's innate in you. It's automatic. You've mastered that that philosophy.
[51:59] You've mastered that that philosophy. You've become that knowledge, right?
[52:01] You've become that knowledge, right? It's a new state of being.
[52:03] It's a new state of being. Um
[52:04] Um And so, the first couple days is is
[52:06] And so, the first couple days is is important because
[52:08] important because there's a lot of information. Like, we
[52:10] there's a lot of information. Like, we just don't stay focused on nothing. We
[52:12] just don't stay focused on nothing. We we explain what that void or that vacuum
[52:14] we explain what that void or that vacuum is. We We We give it a quantum
[52:16] is. We We We give it a quantum understanding. We talk about how our
[52:18] understanding. We talk about how our senses plug us into reality and there's
[52:20] senses plug us into reality and there's a there's more information in the
[52:22] a there's more information in the inmaterial than there'll ever be in the
[52:24] inmaterial than there'll ever be in the material. And we you know, we we you
[52:26] material. And we you know, we we you know, we we design it in a way that's
[52:28] know, we we design it in a way that's very engaging so that the average person
[52:32] very engaging so that the average person And by the way, we have 8-year-old
[52:34] And by the way, we have 8-year-old children, 10-year-old We had a We had a
[52:36] children, 10-year-old We had a We had a We did a 10-day event in Cancun just the
[52:38] We did a 10-day event in Cancun just the last week.
[52:40] last week. Um
[52:41] Um for advanced students. And we had a
[52:43] for advanced students. And we had a 13-year-old little girl from from Italy
[52:46] 13-year-old little girl from from Italy that went through the whole entire
[52:47] that went through the whole entire thing, did every meditation. She was
[52:49] thing, did every meditation. She was spot on. And who's that Who's she going
[52:51] spot on. And who's that Who's she going to be, you know, in in 10 years from
[52:54] to be, you know, in in 10 years from now?
[52:55] now? Uh so,
[52:57] Uh so, we want We want to give people um
[53:00] we want We want to give people um enough tools so that when they go back
[53:02] enough tools so that when they go back into their life, they know exactly what
[53:05] into their life, they know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it.
[53:07] they're doing and why they're doing it. Before I ask you my next question, I
[53:09] Before I ask you my next question, I want my audience to just s- revise this
[53:13] want my audience to just s- revise this one
[53:15] one one sort of concept, which is alpha,
[53:17] one sort of concept, which is alpha, beta, gamma, theta, delta. Explain me in
[53:20] beta, gamma, theta, delta. Explain me in one one line and simple words what is
[53:23] one one line and simple words what is alpha, what is beta, what is gamma, what
[53:25] alpha, what is beta, what is gamma, what is delta, what is theta. These are my
[53:26] is delta, what is theta. These are my Yeah, that's fine. So, you and I are
[53:28] Yeah, that's fine. So, you and I are talking right now, right? And we're
[53:30] talking right now, right? And we're conscious and awake. And your brain is
[53:33] conscious and awake. And your brain is trying to create meaning between what's
[53:34] trying to create meaning between what's going on out here and what's going on
[53:37] going on out here and what's going on inside you, right? And because your
[53:39] inside you, right? And because your senses plug you into your environment,
[53:41] senses plug you into your environment, you got to integrate everything you're
[53:42] you got to integrate everything you're seeing and hearing and smelling and
[53:44] seeing and hearing and smelling and tasting and feeling, right? And when the
[53:46] tasting and feeling, right? And when the brain is integrating all this
[53:47] brain is integrating all this information, it goes into a a brain wave
[53:50] information, it goes into a a brain wave state called beta brain waves. So, when
[53:52] state called beta brain waves. So, when you're conscious and most of your
[53:54] you're conscious and most of your attention is pretty much on your outer
[53:55] attention is pretty much on your outer environment, you're in beta.
[53:58] environment, you're in beta. If I said to you, Raj,
[53:59] If I said to you, Raj, um I forgot to tell you there's going to
[54:00] um I forgot to tell you there's going to be a quiz that you have to take,
[54:03] be a quiz that you have to take, you know,
[54:04] you know, uh at the end of this podcast, you would
[54:06] uh at the end of this podcast, you would kind of perk up a little bit more and
[54:08] kind of perk up a little bit more and you kind of lean in and you know, you
[54:09] you kind of lean in and you know, you would move into a little bit higher beta
[54:11] would move into a little bit higher beta brain wave state.
[54:12] brain wave state. Then when you're really stressed and
[54:14] Then when you're really stressed and you're angry or you're fearful or you're
[54:16] you're angry or you're fearful or you're uh frustrated or you're uh resentful or
[54:19] uh frustrated or you're uh resentful or judgmental, you're in that high beta
[54:21] judgmental, you're in that high beta brain wave state. That's three times
[54:23] brain wave state. That's three times higher than resting beta, right? That's
[54:26] higher than resting beta, right? That's the alarm system in the brain. Some
[54:27] the alarm system in the brain. Some people get stuck there and they need
[54:29] people get stuck there and they need something to do or take to take to bring
[54:31] something to do or take to take to bring their brain waves down.
[54:33] their brain waves down. >> [gasps]
[54:33] >> [gasps] >> So, as you begin to slow your brain
[54:35] >> So, as you begin to slow your brain waves down and more of your attention
[54:37] waves down and more of your attention kind of goes on your inner environment,
[54:39] kind of goes on your inner environment, you begin to slow your breath down. We
[54:41] you begin to slow your breath down. We discovered that slowing your breathing
[54:43] discovered that slowing your breathing down slows your brain waves down. You
[54:45] down slows your brain waves down. You start to relax
[54:46] start to relax and you start taking more attention off
[54:48] and you start taking more attention off your outer environment, you close your
[54:50] your outer environment, you close your eyes,
[54:51] eyes, your inner world starts becoming more
[54:53] your inner world starts becoming more real than your outer world and the brain
[54:55] real than your outer world and the brain waves are a little bit slower, right?
[54:57] waves are a little bit slower, right? And that's alpha.
[54:58] And that's alpha. >> [gasps]
[54:58] >> [gasps] >> And you do this when you drive your car.
[55:01] >> And you do this when you drive your car. If you're driving on the freeway for a
[55:03] If you're driving on the freeway for a couple hours and you're just kind of
[55:05] couple hours and you're just kind of glancing straight ahead, your brain
[55:07] glancing straight ahead, your brain typically kind of pauses for a minute
[55:09] typically kind of pauses for a minute and you start seeing images and
[55:11] and you start seeing images and pictures. You're naturally going to
[55:12] pictures. You're naturally going to alpha.
[55:14] alpha. Um so, it's an easy state to get into
[55:16] Um so, it's an easy state to get into and many people can get into alpha uh
[55:18] and many people can get into alpha uh pretty naturally. And that is the
[55:20] pretty naturally. And that is the creative state. Imaginary state.
[55:23] creative state. Imaginary state. Theta is when your body is asleep and
[55:25] Theta is when your body is asleep and resting and you're conscious and awake.
[55:27] resting and you're conscious and awake. You're conscious in your subconscious
[55:29] You're conscious in your subconscious mind and there's no filter. There's no
[55:31] mind and there's no filter. There's no analytical mind. It's going straight in
[55:33] analytical mind. It's going straight in there and you can literally drop a
[55:35] there and you can literally drop a program or a new idea into the
[55:37] program or a new idea into the subconscious mind.
[55:38] subconscious mind. Uh theta is that hypnotic state.
[55:42] Uh theta is that hypnotic state. Delta
[55:43] Delta is when your body is in a deep resting
[55:45] is when your body is in a deep resting state of sleep. It's kind of catatonic
[55:48] state of sleep. It's kind of catatonic and it's restoring and repairing. Now,
[55:50] and it's restoring and repairing. Now, we used to think that that was the only
[55:51] we used to think that that was the only thing that theta was.
[55:54] thing that theta was. But we have some really really advanced
[55:55] But we have some really really advanced students
[55:57] students that actually can have a baseline theta
[55:59] that actually can have a baseline theta where their body is looks like it's
[56:01] where their body is looks like it's asleep and they're awake and they have
[56:04] asleep and they're awake and they have they have delta, theta, alpha, beta,
[56:08] they have delta, theta, alpha, beta, high beta and then gamma. Think about
[56:10] high beta and then gamma. Think about gamma as superconsciousness or super
[56:13] gamma as superconsciousness or super awareness. You're a very alert, very
[56:16] awareness. You're a very alert, very clear. You're not in a program.
[56:19] clear. You're not in a program. You're relaxed and awake instead of
[56:20] You're relaxed and awake instead of stressed out, unconscious and in a
[56:23] stressed out, unconscious and in a program. So, gamma is that kind of
[56:25] program. So, gamma is that kind of elevated state of superconsciousness.
[56:28] elevated state of superconsciousness. How long does it take for somebody to go
[56:30] How long does it take for somebody to go from beta to gamma?
[56:32] from beta to gamma? >> That's a great question. Uh they have to
[56:34] >> That's a great question. Uh they have to drop down into theta, most people.
[56:37] drop down into theta, most people. They have to drop down into theta and
[56:40] They have to drop down into theta and really get into that super relaxed and
[56:42] really get into that super relaxed and awake state. And then once they're in
[56:44] awake state. And then once they're in that theta state, that's when they climb
[56:46] that theta state, that's when they climb up to gamma. And some people we have
[56:48] up to gamma. And some people we have people in our community that can drop
[56:50] people in our community that can drop into into that state in 4 seconds, 5
[56:53] into into that state in 4 seconds, 5 seconds, 13 seconds, you know, a minute.
[56:56] seconds, 13 seconds, you know, a minute. They They've just practiced it enough
[56:57] They They've just practiced it enough times.
[56:58] times. They know how to do it. And uh just like
[57:00] They know how to do it. And uh just like anything else, if you practice, you get
[57:02] anything else, if you practice, you get good at it. How long do you think if
[57:04] good at it. How long do you think if somebody's never done meditation,
[57:06] somebody's never done meditation, how long does it take them from going to
[57:08] how long does it take them from going to their current state to this? Like, is it
[57:10] their current state to this? Like, is it years? Is it months? Okay. So, first of
[57:13] years? Is it months? Okay. So, first of all, uh that's a great question and I
[57:15] all, uh that's a great question and I want to answer this uh really really
[57:18] want to answer this uh really really objectively.
[57:19] objectively. Many times uh a person's mother
[57:23] Many times uh a person's mother will bring them or their spouse will
[57:25] will bring them or their spouse will bring them and the person's never
[57:26] bring them and the person's never meditated before and they're just like,
[57:28] meditated before and they're just like, I don't know about this.
[57:30] I don't know about this. When we test those people's brains,
[57:32] When we test those people's brains, sometimes they they have the best brain
[57:34] sometimes they they have the best brain scans because they have no preconception
[57:39] scans because they have no preconception of what to do. Like a lot of men that
[57:41] of what to do. Like a lot of men that come with their wives,
[57:43] come with their wives, they're like,
[57:45] they're like, "I don't know anything about Tell me
[57:47] "I don't know anything about Tell me what to do. I'm going to do exactly what
[57:49] what to do. I'm going to do exactly what you tell me to do." They do exactly what
[57:51] you tell me to do." They do exactly what we tell them to do, and they have really
[57:53] we tell them to do, and they have really profound experiences.
[57:55] profound experiences. Um so,
[57:56] Um so, um
[57:58] um whether you're whether you're an
[57:59] whether you're whether you're an advanced meditator or not, um if you
[58:02] advanced meditator or not, um if you follow the instructions, many people
[58:04] follow the instructions, many people will will drop in uh uh pretty easily
[58:07] will will drop in uh uh pretty easily and pretty naturally. In fact, our data
[58:09] and pretty naturally. In fact, our data shows like this is what our data says.
[58:11] shows like this is what our data says. >> [gasps]
[58:12] >> [gasps] >> Our data says that
[58:14] >> Our data says that novice meditators, right? People who
[58:16] novice meditators, right? People who have never meditated before, they come
[58:18] have never meditated before, they come to our events, they're kind of curious,
[58:19] to our events, they're kind of curious, but they're not sure.
[58:20] but they're not sure. >> Yeah. Um novice meditators who really
[58:23] >> Yeah. Um novice meditators who really don't have never meditated before, and
[58:25] don't have never meditated before, and that's the majority of our It's usually
[58:27] that's the majority of our It's usually 75 to 80% of our week-long retreat
[58:30] 75 to 80% of our week-long retreat people.
[58:31] people. At the end of 7 days,
[58:34] they look like advanced meditators. Not
[58:37] they look like advanced meditators. Not only in their brain,
[58:38] only in their brain, but in their biology. In other words,
[58:40] but in their biology. In other words, they're At the end of 7 days, they're
[58:42] they're At the end of 7 days, they're producing thousands of metabolites in
[58:46] producing thousands of metabolites in their blood,
[58:48] their blood, and gene expression, proteins that
[58:51] and gene expression, proteins that suggest that they're living in a whole
[58:53] suggest that they're living in a whole new environment, and they're in a
[58:54] new environment, and they're in a ballroom. In other words, they're
[58:56] ballroom. In other words, they're epigenetically changing
[58:59] epigenetically changing without relying on anything outside of
[59:00] without relying on anything outside of them. And that's 80% of the people that
[59:04] them. And that's 80% of the people that are novice meditators at the end of 7
[59:06] are novice meditators at the end of 7 days look like they're living in a whole
[59:08] days look like they're living in a whole new life, and they're in a ballroom.
[59:10] new life, and they're in a ballroom. And they're they're manufacturing all
[59:12] And they're they're manufacturing all kinds of chemicals that are pro-life,
[59:15] kinds of chemicals that are pro-life, pro-growth, pro-restoration.
[59:18] pro-growth, pro-restoration. Crazy.
[59:18] Crazy. >> I'm not I'm not saying that. That's what
[59:20] >> I'm not I'm not saying that. That's what the data's saying.
[59:22] the data's saying. You know, because
[59:23] You know, because >> [gasps]
[59:23] >> [gasps] >> you know, it's the
[59:24] >> you know, it's the Last night I was we were talking the
[59:26] Last night I was we were talking the deep we were talking to the team and we
[59:28] deep we were talking to the team and we all were discussing while we were
[59:29] all were discussing while we were searching for you
[59:30] searching for you that
[59:31] that we were just saying like after listening
[59:33] we were just saying like after listening to you for so many times
[59:35] to you for so many times I am one of those
[59:37] I am one of those I'm like yes meditation is a thing
[59:40] I'm like yes meditation is a thing but I've never explored it and I'm I'm
[59:42] but I've never explored it and I'm I'm not there yet like I don't maybe
[59:45] not there yet like I don't maybe it's not for me so you know
[59:46] it's not for me so you know >> You want me just me say one thing about
[59:48] >> You want me just me say one thing about that? Um just to clarify it. Um we don't
[59:51] that? Um just to clarify it. Um we don't do any traditional meditation, you know,
[59:55] do any traditional meditation, you know, I noticed that in my own personal
[59:57] I noticed that in my own personal teaching experience on my journey. The
[59:59] teaching experience on my journey. The moment you talk tradition
[01:00:01] moment you talk tradition or religion or culture, you're going to
[01:00:04] or religion or culture, you're going to divide an audience, right? They're going
[01:00:06] divide an audience, right? They're going to Someone's going to shut off. You have
[01:00:08] to Someone's going to shut off. You have to use science, right? That's the
[01:00:09] to use science, right? That's the language that we use.
[01:00:12] language that we use. And so um
[01:00:14] And so um what we what I discovered uh in in my
[01:00:17] what we what I discovered uh in in my own personal journey
[01:00:19] own personal journey is that if you if you people the right
[01:00:21] is that if you if you people the right information and you make learning fun
[01:00:23] information and you make learning fun and you make it easy, our meditations
[01:00:26] and you make it easy, our meditations don't follow any of the tradition. I'm
[01:00:28] don't follow any of the tradition. I'm looking at brain scans. I know the
[01:00:30] looking at brain scans. I know the words.
[01:00:32] words. I know the music. I know the timing. I
[01:00:34] I know the music. I know the timing. I know we have studied this so well. I
[01:00:36] know we have studied this so well. I know what works and what doesn't work.
[01:00:39] know what works and what doesn't work. There's no tradition to our meditation
[01:00:41] There's no tradition to our meditation at all. Um we do all kinds of
[01:00:43] at all. Um we do all kinds of meditations
[01:00:44] meditations in a 7-day retreat. You're not just
[01:00:46] in a 7-day retreat. You're not just sitting there focusing on your breathing
[01:00:48] sitting there focusing on your breathing or not we we we're way past that point.
[01:00:52] or not we we we're way past that point. We use meditation to change to go from
[01:00:54] We use meditation to change to go from the old self to the new self. We use
[01:00:57] the old self to the new self. We use meditation to get beyond your body, your
[01:00:59] meditation to get beyond your body, your environment, and time. We use meditation
[01:01:01] environment, and time. We use meditation to connect to that invisible field of
[01:01:03] to connect to that invisible field of information, the quantum field that
[01:01:05] information, the quantum field that exists beyond the senses
[01:01:07] exists beyond the senses uh that people really can begin to
[01:01:08] uh that people really can begin to interact with. Um and we use meditation
[01:01:11] interact with. Um and we use meditation to get beyond the analytical mind to
[01:01:13] to get beyond the analytical mind to reprogram ourselves. So, you're not
[01:01:15] reprogram ourselves. So, you're not going to hear that you know, our
[01:01:16] going to hear that you know, our scientists that come from all over the
[01:01:18] scientists that come from all over the country
[01:01:20] country uh
[01:01:21] uh they just they they walk in there
[01:01:24] they just they they walk in there thinking that everybody's going to be
[01:01:25] thinking that everybody's going to be wearing white and there's going to be,
[01:01:27] wearing white and there's going to be, you know, lavender and mist and you This
[01:01:30] you know, lavender and mist and you This is not how our events are. We're very
[01:01:32] is not how our events are. We're very engaging and they're very contemporary.
[01:01:35] engaging and they're very contemporary. And they're fun. They're like a like a
[01:01:37] And they're fun. They're like a like a like a rave, you know, they're very
[01:01:38] like a rave, you know, they're very active.
[01:01:39] active. Um I want to make it really
[01:01:41] Um I want to make it really reachable for every person. I don't want
[01:01:44] reachable for every person. I don't want I don't want it to be where it's so
[01:01:46] I don't want it to be where it's so exclusive that you have to work really
[01:01:48] exclusive that you have to work really hard. Now, I'm not saying that you
[01:01:50] hard. Now, I'm not saying that you you're not going to have to face off
[01:01:51] you're not going to have to face off with yourself
[01:01:53] with yourself for sure, but I'm pretty confident after
[01:01:55] for sure, but I'm pretty confident after 64 week-long retreats
[01:01:59] 64 week-long retreats um that the majority of those people, as
[01:02:01] um that the majority of those people, as I said, our data is
[01:02:03] I said, our data is is is pretty much over 80% of the
[01:02:06] is is pretty much over 80% of the population has some type of change. So,
[01:02:08] population has some type of change. So, we don't do meditation the traditional
[01:02:10] we don't do meditation the traditional sense. I'm using language based on our
[01:02:13] sense. I'm using language based on our language specialists. We we I can tell
[01:02:15] language specialists. We we I can tell you that
[01:02:17] you that at the end of 7 days, a person's
[01:02:19] at the end of 7 days, a person's language is different. Their voice tone
[01:02:21] language is different. Their voice tone is different. Their face is different.
[01:02:24] is different. Their face is different. Their microbiome is different without
[01:02:25] Their microbiome is different without changing their diet, drastically
[01:02:27] changing their diet, drastically different. Their brain is different.
[01:02:29] different. Their brain is different. Their heart is different. Their blood is
[01:02:31] Their heart is different. Their blood is dramatically different. Their
[01:02:32] dramatically different. Their microbiome, I said, their their gene
[01:02:34] microbiome, I said, their their gene expression is different. Uh their breath
[01:02:36] expression is different. Uh their breath is different. Their breast milk is
[01:02:38] is different. Their breast milk is different.
[01:02:40] different. Everything changes when a person
[01:02:42] Everything changes when a person changes.
[01:02:44] changes. All of this
[01:02:45] All of this Okay, if if I do this, will I have proof
[01:02:47] Okay, if if I do this, will I have proof for all of this? Yeah, pretty much,
[01:02:49] for all of this? Yeah, pretty much, yeah. I mean, I think I think, you know,
[01:02:51] yeah. I mean, I think I think, you know, the you know, one of the things that I'm
[01:02:53] the you know, one of the things that I'm super happy with is that the research
[01:02:56] super happy with is that the research that we've done, we just published a
[01:02:58] that we've done, we just published a great paper.
[01:02:59] great paper. The the research that we've done really
[01:03:01] The the research that we've done really points the finger at the fact that you
[01:03:03] points the finger at the fact that you can change and you can do it in 7 days.
[01:03:05] can change and you can do it in 7 days. And that's super exciting.
[01:03:07] And that's super exciting. You talk about that research, but I I
[01:03:09] You talk about that research, but I I want to talk about
[01:03:11] want to talk about a bad habit that I have. Okay, it's a
[01:03:15] a bad habit that I have. Okay, it's a it's almost like a good habit and a bad
[01:03:16] it's almost like a good habit and a bad habit, because
[01:03:18] habit, because I have problem in my life where I see my
[01:03:22] I have problem in my life where I see my friends and family members who are
[01:03:23] friends and family members who are stuck. I get uncomfortable when I hear
[01:03:26] stuck. I get uncomfortable when I hear my loved ones are stuck somewhere. Maybe
[01:03:28] my loved ones are stuck somewhere. Maybe it's because of money, it's because of
[01:03:29] it's because of money, it's because of some emotional pattern, maybe it's
[01:03:31] some emotional pattern, maybe it's because of bad relationship. I don't
[01:03:32] because of bad relationship. I don't know, wherever they are. I want them to
[01:03:34] know, wherever they are. I want them to like quit and just start something new
[01:03:36] like quit and just start something new and just move on from that, right?
[01:03:39] and just move on from that, right? Sometimes it is great because people
[01:03:41] Sometimes it is great because people have taken my advice and help to move
[01:03:43] have taken my advice and help to move over, and sometimes it's bad because
[01:03:45] over, and sometimes it's bad because uh before even trying to fix it, I'm
[01:03:47] uh before even trying to fix it, I'm like just just get away from this
[01:03:49] like just just get away from this feeling of stuck. Uh that's right.
[01:03:52] feeling of stuck. Uh that's right. But
[01:03:53] But what I've noticed
[01:03:55] what I've noticed a lot of times people don't want to get
[01:03:58] a lot of times people don't want to get out of it.
[01:04:00] out of it. Is it possible that you can help someone
[01:04:02] Is it possible that you can help someone transform when they don't want to
[01:04:04] transform when they don't want to transform?
[01:04:06] transform? Probably not. I mean, I figured I think
[01:04:09] Probably not. I mean, I figured I think one of the most impossible things in the
[01:04:11] one of the most impossible things in the universe is a closed mind. I mean, every
[01:04:14] universe is a closed mind. I mean, every you know, you have to honor free will.
[01:04:16] you know, you have to honor free will. And I think that comes with I think that
[01:04:18] And I think that comes with I think that just comes with experience or with maybe
[01:04:20] just comes with experience or with maybe just age, I don't know. You you realize
[01:04:23] just age, I don't know. You you realize that when the person's ready to change,
[01:04:25] that when the person's ready to change, uh they'll change. In fact, um I never
[01:04:28] uh they'll change. In fact, um I never offer advice to people in my life unless
[01:04:30] offer advice to people in my life unless I'm asked.
[01:04:31] I'm asked. That's just really a healthy way to do
[01:04:33] That's just really a healthy way to do it. I'll be I'll love them. I'll be
[01:04:35] it. I'll be I'll love them. I'll be inspiring. Uh I'll be my best for them.
[01:04:39] inspiring. Uh I'll be my best for them. Um but I won't offer advice unless I'm
[01:04:41] Um but I won't offer advice unless I'm asked.
[01:04:42] asked. >> Is there a pattern that they they love
[01:04:43] >> Is there a pattern that they they love to be stuck or they just don't want to
[01:04:45] to be stuck or they just don't want to get out of it?
[01:04:46] get out of it? >> I don't think that's it. I think Well,
[01:04:49] >> I don't think that's it. I think Well, yeah, I think there's two reasons, and
[01:04:51] yeah, I think there's two reasons, and they're kind of kind of related. Um the
[01:04:54] they're kind of kind of related. Um the hardest part about change is not making
[01:04:56] hardest part about change is not making the same choice as you did the day
[01:04:58] the same choice as you did the day before.
[01:05:00] before. And to unstick yourself means you have
[01:05:02] And to unstick yourself means you have to move from the known [snorts] to the
[01:05:05] to move from the known [snorts] to the unknown. And when you step into the
[01:05:07] unknown. And when you step into the unknown, it's unpredictable. There's a
[01:05:08] unknown, it's unpredictable. There's a lot of uncertainty. Things aren't
[01:05:10] lot of uncertainty. Things aren't familiar. Uh you're you're you're not
[01:05:14] familiar. Uh you're you're you're not you're not in you know that the past any
[01:05:16] you're not in you know that the past any longer and many people would rather
[01:05:18] longer and many people would rather cling to their suffering
[01:05:20] cling to their suffering or their challenging life than to take a
[01:05:24] or their challenging life than to take a chance and possibility because they they
[01:05:26] chance and possibility because they they don't know what that would bring for
[01:05:28] don't know what that would bring for them. So so they stay there
[01:05:31] them. So so they stay there uh
[01:05:32] uh because the the unknown is a scary place
[01:05:34] because the the unknown is a scary place for them. Turns out the unknown is the
[01:05:37] for them. Turns out the unknown is the perfect place to create from. It is it
[01:05:39] perfect place to create from. It is it is the place that we actually can create
[01:05:42] is the place that we actually can create something new from. We can't create
[01:05:43] something new from. We can't create anything new from the known.
[01:05:45] anything new from the known. So then
[01:05:46] So then the second reason really is just those
[01:05:48] the second reason really is just those very strong addictive emotions. Like
[01:05:51] very strong addictive emotions. Like the person may be using let's say
[01:05:53] the person may be using let's say they're let's say they're addicted to
[01:05:54] they're let's say they're addicted to fear, right?
[01:05:56] fear, right? Um and they may be using a person or a
[01:05:59] Um and they may be using a person or a situation in their life to reaffirm
[01:06:02] situation in their life to reaffirm their addiction to that emotion, right?
[01:06:05] their addiction to that emotion, right? And in time they become addicted to a
[01:06:07] And in time they become addicted to a life
[01:06:08] life that they don't even like, right? And
[01:06:10] that they don't even like, right? And that's why change is so hard because
[01:06:13] that's why change is so hard because with any addiction
[01:06:14] with any addiction you overdose,
[01:06:16] you overdose, there's bad trips,
[01:06:18] there's bad trips, um
[01:06:19] um yeah, there's rehab
[01:06:21] yeah, there's rehab and when you're overcoming some type of
[01:06:23] and when you're overcoming some type of an addiction the body is really craving
[01:06:26] an addiction the body is really craving something, right? And so
[01:06:28] something, right? And so uh
[01:06:29] uh many people can't move past the
[01:06:32] many people can't move past the addiction to that emotion until it gets
[01:06:34] addiction to that emotion until it gets really bad.
[01:06:36] really bad. And and for many people it's got to
[01:06:37] And and for many people it's got to human nature it's got to get so bad
[01:06:40] human nature it's got to get so bad where this intolerable where they
[01:06:42] where this intolerable where they finally say I have to make another
[01:06:43] finally say I have to make another choice.
[01:06:46] choice. You say that one of the hardest things
[01:06:48] You say that one of the hardest things to do is breaking the habit of being
[01:06:50] to do is breaking the habit of being yourself.
[01:06:51] yourself. But in society like ours, in Indian
[01:06:55] But in society like ours, in Indian society, Asian society, right?
[01:06:57] society, Asian society, right? You your identity is not only who you
[01:07:00] You your identity is not only who you are, your identity is a lot decided by
[01:07:03] are, your identity is a lot decided by where you're born
[01:07:05] where you're born the community you're in, the society
[01:07:06] the community you're in, the society you're in, the family or in the religion
[01:07:08] you're in, the family or in the religion you're born in and
[01:07:10] you're born in and you don't have absolute freedom to
[01:07:14] you don't have absolute freedom to create your new self. You there is
[01:07:17] create your new self. You there is certain expectations from you. There is
[01:07:19] certain expectations from you. There is certain level of
[01:07:22] certain level of legacy
[01:07:23] legacy of sorts. There is certain level of
[01:07:27] of sorts. There is certain level of rules and regulations of a particular
[01:07:29] rules and regulations of a particular religion or a place or community, right?
[01:07:31] religion or a place or community, right? There There's so many things that decide
[01:07:33] There There's so many things that decide your identity. In some places your
[01:07:35] your identity. In some places your identity decided even before you're
[01:07:37] identity decided even before you're born.
[01:07:38] born. How do you break free of this
[01:07:42] How do you break free of this this whole identity which is expected
[01:07:45] this whole identity which is expected out of you? How do you break and become
[01:07:47] out of you? How do you break and become free of
[01:07:48] free of something you didn't even choose? Every
[01:07:50] something you didn't even choose? Every every charismatic leader in history was
[01:07:53] every charismatic leader in history was uncompromising.
[01:07:54] uncompromising. Good or bad, they were just they led
[01:07:57] Good or bad, they were just they led because
[01:07:58] because they weren't going to be defined by any
[01:08:00] they weren't going to be defined by any of those things. To change is to be
[01:08:02] of those things. To change is to be greater than your environment. That's
[01:08:04] greater than your environment. That's what it really means. That no person, no
[01:08:07] what it really means. That no person, no circumstance, no condition would get in
[01:08:09] circumstance, no condition would get in the way of your dream. That doesn't mean
[01:08:10] the way of your dream. That doesn't mean you have to be mean-spirited or arrogant
[01:08:13] you have to be mean-spirited or arrogant or abusive. It's just that you have to
[01:08:16] or abusive. It's just that you have to give yourself the freedom
[01:08:19] give yourself the freedom to trust yourself to live the life that
[01:08:21] to trust yourself to live the life that you want. And for me, that's really a
[01:08:23] you want. And for me, that's really a high value. It's really a super high
[01:08:25] high value. It's really a super high value because
[01:08:27] value because if we allow our culture or our family or
[01:08:32] if we allow our culture or our family or our friends or even our loved ones
[01:08:35] our friends or even our loved ones to to to to decide or control how we're
[01:08:40] to to to to decide or control how we're going to live our life consciously or
[01:08:42] going to live our life consciously or unconsciously, we'll never know freedom.
[01:08:44] unconsciously, we'll never know freedom. Especially if we're living for someone
[01:08:46] Especially if we're living for someone else's happiness. Right? So, I I I think
[01:08:49] else's happiness. Right? So, I I I think you know, at 29, this is a good question
[01:08:51] you know, at 29, this is a good question because you you know, you struggle with,
[01:08:54] because you you know, you struggle with, "Oh my god, I'm I'm breaking free from
[01:08:56] "Oh my god, I'm I'm breaking free from my family. I'm I want to go out on my
[01:08:58] my family. I'm I want to go out on my own. I have I want to do these things.
[01:09:00] own. I have I want to do these things. My My parents may not understand." I
[01:09:02] My My parents may not understand." I mean, my parents just thought I was
[01:09:03] mean, my parents just thought I was just, you know,
[01:09:05] just, you know, way out there, but they always They
[01:09:07] way out there, but they always They always kind of supported me, right? And
[01:09:10] always kind of supported me, right? And and I and I and I wanted to deliver
[01:09:12] and I and I and I wanted to deliver uh because I wasn't doing it for any
[01:09:14] uh because I wasn't doing it for any other reason but to investigate what is
[01:09:16] other reason but to investigate what is you know, what is the meaning of life.
[01:09:19] you know, what is the meaning of life. So, I think that that I think that it's
[01:09:21] So, I think that that I think that it's healthy to ask this question right now,
[01:09:23] healthy to ask this question right now, because you are at this age.
[01:09:25] because you are at this age. Um but I think, you know, if you're
[01:09:26] Um but I think, you know, if you're sincere
[01:09:27] sincere and you're you're kind and you're loving
[01:09:30] and you're you're kind and you're loving and you make the choice for yourself,
[01:09:33] and you make the choice for yourself, you'll always be respected for that. Uh
[01:09:36] you'll always be respected for that. Uh if you make a choice for another person
[01:09:38] if you make a choice for another person and you don't fulfill what you really
[01:09:40] and you don't fulfill what you really feel in your heart or what brings you
[01:09:42] feel in your heart or what brings you the greatest joy,
[01:09:44] the greatest joy, >> [gasps]
[01:09:45] >> [gasps] >> you'll either resent the people that you
[01:09:47] >> you'll either resent the people that you that you love or resent yourself or uh
[01:09:50] that you love or resent yourself or uh uh you know, shrink into mediocrity or
[01:09:52] uh you know, shrink into mediocrity or reach a point where you're just going to
[01:09:53] reach a point where you're just going to finally make up your mind to do it. So,
[01:09:56] finally make up your mind to do it. So, if it's something that burns in your
[01:09:58] if it's something that burns in your soul and is something that you really
[01:10:00] soul and is something that you really want to follow, I think it's I you know,
[01:10:02] want to follow, I think it's I you know, I tell my children this all the time,
[01:10:04] I tell my children this all the time, go.
[01:10:05] go. Like, just learn from your mistakes, you
[01:10:07] Like, just learn from your mistakes, you know, dust yourself off if it doesn't
[01:10:09] know, dust yourself off if it doesn't work out. Ask yourself if it if if I'm
[01:10:12] work out. Ask yourself if it if if I'm facing this situation again, how would I
[01:10:14] facing this situation again, how would I do it differently? What did I learn from
[01:10:16] do it differently? What did I learn from it? Yeah, and and continue on your
[01:10:18] it? Yeah, and and continue on your journey. There's no right or wrong path.
[01:10:21] journey. There's no right or wrong path. For I For a young person to ask this
[01:10:23] For I For a young person to ask this question means that you're up against it
[01:10:25] question means that you're up against it on some level.
[01:10:27] on some level. And it really you you your real question
[01:10:28] And it really you you your real question is
[01:10:30] is you want to have a fulfilling life,
[01:10:31] you want to have a fulfilling life, right? And that fulfilling life is your
[01:10:33] right? And that fulfilling life is your journey. And and
[01:10:35] journey. And and it there there are dark nights of the
[01:10:37] it there there are dark nights of the soul in evolution where you realize that
[01:10:40] soul in evolution where you realize that nobody gets you. Yeah. Uh because
[01:10:42] nobody gets you. Yeah. Uh because they're not you.
[01:10:43] they're not you. And you know, you can't go back, right?
[01:10:45] And you know, you can't go back, right? You can't go that way any longer because
[01:10:48] You can't go that way any longer because it just doesn't feel right. And you got
[01:10:50] it just doesn't feel right. And you got to go this way and and and you can't ask
[01:10:53] to go this way and and and you can't ask anybody their opinion because they're
[01:10:54] anybody their opinion because they're not you, right? And this is a moment of
[01:10:56] not you, right? And this is a moment of reckoning where you just got to you got
[01:10:58] reckoning where you just got to you got to make that choice for yourself. So,
[01:11:01] to make that choice for yourself. So, um it is a challenge to live to live
[01:11:04] um it is a challenge to live to live authentically. [snorts]
[01:11:05] authentically. [snorts] Uh
[01:11:06] Uh but but there's nothing wrong with
[01:11:08] but but there's nothing wrong with having an identity or personality. We
[01:11:10] having an identity or personality. We all do.
[01:11:11] all do. But when it comes time to create, you
[01:11:14] But when it comes time to create, you got to be able to lay that character
[01:11:15] got to be able to lay that character down. You got to be able to drop Raj and
[01:11:17] down. You got to be able to drop Raj and become pure consciousness. You got to
[01:11:19] become pure consciousness. You got to lay down the identity or the character.
[01:11:21] lay down the identity or the character. And And that's exactly what we call
[01:11:23] And And that's exactly what we call getting beyond yourself. Turns out when
[01:11:26] getting beyond yourself. Turns out when you come back, when you get beyond
[01:11:27] you come back, when you get beyond yourself,
[01:11:29] yourself, the side effect is that you're more
[01:11:30] the side effect is that you're more kind, you're more caring, you're more
[01:11:32] kind, you're more caring, you're more loving, you're more present, you're more
[01:11:34] loving, you're more present, you're more free, uh you know, um you don't really
[01:11:36] free, uh you know, um you don't really care like what people think any longer,
[01:11:38] care like what people think any longer, um uh
[01:11:39] um uh and and and you're more tolerant, more
[01:11:42] and and and you're more tolerant, more more patient. It's the side effect of
[01:11:45] more patient. It's the side effect of overcoming yourself.
[01:11:47] overcoming yourself. Does that mean that
[01:11:49] Does that mean that you cut off people who are trying to
[01:11:51] you cut off people who are trying to pull you back? Because sometimes you
[01:11:53] pull you back? Because sometimes you don't want to cut them, and and you love
[01:11:56] don't want to cut them, and and you love your people, but they are causing an
[01:11:58] your people, but they are causing an environment which is toxic and pulling
[01:12:00] environment which is toxic and pulling you back to the darkness.
[01:12:02] you back to the darkness. So, you want to break free,
[01:12:04] So, you want to break free, but if you break free, there's a sort of
[01:12:06] but if you break free, there's a sort of guilt that
[01:12:07] guilt that am I doing the right thing or wrong
[01:12:08] am I doing the right thing or wrong thing?
[01:12:10] thing? Yeah, I mean, like
[01:12:11] Yeah, I mean, like >> cut off or no? Like, what do you do
[01:12:12] >> cut off or no? Like, what do you do then? Uh I think there's only two
[01:12:14] then? Uh I think there's only two options.
[01:12:15] options. If you can If you can behave differently
[01:12:18] If you can If you can behave differently around those people,
[01:12:20] around those people, or let me say it another way,
[01:12:23] or let me say it another way, um
[01:12:24] um if you can be less uh reactionary or
[01:12:27] if you can be less uh reactionary or less unconscious,
[01:12:29] less unconscious, and that may take you really thinking
[01:12:31] and that may take you really thinking about, you know, I mean, parents and
[01:12:32] about, you know, I mean, parents and family are the biggest challenge, right?
[01:12:34] family are the biggest challenge, right? Because Well, they're so close to us,
[01:12:36] Because Well, they're so close to us, right? And they can push buttons
[01:12:38] right? And they can push buttons automatically, right?
[01:12:40] automatically, right? So, if you can behave differently or not
[01:12:42] So, if you can behave differently or not react or stay conscious around those
[01:12:45] react or stay conscious around those people,
[01:12:47] people, then by all means, do it. But also,
[01:12:49] then by all means, do it. But also, there may be a period of time where you
[01:12:51] there may be a period of time where you may have to separate yourself from
[01:12:53] may have to separate yourself from certain people and certain things at
[01:12:56] certain people and certain things at certain times because
[01:12:57] certain times because they remind you too much of
[01:13:00] they remind you too much of your you're the self that you no longer
[01:13:02] your you're the self that you no longer want to be, right? And I've done that in
[01:13:04] want to be, right? And I've done that in my life where I've just been like
[01:13:06] my life where I've just been like I need a break. Uh if they love me
[01:13:09] I need a break. Uh if they love me they'll get it, right? And that's when
[01:13:11] they'll get it, right? And that's when you just kind of work on you and then
[01:13:13] you just kind of work on you and then when you're really happy with you and
[01:13:15] when you're really happy with you and this is again what our data shows.
[01:13:17] this is again what our data shows. When you're really happy with you,
[01:13:18] When you're really happy with you, you're happy with everybody. Like
[01:13:20] you're happy with everybody. Like there's nobody that and and your
[01:13:22] there's nobody that and and your oxytocin levels go we have this
[01:13:23] oxytocin levels go we have this research, right? And when your oxytocin
[01:13:25] research, right? And when your oxytocin levels go up, it's impossible to hold a
[01:13:27] levels go up, it's impossible to hold a grudge. It's you you rather feel this
[01:13:29] grudge. It's you you rather feel this way than any other way, right?
[01:13:31] way than any other way, right? So
[01:13:33] So there's no right or wrong answer
[01:13:35] there's no right or wrong answer but I do think if you're truly in the
[01:13:37] but I do think if you're truly in the river of change, if you're truly wanting
[01:13:39] river of change, if you're truly wanting to change, sometimes you have to like
[01:13:42] to change, sometimes you have to like avoid certain experiences with certain
[01:13:44] avoid certain experiences with certain people at certain times at certain
[01:13:46] people at certain times at certain places
[01:13:47] places because you could fall back very easily
[01:13:49] because you could fall back very easily back into the same state. And and when
[01:13:52] back into the same state. And and when you finally make that transformation and
[01:13:53] you finally make that transformation and change, you'll know because when you
[01:13:55] change, you'll know because when you show up and you're around them,
[01:13:57] show up and you're around them, there's no longer a charge or no longer
[01:13:59] there's no longer a charge or no longer a button that that's how you know you've
[01:14:01] a button that that's how you know you've changed, yeah.
[01:14:02] changed, yeah. Why do you think why people fail?
[01:14:04] Why do you think why people fail? There are so many people who do the
[01:14:06] There are so many people who do the right thing.
[01:14:07] right thing. You you've dealt with thousands of
[01:14:09] You you've dealt with thousands of people.
[01:14:10] people. They're doing everything right but
[01:14:12] They're doing everything right but they're still not able to change and
[01:14:13] they're still not able to change and create a new reality. They're not able
[01:14:15] create a new reality. They're not able to
[01:14:16] to build a better life. What are
[01:14:18] build a better life. What are specifically if you can give me, what
[01:14:20] specifically if you can give me, what are like top two or three things that
[01:14:23] are like top two or three things that people do wrong which is why they're not
[01:14:25] people do wrong which is why they're not able to change at all? Many people, you
[01:14:26] able to change at all? Many people, you know, will will say, "Oh my god, I'm I'm
[01:14:29] know, will will say, "Oh my god, I'm I'm doing the work. Uh I'm I'm dedicating uh
[01:14:33] doing the work. Uh I'm I'm dedicating uh 45 minutes a day to my meditations. I
[01:14:36] 45 minutes a day to my meditations. I haven't seen much change my life. I'm
[01:14:38] haven't seen much change my life. I'm happier. I'm you know, I feel better but
[01:14:41] happier. I'm you know, I feel better but I'm not seeing the changes I want in my
[01:14:43] I'm not seeing the changes I want in my life." It it doesn't mean
[01:14:46] life." It it doesn't mean that the principles don't work for that
[01:14:49] that the principles don't work for that person.
[01:14:50] person. That means that there's some blind spot,
[01:14:54] That means that there's some blind spot, some place where they're not seeing
[01:14:57] some place where they're not seeing themselves that they need to look. I
[01:14:59] themselves that they need to look. I mean, this is the tough part, right?
[01:15:03] mean, this is the tough part, right? And there's so many variables, Raj,
[01:15:04] And there's so many variables, Raj, because some people will get in the
[01:15:06] because some people will get in the routine of doing the same
[01:15:08] routine of doing the same uh
[01:15:09] uh meditation every day and there it's
[01:15:12] meditation every day and there it's become such a routine that they have no
[01:15:14] become such a routine that they have no meaning.
[01:15:15] meaning. They don't understand the what and the
[01:15:16] They don't understand the what and the why any longer and it's just another
[01:15:18] why any longer and it's just another thing they have to doing to to do the
[01:15:19] thing they have to doing to to do the right thing or to please God or to be
[01:15:22] right thing or to please God or to be more perfect or whatever. None of that
[01:15:24] more perfect or whatever. None of that matters, right?
[01:15:26] matters, right? And then other people um have a great
[01:15:29] And then other people um have a great 45-minute meditation
[01:15:31] 45-minute meditation and then they get up and they spend the
[01:15:33] and then they get up and they spend the next 16 hours of their day stressed out,
[01:15:36] next 16 hours of their day stressed out, unconscious, and living in a program.
[01:15:38] unconscious, and living in a program. Okay, so what was the purpose of
[01:15:40] Okay, so what was the purpose of meditation?
[01:15:41] meditation? The purpose of meditation
[01:15:43] The purpose of meditation is to be more mindful in your life.
[01:15:46] is to be more mindful in your life. You practice that so that when you're in
[01:15:49] You practice that so that when you're in your life, you don't go unconscious.
[01:15:51] your life, you don't go unconscious. That's why you do it, right? So, the
[01:15:53] That's why you do it, right? So, the person may have 1 hour 45-minute great
[01:15:56] person may have 1 hour 45-minute great meditation. It's happened to all of us.
[01:15:58] meditation. It's happened to all of us. And then they spend the rest of their
[01:15:59] And then they spend the rest of their day living in the hormones of stress or
[01:16:01] day living in the hormones of stress or living in fear or living out of balance
[01:16:03] living in fear or living out of balance and you got to do the math, like 1 hour
[01:16:06] and you got to do the math, like 1 hour 45 minutes against this amount of time.
[01:16:09] 45 minutes against this amount of time. You got to get really good at doing it
[01:16:11] You got to get really good at doing it with your eyes open.
[01:16:12] with your eyes open. And many people that heal from
[01:16:15] And many people that heal from uh health conditions in our work, it's
[01:16:18] uh health conditions in our work, it's really interesting because that's
[01:16:19] really interesting because that's exactly what happens. They'll say, "Hey,
[01:16:22] exactly what happens. They'll say, "Hey, I started doing the work. I'm sleeping
[01:16:24] I started doing the work. I'm sleeping better.
[01:16:25] better. Uh I have less pain.
[01:16:27] Uh I have less pain. I have more energy.
[01:16:29] I have more energy. Um I feel happier. I feel better, but my
[01:16:33] Um I feel happier. I feel better, but my di- my my my scans and my blood tests
[01:16:37] di- my my my scans and my blood tests really haven't changed much."
[01:16:39] really haven't changed much." They don't go, "Oh my God, it it's not
[01:16:41] They don't go, "Oh my God, it it's not going to work for me. What they say is,
[01:16:43] going to work for me. What they say is, okay,
[01:16:44] okay, what am I doing here? What is What am I
[01:16:46] what am I doing here? What is What am I missing?
[01:16:47] missing? Oh my god, I Every time I do my
[01:16:49] Oh my god, I Every time I do my meditation, I feel great, but then I see
[01:16:52] meditation, I feel great, but then I see my ex, or I see my co-worker, or I see
[01:16:55] my ex, or I see my co-worker, or I see my mother-in-law, or I see my father, or
[01:16:57] my mother-in-law, or I see my father, or my brother, or whatever, and I react.
[01:17:00] my brother, or whatever, and I react. Uh, if I'm reacting
[01:17:03] Uh, if I'm reacting and feeling the same emotion, I just
[01:17:05] and feeling the same emotion, I just defaulted.
[01:17:07] defaulted. I return back to my old self, and it's
[01:17:09] I return back to my old self, and it's seamless. Because the moment you feel
[01:17:11] seamless. Because the moment you feel that emotion when you react, you behave
[01:17:13] that emotion when you react, you behave as if you're in your past, and you
[01:17:15] as if you're in your past, and you believe in your past. And it's so
[01:17:16] believe in your past. And it's so seamless that we can go unconscious in a
[01:17:18] seamless that we can go unconscious in a matter of seconds. So, the person then
[01:17:20] matter of seconds. So, the person then says,
[01:17:22] says, I want life.
[01:17:24] I want life. I want health.
[01:17:25] I want health. I want healing
[01:17:27] I want healing more than my resentment or or anger
[01:17:29] more than my resentment or or anger towards my co-worker.
[01:17:32] towards my co-worker. Uh, what would greatness look like? What
[01:17:33] Uh, what would greatness look like? What would love do? Uh, that means I got to
[01:17:36] would love do? Uh, that means I got to be more kind and more compassionate.
[01:17:38] be more kind and more compassionate. Uh, I don't know if I want to Well, if
[01:17:40] Uh, I don't know if I want to Well, if it means my life,
[01:17:41] it means my life, >> [gasps]
[01:17:41] >> [gasps] >> I'm going to try it out. So, then they
[01:17:43] >> I'm going to try it out. So, then they close their eyes, and they start to
[01:17:44] close their eyes, and they start to rehearse.
[01:17:46] rehearse. When I see my co-worker,
[01:17:48] When I see my co-worker, I'm going to remind myself what I'm not
[01:17:49] I'm going to remind myself what I'm not going to do. I'm going to remind myself
[01:17:51] going to do. I'm going to remind myself what I am going to do. And as they
[01:17:53] what I am going to do. And as they rehearse the act in their mind over and
[01:17:54] rehearse the act in their mind over and over again, as I said earlier, they're
[01:17:56] over again, as I said earlier, they're starting to insult install some
[01:17:58] starting to insult install some circuitry. They're priming their brain.
[01:18:00] circuitry. They're priming their brain. If they keep doing it enough times,
[01:18:02] If they keep doing it enough times, enough times, enough times, enough
[01:18:03] enough times, enough times, enough times, it's going to become more
[01:18:04] times, it's going to become more automatic, right? It's going to become
[01:18:06] automatic, right? It's going to become more like a software program. So, then
[01:18:08] more like a software program. So, then they they get in the presence of their
[01:18:10] they they get in the presence of their co-worker, they get in the presence of
[01:18:12] co-worker, they get in the presence of their ex, or their mother-in-law,
[01:18:15] their ex, or their mother-in-law, whoever,
[01:18:16] whoever, and they they get their behaviors to
[01:18:18] and they they get their behaviors to match their intentions. And when they
[01:18:19] match their intentions. And when they do, they create a new experience. And
[01:18:20] do, they create a new experience. And the experience produces a different
[01:18:22] the experience produces a different emotion, and they're like, "Oh my god, I
[01:18:24] emotion, and they're like, "Oh my god, I felt compassion and love for that
[01:18:26] felt compassion and love for that person,
[01:18:28] person, and I don't know what happened. It all
[01:18:30] and I don't know what happened. It all shifted for me." Now,
[01:18:32] shifted for me." Now, that's good medicine right there. That's
[01:18:35] that's good medicine right there. That's real medicine right there. So, the
[01:18:37] real medicine right there. So, the person then goes, "Oh my god, now
[01:18:41] person then goes, "Oh my god, now I've mastered that emotion and I've
[01:18:44] I've mastered that emotion and I've mastered my creation, right?" So they're
[01:18:46] mastered my creation, right?" So they're getting really good at evolving
[01:18:48] getting really good at evolving themselves. So
[01:18:50] themselves. So certain people may not want to light a
[01:18:52] certain people may not want to light a match in a dark place and say, "No, you
[01:18:54] match in a dark place and say, "No, you know what? I'm never going to forgive
[01:18:56] know what? I'm never going to forgive that person.
[01:18:57] that person. I'm never going to You know, I'm never
[01:18:59] I'm never going to You know, I'm never going to hate stop hating that person."
[01:19:02] going to hate stop hating that person." Well,
[01:19:03] Well, >> [laughter]
[01:19:04] >> [laughter] >> is the hate that you're feeling is like
[01:19:06] >> is the hate that you're feeling is like is like drinking poison and hoping the
[01:19:08] is like drinking poison and hoping the other person's going to have an effect,
[01:19:10] other person's going to have an effect, right?
[01:19:11] right? The only person that that is affecting
[01:19:13] The only person that that is affecting is you. Justified or not. The hormones
[01:19:16] is you. Justified or not. The hormones of stress down regulate genes and create
[01:19:18] of stress down regulate genes and create disease. So the person has to say,
[01:19:21] disease. So the person has to say, "Oh my god, like I got to change. I got
[01:19:23] "Oh my god, like I got to change. I got to forgive." And by the way, if you if
[01:19:26] to forgive." And by the way, if you if you practice being in your heart, it's
[01:19:28] you practice being in your heart, it's not hard to forgive. I mean, when you're
[01:19:30] not hard to forgive. I mean, when you're feeling that feeling
[01:19:32] feeling that feeling it's it's very easy to forgive. It's not
[01:19:34] it's it's very easy to forgive. It's not like you're really trying to forgive the
[01:19:36] like you're really trying to forgive the person. You're feeling so good. You're
[01:19:38] person. You're feeling so good. You're like, "You're good. I'm good. Let's go.
[01:19:40] like, "You're good. I'm good. Let's go. Like I'm free." That's
[01:19:43] Like I'm free." That's that's what the side effect of the work
[01:19:45] that's what the side effect of the work is when a person's really looking. So
[01:19:48] is when a person's really looking. So I think sometimes it's a
[01:19:50] I think sometimes it's a person defaults automatically and they
[01:19:53] person defaults automatically and they go unconscious. We all do it.
[01:19:55] go unconscious. We all do it. I think that sometimes people um
[01:19:58] I think that sometimes people um they forget why they're doing it or what
[01:20:00] they forget why they're doing it or what they're doing is just become another
[01:20:01] they're doing is just become another routine. They don't really they haven't
[01:20:03] routine. They don't really they haven't really thought it through and really
[01:20:05] really thought it through and really said, "Okay, I'm doing this for this
[01:20:06] said, "Okay, I'm doing this for this intention."
[01:20:08] intention." I think people sometimes give up on
[01:20:09] I think people sometimes give up on themselves and that becomes a habit.
[01:20:12] themselves and that becomes a habit. They don't really get into it. They
[01:20:14] They don't really get into it. They really don't really invest themselves
[01:20:16] really don't really invest themselves like cuz they don't believe that they on
[01:20:18] like cuz they don't believe that they on a on a deep level that they can change.
[01:20:21] a on a deep level that they can change. Um so there's a lot of factors. Um some
[01:20:23] Um so there's a lot of factors. Um some people would only do a a short little
[01:20:26] people would only do a a short little meditation and think their life is going
[01:20:28] meditation and think their life is going to like blow up and you know, they're
[01:20:30] to like blow up and you know, they're they're to be abundant tomorrow, it's
[01:20:31] they're to be abundant tomorrow, it's unrealistic, right? Um
[01:20:35] unrealistic, right? Um if a person wants to be, let's just pick
[01:20:37] if a person wants to be, let's just pick healthy or abundant, right? And this is
[01:20:39] healthy or abundant, right? And this is their dream of being healthy and or
[01:20:41] their dream of being healthy and or abundant, and this is the personality
[01:20:44] abundant, and this is the personality who's in lack or feeling unhealthy or is
[01:20:47] who's in lack or feeling unhealthy or is unhealthy.
[01:20:48] unhealthy. You got to agree with me, in order for
[01:20:50] You got to agree with me, in order for this person this person to arrive here,
[01:20:53] this person this person to arrive here, they got to make a lot of different
[01:20:54] they got to make a lot of different choices and do a lot of different things
[01:20:56] choices and do a lot of different things and create a whole lot of new
[01:20:57] and create a whole lot of new experiences to finally when they become
[01:20:59] experiences to finally when they become this person,
[01:21:01] this person, they're going to change along the way,
[01:21:02] they're going to change along the way, right? So, some people really may not be
[01:21:05] right? So, some people really may not be honest with themselves
[01:21:08] honest with themselves to see if they're really changing,
[01:21:09] to see if they're really changing, right? They
[01:21:11] right? They You know when you're really changing
[01:21:12] You know when you're really changing because you stop talking about it,
[01:21:14] because you stop talking about it, right? That's when you know you're
[01:21:14] right? That's when you know you're getting close.
[01:21:16] getting close. But, 99% of the people they don't
[01:21:18] But, 99% of the people they don't change. That's true. A lot of people a
[01:21:20] change. That's true. A lot of people a lot of people, you know,
[01:21:22] lot of people, you know, uh
[01:21:23] uh default automatically back to the to the
[01:21:26] default automatically back to the to the same personality.
[01:21:27] same personality. Um but, if you give them the if you give
[01:21:28] Um but, if you give them the if you give them this the information uh and uh they
[01:21:33] them this the information uh and uh they understand that really well and they're
[01:21:34] understand that really well and they're practicing,
[01:21:35] practicing, that's what I think I'm the most proud
[01:21:37] that's what I think I'm the most proud of when it comes to our community. I
[01:21:39] of when it comes to our community. I think I'm the most proud of our
[01:21:40] think I'm the most proud of our community because we're doers. Like,
[01:21:42] community because we're doers. Like, there's there's too many stories of
[01:21:43] there's there's too many stories of transformation that we have now where
[01:21:45] transformation that we have now where the person has changed their life in
[01:21:47] the person has changed their life in dramatic ways. I hear it all the time.
[01:21:50] dramatic ways. I hear it all the time. And they prove to themselves that
[01:21:52] And they prove to themselves that they're the creator of their life. It's
[01:21:54] they're the creator of their life. It's That's what I want for them.
[01:21:56] That's what I want for them. So, if you don't know how to change
[01:21:59] So, if you don't know how to change and you don't know what change is,
[01:22:02] and you don't know what change is, then more than likely you're going to
[01:22:03] then more than likely you're going to stay the same person. But, if we
[01:22:05] stay the same person. But, if we demystify it and you understand what
[01:22:07] demystify it and you understand what change is, and you understand all those
[01:22:10] change is, and you understand all those things that you have that are, you know,
[01:22:12] things that you have that are, you know, subconsciously programmed, I guarantee
[01:22:15] subconsciously programmed, I guarantee you that if you truly are sincere about
[01:22:18] you that if you truly are sincere about it, um
[01:22:19] it, um you won't go you you won't want to go
[01:22:21] you won't go you you won't want to go back because you're you're you're
[01:22:22] back because you're you're you're feeling very differently. So, I just
[01:22:24] feeling very differently. So, I just think, you know,
[01:22:25] think, you know, um many people just don't know how they
[01:22:27] um many people just don't know how they may They may know what they want to
[01:22:28] may They may know what they want to change or why they want to change. They
[01:22:30] change or why they want to change. They just don't know how to change.
[01:22:32] just don't know how to change. So, explain me differences, okay? Like
[01:22:35] So, explain me differences, okay? Like according to science, like what's going
[01:22:37] according to science, like what's going on. So, I'm going to give you like two
[01:22:38] on. So, I'm going to give you like two or three
[01:22:40] or three situation thoughts, like just simple
[01:22:43] situation thoughts, like just simple things, like what's happening?
[01:22:44] >> [snorts]
[01:22:44] >> [snorts] >> Let's say there's somebody who is
[01:22:48] >> Let's say there's somebody who is 99% of the world, which is people normal
[01:22:51] 99% of the world, which is people normal people.
[01:22:53] people. They get up. They think about
[01:22:56] They get up. They think about a deadline and they're thinking about,
[01:22:57] a deadline and they're thinking about, "Okay, if I don't do this, then I'm
[01:22:58] "Okay, if I don't do this, then I'm going to lose this opportunity. I'm
[01:23:00] going to lose this opportunity. I'm going to do this and that." And then
[01:23:01] going to do this and that." And then emotionally charged about it. They're
[01:23:02] emotionally charged about it. They're operating out of fear.
[01:23:04] operating out of fear. versus somebody who is operating out of
[01:23:07] versus somebody who is operating out of gratefulness and be like, "There's an
[01:23:09] gratefulness and be like, "There's an opportunity. I want to do it. And I'll
[01:23:11] opportunity. I want to do it. And I'll do it because there's so much abundance
[01:23:12] do it because there's so much abundance and I want to create my new reality and
[01:23:14] and I want to create my new reality and all the things that you're teaching."
[01:23:16] all the things that you're teaching." What happens when somebody feels like
[01:23:20] What happens when somebody feels like deadline, deadline, deadline, I'm going
[01:23:22] deadline, deadline, deadline, I'm going to get finished versus somebody who
[01:23:23] to get finished versus somebody who feels abundance and gratefulness and
[01:23:25] feels abundance and gratefulness and great future.
[01:23:26] great future. In their body, in their mind, in their
[01:23:28] In their body, in their mind, in their brain, what is the difference?
[01:23:30] brain, what is the difference? >> Yeah, well, it's really simple. It's
[01:23:31] >> Yeah, well, it's really simple. It's back to that same principle.
[01:23:33] back to that same principle. The person who sees it
[01:23:35] The person who sees it as a deadline
[01:23:37] as a deadline is perceiving reality through the lens
[01:23:39] is perceiving reality through the lens of their past, through the emotion that
[01:23:42] of their past, through the emotion that they're experiencing. And in the person
[01:23:44] they're experiencing. And in the person who's seeing the possibility in a state
[01:23:47] who's seeing the possibility in a state of gratitude is feeling the emotion of
[01:23:50] of gratitude is feeling the emotion of the event before it's happened. But
[01:23:52] the event before it's happened. But what's happening in the brain? Like
[01:23:53] what's happening in the brain? Like what's happening in the body if I think
[01:23:55] what's happening in the body if I think and operate from past?
[01:23:57] and operate from past? Ah, well, you're So, so the person who's
[01:23:59] Ah, well, you're So, so the person who's operating from uh from the past is
[01:24:02] operating from uh from the past is usually trying to predict the future
[01:24:04] usually trying to predict the future based on the past and they're working
[01:24:06] based on the past and they're working pretty much off a part of the brain
[01:24:08] pretty much off a part of the brain called the default mode network.
[01:24:10] called the default mode network. Default mode network is the brain's
[01:24:12] Default mode network is the brain's predictor. Like you say, "Okay, I've had
[01:24:14] predictor. Like you say, "Okay, I've had these experiences. I've done these
[01:24:16] these experiences. I've done these things. It's never going to change
[01:24:18] things. It's never going to change because I know it's going to be be like
[01:24:20] because I know it's going to be be like my past." And you don't do that
[01:24:22] my past." And you don't do that consciously. You kind of do that
[01:24:24] consciously. You kind of do that unconsciously because the default mode
[01:24:26] unconsciously because the default mode network is always trying to lay down a
[01:24:28] network is always trying to lay down a known, try to predict the next moment.
[01:24:31] known, try to predict the next moment. And it's just like if I tossed you a
[01:24:32] And it's just like if I tossed you a ball,
[01:24:34] ball, the default mode network would be like
[01:24:35] the default mode network would be like your body just, you know, predicting
[01:24:37] your body just, you know, predicting where the ball is going to go and it
[01:24:38] where the ball is going to go and it just kind of grabs it. It's that
[01:24:40] just kind of grabs it. It's that automatic, right? So, the brain is
[01:24:42] automatic, right? So, the brain is naturally trying to predict the future
[01:24:43] naturally trying to predict the future based on the past.
[01:24:45] based on the past. The challenge with that is it consumes
[01:24:48] The challenge with that is it consumes an enormous amount of energy in the
[01:24:50] an enormous amount of energy in the brain. Like
[01:24:52] brain. Like almost all the energy in the brain. It
[01:24:53] almost all the energy in the brain. It takes a lot to shut that thing off.
[01:24:56] takes a lot to shut that thing off. Our data shows that in 7 days you can
[01:24:59] Our data shows that in 7 days you can shut that part of the brain off. And if
[01:25:01] shut that part of the brain off. And if you're not predicting the future,
[01:25:04] you're not predicting the future, you're in the present moment.
[01:25:06] you're in the present moment. >> [snorts]
[01:25:06] >> [snorts] >> And when you're in the present moment,
[01:25:08] >> And when you're in the present moment, you uh you you you are way more
[01:25:10] you uh you you you are way more creative, you're way more poised, you're
[01:25:13] creative, you're way more poised, you're way more spontaneous, the brain is more
[01:25:15] way more spontaneous, the brain is more integrated.
[01:25:16] integrated. And what we discovered is those people
[01:25:18] And what we discovered is those people that do it, and it's the majority of the
[01:25:20] that do it, and it's the majority of the people,
[01:25:21] people, when they open their eyes after the
[01:25:23] when they open their eyes after the meditation's over, with their eyes open,
[01:25:26] meditation's over, with their eyes open, that that default mode network is still
[01:25:28] that that default mode network is still shut off in their brain. So, they're
[01:25:29] shut off in their brain. So, they're still present as if they're meditating,
[01:25:31] still present as if they're meditating, but they're not in a, you know, they're
[01:25:32] but they're not in a, you know, they're not meditating with their eyes closed.
[01:25:35] not meditating with their eyes closed. That place what is when the brain really
[01:25:38] That place what is when the brain really begins to reboot itself. And that's when
[01:25:39] begins to reboot itself. And that's when you get creative ideas, that's when you
[01:25:42] you get creative ideas, that's when you trust yourself, uh that's when you're um
[01:25:45] trust yourself, uh that's when you're um you're excited and, you know,
[01:25:46] you're excited and, you know, enthusiastic and full of energy about
[01:25:49] enthusiastic and full of energy about what you're seeing your your what you're
[01:25:51] what you're seeing your your what you're seeing makes sense to you. It, you know,
[01:25:52] seeing makes sense to you. It, you know, you you believe in it on some level.
[01:25:55] you you believe in it on some level. Uh the default mode network is always
[01:25:57] Uh the default mode network is always going to try to predict it based on what
[01:25:59] going to try to predict it based on what it knows from the past. And you you you
[01:26:01] it knows from the past. And you you you can't create anything new that way.
[01:26:05] You you've said in your research that
[01:26:09] You you've said in your research that in your practices and in your work,
[01:26:12] in your practices and in your work, that before you go to sleep, that time
[01:26:13] that before you go to sleep, that time is really important. And if you practice
[01:26:16] is really important. And if you practice gratitude 10 minutes a day, in just
[01:26:19] gratitude 10 minutes a day, in just about 4 days of our immunity system get
[01:26:21] about 4 days of our immunity system get 50% better. Yeah. Is that it? So then
[01:26:25] 50% better. Yeah. Is that it? So then that is one case. And then a lot of
[01:26:27] that is one case. And then a lot of people just use Instagram for 10 minutes
[01:26:29] people just use Instagram for 10 minutes by the end of the day, right?
[01:26:31] by the end of the day, right? What's
[01:26:32] What's if I grat- if I practice gratitude
[01:26:35] if I grat- if I practice gratitude before bed for 10 minutes versus I use
[01:26:38] before bed for 10 minutes versus I use my Instagram for 10 minutes?
[01:26:40] my Instagram for 10 minutes? What's going to be the difference?
[01:26:41] What's going to be the difference? >> Some people can't think for themselves
[01:26:44] >> Some people can't think for themselves because they're having something think
[01:26:45] because they're having something think for them, right? Those images and the
[01:26:47] for them, right? Those images and the stimulation is causing them to really
[01:26:50] stimulation is causing them to really expose their brain to information
[01:26:53] expose their brain to information um
[01:26:54] um that is causing them to think and feel a
[01:26:56] that is causing them to think and feel a certain way.
[01:26:57] certain way. What I'm saying is think and feel on
[01:26:59] What I'm saying is think and feel on your own, right? And that's the most
[01:27:01] your own, right? And that's the most important thing or think for yourself.
[01:27:03] important thing or think for yourself. So so people who lose the imagination or
[01:27:07] So so people who lose the imagination or the skill of dreaming, uh they're just
[01:27:10] the skill of dreaming, uh they're just relying on something to think for them,
[01:27:12] relying on something to think for them, right? That's why nature's so great. Go
[01:27:14] right? That's why nature's so great. Go out and you know, spend 3 days somewhere
[01:27:16] out and you know, spend 3 days somewhere in nature. First day your brain will be
[01:27:18] in nature. First day your brain will be all over the place. Second day it'll
[01:27:20] all over the place. Second day it'll kind of calm down. By the third day
[01:27:21] kind of calm down. By the third day you're like, "Woo, I'm thinking clearly
[01:27:23] you're like, "Woo, I'm thinking clearly again." because if you don't have your
[01:27:24] again." because if you don't have your device and you're looking at the expanse
[01:27:26] device and you're looking at the expanse of the sky or mountains or the sea, and
[01:27:29] of the sky or mountains or the sea, and you're opening your awareness, your
[01:27:31] you're opening your awareness, your brain gets very organized, right? So
[01:27:34] brain gets very organized, right? So a person who's understands that when
[01:27:36] a person who's understands that when they go to bed at night
[01:27:38] they go to bed at night uh their serotonin levels change to
[01:27:41] uh their serotonin levels change to melatonin, and when you're in serotonin
[01:27:44] melatonin, and when you're in serotonin you're in beta, when you're in melatonin
[01:27:46] you're in beta, when you're in melatonin you start dropping into alpha, theta,
[01:27:48] you start dropping into alpha, theta, and delta, and that's when the door
[01:27:49] and delta, and that's when the door opens. So what do you want to drop in
[01:27:52] opens. So what do you want to drop in there? Do you want to do something Do
[01:27:54] there? Do you want to do something Do you want to drop anything in there
[01:27:55] you want to drop anything in there that's going to cause you to be more
[01:27:57] that's going to cause you to be more limited or distract you or you know,
[01:28:00] limited or distract you or you know, you know, cause you to think and feel
[01:28:02] you know, cause you to think and feel later on the next day a certain way? Or
[01:28:04] later on the next day a certain way? Or do you say by volition
[01:28:07] do you say by volition I'm going to teach my body emotionally
[01:28:09] I'm going to teach my body emotionally what my future feels like. I'm going to
[01:28:11] what my future feels like. I'm going to keep bringing up this feeling of
[01:28:12] keep bringing up this feeling of gratitude because I know that gratitude
[01:28:14] gratitude because I know that gratitude strengthens my immune system by 50%
[01:28:18] strengthens my immune system by 50% and if I'm having a problem with a
[01:28:19] and if I'm having a problem with a chronic health condition or you know,
[01:28:22] chronic health condition or you know, immune mediated condition, this would be
[01:28:24] immune mediated condition, this would be loving to me. So, I'm going to go for 10
[01:28:27] loving to me. So, I'm going to go for 10 or 15 minutes just feeling gratitude or
[01:28:29] or 15 minutes just feeling gratitude or thinking about all the things I'm
[01:28:30] thinking about all the things I'm grateful for and then I'm going to think
[01:28:32] grateful for and then I'm going to think about all the things I'll be grateful
[01:28:34] about all the things I'll be grateful for when they happen. I'm just going to
[01:28:36] for when they happen. I'm just going to let myself go. Just I'm just going to
[01:28:38] let myself go. Just I'm just going to play. I'm just going to let myself go.
[01:28:40] play. I'm just going to let myself go. I promise you though, person who does
[01:28:42] I promise you though, person who does that after a period of time
[01:28:44] that after a period of time is going to feel very differently than
[01:28:46] is going to feel very differently than when they spend 10 minutes watching
[01:28:48] when they spend 10 minutes watching Instagram, right?
[01:28:49] Instagram, right? Not not not that I have an opinion on
[01:28:51] Not not not that I have an opinion on it. I just know that it's
[01:28:52] it. I just know that it's it's very seductive and and it could
[01:28:56] it's very seductive and and it could it could cause people to become very
[01:28:57] it could cause people to become very dependent on it.
[01:29:00] dependent on it. That's again, like if you understand the
[01:29:02] That's again, like if you understand the science between slowing your brain waves
[01:29:04] science between slowing your brain waves down and what you want to program in
[01:29:06] down and what you want to program in there, if you're serious about a better
[01:29:08] there, if you're serious about a better life,
[01:29:09] life, um you would run through a list of
[01:29:11] um you would run through a list of things that were were really important
[01:29:13] things that were were really important to you and remember to think that way,
[01:29:15] to you and remember to think that way, remember to feel that way, remember to
[01:29:17] remember to feel that way, remember to behave that way the next day or even
[01:29:19] behave that way the next day or even better, how did I do today?
[01:29:21] better, how did I do today? How was my day? When did I react? When
[01:29:23] How was my day? When did I react? When did I lose my patience? When did I get
[01:29:26] did I lose my patience? When did I get frustrated?
[01:29:27] frustrated? When did I
[01:29:28] When did I move out of balance?
[01:29:30] move out of balance? Did I blame the person or circumstance?
[01:29:32] Did I blame the person or circumstance? Was I greater than that? Okay, another
[01:29:34] Was I greater than that? Okay, another day,
[01:29:35] day, another lifetime,
[01:29:37] another lifetime, another chance, my mother used to say,
[01:29:39] another chance, my mother used to say, new day, right?
[01:29:41] new day, right? Another day, how am I going to be if I
[01:29:43] Another day, how am I going to be if I have the same circumstance in my life,
[01:29:44] have the same circumstance in my life, right? What's a better way for for Raj
[01:29:47] right? What's a better way for for Raj to be or Joe to be the next day? Let me
[01:29:49] to be or Joe to be the next day? Let me remind myself that I could be that way
[01:29:50] remind myself that I could be that way tomorrow. I promise you, if you're
[01:29:52] tomorrow. I promise you, if you're sincere just for two two three weeks of
[01:29:55] sincere just for two two three weeks of doing that, you'll naturally surprise
[01:29:58] doing that, you'll naturally surprise yourself. Like, "Wow, I really didn't
[01:30:00] yourself. Like, "Wow, I really didn't react to that person. Wow, I noticed
[01:30:03] react to that person. Wow, I noticed that I was way more calm. I noticed that
[01:30:05] that I was way more calm. I noticed that the person that normally pushes my
[01:30:06] the person that normally pushes my buttons,
[01:30:08] buttons, I didn't feel that and that's one of the
[01:30:09] I didn't feel that and that's one of the crazy things that happens
[01:30:11] crazy things that happens from our community, you know, they
[01:30:13] from our community, you know, they return back into their life. One of the
[01:30:14] return back into their life. One of the common things people say is
[01:30:16] common things people say is I return back into my life and people
[01:30:18] I return back into my life and people say, "What happened to you? Like you
[01:30:20] say, "What happened to you? Like you What did What did What did you do? Like
[01:30:21] What did What did What did you do? Like are you on a new drug? Are you taking a
[01:30:23] are you on a new drug? Are you taking a new medication? Did you get a face
[01:30:25] new medication? Did you get a face thing? What you know, what do you got a
[01:30:26] thing? What you know, what do you got a secret you're not telling me?" You look
[01:30:28] secret you're not telling me?" You look different, right? Because they are
[01:30:30] different, right? Because they are different, right?
[01:30:32] different, right? That's the That's the joy of change,
[01:30:35] That's the That's the joy of change, right? So
[01:30:36] right? So So the evening and the morning are two
[01:30:38] So the evening and the morning are two times in the day where your the door
[01:30:41] times in the day where your the door opens up, you know, your brain waves go
[01:30:43] opens up, you know, your brain waves go from beta to alpha to theta to delta in
[01:30:45] from beta to alpha to theta to delta in the evening. When you wake up in the
[01:30:47] the evening. When you wake up in the morning, you know, you go from delta to
[01:30:49] morning, you know, you go from delta to theta to alpha to beta. So there's two
[01:30:51] theta to alpha to beta. So there's two times where the door between the
[01:30:53] times where the door between the conscious mind and subconscious mind
[01:30:55] conscious mind and subconscious mind opens.
[01:30:56] opens. And people I mean the people in my life
[01:30:58] And people I mean the people in my life that that do this, they they they they
[01:31:01] that that do this, they they they they take their time before they go to bed,
[01:31:03] take their time before they go to bed, they write things down that are
[01:31:05] they write things down that are important to them, things they want to
[01:31:07] important to them, things they want to change. They don't want to watch TV or
[01:31:10] change. They don't want to watch TV or get on their thing their their device.
[01:31:12] get on their thing their their device. They really want to invest in
[01:31:13] They really want to invest in themselves, right? And they're serious
[01:31:16] themselves, right? And they're serious about it and
[01:31:17] about it and as a side effect
[01:31:19] as a side effect the opportunities, the coincidences, the
[01:31:21] the opportunities, the coincidences, the synchronicities, the serendipities
[01:31:24] synchronicities, the serendipities somehow are coming to them. It's not
[01:31:26] somehow are coming to them. It's not like they're going and having to get it.
[01:31:28] like they're going and having to get it. Like somehow it's kind of coming to
[01:31:30] Like somehow it's kind of coming to them. That's all you need. That's all
[01:31:32] them. That's all you need. That's all you need to believe that you're the
[01:31:34] you need to believe that you're the creator of your life, right? And And
[01:31:37] creator of your life, right? And And Why is that important? Because you're
[01:31:39] Why is that important? Because you're going to want to do it again. You're
[01:31:40] going to want to do it again. You're going to be like and that's why our
[01:31:42] going to be like and that's why our community does the work because they
[01:31:44] community does the work because they don't want the magic to end. They don't
[01:31:46] don't want the magic to end. They don't want to jinx it. They're like it's too
[01:31:47] want to jinx it. They're like it's too good.
[01:31:49] good. I'm I'm not going to miss my meditation
[01:31:50] I'm I'm not going to miss my meditation because too many wonderful things are
[01:31:52] because too many wonderful things are happening in my life that those
[01:31:55] happening in my life that those synchronicities, those opportunities are
[01:31:57] synchronicities, those opportunities are telling you are you are in fact the
[01:31:59] telling you are you are in fact the creator of your life. That's the
[01:32:01] creator of your life. That's the That's the side effect. See, you teach
[01:32:04] That's the side effect. See, you teach all of these in your retreats, right?
[01:32:06] all of these in your retreats, right? And people come off as somebody and they
[01:32:09] And people come off as somebody and they go as someone else and they change. But,
[01:32:13] go as someone else and they change. But, let's talk about a majority of people
[01:32:15] let's talk about a majority of people who are watching this.
[01:32:17] who are watching this. They just can't leave everything and fly
[01:32:20] They just can't leave everything and fly off to a retreat, right? They
[01:32:22] off to a retreat, right? They They have
[01:32:23] They have They have the family responsibilities.
[01:32:24] They have the family responsibilities. They have a very tough job. They're
[01:32:26] They have a very tough job. They're trying to make their ends meet. Toxic
[01:32:28] trying to make their ends meet. Toxic relationships all around. EMIs to pay.
[01:32:31] relationships all around. EMIs to pay. They're financially probably struggling.
[01:32:34] They're financially probably struggling. So, they can't spend like thousands of
[01:32:36] So, they can't spend like thousands of dollars to just fly out to another
[01:32:38] dollars to just fly out to another country and spend on a retreat.
[01:32:42] country and spend on a retreat. So, somebody who can't do that,
[01:32:44] So, somebody who can't do that, what should they do right now?
[01:32:46] what should they do right now? Or what should they start doing from
[01:32:48] Or what should they start doing from tomorrow? They have no money, just 20
[01:32:50] tomorrow? They have no money, just 20 minutes in a day because the rest of the
[01:32:51] minutes in a day because the rest of the day is very packed. So,
[01:32:53] day is very packed. So, what can they do so that they start
[01:32:55] what can they do so that they start seeing some of the change of your work?
[01:32:57] seeing some of the change of your work? Again, you know, the the first step is
[01:32:59] Again, you know, the the first step is information. Information is the catalyst
[01:33:03] information. Information is the catalyst to transformation. Uh so, I don't know
[01:33:05] to transformation. Uh so, I don't know if you have a book, one of my books to
[01:33:07] if you have a book, one of my books to read, or uh you know, a podcast, or
[01:33:11] read, or uh you know, a podcast, or uh study the um an online course that we
[01:33:14] uh study the um an online course that we have, you know, whether it's the formula
[01:33:15] have, you know, whether it's the formula or our progressive workshops or
[01:33:18] or our progressive workshops or our intensive workshop. Um you know,
[01:33:20] our intensive workshop. Um you know, take the time and if you only have 20
[01:33:22] take the time and if you only have 20 minutes or 30 minutes, sit down for 20
[01:33:25] minutes or 30 minutes, sit down for 20 or 30 minutes and learn the information
[01:33:27] or 30 minutes and learn the information and and and you know, start somewhere.
[01:33:30] and and and you know, start somewhere. But, um I think just knowledge really is
[01:33:32] But, um I think just knowledge really is the most important thing and and uh uh
[01:33:36] the most important thing and and uh uh it's the it's the basis. Uh so, so make
[01:33:38] it's the it's the basis. Uh so, so make the time to learn. Like, if we when we
[01:33:40] the time to learn. Like, if we when we stop learning and start feeling um we're
[01:33:43] stop learning and start feeling um we're headed for a genetic destiny, right? So,
[01:33:45] headed for a genetic destiny, right? So, it's it's important for us to go, "Okay,
[01:33:47] it's it's important for us to go, "Okay, this makes sense to me." And it may not
[01:33:49] this makes sense to me." And it may not make sense to everybody, but if it
[01:33:51] make sense to everybody, but if it resonates with a person,
[01:33:53] resonates with a person, uh
[01:33:54] uh and other people are doing it,
[01:33:56] and other people are doing it, why can't I do it? Right? That's the the
[01:33:59] why can't I do it? Right? That's the the main question. So, I think, you know,
[01:34:01] main question. So, I think, you know, exposing yourself to the information and
[01:34:03] exposing yourself to the information and not in and taking the time to invest a
[01:34:05] not in and taking the time to invest a little bit of your energy into it and
[01:34:07] little bit of your energy into it and then practice it. And and the practice
[01:34:10] then practice it. And and the practice is the fun part, but don't do the
[01:34:11] is the fun part, but don't do the practice without understanding why
[01:34:13] practice without understanding why you're doing it or what you're doing.
[01:34:15] you're doing it or what you're doing. See, a lot of people will watch this,
[01:34:17] See, a lot of people will watch this, read a book, and then after that,
[01:34:19] read a book, and then after that, they'll start doing certain things.
[01:34:22] they'll start doing certain things. How do you know the difference between
[01:34:25] How do you know the difference between whether you are just
[01:34:27] whether you are just you're actually changing
[01:34:29] you're actually changing or you are
[01:34:32] or you are just doing it for the sake of doing it?
[01:34:34] just doing it for the sake of doing it? And you're you're just feeling something
[01:34:36] And you're you're just feeling something or maybe now because it's also cool to
[01:34:38] or maybe now because it's also cool to do all of these things, be spiritual of
[01:34:40] do all of these things, be spiritual of some sort, and do meditation. So, maybe
[01:34:43] some sort, and do meditation. So, maybe somebody's just doing it for the
[01:34:44] somebody's just doing it for the coolness of it because I I know so many
[01:34:46] coolness of it because I I know so many people who do it for this. The number
[01:34:47] people who do it for this. The number one thing I we discovered is people feel
[01:34:50] one thing I we discovered is people feel differently. And they say, "Wow, I just
[01:34:52] differently. And they say, "Wow, I just don't feel like that person. I'm less
[01:34:55] don't feel like that person. I'm less stressed. I'm more present.
[01:34:57] stressed. I'm more present. Uh my rash is gone away. My pain is gone
[01:34:59] Uh my rash is gone away. My pain is gone away. Uh I'm feeling differently. Uh you
[01:35:02] away. Uh I'm feeling differently. Uh you know, that's the first thing."
[01:35:05] know, that's the first thing." Um they see people differently. Uh
[01:35:08] Um they see people differently. Uh they're, you know, less reactionary.
[01:35:11] they're, you know, less reactionary. Uh I think that's the first kind of
[01:35:14] Uh I think that's the first kind of signal that we get.
[01:35:16] signal that we get. Uh then, of course, then the next one is
[01:35:18] Uh then, of course, then the next one is always seeing changes in their life.
[01:35:21] always seeing changes in their life. Like all of a sudden, they start getting
[01:35:22] Like all of a sudden, they start getting breadcrumbs from the divine, you know?
[01:35:24] breadcrumbs from the divine, you know? You know, "Oh my god, I I got this offer
[01:35:27] You know, "Oh my god, I I got this offer or I got this opportunity. I I I ran
[01:35:29] or I got this opportunity. I I I ran into this person and then that led to
[01:35:31] into this person and then that led to this and um
[01:35:33] this and um I I know on some level that I I took the
[01:35:35] I I know on some level that I I took the time to create this, you know? So,
[01:35:37] time to create this, you know? So, when you start getting feedback in your
[01:35:39] when you start getting feedback in your life,
[01:35:40] life, uh that's the important element. I mean,
[01:35:43] uh that's the important element. I mean, I love synchronicities in my life. I do
[01:35:46] I love synchronicities in my life. I do the work because I I I I do them for the
[01:35:50] the work because I I I I do them for the synchronicities, for the opportunities,
[01:35:52] synchronicities, for the opportunities, for the open moments where, you know,
[01:35:55] for the open moments where, you know, something unknown drops in your lap.
[01:35:57] something unknown drops in your lap. That to me,
[01:35:58] That to me, uh that's the exciting part about it.
[01:36:00] uh that's the exciting part about it. So, so I think feedback from our
[01:36:02] So, so I think feedback from our environment usually is the second cue. I
[01:36:05] environment usually is the second cue. I think the third one for for people in
[01:36:08] think the third one for for people in our community is that transcendental
[01:36:09] our community is that transcendental moment where they have a very
[01:36:11] moment where they have a very transcendental, mystical experience that
[01:36:14] transcendental, mystical experience that changes them forever, where they just
[01:36:15] changes them forever, where they just go, "Oh my god, I saw beyond the veil.
[01:36:18] go, "Oh my god, I saw beyond the veil. Like, this is not it. This is definitely
[01:36:20] Like, this is not it. This is definitely not it." And those people, uh their life
[01:36:23] not it." And those people, uh their life changes dramatically after that moment.
[01:36:25] changes dramatically after that moment. And we see, um many times after that
[01:36:28] And we see, um many times after that transcendental moment, uh there's a
[01:36:30] transcendental moment, uh there's a biological upgrade that goes on in that
[01:36:32] biological upgrade that goes on in that person's body like instantaneously,
[01:36:34] person's body like instantaneously, instantaneously. Yeah.
[01:36:35] instantaneously. Yeah. >> See, I know my reality.
[01:36:38] >> See, I know my reality. And I'm here sitting with you. I'm not
[01:36:41] And I'm here sitting with you. I'm not the version who I want to be. I'm not
[01:36:44] the version who I want to be. I'm not living my dream life. I am
[01:36:47] living my dream life. I am and so many people like me, they must be
[01:36:50] and so many people like me, they must be thinking about some
[01:36:53] thinking about some some unrealistic version of themself
[01:36:55] some unrealistic version of themself that they want to become.
[01:36:57] that they want to become. But they know their reality. Like, how
[01:36:59] But they know their reality. Like, how do they
[01:37:01] do they how do they think and create of that
[01:37:03] how do they think and create of that future which they can't even see? That
[01:37:05] future which they can't even see? That seems so far-fetched. How do I convince
[01:37:07] seems so far-fetched. How do I convince myself that
[01:37:09] myself that I'm going to be that person
[01:37:12] I'm going to be that person who is who's living a dream life.
[01:37:16] who is who's living a dream life. Because I know my reality and nothing
[01:37:17] Because I know my reality and nothing seems to be working right now.
[01:37:20] seems to be working right now. Well, you have one of two choices, to
[01:37:22] Well, you have one of two choices, to disbelieve or to believe. That's really
[01:37:24] disbelieve or to believe. That's really it. That's it. If you choose to be a
[01:37:26] it. That's it. If you choose to be a chronic disbeliever, then you'll find
[01:37:29] chronic disbeliever, then you'll find reasons reasons in your life to reaffirm
[01:37:32] reasons reasons in your life to reaffirm that disbelief. Uh a person may say, "I
[01:37:34] that disbelief. Uh a person may say, "I want to be in a loving relationship."
[01:37:37] want to be in a loving relationship." But really they they really want to
[01:37:39] But really they they really want to sabotage their life in some way, right?
[01:37:42] sabotage their life in some way, right? The person who believes in a possibility
[01:37:45] The person who believes in a possibility has to believe in themselves. And and
[01:37:48] has to believe in themselves. And and when you believe in yourself you believe
[01:37:50] when you believe in yourself you believe in possibility you can't have one
[01:37:51] in possibility you can't have one without the other other.
[01:37:53] without the other other. The challenge is that your belief in
[01:37:55] The challenge is that your belief in yourself must be earned. Nobody's going
[01:37:58] yourself must be earned. Nobody's going to do that for you and that's what we
[01:37:59] to do that for you and that's what we discovered.
[01:38:01] discovered. The person
[01:38:02] The person who heals from a chronic health
[01:38:03] who heals from a chronic health condition again I can use these as
[01:38:05] condition again I can use these as example cuz we have thousands of these.
[01:38:08] example cuz we have thousands of these. Many of them stand on the stage Raj and
[01:38:11] Many of them stand on the stage Raj and when they tell their story of
[01:38:12] when they tell their story of transformation to an audience of 2000 or
[01:38:15] transformation to an audience of 2000 or 2200 people.
[01:38:17] 2200 people. They'll say
[01:38:18] They'll say um
[01:38:19] um you know I kind of believed in this
[01:38:21] you know I kind of believed in this stuff you know I really thought it was
[01:38:23] stuff you know I really thought it was super cool. I saw this trans stories of
[01:38:25] super cool. I saw this trans stories of transformation. I heard the
[01:38:26] transformation. I heard the testimonials.
[01:38:28] testimonials. >> [sighs and gasps]
[01:38:28] >> [sighs and gasps] >> I I believed in it. I just I just didn't
[01:38:30] >> I I believed in it. I just I just didn't believe it could work for me.
[01:38:34] believe it could work for me. That is a really big moment. That is the
[01:38:36] That is a really big moment. That is the moment the person's no longer the
[01:38:38] moment the person's no longer the philosopher.
[01:38:39] philosopher. That's the person that that's the moment
[01:38:41] That's the person that that's the moment the person's
[01:38:42] the person's getting out of the bleachers and getting
[01:38:45] getting out of the bleachers and getting on the field. That's the person the
[01:38:47] on the field. That's the person the person who says I got to prove to myself
[01:38:50] person who says I got to prove to myself that this does work. Now here's the
[01:38:52] that this does work. Now here's the deal.
[01:38:55] Either you believe or you don't believe.
[01:38:57] Either you believe or you don't believe. The person who says I realized that I
[01:38:59] The person who says I realized that I believed that it worked for everybody
[01:39:01] believed that it worked for everybody else but I didn't know if it would work
[01:39:02] else but I didn't know if it would work for me. I have to prove to myself that
[01:39:04] for me. I have to prove to myself that it works for me.
[01:39:06] it works for me. The majority of those people never miss
[01:39:09] The majority of those people never miss the day
[01:39:10] the day in their meditation because if they
[01:39:12] in their meditation because if they missed the day they knew that they
[01:39:14] missed the day they knew that they weren't believing that they were the
[01:39:15] weren't believing that they were the creator of their life. Their standard
[01:39:17] creator of their life. Their standard was super high. They didn't go 50% in
[01:39:21] was super high. They didn't go 50% in 60% in I'll check to see if it worked.
[01:39:25] 60% in I'll check to see if it worked. They had their they were it was no
[01:39:27] They had their they were it was no longer about listen closely. It was no
[01:39:29] longer about listen closely. It was no longer about results in their life.
[01:39:32] longer about results in their life. It was 100% about effort.
[01:39:34] It was 100% about effort. It was all effort.
[01:39:36] It was all effort. They came up against the their their
[01:39:38] They came up against the their their their their shadow self. They came up
[01:39:40] their their shadow self. They came up against their disbelief. They came up
[01:39:42] against their disbelief. They came up against their pain, they came up against
[01:39:44] against their pain, they came up against their fear.
[01:39:46] their fear. They came up against not feeling well,
[01:39:48] They came up against not feeling well, you know, feeling sick. They come up
[01:39:49] you know, feeling sick. They come up against their self-doubt. They came up
[01:39:51] against their self-doubt. They came up with the fact that they didn't have
[01:39:52] with the fact that they didn't have enough time, but guess what?
[01:39:55] enough time, but guess what? They did their meditation anyway.
[01:39:57] They did their meditation anyway. Anyway, and they overcame their fear.
[01:39:59] Anyway, and they overcame their fear. They overcame their self-doubt. They
[01:40:01] They overcame their self-doubt. They overcame their disbelief. They overcame,
[01:40:04] overcame their disbelief. They overcame, you know,
[01:40:06] you know, uh their pain. They overcame their body.
[01:40:08] uh their pain. They overcame their body. They started surrendering to love
[01:40:10] They started surrendering to love instead of fear. And and and their
[01:40:13] instead of fear. And and and their belief in themselves was earned. It was
[01:40:16] belief in themselves was earned. It was the overcoming, showing up even when
[01:40:19] the overcoming, showing up even when they doubted. Even when they
[01:40:21] they doubted. Even when they disbelieved, they showed up anyway.
[01:40:23] disbelieved, they showed up anyway. And we just I was just looking at a
[01:40:25] And we just I was just looking at a testimonial the other day. The guy had a
[01:40:28] testimonial the other day. The guy had a uh a 9 and 1/2 in tumor on his kidneys.
[01:40:33] uh a 9 and 1/2 in tumor on his kidneys. 9 and 1/2 in.
[01:40:35] 9 and 1/2 in. I said to him,
[01:40:36] I said to him, "Did Were Were there days where you
[01:40:38] "Did Were Were there days where you didn't want to do your meditation?" He
[01:40:39] didn't want to do your meditation?" He said, "Oh, yeah, I didn't feel well a
[01:40:41] said, "Oh, yeah, I didn't feel well a lot of those days." I said, "Did you do
[01:40:43] lot of those days." I said, "Did you do it anyway?" He said, "Yep, never missed
[01:40:44] it anyway?" He said, "Yep, never missed a day." I said, "Were there days where
[01:40:46] a day." I said, "Were there days where you doubted?" He said, "Oh, yeah, my
[01:40:47] you doubted?" He said, "Oh, yeah, my family thought I was crazy." I did uh
[01:40:49] family thought I was crazy." I did uh "Did you do them anyway?" "Yep, I
[01:40:50] "Did you do them anyway?" "Yep, I overcame my doubt that day."
[01:40:52] overcame my doubt that day." And there's some people I say to them,
[01:40:54] And there's some people I say to them, "Why were you doing your meditations
[01:40:56] "Why were you doing your meditations three times a day?"
[01:40:57] three times a day?" Three times a day.
[01:40:59] Three times a day. They'll say,
[01:41:00] They'll say, "The chemo wasn't working.
[01:41:02] "The chemo wasn't working. Uh the radiation wasn't working. The
[01:41:04] Uh the radiation wasn't working. The surgeries didn't work. The drug trial
[01:41:06] surgeries didn't work. The drug trial didn't work. The vegan ketogenic the
[01:41:10] didn't work. The vegan ketogenic the intermittent fasting uh none of the
[01:41:12] intermittent fasting uh none of the diets worked. The only thing I was left
[01:41:15] diets worked. The only thing I was left with
[01:41:16] with was my belief in myself, right?
[01:41:19] was my belief in myself, right? The reason I did my meditations three
[01:41:21] The reason I did my meditations three times a day is because I started to
[01:41:23] times a day is because I started to disbelieve. I had one of two options,
[01:41:25] disbelieve. I had one of two options, die
[01:41:27] die or show up for myself.
[01:41:29] or show up for myself. And I would not get up
[01:41:32] And I would not get up from that meditation until I believed in
[01:41:34] from that meditation until I believed in my future again. And the only way as I
[01:41:36] my future again. And the only way as I said you can believe in that future is
[01:41:38] said you can believe in that future is to transform those limited emotions into
[01:41:41] to transform those limited emotions into elevated emotions.
[01:41:43] elevated emotions. The person
[01:41:44] The person has to find something in them where they
[01:41:47] has to find something in them where they could feel the emotion of gratitude and
[01:41:49] could feel the emotion of gratitude and fall in love with the idea of that that
[01:41:52] fall in love with the idea of that that that they could heal.
[01:41:53] that they could heal. And it's that thought and that feeling,
[01:41:55] And it's that thought and that feeling, that image and that emotion, that
[01:41:57] that image and that emotion, that stimulus and response that can condition
[01:41:59] stimulus and response that can condition their body
[01:42:00] their body into the emotion and the mind of their
[01:42:02] into the emotion and the mind of their future.
[01:42:04] future. And they get up and they believe more in
[01:42:06] And they get up and they believe more in their future than when they started.
[01:42:09] their future than when they started. Some people, they finish their
[01:42:10] Some people, they finish their meditation and they believe less in
[01:42:13] meditation and they believe less in their future at the end of their
[01:42:14] their future at the end of their meditation cuz they never overcame
[01:42:16] meditation cuz they never overcame themselves. And And this is This is
[01:42:19] themselves. And And this is This is where the rubber meets the road because
[01:42:22] where the rubber meets the road because they're uncompromising.
[01:42:24] they're uncompromising. Because
[01:42:25] Because they're nothing else has worked, right?
[01:42:27] they're nothing else has worked, right? So
[01:42:29] So to me, that's greatness. I'd rather sit
[01:42:32] to me, that's greatness. I'd rather sit with that person
[01:42:33] with that person and talk to that person than any famous
[01:42:35] and talk to that person than any famous person in the world. They They know the
[01:42:36] person in the world. They They know the truth. They stand on the stage.
[01:42:39] truth. They stand on the stage. They're standing in front of an
[01:42:40] They're standing in front of an audience. I'm looking at the audience.
[01:42:42] audience. I'm looking at the audience. They're telling their story.
[01:42:43] They're telling their story. And everybody's leaning in.
[01:42:46] And everybody's leaning in. Everybody's leaning in because there's
[01:42:48] Everybody's leaning in because there's the example of truth. There's a 4-minute
[01:42:49] the example of truth. There's a 4-minute mile.
[01:42:51] mile. There's someone who broke through a
[01:42:52] There's someone who broke through a certain level of consciousness or
[01:42:53] certain level of consciousness or unconsciousness and they don't look
[01:42:55] unconsciousness and they don't look vegan. They don't look particularly
[01:42:57] vegan. They don't look particularly young. They're not dressed very well.
[01:42:59] young. They're not dressed very well. They don't They're not fit. They just
[01:43:01] They don't They're not fit. They just look like a person you would pass in the
[01:43:02] look like a person you would pass in the grocery store.
[01:43:04] grocery store. But they they changed their health in
[01:43:06] But they they changed their health in some way and it's
[01:43:07] some way and it's everybody in the audience is looking at
[01:43:10] everybody in the audience is looking at them.
[01:43:11] them. And I know that some people in the
[01:43:12] And I know that some people in the audience
[01:43:14] audience are going to identify with that person.
[01:43:16] are going to identify with that person. They're going to say, "She doesn't look
[01:43:17] They're going to say, "She doesn't look particularly different than me.
[01:43:20] particularly different than me. I have the same diagnosis.
[01:43:23] I have the same diagnosis. If she could do it,
[01:43:25] If she could do it, I can do it." And that's the power of
[01:43:27] I can do it." And that's the power of community because then
[01:43:29] community because then once it's in the collective
[01:43:30] once it's in the collective consciousness and you witness it, It's
[01:43:32] consciousness and you witness it, It's no longer just theoretical. There's
[01:43:34] no longer just theoretical. There's truth standing there. There's truth on
[01:43:36] truth standing there. There's truth on the stage. They have the scans, they
[01:43:38] the stage. They have the scans, they have the blood test, tumors are gone,
[01:43:40] have the blood test, tumors are gone, everything's gone.
[01:43:42] everything's gone. >> [gasps and sighs]
[01:43:43] >> [gasps and sighs] >> It becomes very infectious. And then all
[01:43:45] >> It becomes very infectious. And then all of a sudden you start we had we had five
[01:43:48] of a sudden you start we had we had five people with Raynaud's syndrome at one
[01:43:49] people with Raynaud's syndrome at one event.
[01:43:51] event. You know, where you lose blood flow into
[01:43:53] You know, where you lose blood flow into your extremities. Five because one
[01:43:55] your extremities. Five because one person stood on the stage and told her
[01:43:56] person stood on the stage and told her story.
[01:43:58] story. Four other people by the end of that
[01:43:59] Four other people by the end of that event stood on the stage, no more
[01:44:01] event stood on the stage, no more Raynaud's. We had five people that were
[01:44:03] Raynaud's. We had five people that were in wheelchairs
[01:44:05] in wheelchairs with all kinds of reasons, you know,
[01:44:07] with all kinds of reasons, you know, spinal cord injuries, myasthenia gravis,
[01:44:09] spinal cord injuries, myasthenia gravis, uh
[01:44:10] uh uh
[01:44:11] uh uh rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, uh um
[01:44:14] uh rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, uh um ALS,
[01:44:16] ALS, head traumas.
[01:44:17] head traumas. >> [gasps]
[01:44:18] >> [gasps] >> One person stood out of the wheelchair,
[01:44:20] >> One person stood out of the wheelchair, four other people stood out. We had two
[01:44:22] four other people stood out. We had two people that were blind. I mean, imagine
[01:44:24] people that were blind. I mean, imagine that. That was a crazy one.
[01:44:27] that. That was a crazy one. Couldn't see. At the end of the event,
[01:44:29] Couldn't see. At the end of the event, one By the middle of the event, one
[01:44:31] one By the middle of the event, one person stood on the stage, by the end of
[01:44:32] person stood on the stage, by the end of the event it was two people.
[01:44:34] the event it was two people. It It's insane. That's the power.
[01:44:37] It It's insane. That's the power. That's the power that lives in every
[01:44:39] That's the power that lives in every human being. When you start seeing
[01:44:41] human being. When you start seeing possibility like that, because people
[01:44:44] possibility like that, because people only do the best with what they think is
[01:44:46] only do the best with what they think is available. If you don't know what's
[01:44:47] available. If you don't know what's available, you'll make the same choice.
[01:44:49] available, you'll make the same choice. Once you know what's possible,
[01:44:52] Once you know what's possible, you're not going to you have the
[01:44:53] you're not going to you have the nobody's so special to be excluded when
[01:44:55] nobody's so special to be excluded when you're in a community like that.
[01:44:57] you're in a community like that. And the [snorts] person's in their 70s
[01:45:01] And the [snorts] person's in their 70s or they're they're in their
[01:45:03] or they're they're in their late later years
[01:45:05] late later years and doctors are telling them you're too
[01:45:07] and doctors are telling them you're too old or
[01:45:08] old or you know,
[01:45:09] you know, you're you're just going to learn to
[01:45:10] you're you're just going to learn to live with that. Those people are like,
[01:45:12] live with that. Those people are like, "No.
[01:45:13] "No. No, I'm not going to live with this. No,
[01:45:16] No, I'm not going to live with this. No, this is not how it's going to end for
[01:45:17] this is not how it's going to end for me."
[01:45:19] me." Like, that's what it takes, right? So,
[01:45:23] Like, that's what it takes, right? So, yeah, there's there's
[01:45:24] yeah, there's there's there's too much in to say like, "Oh,
[01:45:28] there's too much in to say like, "Oh, well, you know,
[01:45:29] well, you know, uh I I just can't muster it up in me."
[01:45:32] uh I I just can't muster it up in me." Well, then
[01:45:33] Well, then what do you want? You know, what do you
[01:45:35] what do you want? You know, what do you want? If you really want it, you'll find
[01:45:37] want? If you really want it, you'll find a way, right?
[01:45:40] a way, right? >> [snorts]
[01:45:40] >> [snorts] >> A lot of this work is related to
[01:45:42] >> A lot of this work is related to controlling emotions, right? Yeah. Then
[01:45:45] controlling emotions, right? Yeah. Then We call it self-regulation.
[01:45:47] We call it self-regulation. Self-regulation. So, regulating the
[01:45:49] Self-regulation. So, regulating the emotions, but when you talk about
[01:45:51] emotions, but when you talk about controlling emotions, a lot of people
[01:45:53] controlling emotions, a lot of people feel that it's about suppressing a
[01:45:55] feel that it's about suppressing a certain emotion. So, what do people do
[01:45:58] certain emotion. So, what do people do when they when they go through this
[01:45:59] when they when they go through this process? Do they
[01:46:01] process? Do they I mean, let me make it specific. So,
[01:46:03] I mean, let me make it specific. So, somebody who has had years of anger and
[01:46:05] somebody who has had years of anger and they've suppressed it. Years of grief
[01:46:07] they've suppressed it. Years of grief they've suppressed it. Years of just
[01:46:09] they've suppressed it. Years of just trauma and things they've suppressed it.
[01:46:11] trauma and things they've suppressed it. They've not fully allowed themselves to
[01:46:12] They've not fully allowed themselves to feel.
[01:46:13] feel. Do you before they transcend, do you
[01:46:16] Do you before they transcend, do you make them feel that emotion to the
[01:46:18] make them feel that emotion to the fullest or do you just suppress it and
[01:46:20] fullest or do you just suppress it and just Yeah. Just rewire and do something
[01:46:23] just Yeah. Just rewire and do something new. Yeah, I think for a lot of people
[01:46:25] new. Yeah, I think for a lot of people like they they have a lot of strong
[01:46:28] like they they have a lot of strong emotions that are on the surface and
[01:46:31] emotions that are on the surface and they have some strong emotions that are
[01:46:32] they have some strong emotions that are buried in there, right?
[01:46:34] buried in there, right? And I I would never say to a person to
[01:46:37] And I I would never say to a person to suppress their emotion. Listen,
[01:46:40] suppress their emotion. Listen, we all react. We all react, but the
[01:46:42] we all react. We all react, but the question is
[01:46:44] question is how long?
[01:46:45] how long? How long are you going to react? Really,
[01:46:47] How long are you going to react? Really, that's the question. Look at a kid,
[01:46:48] that's the question. Look at a kid, right? A child just has a reaction, 10
[01:46:51] right? A child just has a reaction, 10 minutes they're over it and they're
[01:46:52] minutes they're over it and they're back, you know, for the most part, you
[01:46:55] back, you know, for the most part, you know, playing and doing whatever.
[01:46:58] know, playing and doing whatever. And I think the greatest thing we can
[01:46:59] And I think the greatest thing we can teach children is that kind of emotional
[01:47:01] teach children is that kind of emotional intelligence, to kind of shorten their
[01:47:03] intelligence, to kind of shorten their emotional responses.
[01:47:05] emotional responses. So, uh I I never say to a person, "Don't
[01:47:08] So, uh I I never say to a person, "Don't react." I will say to them,
[01:47:10] react." I will say to them, >> [sighs and gasps]
[01:47:10] >> [sighs and gasps] >> "How long are you going to react for?"
[01:47:11] >> "How long are you going to react for?" Because if you have an event in your
[01:47:13] Because if you have an event in your life that creates an emotion
[01:47:16] life that creates an emotion and you don't regulate that emotion, it
[01:47:18] and you don't regulate that emotion, it lasts for hours or or days, that's
[01:47:20] lasts for hours or or days, that's called a mood. It's one long emotional
[01:47:23] called a mood. It's one long emotional reaction. You say to the person, "Why
[01:47:24] reaction. You say to the person, "Why are you in a mood?" "I'm in a mood
[01:47:26] are you in a mood?" "I'm in a mood because of this thing that happened to
[01:47:27] because of this thing that happened to me
[01:47:28] me 7 days ago." If they keep the same
[01:47:30] 7 days ago." If they keep the same emotional reaction going on for or
[01:47:33] emotional reaction going on for or months weeks to months, that's that's
[01:47:35] months weeks to months, that's that's called a temperament. Uh a person just
[01:47:38] called a temperament. Uh a person just has an angry temperament. Why are you
[01:47:39] has an angry temperament. Why are you angry? I had this event happened to me,
[01:47:41] angry? I had this event happened to me, you know, 9 months ago.
[01:47:44] you know, 9 months ago. It goes on for years on end, that's a
[01:47:45] It goes on for years on end, that's a personality trait.
[01:47:47] personality trait. That personality trait is really based
[01:47:48] That personality trait is really based on an experience or series of
[01:47:50] on an experience or series of experiences that create that emotion,
[01:47:52] experiences that create that emotion, right? And then a person just memorizes
[01:47:54] right? And then a person just memorizes their emotion. They're having one long
[01:47:56] their emotion. They're having one long emotional reaction, and now they're
[01:47:58] emotional reaction, and now they're looking for it.
[01:47:59] looking for it. They're looking for a reason to be
[01:48:01] They're looking for a reason to be angry.
[01:48:02] angry. They're looking, not consciously,
[01:48:04] They're looking, not consciously, they're looking for a reason to judge,
[01:48:06] they're looking for a reason to judge, right? Because it it reaffirms their
[01:48:08] right? Because it it reaffirms their belief in themselves and how they
[01:48:10] belief in themselves and how they believe
[01:48:11] believe what they believe about life.
[01:48:13] what they believe about life. So, [snorts]
[01:48:14] So, [snorts] when a person's sitting in a meditation
[01:48:17] when a person's sitting in a meditation and there's 2,000 people in audience,
[01:48:19] and there's 2,000 people in audience, and they're and their eyes closed, and
[01:48:21] and they're and their eyes closed, and everything's kind of there's music
[01:48:22] everything's kind of there's music playing, and they have some
[01:48:24] playing, and they have some instructions, and all of a sudden here
[01:48:25] instructions, and all of a sudden here comes this agitation.
[01:48:28] comes this agitation. Here comes this resentment, here comes
[01:48:30] Here comes this resentment, here comes this impatience, and the body is revving
[01:48:33] this impatience, and the body is revving up, right? That's when the person
[01:48:35] up, right? That's when the person typically says, "I can't meditate.
[01:48:37] typically says, "I can't meditate. That's my mother's fault. I'm quitting."
[01:48:40] That's my mother's fault. I'm quitting." Whatever.
[01:48:41] Whatever. >> [gasps]
[01:48:41] >> [gasps] >> But if they know what to do, and they
[01:48:43] >> But if they know what to do, and they know how to work with their body,
[01:48:45] know how to work with their body, and like training an animal,
[01:48:47] and like training an animal, Mhm.
[01:48:48] Mhm. They bring the body back into the
[01:48:50] They bring the body back into the present moment because the moment
[01:48:51] present moment because the moment they're feeling that emotion, the body's
[01:48:52] they're feeling that emotion, the body's in the past. They go, "Oh my god, I'm
[01:48:54] in the past. They go, "Oh my god, I'm going into the past. The agitation is
[01:48:56] going into the past. The agitation is turning on the stress hormones. I'm
[01:48:57] turning on the stress hormones. I'm going to go into high beta.
[01:48:58] going to go into high beta. >> [gasps]
[01:49:00] >> [gasps] >> I got to settle the body down. I got to
[01:49:01] >> I got to settle the body down. I got to tell it's no longer the mind." And when
[01:49:03] tell it's no longer the mind." And when you when you do that, and you tell the
[01:49:05] you when you do that, and you tell the body it's no longer the mind, you settle
[01:49:07] body it's no longer the mind, you settle it into the present moment, it liberates
[01:49:09] it into the present moment, it liberates a little bit of energy. Then it gets a
[01:49:10] a little bit of energy. Then it gets a little agitated again, and it gets a
[01:49:12] little agitated again, and it gets a little frustrated again, and then it
[01:49:14] little frustrated again, and then it starts getting impatient, and
[01:49:16] starts getting impatient, and you're not going to give up, and you
[01:49:17] you're not going to give up, and you work with the body again, you settle it
[01:49:19] work with the body again, you settle it down again, you bring it back into the
[01:49:21] down again, you bring it back into the present moment. It's tedious in the
[01:49:22] present moment. It's tedious in the beginning. But like training an animal,
[01:49:25] beginning. But like training an animal, body is the animal, sooner or later it's
[01:49:27] body is the animal, sooner or later it's going to surrender to a new mind.
[01:49:29] going to surrender to a new mind. And when it finally does, there's a huge
[01:49:32] And when it finally does, there's a huge liberation of energy. Now the person
[01:49:34] liberation of energy. Now the person literally taking that emotion, they've
[01:49:36] literally taking that emotion, they've gone from particle to wave, from matter
[01:49:39] gone from particle to wave, from matter to energy that the information that's
[01:49:40] to energy that the information that's stored in the body is being released as
[01:49:42] stored in the body is being released as energy. And now the person doesn't have
[01:49:44] energy. And now the person doesn't have to try
[01:49:45] to try to be more patient. They've they've kind
[01:49:47] to be more patient. They've they've kind of cultivated patience by not letting
[01:49:50] of cultivated patience by not letting the body be the mind. By the same means.
[01:49:54] the body be the mind. By the same means. If you're in the habit of picking up
[01:49:55] If you're in the habit of picking up your cell phone every 5 minutes and
[01:49:58] your cell phone every 5 minutes and scrolling through it and you're in a
[01:49:59] scrolling through it and you're in a meditation or you're busy and you got a
[01:50:01] meditation or you're busy and you got a lot of things to do, you're sitting in
[01:50:03] lot of things to do, you're sitting in the meditation, you want to get up and
[01:50:04] the meditation, you want to get up and you want to go and do something, you
[01:50:06] you want to go and do something, you notice your body doing that, most people
[01:50:08] notice your body doing that, most people say, "I can't meditate. I'm just going
[01:50:09] say, "I can't meditate. I'm just going to quit." If you really want it, if you
[01:50:12] to quit." If you really want it, if you really want change, you got to execute a
[01:50:14] really want change, you got to execute a will that's greater than the program.
[01:50:16] will that's greater than the program. You're going to bring the body back out
[01:50:18] You're going to bring the body back out of that predictable future into the
[01:50:20] of that predictable future into the present moment. And like an unbridled
[01:50:22] present moment. And like an unbridled stallion,
[01:50:23] stallion, it'll buck and kick, it'll do everything
[01:50:25] it'll buck and kick, it'll do everything it can. You just keep bringing it back
[01:50:27] it can. You just keep bringing it back to the present moment. Sooner or later
[01:50:29] to the present moment. Sooner or later it's going to surrender to a new mind.
[01:50:31] it's going to surrender to a new mind. And now the person is going to liberate
[01:50:33] And now the person is going to liberate energy because the present moment is the
[01:50:36] energy because the present moment is the unknown.
[01:50:38] unknown. The familiar past, of feeling certain
[01:50:41] The familiar past, of feeling certain emotions and certain memories,
[01:50:44] emotions and certain memories, that's the known.
[01:50:45] that's the known. Living in a predictable future, you
[01:50:47] Living in a predictable future, you know, where you're always busy, you got
[01:50:49] know, where you're always busy, you got things to do and people to see and
[01:50:50] things to do and people to see and places to go, that's the predictable
[01:50:52] places to go, that's the predictable future. If you can predict it, it's
[01:50:53] future. If you can predict it, it's known, right? So if you can settle into
[01:50:56] known, right? So if you can settle into the present moment and teach the body to
[01:50:58] the present moment and teach the body to relax into the unknown without it being
[01:51:01] relax into the unknown without it being a scary place,
[01:51:03] a scary place, when you can relax into the unknown like
[01:51:05] when you can relax into the unknown like that, the body finally surrenders and
[01:51:07] that, the body finally surrenders and it's free. Now the person is ready to
[01:51:09] it's free. Now the person is ready to create something new. Now,
[01:51:11] create something new. Now, it It takes a little bit of
[01:51:13] it It takes a little bit of understanding. It takes a little bit of
[01:51:15] understanding. It takes a little bit of practice. Uh once again,
[01:51:17] practice. Uh once again, uh you get numerous times uh to practice
[01:51:20] uh you get numerous times uh to practice it. It gets easier and easier and
[01:51:21] it. It gets easier and easier and easier. And usually by the third day of
[01:51:24] easier. And usually by the third day of the event, people sit for They don't
[01:51:25] the event, people sit for They don't even know how long. They forget that
[01:51:27] even know how long. They forget that their body no longer bothers them. It's
[01:51:29] their body no longer bothers them. It's just like It's just They've just trained
[01:51:31] just like It's just They've just trained it, right? And so, the cool part is when
[01:51:33] it, right? And so, the cool part is when they go into their life
[01:51:35] they go into their life and they're with their parents or with
[01:51:37] and they're with their parents or with their siblings and they're smiling and
[01:51:40] their siblings and they're smiling and they're present and they really don't
[01:51:42] they're present and they really don't have a conversation. They're just really
[01:51:43] have a conversation. They're just really happy to see them.
[01:51:45] happy to see them. You know, the the the veil is gone.
[01:51:47] You know, the the the veil is gone. They're way more way more present.
[01:51:50] They're way more way more present. Um
[01:51:51] Um that's what the work is for. That's what
[01:51:53] that's what the work is for. That's what it's for. To live your life and take
[01:51:56] it's for. To live your life and take that into your life and be the you know,
[01:51:59] that into your life and be the you know, be that person that you want to be. Now,
[01:52:02] be that person that you want to be. Now, you said earlier, well, many people
[01:52:03] you said earlier, well, many people don't know who they want to be.
[01:52:06] don't know who they want to be. There's a There's a There's a trade. And
[01:52:09] There's a There's a There's a trade. And the trade is you got to come up against
[01:52:10] the trade is you got to come up against the person you no longer want to be.
[01:52:12] the person you no longer want to be. >> [laughter]
[01:52:13] >> [laughter] >> And you got to really look. And it comes
[01:52:15] >> And you got to really look. And it comes up very naturally and very
[01:52:16] up very naturally and very automatically. And uh a lot of people
[01:52:19] automatically. And uh a lot of people say,
[01:52:20] say, "I wanted to leave after the first day."
[01:52:22] "I wanted to leave after the first day." Like, "Oh, it was way too much." And I
[01:52:25] Like, "Oh, it was way too much." And I you know, I I look at the the military
[01:52:27] you know, I I look at the the military veterans and Navy SEALs and the Green
[01:52:29] veterans and Navy SEALs and the Green Berets. I'm like, "I want three things
[01:52:31] Berets. I'm like, "I want three things from you. Courage
[01:52:33] from you. Courage courage to feel any emotion.
[01:52:35] courage to feel any emotion. Love. That means it's going to reset the
[01:52:38] Love. That means it's going to reset the baseline for the trauma. You got to be
[01:52:39] baseline for the trauma. You got to be able to love.
[01:52:41] able to love. And wisdom. The memory without the
[01:52:43] And wisdom. The memory without the emotional charge is called wisdom.
[01:52:45] emotional charge is called wisdom. That's what you're going to get out of
[01:52:46] That's what you're going to get out of this.
[01:52:47] this. And you can't give up.
[01:52:49] And you can't give up. You go all in.
[01:52:51] You go all in. Sooner or later,
[01:52:52] Sooner or later, I mean, we have again, you know, all
[01:52:55] I mean, we have again, you know, all shapes, all sizes, all cultures, all
[01:52:57] shapes, all sizes, all cultures, all races, uh all pasts, you know, and
[01:53:00] races, uh all pasts, you know, and everybody everybody's able to do it.
[01:53:03] everybody everybody's able to do it. Do [snorts] you react? Yeah.
[01:53:04] Do [snorts] you react? Yeah. >> Do you get angry now? Yeah. Yeah. I
[01:53:05] >> Do you get angry now? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I react. The question is how long?
[01:53:08] mean, I react. The question is how long? Do you get angry now? I don't think it's
[01:53:10] Do you get angry now? I don't think it's healthy for me. I've done it enough
[01:53:12] healthy for me. I've done it enough times to know that it
[01:53:13] times to know that it like
[01:53:15] like it just doesn't serve me any longer. So,
[01:53:18] it just doesn't serve me any longer. So, I really ask myself, is this loving to
[01:53:20] I really ask myself, is this loving to you? Is this Is this going going to
[01:53:22] you? Is this Is this going going to solve anything for you?
[01:53:24] solve anything for you? And usually it I usually just go, "Okay,
[01:53:26] And usually it I usually just go, "Okay, take a few breaths."
[01:53:28] take a few breaths." And And sometimes, you know, I dismiss
[01:53:31] And And sometimes, you know, I dismiss myself
[01:53:32] myself from life. I take a few moments, close
[01:53:35] from life. I take a few moments, close my eyes, get back in that place where I
[01:53:37] my eyes, get back in that place where I want to be.
[01:53:39] want to be. And I think when it's the hardest, it
[01:53:40] And I think when it's the hardest, it matters the most.
[01:53:42] matters the most. But is it
[01:53:43] But is it Is there some pattern that you fail to
[01:53:46] Is there some pattern that you fail to [snorts] overcome and you keep going
[01:53:47] [snorts] overcome and you keep going back to that when you get angry? Like
[01:53:49] back to that when you get angry? Like let's say there are people Anger is such
[01:53:51] let's say there are people Anger is such a normal emotion.
[01:53:52] a normal emotion. You It's every
[01:53:53] You It's every >> You live in an uncertain environment. We
[01:53:55] >> You live in an uncertain environment. We all live in that. Like there has to be
[01:53:57] all live in that. Like there has to be some There are going to be times that
[01:53:58] some There are going to be times that you get angry, right? There are people
[01:54:00] you get angry, right? There are people who get like really raise their voice.
[01:54:03] who get like really raise their voice. There are people who will throw things.
[01:54:04] There are people who will throw things. >> I've never been that person. I've never
[01:54:06] >> I've never been that person. I've never been that person in my life. What do you
[01:54:08] been that person in my life. What do you do when like it just just Um I
[01:54:11] do when like it just just Um I >> getting angry in yourself? Um if I get
[01:54:13] >> getting angry in yourself? Um if I get angry, I usually dismiss myself. I know
[01:54:16] angry, I usually dismiss myself. I know I've I've done it enough times in my
[01:54:18] I've I've done it enough times in my life that it doesn't serve me.
[01:54:20] life that it doesn't serve me. It justified or not. Like I can't If I'm
[01:54:22] It justified or not. Like I can't If I'm saying that person
[01:54:25] saying that person or that circumstance is controlling the
[01:54:28] or that circumstance is controlling the way I'm feeling and the way I'm
[01:54:30] way I'm feeling and the way I'm thinking, then I'm victim to that
[01:54:33] thinking, then I'm victim to that person. That person's controlling my
[01:54:35] person. That person's controlling my thoughts and feelings, then then I'm
[01:54:37] thoughts and feelings, then then I'm giving my power away. The stronger the
[01:54:39] giving my power away. The stronger the emotion I feel towards that person or
[01:54:41] emotion I feel towards that person or that problem, the more I'm going to pay
[01:54:42] that problem, the more I'm going to pay attention to them, right? Where you
[01:54:44] attention to them, right? Where you place your attention is where you place
[01:54:45] place your attention is where you place your energy. So,
[01:54:46] your energy. So, do I really want to give my energy or my
[01:54:48] do I really want to give my energy or my attention to that person? And normally
[01:54:51] attention to that person? And normally the the answer is no, right?
[01:54:54] the the answer is no, right? Um
[01:54:55] Um So, yes. So, I typically typically just
[01:54:58] So, yes. So, I typically typically just take a moment and just reboot.
[01:55:01] take a moment and just reboot. >> That's a good way to deal with it.
[01:55:02] >> That's a good way to deal with it. That's a great way to deal with it.
[01:55:03] That's a great way to deal with it. Yeah. The
[01:55:05] Yeah. The I was researching about you and while I
[01:55:07] I was researching about you and while I was researching I found out that at 19
[01:55:11] was researching I found out that at 19 you read a book, Autobiography of a
[01:55:13] you read a book, Autobiography of a Yogi. Yes, yes, I did. Yeah.
[01:55:16] Yogi. Yes, yes, I did. Yeah. And you said like something in you
[01:55:18] And you said like something in you changed after that.
[01:55:20] changed after that. Um my parents
[01:55:22] Um my parents were best friends with these this couple
[01:55:26] were best friends with these this couple and their son was really good friends
[01:55:28] and their son was really good friends with me.
[01:55:29] with me. And we went to graduate school together.
[01:55:32] And we went to graduate school together. And the father,
[01:55:34] And the father, my parents would make dinners with these
[01:55:37] my parents would make dinners with these couple and they would party with them
[01:55:39] couple and they would party with them and they're very festive.
[01:55:41] and they're very festive. And I never knew this really about this
[01:55:43] And I never knew this really about this guy but he handed me this book when I
[01:55:45] guy but he handed me this book when I was heading to
[01:55:47] was heading to to graduate school and it was a we were
[01:55:50] to graduate school and it was a we were driving from New York all the way down
[01:55:52] driving from New York all the way down to Atlanta. So it was a long a long
[01:55:55] to Atlanta. So it was a long a long drive. So I read the whole book.
[01:55:56] drive. So I read the whole book. >> [gasps]
[01:55:57] >> [gasps] >> And I had just been starting to do yoga.
[01:56:00] >> And I had just been starting to do yoga. I you know, I was interested in it. I
[01:56:01] I you know, I was interested in it. I was doing martial arts at the time.
[01:56:03] was doing martial arts at the time. Something really
[01:56:05] Something really very untraditional for a Westerner. I
[01:56:08] very untraditional for a Westerner. I grew up playing you know, very very
[01:56:09] grew up playing you know, very very Western sports.
[01:56:11] Western sports. And
[01:56:13] And my exposure to yoga and some of the
[01:56:15] my exposure to yoga and some of the yogis that I had met uh
[01:56:18] yogis that I had met uh bothered me cuz I didn't understand
[01:56:22] bothered me cuz I didn't understand where they were coming from.
[01:56:23] where they were coming from. And when I read Autobiography of a Yogi,
[01:56:26] And when I read Autobiography of a Yogi, I was really upset. Like it really
[01:56:28] I was really upset. Like it really changed it shifted my paradigm
[01:56:31] changed it shifted my paradigm quite a bit and I said this is if this
[01:56:33] quite a bit and I said this is if this is the truth, if this is the absolute
[01:56:36] is the truth, if this is the absolute truth, how did this person do it? What
[01:56:38] truth, how did this person do it? What were they teaching? What is this kriya
[01:56:40] were they teaching? What is this kriya breath? You know, I was and I just
[01:56:42] breath? You know, I was and I just everything changed for me.
[01:56:44] everything changed for me. Everything changed for me. My whole life
[01:56:46] Everything changed for me. My whole life changed. I started doing
[01:56:48] changed. I started doing I know this is crazy but I did like 3
[01:56:50] I know this is crazy but I did like 3 hours of yoga
[01:56:52] hours of yoga every morning at 4:00 a.m.
[01:56:54] every morning at 4:00 a.m. hot yoga and then finished with some
[01:56:56] hot yoga and then finished with some very intense breathing.
[01:56:58] very intense breathing. I I don't I think I don't think we
[01:57:00] I I don't I think I don't think we missed a day, my roommate and I, for for
[01:57:03] missed a day, my roommate and I, for for for over 3 years. Like we were out there
[01:57:05] for over 3 years. Like we were out there at 4:00 in the morning every morning.
[01:57:07] at 4:00 in the morning every morning. And we were I was in search of this
[01:57:09] And we were I was in search of this understanding. It just It's something
[01:57:11] understanding. It just It's something that lit a fire in me and the way I saw
[01:57:14] that lit a fire in me and the way I saw Western religion uh and the and the
[01:57:16] Western religion uh and the and the questions that I was willing to ask, I
[01:57:19] questions that I was willing to ask, I sat my father down and I just said,
[01:57:21] sat my father down and I just said, "Look, I'm just If this is the truth,
[01:57:23] "Look, I'm just If this is the truth, I'm just telling you I I can't do this,
[01:57:26] I'm just telling you I I can't do this, you know, the way that we've been
[01:57:27] you know, the way that we've been raised."
[01:57:29] raised." And my father was super cool and he
[01:57:30] And my father was super cool and he said, "Well, if you want to investigate
[01:57:33] said, "Well, if you want to investigate it, let me know what you find out,
[01:57:34] it, let me know what you find out, right?" And it took me on this whole
[01:57:36] right?" And it took me on this whole journey about you know and one way, you
[01:57:39] journey about you know and one way, you know, studying the mind and spirituality
[01:57:42] know, studying the mind and spirituality and and yoga and hypnosis and what was
[01:57:45] and and yoga and hypnosis and what was common and
[01:57:48] common and human potential and what was possible
[01:57:50] human potential and what was possible and
[01:57:51] and uh yeah, I just it just I just went a
[01:57:53] uh yeah, I just it just I just went a whole an unexpected route. A a very
[01:57:56] whole an unexpected route. A a very unexpected route. I was very uh those 4
[01:57:59] unexpected route. I was very uh those 4 years in graduate school, I was very to
[01:58:00] years in graduate school, I was very to myself
[01:58:02] myself and really curious about you know, the
[01:58:05] and really curious about you know, the nature of reality. What's specific
[01:58:07] nature of reality. What's specific teaching from Autobiography of a Yogi
[01:58:10] teaching from Autobiography of a Yogi you still carry today?
[01:58:12] you still carry today? Of just the mystical transcendental
[01:58:15] Of just the mystical transcendental stuff, you know, the tiger Swami, you
[01:58:17] stuff, you know, the tiger Swami, you know, his teacher, you know,
[01:58:19] know, his teacher, you know, uh Babaji and just the way that uh
[01:58:22] uh Babaji and just the way that uh it the way they appeared uh in
[01:58:26] it the way they appeared uh in as as mystics and saints and holy people
[01:58:30] as as mystics and saints and holy people and what the message really was and and
[01:58:32] and what the message really was and and I was bothered by Paramahansa like uh by
[01:58:36] I was bothered by Paramahansa like uh by certain things. What?
[01:58:37] certain things. What? >> He didn't look like a Yogi to me. Like
[01:58:39] >> He didn't look like a Yogi to me. Like it bothered me [snorts] about And he
[01:58:41] it bothered me [snorts] about And he didn't really do well in school. Like he
[01:58:42] didn't really do well in school. Like he didn't really
[01:58:44] didn't really get great grades, you know, and I was
[01:58:45] get great grades, you know, and I was just kind of
[01:58:47] just kind of was you know, bothered by that and and
[01:58:49] was you know, bothered by that and and you know, just things that Not not to
[01:58:51] you know, just things that Not not to say that I was
[01:58:52] say that I was I just was naive at the time. Like I
[01:58:55] I just was naive at the time. Like I just had a a way in my mind that I
[01:58:58] just had a a way in my mind that I thought it was.
[01:58:59] thought it was. And I it it took me full circle for me
[01:59:02] And I it it took me full circle for me to really accept it. My God, my my
[01:59:05] to really accept it. My God, my my understanding is so limited, right? And
[01:59:07] understanding is so limited, right? And it broke me down. And then
[01:59:10] it broke me down. And then I wind up reading a bunch of other
[01:59:11] I wind up reading a bunch of other really spiritual books that, you know,
[01:59:13] really spiritual books that, you know, opened my mind as well.
[01:59:15] opened my mind as well. So, if you got an opportunity in
[01:59:17] So, if you got an opportunity in hypothetical world to
[01:59:20] hypothetical world to collaborate with one of these original
[01:59:23] collaborate with one of these original ancient Indian gurus who follow this
[01:59:25] ancient Indian gurus who follow this work, who would you collaborate with?
[01:59:28] work, who would you collaborate with? >> I'm probably Paramahansa, yeah. Yeah.
[01:59:30] >> I'm probably Paramahansa, yeah. Yeah. Why?
[01:59:31] Why? I think he was just a really kind and
[01:59:34] I think he was just a really kind and and generous and loving human. Yeah.
[01:59:37] and generous and loving human. Yeah. You know, there's also your stuff
[01:59:40] You know, there's also your stuff like your your method, which is pulling
[01:59:44] like your your method, which is pulling mind out of your body, that's based out
[01:59:46] mind out of your body, that's based out of Kundalini.
[01:59:48] of Kundalini. Right? Which is a very
[01:59:50] Right? Which is a very ancient Indian knowledge. So, why don't
[01:59:52] ancient Indian knowledge. So, why don't you call it Kundalini and you give it
[01:59:55] you call it Kundalini and you give it some different name?
[01:59:57] some different name? Um
[01:59:58] Um I discovered that when you name
[02:00:01] I discovered that when you name something
[02:00:02] something based on tradition, I'm going to lose
[02:00:05] based on tradition, I'm going to lose people in the audience.
[02:00:06] people in the audience. Or they're going to say "Oh, I learned
[02:00:10] Or they're going to say "Oh, I learned Kundalini already." And and they're
[02:00:13] Kundalini already." And and they're going to have their own belief about it.
[02:00:15] going to have their own belief about it. So, you'll never hear me say chakras,
[02:00:18] So, you'll never hear me say chakras, you know, you'll never hear me say
[02:00:19] you know, you'll never hear me say Kundalini. I I you know, I I try to stay
[02:00:22] Kundalini. I I you know, I I try to stay away from words where people have a
[02:00:24] away from words where people have a stigma or some unconscious belief. So, I
[02:00:27] stigma or some unconscious belief. So, I rename everything. But
[02:00:30] rename everything. But I stumbled across my own Kundalini
[02:00:33] I stumbled across my own Kundalini experiences not because I was trying in
[02:00:36] experiences not because I was trying in any way to have a Kundalini experience.
[02:00:38] any way to have a Kundalini experience. I just after years of yoga and just all
[02:00:41] I just after years of yoga and just all of this kind of control, when I exerted
[02:00:43] of this kind of control, when I exerted myself and did certain things and I
[02:00:45] myself and did certain things and I breathed a certain way,
[02:00:46] breathed a certain way, uh I would have a dramatic change in my
[02:00:49] uh I would have a dramatic change in my body and in my brain in
[02:00:51] body and in my brain in and and
[02:00:53] and and uh I loved that feeling. I loved that
[02:00:56] uh I loved that feeling. I loved that feeling. It was that energy going right
[02:00:58] feeling. It was that energy going right to my brain and
[02:00:59] to my brain and uh
[02:01:00] uh and so
[02:01:03] and so the breath that we teach is just
[02:01:06] the breath that we teach is just my best understanding of how to
[02:01:10] my best understanding of how to to liberate that energy. All the energy
[02:01:12] to liberate that energy. All the energy you use for to create a baby, to digest
[02:01:14] you use for to create a baby, to digest a meal, to run from a predator, those
[02:01:16] a meal, to run from a predator, those first three energy centers, instead of
[02:01:18] first three energy centers, instead of releasing the energy out, draw that
[02:01:20] releasing the energy out, draw that energy back to the brain. And our brain
[02:01:22] energy back to the brain. And our brain scans show that on some level it it puts
[02:01:25] scans show that on some level it it puts the brain into an altered state, yeah.
[02:01:27] the brain into an altered state, yeah. >> [snorts]
[02:01:27] >> [snorts] >> So, when you do all these researches on
[02:01:31] >> So, when you do all these researches on 5,000-year-old ancient Indian knowledge
[02:01:34] 5,000-year-old ancient Indian knowledge and now you have a lot of science around
[02:01:35] and now you have a lot of science around it and you have done a lot of
[02:01:36] it and you have done a lot of researches. You've
[02:01:38] researches. You've you've packaged it in a much more
[02:01:40] you've packaged it in a much more believable way
[02:01:42] believable way for masses to understand, right? Do you
[02:01:46] for masses to understand, right? Do you Do you think that your work and research
[02:01:47] Do you think that your work and research now validate 5,000-year-old Indian
[02:01:50] now validate 5,000-year-old Indian wisdom? I think it it validates a lot of
[02:01:52] wisdom? I think it it validates a lot of wisdom. All kinds of wisdom.
[02:01:55] wisdom. All kinds of wisdom. >> [gasps]
[02:01:55] >> [gasps] >> I I was invited to the parliament for
[02:01:56] >> I I was invited to the parliament for the world religions, you know, and and
[02:01:59] the world religions, you know, and and and had an opportunity to sit with a lot
[02:02:01] and had an opportunity to sit with a lot of really really
[02:02:03] of really really uh
[02:02:03] uh um
[02:02:05] um educated and adept uh
[02:02:07] educated and adept uh religious leaders.
[02:02:09] religious leaders. And one of the things I learned uh in
[02:02:11] And one of the things I learned uh in sitting at the table with a very very
[02:02:14] sitting at the table with a very very affluent people
[02:02:16] affluent people was that it was a language barrier.
[02:02:18] was that it was a language barrier. Like they were arguing over scriptures
[02:02:20] Like they were arguing over scriptures that were 5,000 years old. Who knows the
[02:02:22] that were 5,000 years old. Who knows the word from 5,000 and what it meant then
[02:02:25] word from 5,000 and what it meant then or 2,000 years old and in another part
[02:02:27] or 2,000 years old and in another part of the world. Like the
[02:02:29] of the world. Like the the language was contemporary at the
[02:02:32] the language was contemporary at the time. And you know, so
[02:02:35] time. And you know, so I wanted to make it more approachable
[02:02:37] I wanted to make it more approachable for people.
[02:02:39] for people. And and gosh, I've taken all kinds of
[02:02:41] And and gosh, I've taken all kinds of courses, you know, from Buddhism to you
[02:02:43] courses, you know, from Buddhism to you know, to to Vedic scriptures, all that
[02:02:45] know, to to Vedic scriptures, all that stuff. It It's a lot.
[02:02:47] stuff. It It's a lot. It's a lot of uh and and it's again
[02:02:50] It's a lot of uh and and it's again for a Westerner, it's very difficult for
[02:02:53] for a Westerner, it's very difficult for them to
[02:02:54] them to wrap their mind around some of the
[02:02:56] wrap their mind around some of the concepts. And I've even sat with them
[02:02:57] concepts. And I've even sat with them and
[02:02:58] and had them tried to help me understand
[02:03:00] had them tried to help me understand differences. It's very tedious and it's
[02:03:03] differences. It's very tedious and it's very difficult. So, for me, I thought,
[02:03:05] very difficult. So, for me, I thought, "What would be the simplest thing to do
[02:03:07] "What would be the simplest thing to do is to find a way to understand it and
[02:03:09] is to find a way to understand it and then rename it in a way that everybody
[02:03:10] then rename it in a way that everybody just goes, "Oh, okay. That makes sense,
[02:03:12] just goes, "Oh, okay. That makes sense, right?" Do you have to know all the
[02:03:14] right?" Do you have to know all the details? No, just this this is the best
[02:03:16] details? No, just this this is the best name we can give. So,
[02:03:19] name we can give. So, I've always wanted to take very complex
[02:03:22] I've always wanted to take very complex ideas or topics,
[02:03:23] ideas or topics, whether it was spiritual or whether it
[02:03:25] whether it was spiritual or whether it was scientific, uh and make them really
[02:03:27] was scientific, uh and make them really simple for people. Uh really simple to
[02:03:30] simple for people. Uh really simple to to make them uh make it approachable for
[02:03:32] to make them uh make it approachable for them to not be intimidated by it, uh but
[02:03:35] them to not be intimidated by it, uh but to understand it. And And now we have so
[02:03:37] to understand it. And And now we have so much science
[02:03:38] much science uh the scientists can actually go way
[02:03:41] uh the scientists can actually go way down the rabbit hole with all kinds of
[02:03:42] down the rabbit hole with all kinds of great uh
[02:03:44] great uh you know,
[02:03:44] you know, you know, great understandings.
[02:03:46] you know, great understandings. >> Because I'm from India, I can instantly
[02:03:50] >> Because I'm from India, I can instantly connect a lot of your work with the
[02:03:52] connect a lot of your work with the Patanjali studies, the Advaita Vedanta,
[02:03:56] Patanjali studies, the Advaita Vedanta, the Vedic scriptures, the uh the
[02:03:58] the Vedic scriptures, the uh the Kundalini method, right?
[02:04:00] Kundalini method, right? And there's a lot of information in our
[02:04:03] And there's a lot of information in our culture.
[02:04:05] culture. What do you think? What do
[02:04:08] What do you think? What do 5,000 year old when there was no
[02:04:10] 5,000 year old when there was no science, like what do those people get
[02:04:12] science, like what do those people get it which even today a lot of Western
[02:04:16] it which even today a lot of Western neuroscientists don't get?
[02:04:17] neuroscientists don't get? >> There weren't a lot of uh there wasn't a
[02:04:19] >> There weren't a lot of uh there wasn't a lot of technology.
[02:04:21] lot of technology. Uh you know, think about living just
[02:04:24] Uh you know, think about living just 300 years ago.
[02:04:26] 300 years ago. It wasn't easy to be human and you know,
[02:04:28] It wasn't easy to be human and you know, live. And so,
[02:04:30] live. And so, I think certain cultures
[02:04:32] I think certain cultures found ways
[02:04:35] found ways to become more enlightened, uh to you
[02:04:38] to become more enlightened, uh to you know, you know, you could even talk
[02:04:40] know, you know, you could even talk about Ayurvedic, right? So, what do we
[02:04:42] about Ayurvedic, right? So, what do we have in our environment that's good for
[02:04:45] have in our environment that's good for the body? You know, what are the what is
[02:04:47] the body? You know, what are the what is the understanding? Why like why like
[02:04:51] the understanding? Why like why like in the West, meditation is such a bad
[02:04:55] in the West, meditation is such a bad thing, right? And in in Buddhism or in
[02:05:00] thing, right? And in in Buddhism or in traditional Indian culture, it's a it's
[02:05:02] traditional Indian culture, it's a it's a way of life. It's like this works.
[02:05:06] a way of life. It's like this works. Like to get your brain body better, this
[02:05:09] Like to get your brain body better, this works to change who you are. So, it was
[02:05:12] works to change who you are. So, it was what they had that sustained the the the
[02:05:16] what they had that sustained the the the the culture
[02:05:18] the culture in the environments that they were in
[02:05:20] in the environments that they were in and it became really very highly
[02:05:23] and it became really very highly effective and very functional. It was a
[02:05:26] effective and very functional. It was a way of life. And and
[02:05:29] way of life. And and and it just happens to be ancient, more
[02:05:31] and it just happens to be ancient, more ancient than than most religion and
[02:05:34] ancient than than most religion and cultures.
[02:05:36] cultures. Why do you think then it was always
[02:05:38] Why do you think then it was always there in ancient culture, right? Like in
[02:05:42] there in ancient culture, right? Like in India out there.
[02:05:44] India out there. But
[02:05:45] But I haven't heard
[02:05:47] I haven't heard of any Indian who was able to package it
[02:05:50] of any Indian who was able to package it in a way to
[02:05:51] in a way to to expand the blessings and the goodness
[02:05:54] to expand the blessings and the goodness of these teachings all around the world.
[02:05:56] of these teachings all around the world. Or package it in a way which is
[02:05:58] Or package it in a way which is digestible, which is helping people
[02:06:01] digestible, which is helping people learn and heal better and become
[02:06:04] learn and heal better and become overcome their old create a new reality.
[02:06:08] overcome their old create a new reality. Like
[02:06:09] Like Indians were not able to do it. Why did
[02:06:11] Indians were not able to do it. Why did we like you are able to do it in a much
[02:06:13] we like you are able to do it in a much better way, in a much larger way. What
[02:06:15] better way, in a much larger way. What do you think where did we lack? I think
[02:06:17] do you think where did we lack? I think there are a lot of Indians that were
[02:06:18] there are a lot of Indians that were able to reach a lot of people when when
[02:06:21] able to reach a lot of people when when Indians came from the from India to the
[02:06:23] Indians came from the from India to the West and you know, they were on talk
[02:06:27] West and you know, they were on talk shows or being buried and then you know,
[02:06:29] shows or being buried and then you know, they dig them up the next day, you know,
[02:06:31] they dig them up the next day, you know, or put it put something through their
[02:06:32] or put it put something through their neck out the other side, you know, uh
[02:06:35] neck out the other side, you know, uh the West was mystified that because
[02:06:36] the West was mystified that because there was only really one guy that was
[02:06:39] there was only really one guy that was able to do anything like that. And this
[02:06:41] able to do anything like that. And this kind of opened people's minds quite a
[02:06:43] kind of opened people's minds quite a bit. So,
[02:06:44] bit. So, uh I think there's a
[02:06:46] uh I think there's a there's a counterculture
[02:06:49] there's a counterculture to kind of suppress that in a lot of
[02:06:52] to kind of suppress that in a lot of ways because
[02:06:54] ways because um
[02:06:55] um it goes against a lot of agendas, right?
[02:06:57] it goes against a lot of agendas, right? So, I do think it may have been a little
[02:06:59] So, I do think it may have been a little bit before their time,
[02:07:02] bit before their time, but I do think they were important
[02:07:04] but I do think they were important elements, important steps for for people
[02:07:08] elements, important steps for for people to understand where we are today. So, I
[02:07:10] to understand where we are today. So, I think they were you know, influenced a
[02:07:12] think they were you know, influenced a lot of people
[02:07:13] lot of people uh in a really important way and they
[02:07:15] uh in a really important way and they were strong seeds uh that bore a lot of
[02:07:18] were strong seeds uh that bore a lot of fruit. But now technology is just is so
[02:07:23] fruit. But now technology is just is so simple to be able to just get on
[02:07:25] simple to be able to just get on something and see something that you
[02:07:27] something and see something that you didn't have a available to you. You had
[02:07:29] didn't have a available to you. You had to go to the the top of a mountain in
[02:07:31] to go to the the top of a mountain in the Himalayas
[02:07:32] the Himalayas >> [laughter]
[02:07:32] >> [laughter] >> to you know, find your way to some
[02:07:34] >> to you know, find your way to some school ancient school of wisdom.
[02:07:37] school ancient school of wisdom. School of ancient wisdom.
[02:07:39] School of ancient wisdom. And you know, be willing to give up your
[02:07:40] And you know, be willing to give up your life to learn some of these things. And
[02:07:43] life to learn some of these things. And I do think that
[02:07:44] I do think that um there were a lot of people that were
[02:07:46] um there were a lot of people that were that made those journeys that we never
[02:07:48] that made those journeys that we never saw again. Yeah. Uh that that said, I'm
[02:07:51] saw again. Yeah. Uh that that said, I'm not coming back to society again and or
[02:07:53] not coming back to society again and or there's
[02:07:54] there's um many people that have transcended in
[02:07:57] um many people that have transcended in some way.
[02:07:58] some way. Uh but I think this is really you know,
[02:08:00] Uh but I think this is really you know, this is a really important time to be
[02:08:02] this is a really important time to be alive.
[02:08:03] alive. And I think it's important to be alive
[02:08:05] And I think it's important to be alive right now because
[02:08:06] right now because you know, the human race is at a very
[02:08:09] you know, the human race is at a very critical point, you know, we either
[02:08:11] critical point, you know, we either implode or we evolve. And um
[02:08:16] implode or we evolve. And um the coming of this new consciousness is
[02:08:19] the coming of this new consciousness is not one person. Yeah. It's got to be a
[02:08:21] not one person. Yeah. It's got to be a collective network of people in you
[02:08:24] collective network of people in you know, when you live in fear or you're
[02:08:26] know, when you live in fear or you're watching news or you're seeing all these
[02:08:28] watching news or you're seeing all these tragedies
[02:08:30] tragedies or you're exposed to different things,
[02:08:32] or you're exposed to different things, it really divides people.
[02:08:35] it really divides people. When you're in survival and when you're
[02:08:36] When you're in survival and when you're in stress, just nobody wants to connect
[02:08:39] in stress, just nobody wants to connect or trust, you know, everybody's got
[02:08:41] or trust, you know, everybody's got their own secular ways and the best way
[02:08:45] their own secular ways and the best way to keep people divided is to keep them
[02:08:48] to keep people divided is to keep them in survival and stress and so
[02:08:51] in survival and stress and so what an important time to be alive. I
[02:08:53] what an important time to be alive. I don't think it's ever been in in my
[02:08:55] don't think it's ever been in in my lifetime I've never felt so much
[02:08:57] lifetime I've never felt so much pressure
[02:08:58] pressure you know, environmentally with all the
[02:09:00] you know, environmentally with all the challenges that we've had and
[02:09:02] challenges that we've had and this is a time where you cannot choose
[02:09:04] this is a time where you cannot choose fear, where you can't choose aggression
[02:09:07] fear, where you can't choose aggression and hatred because
[02:09:08] and hatred because that would add to the consciousness to
[02:09:11] that would add to the consciousness to further divide, right? So there's
[02:09:12] further divide, right? So there's something has to emerge
[02:09:15] something has to emerge that's greater than that and it's not
[02:09:17] that's greater than that and it's not easy especially when
[02:09:19] easy especially when you're threatened in some way or you
[02:09:20] you're threatened in some way or you don't have money or you know, somebody's
[02:09:22] don't have money or you know, somebody's been injured in your family for
[02:09:25] been injured in your family for for some, you know,
[02:09:26] for some, you know, unhealthy reason. So
[02:09:29] unhealthy reason. So it's it's a huge challenge, right? It's
[02:09:31] it's it's a huge challenge, right? It's a huge challenge but this is the time
[02:09:33] a huge challenge but this is the time like we chose to be here
[02:09:35] like we chose to be here and I do think, you know, everybody has
[02:09:37] and I do think, you know, everybody has to play their part on some level because
[02:09:40] to play their part on some level because my interest is if everybody if I'm
[02:09:43] my interest is if everybody if I'm working on myself and you're working on
[02:09:45] working on myself and you're working on yourself and everybody's working on
[02:09:46] yourself and everybody's working on themselves to be [snorts] a better
[02:09:48] themselves to be [snorts] a better person, right? Then there should be
[02:09:50] person, right? Then there should be something really emergent that takes
[02:09:52] something really emergent that takes place because the side effect of that is
[02:09:55] place because the side effect of that is this kind of empathy that I think it's
[02:09:57] this kind of empathy that I think it's natural in human beings. I mean
[02:09:59] natural in human beings. I mean I think we're wired to give,
[02:10:02] I think we're wired to give, to care for one another,
[02:10:04] to care for one another, to inform, to heal, to connect, to
[02:10:08] to inform, to heal, to connect, to invent, to to you know, to support. I
[02:10:11] invent, to to you know, to support. I think we're wired to be that way.
[02:10:13] think we're wired to be that way. >> You will see in India there are a lot of
[02:10:14] >> You will see in India there are a lot of meditators, there are a lot of people
[02:10:15] meditators, there are a lot of people who practice yoga, they go to temples
[02:10:17] who practice yoga, they go to temples and practice gratitude on an everyday
[02:10:19] and practice gratitude on an everyday basis.
[02:10:21] basis. The country has a lot of these people
[02:10:23] The country has a lot of these people and yet
[02:10:24] and yet the
[02:10:26] the depression rates
[02:10:28] depression rates in the country is increasing, suicide
[02:10:30] in the country is increasing, suicide rate is increasing, there is there are
[02:10:32] rate is increasing, there is there are more people struggling with bunch of
[02:10:35] more people struggling with bunch of diseases, mental health problems,
[02:10:38] diseases, mental health problems, finances, all of this
[02:10:41] finances, all of this together.
[02:10:43] together. What's going wrong? When the country was
[02:10:46] What's going wrong? When the country was when the country knows about the value
[02:10:48] when the country knows about the value of meditation and there are a lot of
[02:10:50] of meditation and there are a lot of people who are doing it regularly still,
[02:10:52] people who are doing it regularly still, they're not able to achieve a thriving
[02:10:54] they're not able to achieve a thriving life. Yeah, I think values have changed
[02:10:57] life. Yeah, I think values have changed in the world and it's just not it's not
[02:10:59] in the world and it's just not it's not just in one country or another country.
[02:11:01] just in one country or another country. I think it's ubiquitous. I think it's I
[02:11:04] I think it's ubiquitous. I think it's I think we're seeing a breakdown in so
[02:11:06] think we're seeing a breakdown in so many aspects politically in every
[02:11:09] many aspects politically in every country, economically in every country,
[02:11:12] country, economically in every country, the food we eat, the the health care we
[02:11:15] the food we eat, the the health care we get, the pharmaceuticals we're exposed
[02:11:18] get, the pharmaceuticals we're exposed to, the atmosphere, journalism,
[02:11:21] to, the atmosphere, journalism, education,
[02:11:23] education, >> [laughter]
[02:11:23] >> [laughter] >> medicine, um
[02:11:26] >> medicine, um everything is the par- the the paradigms
[02:11:29] everything is the par- the the paradigms are
[02:11:29] are collapsing. Everything's breaking down.
[02:11:33] collapsing. Everything's breaking down. And, you know,
[02:11:34] And, you know, that has to happen for something new to
[02:11:36] that has to happen for something new to take place. Unfortunately,
[02:11:39] take place. Unfortunately, uh it's having an effect on every
[02:11:41] uh it's having an effect on every culture.
[02:11:42] culture. It's not just India. It's It's just
[02:11:44] It's not just India. It's It's just about in every country that around the
[02:11:47] about in every country that around the world. Uh there are a lot of
[02:11:49] world. Uh there are a lot of self-interests
[02:11:50] self-interests uh that are being demonstrated amongst
[02:11:53] uh that are being demonstrated amongst uh certain people that are really uh
[02:11:56] uh certain people that are really uh excluding
[02:11:57] excluding the value of human beings. And and so
[02:12:01] the value of human beings. And and so when people are undervalued in some way
[02:12:05] when people are undervalued in some way in every front of how they're
[02:12:07] in every front of how they're experiencing life,
[02:12:09] experiencing life, uh
[02:12:10] uh I think you're going to see a lot of
[02:12:12] I think you're going to see a lot of disease, you're going to see a lot of uh
[02:12:14] disease, you're going to see a lot of uh people unhealthy, depressed,
[02:12:16] people unhealthy, depressed, unsatisfied.
[02:12:18] unsatisfied. Uh it's happening it's happening
[02:12:19] Uh it's happening it's happening globally right now.
[02:12:22] globally right now. You You study all of this. You study
[02:12:24] You You study all of this. You study science of meditation.
[02:12:28] science of meditation. Why do you think
[02:12:29] Why do you think India has a lot of meditators, but not
[02:12:32] India has a lot of meditators, but not enough neuroscientists studying
[02:12:34] enough neuroscientists studying >> [laughter]
[02:12:34] >> [laughter] >> meditation?
[02:12:36] >> meditation? Um well, let's see how I can say this.
[02:12:39] Um well, let's see how I can say this. Uh we have a lot of great scientists on
[02:12:41] Uh we have a lot of great scientists on our research team, really intelligent
[02:12:43] our research team, really intelligent people.
[02:12:44] people. >> [gasps]
[02:12:44] >> [gasps] >> And they've spent the majority of their
[02:12:46] >> And they've spent the majority of their life
[02:12:48] life studying drugs.
[02:12:49] studying drugs. Uh that's that's
[02:12:51] Uh that's that's their And and drug pathways, right?
[02:12:54] their And and drug pathways, right? Uh and there's a strong interest in
[02:12:58] Uh and there's a strong interest in uh funding
[02:12:59] uh funding uh drug studies uh because drugs help
[02:13:02] uh drug studies uh because drugs help people. You know, a lot of drugs do help
[02:13:04] people. You know, a lot of drugs do help people.
[02:13:06] people. Uh I think, you know, what's so unique
[02:13:09] Uh I think, you know, what's so unique about our research right now
[02:13:12] about our research right now is that, you know, we can say that
[02:13:16] is that, you know, we can say that the human nervous system manufactures a
[02:13:18] the human nervous system manufactures a pharmacy of chemicals
[02:13:20] pharmacy of chemicals that works better than drugs. That's
[02:13:22] that works better than drugs. That's what our data shows, right? And that's a
[02:13:23] what our data shows, right? And that's a risk Mhm. to be able to say that in the
[02:13:26] risk Mhm. to be able to say that in the world. So,
[02:13:28] world. So, uh we fund [snorts] our own research,
[02:13:31] uh we fund [snorts] our own research, and it's very expensive. You know, I I
[02:13:34] and it's very expensive. You know, I I put a lot into the data collection. We
[02:13:37] put a lot into the data collection. We have nonprofits that work to do the
[02:13:40] have nonprofits that work to do the analysis. We We do, you know, blind
[02:13:43] analysis. We We do, you know, blind studies. We do observational studies. We
[02:13:45] studies. We do observational studies. We do clinical trials.
[02:13:47] do clinical trials. Uh we we publish papers that are
[02:13:50] Uh we we publish papers that are Give you an example. Uh the paper that
[02:13:52] Give you an example. Uh the paper that we just published uh in a Nature
[02:13:54] we just published uh in a Nature journal,
[02:13:56] journal, uh
[02:13:58] most scientific articles get like um
[02:14:03] most scientific articles get like um about 600 to 900 accesses, which means
[02:14:06] about 600 to 900 accesses, which means you publish an article, and about 600 to
[02:14:09] you publish an article, and about 600 to 900 people download it and read it,
[02:14:11] 900 people download it and read it, right?
[02:14:12] right? Where we're at currently right now for
[02:14:14] Where we're at currently right now for this article that we just released just
[02:14:16] this article that we just released just a few weeks ago was at 90,000
[02:14:19] a few weeks ago was at 90,000 views, right? So,
[02:14:22] views, right? So, 900 to 90,000 views. So, I can it's
[02:14:25] 900 to 90,000 views. So, I can it's still going way up. So, there's the
[02:14:27] still going way up. So, there's the thing called an altmetric which
[02:14:29] thing called an altmetric which determines like
[02:14:30] determines like the number of news channels, of
[02:14:33] the number of news channels, of podcasts, you know, the exposure, that
[02:14:35] podcasts, you know, the exposure, that you know, the references for the
[02:14:37] you know, the references for the article.
[02:14:38] article. A great altmetric for a good scientific
[02:14:41] A great altmetric for a good scientific article
[02:14:42] article is around 20. I think the last we looked
[02:14:45] is around 20. I think the last we looked it was about 156.
[02:14:48] it was about 156. So, what does that mean? It means that
[02:14:49] So, what does that mean? It means that people are looking
[02:14:52] people are looking for the right information. This is so
[02:14:54] for the right information. This is so refreshing to say, "Wow,
[02:14:57] refreshing to say, "Wow, they're they're they're making their own
[02:15:00] they're they're they're making their own endogenous opioids, you know,
[02:15:02] endogenous opioids, you know, they're making their own pharmacology of
[02:15:05] they're making their own pharmacology of of
[02:15:07] of fertilizers that grow new neurons.
[02:15:10] fertilizers that grow new neurons. They're changing their brain in this
[02:15:12] They're changing their brain in this dramatic way.
[02:15:13] dramatic way. Uh the cells are working more
[02:15:15] Uh the cells are working more efficiently.
[02:15:17] efficiently. You know, there's just so many things
[02:15:18] You know, there's just so many things that default mode network is what? Shut
[02:15:21] that default mode network is what? Shut off. The person looks like they're on
[02:15:22] off. The person looks like they're on psilocybin when they're in meditation
[02:15:25] psilocybin when they're in meditation without taking anything.
[02:15:27] without taking anything. Um this is an interest that I think
[02:15:30] Um this is an interest that I think people innately have
[02:15:33] people innately have when they're not programmed.
[02:15:34] when they're not programmed. Cuz I keep saying to the scientists, I
[02:15:36] Cuz I keep saying to the scientists, I can't believe this is the truth. Like I
[02:15:38] can't believe this is the truth. Like I can't believe it. Yeah. I can't believe
[02:15:40] can't believe it. Yeah. I can't believe it. It's like it's crazy. And it's not
[02:15:43] it. It's like it's crazy. And it's not just like,
[02:15:44] just like, you know, 10% of the people that we're
[02:15:46] you know, 10% of the people that we're studying have a, you know, two standard
[02:15:49] studying have a, you know, two standard deviation change in their right parietal
[02:15:51] deviation change in their right parietal lobe, you know, in in 13 subjects out
[02:15:54] lobe, you know, in in 13 subjects out of, you know,
[02:15:56] of, you know, 50. It's not like that.
[02:15:58] 50. It's not like that. It's like our data is like 77% of the
[02:16:02] It's like our data is like 77% of the population, 80% of the population, 84%
[02:16:05] population, 80% of the population, 84% of the population, 90% of the
[02:16:07] of the population, 90% of the population, 95% of population, and in
[02:16:10] population, 95% of population, and in many studies 100% of the population.
[02:16:14] many studies 100% of the population. That's it's crazy, right? So, if you're
[02:16:16] That's it's crazy, right? So, if you're reading that article and you're a
[02:16:18] reading that article and you're a scientist, you're doing that exact
[02:16:19] scientist, you're doing that exact thing. You're going like this.
[02:16:21] thing. You're going like this. Now, the crazy part about this
[02:16:24] Now, the crazy part about this is that when we show our data to
[02:16:26] is that when we show our data to reputable scientists and they're sitting
[02:16:28] reputable scientists and they're sitting there looking at it,
[02:16:30] there looking at it, >> [gasps and sighs]
[02:16:30] >> [gasps and sighs] >> the most common thing they say is wait a
[02:16:33] >> the most common thing they say is wait a second. Wait a second.
[02:16:35] second. Wait a second. You're telling me that these changes are
[02:16:37] You're telling me that these changes are taking place in 7 days? This isn't a
[02:16:40] taking place in 7 days? This isn't a This isn't a 1-year study. This is 7
[02:16:43] This isn't a 1-year study. This is 7 days. No way. They're They just It's
[02:16:45] days. No way. They're They just It's unbelievable, right? And it has to be, I
[02:16:47] unbelievable, right? And it has to be, I think, that shocking
[02:16:50] think, that shocking uh
[02:16:51] uh to tell a better story, right? And so,
[02:16:53] to tell a better story, right? And so, >> [gasps]
[02:16:54] >> [gasps] >> the conversations that I'm having with
[02:16:56] >> the conversations that I'm having with researchers and uh physicians and and
[02:16:59] researchers and uh physicians and and and health care providers
[02:17:02] and scientists are not the same
[02:17:03] and scientists are not the same conversation I was having just 2 years
[02:17:05] conversation I was having just 2 years ago. I mean, uh people are lit up. Like,
[02:17:08] ago. I mean, uh people are lit up. Like, they're excited
[02:17:10] they're excited about what's we know what's humanly
[02:17:12] about what's we know what's humanly possible.
[02:17:13] possible. So, I think it's again um
[02:17:18] I believe that on some level
[02:17:21] I believe that on some level uh
[02:17:21] uh people that get into science are getting
[02:17:24] people that get into science are getting into science to discover something new.
[02:17:27] into science to discover something new. And one of our top scientists is family
[02:17:29] And one of our top scientists is family from India. Well, maybe he's from India.
[02:17:31] from India. Well, maybe he's from India. At Bioworks, we have two. And
[02:17:34] At Bioworks, we have two. And in the beginning, he tried everything he
[02:17:36] in the beginning, he tried everything he possibly could to break
[02:17:39] possibly could to break study.
[02:17:40] study. He saw the outcome. He's like, "No way.
[02:17:43] He saw the outcome. He's like, "No way. The body's making something that's
[02:17:45] The body's making something that's causing the COVID virus to not enter the
[02:17:48] causing the COVID virus to not enter the cell.
[02:17:49] cell. No way."
[02:17:51] No way." And then he tried it another way. He
[02:17:52] And then he tried it another way. He tried it another way. Tried to disprove
[02:17:54] tried it another way. Tried to disprove it. And every time he's running the
[02:17:56] it. And every time he's running the study, he's getting the same outcome.
[02:17:58] study, he's getting the same outcome. I know right in that moment and changing
[02:18:00] I know right in that moment and changing his belief. I know he's discovering
[02:18:02] his belief. I know he's discovering something new. I know he's thinking this
[02:18:05] something new. I know he's thinking this is unbelievable, right?
[02:18:08] is unbelievable, right? So, the cell is actually greater than
[02:18:09] So, the cell is actually greater than the environment in this in this
[02:18:11] the environment in this in this circumstance.
[02:18:13] circumstance. The researchers and scientists
[02:18:16] The researchers and scientists in our community that are part of the
[02:18:17] in our community that are part of the team have changed dramatically.
[02:18:21] team have changed dramatically. They've
[02:18:22] They've They've changed dramatically in their
[02:18:25] They've changed dramatically in their beliefs about what is humanly possible.
[02:18:28] beliefs about what is humanly possible. I asked them, "Why do you come to
[02:18:30] I asked them, "Why do you come to events?" A lot of the postdocs that come
[02:18:33] events?" A lot of the postdocs that come and the the researchers that are, you
[02:18:35] and the the researchers that are, you know, running the trials, that are
[02:18:36] know, running the trials, that are looking under the microscope. "Why do
[02:18:39] looking under the microscope. "Why do you come? Why are you coming to sit for
[02:18:41] you come? Why are you coming to sit for 7 days and do this?"
[02:18:43] 7 days and do this?" They're like, "It's medicine."
[02:18:45] They're like, "It's medicine." It's It's medicine. I'm here because
[02:18:47] It's It's medicine. I'm here because it's it's actually medicine. It's kind
[02:18:49] it's it's actually medicine. It's kind of wild.
[02:18:50] of wild. So, we have a lot of papers we'll be
[02:18:52] So, we have a lot of papers we'll be publishing in the next year. You know,
[02:18:55] publishing in the next year. You know, our breast milk study will be the next
[02:18:56] our breast milk study will be the next one that we publish that will be
[02:18:58] one that we publish that will be groundbreaking. You know, really
[02:19:00] groundbreaking. You know, really groundbreaking. You know, we we studied
[02:19:01] groundbreaking. You know, we we studied women that have gone through a
[02:19:03] women that have gone through a 7-day event and we measured their breast
[02:19:05] 7-day event and we measured their breast milk before and after and completely
[02:19:07] milk before and after and completely different breast milk at the end of 7
[02:19:09] different breast milk at the end of 7 days. There are factors in their breast
[02:19:11] days. There are factors in their breast milk
[02:19:12] milk um
[02:19:13] um that will increase wound healing
[02:19:15] that will increase wound healing dramatically.
[02:19:16] dramatically. There are factors that are
[02:19:18] There are factors that are anti-carcinogenic uh
[02:19:20] anti-carcinogenic uh that were not there before. It's
[02:19:21] that were not there before. It's completely different breast milk and
[02:19:23] completely different breast milk and that's the information
[02:19:25] that's the information that the mother is passing to the
[02:19:27] that the mother is passing to the infant. That's what the That's the
[02:19:29] infant. That's what the That's the instructions that the infant is getting
[02:19:31] instructions that the infant is getting as their first you know, their first uh
[02:19:34] as their first you know, their first uh exposure
[02:19:35] exposure uh
[02:19:36] uh lots of food, right?
[02:19:38] lots of food, right? Crazy. And what is also crazy because I
[02:19:40] Crazy. And what is also crazy because I was reading a research and published
[02:19:42] was reading a research and published paper that you published 2 weeks ago.
[02:19:45] paper that you published 2 weeks ago. Yeah.
[02:19:47] Yeah. >> And it's insane what you guys are you
[02:19:49] >> And it's insane what you guys are you you you you just discovered or
[02:19:52] you you you just discovered or you wrote down in that paper. Can you
[02:19:54] you wrote down in that paper. Can you explain my audience
[02:19:56] explain my audience what do you mean by that? She's
[02:19:57] what do you mean by that? She's meditation is able to create
[02:20:01] meditation is able to create an effect in brain which us which
[02:20:03] an effect in brain which us which psychedelics does. Yeah.
[02:20:05] psychedelics does. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:20:05] Yeah. Like no shrooms, no
[02:20:08] Like no shrooms, no no
[02:20:09] no no drugs,
[02:20:10] no drugs, no intervention with any stuff. Maybe
[02:20:12] no intervention with any stuff. Maybe some sort of tea you guys give, I don't
[02:20:14] some sort of tea you guys give, I don't know.
[02:20:15] know. No, exactly. This is exactly the point
[02:20:17] No, exactly. This is exactly the point cuz everybody goes, "What are you giving
[02:20:18] cuz everybody goes, "What are you giving them?" We're like, "Nothing."
[02:20:20] them?" We're like, "Nothing." There's
[02:20:21] There's our our
[02:20:24] our retreats are the perfect scientific
[02:20:27] our retreats are the perfect scientific environment. Everybody's getting up at
[02:20:28] environment. Everybody's getting up at the same time. Everybody's exposed to
[02:20:31] the same time. Everybody's exposed to the same information. Everybody's eating
[02:20:32] the same information. Everybody's eating at the same time. They're eating
[02:20:34] at the same time. They're eating relatively the same food choices.
[02:20:36] relatively the same food choices. They're sleeping at the same time.
[02:20:37] They're sleeping at the same time. There's just kind of this controlled
[02:20:39] There's just kind of this controlled environment where we can really test all
[02:20:41] environment where we can really test all kinds of crazy things and we've got
[02:20:43] kinds of crazy things and we've got probably the largest database in the
[02:20:44] probably the largest database in the world on meditation. So, we decided to
[02:20:48] world on meditation. So, we decided to do some fMRI studies
[02:20:50] do some fMRI studies with novice meditators
[02:20:53] with novice meditators and advanced meditators. And
[02:20:56] and advanced meditators. And we were looking for a few different
[02:20:58] we were looking for a few different things.
[02:21:00] things. We were looking for physiological
[02:21:01] We were looking for physiological changes in the brain and anatomical
[02:21:03] changes in the brain and anatomical changes.
[02:21:04] changes. And the first thing that we discovered
[02:21:06] And the first thing that we discovered with the advanced meditators is they
[02:21:07] with the advanced meditators is they actually grew an area of the brain
[02:21:10] actually grew an area of the brain larger. Like they had more neurons. They
[02:21:12] larger. Like they had more neurons. They were volumetrically larger.
[02:21:14] were volumetrically larger. Which is insane, right? And so then we
[02:21:16] Which is insane, right? And so then we were thinking,
[02:21:18] were thinking, "Are there factors in the blood,
[02:21:21] "Are there factors in the blood, you know, in the bloodstream that could
[02:21:23] you know, in the bloodstream that could be causing this growth?" And we just
[02:21:25] be causing this growth?" And we just we've discovered all these
[02:21:27] we've discovered all these fertilizers, you know, these
[02:21:30] fertilizers, you know, these these neurotrophic factors that actually
[02:21:32] these neurotrophic factors that actually were causing the brain to grow. Now,
[02:21:34] were causing the brain to grow. Now, listen,
[02:21:35] listen, it's crazy because I say to the
[02:21:37] it's crazy because I say to the scientists, "Where are those chemicals
[02:21:39] scientists, "Where are those chemicals coming from? Where are they coming from?
[02:21:41] coming from? Where are they coming from? The person's not ingesting any neuro
[02:21:44] The person's not ingesting any neuro growth factor.
[02:21:46] growth factor. Their man Their nervous system's
[02:21:47] Their man Their nervous system's manufacturing
[02:21:50] manufacturing that that particular
[02:21:53] that that particular chemical, that that piece of information
[02:21:56] chemical, that that piece of information that's causing the brain to flourish, to
[02:21:58] that's causing the brain to flourish, to grow, to expand, like grow new neurons
[02:22:01] grow, to expand, like grow new neurons and create new synaptic connections,
[02:22:03] and create new synaptic connections, this kind of integration, right?
[02:22:06] this kind of integration, right? >> [sighs and gasps]
[02:22:06] >> [sighs and gasps] >> And then and then we saw that
[02:22:09] >> And then and then we saw that that default mode network that we were
[02:22:11] that default mode network that we were talking about earlier, the brain's
[02:22:13] talking about earlier, the brain's predictor, completely shut off. And if
[02:22:16] predictor, completely shut off. And if if it completely shuts off, that means
[02:22:18] if it completely shuts off, that means that the brain's not using the same
[02:22:20] that the brain's not using the same amount of energy any longer. So,
[02:22:23] amount of energy any longer. So, the the the default mode network and the
[02:22:25] the the the default mode network and the salient network were shut off to such a
[02:22:28] salient network were shut off to such a degree that looked like the person was
[02:22:29] degree that looked like the person was taking psilocybin. It looks exactly the
[02:22:32] taking psilocybin. It looks exactly the same, right? But they're not ingesting
[02:22:35] same, right? But they're not ingesting any psilocybin, which is crazy. Is it
[02:22:37] any psilocybin, which is crazy. Is it possible then that if they're if their
[02:22:40] possible then that if they're if their economy of energy in the brain has been
[02:22:45] economy of energy in the brain has been more prioritized, what's happening in
[02:22:47] more prioritized, what's happening in the cells? And we discovered the cells
[02:22:50] the cells? And we discovered the cells are actually working at a way more
[02:22:52] are actually working at a way more efficient level, like a difference
[02:22:53] efficient level, like a difference between burning a log and jet fuel. The
[02:22:56] between burning a log and jet fuel. The cell is just way more efficient in the
[02:22:59] cell is just way more efficient in the way it processes energy. Then we we saw
[02:23:02] way it processes energy. Then we we saw that everybody's noticed a a decrease in
[02:23:04] that everybody's noticed a a decrease in pain. As we we started looking for those
[02:23:07] pain. As we we started looking for those endogenous opioids or opiates, natural
[02:23:10] endogenous opioids or opiates, natural pain relievers.
[02:23:12] pain relievers. 100% [gasps]
[02:23:13] 100% [gasps] of the people that we measured were
[02:23:15] of the people that we measured were making their own natural morphines,
[02:23:17] making their own natural morphines, their own net pain relievers.
[02:23:20] their own net pain relievers. And the cells were deconstructing and
[02:23:22] And the cells were deconstructing and reconstructing at the same time. In
[02:23:24] reconstructing at the same time. In other words, there was an enormous
[02:23:26] other words, there was an enormous amount of change going on on a cellular
[02:23:28] amount of change going on on a cellular level. Pro-inflammatory factors and
[02:23:31] level. Pro-inflammatory factors and anti-inflammatory factors happening, the
[02:23:33] anti-inflammatory factors happening, the cell was regenerating
[02:23:35] cell was regenerating in real time, you know, changing in real
[02:23:38] in real time, you know, changing in real time.
[02:23:39] time. And then we saw those different
[02:23:41] And then we saw those different compartments of the brain that were
[02:23:42] compartments of the brain that were divided and segregated and
[02:23:45] divided and segregated and compartmentalized
[02:23:46] compartmentalized firing in a more unified way. The
[02:23:49] firing in a more unified way. The modulation, the the compartments were
[02:23:52] modulation, the the compartments were more holistic, and not just in a few
[02:23:55] more holistic, and not just in a few people,
[02:23:56] people, in the majority of those people. So, we
[02:23:58] in the majority of those people. So, we saw these dramatic changes.
[02:24:00] saw these dramatic changes. Uh those are few of them, there are
[02:24:01] Uh those are few of them, there are more, but we saw these dramatic changes
[02:24:03] more, but we saw these dramatic changes taking place in
[02:24:05] taking place in um
[02:24:06] um we published the paper, and as I said,
[02:24:08] we published the paper, and as I said, you know, it's gotten such great acclaim
[02:24:09] you know, it's gotten such great acclaim in in a very short amount of time. No
[02:24:11] in in a very short amount of time. No matter where we are in the world,
[02:24:13] matter where we are in the world, um but by around the fifth day, the
[02:24:16] um but by around the fifth day, the fifth day seems to be,
[02:24:18] fifth day seems to be, you know, unanimous at that point.
[02:24:20] you know, unanimous at that point. Right around the fifth day, there's just
[02:24:23] Right around the fifth day, there's just everybody is beaming, everybody is
[02:24:25] everybody is beaming, everybody is joyful, everybody's loving, everybody's
[02:24:27] joyful, everybody's loving, everybody's kind, everybody's caring, everybody's
[02:24:30] kind, everybody's caring, everybody's connected, supportive, and you see
[02:24:32] connected, supportive, and you see people change people.
[02:24:34] people change people. Everybody's grateful. There's like
[02:24:36] Everybody's grateful. There's like everything that their survival
[02:24:39] everything that their survival instincts, what they came with, somehow
[02:24:41] instincts, what they came with, somehow was gone. So, there's
[02:24:44] was gone. So, there's this kind of euphoria where they're very
[02:24:45] this kind of euphoria where they're very present, very relaxed, and very awake.
[02:24:49] present, very relaxed, and very awake. In in
[02:24:51] In in the the the feeling probably would be
[02:24:54] the the the feeling probably would be this kind of euphoria. When the language
[02:24:56] this kind of euphoria. When the language specialists interview people that have
[02:24:59] specialists interview people that have had these transcendental moments,
[02:25:03] had these transcendental moments, the most common word that they use is I
[02:25:06] the most common word that they use is I felt it or I feel it. Like the feeling
[02:25:09] felt it or I feel it. Like the feeling is the most pronounced word that tends
[02:25:11] is the most pronounced word that tends to come up. And the feeling in is
[02:25:13] to come up. And the feeling in is divided into two categories.
[02:25:16] divided into two categories. One feeling is very somatic. Like they
[02:25:18] One feeling is very somatic. Like they say, I could feel it in every cell of my
[02:25:22] say, I could feel it in every cell of my body. I could feel like my top of my
[02:25:24] body. I could feel like my top of my head blew off or there was there was
[02:25:27] head blew off or there was there was energy like lightning coming out of my
[02:25:29] energy like lightning coming out of my fingers, or my heart exploded or turned
[02:25:32] fingers, or my heart exploded or turned on like an engine.
[02:25:34] on like an engine. It's very somatic. Like they'll be like,
[02:25:36] It's very somatic. Like they'll be like, "Wow, that was nothing I've ever felt
[02:25:38] "Wow, that was nothing I've ever felt before." And they can only use metaphors
[02:25:40] before." And they can only use metaphors to be able to explain like this moment.
[02:25:43] to be able to explain like this moment. And the other side is very emotional.
[02:25:45] And the other side is very emotional. They'll say,
[02:25:46] They'll say, "I've never felt love like this in my
[02:25:48] "I've never felt love like this in my life. Like
[02:25:49] life. Like >> [snorts]
[02:25:49] >> [snorts] >> I I thought I knew what love was. This
[02:25:51] >> I I thought I knew what love was. This is This is next level. It's not
[02:25:54] is This is next level. It's not chemical. It's It's something else."
[02:25:56] chemical. It's It's something else." Like and I and they cannot find the
[02:25:58] Like and I and they cannot find the words
[02:25:59] words to describe that feeling cuz they're
[02:26:01] to describe that feeling cuz they're like, "It was connection,
[02:26:03] like, "It was connection, but it's not It's like like I remembered
[02:26:05] but it's not It's like like I remembered that I was I forgot that I'm love." You
[02:26:07] that I was I forgot that I'm love." You know, like they just You try to find the
[02:26:09] know, like they just You try to find the words. Um
[02:26:11] words. Um And as I said,
[02:26:12] And as I said, um
[02:26:13] um there's this kind of sense of change
[02:26:16] there's this kind of sense of change that takes place where
[02:26:18] that takes place where you no don't feel like the same person
[02:26:19] you no don't feel like the same person any longer. Many times,
[02:26:22] any longer. Many times, as a side effect of that, a person has a
[02:26:24] as a side effect of that, a person has a very dramatic change in their health.
[02:26:27] very dramatic change in their health. Like there's something that where they
[02:26:29] Like there's something that where they had that they no longer have. Like they
[02:26:30] had that they no longer have. Like they get an upgrade. Like the body's lifted
[02:26:33] get an upgrade. Like the body's lifted uh by a new energy. And and they'll say,
[02:26:35] uh by a new energy. And and they'll say, "Yeah, I I I had this condition like
[02:26:38] "Yeah, I I I had this condition like Parkinson's. I no longer have it." Or,
[02:26:40] Parkinson's. I no longer have it." Or, you know, I I I I had eczema all over my
[02:26:43] you know, I I I I had eczema all over my body. I don't have eczema anymore." You
[02:26:46] body. I don't have eczema anymore." You know, whatever. You know, they have some
[02:26:47] know, whatever. You know, they have some type of change in their
[02:26:49] type of change in their uh in their health, too.
[02:26:52] uh in their health, too. I I've read the testimonials. I've read
[02:26:54] I I've read the testimonials. I've read all of these things. And I've heard
[02:26:56] all of these things. And I've heard about it from so many people who
[02:26:58] about it from so many people who attended your retreats, as well.
[02:27:00] attended your retreats, as well. People say that
[02:27:03] People say that there have been tumors which have
[02:27:04] there have been tumors which have disappeared.
[02:27:06] disappeared. They've They've gotten their cancers
[02:27:08] They've They've gotten their cancers better. Diseases got reversed. So many
[02:27:11] better. Diseases got reversed. So many wild things. What is one transformation
[02:27:13] wild things. What is one transformation which you feel
[02:27:15] which you feel even till date even you can't believe
[02:27:17] even till date even you can't believe it?
[02:27:17] it? >> Yeah.
[02:27:17] >> Yeah. >> Like it's an unbelievable transformation
[02:27:19] >> Like it's an unbelievable transformation story and you don't have a justification
[02:27:20] story and you don't have a justification yourself. I can think of two. Okay. Now,
[02:27:23] yourself. I can think of two. Okay. Now, one is from a young man from India
[02:27:26] one is from a young man from India uh that was diagnosed with uh muscular
[02:27:29] uh that was diagnosed with uh muscular dystrophy.
[02:27:30] dystrophy. Now, if you get on the internet today
[02:27:33] Now, if you get on the internet today and you Google muscular dystrophy and
[02:27:34] and you Google muscular dystrophy and you look at Reuters or you look at uh
[02:27:38] you look at Reuters or you look at uh Medscape or you you you look at any of
[02:27:41] Medscape or you you you look at any of the references.
[02:27:43] the references. They'll tell you that there is no cure.
[02:27:45] They'll tell you that there is no cure. There is no cure for muscular dystrophy.
[02:27:47] There is no cure for muscular dystrophy. This guy came in a wheelchair. He came
[02:27:50] This guy came in a wheelchair. He came into London
[02:27:51] into London and he left the event walking.
[02:27:54] and he left the event walking. And I I just I watched his testimonial.
[02:27:58] And I I just I watched his testimonial. In one week I must have watched it 50
[02:28:00] In one week I must have watched it 50 times because it I just I could not
[02:28:02] times because it I just I could not believe in
[02:28:04] believe in this guy's story and
[02:28:06] this guy's story and he was so authentic
[02:28:09] he was so authentic in the way he was saying, "The way I
[02:28:11] in the way he was saying, "The way I feel right now, I haven't felt this way
[02:28:13] feel right now, I haven't felt this way in 14 years." He's a young guy and his
[02:28:16] in 14 years." He's a young guy and his parents didn't want to tell him he had
[02:28:17] parents didn't want to tell him he had muscular dystrophy when he was young
[02:28:19] muscular dystrophy when he was young because they didn't want to like ruin
[02:28:22] because they didn't want to like ruin his life and then as he got older he
[02:28:24] his life and then as he got older he started falling
[02:28:26] started falling and then he couldn't walk and then he
[02:28:27] and then he couldn't walk and then he wound up in a wheelchair and then they
[02:28:28] wound up in a wheelchair and then they told him and the doctors told him,
[02:28:30] told him and the doctors told him, "You're going to have this going to get
[02:28:31] "You're going to have this going to get worse."
[02:28:32] worse." And he was just on this search on this
[02:28:34] And he was just on this search on this journey and then he came to London in a
[02:28:36] journey and then he came to London in a wheelchair
[02:28:38] wheelchair and he's walking around in his life
[02:28:40] and he's walking around in his life right now. I mean it's insane. That's
[02:28:42] right now. I mean it's insane. That's one story.
[02:28:44] one story. And then we had a woman that was
[02:28:45] And then we had a woman that was diagnosed with colorectal cancer.
[02:28:48] diagnosed with colorectal cancer. And the typical procedure for that is to
[02:28:51] And the typical procedure for that is to to surgically remove the colon and the
[02:28:53] to surgically remove the colon and the rectum. So, they took out 9 cm
[02:28:57] rectum. So, they took out 9 cm of her colon and rectum. Now, when you
[02:28:59] of her colon and rectum. Now, when you lose that part of your body
[02:29:01] lose that part of your body you have to have a bag because you can
[02:29:04] you have to have a bag because you can no longer control your bowel function.
[02:29:07] no longer control your bowel function. And on some level you lose your dignity,
[02:29:09] And on some level you lose your dignity, right? And so
[02:29:11] right? And so she spent the majority of her time
[02:29:14] she spent the majority of her time next to a toilet her whole life. She
[02:29:16] next to a toilet her whole life. She couldn't walk. She told me she couldn't
[02:29:18] couldn't walk. She told me she couldn't be more than 3 or 4 m from the toilet
[02:29:20] be more than 3 or 4 m from the toilet because she had to go back there and sit
[02:29:23] because she had to go back there and sit on it all the time.
[02:29:24] on it all the time. Anyway,
[02:29:25] Anyway, they told her, "You're going to live
[02:29:27] they told her, "You're going to live with this. You're too old. Don't you
[02:29:29] with this. You're too old. Don't you know, don't expect any change." She
[02:29:31] know, don't expect any change." She didn't accept that.
[02:29:32] didn't accept that. This is a crazy story cuz it
[02:29:35] This is a crazy story cuz it it has challenged my belief.
[02:29:38] it has challenged my belief. She told me that she started doing the
[02:29:40] She told me that she started doing the work and she thought maybe I could grow
[02:29:42] work and she thought maybe I could grow my rectum and my colon back.
[02:29:45] my rectum and my colon back. And everybody told her she was crazy,
[02:29:46] And everybody told her she was crazy, right? And she did the work. She did the
[02:29:49] right? And she did the work. She did the work. She did the work. At a certain
[02:29:51] work. She did the work. At a certain point, she told me she was able to do
[02:29:53] point, she told me she was able to do She told me I couldn't do a meditation
[02:29:55] She told me I couldn't do a meditation and get through it. I'd have to go to
[02:29:57] and get through it. I'd have to go to the toilet in 1 minute or 2 minutes and
[02:29:59] the toilet in 1 minute or 2 minutes and I would just do my meditation on the
[02:30:00] I would just do my meditation on the toilet, she said.
[02:30:02] toilet, she said. And she said, "One day
[02:30:04] And she said, "One day I was able to do my entire meditation
[02:30:06] I was able to do my entire meditation without using the toilet." That's all
[02:30:08] without using the toilet." That's all she needed.
[02:30:09] she needed. That's all she needed. And then the next
[02:30:11] That's all she needed. And then the next thing you know, she was able to become
[02:30:13] thing you know, she was able to become more mobile.
[02:30:15] more mobile. And then she decided to come to a
[02:30:17] And then she decided to come to a week-long retreat and she just thought,
[02:30:19] week-long retreat and she just thought, "I don't know how I'm going to do this,
[02:30:20] "I don't know how I'm going to do this, but I'm going to come."
[02:30:22] but I'm going to come." She sat through every single lecture
[02:30:26] She sat through every single lecture and every single meditation without
[02:30:28] and every single meditation without using the toilet. She went back to her
[02:30:30] using the toilet. She went back to her doctor after that
[02:30:32] doctor after that and she grew 5 cm of her colon back.
[02:30:35] and she grew 5 cm of her colon back. Went on the scan. But I'm not done.
[02:30:38] Went on the scan. But I'm not done. She continued to do the work um and
[02:30:40] She continued to do the work um and continued the the process.
[02:30:43] continued the the process. And um she stood on the stage and um she
[02:30:46] And um she stood on the stage and um she grew 10 cm of her rectum and colon back
[02:30:49] grew 10 cm of her rectum and colon back after she got 9 cm
[02:30:52] after she got 9 cm of her colon and rectum surgically
[02:30:54] of her colon and rectum surgically removed. Now, what does that mean?
[02:30:57] removed. Now, what does that mean? That means the human body
[02:31:00] That means the human body has the innate capacity
[02:31:02] has the innate capacity to regenerate itself at any age if it's
[02:31:04] to regenerate itself at any age if it's given the right information.
[02:31:06] given the right information. I mean, growing tissues that are part of
[02:31:09] I mean, growing tissues that are part of an organ that have been surgically
[02:31:10] an organ that have been surgically removed, growing that back
[02:31:14] removed, growing that back I didn't even want to say anything
[02:31:15] I didn't even want to say anything publicly about that because it's it's
[02:31:18] publicly about that because it's it's not easy for people to wrap their mind
[02:31:20] not easy for people to wrap their mind around it, but no different than a
[02:31:22] around it, but no different than a salamander or an octopus,
[02:31:24] salamander or an octopus, um she she she was able to restore
[02:31:27] um she she she was able to restore tissue on her body and and yeah, she
[02:31:29] tissue on her body and and yeah, she just came to an event a few months ago
[02:31:31] just came to an event a few months ago and
[02:31:32] and she's living her life. Yeah.
[02:31:35] she's living her life. Yeah. And that's a that's a strong footprint
[02:31:36] And that's a that's a strong footprint in consciousness
[02:31:38] in consciousness because that means that if she can do it
[02:31:40] because that means that if she can do it >> How is that possible like
[02:31:43] >> How is that possible like Well, [clears throat] um
[02:31:45] Well, [clears throat] um What's happening?
[02:31:46] What's happening? I do think that it's a it's a a very
[02:31:49] I do think that it's a it's a a very long journey. I mean, it took her a few
[02:31:52] long journey. I mean, it took her a few years to do, but she
[02:31:54] years to do, but she she was she never gave up. I mean, when
[02:31:56] she was she never gave up. I mean, when you're
[02:31:57] you're in the meditative state, if you know
[02:31:59] in the meditative state, if you know exactly how to do this,
[02:32:02] exactly how to do this, if you can open the door between your
[02:32:04] if you can open the door between your conscious mind and your subconscious
[02:32:06] conscious mind and your subconscious mind,
[02:32:07] mind, and your subconscious mind is your
[02:32:09] and your subconscious mind is your autonomic nervous system.
[02:32:11] autonomic nervous system. Autonomic meaning automatic or
[02:32:13] Autonomic meaning automatic or autonomous. It's functioning
[02:32:15] autonomous. It's functioning independently of your conscious mind.
[02:32:18] independently of your conscious mind. It has an innate intelligence, right?
[02:32:20] It has an innate intelligence, right? To restore and repair and regenerate.
[02:32:24] To restore and repair and regenerate. So, if the door is open
[02:32:26] So, if the door is open and you're able to provide the autonomic
[02:32:29] and you're able to provide the autonomic nervous system with the right
[02:32:31] nervous system with the right information and intention is that
[02:32:34] information and intention is that information,
[02:32:36] information, the intention will serve as information
[02:32:38] the intention will serve as information and the autonomic nervous system will
[02:32:40] and the autonomic nervous system will take that information and begin to
[02:32:42] take that information and begin to manufacture
[02:32:44] manufacture chemicals and hormones that begin to
[02:32:47] chemicals and hormones that begin to restore and repair the body to
[02:32:49] restore and repair the body to regenerate it in some level. And it's
[02:32:50] regenerate it in some level. And it's got to be very specific. And and I saw
[02:32:53] got to be very specific. And and I saw the scan.
[02:32:55] the scan. It's not like a
[02:32:56] It's not like a a rectum and colon that has scar tissue
[02:32:59] a rectum and colon that has scar tissue and partially developed. This is like
[02:33:01] and partially developed. This is like a brand new regenerated
[02:33:04] a brand new regenerated juvenile opalescent
[02:33:06] juvenile opalescent beautiful tissue. It's it's it's crazy.
[02:33:09] beautiful tissue. It's it's it's crazy. Yeah. Why aren't they teaching this in
[02:33:11] Yeah. Why aren't they teaching this in medical schools then? Well, [laughter]
[02:33:12] medical schools then? Well, [laughter] it's really interesting. Um Because you
[02:33:14] it's really interesting. Um Because you have a lot of data and a lot of
[02:33:15] have a lot of data and a lot of researches to prove it now.
[02:33:17] researches to prove it now. >> Yeah. Well, I mean, again, the
[02:33:18] >> Yeah. Well, I mean, again, the conversations I'm having with
[02:33:20] conversations I'm having with universities are very different. I mean,
[02:33:22] universities are very different. I mean, the the the department head, the chair
[02:33:24] the the the department head, the chair of the department of anesthesiology at
[02:33:26] of the department of anesthesiology at the University of California, San Diego,
[02:33:29] the University of California, San Diego, um you know, we're talking about um
[02:33:32] um you know, we're talking about um doing a course for medical students
[02:33:35] doing a course for medical students uh at the at the school there on the
[02:33:37] uh at the at the school there on the mind-body connection.
[02:33:39] mind-body connection. And the reason that's important to me is
[02:33:41] And the reason that's important to me is that this work is not for everybody,
[02:33:43] that this work is not for everybody, Rush, you know?
[02:33:45] Rush, you know? Um some people my mother was like
[02:33:47] Um some people my mother was like traditional medicine, like she just was
[02:33:49] traditional medicine, like she just was she believed in her doctor, and whatever
[02:33:51] she believed in her doctor, and whatever her doctor said, she would do.
[02:33:52] her doctor said, she would do. >> [gasps]
[02:33:53] >> [gasps] >> And and I and I don't want to force this
[02:33:55] >> And and I and I don't want to force this down anybody's throat, but the the
[02:33:58] down anybody's throat, but the the faculty there is thinking in a really
[02:34:00] faculty there is thinking in a really profound way, because let's say you
[02:34:03] profound way, because let's say you decide to become
[02:34:05] decide to become a plastic surgeon, or you become a brain
[02:34:07] a plastic surgeon, or you become a brain surgeon, or you uh you know, you become
[02:34:11] surgeon, or you uh you know, you become an oncologist, right?
[02:34:13] an oncologist, right? And um you you're exposed to the course
[02:34:16] And um you you're exposed to the course that we teach where that you see all
[02:34:18] that we teach where that you see all this crazy stuff,
[02:34:20] this crazy stuff, and you have a patient that shows up in
[02:34:22] and you have a patient that shows up in your clinic,
[02:34:24] your clinic, and the person says, "I was diagnosed
[02:34:26] and the person says, "I was diagnosed with this condition. I want to try this
[02:34:29] with this condition. I want to try this meditation stuff while I'm getting my
[02:34:31] meditation stuff while I'm getting my treatments, or while I'm getting, you
[02:34:33] treatments, or while I'm getting, you know, my I I want to work with you."
[02:34:36] know, my I I want to work with you." The doctor's not going to say,
[02:34:38] The doctor's not going to say, "That's not that's not realistic, or
[02:34:41] "That's not that's not realistic, or that's junk, or you know, I'm not going
[02:34:43] that's junk, or you know, I'm not going to see you, or discourage the person."
[02:34:46] to see you, or discourage the person." The doctor's going to say, "You know
[02:34:47] The doctor's going to say, "You know what?
[02:34:49] what? I saw the data when I was in medical
[02:34:51] I saw the data when I was in medical school. I saw what's possible. I mean, I
[02:34:54] school. I saw what's possible. I mean, I don't know enough about it, but I'll
[02:34:56] don't know enough about it, but I'll help you if you want to do it, but let's
[02:34:58] help you if you want to do it, but let's just make sure we test you every few
[02:35:00] just make sure we test you every few months. Let's make sure that you're
[02:35:02] months. Let's make sure that you're progressing in the right direction."
[02:35:04] progressing in the right direction." Now the doctor's encouraging the
[02:35:06] Now the doctor's encouraging the patient, and engaging them in a way
[02:35:08] patient, and engaging them in a way like, "Go ahead, but you know, let's do
[02:35:10] like, "Go ahead, but you know, let's do what we do, and let's see if we can go
[02:35:12] what we do, and let's see if we can go from point A to point B." Like
[02:35:15] from point A to point B." Like so many doctors now, when they see that
[02:35:18] so many doctors now, when they see that when their patient shows up they all say
[02:35:20] when their patient shows up they all say the same thing when they do this they
[02:35:21] the same thing when they do this they see the scans they all say the same
[02:35:22] see the scans they all say the same thing.
[02:35:23] thing. I don't know what you're doing
[02:35:26] I don't know what you're doing but whatever you're doing keep doing it.
[02:35:28] but whatever you're doing keep doing it. That's what they tell their patients
[02:35:29] That's what they tell their patients now.
[02:35:30] now. And now we're having enormous amounts of
[02:35:33] And now we're having enormous amounts of physicians
[02:35:34] physicians and uh researchers showing up at our
[02:35:36] and uh researchers showing up at our events. They're just blown away. It's
[02:35:39] events. They're just blown away. It's pretty exciting time, yeah.
[02:35:41] pretty exciting time, yeah. You know when you do more meditations I
[02:35:43] You know when you do more meditations I was reading somewhere when you get
[02:35:44] was reading somewhere when you get closer to all of this
[02:35:49] you you have you start to develop a good
[02:35:52] you you have you start to develop a good relationship with death.
[02:35:54] relationship with death. You are not scared of it anymore.
[02:35:57] You are not scared of it anymore. So are you are you scared of death? Not
[02:35:58] So are you are you scared of death? Not really, no. What has changed when you
[02:36:01] really, no. What has changed when you were young and not exposed to all of
[02:36:03] were young and not exposed to all of this stuff and probably 40 years later
[02:36:06] this stuff and probably 40 years later today?
[02:36:06] today? >> Yeah. God I've lived so much life.
[02:36:09] >> Yeah. God I've lived so much life. Um
[02:36:10] Um I I do think I do I mean it's taken me a
[02:36:13] I I do think I do I mean it's taken me a while to believe that I'm eternal.
[02:36:16] while to believe that I'm eternal. But but I do believe that we're eternal
[02:36:18] But but I do believe that we're eternal and if you're eternal
[02:36:20] and if you're eternal um gosh um what is there to be afraid of
[02:36:24] um gosh um what is there to be afraid of when it comes to death, right? I mean
[02:36:26] when it comes to death, right? I mean um I've had some mystical experiences
[02:36:28] um I've had some mystical experiences that have changed my view of death in
[02:36:32] that have changed my view of death in some ways.
[02:36:34] some ways. Uh so
[02:36:36] Uh so I don't know I think it I think what
[02:36:38] I don't know I think it I think what we've been programmed to believe about
[02:36:40] we've been programmed to believe about death
[02:36:41] death is not what it really is. And And one of
[02:36:43] is not what it really is. And And one of the things that I'm really fascinated
[02:36:45] the things that I'm really fascinated with I've always been fascinated with
[02:36:47] with I've always been fascinated with from the time I was 18 years old
[02:36:49] from the time I was 18 years old um cuz my dad asked me to read this book
[02:36:52] um cuz my dad asked me to read this book um is just kind of these near-death
[02:36:54] um is just kind of these near-death experiences where people you know have a
[02:36:57] experiences where people you know have a near-death experience they review their
[02:36:59] near-death experience they review their life or they they see the their life
[02:37:01] life or they they see the their life from a different perspective and they
[02:37:03] from a different perspective and they come back, you know, and they tell their
[02:37:05] come back, you know, and they tell their story of what their experience was. I've
[02:37:07] story of what their experience was. I've never heard a person who had a
[02:37:09] never heard a person who had a near-death experience say that it was
[02:37:11] near-death experience say that it was horrible.
[02:37:12] horrible. They said 100% of the time there was so
[02:37:14] They said 100% of the time there was so much love.
[02:37:15] much love. Uh and there they felt they were bathed
[02:37:17] Uh and there they felt they were bathed in some
[02:37:19] in some light or some frequency that somehow was
[02:37:22] light or some frequency that somehow was profoundly healing to them. And it
[02:37:25] profoundly healing to them. And it changed the way they they
[02:37:27] changed the way they they when they came back changed the way that
[02:37:28] when they came back changed the way that they saw life.
[02:37:30] they saw life. So um
[02:37:32] So um I think we have to just redefine our you
[02:37:35] I think we have to just redefine our you know our our
[02:37:37] know our our our programming around what we think
[02:37:39] our programming around what we think death is. Um
[02:37:42] And I and I and I think that um the more
[02:37:45] And I and I and I think that um the more you interact in consciousness
[02:37:47] you interact in consciousness uh I think the more you I think the more
[02:37:50] uh I think the more you I think the more we see it differently. But at what point
[02:37:52] we see it differently. But at what point do you think intentions
[02:37:55] do you think intentions meditation will
[02:37:58] meditation will power of practice of what do you do
[02:38:01] power of practice of what do you do will be able to defy death at some
[02:38:03] will be able to defy death at some point. Will it be ever?
[02:38:08] Can thoughts delay death?
[02:38:11] Can thoughts delay death? Um I think there are timelines, you
[02:38:13] Um I think there are timelines, you know, more probable timelines for
[02:38:15] know, more probable timelines for certain people.
[02:38:16] certain people. I think there's a soul that's involved
[02:38:19] I think there's a soul that's involved in our life, you know, and I think the
[02:38:20] in our life, you know, and I think the soul negotiates certain things
[02:38:23] soul negotiates certain things uh before we enter this life.
[02:38:26] uh before we enter this life. But I do think people change timelines
[02:38:28] But I do think people change timelines uh when they when they decide to change.
[02:38:31] uh when they when they decide to change. In other words
[02:38:33] In other words in some way they're reborn as a new
[02:38:35] in some way they're reborn as a new person in the same life without having
[02:38:37] person in the same life without having to die, you know, and they become
[02:38:39] to die, you know, and they become somebody else, right? In in a way that's
[02:38:42] somebody else, right? In in a way that's a
[02:38:42] a the birthing process sometimes is
[02:38:44] the birthing process sometimes is uncomfortable, it's painful, and they
[02:38:46] uncomfortable, it's painful, and they kind of emerge, you know, as a different
[02:38:48] kind of emerge, you know, as a different person. And so they're on a different
[02:38:50] person. And so they're on a different timeline
[02:38:51] timeline than the timeline where they were
[02:38:53] than the timeline where they were diagnosed with a certain condition. I'm
[02:38:55] diagnosed with a certain condition. I'm using that as a or a certain timeline
[02:38:57] using that as a or a certain timeline where they're going to have a certain
[02:38:59] where they're going to have a certain experience in their life that could lead
[02:39:01] experience in their life that could lead to their death. They're on a whole
[02:39:02] to their death. They're on a whole different timeline that can change their
[02:39:06] different timeline that can change their that change their all of eternity,
[02:39:08] that change their all of eternity, change their future in all of eternity.
[02:39:12] change their future in all of eternity. And I do think, you know, there's a
[02:39:13] And I do think, you know, there's a realistic element of the soul where
[02:39:16] realistic element of the soul where um
[02:39:18] um you know, it negotiates certain things
[02:39:19] you know, it negotiates certain things and you know, people
[02:39:21] and you know, people uh have to fulfill those uh you know,
[02:39:24] uh have to fulfill those uh you know, those obligations. Let me Let me ask you
[02:39:27] those obligations. Let me Let me ask you something which a lot of
[02:39:29] something which a lot of my friends and I struggle with. Okay,
[02:39:31] my friends and I struggle with. Okay, it's another
[02:39:33] it's another personal thing that
[02:39:35] personal thing that I grew up with
[02:39:39] I grew up with with seeing lot of
[02:39:41] with seeing lot of problems in my family that with regards
[02:39:43] problems in my family that with regards to finances.
[02:39:45] to finances. We almost grew up with financial
[02:39:47] We almost grew up with financial insecurity.
[02:39:49] insecurity. I've seen my dad struggling to the tea.
[02:39:52] I've seen my dad struggling to the tea. We had nothing. We had to change houses.
[02:39:54] We had nothing. We had to change houses. There was fights in the family for
[02:39:56] There was fights in the family for finances the moment they had little
[02:39:58] finances the moment they had little money.
[02:39:59] money. And then we had to leave the house and
[02:40:00] And then we had to leave the house and live in a very small
[02:40:02] live in a very small uh apartment with me, my mom, my dad, my
[02:40:05] uh apartment with me, my mom, my dad, my brother, and break a joint family.
[02:40:08] brother, and break a joint family. Then we came back.
[02:40:11] Then we came back. Then my father started making little
[02:40:12] Then my father started making little money and then his factory got burned.
[02:40:15] money and then his factory got burned. Like there was fire in the factory. So
[02:40:17] Like there was fire in the factory. So then we lost again. So I I've seen like
[02:40:18] then we lost again. So I I've seen like lot of turmoils.
[02:40:20] lot of turmoils. And I've seen lot of fights in the
[02:40:22] And I've seen lot of fights in the family. And now in last couple of years,
[02:40:26] family. And now in last couple of years, I've seen a lot of abundance where I've
[02:40:28] I've seen a lot of abundance where I've started making a good amount of money.
[02:40:30] started making a good amount of money. My father has started making good amount
[02:40:32] My father has started making good amount of money. We all live a good life where
[02:40:34] of money. We all live a good life where finances no more problem.
[02:40:36] finances no more problem. But still there's some sort of financial
[02:40:38] But still there's some sort of financial insecurity in my head.
[02:40:41] insecurity in my head. And that tells me that I want to make
[02:40:42] And that tells me that I want to make more money.
[02:40:43] more money. And I'm completely honest about it. But
[02:40:46] And I'm completely honest about it. But then
[02:40:48] it's almost like when you say that you
[02:40:52] it's almost like when you say that you want to make more money, people try to
[02:40:54] want to make more money, people try to put guilt on you. It's like am I allowed
[02:40:56] put guilt on you. It's like am I allowed to say that?
[02:40:57] to say that? By doing all the practices that you say,
[02:41:00] By doing all the practices that you say, by doing manifestation, imagining a
[02:41:02] by doing manifestation, imagining a better future for myself, by creating
[02:41:04] better future for myself, by creating the abundant self.
[02:41:06] the abundant self. If I use these techniques and strategies
[02:41:08] If I use these techniques and strategies and everything, the practice and
[02:41:10] and everything, the practice and meditations,
[02:41:12] meditations, if I use these things to attract more
[02:41:15] if I use these things to attract more abundance, is that wrong?
[02:41:18] abundance, is that wrong? Uh I don't think in terms of right and
[02:41:19] Uh I don't think in terms of right and wrong most of the time.
[02:41:21] wrong most of the time. I think that you either believe that
[02:41:24] I think that you either believe that you're the creator of your life or you
[02:41:26] you're the creator of your life or you don't.
[02:41:27] don't. And I really don't care. People come to
[02:41:29] And I really don't care. People come to our work for all kinds of reasons. They
[02:41:32] our work for all kinds of reasons. They come to get healthy or to heal.
[02:41:35] come to get healthy or to heal. They come to become wealthy or abundant.
[02:41:38] They come to become wealthy or abundant. They come for love, a relationship. They
[02:41:41] They come for love, a relationship. They come for a new life, a new career. They
[02:41:43] come for a new life, a new career. They come for a mystical experience. They
[02:41:45] come for a mystical experience. They come for community. It doesn't matter
[02:41:48] come for community. It doesn't matter to me [snorts] what why people come.
[02:41:51] to me [snorts] what why people come. I think
[02:41:52] I think the divine accepts all possibilities,
[02:41:55] the divine accepts all possibilities, right?
[02:41:57] right? But what important What is important is
[02:42:00] But what important What is important is for them to learn how to create.
[02:42:03] for them to learn how to create. And if it's abundance, so be it. If it's
[02:42:05] And if it's abundance, so be it. If it's health, so be it. If it's romance, so be
[02:42:08] health, so be it. If it's romance, so be it. It It doesn't matter.
[02:42:11] it. It It doesn't matter. But what I will tell you
[02:42:13] But what I will tell you that most people who actually create the
[02:42:16] that most people who actually create the life that they want and they finally
[02:42:18] life that they want and they finally reach the life that they want, the first
[02:42:20] reach the life that they want, the first thing they do when they reach that life
[02:42:22] thing they do when they reach that life is they become very generous.
[02:42:24] is they become very generous. They want to give everything that
[02:42:25] They want to give everything that they've worked so hard to create to
[02:42:27] they've worked so hard to create to someone else or make a difference in
[02:42:29] someone else or make a difference in someone else's life, to make a
[02:42:31] someone else's life, to make a difference, to have a vision or a
[02:42:33] difference, to have a vision or a mission or a purpose that's bigger than
[02:42:35] mission or a purpose that's bigger than them. So,
[02:42:38] them. So, what we discovered though is the reason
[02:42:40] what we discovered though is the reason that people really come more than
[02:42:42] that people really come more than anything else is for wholeness.
[02:42:44] anything else is for wholeness. Imagine you feel so whole
[02:42:47] Imagine you feel so whole that you no longer want. Imagine you
[02:42:49] that you no longer want. Imagine you feel so whole that you no longer have
[02:42:51] feel so whole that you no longer have that lack where you feel like you need
[02:42:53] that lack where you feel like you need to make more money. So, wholeness then,
[02:42:57] to make more money. So, wholeness then, how could you want when you feel whole,
[02:42:59] how could you want when you feel whole, right? It's impossible.
[02:43:01] right? It's impossible. And that's kind of a great state to be
[02:43:03] And that's kind of a great state to be in because when you feel whole,
[02:43:05] in because when you feel whole, that's when you no longer have to get up
[02:43:06] that's when you no longer have to get up and work so hard to do something to get
[02:43:09] and work so hard to do something to get what you want. When you feel whole,
[02:43:11] what you want. When you feel whole, somehow
[02:43:13] somehow things come to you, right? Instead of
[02:43:15] things come to you, right? Instead of creating from lack or separation,
[02:43:17] creating from lack or separation, creating from wholeness just shortens
[02:43:19] creating from wholeness just shortens the distance between the thought of what
[02:43:21] the distance between the thought of what you want and the experience of having
[02:43:23] you want and the experience of having it, right? And when you be able when
[02:43:25] it, right? And when you be able when you're shortening those distance
[02:43:26] you're shortening those distance distances, you're you're proving to
[02:43:28] distances, you're you're proving to yourself on some level that you're the
[02:43:29] yourself on some level that you're the creator. Now,
[02:43:31] creator. Now, to answer your first question,
[02:43:34] children and young people that are
[02:43:36] children and young people that are exposed to
[02:43:38] exposed to their environment, which is primarily
[02:43:40] their environment, which is primarily their caregivers, whether it's their
[02:43:41] their caregivers, whether it's their parents or their grandparents,
[02:43:43] parents or their grandparents, we have neurons in our brain called
[02:43:45] we have neurons in our brain called mirror neurons. And mirror neurons are
[02:43:47] mirror neurons. And mirror neurons are empathy neurons. When you feed a baby,
[02:43:50] empathy neurons. When you feed a baby, you kind of pick the spoon up and you go
[02:43:51] you kind of pick the spoon up and you go like this.
[02:43:53] like this. You do that and the baby opens their
[02:43:55] You do that and the baby opens their mouth. You don't think you're doing
[02:43:56] mouth. You don't think you're doing that, but you're doing that, and the
[02:43:58] that, but you're doing that, and the baby's actually modeling your behavior,
[02:44:00] baby's actually modeling your behavior, right? So, that's a fundamentally simple
[02:44:03] right? So, that's a fundamentally simple one.
[02:44:04] one. A lioness
[02:44:05] A lioness who's training her cubs how to hunt,
[02:44:08] who's training her cubs how to hunt, when she's stalking the predator the the
[02:44:11] when she's stalking the predator the the prey,
[02:44:12] prey, the same circuits in the brain
[02:44:14] the same circuits in the brain that the mother is using, the lioness is
[02:44:16] that the mother is using, the lioness is using to stalk the prey, the same
[02:44:18] using to stalk the prey, the same circuits are being primed in the three
[02:44:20] circuits are being primed in the three cubs.
[02:44:21] cubs. They're She's priming the brain for that
[02:44:23] They're She's priming the brain for that behavior, right?
[02:44:26] behavior, right? You're exposed to your parents and you
[02:44:28] You're exposed to your parents and you see a lot of financial hardships, that
[02:44:30] see a lot of financial hardships, that is what's going in.
[02:44:32] is what's going in. The younger you are when that happens,
[02:44:34] The younger you are when that happens, the more it starts to program people
[02:44:36] the more it starts to program people subconsciously. Why? Because when you're
[02:44:38] subconsciously. Why? Because when you're a child, your brain waves are a lot
[02:44:40] a child, your brain waves are a lot slower.
[02:44:41] slower. And, you know, the first the 12 years, 7
[02:44:43] And, you know, the first the 12 years, 7 to 12 years of your life, you're not in
[02:44:45] to 12 years of your life, you're not in beta.
[02:44:47] beta. You're in delta, theta, and alpha. And
[02:44:50] You're in delta, theta, and alpha. And so, there's no
[02:44:52] so, there's no there's no editor. Everything's going in
[02:44:54] there's no editor. Everything's going in without being encoded in any way. It's
[02:44:57] without being encoded in any way. It's just going straight in, right? So,
[02:45:00] just going straight in, right? So, unencoded. Nothing's going in unencoded.
[02:45:02] unencoded. Nothing's going in unencoded. It's all on some level making its way
[02:45:05] It's all on some level making its way subconsciously right back to the, you
[02:45:07] subconsciously right back to the, you know, subconscious mind. So, money is
[02:45:09] know, subconscious mind. So, money is the root of all evil. We never have
[02:45:11] the root of all evil. We never have enough money.
[02:45:13] enough money. We have to work hard to be a success.
[02:45:15] We have to work hard to be a success. That is the information that's going in
[02:45:18] That is the information that's going in subconsciously programming a person. So,
[02:45:21] subconsciously programming a person. So, a person who's exposed to that may make
[02:45:23] a person who's exposed to that may make up their mind and say, "I will never
[02:45:26] up their mind and say, "I will never ever live my life in lack. I don't care
[02:45:29] ever live my life in lack. I don't care if I have to study and get 10 degrees. I
[02:45:32] if I have to study and get 10 degrees. I don't care if what I have to do, but I'm
[02:45:34] don't care if what I have to do, but I'm never going to live like my parents or
[02:45:36] never going to live like my parents or never going to live like in lack like
[02:45:37] never going to live like in lack like that." Other people just go, "This is
[02:45:39] that." Other people just go, "This is normal.
[02:45:41] normal. Uh this is what my reality is, and I
[02:45:43] Uh this is what my reality is, and I can't get any better than this." It's
[02:45:45] can't get any better than this." It's programmed in their subconscious. It
[02:45:46] programmed in their subconscious. It turns out the subconscious mind runs the
[02:45:48] turns out the subconscious mind runs the show, right? So,
[02:45:51] show, right? So, the person may consciously want to be a
[02:45:53] the person may consciously want to be a wealthy or abundant, but they're
[02:45:56] wealthy or abundant, but they're subconsciously programmed into, you
[02:45:58] subconsciously programmed into, you know, the experience of lack, right?
[02:46:01] know, the experience of lack, right? And so, what is what is what is the
[02:46:04] And so, what is what is what is the soul's journey then?
[02:46:06] soul's journey then? You may think, "Oh, the person should
[02:46:07] You may think, "Oh, the person should become abundant then." No.
[02:46:10] become abundant then." No. What it really is is the person should
[02:46:12] What it really is is the person should change the program.
[02:46:14] change the program. And when they change the program from
[02:46:16] And when they change the program from lack, and they're no longer in that
[02:46:18] lack, and they're no longer in that state any longer, the the abundance is
[02:46:21] state any longer, the the abundance is the side effect of their change, right?
[02:46:23] the side effect of their change, right? So,
[02:46:25] So, I have no opinion on abundance. I think
[02:46:27] I have no opinion on abundance. I think everybody should be abundant. But, what
[02:46:30] everybody should be abundant. But, what is your definition of abundance, really?
[02:46:32] is your definition of abundance, really? For me, it's having more than I need.
[02:46:35] For me, it's having more than I need. So much more than I need that when I
[02:46:36] So much more than I need that when I give you something, it's not a big deal,
[02:46:38] give you something, it's not a big deal, cuz I know that I have way more, or I
[02:46:40] cuz I know that I have way more, or I can make more, or create more. So, I
[02:46:42] can make more, or create more. So, I don't have a problem giving. Abundant
[02:46:44] don't have a problem giving. Abundant people
[02:46:45] people do not have a problem giving. Now, some
[02:46:47] do not have a problem giving. Now, some people may have a definition of
[02:46:49] people may have a definition of abundance where they want to be able to
[02:46:51] abundance where they want to be able to do whatever they want
[02:46:53] do whatever they want with whoever they want as many times as
[02:46:55] with whoever they want as many times as they want where you know, wherever they
[02:46:57] they want where you know, wherever they want.
[02:46:58] want. That's totally fine with me, but in time
[02:47:01] That's totally fine with me, but in time if you're truly on the path
[02:47:04] if you're truly on the path your definition will always change,
[02:47:06] your definition will always change, right? And and
[02:47:07] right? And and because
[02:47:09] because you think abundance is just about an
[02:47:10] you think abundance is just about an abundance of money?
[02:47:12] abundance of money? What about abundance of time? What about
[02:47:14] What about abundance of time? What about abundance of freedom? What about of
[02:47:16] abundance of freedom? What about of love? What about abundance of friends?
[02:47:19] love? What about abundance of friends? What about abundance of mystical
[02:47:21] What about abundance of mystical experience, abundance of opportunities?
[02:47:24] experience, abundance of opportunities? You don't money, you need opportunities,
[02:47:26] You don't money, you need opportunities, abundance of synchronicities,
[02:47:28] abundance of synchronicities, abundance of virtue. I mean
[02:47:31] abundance of virtue. I mean we should never limit our definition of
[02:47:33] we should never limit our definition of abundance to just be about financial
[02:47:36] abundance to just be about financial wealth. People say to me, "Well, I I
[02:47:37] wealth. People say to me, "Well, I I have this great idea. I want to create
[02:47:40] have this great idea. I want to create this business, but I don't have any
[02:47:41] this business, but I don't have any money." And I always say to them, "Why
[02:47:42] money." And I always say to them, "Why do you need money?
[02:47:44] do you need money? You need opportunity.
[02:47:45] You need opportunity. What's the opportunity that you need?
[02:47:47] What's the opportunity that you need? Focus on the opportunity, forget the
[02:47:49] Focus on the opportunity, forget the money.
[02:47:50] money. People just have they have it framed in
[02:47:52] People just have they have it framed in a certain way.
[02:47:54] a certain way. And then the last point is is
[02:47:57] And then the last point is is is your relationship with money.
[02:48:01] is your relationship with money. I have a great relationship with money.
[02:48:03] I have a great relationship with money. I've always had a great relationship
[02:48:04] I've always had a great relationship with money. I've always felt like I
[02:48:07] with money. I've always felt like I always felt like I could create money.
[02:48:09] always felt like I could create money. It's never a thing for me.
[02:48:11] It's never a thing for me. But I have a good relationship with
[02:48:12] But I have a good relationship with money cuz I'm really clear. And then
[02:48:15] money cuz I'm really clear. And then what I want to do more than anything
[02:48:16] what I want to do more than anything else is I want to be loyal
[02:48:19] else is I want to be loyal to the people that are loyal to me.
[02:48:21] to the people that are loyal to me. My team, my staff
[02:48:24] My team, my staff I grow, you grow. That's my I want
[02:48:26] I grow, you grow. That's my I want everybody around me to love their job.
[02:48:30] everybody around me to love their job. I want my children to feel like they
[02:48:32] I want my children to feel like they have more than they need. They're adults
[02:48:34] have more than they need. They're adults now.
[02:48:35] now. But I don't want them I I want them to
[02:48:37] But I don't want them I I want them to understand how to create that.
[02:48:40] understand how to create that. And I want and I want to be able to have
[02:48:42] And I want and I want to be able to have people who love their job and work for
[02:48:44] people who love their job and work for me
[02:48:45] me share the same mission and vision. Like
[02:48:47] share the same mission and vision. Like we're making a difference in the world.
[02:48:48] we're making a difference in the world. Like that's that's a vision that's
[02:48:50] Like that's that's a vision that's bigger than me. Like it's not about me
[02:48:52] bigger than me. Like it's not about me any longer. It's I never want this to be
[02:48:54] any longer. It's I never want this to be about me. I want it to be about you. I
[02:48:56] about me. I want it to be about you. I want you to prove to yourself that you
[02:48:58] want you to prove to yourself that you can do it. And when [snorts] you arrive
[02:49:00] can do it. And when [snorts] you arrive there, the first thing you're going to
[02:49:01] there, the first thing you're going to do is you're going to go into your
[02:49:02] do is you're going to go into your parents' home and you're going to say,
[02:49:04] parents' home and you're going to say, "Take this."
[02:49:06] "Take this." And then you're going to go and see your
[02:49:07] And then you're going to go and see your your family and say, "I want to I want
[02:49:09] your family and say, "I want to I want to do this for you." And that's exactly
[02:49:11] to do this for you." And that's exactly what abundant people do. I've watched it
[02:49:12] what abundant people do. I've watched it happen.
[02:49:13] happen. People in our community that were
[02:49:15] People in our community that were bankrupt,
[02:49:17] bankrupt, that were running from the authorities,
[02:49:19] that were running from the authorities, that came out of jail, that didn't have
[02:49:22] that came out of jail, that didn't have $2 to rub together. They said words they
[02:49:24] $2 to rub together. They said words they all used.
[02:49:27] You know, multi-million dollar, you
[02:49:29] You know, multi-million dollar, you know, people right now. I was at a
[02:49:31] know, people right now. I was at a restaurant with one of them. Uh
[02:49:34] restaurant with one of them. Uh this guy was
[02:49:36] this guy was in trouble. He was running.
[02:49:38] in trouble. He was running. And he just had huge change. He created
[02:49:41] And he just had huge change. He created all this abundance and he was wearing
[02:49:43] all this abundance and he was wearing this beautiful gold and diamond necklace
[02:49:45] this beautiful gold and diamond necklace and the waiter
[02:49:46] and the waiter was watching him the whole time.
[02:49:49] was watching him the whole time. At the end of the meal, he took the the
[02:49:51] At the end of the meal, he took the the necklace off and he handed it to the
[02:49:52] necklace off and he handed it to the waiter.
[02:49:54] waiter. He just winked at him. The waiter was
[02:49:55] He just winked at him. The waiter was freaked out. And I looked at him and
[02:49:57] freaked out. And I looked at him and said,
[02:49:59] said, "I
[02:50:00] "I I created another one. Like what's the
[02:50:01] I created another one. Like what's the big deal?" Like what is the big deal,
[02:50:03] big deal?" Like what is the big deal, right? So,
[02:50:04] right? So, >> [gasps]
[02:50:04] >> [gasps] >> your definition of abundance should
[02:50:06] >> your definition of abundance should never stop evolving as you evolve.
[02:50:10] never stop evolving as you evolve. And so, frame it in a way that's
[02:50:13] And so, frame it in a way that's inclusive.
[02:50:14] inclusive. Frame it in a way that like everybody
[02:50:17] Frame it in a way that like everybody that's created abundance in our work,
[02:50:19] that's created abundance in our work, they realize like,
[02:50:20] they realize like, "Oh my god, I just thought it was about
[02:50:22] "Oh my god, I just thought it was about money." No, no, no, no.
[02:50:24] money." No, no, no, no. When I started thinking about the what I
[02:50:26] When I started thinking about the what I wanted to create for everybody, it was
[02:50:29] wanted to create for everybody, it was no longer
[02:50:30] no longer the a selfish motivation.
[02:50:33] the a selfish motivation. The highest form of motivation is duty
[02:50:35] The highest form of motivation is duty motivation or mission motivation where
[02:50:38] motivation or mission motivation where you're you're considering the whole
[02:50:39] you're you're considering the whole making a difference and just it's not
[02:50:41] making a difference and just it's not about you.
[02:50:43] about you. When you get up in the morning and you
[02:50:45] When you get up in the morning and you have a mission
[02:50:46] have a mission it's very different than when you get up
[02:50:48] it's very different than when you get up in the morning and you have to make
[02:50:49] in the morning and you have to make money.
[02:50:50] money. You
[02:50:51] You I'll tell you the definition I have
[02:50:55] I'll tell you the definition I have with the abundance.
[02:50:58] I almost have sometimes I think about
[02:51:01] I almost have sometimes I think about I've created this where
[02:51:04] I've created this where I give a lot
[02:51:06] I give a lot to my parents, to my family, to the
[02:51:08] to my parents, to my family, to the people who are working with me and I'm
[02:51:10] people who are working with me and I'm but then I also take that as a duty and
[02:51:12] but then I also take that as a duty and a responsibility that I need to be
[02:51:14] a responsibility that I need to be working so much and I need to create so
[02:51:18] working so much and I need to create so much more so that I can
[02:51:20] much more so that I can probably give it to more people and help
[02:51:22] probably give it to more people and help more people.
[02:51:24] more people. And
[02:51:25] And it's almost like
[02:51:27] it's almost like it's constant battle where one side I'm
[02:51:29] it's constant battle where one side I'm like I'm doing it for people and it's
[02:51:32] like I'm doing it for people and it's good that I'm I'm creating more wealth
[02:51:33] good that I'm I'm creating more wealth for everybody around me and then at the
[02:51:35] for everybody around me and then at the same time I'm like
[02:51:39] like if if not me then who will do it? Yeah.
[02:51:42] if if not me then who will do it? Yeah. And I think I think that
[02:51:44] And I think I think that um you'll evolve with that. I mean I'm a
[02:51:46] um you'll evolve with that. I mean I'm a very generous person.
[02:51:48] very generous person. But I also I only will uh I I only will
[02:51:51] But I also I only will uh I I only will do it when I feel like the person is
[02:51:53] do it when I feel like the person is ready
[02:51:54] ready or they're they they appreciate it. Uh
[02:51:56] or they're they they appreciate it. Uh and and I think the greatest form of
[02:51:58] and and I think the greatest form of gratitude
[02:52:00] gratitude that you'll ever ever receive in your
[02:52:02] that you'll ever ever receive in your life is when you receive gratitude from
[02:52:04] life is when you receive gratitude from somebody else. That's the greatest
[02:52:05] somebody else. That's the greatest feeling when you a person is authentic
[02:52:08] feeling when you a person is authentic and goes my god you changed my life.
[02:52:10] and goes my god you changed my life. Mhm.
[02:52:11] Mhm. So I think there's timing
[02:52:13] So I think there's timing and there's order
[02:52:15] and there's order and you need to you know there's a kind
[02:52:17] and you need to you know there's a kind of a moment where you know.
[02:52:19] of a moment where you know. And uh because I think human nature then
[02:52:21] And uh because I think human nature then people become dependent on people who
[02:52:24] people become dependent on people who give and then that doesn't feel good any
[02:52:27] give and then that doesn't feel good any longer. So
[02:52:28] longer. So I think you're young enough and you know
[02:52:30] I think you're young enough and you know open enough where you've created a
[02:52:32] open enough where you've created a certain amount, but I think your
[02:52:34] certain amount, but I think your discernment and knowing when to do that
[02:52:37] discernment and knowing when to do that and who to do it with will just continue
[02:52:39] and who to do it with will just continue to evolve because sometimes it's not
[02:52:41] to evolve because sometimes it's not about family. Sometimes it's just
[02:52:43] about family. Sometimes it's just finding somebody on the street and just
[02:52:44] finding somebody on the street and just saying, "Hey, come on, let me just buy
[02:52:46] saying, "Hey, come on, let me just buy you a cup of coffee and feed you." Like
[02:52:49] you a cup of coffee and feed you." Like I think those like when I study
[02:52:51] I think those like when I study near-death experiences,
[02:52:53] near-death experiences, when people review their life,
[02:52:55] when people review their life, the most important things that they say
[02:52:59] the most important things that they say are not the amount of money they make or
[02:53:01] are not the amount of money they make or any of that stuff. It's just that moment
[02:53:02] any of that stuff. It's just that moment where they changed someone's life. Where
[02:53:04] where they changed someone's life. Where that person was struggling and they just
[02:53:06] that person was struggling and they just said the right thing or did something
[02:53:08] said the right thing or did something for them at the right time and they saw
[02:53:10] for them at the right time and they saw that how that changed that person and
[02:53:12] that how that changed that person and how it changed how they were with their
[02:53:13] how it changed how they were with their children and how the children changed
[02:53:16] children and how the children changed and how their timelines changed and
[02:53:18] and how their timelines changed and everything changed because of that
[02:53:19] everything changed because of that moment. So,
[02:53:20] moment. So, I think it works in mysterious ways,
[02:53:22] I think it works in mysterious ways, right? It doesn't only have to be with
[02:53:24] right? It doesn't only have to be with taking care of the people that we love
[02:53:26] taking care of the people that we love >> [sighs and gasps]
[02:53:27] >> [sighs and gasps] >> because if we're doing it out of
[02:53:28] >> because if we're doing it out of obligation or we're doing it for any
[02:53:31] obligation or we're doing it for any other reason than to truly give, I think
[02:53:33] other reason than to truly give, I think it'll ultimately change you. Do you
[02:53:36] it'll ultimately change you. Do you think top 0.01%
[02:53:39] think top 0.01% people who are the top athletes, the
[02:53:41] people who are the top athletes, the World Cup champions, the Olympic
[02:53:43] World Cup champions, the Olympic winners, the the entrepreneurs, the
[02:53:45] winners, the the entrepreneurs, the multi-billionaires,
[02:53:48] multi-billionaires, do you think these people they go to
[02:53:51] do you think these people they go to retreats like these, practice gratitude,
[02:53:55] retreats like these, practice gratitude, Yeah.
[02:53:55] Yeah. >> meditation and stuff like that?
[02:53:56] >> meditation and stuff like that? >> for a fact. Absolutely. Or do are they
[02:53:59] >> for a fact. Absolutely. Or do are they like wired differently to just keep sort
[02:54:01] like wired differently to just keep sort of winning certain thing and be obsessed
[02:54:03] of winning certain thing and be obsessed with what they have and don't even care
[02:54:05] with what they have and don't even care about all of these things?
[02:54:05] about all of these things? >> It's very difficult to categorize
[02:54:07] >> It's very difficult to categorize at this point.
[02:54:09] at this point. Mhm, but I will tell you I've sat with
[02:54:11] Mhm, but I will tell you I've sat with billionaires more than one.
[02:54:14] billionaires more than one. And the first line they said to me is,
[02:54:16] And the first line they said to me is, "We are miserable.
[02:54:17] "We are miserable. We are in agony. We are We can't even
[02:54:20] We are in agony. We are We can't even enjoy a sunset."
[02:54:22] enjoy a sunset." And I have sat with professional
[02:54:25] And I have sat with professional athletes that have come to our work that
[02:54:26] athletes that have come to our work that a standard of excellence that is so high
[02:54:31] a standard of excellence that is so high and so precise and they're still unhappy
[02:54:33] and so precise and they're still unhappy in their life and I say take that same
[02:54:35] in their life and I say take that same discipline and turn it in on you.
[02:54:38] discipline and turn it in on you. Turn it in on you. Not like not like
[02:54:41] Turn it in on you. Not like not like your craft. Not like your sport, but
[02:54:44] your craft. Not like your sport, but turn this turn that in on you. When I
[02:54:47] turn this turn that in on you. When I tell you to open your heart when you get
[02:54:48] tell you to open your heart when you get your brain organized.
[02:54:49] your brain organized. >> [gasps]
[02:54:50] >> [gasps] >> Take what you've you've developed in
[02:54:52] >> Take what you've you've developed in terms of great habits and skills to get
[02:54:55] terms of great habits and skills to get you where you are
[02:54:57] you where you are and now
[02:54:58] and now turn it in on you and make yourself a
[02:55:00] turn it in on you and make yourself a work of art. Make yourself your [snorts]
[02:55:02] work of art. Make yourself your [snorts] project.
[02:55:04] project. I've
[02:55:06] I've I've I've interviewed like a lot of
[02:55:08] I've I've interviewed like a lot of these people
[02:55:09] these people and
[02:55:10] and I asked them these questions and and a
[02:55:12] I asked them these questions and and a lot of them believe in visualization.
[02:55:15] lot of them believe in visualization. But almost nobody has talked about
[02:55:18] But almost nobody has talked about anything beyond that.
[02:55:20] anything beyond that. Is that a Is there a reason they don't
[02:55:21] Is that a Is there a reason they don't talk about it or is there Do you think
[02:55:23] talk about it or is there Do you think they don't do it? Are you talking about
[02:55:25] they don't do it? Are you talking about athletes or just anybody?
[02:55:26] athletes or just anybody? >> Just anybody who who's it like top 0.01%
[02:55:29] >> Just anybody who who's it like top 0.01% of their game, whatever game they're
[02:55:30] of their game, whatever game they're playing. Yeah, I think the majority of
[02:55:32] playing. Yeah, I think the majority of those people spend a certain amount of
[02:55:34] those people spend a certain amount of time alone
[02:55:36] time alone which I think is so healthy. I'm I spend
[02:55:38] which I think is so healthy. I'm I spend a lot of time alone. I need that.
[02:55:41] a lot of time alone. I need that. Uh cuz the rest of the time I'm serving.
[02:55:44] Uh cuz the rest of the time I'm serving. And they're always learning
[02:55:47] And they're always learning and always going back breaking down what
[02:55:49] and always going back breaking down what they've done
[02:55:51] they've done and going at it again. Like rebuilding
[02:55:53] and going at it again. Like rebuilding it again. They have a model and they
[02:55:55] it again. They have a model and they just say you know, I've done this really
[02:55:57] just say you know, I've done this really well.
[02:55:58] well. How am I going to get to the next level
[02:56:00] How am I going to get to the next level for me? Okay, it's no longer about who
[02:56:02] for me? Okay, it's no longer about who I'm competing against.
[02:56:04] I'm competing against. It's about me, right? So if you look at
[02:56:06] It's about me, right? So if you look at just use a professional athlete as an
[02:56:08] just use a professional athlete as an example.
[02:56:09] example. You You have a professional athlete run
[02:56:12] You You have a professional athlete run a 40-m dash or 40-yd dash. The majority
[02:56:15] a 40-m dash or 40-yd dash. The majority of them run pretty much pretty close to
[02:56:17] of them run pretty much pretty close to the same speed.
[02:56:19] the same speed. But what makes that very small
[02:56:21] But what makes that very small percentage of a professional athlete
[02:56:23] percentage of a professional athlete great
[02:56:25] great is their mind.
[02:56:26] is their mind. It's just that willingness to stay a
[02:56:28] It's just that willingness to stay a little longer,
[02:56:30] little longer, go a little go again, work it out, not
[02:56:34] go a little go again, work it out, not get frustrated.
[02:56:35] get frustrated. The athlete
[02:56:37] The athlete who loves the game,
[02:56:39] who loves the game, like really loves the game. When they
[02:56:42] like really loves the game. When they have a great shot,
[02:56:43] have a great shot, they love the game.
[02:56:45] they love the game. When they have a bad shot, they just
[02:56:47] When they have a bad shot, they just say,
[02:56:48] say, "Uh, I still love the game. All right,
[02:56:50] "Uh, I still love the game. All right, I'm going to try again." Like they don't
[02:56:52] I'm going to try again." Like they don't they don't undermine themselves with a
[02:56:54] they don't undermine themselves with a bad attitude or a reaction. And that's
[02:56:57] bad attitude or a reaction. And that's been cultured in them.
[02:56:59] been cultured in them. And so, what comes with that is a lot of
[02:57:01] And so, what comes with that is a lot of humility, all right? Instead of
[02:57:04] humility, all right? Instead of arrogance. What comes with that is a
[02:57:06] arrogance. What comes with that is a certain level of self-awareness. Yeah.
[02:57:09] certain level of self-awareness. Yeah. Um, what comes with that
[02:57:12] Um, what comes with that is an uncompromising will.
[02:57:14] is an uncompromising will. What comes with that is understanding
[02:57:16] What comes with that is understanding that you have to put in your time. You
[02:57:18] that you have to put in your time. You have to put in your time.
[02:57:20] have to put in your time. And where where you may want may want to
[02:57:23] And where where you may want may want to stop, may not be the point to stop, all
[02:57:25] stop, may not be the point to stop, all right? There's just that next level. And
[02:57:27] right? There's just that next level. And we've all done this in our life, where
[02:57:29] we've all done this in our life, where you're just like, "I'm not satisfied. I
[02:57:31] you're just like, "I'm not satisfied. I got to go again." Yeah. And I I think
[02:57:34] got to go again." Yeah. And I I think that's how people uh heal also. It's the
[02:57:36] that's how people uh heal also. It's the same thing. It's the same principles at
[02:57:39] same thing. It's the same principles at work.
[02:57:41] work. True.
[02:57:42] True. Okay, here's my last question. It is It
[02:57:44] Okay, here's my last question. It is It was lovely talking to you. If
[02:57:46] was lovely talking to you. If if somebody's watching this right now,
[02:57:48] if somebody's watching this right now, wherever they are, in maybe a good state
[02:57:51] wherever they are, in maybe a good state or a miserable state,
[02:57:54] or a miserable state, if
[02:57:55] if you want them to just pick up one
[02:57:57] you want them to just pick up one conversation or one thing from this
[02:57:59] conversation or one thing from this entire podcast, what would it be? And
[02:58:02] entire podcast, what would it be? And what would you want them to feel? Not
[02:58:04] what would you want them to feel? Not think, not believe. What do you want
[02:58:06] think, not believe. What do you want them to feel after listening to this
[02:58:07] them to feel after listening to this conversation?
[02:58:09] conversation? Uh, maybe like nothing changes in our
[02:58:11] Uh, maybe like nothing changes in our life until we change.
[02:58:14] life until we change. And change is the most constant thing in
[02:58:16] And change is the most constant thing in the universe.
[02:58:18] the universe. And you could either wait for the
[02:58:20] And you could either wait for the crisis, the trauma, the diagnosis to
[02:58:23] crisis, the trauma, the diagnosis to change, you know, when you're at your
[02:58:25] change, you know, when you're at your lowest level. You can learn and change
[02:58:27] lowest level. You can learn and change in a state of pain and suffering, or you
[02:58:29] in a state of pain and suffering, or you can learn and change in a state of joy
[02:58:30] can learn and change in a state of joy and inspiration.
[02:58:32] and inspiration. Either way, the the model is that when
[02:58:35] Either way, the the model is that when you change, your life changes. So,
[02:58:37] you change, your life changes. So, >> [snorts]
[02:58:38] >> [snorts] >> if you can invest a little time in your
[02:58:41] >> if you can invest a little time in your life in asking yourself the important
[02:58:44] life in asking yourself the important question, "Who do I want to be
[02:58:47] question, "Who do I want to be in my life? How do I want to live my
[02:58:49] in my life? How do I want to live my life? What do I want in my life?"
[02:58:51] life? What do I want in my life?" Instead of turning on your cell phone
[02:58:54] Instead of turning on your cell phone and getting distracted.
[02:58:55] and getting distracted. Discipline yourself to take an hour to
[02:58:57] Discipline yourself to take an hour to answer those questions. Write it down,
[02:59:01] answer those questions. Write it down, review it, change it, get very clear on
[02:59:03] review it, change it, get very clear on it, and spend a certain amount of time
[02:59:05] it, and spend a certain amount of time nurturing whatever that dream is. Think
[02:59:08] nurturing whatever that dream is. Think of the people in your life that you
[02:59:10] of the people in your life that you admire,
[02:59:11] admire, and start behaving differently. Start
[02:59:14] and start behaving differently. Start making different choices. Think about
[02:59:15] making different choices. Think about the choices that they may make and how
[02:59:18] the choices that they may make and how you may want to make those choices.
[02:59:20] you may want to make those choices. >> [gasps]
[02:59:20] >> [gasps] >> And then and then at a certain level,
[02:59:22] >> And then and then at a certain level, you got to trust the unknown.
[02:59:24] you got to trust the unknown. Because
[02:59:25] Because for most people, it's a scary place, but
[02:59:27] for most people, it's a scary place, but the unknown never lets us down,
[02:59:29] the unknown never lets us down, especially if we have to believe in
[02:59:31] especially if we have to believe in ourselves. So, I don't think anybody is
[02:59:34] ourselves. So, I don't think anybody is so special
[02:59:35] so special to be excluded from this. You can't tell
[02:59:38] to be excluded from this. You can't tell me you're too old to do this work. I've
[02:59:40] me you're too old to do this work. I've seen our elders with beautiful brain
[02:59:41] seen our elders with beautiful brain scans and beautiful heart scans,
[02:59:43] scans and beautiful heart scans, beautiful biological changes. You can't
[02:59:45] beautiful biological changes. You can't tell me you're too sick to do this work.
[02:59:47] tell me you're too sick to do this work. I've seen really sick people heal from
[02:59:49] I've seen really sick people heal from all kinds of conditions.
[02:59:51] all kinds of conditions. Or you can't tell me you're too broke.
[02:59:52] Or you can't tell me you're too broke. I've seen people manifest all kinds of
[02:59:55] I've seen people manifest all kinds of wealth in their life.
[02:59:56] wealth in their life. Um
[02:59:57] Um you can't tell me that you never
[02:59:59] you can't tell me that you never meditated before. I've seen people that
[03:00:01] meditated before. I've seen people that never meditate before have beautiful
[03:00:03] never meditate before have beautiful changes in their biology and in their
[03:00:05] changes in their biology and in their life.
[03:00:07] life. And you know, you you can't even say
[03:00:09] And you know, you you can't even say I've had a miserable past or my life is
[03:00:11] I've had a miserable past or my life is falling apart and it'll never ever work
[03:00:14] falling apart and it'll never ever work cuz I've seen people come from really,
[03:00:16] cuz I've seen people come from really, really horrific pasts and and
[03:00:19] really horrific pasts and and live a completely different life. So,
[03:00:21] live a completely different life. So, try it out. Like, try it out. Just
[03:00:25] try it out. Like, try it out. Just dedicate a certain amount of time to
[03:00:27] dedicate a certain amount of time to investing in yourself and and believing
[03:00:29] investing in yourself and and believing in yourself and and and be defined by
[03:00:33] in yourself and and and be defined by that vision of your future instead of
[03:00:35] that vision of your future instead of the
[03:00:36] the the memories of the past and make time
[03:00:38] the memories of the past and make time to tell the story of your future instead
[03:00:40] to tell the story of your future instead of the story of your past. And and see
[03:00:42] of the story of your past. And and see where that leads you. One coincidence,
[03:00:45] where that leads you. One coincidence, one synchronicity, one opportunity is
[03:00:47] one synchronicity, one opportunity is going to prove to you that you're the
[03:00:48] going to prove to you that you're the creator of your life.
[03:00:50] creator of your life. Thank you so much.
[03:00:51] Thank you so much. >> You're welcome.
[03:00:52] >> You're welcome. >> Thank you so much for doing this.
[03:00:54] >> Thank you so much for doing this. Um
[03:00:55] Um thank you so much for doing the work
[03:00:56] thank you so much for doing the work which is
[03:00:58] which is impacting millions of lives.
[03:01:00] impacting millions of lives. And there are so many people who are
[03:01:02] And there are so many people who are seeing magic happen because of what you
[03:01:05] seeing magic happen because of what you teach and what you do. So, thank you so
[03:01:07] teach and what you do. So, thank you so much for keep doing it.
[03:01:09] much for keep doing it. And I just want to say this that
[03:01:12] And I just want to say this that maybe during the conversation I must
[03:01:14] maybe during the conversation I must have felt like a cynic at some point,
[03:01:16] have felt like a cynic at some point, but I'm a big believer of visualization.
[03:01:18] but I'm a big believer of visualization. I'm a big believer of creating your new
[03:01:21] I'm a big believer of creating your new reality. I sit down with myself very
[03:01:23] reality. I sit down with myself very often, almost every day,
[03:01:25] often, almost every day, where I think about how I'm going to
[03:01:28] where I think about how I'm going to create my future and what that reality
[03:01:31] create my future and what that reality looks like. In fact, before every
[03:01:32] looks like. In fact, before every podcast, I was almost rehearsing in my
[03:01:34] podcast, I was almost rehearsing in my own brain, and I could see you doing
[03:01:36] own brain, and I could see you doing certain things like snapshot and all of
[03:01:38] certain things like snapshot and all of that, and it happened in
[03:01:41] that, and it happened in Thank you so much for doing this. I'm
[03:01:43] Thank you so much for doing this. I'm I'm a big believer of visualization. It
[03:01:45] I'm a big believer of visualization. It has impacted my life a lot. No, of
[03:01:46] has impacted my life a lot. No, of course you are. I mean, you're the
[03:01:48] course you are. I mean, you're the example of it. I think you're you were
[03:01:50] example of it. I think you're you were speaking to the critics
[03:01:52] speaking to the critics yeah, that really will argue for their
[03:01:54] yeah, that really will argue for their limitations on some level, and it's
[03:01:57] limitations on some level, and it's healthy to do that because
[03:01:59] healthy to do that because I'm a practical person. Like, my my
[03:02:02] I'm a practical person. Like, my my mother was a very practical person.
[03:02:04] mother was a very practical person. And
[03:02:05] And yeah, it's it it has to be practical. It
[03:02:08] yeah, it's it it has to be practical. It has to you have to on some level
[03:02:10] has to you have to on some level understand that that it could possibly
[03:02:13] understand that that it could possibly be the truth. And what if it was the
[03:02:15] be the truth. And what if it was the truth? Like, what if it was the truth
[03:02:18] truth? Like, what if it was the truth that you could create your life or or
[03:02:20] that you could create your life or or you could uncreate something in your
[03:02:22] you could uncreate something in your life and recreate something else in your
[03:02:23] life and recreate something else in your life. What if it's the truth? So, I I
[03:02:26] life. What if it's the truth? So, I I appreciate that. I understand why you do
[03:02:28] appreciate that. I understand why you do it and and I I'm aware that you are.
[03:02:30] it and and I I'm aware that you are. Thank you so much.
[03:02:31] Thank you so much. >> Hey, God. It's nice to meet you.
[03:02:33] >> Hey, God. It's nice to meet you. >> He's gone and come here.
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