# DAY ONE - Preliminary Hearing and Andrew Kolvet Crash Outs - Ep 140

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcy3wjjTeQo

[00:00] Welcome in.
[00:02] Welcome in.
[00:04] Welcome in, guys.
[00:09] We've had a never-ending crash out today from Andrew Kovette.
[00:12] Yes, a neverending crash out.
[00:14] I don't know if you got to see it.
[00:16] I don't know if his job's in jeopardy, if his liberty's in jeopardy.
[00:20] I have no idea what's going on with this guy.
[00:21] I have rarely if ever seen a PR professional crash out like Mr. Kovette has done over the last, um, I don't know, 18 hours or so.
[00:32] It's been bad.
[00:35] It's been really, really bad.
[00:38] Um, you know, hardcore drinkers do this when they get a little out of control.
[00:40] They get manic.
[00:42] Drug users sometimes do this.
[00:44] I'm not accusing him of either.
[00:46] He might just be undisciplined.
[00:48] But we will examine that as the time arises to do so.
[00:52] Um, but welcome in, welcome in, welcome in.
[00:54] We're going to have a big, big show today.
[00:55] Like many of you, I spent a good chunk of the day reviewing.
[01:01] The preliminary hearing from Utah.
[01:03] I had one goal in mind.
[01:07] I wanted to scale the mountain.
[01:09] I was promised a mountain of evidence.
[01:11] I was told there would be mountains of evidence.
[01:13] There's a mountain of evidence.
[01:15] I didn't see the mountain.
[01:17] If I'm being honest, I saw no mountain.
[01:19] I saw grainy footage.
[01:21] I saw hearsay.
[01:22] I saw I didn't say it, but he said I saw a lot of trust me, bro.
[01:24] I saw no mountains.
[01:26] I don't know when the mountains are coming.
[01:28] Maybe they're small mountains.
[01:31] Uh maybe we're quite literally making mountains out of mole hills.
[01:36] Um, but I'll be honest, uh, not only did the government not show anything that would even approach reasonable doubt at a regular trial, I think if the judge had to rule based on today alone, how could you even how could you even find that it continues onto a trial?
[01:53] I mean, that was ludicrous.
[01:55] And we will go through some of it.
[01:56] We'll go through some of it.
[01:57] Uh, including cameras not working.
[01:59] Well, tell me, stop.
[02:01] Me if you've heard this one before.
[02:03] Uh, next thing you're going to tell me is that uh Jeffrey uh uh Einstein's camera stopped working in the in the Manhattan Correctional Center facility right as he took his own life.
[02:13] Oh.
[02:13] Oh.
[02:14] Next thing you're going to tell me is the camera above Tyler Robinson while he was eating a steak at the Penguin Steakhouse that stopped.
[02:20] Oh, yeah.
[02:21] Both of those things are true as well.
[02:23] And the cop's body cam stopped working.
[02:25] Guys, there's a bunch we've got to go through.
[02:27] There's a bunch we got to go through.
[02:28] I do want to set the stage.
[02:30] It is day one and I've kind of shied away from trial coverage or or I don't want to say trial coverage because pretty much a lot of what we've done the last 10 months has been preparation for the trial, but I I've shied away from kind of a blowby-blow of daily court hearings and I'm going to violate that a little bit today.
[02:46] Um because I thought there were several interesting things that needed to be covered.
[02:50] So, we will start at the beginning uh and we will work our way through.
[02:54] I have a good opening that I did not I kind of been holding it in the tank.
[02:57] I wasn't sure when I wanted to do this opening, but today was the day.
[03:01] Today was the day we had the Covette.
[03:03] Crash out that necessitated the opening.
[03:05] But we also had Stacy Sheridan and her two girls show up.
[03:11] Well, that was kind of harsh perhaps, but Stacy Sheridan showed up for the trial.
[03:18] She, all of her, showed up for the trial and all, and very little of it was covered.
[03:23] Um, and so she sort of had handler vibes.
[03:26] Andrew Kovat all day has basically admitted to having handler vibes.
[03:30] And so it was the perfect day to talk about handlers, particularly handlers, uh, when it comes to assets that don't know they're being handled.
[03:41] This is something specific to the spycraft uh, arena, but it is not rare.
[03:48] It happens quite a bit and today seems like a perfect day to talk about it because in the terms of spycraft, a handler is someone who directs an operation and they do it on behalf of a principal.
[04:01] Rarely is the handler the...
[04:04] The organization that wants something done.
[04:06] They usually hire some sort of an in between.
[04:08] Uh, it's typically an intelligence agency, but it can be any kind of an organization.
[04:13] The person being controlled by the handler is called an asset.
[04:19] And it's entirely possible and in fact it's quite operationally common for someone to function as a handler while the asset remains completely or largely unaware he's being handled.
[04:33] In these scenarios, the agency or the organization still treats the interaction as a managed intelligence operation, but externally it relies on deception.
[04:41] It relies on intermediaries and it's accomplished through manipulation, sometimes subtle manipulation.
[04:50] The asset in this situation that we're talking about where the handler is not known to be a handler from the perspective of the asset, it's sometimes called an unconscious agent or a floater or an unwitting asset.
[05:01] And
[05:05] What we have here is an unwitting asset in this situation that will provide valuable information and perform useful actions all while not realizing they're assisting any kind of intelligence service or any other kind of organization.
[05:21] For example, an unwitting asset might believe he's talking to a journalist.
[05:27] He might believe he's talking to an employee or an employer.
[05:31] He might believe he's talking to some sort of a consultant or even a romantic interest.
[05:37] The unwitting asset believes his interactions with a handler are benign, nothing more than participating in some kind of normal professional or personal relationship.
[05:48] But because the handler is working with an unwitting asset, the handler then extracts information and they do it through a series of elicitation techniques rather than direct questioning.
[05:58] You know, in a typical spy situation, you would just sit the asset down and say, "What'd you learn today?"
[06:04] Well, you can't do that if the asset is an unwitting asset.
[06:08] So, these subtle conversational methods rely on the exploitation of human psychology and it can happen through a number of techniques.
[06:15] Uh, the handler can flatter the unwitting asset and that happens.
[06:21] You know, you praise his expertise.
[06:22] You encourage him to share more.
[06:24] You really build him up.
[06:26] You just gas him up and the asset just loves it.
[06:29] Most people cannot resist flattery.
[06:31] The handler can share exciting or interesting information and the handler will share a small piece of information and hopefully that will trigger the unwitting asset to reciprocate in a big way and really divulge a great deal of information.
[06:47] The handler might make provocative or false statements even about a topic and then the unwitting asset cannot resist the urge to correct the record.
[06:57] That's the best way to get the truth on any kind of social media is to make an incorrect statement.
[07:00] People will fall all over themselves to correct you and then you get your answer.
[07:05] But if you just ask for the answer, it goes unheard.
[07:06] No one gives it.
[07:08] You go rip.
[07:08] So you.
[07:11] Pretend to have this limited knowledge, and it can warm up the unwitting asset to give better explanations, detailed explanations.
[07:19] And then there's everyone's favorite trap.
[07:20] It is so irresistible.
[07:21] It's probably more irresistible than flattery, and that's gossip.
[07:25] A handler can build quite a bit of rapport with an unwitting asset through gossiping about some juicy topics.
[07:34] And these techniques are often deployed and they're ongoing.
[07:41] They sometimes last years, sometimes decades.
[07:44] And that way, the target never really feels interrogated.
[07:46] Handler relationships can be pretty complex.
[07:48] Sometimes they use cutouts or layers of separation might be employed.
[07:52] And that ensures the handler remains available if the unwitting asset cuts off the relationship or starts to move in different circles.
[08:01] A handler may never meet the asset directly.
[08:04] Instead, the handler may use intermediaries who they themselves may be witting or unwitting assets.
[08:12] Organizations can use these unwitting assets for a lot of reasons.
[08:17] There is frankly a lower operational risk and there's a reduced chance of the asset defecting or being turned if the asset doesn't know he's an asset.
[08:26] It's also clean, very clean.
[08:28] It's cleaner for the handler.
[08:29] It's cleaner for the handler's organization because it gives them plausible deniability if the operation is exposed or go south.
[08:36] And there are some people, perhaps most people, who just won't accept the role of being an asset.
[08:41] It's a little deceptive.
[08:43] And so using unwitting assets gives handlers access to all these targets who would never knowingly work with intelligence communities or even some other organization who wants to exploit them or use them.
[08:56] But internally from the perspective of the organization, there's not a lot of difference whether using a witting or unwitting asset.
[09:02] The handler still validates the asset.
[09:04] The handler still tasks the asset with accomplishing certain objectives.
[09:08] And the handler still reports the intelligence up the chain.
[09:10] The asset's simply unaware of the.
[09:12] Full context.
[09:15] The asset doesn't know the handler's true affiliation or role.
[09:18] And because we're talking about sensitive operations, detailed examples are pretty sparse, but they're known.
[09:25] Uh we have clear patterns.
[09:26] We have documented cases, particularly during the Cold War.
[09:30] Uh and there's some examples from modern corporate espionage.
[09:31] But this is the spy craft.
[09:34] This is a trade craft that's taught in the community.
[09:36] During the cold war, for example, both the West and the Soviets, they extensively used unwitting assets.
[09:44] They sometimes refer to these unwitting assets as useful idiots.
[09:46] These useful idiots were nothing more than individuals going about their ordinary lives, but who either advanced a cause or maybe shared information without realizing they were being manipulated.
[09:59] The KGB ran very sophisticated active measures and they would plant disinformation and they would do it in obscure publications and they were using unwitting journalists or activists and then they would amplify.
[10:14] Those messages in the mainstream media.
[10:17] There was a guy named Oleg Kugan, a former KGB officer, who described operations that exploited genuine social grievances in the United States.
[10:27] Things like racial tensions or equal rights for women.
[10:29] They would forge documents or letters.
[10:33] They would inflame divisions and they would know that unwitting reporters and activists would spread the material.
[10:37] They couldn't help themselves.
[10:39] It advanced their cause.
[10:42] Journalists and academics were pretty frequent targets of unwitting conduits.
[10:47] There was a famous commentator named Walter Litman.
[10:48] Walter Litman had a secretary named Mary Price.
[10:51] Turns out Mary Price was a Soviet agent.
[10:53] Mary Price accessed and copied Litman's materials from his files.
[10:59] He had no knowledge of it, and what she gave to her organization was valuable insight, and she just passed it up the chain.
[11:10] Litman himself met with individuals that were later identified.
[11:16] As Soviet intelligence officers, and he did it under journalistic cover.
[11:21] He remained unaware of their true roles until the operation was exposed.
[11:25] Similar dynamics played out with other influential writers and thinkers, political figures who served as unwitting sources of context, access or even documents in influence and disinformation operations.
[11:37] This foreign and domestic cultivation of networks.
[11:43] Uh, I don't want to say people who believed they were engaging in legitimate political or culture exchange, but people who, uh, were doing it, whether they believed it or not, they became unwitting assets.
[11:53] And that unwitting asset was for the purpose of propaganda or even intelligence collection.
[12:01] In more recent decades, economic and technological espionage has seen a significant rise in unwitting assets.
[12:08] You had Chinese intelligence services.
[12:10] They've been linked to operations where scientists, engineers, even executives of big.
[12:16] Companies were invited to conferences.
[12:18] They were paid for speaking engagements.
[12:20] They collaborated on projects in China.
[12:22] Unwitting assets often shared technical details because they thought they were just participating in normal conversation.
[12:28] And these are just a few of the well-known examples where the operation was exposed and the handlers and unwitting assets were identified.
[12:37] What they do is they illustrate a core truth, a core truth of this type of spycraft.
[12:43] Effective handling does not require the assets awareness.
[12:48] Deception, psychological subtlety, uh real compartmentalization.
[12:52] They allow handlers to extract value.
[12:56] And while they're doing it, they maintain the operation secrecy and value.
[13:03] The asset may never learn the truth, or they may only discover it years into the operation, even sometimes after the operation has concluded.
[13:11] The consequences of an unwitting asset uncovering the operation can be disastrous.
[13:16] The unwitting asset may.
[13:18] Begin to evaluate all of his interactions in his entire life.
[13:23] Interactions with the suspected handler or handlers.
[13:25] He may even grow suspicious of nearly everyone around him.
[13:28] It's a profound breach of trust.
[13:30] And profound breaches of trust often come with widespread fallout.
[13:35] And that's because the handler's role is fundamentally about control and collection.
[13:38] And this control and collection comes within a very high stakes environment, a very secretive environment.
[13:48] So while he was an unwitting agent, the unwitting agent provided safe and plausibly deniable access.
[13:52] But when that safety and plausible deniability evaporates, the handler and the handler's organization must take decisive action.
[14:04] They have to protect the operation at all costs.
[14:07] And in Spycraft, we know sometimes assets must be neutralized or liquidated to protect the operation.
[14:14] And that is your opening statement.
[14:16] I hope you enjoyed it as much as I do.
[14:18] I mentioned.
[14:19] It today because I am beyond convinced Charlie was an unwitting asset.
[14:23] Period.
[14:26] End of story.
[14:26] You'll never convince me otherwise.
[14:28] Particularly after Andrew Kovett's crash out today and particularly with the arrivals of different people at the courthouse.
[14:34] It was a very strange set of arrivals.
[14:39] I want to start with I'll get to Andrew's crash out in a minute.
[14:42] I want to start with just the arrivals.
[14:43] We have some video footage of different people arriving at the courthouse at different times.
[14:48] This is Andrew, uh, excuse me, Erica Kirk arriving.
[14:51] You'll notice she comes in a side door or a back door.
[14:53] I predicted this to several that she would not walk into the front door.
[15:08] And I think that's probably smart.
[15:09] [clears throat] I think that's probably smart to take a high-profile figure who is the basically victim in this case as recognized by the state of Utah and allow her to come in the side door.
[15:19] I [clears throat] have no problem in the.
[15:20] World with that.
[15:21] I know a lot of people were bent over backward, uh, been out of shape, I think, is a better way to explain it.
[15:25] Uh, me, not so much.
[15:28] This one bit me out of shape.
[15:30] This is the arrival of Charlie Kirk's parents.
[15:33] I want you to see how they arrive.
[15:38] I think I got this from Brandy Sicilian.
[15:40] I'm trying to give people credit.
[15:41] I don't know where I got the first one.
[15:43] I want you to watch how they arrive and I want you to pay particular attention to this tallish blonde lady with the angry haircut and no top, or at least she has a top on but only half of a top.
[15:56] I want you to pay attention to her and how she acts now.
[16:00] She's sitting there waiting for Charlie's parents.
[16:05] Like she's been there.
[16:05] She got dropped off already.
[16:08] She could have gone into the courthouse.
[16:10] She was invited presumably, but she doesn't go in.
[16:14] She waits in the parking lot for Charlie's parents.
[16:20] She really doesn't say anything, but she just stands there in her Erica Kirk 7-year-old haircut.
[16:29] And here come Charlie's parents.
[16:32] Uh Charlie's dad's the bald-headed fella in the uh charcoal business suit.
[16:34] His mother, obviously the one she's holding.
[16:39] Now look at look at Stacy Sheridan reach out to grab the dad and the dad just blows by her.
[16:42] And notice how Stacy Sheridan is not wearing courtroom attire.
[16:46] She's wearing stripper attire.
[16:49] I don't understand who dressed that woman this morning.
[16:55] Uh ladies and gentlemen, I've been in a lot of courtrooms.
[16:56] The girls usually are put away before you go into the courtroom.
[17:00] That's just my I'm just accustomed to that.
[17:03] Uh, and I've seen people wear Philadelphia Eagles jerseys into courtrooms, but their boobs aren't hanging out.
[17:09] Like, they put them away before they go in.
[17:12] They might wear a Philadelphia Eagles jersey, but it covers the cleavage.
[17:17] Not Stacy Sheridan.
[17:19] I don't know what message she's sending and to whom, but
[17:22] That's how she chose to go into the courthouse today, which just shocked me when I saw it.
[17:27] I thought, "Oh, this is what the day is going to be like."
[17:28] I thought this is going to be pretty mundane.
[17:31] No, we got softcore porn.
[17:33] Okay.
[17:33] Uh, hold please, hold please.
[17:35] We've got more.
[17:35] We have, um, Erica's family, her mother and father and her during the testimony when it got particularly tense at an early juncture.
[17:51] We see them exit the courtroom.
[17:53] I was a little surprised by this because I thought that they were told they, I thought they told the crowd they couldn't come and go except at breaks.
[18:01] That's pretty standard in a courtroom.
[18:04] The media was not going to film exhibits.
[18:09] Um, there goes Erica.
[18:11] And they are filming the ones that are on that screen.
[18:12] So, I guess other people are.
[18:14] That girl kind of looks like her.
[18:15] So, I'm thinking she's related somehow.
[18:17] I don't know if this is her sister, her niece, her, I don't know who these people are.
[18:20] I think this.
[18:22] Blonde girl in the front may be her sister.
[18:24] I went and looked up a picture of her sister today and it kind of looks like her.
[18:27] This kind of looks like it could be a niece.
[18:30] And I guess that would make this kid a nephew.
[18:31] Maybe need to clarify that.
[18:33] But I don't know.
[18:36] But so they kind of came and went and the judge was gracious and he said, you know, she's going to be treated like the victim.
[18:42] Well, I understand she's able to kind of come and go, but uh, you know, to exit a whole row from a courtroom, it's a little distracting in the middle of a courthouse.
[18:51] So, I don't know how the judge is going to handle that going forward.
[18:54] We also got word today, ladies and gentlemen, and for reasons I cannot explain, reasons I will never understand, we heard that there was potentially secret service in the courthouse because Don Jr. showed up.
[19:10] Donald Trump Jr. is inside the Provo, Utah courtroom for the preliminary hearing in the murder of Charlie Kirk.
[19:18] Per our Fox reporter inside.
[19:21] This is Matt Finn who is.
[19:24] Basically like a giant S for Erica.
[19:27] It's really shameless how he kind of covers his case, but I don't hold that too much against him.
[19:33] Um, who else showed up?
[19:33] Sergeant Sheckles showed up.
[19:35] It's unbelievable.
[19:37] This is why I thought we were going to get a mountain of evidence.
[19:39] I thought we were going to get a mountain because Officer Tater Tots was there.
[19:45] Yes, Officer Tater Tots was there.
[19:47] Let me see if I can blow this up.
[19:49] I don't want to make it too small for you here.
[19:51] That's probably all I'm going to be able to get.
[19:54] Uh, Brandon Tatum looking like he's on OMIC here.
[19:58] We'll watch this one first.
[20:00] Has a very ompified Brandon Tatum walking in.
[20:05] And then on this side we have Agent Poso, Jack Bobic walking in.
[20:11] So a little weird if I'm being honest.
[20:15] Like this isn't a wedding, you know?
[20:21] Had a little red carpet feel to it.
[20:26] was expecting people to like, Agent
[20:28] Jack. Agent Jack, Jack Bubic, by the
[20:31] way, [clears throat and cough] someone
[20:32] pointed this out. I can't remember who
[20:33] pointed it out,
[20:35] but I went and fact checked it and it's
[20:37] true. Jack Pobic was a Navy intel
[20:40] officer. That's fine. Everybody's
[20:42] allowed to be a Navy intel officer. But
[20:44] he also went to work for Steve Bannon
[20:47] [clears throat] after he left the Navy
[20:48] Intel service. At the time, Steve Bannon
[20:51] was buddying up with Jeffrey Einstein of
[20:56] the Einstein Files in Einstein Island
[20:59] fame. I don't know if that has anything
[21:01] to do with anything that's like two
[21:02] degrees of separation. It's pretty
[21:04] close. Pretty close. I don't think I'm
[21:05] two degrees separated from the man, but
[21:06] maybe others are. Um, and so I want to
[21:10] give you a little overview of kind of
[21:12] what I saw today, and then I want to
[21:14] talk to you very briefly about the
[21:16] purpose of these hearings, why they
[21:17] exist in the first place. But I want to
[21:19] give an overview of the judge.
[21:23] Judge [clears throat] Tony Graph has
[21:24] gotten a lot of grief,
[21:26] and a lot of people think he's just a
[21:28] little too buddy buddy with the
[21:30] prosecution, a little rules a little too
[21:32] harshly against the the criminal
[21:34] defendant.
[21:36] I did not find that today. And granted,
[21:39] it's just day one. I didn't watch all of
[21:40] it, but I thought he was fairly neutral.
[21:44] Um, he may have given a little latitude
[21:46] to the prosecution. He did rule against
[21:48] him when it was particularly egregious
[21:49] one time. Uh, I do have one clip I want
[21:52] to play of the judge, though. This was
[21:53] frankly a little shocking when I saw it.
[21:56] Um,
[21:58] he was watching the footage of Charlie
[22:00] being taken down.
[22:03] I got the volume off here. He was
[22:05] watching the footage of Charlie being
[22:06] taken down. Let me pull the volume off.
[22:11] Watch his reaction when it happens. It
[22:13] and then I'll raise a question, but I
[22:14] want you to watch it first.
[22:19] You'll know when it happens.
[22:22] There.
[22:23] So, that was it. [clears throat]
[22:26] And you can see he's clearly disturbed.
[22:29] I mean, those were involuntary movements
[22:31] of his seat, sitting up, sitting back,
[22:34] and then his eyes. He had that thousandy
[22:36] stare afterwards. I want you guys to go
[22:39] back to the first time you saw it, cuz I
[22:40] don't know that he had seen it before.
[22:45] I want you to go back to the first time
[22:46] you'd seen it.
[22:49] I made a bigger reaction than that. I
[22:51] was sitting in this very chair. I was
[22:54] talking to a friend of mine I've known
[22:55] for 15 plus years, a very active
[22:57] political figure who called me to let me
[22:59] know about it
[23:01] and we were on the phone and I was I was
[23:03] thinking it can't have been that bad,
[23:05] you know, uh because the first image I
[23:07] saw was the very far away image. It was
[23:10] the first kind of video that circulated
[23:12] about the whole thing and and you really
[23:13] couldn't see what happened. You couldn't
[23:14] see any of the the gore. You couldn't
[23:17] see the location of anything. You just
[23:18] saw kind of the shirt move and him like
[23:20] them push him over. And so it kind of
[23:22] looked like he may have gotten winged
[23:24] maybe in the shoulder or something, you
[23:25] know, like jerked and then fell over.
[23:27] And I thought, well, we'll see how it
[23:28] goes. [snorts]
[23:30] And so I start looking around and
[23:32] thinking, is there a better angle? I
[23:34] shouldn't have.
[23:36] And I' I've watched it a thousand times
[23:38] in uh in in preparation for different
[23:41] shows and and just trying to figure out
[23:42] what happened.
[23:44] But I wish I could wipe it out of my
[23:45] head when this is all over. That's not
[23:47] something people should see. No one
[23:49] should watch someone be taken out like
[23:51] that.
[23:53] [clears throat] And I remember just
[23:54] gasping when it happened. [gasps]
[23:57] I was on speakerphone because I don't
[23:59] hear well. I can't hold the phone to my
[24:00] ears, but I was on speaker phone. I was
[24:01] like, [gasps] and he goes, "What? What?
[24:03] What? What? What?" And I said, "Don't
[24:04] watch it." He goes, "I won't." I said,
[24:06] "Don't. Whatever you do, don't watch
[24:07] this, please." It was that that shot
[24:10] we've all seen from right up front.
[24:14] And I can imagine if the judge is seeing
[24:17] this for maybe the first time or a new
[24:18] angle for the first time having that
[24:20] reaction, that little flinch. Props to
[24:22] him for not doing what I did and gasping
[24:24] like a nine-year-old girl
[24:26] cuz I did. I absolutely did. But it gave
[24:30] me insight into this judge. If that
[24:32] truly was the first time he'd seen it or
[24:34] he hadn't seen it very often and it
[24:36] truly shocked him to the core and that
[24:37] wasn't just good acting and it didn't
[24:38] look like good acting, it looked like it
[24:40] was the first time he'd seen it. Props
[24:42] to the judge for not doing what we tell
[24:45] everyone not to do and they immediately
[24:47] go out and do you. You swear in a jury
[24:49] and the judge says, "All right, you guys
[24:50] are now the jury. Do not look at
[24:52] anything in this case. Don't go on the
[24:55] internet. Don't read the local
[24:56] newspapers. Don't watch the local news.
[24:58] You're you're only going to hear about
[24:59] this case inside this courtroom." And
[25:02] the first thing they do at break, you
[25:04] can watch them. They're all on their
[25:05] phones looking up Twitter and Facebook
[25:08] and local news coverage and message
[25:10] board. I mean, you it just it's human
[25:12] nature. It's human nature. You want to
[25:14] know as much as possible. There's always
[25:16] this FOMO. I there got to be information
[25:18] they're not letting us have.
[25:22] It doesn't look like the judge did that
[25:24] in this case. And all I can do is take
[25:27] my hat off to him and say if if Judge
[25:29] Graph, if you truly just watched that
[25:31] for the first time or one of the very
[25:33] few times you've ever seen that, props
[25:35] to you, sir. Genuinely, I mean that
[25:38] because it tells me he's taking his job
[25:40] seriously. And I don't know if that's
[25:42] true or not. Maybe maybe he was a good
[25:45] actor. Maybe he's a good actor. Uh but
[25:47] for those of us who've seen that over
[25:49] and over and over, we don't have that
[25:51] reaction. We just don't have that
[25:53] reaction. And so that's kind of my
[25:54] thought on the judge. He he did an okay
[25:57] job. You know, like I said, gave a
[25:58] little perhaps too much latitude to the
[26:00] prosecution, but it's the prosecution's
[26:01] day. The bar is very low. We know how
[26:04] he's going to rule anyway. This is a
[26:06] This is Candace called it a show trial
[26:08] or a show hearing on X. It kind of is.
[26:11] It kind of is. Um you can indict almost
[26:14] anybody. Uh or or whatever. I don't
[26:18] know. Indictment is more of a grand jury
[26:20] term, but you can you can you can press
[26:23] charges. You can proceed to trial. You
[26:25] can what against anyone. Like the bar is
[26:28] that low. You just have to like honestly
[26:31] this is how low the bar is today. If
[26:34] they would have just shown up and said
[26:36] we interviewed somebody who said he did
[26:37] it and they saw him and they were like
[26:39] all right you're going to trial. You've
[26:42] got an eyewitness. Like you don't have
[26:44] to have any more than that hearsay of
[26:47] someone who you said saw it. That's
[26:50] enough.
[26:53] That's enough. Now did we even get that
[26:56] today? Well, we'll cover that in a
[26:57] minute because next I want to talk about
[26:58] the prosecution and defense. There was a
[27:01] lot of discussion for the last 10 months
[27:03] of whether the defense is sandbagging
[27:05] Tyler Robinson. I don't think they are.
[27:07] I thought they did a pretty good job
[27:08] today. They were prepared, but I think
[27:10] the prosecution was prepared. I think
[27:12] they were competent. They knew the
[27:14] rules. They knew their objections. They
[27:16] objected at the appropriate times. They
[27:18] didn't object at times that were
[27:19] inappropriate. Um, the defense's
[27:22] cross-examination of the one witness was
[27:25] particularly good, I thought. Um, I
[27:28] don't know that I mean, there was one
[27:30] time she asked kind of a a follow-up
[27:32] question that I in hindsight, I bet even
[27:34] she wishes she hadn't asked because it
[27:36] sort of let him wiggle out of testimony.
[27:38] Probably would have been cleared up on a
[27:39] redirect anyway. Um, but, you know, you
[27:42] let them make them work. Don't clear it
[27:43] up for them. And there was one time
[27:45] where he asked a question. I was like,
[27:46] don't ask that. Uh, let them go back and
[27:48] clean it up. But but whatever. You know,
[27:50] I I'm not going to argue with them over
[27:52] it. They did a good job today. It was
[27:53] not a bad job. Now,
[27:57] let me get into just a minute or two
[28:00] because I I I have to I have to because
[28:04] people don't know what a preliminary
[28:05] trial is. A preliminary hearing is. This
[28:08] is not a trial. The standard here is not
[28:12] reasonable doubt. The purpose of this is
[28:15] not to determine whether Tyler Robinson
[28:17] is guilty or innocent. It's not to
[28:19] determine whether he will get the death
[28:20] penalty or life in prison. That's not
[28:22] what was done today.
[28:25] A preliminary hearing is a limited
[28:29] pre-trial screening process. All you're
[28:32] trying to do is determine whether
[28:35] probable cause exists. In other words,
[28:38] do you think the prosecution can make a
[28:40] good faith effort and not going to waste
[28:42] the judicial time and not going to
[28:44] unnecessarily keep this guy against his
[28:46] will in jail waiting on this trial? Are
[28:48] they going to be able to produce at
[28:49] least enough evidence for a jury to
[28:51] consider even if it's not great?
[28:54] That's it. That's all that's happening
[28:55] here. Now, the the defense for their
[28:59] case um can challenge the evidence in
[29:02] these preliminary hearings, but it's
[29:03] it's not going to the sufficiency of the
[29:06] evidence. It's not going to the weight
[29:08] of the evidence. It's going to the
[29:09] sufficiency. As long as the judge deter
[29:11] determines the evidence is sufficient to
[29:13] clear that hurdle, nothing the defense
[29:15] said really matters. And I heard this a
[29:18] lot from people saying it seems like
[29:19] they're conceding a gunshot. Well, who
[29:22] cares? There's no jury here.
[29:25] They don't have to go through every
[29:27] theory. All they have to do is try to
[29:29] knock out the sufficiency of given
[29:31] witnesses. And they I think they did a
[29:32] pretty good job today. Um and I'll go
[29:35] through some of that uh in just a
[29:36] minute. I don't want to go, you know,
[29:37] line by line, but we'll go through some
[29:39] of the highlights. Now, what is the
[29:41] standard we talked about in a trial? I'm
[29:43] going to come way up here. almost
[29:44] absolutely certain, like almost no
[29:47] doubt. Now, reasonable doubt. You can
[29:50] have weird doubt like,
[29:53] you know, maybe uh uh Charlie had a
[29:55] heart attack and it burst his neck open.
[29:57] Uh okay. You know, I don't have to rule
[30:00] that out. Like, that's as a prosecutor,
[30:02] that's not my job. I don't have to rule
[30:04] out stuff like that. We're just talking
[30:05] about reasonable stuff. Was there
[30:07] another shooter? Was he killed by
[30:09] another means other than a gun? Was uh
[30:11] was Tyler Robinson the guy who did it?
[30:13] Was it someone else? Like that's those
[30:15] are the only doubts I have to rule out
[30:16] as a as a prosecutor. That's reasonable
[30:19] doubt. That's trial here. I don't have
[30:20] to inter I don't even have to deal with
[30:22] all that stuff. I don't have to even
[30:24] rule out all this in between here in
[30:27] here. I just have to kind of get to a
[30:28] middle ground. Just, you know, kind of
[30:32] is it more likely than not? I mean,
[30:33] that's a pretty safe way to say it. And
[30:36] as long as you can get there, he's going
[30:37] to trial. And I'm I don't want to spoil
[30:40] the surprise by the end of the week, but
[30:41] they're going to trial. I mean, I just
[30:42] cannot imagine a scenario where this
[30:44] judge is not going to let this go to
[30:45] trial. So, what about the rules of
[30:48] evidence? Because I I was I was watching
[30:50] several feeds today. I watched probably
[30:52] eight different feeds of people covering
[30:53] this and probably half of them did not
[30:56] understand why some evidence was coming
[30:58] in. They kept saying, "Hey, this is
[30:59] hearsay. It shouldn't be coming in." And
[31:01] at trial, it won't, but at the
[31:03] preliminary stage, it will. At least in
[31:05] Utah. Utah has a weird quirk. It's
[31:10] called 1102 and it's embedded into their
[31:12] constitution.
[31:14] And this 1102 rule that they have says
[31:17] that at the preliminary stage, they
[31:19] don't have to abide by the rules of
[31:21] evidence for evidence that's going to go
[31:23] in front of a jury. They're allowed to
[31:24] use what's called reliable hearsay. The
[31:27] judge is the one who determines whether
[31:29] it's reliable, not the prosecution, not
[31:30] the defense. They can both make
[31:31] arguments, and I think the defense made
[31:33] good arguments today that some of the
[31:34] hearsay wasn't reliable. the judge let
[31:36] it in anyway.
[31:39] But regardless, well, there were two
[31:41] instances where he didn't. But, uh,
[31:43] regardless, they I thought they did a
[31:45] pretty good job of at least laying a
[31:46] foundation, a record to review on appeal
[31:49] in the event Tyler loses. Um, and that's
[31:52] that's their job because you kept
[31:54] hearing over and over the defense would
[31:57] make this um unconstitutional hearsay
[32:00] objection. And and I I saw all over X. I
[32:05] saw in different uh feeds, all the
[32:07] comment sections, everyone saying, "What
[32:08] is this unconstitutional hearsay
[32:10] objection? If the judge has already
[32:11] ruled on it, why do they keep raising
[32:12] it?" Here's why.
[32:15] We talked about Miranda a few weeks ago.
[32:17] Miranda writes that you have a right to
[32:19] remain silent. Do you know how many
[32:20] people raised the issue before the
[32:22] Supreme Court finally considered it and
[32:24] ruled in favor of Miranda against
[32:26] Arizona? A thousands, maybe tens of
[32:28] thousands of criminal trials. People
[32:31] went in front of the judge and said,
[32:32] "Judge, my guy confessed, but they
[32:34] didn't tell him he had a right to remain
[32:35] silent." And the judge said, "There's no
[32:36] requirement to remain silent." And they
[32:38] said, "Well, we're raising a
[32:39] constitutional objection. It it violates
[32:42] his Fifth Amendment right to remain
[32:44] silent, that he's not aware of his
[32:46] right." And the judges would say,
[32:48] "There's no one telling us we have to
[32:51] issue this, so we're not going to."
[32:53] Well, eventually, one day, one of those
[32:56] cases, actually four, made it to the
[32:59] Supreme Court. They combined them. They
[33:01] called it Miranda versus Arizona. But I
[33:02] think it was three or four different
[33:03] cases that were kind of smooshed
[33:04] together. All examining the same issue.
[33:06] If a guy confesses but didn't know he
[33:08] didn't have to,
[33:10] do we have to give a new trial? And the
[33:12] and the Supreme Court finally said,
[33:13] "Yeah." You know what? After a hundred
[33:15] years of hearing this and saying, "H,
[33:17] we're finally going to say yeah." And so
[33:20] what they're doing is they're lobbying
[33:22] an objection in front of the judge to
[33:24] say, "Judge,
[33:26] you know this isn't right. This reliable
[33:28] hearsay stuff sucks.
[33:30] We don't know who said this. We can't
[33:32] test it. We can't cross-examinate
[33:33] cross-examine them. We're allowed to
[33:35] attack the sufficiency, but then we
[33:36] can't attack the sufficiency because the
[33:39] person who's who's in charge of the
[33:41] evidence isn't here.
[33:45] And one day some appellet court may look
[33:47] at that and say, you know what, you're
[33:48] right. And so you raise the objection
[33:51] even though you know you're going to
[33:52] lose it at the trial court level. I
[33:54] don't think the judge could sustain that
[33:55] objection if he wanted to. I don't think
[33:56] Utah law would Utah law would allow him.
[34:00] It's in their constitution. It's in
[34:01] their code and their Supreme Court has
[34:02] said it's okay. The judge, if he ruled
[34:06] in favor of the defense on that issue,
[34:08] the judge would be out of line. He would
[34:11] be making an illegal ruling. It would be
[34:12] an activist judge. We don't like
[34:14] activist judges in this country. Or we
[34:17] don't. Some people do, but I don't. I
[34:20] think judges should follow the law even
[34:21] when they disagree with it personally.
[34:23] And I think that's what the judge is
[34:24] doing. he's following the law. An
[34:27] appellet court may come later and say,
[34:28] "You know what? We agree with Tyler
[34:30] Robinson's counsel, but I don't think
[34:31] the trial court judge has that um
[34:33] ability right now." So, I don't blame
[34:35] the judge for overruling it, but I also
[34:38] don't blame Tyler Robinson's lawyer for
[34:39] raising it on every witness. They should
[34:41] in every exhibit. They should. They
[34:43] should because one day a court is going
[34:46] to have to look at this and say, "What's
[34:47] going on in Utah? It's not right. It's
[34:49] not right at all."
[34:51] Now, I did speak to somebody today who
[34:54] told me something shocking. And before I
[34:56] get into the evidence, I want to get to
[34:58] this. A lot was made today about camera
[35:02] footage, video footage, pictures, and
[35:05] what we got was a mountain of trash. We
[35:08] got grainy footage. We got stuff you
[35:11] can't see. Uh uh we saw a p a car that
[35:15] kind of looked like Tyler Robinson's car
[35:16] pull up on a Ring doorbell camera and it
[35:18] looked like you were looking at it
[35:19] through the ocean like it was on the
[35:21] bottom of the sea and we're at the I
[35:23] mean it just it was horrible. You could
[35:25] kind of make out that maybe somebody
[35:29] stepped out of that car but you could
[35:31] not tell if it was a skinny guy or a fat
[35:33] guy, a Mexican, a Chinese guy, a black
[35:35] guy, a white guy, a woman, a man. You
[35:37] could tell nothing about who got out of
[35:40] that car.
[35:42] We've all seen the video footage of the
[35:44] guy scampering across the roof. You
[35:45] can't tell anything about that. Not a
[35:47] single person on earth can honestly sit
[35:49] here today and say, "I know that's Tyler
[35:51] Robinson."
[35:52] You can't. You can't. But you know who
[35:56] might have had images? You know who
[35:57] might have had footage, camera footage,
[35:59] still footage, moving footage of Tyler
[36:01] Robinson or anyone else or something
[36:03] else that might have happened that day?
[36:05] Every media person in attendance.
[36:09] If I wanted to capture all of the
[36:12] highquality footage from that day,
[36:15] including all of the high-quality
[36:16] cameras that were trained on Charlie
[36:18] Kirk at the moment of the Big Bang,
[36:20] maybe somebody pick up something walking
[36:22] through campus. Maybe maybe Tyler
[36:25] Robinson or Lance Twigs or some other
[36:27] co-conspirator.
[36:29] Maybe rule out that it could have been
[36:31] somebody else in the crowd that did it.
[36:32] Who's the first person you would call?
[36:37] Well, you would want to call somebody
[36:39] with a master list of every media person
[36:41] who was there that day. I know that
[36:44] person's name. Her name's Aubrey Lech.
[36:46] She used to work for TPSA until very
[36:48] recently.
[36:49] Aubrey Lech is the person, the singular
[36:52] person who approved all the press passes
[36:54] that day.
[36:56] You know how many people have reached
[36:57] out to her to determine who was there
[37:00] and who might have evidence that can
[37:02] either excate
[37:04] uh or convict
[37:06] Tyler Robinson.
[37:09] Nobody.
[37:10] Nobody at TPUSA has reached out to her.
[37:13] No one reached out to her while she
[37:14] worked there and said, "Hey, do you have
[37:15] a list of everybody who was here? We'd
[37:17] like to contact them and make sure they
[37:19] preserve their footage. Maybe give us a
[37:20] copy of it. We're interested in who
[37:22] killed Charlie Kirk, how and why." There
[37:25] are a lot of rumors going around out
[37:26] there and if we had all the footage,
[37:27] maybe we'd be able to assist. Not one
[37:30] person from TPUSA reached out to her.
[37:32] Nobody at the Utah County Sheriff's
[37:34] Office who was tasked with investigating
[37:36] this crime to determine who killed
[37:38] Charlie Kirk, how and why. No one from
[37:40] the Utah County Sheriff's Office reached
[37:41] out to her. No one from the FBI. The FBI
[37:45] has considerable resources when it comes
[37:47] to looking at uh individual crimes. They
[37:50] could have taken this in. They could
[37:52] have run it through AI programs. They
[37:54] could have at least cataloged it and
[37:56] preserved it somewhere as some sort of
[37:57] central repository of truth. All the
[37:59] highquality camera images that were
[38:01] there that day. All the 1080 video, the
[38:03] 4K video, all the highquality 32 64
[38:06] megapixel camera shots. Nobody from the
[38:09] FBI reached. And shockingly, probably
[38:13] more shockingly than anything, nobody
[38:14] from the prosecution and nobody from the
[38:16] defense
[38:18] reached out to her to ask who was there.
[38:22] who from the media was there. Instead,
[38:26] we're just grabbing footage that's
[38:28] floating around on the internet and
[38:29] trying to run down who posted it. That's
[38:32] that's what we're doing. That's how
[38:33] we're solving the Tyler Robinson case.
[38:36] That's how we're solving who killed
[38:37] Charlie Kirk, how and why. We're
[38:38] counting on interested people to have
[38:40] put it on X.
[38:43] I think it's pretty shocking. And if I'm
[38:46] the defense, I think I jump up and down
[38:48] and make a deal out of this at some
[38:49] point during the trial. You guys did not
[38:51] investigate this. You had an opportunity
[38:54] to contact every newsman there. And
[38:57] there were a lot of news people there. A
[38:58] lot of media there. Shocking amount of
[39:00] media, frankly, for an event that size.
[39:02] Too much media.
[39:05] And you have people calling at the last
[39:06] minute to get media passes.
[39:08] But they don't know who they were.
[39:10] Nobody called her. Why?
[39:15] Wouldn't you think somebody would have?
[39:17] I do. I think somebody I think somebody
[39:20] should have. I think somebody should
[39:21] have if they didn't.
[39:23] All right, let's go through some of
[39:25] these clips. Some of the big moments
[39:27] from the day. The first witness was a
[39:30] guy named Chris Bagley. HE SUCKED.
[39:33] [laughter] HE WAS A DISASTER. If I'm
[39:36] this guy, I'm getting out of town. I'm
[39:37] changing my name. I'm uh wearing a wig,
[39:41] shaving my mustache. I'm getting out.
[39:43] This guy sucked. If I'm being honest, if
[39:45] I'm the prosecution, I'm like, is there
[39:46] a way we can try this case without this
[39:48] guy? I'm not sure you can. I'm not sure
[39:51] you can, but he sucked. He was horrible.
[39:55] I do want to run through a little bit of
[39:56] his testimony here because it was a
[39:58] little shocking, frankly. It was a
[40:00] little shocking. Um, all right, let me
[40:03] play this small sliver here
[40:08] and we'll talk about it.
[40:10] Um, did you make it to the rooftop?
[40:12] I did. Do you know about what time you
[40:15] got there?
[40:16] Um, I pro I got there at 12:44.
[40:20] Okay. Um, what did you do when you got
[40:23] on top?
[40:24] Oh, let me just say that it was 21
[40:26] minutes
[40:28] from the time you heard the big bang at
[40:29] 12:23
[40:32] until
[40:33] Officer Baggley waddled over there by
[40:35] 12:44. 21 minutes.
[40:38] We've read the probable cause affidavit.
[40:40] We'd read the charging documents.
[40:43] And this is the first time we've gotten
[40:44] to hear from him live. This Bagley guy,
[40:47] he was the first one to respond.
[40:50] He was positioned at the top of the Hall
[40:53] of Flags.
[40:56] The Hall of Flags is that roof that was
[40:58] above Charlie Kirk and behind him.
[41:02] And he hears the boom
[41:04] and he scampers down the stairs. He
[41:07] hangs out in the courtyard for a minute.
[41:09] Well, I don't want to give away the
[41:10] whole thing, but he hangs around the
[41:11] courtyard for a minute, finds a gun
[41:13] holster,
[41:15] walks past it, doesn't catalog it,
[41:17] doesn't just walks past it, and then he
[41:20] heads over to the Losi Center. Why?
[41:22] Because he, in his expert determination,
[41:25] found that the Losi Center was the
[41:28] obvious place that a gunshot would come.
[41:31] It's noteworthy that he's the only one
[41:32] who would have had eyes on the Losi
[41:34] Center. The only one who could have
[41:35] possibly had eyes on the Losi Center.
[41:38] and video footage suggested he did.
[41:41] Video footage from the moment of the
[41:43] bang suggests that's where he was
[41:44] looking yet. He didn't see anything, but
[41:47] he knew where to go.
[41:48] Uh when I got on top, I hopped over the
[41:50] guardrail. Um I noticed that there was a
[41:53] an object which was sitting right about
[41:56] 10 or 15 feet in from the other side of
[41:58] the guardrail in the gravel. That looked
[42:00] out of place to me.
[42:02] And in relationship to where you hopped
[42:05] over the guardrail, what direction was
[42:07] that object?
[42:08] Uh to the west of the guardrail.
[42:10] Okay. And um did you recognize the
[42:13] object?
[42:14] I did.
[42:14] And what was it?
[42:15] It was a red and black screwdriver.
[42:17] Okay. Um did you touch that object?
[42:20] I did not.
[42:21] Okay.
[42:27] I am going to refer the witness on your
[42:31] screen, officer Bagley, to states
[42:33] exhibit 3.1.
[42:36] Let me know when you see that.
[42:41] Yes, I see it.
[42:43] Do you recognize what that is?
[42:45] I do.
[42:45] And what is that?
[42:46] That's a picture of the screwdriver that
[42:48] I saw that day on top of the rooftop of
[42:49] the Losi building.
[42:50] Okay.
[42:52] And that's how it appeared on the roof
[42:53] that day?
[42:54] Yes. Is that a fair and accurate
[42:56] portrayal of the screwdriver you
[42:58] observed and found that day?
[43:00] Yes.
[43:01] The state offers states exhibit 3.1.
[43:04] Miss
[43:05] Nester,
[43:06] we renew, excuse [clears throat] me, we
[43:09] renew our standing objection and object
[43:11] on the grounds that there's no
[43:13] foundation laid as to when the photo was
[43:15] taken or by whom. Thank you.
[43:18] All right, let me pause this for just a
[43:19] second. Um, so that's the finding of the
[43:22] red and black screwdriver. Now, you
[43:24] would think because this is after all
[43:28] 2024 or 2026, no, 2025 is when it
[43:32] happened. 2025.
[43:34] You would think that this would all be
[43:37] documented somehow. He just found a
[43:39] critical piece of evidence, by the way.
[43:41] He found a screwdriver.
[43:44] There's no evidence that Charlie Kirk
[43:45] was shot with a screwdriver. Don't get
[43:47] me wrong, but the screwdriver comes into
[43:50] play because of the absurdly ridiculous
[43:52] story we're told that Tyler Robinson
[43:55] climbed to the roof of the Losi Center
[43:57] with a gun in two or more pieces. We're
[44:00] not sure how many pieces. Used a
[44:02] screwdriver to fashion it back together.
[44:05] Somehow maintained a near-perfect zero.
[44:08] Meaning where you're aiming is where the
[44:10] bullet will go.
[44:12] And scured off the rooftop with all the
[44:13] evidence. Oh, but he forgot the
[44:15] screwdriver. Unlucky him. Unlucky him.
[44:18] Now, you would assume that would be
[44:20] documented. We're familiar with body
[44:22] camera footage.
[44:25] Officer Baggley,
[44:26] was it docu? It was documented, right,
[44:29] Officer Begley? You you documented it,
[44:31] right?
[44:33] While you were on the roof, did you
[44:35] encounter any spent casings?
[44:38] As a matter of fact, no. That's why when
[44:40] I I saw the prone position where the
[44:42] where the a person would be laying down
[44:43] as a sniper. Being around guns and
[44:46] snipers all the time, I was looking for
[44:47] a spin shell casing. I couldn't see one.
[44:49] I was looking over the edge, looking all
[44:51] over the place, making sure the gravel
[44:52] wasn't disturbed, and I couldn't find a
[44:54] shell casing at that moment. And that
[44:55] would be the reason you would be looking
[44:57] for that was because some types of guns
[44:59] when they shoot eject a casing
[45:01] automatically, right? Some do,
[45:03] some don't.
[45:04] Yes.
[45:05] Right. Um, and then you also didn't find
[45:08] any un unshot bullets?
[45:10] No.
[45:11] Okay.
[45:12] Are you aware of there being a bullet
[45:14] found on another roof?
[45:16] I'm not vicinity.
[45:19] Were you aware of another bullet being
[45:20] found on the scene, not on the roof of
[45:22] the Losi building?
[45:23] No. All
[45:26] right. Your body cam footage that I
[45:29] reviewed appears to end while you're
[45:32] still on the roof. Do you know why that
[45:35] is?
[45:35] I think the battery went dead. It was
[45:37] destroyed at that moment.
[45:38] Okay. And do you know did you ever turn
[45:43] it back on that day or go get it re I
[45:45] don't know. What do you have to do?
[45:46] Charge it or stick a new battery in it?
[45:47] I don't even know.
[45:48] Usually dock it, but no, I didn't go
[45:49] back. I was too It was too chaotic.
[45:55] Body cam footage died
[45:59] at the at the critical moment. The body
[46:01] cam footage died. I was on the roof
[46:04] scouring evidence. I was just about to
[46:07] find the fatal screwdriver. I mean the
[46:09] uh the critical screwdriver. I was
[46:11] looking for spent casings.
[46:14] Oh. Oh, and Oh, the that pesky body
[46:16] came. Oh, it died. It died. Oh, it died.
[46:19] Yeah. Yeah. Uh what do you mean it died?
[46:21] Well, it ju I it just ran out of juice.
[46:23] Well, well, that's interesting. I'm I'm
[46:25] looking here at uh some body cam
[46:27] footage. I just wanted to know what kind
[46:28] of famous body cam footage companies are
[46:32] out there. Here's Provision. This is a
[46:34] common body cam footage. Uh recording
[46:37] duration and storage limits. Uh full
[46:40] shift recording strains department
[46:41] resources through increased data storage
[46:43] cost. Battery limitations also affect
[46:46] recording capacity with most current
[46:48] generation cameras providing 10 to 14
[46:51] continuous hours of continuous recording
[46:54] time. Wow. 10 to 14 hours. That's
[46:56] amazing.
[46:59] That's amazing. He got there at 11.
[47:03] Now 12:44. That's only an hour and 44
[47:06] minutes. Well, that must be an unusual
[47:08] model. Well, no. Here's a another common
[47:11] model of body cam that police officers
[47:14] use. The Axon Body 4.
[47:18] Purpose-built to be an incredible
[47:19] camera. This camera has a 13hour battery
[47:23] life, ensuring the camera is a reliable
[47:27] full shift partner even when realtime
[47:30] services like live streaming are used.
[47:33] Oh,
[47:36] so body cam footage is supposed to last
[47:40] 10 to 14 hours, 13 hours,
[47:43] and you got an hour and 44 minutes. And
[47:45] at the critical moment, right when all
[47:47] the marbles
[47:48] are at risk, all of our chips are in the
[47:51] middle. We're down to the felt. The
[47:53] cards are about to be flipped over. The
[47:55] body cam footage dies.
[47:58] That's a little Jeffrey Epstein for me,
[47:59] if we're being honest. It just is.
[48:02] It just is. It's the three minutes of
[48:04] missing footage in the middle of the
[48:06] night.
[48:08] It's the Oh, the cameras were broken on
[48:09] that wing.
[48:12] Sorry, guys. I'm not buying it. I think
[48:14] that's trash. I think that's trash. Uh,
[48:18] this is the guy who found the prone
[48:19] position. You want to see what the prone
[48:21] position that he found looks like?
[48:24] You You guys may complain and say,
[48:26] "Well,
[48:28] your screen is only recording at 1080."
[48:30] Uh guys,
[48:32] this guy was talking about knee prints
[48:34] and footprints and elbow prints and
[48:37] rifle print.
[48:40] Where are all these prints? Sir, this
[48:44] the gravel over here looks more
[48:45] disturbed than the gravel that you're
[48:47] saying is is the prone position here.
[48:49] And we might believe that you found it
[48:51] in this condition if your body cam
[48:53] footage didn't die.
[48:57] You're the worst witness I've seen in a
[48:59] long time in any trial. I can't believe
[49:02] they led with you. This is a disaster.
[49:07] And and we're only like onethird of one
[49:09] witness in.
[49:12] Now, let's go back to the radio scanner.
[49:16] Let's go back to the radio scanner here.
[49:17] Let me back it up just a smidge to give
[49:19] you a little more context. Here is the
[49:22] radio scanner from that encounter.
[49:25] Listen for the word screwdriver. You
[49:27] would think if he saw the fatal
[49:29] screwdriver that would be the first
[49:30] thing he would talk about.
[49:32] Latest report says there's one on top of
[49:34] the building.
[49:36] On top of the Losi building. I do have
[49:38] kind of a imprint which would be a great
[49:41] angle just in 14. I'm up on top of the
[49:44] Losi.
[49:48] Do we have do we have uh suspect
[49:51] information or are we still looking for
[49:52] someone?
[49:54] Yeah, they think uh
[49:58] your um DPS is requesting to try and get
[50:00] that motorcycle stopped. Maybe a suspect
[50:02] in that shooting. What was your traffic?
[50:05] Hey B, can you tell if there's a camera
[50:07] in that area?
[50:09] I know they have spotted somebody. I
[50:11] think they're still trying to make
[50:13] contact.
[50:15] I'll go ahead and spoil the surprise.
[50:17] There was no screwdriver discussed on
[50:19] the dispatch.
[50:21] You would think the guy with the dead
[50:22] body cam footage would have known
[50:26] to immediately signal in that you'd
[50:28] found evidence. Oh, we got a screwdriver
[50:30] up here. Well, when he was in the
[50:32] preliminary hearing, that's the first
[50:34] thing he mentioned was the screwdriver.
[50:38] Now, we
[50:41] can't find him anywhere. Well, did he go
[50:43] up there alone? Did Did this guy Did
[50:46] this officer Baggley did he go up alone
[50:49] on the Losi Center? No, no, he didn't go
[50:52] up alone on the Losi Center. He had
[50:54] company. Who Who accompanied him to the
[50:56] top of the Losi center? Do share. We're
[50:59] all on the edge of our seats.
[51:01] Okay. And it was on
[51:02] Yes.
[51:03] Um and it appears to me from reviewing
[51:07] your body camera that there was another
[51:09] individual who was with you that went to
[51:11] the Losi building who was in civilian
[51:14] clothing but appeared to have a gun. Who
[51:16] was that?
[51:16] I I don't know who he was exactly. He He
[51:19] had a badge on and I had somebody with
[51:21] me to back me up as I ran up the stairs
[51:23] to make sure I had somebody with me.
[51:24] So, you don't know what agency he's from
[51:26] or where he's from?
[51:28] No.
[51:28] And he it looked like he had a pistol.
[51:30] Yes.
[51:30] Is that right?
[51:31] A handgun. Yes.
[51:33] A handgun.
[51:38] Okay. So, we've got officer Baggley
[51:45] somehow positioned at the top of the
[51:46] Hall of Flags with a perfect view to the
[51:48] Losi Center. Appears on camera to be
[51:50] looking that way at the moment of the
[51:52] fatal shot. Intuitively says he didn't
[51:55] see anything. Intuitively says that
[51:57] sounds like a rifle that came from the
[51:59] Losi Center or it sound like a rifle and
[52:02] it must have come from the Losi Center.
[52:03] I don't know why he chose the Losi
[52:05] Center. There were all kinds of
[52:06] buildings around. They all made No, no,
[52:08] no, no. He went straight made a beline a
[52:10] beline for the Losi center. When he gets
[52:14] there, his body cam fails. He shows up
[52:17] on the scene of the crime. He's ready to
[52:18] find the screwdriver. He's ready to find
[52:19] the imprint of a body laying there. But
[52:22] that goddamn body camera footage failed
[52:24] after an hour and 44 minutes. That's too
[52:27] bad.
[52:29] But he wasn't alone. Too bad we can't
[52:32] question the other guy. We don't know
[52:33] who he was.
[52:34] No, just a guy in civilian clothes with
[52:38] a gun and a badge.
[52:41] Who? Are you telling me there was law
[52:44] enforcement there that we don't have
[52:46] documented? We don't know who that was.
[52:49] Maybe we'll find out who it was, but
[52:52] it's a little weird to me. How do we
[52:54] know this guy's not dropping
[52:55] screwdrivers? How do we know this guy's
[52:57] not making imprints with his foot? We
[53:00] don't. We don't because his body cam
[53:03] failed and we don't know who that was.
[53:06] Ladies and gentlemen, that's a little
[53:07] weird. I mean, just right out of the
[53:09] gate, that's a little weird. Is that
[53:10] reasonable doubt? I don't know. It's
[53:12] weird.
[53:14] Definitely weird. Um, if if I was going
[53:16] to frame somebody, I, you know, might
[53:19] want to get on top of that roof with a
[53:21] guy in civilian clothes and a badge and
[53:23] a gun to drop screwdrivers off.
[53:27] Maybe. I don't know.
[53:29] But that happened. Like that was
[53:31] testimony in the courtroom today. That
[53:33] was testimony in the courtroom. Now, we
[53:36] know for a fact,
[53:39] I got this from Honest Ash. Real Honest
[53:41] Ash on uh on X. We know for a fact
[53:49] that uh that this guy Bagley, at least
[53:52] he testified, reviewed some surveillance
[53:54] footage.
[53:55] How confident was he in the surveillance
[53:58] footage that he reviewed? This this
[53:59] officer Baggley, what did he see
[54:01] precisely? It's all going to come down
[54:03] to this. We're told he was on video
[54:05] camera, man. We saw the guy on video
[54:07] camera. He was up there with a gun. Oh,
[54:09] was he?
[54:10] Did you mention anywhere in this report
[54:12] that you saw a gun?
[54:14] I did not. I just had an object.
[54:17] So, he did not mention in his police
[54:19] report that he saw a gun. After
[54:21] reviewing the surveillance footage that
[54:23] we're promised
[54:25] shows Tyler Robinson, not anyone else
[54:28] but Tyler Robinson,
[54:30] we're told this shows Tyler Robinson
[54:33] with a gun.
[54:35] This is the guy who reviewed the
[54:37] surveillance footage.
[54:39] He He reviews the surveillance footage.
[54:41] He writes up a report and doesn't
[54:42] mention a gun.
[54:44] Just mentions an object.
[54:47] Well, now we're getting into mountains
[54:49] of reasonable doubt, right? Because you
[54:51] got to have a gun to shoot somebody. You
[54:52] can't shoot somebody with an object.
[54:54] Some objects will shoot people, but a
[54:55] lot of objects won't. Broomsticks don't
[54:57] shoot people. Poles don't shoot people.
[55:01] Flagsticks don't shoot people. All could
[55:03] be considered objects.
[55:04] Did you mention that you saw that
[55:08] object? Is that on here?
[55:10] Nope.
[55:11] Okay.
[55:11] Nope. That wasn't in there either,
[55:13] actually. So, get rid of the object.
[55:15] That wasn't in his initial impression of
[55:17] the video either.
[55:18] So, you left that out.
[55:21] Now, have you looked at that over and
[55:22] over again?
[55:24] Of the video? No, I've only seen it
[55:26] twice.
[55:27] Oh, really? When's the last time you saw
[55:28] it?
[55:29] Uh, it's been months.
[55:30] Okay. The last time you saw it, were you
[55:33] able to tell what that object was in his
[55:35] hand?
[55:36] Uh, yes. Well, not tell what it is. I
[55:38] can see there's an object in that left
[55:39] hand. Yes.
[55:40] And could
[55:40] couldn't tell what the object was the
[55:42] last time he saw it. So, this is the guy
[55:43] we're relying on. This is the convicting
[55:46] evidence. This is the guy who they used
[55:48] in the charging documents to say that
[55:51] Tyler Robinson scampered off the roof
[55:52] with a gun. This guy, it was his report
[55:57] that didn't mention an object in his
[55:58] hand. And that he still looking back
[56:01] says, "Well, I can't tell it's a gun. I
[56:02] can just see it's an object."
[56:04] Knowing what you know about the case
[56:05] today, do you have an idea about what
[56:07] that object was?
[56:08] That's the question I wouldn't have
[56:09] asked. I've mentioned that earlier that
[56:11] I would not have asked a question. You
[56:13] know, sometimes you just let the
[56:17] factfinder, in this case the judge, you
[56:20] just sort of let his imagination run
[56:22] wild. You don't, if you got a guy on the
[56:24] hook, you don't take him off and throw
[56:26] him back into the ocean, right? You just
[56:29] let the And the prosecution is going to
[56:31] clean that up. But make them earn their
[56:33] money. They get paid a state paycheck.
[56:35] They're probably making 120 150 grand a
[56:38] year to sit at that table. Let them earn
[56:39] their paycheck.
[56:41] You don't have to go in and clean it up
[56:43] for him. Uh, you know, you said you
[56:44] didn't see an object, but are you sure
[56:46] you didn't see an object? Any idea what
[56:48] it could have been? Oh, come on. Don't
[56:49] Don't ask that question.
[56:50] It looks like a a rifle or something to
[56:52] that effect. A long long object.
[56:57] It looks a rifle or something to that
[57:00] effect. A long object. I can think of a
[57:02] long a lot of long objects that are not
[57:03] rifles. I've got I got several in here.
[57:06] I mean, I got I got long objects in
[57:08] here. I got tripods for the camera,
[57:09] tripods for the I'm not suggesting a guy
[57:11] is on the roof with a tripod, but we're
[57:13] talking about killing a man here. We're
[57:15] talking about depriving him of his life,
[57:18] putting him in front of a firing squad
[57:19] or injecting stuff in his veins that'll
[57:21] cause him to suffocate and die. We might
[57:24] want to be a little more sure than Well,
[57:27] he had a long object,
[57:28] like a rifle,
[57:29] like a long object, like skinny and
[57:31] long. You can see it's like almost like
[57:33] is covered over something.
[57:34] So, you saw the cover, which was the
[57:37] towel, right?
[57:37] Yes. And and the shape of it is long.
[57:40] Okay.
[57:41] So, he saw a long towel. That's what he
[57:43] saw. Uh some sort of cover. Some sort of
[57:45] long something.
[57:46] So, you can see a towel, but you can't
[57:49] see an actual
[57:49] I don't know if it was a towel or a
[57:50] blanket. I don't know what it was.
[57:52] But you can't see an actual gun.
[57:54] No, like an object like a form of a gun.
[57:56] Like a long object.
[57:58] Okay.
[58:00] you mention
[58:02] somebody asked me the other day in a
[58:04] super chat, could I define
[58:05] circumstantial evidence?
[58:08] I don't even think that's circumstantial
[58:09] evidence. Like that's just guessing like
[58:12] I saw something. He had he was holding
[58:14] something. Well, that something is
[58:17] pretty important as we are reviewing the
[58:19] evidence, sir. That's pretty important.
[58:22] Um, it actually, um,
[58:27] if you go to the original probable cause
[58:29] affidavit, so this is from September
[58:31] 12th.
[58:33] Um, if you go to the original probable
[58:35] cause affidavit,
[58:38] this is very consistent. What he said
[58:40] today in court is very consistent with
[58:43] what was in the original probable cause
[58:45] affidavit. Here it is highlighted in
[58:46] blue. suspect appeared to be carrying an
[58:50] item
[58:51] whose identity is not clear from the
[58:54] surveillance.
[58:57] So, an unidentified object is what is
[58:59] being carried. That is the language from
[59:01] the probable cause affidavit on
[59:05] September 12th. 4 days later, September
[59:07] 16th, we have ourselves new language.
[59:11] We have ourselves new language. I think
[59:13] somebody realized you can't convict
[59:15] somebody for carrying a large object.
[59:18] So, they've changed it. Camera later
[59:20] captures the suspect as he runs across
[59:22] the roof to the suspected shooting
[59:24] position. Immediately after the shot was
[59:25] fired, a camera captures the suspect
[59:27] running across the roof carrying an item
[59:30] whose shape is consistent with a rifle.
[59:32] I'm not even sure you can convict
[59:33] somebody for carrying an item consistent
[59:35] with the shape of a rifle. But at least
[59:36] we're getting somewhere.
[59:38] But you have to admit the guy you're
[59:40] relying on
[59:42] didn't say that. That's not what he
[59:45] said.
[59:47] That's not at all what he said.
[59:52] In fact, what he said was
[59:55] he could not identify the person on the
[59:59] roof other than not being hefty. I don't
[01:00:02] remember the exact words he used. I
[01:00:03] stole this from the dangster. I don't
[01:00:05] think he'll care. Jens, you're doing the
[01:00:07] Lord's work out here compiling evidence
[01:00:09] for our program.
[01:00:11] This is how he described the figure he
[01:00:15] saw on the roof.
[01:00:16] You have that day?
[01:00:17] Yes.
[01:00:18] You mentioned when you went to the
[01:00:19] police department, you watched the video
[01:00:23] where you saw an individual
[01:00:25] up on the roof,
[01:00:27] right?
[01:00:28] And that individual was in the vicinity
[01:00:30] where you saw the disturbance in the
[01:00:32] gravel.
[01:00:32] Yes.
[01:00:34] And um when you looked at that video,
[01:00:38] were you able to identify the
[01:00:40] individual's face?
[01:00:41] I know.
[01:00:42] Well, that's a problem.
[01:00:45] Um again, we're talking about putting a
[01:00:47] man to his death.
[01:00:49] A lot of times you want to make sure
[01:00:51] you've identified the correct
[01:00:52] individual. We just got evidence that
[01:00:55] you actually cannot identify his face.
[01:00:57] What about other characteristics?
[01:00:58] Were you able to identify any markings
[01:01:00] on their clothing?
[01:01:02] Uh no. No markings on the clothing. So
[01:01:04] all of a sudden the guy in the stairwell
[01:01:06] becomes largely irrelevant. We have no
[01:01:08] idea what the guy in the roof was
[01:01:09] wearing.
[01:01:10] Were you able to identify their height?
[01:01:13] No.
[01:01:14] Have no idea who it is. Could have been
[01:01:16] a 52,
[01:01:18] I don't know, Chinese guy. Could have
[01:01:20] been a 6' 9 in white guy. We don't know.
[01:01:23] When you all when we looked at the
[01:01:26] picture of the I think you called it the
[01:01:30] sniper perch, I'm going to use your
[01:01:31] word. um words. It looked like there was
[01:01:34] a measuring tape laid out next to it.
[01:01:36] Did you ever were you present when they
[01:01:38] measured like the distance like how long
[01:01:40] how tall that person would have been?
[01:01:42] I was not.
[01:01:43] So we don't know how tall he was.
[01:01:46] So you don't know what that is?
[01:01:47] I don't.
[01:01:49] Um
[01:01:51] were you able to tell the person's
[01:01:52] weight from the video that you saw?
[01:01:55] I can tell he wasn't a heavy set.
[01:01:57] Okay. So he's not a fatty.
[01:02:00] He's not a fatty. That's all I know.
[01:02:03] I mean, I I don't even think we can say
[01:02:05] he at this point.
[01:02:07] I I think we can't rule out the 50% of
[01:02:10] the population roughly, maybe 51% that's
[01:02:12] female.
[01:02:14] At this point, we're going with
[01:02:17] human. I mean, I I think we're I think
[01:02:19] we can settle on human. I don't think
[01:02:20] it's Bigfoot up there. I don't think.
[01:02:23] But we have no markings on his clothing.
[01:02:25] We have no face. We don't know what he's
[01:02:28] carrying. It's an object. It's long,
[01:02:30] long object.
[01:02:31] Um, we don't know how tall he is. We
[01:02:35] know he's not hefty.
[01:02:38] He eats salad. That's the only thing we
[01:02:40] know about this guy. He loves salad.
[01:02:42] Salad, fruit plates,
[01:02:45] 973 beef. That's all he eats. Lean cold
[01:02:50] cuts,
[01:02:52] maybe some fish,
[01:02:54] steamed broccoli. That's all we know.
[01:02:57] It's all That's all we know. The guy
[01:02:59] doesn't sit around bags of Lays. He
[01:03:02] doesn't eat a gallon of ice cream every
[01:03:03] night.
[01:03:07] And I I don't even know what not heavy
[01:03:09] set means. I mean,
[01:03:11] that ain't the skinniest guy I've ever
[01:03:13] looked at. Is he Would he consider
[01:03:14] himself heavy set? I think it would have
[01:03:17] been a perfect opportunity. Oh, man. Now
[01:03:19] that I think about it, as soon as he
[01:03:21] said he wasn't heavy set, let me pull
[01:03:22] this back up. As as soon as he said he
[01:03:26] wasn't heavy set,
[01:03:29] I think Katherine Nester should have
[01:03:30] gone, "What about me? Am I heavy set?
[01:03:36] Was he smaller than me? Would you call
[01:03:39] me heavy set? What do you mean by heavy
[01:03:41] set, sir? Heavy set's a relative term. I
[01:03:43] need to know how you're defining it.
[01:03:46] I I mean,
[01:03:48] for force the guy into the most awkward
[01:03:51] conversation in the history of mankind.
[01:03:53] What is one thing no man wants to be
[01:03:55] asked? Do I look fat in this?
[01:04:00] You know,
[01:04:02] I would have been interested to know how
[01:04:04] he answered it. And that's no shade on
[01:04:06] Katherine Nester. I mean, just work with
[01:04:09] what you got, girl. Use it to your
[01:04:11] advantage. He gave you an opening. Walk
[01:04:14] through it. Walk through it.
[01:04:17] This is where we are in this case.
[01:04:21] My body cam footage. I I just
[01:04:23] miraculously knew precisely which roof
[01:04:25] to go to. I was accompanied by a
[01:04:27] civilian or in a man in civilian clothes
[01:04:30] in a badge that I didn't identify. I
[01:04:32] have no idea what agency he worked for.
[01:04:34] Could have bought it on eBay for all we
[01:04:36] know.
[01:04:37] Amazon
[01:04:39] could have used a 3D printer and shin
[01:04:41] that bad boy up with some Kryon
[01:04:45] gold trim. I have no idea what agency he
[01:04:48] worked for, but he had a gun and a
[01:04:50] badge. So, I took him to the scene of
[01:04:52] the crime
[01:04:54] and I made sure that my body cam footage
[01:04:56] died right when me and unknown guy
[01:04:59] showed up to the scene of the crime and
[01:05:01] were the only two people there.
[01:05:04] And then I later reviewed some
[01:05:05] surveillance footage and confirmed that
[01:05:07] some sort of creature was on that roof.
[01:05:09] Probably human. Probably human.
[01:05:13] Uh not a fat human at that. Not a not a
[01:05:16] heavy set human.
[01:05:18] uh an osimpic American and and uh and he
[01:05:22] was carrying something long. He had
[01:05:24] something long in his hand, but I don't
[01:05:27] know what clothes he was wearing. I
[01:05:28] didn't identify his face. I was not able
[01:05:30] to get any identifying characteristic. I
[01:05:31] don't know how tall he was, how old he
[01:05:33] was, what color he was. I know nothing
[01:05:34] about the man.
[01:05:38] I was promised mountains of evidence. I
[01:05:40] was promised mountains of evidence. I
[01:05:43] was pro They have him on camera. Well,
[01:05:47] do they do they have him on camera? I
[01:05:51] mean, after today, do they have him on
[01:05:52] camera? Do they have Tyler Robinson on
[01:05:55] camera committing a murder? It's
[01:05:58] important. We're charging a man. You You
[01:06:01] promised us mountains of evidence.
[01:06:05] You promised us mountains of evidence.
[01:06:09] Uh, the next guy
[01:06:10] that came up,
[01:06:12] oh gosh, didn't mean to start jumping in
[01:06:14] right away. The next guy who came up
[01:06:17] um was a guy named Hull, David Hull. I
[01:06:21] was hoping they would get to um Brian
[01:06:23] Davis today. They didn't. I think Brian
[01:06:26] Davis will tell us for sure whether that
[01:06:28] 6:25 p.m. Miranda was
[01:06:31] on September 11th or September 12th.
[01:06:35] That's going to be an interesting
[01:06:36] discussion. I think he'll I think he has
[01:06:38] to know the answer because he is alleged
[01:06:41] to have shown up at 10 or 10:30. The
[01:06:43] arrest documents say he got there at 10.
[01:06:46] It'll be interesting. I'm sure the
[01:06:48] defense will cover it if the prosecution
[01:06:49] doesn't. But what time did you first
[01:06:50] hear about it? Where were you? Were you
[01:06:52] in Salt Lake City? Were you in Provo?
[01:06:54] Were you in Oram?
[01:06:56] How long did it take you to get there?
[01:06:58] So, what time did you leave to head
[01:06:59] there in order to get there at 10 or
[01:07:00] 10:30? Did you Did you drive an
[01:07:03] extraordinarily high rate of speed
[01:07:06] or did you drive normal 70 75 miles an
[01:07:09] hour down the interstate? I think it'll
[01:07:11] be interesting when that comes up. It'll
[01:07:14] be very interesting. Uh, but the second
[01:07:16] witness was not Brian Davis as I'd
[01:07:18] hoped. The second witness was a guy
[01:07:20] named David Hull.
[01:07:22] I found it noteworthy. I don't know why
[01:07:25] that the guy had some sort of accent
[01:07:26] that was unamerican. Um, I don't know if
[01:07:29] it I I'm not good with accents. I don't
[01:07:31] know if it was British or Australian. I
[01:07:33] don't know what it was. But he didn't
[01:07:35] sound local. And I don't know why that
[01:07:37] matters.
[01:07:39] You're allowed to be a cop and not an
[01:07:41] American or be raised somewhere else.
[01:07:43] Maybe he is an American. Maybe he's a
[01:07:44] naturalized citizen. I don't.
[01:07:48] And you could probably still do a good
[01:07:49] job, but you know,
[01:07:52] I favor the guy with the Uton accent in
[01:07:55] this case. Um,
[01:07:58] but he was there largely, I'll say, to
[01:08:01] talk about the extra video footage. So,
[01:08:04] he talked about the video footage from
[01:08:07] Terrell Farnsworth. By way of
[01:08:09] introduction, Terrell Farnsworth was the
[01:08:11] guy who um
[01:08:15] who runs a company called Visual
[01:08:17] Impulse, I think, is the name of the
[01:08:19] company. Visual Impulse, I believe, only
[01:08:21] has one client. They might have more,
[01:08:23] but I think they only have one client,
[01:08:24] and that's TPUSA.
[01:08:26] So, Terrell Farnsworth is not a TPUSA
[01:08:29] employee. He's a contractor. is a
[01:08:31] contractor, but his office at least used
[01:08:34] to be located in the building where
[01:08:36] Charlie Kirk was located in the studio
[01:08:38] where they filmed the Charlie Kirk show.
[01:08:42] I don't think it's there anymore. I
[01:08:43] think they moved it to one of the other
[01:08:44] buildings. But regardless, he's on
[01:08:47] campus or or at the embassy as as they
[01:08:50] like to call it at TPSA. the embassy
[01:08:52] there on Beverly Road in Phoenix.
[01:08:56] There was an interesting discussion
[01:08:59] about how the
[01:09:02] FBI ended up with possession of
[01:09:06] of the different video. And we have that
[01:09:09] we have that discussion captured. I want
[01:09:11] you to listen carefully to this
[01:09:13] discussion because I'm going to hearken
[01:09:16] back
[01:09:18] to a conversation
[01:09:20] um Candace Owens had with Terrell
[01:09:23] Farnsworth. But I want you to hear this
[01:09:25] first.
[01:09:25] Agent with the SBA.
[01:09:27] Yes, we were able to collect video. Um
[01:09:29] TPUSA had a videographer
[01:09:33] uh visual impulse.
[01:09:35] In case you thought I was lying about
[01:09:36] the accent, a videographer. a vigora.
[01:09:41] I just thought I would just prove that I
[01:09:44] was right. He does not sound like he's
[01:09:45] from Utah.
[01:09:46] Um who was taking coverage of the event
[01:09:50] and they provided video to us that they
[01:09:52] had captured on September 10th of 2025.
[01:09:55] And do you know who or how that video
[01:09:59] was collected from Visual Impulse?
[01:10:01] Yeah, Mr. Farnsworth originally
[01:10:03] provided, I believe, a flash drive to
[01:10:05] Lieutenant O'Brien with one of the local
[01:10:07] agencies.
[01:10:08] And a short time after that, on
[01:10:10] September 10th, he provided um
[01:10:13] downloadable versions, electronic
[01:10:15] versions to Agent Mortonson.
[01:10:19] And um an 11:02 was collected from him
[01:10:21] on May 6th of 2026.
[01:10:24] So an 112 was prepared by someone with
[01:10:27] visual impulse.
[01:10:28] Yes. Terrell Farnsworth was the
[01:10:30] individual that prepared it. And in
[01:10:32] preparation for this, I spoke to him
[01:10:34] personally regarding that statement.
[01:10:36] And do you know what his association is
[01:10:37] with Visual Impulse?
[01:10:39] Uh I believe he's the owner operator
[01:10:42] or the director of the the company.
[01:10:44] And then who collected that 1102
[01:10:46] statement from Mr. Farnsworth?
[01:10:48] Um it was Agent Mson who collected it.
[01:10:51] Okay. And you know that because agent
[01:10:53] Mson told you or
[01:10:55] he provided it to me. Um, and then as I
[01:10:57] mentioned, I subsequently spoke to
[01:10:59] Terrell Farnsworth personally regarding
[01:11:00] his statement.
[01:11:01] Okay.
[01:11:08] You had a chance to look at Mr.
[01:11:09] Farnsworth's 1102 statement?
[01:11:11] I have. Yes.
[01:11:12] Okay. And again, does that statement um
[01:11:16] include an advisory that any statement
[01:11:20] that he provided would be used a
[01:11:21] preliminary hearing in lie of his live
[01:11:23] testimony?
[01:11:24] Yes. Did it also include a warning that
[01:11:26] a false statement would uh potentially
[01:11:28] be punished by a class A misdemeanor?
[01:11:30] It did. Yes.
[01:11:32] Okay. So, to clarify here,
[01:11:35] Terrell Farnsworth, we now know what
[01:11:38] date he turned over the footage. It was
[01:11:41] on September 10th. We know the manner in
[01:11:44] which he turned it over. Turned it over
[01:11:46] two different ways. According to this
[01:11:47] guy, one way he turned it over was via
[01:11:52] a flash drive.
[01:11:55] That's a piece of hardware. It's a I
[01:11:59] think most of us know what a flash drive
[01:12:00] is. You plug it into your computer and
[01:12:02] you It has a uh all the files in there
[01:12:04] and you just access it. That's one way
[01:12:07] this guy says he turned it over. The
[01:12:09] second way that he says he turned it
[01:12:11] over was via
[01:12:14] um
[01:12:16] Google Drive was via Google Drive.
[01:12:21] So that is how
[01:12:25] they say he turned it over. Flash drive
[01:12:28] and Google Drive.
[01:12:31] But that's not what we were told
[01:12:32] initially. If you recall,
[01:12:35] are in the possession of the FBI.
[01:12:38] That's what Andrew Kovette told us.
[01:12:41] But that's not what the officer said at
[01:12:43] all. The officer said he never got the
[01:12:45] SD cards or he didn't mention getting SD
[01:12:47] cards. Instead, he said he got a flash
[01:12:50] drive and a downloadable version from
[01:12:53] Google Drive.
[01:12:55] That's interesting, the downloadable
[01:12:57] version from Google Drive. And I can
[01:12:59] show you that that is what Terrell said.
[01:13:02] Terl apparently got over his fear of
[01:13:04] being hacked by Google because you
[01:13:07] remember he told Candace Owens he would
[01:13:08] not share the drive with her. She just
[01:13:11] wanted to see did a shot come out the
[01:13:13] back and he said, "Oh, I I'm not going
[01:13:16] to share that with you. I'm afraid I'll
[01:13:17] get hacked by Google.
[01:13:20] I'm afraid I'll get hacked by Google.
[01:13:22] Well, that conversation took place
[01:13:23] shortly before September 19th. Uh, as
[01:13:26] Jillian Faith says here, uh, great to
[01:13:29] see he got over his fear that Google was
[01:13:30] going to hack him.
[01:13:33] Apparently, this link no longer works.
[01:13:35] People have tried it. I think it's
[01:13:36] diabolical, guys, if I'm being honest.
[01:13:39] Uh on September 10, I was president at
[01:13:40] the Turning Point USA Valley UN uh Utah
[01:13:43] Un uh excuse me, Utah Valley University
[01:13:45] event.
[01:13:48] Myself and my team were there to provide
[01:13:50] audio equipment setup, management, and
[01:13:51] support as we had done for Mr. Charlie
[01:13:53] Kirk for years. I'll tell you right now,
[01:13:55] that first sentence, those first two
[01:13:57] sentences, that is evidence Terrell
[01:13:59] Farnsworth did not draft this. They said
[01:14:02] it was drafted by him. This was not
[01:14:04] drafted by him. He would know that's not
[01:14:06] how you stylize Turning Point USA. It
[01:14:09] would either be he would have either put
[01:14:10] TP USA in all caps or Turning Point USA
[01:14:13] with USA in all caps. He would not have
[01:14:15] put capital U lowerase A S lowercase A.
[01:14:19] That that's not how he would have
[01:14:20] stylized that. Uh and I like to believe
[01:14:23] he wouldn't have started the sentence
[01:14:24] with myself. That's not proper English.
[01:14:28] But maybe I'm giving him too much
[01:14:29] credit. And nor do I think he would have
[01:14:31] called him Mr. Charlie Kirk. Our camera
[01:14:34] setup consisted of three angles. An
[01:14:35] angle directly on Charlie, an angle on
[01:14:38] the individual asking questions, and a
[01:14:40] wider angle behind Charlie that showed
[01:14:43] the audience and crowd reaction. It's
[01:14:44] that wider angle behind Charlie
[01:14:48] that Candace Owens was talking about.
[01:14:51] That day, September 10th, I provided SBI
[01:14:55] with four videos through a Google Drive
[01:14:57] link. And then he gives the link. these
[01:15:01] videos labeled whatever duration 2620
[01:15:04] whatever that is duration 2308 whatever
[01:15:06] that is duration 2648 and hyperdeck
[01:15:10] whatever that is duration 2611 were
[01:15:13] taken by me and my team at the event on
[01:15:16] September 10th 2025
[01:15:18] what's interesting about that is that's
[01:15:21] four different videos that he provided
[01:15:24] now he said he only had three angles
[01:15:29] if if if you if you read. He says he has
[01:15:30] three angles. Now, now maybe one of
[01:15:32] these is some sort of like compilation
[01:15:34] that has all three videos on the same
[01:15:36] screen. I don't know. But he says those
[01:15:39] four files and they they last between 26
[01:15:42] and 23 and 26 minutes. I don't know why
[01:15:46] that one is shorter, but whatever. Were
[01:15:48] taken by me and my team at the UVU event
[01:15:50] on September 10, 2025. These videos, as
[01:15:53] they were provided to SBI, are a true
[01:15:55] and correct representation of what took
[01:15:56] place. That's just foundational language
[01:15:57] that has to be in there regarding the
[01:16:00] clip labeled as whatever I've reviewed.
[01:16:03] And from what I can see, it is a true
[01:16:04] and correct representation of a portion
[01:16:07] of the larger files I previously sent to
[01:16:10] the FBI. So, it sounds like the FBI
[01:16:12] clipped it and sent it back to him for
[01:16:14] additional authentication.
[01:16:16] That's what it looks like to me going on
[01:16:18] in here. I don't again I don't know why
[01:16:20] four files instead of three when he says
[01:16:21] they only had three cameras. One of them
[01:16:23] may be some sort of super cut that has
[01:16:25] all three on the same screen. I don't
[01:16:27] know.
[01:16:28] And then it and then it sounds like this
[01:16:31] footage of crowd and behind Charlie
[01:16:32] that's bait stamped uh number 15 sounds
[01:16:36] like it's a clip of what he provided.
[01:16:39] But regardless, he says he provided it
[01:16:41] by Google Drive. He doesn't mention a
[01:16:42] flash drive.
[01:16:45] And he sure doesn't mention providing SD
[01:16:46] cards to them.
[01:16:49] And I think that's a key fact.
[01:16:52] I think that's a very key fact
[01:16:56] because
[01:16:58] what's what's at question here is
[01:17:01] whether these are
[01:17:04] precisely accurate representations
[01:17:08] of what was on those SD cards.
[01:17:13] You know, I once you take the SD card
[01:17:15] and you load it into a computer and then
[01:17:18] you create a new file, you could
[01:17:21] in theory, edit it. And some editing is
[01:17:24] really slick.
[01:17:27] It's really slick. You might not catch
[01:17:29] it, right? You you might not
[01:17:32] uh even really sophisticated people just
[01:17:34] viewing it might not see it.
[01:17:38] So, I think I would ask where are the SD
[01:17:40] cards and can we look at them? Is there
[01:17:41] a way to analyze them to see have they
[01:17:42] been altered? Are they the original
[01:17:44] footage?
[01:17:46] I don't even know if that's possible. I
[01:17:48] mean, it's been 10 months. What What
[01:17:50] could What could have happened to those
[01:17:51] SD cards in 10 months? What could have
[01:17:53] happened to the footage?
[01:17:56] And why was one of them three minutes
[01:17:58] shorter than the other?
[01:18:02] And was it the full frame? Did we get
[01:18:04] the full frame? And did we see
[01:18:07] everything going on behind the table
[01:18:08] afterwards?
[01:18:11] I just got a lot of questions. I've got
[01:18:13] a whole lot of questions when it comes
[01:18:14] to this stuff.
[01:18:19] But that sounds like it's not
[01:18:23] sounds like it's not uh
[01:18:26] his handwriting. Sounds like it's not
[01:18:28] his handwriting. Now,
[01:18:31] guess who crashed out all day? Uh I I'm
[01:18:34] not sure who is advising TPUSA at this
[01:18:37] point. I'm not sure at all who is
[01:18:40] advising TPUSA at this point. Um, and I
[01:18:44] can see Andrew is embarrassed by his
[01:18:46] crashs because he's now posted a bunch
[01:18:48] of stuff back to back to back in order
[01:18:50] to push them down. But I I just want to
[01:18:53] go through some of these um some of this
[01:18:55] crash out over the last day or so. Um,
[01:19:01] let's see here. Let me scroll back to
[01:19:06] late last night, I think, is when it all
[01:19:08] started. Wow.
[01:19:12] Okay, here we go.
[01:19:14] So, last night we covered on this
[01:19:16] program that um that there was an
[01:19:20] article coming out from a a National
[01:19:22] Contagion Research Institute had
[01:19:23] provided some data showing that Candace
[01:19:27] Owens is radicalizing people.
[01:19:31] And Andrew Kovette today, 11 hours ago,
[01:19:34] reposted
[01:19:37] a thread in which um somebody is is
[01:19:41] basically bad mouthing Candace for this.
[01:19:46] And he goes through and I don't know,
[01:19:49] must have screwed it up because he kind
[01:19:50] of reposted it there.
[01:19:53] Then he starts really
[01:19:57] going after her. Um,
[01:20:01] let me show you.
[01:20:05] Here we go. So, Candace posts, "One more
[01:20:08] fight, Charlie. I don't fear these
[01:20:10] demons. We will win." That probably
[01:20:12] should have gone without a response from
[01:20:14] TPUSA's chief PR person, but he could
[01:20:16] not help himself. Candace, you and
[01:20:18] Charlie were not friends. [laughter]
[01:20:22] I love this. This is going to be a
[01:20:23] center point of this all day. He He
[01:20:25] fighting with her all day over Charlie
[01:20:27] didn't like you.
[01:20:30] I had these same fights in fifth grade.
[01:20:33] Billy doesn't like you. He's not your
[01:20:35] friend.
[01:20:37] You and Charlie were not friends. He
[01:20:40] managed you. That's why I did the
[01:20:42] opening I did today. He's accusing
[01:20:44] Charlie
[01:20:47] of being a liar and a hypocrite. All day
[01:20:50] long he goes into this. He kept things
[01:20:53] light and polite so you wouldn't turn on
[01:20:55] the org. Show me any proof of genuine
[01:20:58] friendship from the last 12 months of
[01:20:59] his life. From the last 18 months, from
[01:21:02] the last 24 months, not some 2018 text,
[01:21:05] something recent.
[01:21:07] You gave him anxiety. In other Candace
[01:21:10] is the you here and Charlie's the him.
[01:21:12] Char Candace gave Charlie anxiety
[01:21:16] whenever you Candace called or texted
[01:21:18] asking demanding to speak at our events.
[01:21:22] He made me or Justin deal with you and
[01:21:24] George.
[01:21:25] This is why when you tried to hire me in
[01:21:27] February 2024 for PR, I agreed to go
[01:21:31] along with it against my better judgment
[01:21:33] because Charlie asked me to keep you
[01:21:34] close and protect the org from you.
[01:21:38] I published as I tried to hire to run
[01:21:39] point prayed about it and felt the Lord
[01:21:41] told her a firm no. So I ultimately
[01:21:43] declined. This is your central
[01:21:45] foundational lie. You were not his
[01:21:46] friend. You were not his defender. You
[01:21:48] were his tormentor. And now you torment
[01:21:51] his wife and the organization he built.
[01:21:52] Candace, you are a fraud.
[01:21:56] And then he goes on to quote Blake Nef
[01:21:59] here. As Charlie once told us, Candace
[01:22:01] is very easy to understand once you
[01:22:04] realize all she cares about is money.
[01:22:07] Well,
[01:22:09] Candace did not take that lying down.
[01:22:11] Did not take that lying down at all.
[01:22:14] And [clears throat] she had a response.
[01:22:19] She had a response. In fact, many
[01:22:22] responses. [laughter]
[01:22:24] Here is one such response. Charlie had
[01:22:28] so much anxiety about our friendship
[01:22:30] that he was the one updating me on the
[01:22:31] farce of October 7th. Really weird to
[01:22:34] continually initiate convos with someone
[01:22:36] you're scared of. And this is Charlie
[01:22:37] Kirk texting her about the IDF knowing
[01:22:41] of the plan to kidnap before the event
[01:22:43] took place and her writing back unreal.
[01:22:46] That was January of 2024. certainly
[01:22:48] within the last
[01:22:51] I don't know what do you say 24 months.
[01:22:53] It's right outside the last 24 months.
[01:22:56] Um and they just went back and forth all
[01:22:59] day.
[01:23:00] They just kept going back and forth all
[01:23:02] day. It was absolutely ludicrous.
[01:23:07] Andrew reposted
[01:23:09] somebody who said this. Candace and
[01:23:11] Charlie were not friends. I've spent the
[01:23:13] last year getting to know the leadership
[01:23:14] at TPS USA. Oh, the last year. You say
[01:23:17] you must know everything then. I bet
[01:23:19] you're fun at parties. I spent hours in
[01:23:22] char in conversation with Charlie Kirk,
[01:23:23] closest friends. Oh,
[01:23:27] that's not very comforting, sir. And
[01:23:30] without fail, every single one of them
[01:23:31] tells me essentially the same thing.
[01:23:32] Candace and Charlie weren't really
[01:23:34] friends. Well, we don't doubt that
[01:23:35] they'd say that. The question is, were
[01:23:36] they? And what you're saying here is you
[01:23:38] have no information relevant to that
[01:23:41] inquiry. So, that's more uh
[01:23:45] more here. Here's Candace saying,
[01:23:47] "Andrew has recently been seeding the
[01:23:49] narrative that Charlie distanced himself
[01:23:51] from me." Here's Andrew in his own words
[01:23:53] on a text chain with me and Charlie in
[01:23:55] May of 2024, denying that charge.
[01:23:58] Charlie had my back 100%. His donors
[01:24:00] were the ones pressuring him. He always
[01:24:02] expressed to me that he thought the
[01:24:03] Daily Wire was behind the sudden push.
[01:24:05] Here is Andrew Corvette
[01:24:08] texting Candace May 3rd, 2024.
[01:24:13] We're not distancing ourselves from you.
[01:24:15] This is Andrew Kovvette to Candace
[01:24:17] Owens. We are not distancing ourselves
[01:24:19] from you. We have a bunch of donors that
[01:24:22] want us to, but we deal with them
[01:24:24] one-on-one. And this website is a
[01:24:26] resource explaining things. Most of them
[01:24:28] are fine once we sit and talk with them.
[01:24:31] I wonder if it's Ben personally or Daily
[01:24:33] Wire pretty dirty.
[01:24:35] And so Andrew here is tossing
[01:24:38] the dimminionative leader of the Daily
[01:24:41] Wire, Ben Shapiro, right under the bus
[01:24:43] and backing over the little short bus
[01:24:45] right over him. I'm assuming it's a
[01:24:46] short bus, [ __ ] horse short bus, but
[01:24:48] he's backing the bus right over.
[01:24:52] And then Charlie says, "Candice, we are
[01:24:54] with you 100%."
[01:24:58] Candace, we are with you 100%.
[01:25:01] Then Andrew chimes in and says, "Yep,
[01:25:03] sounds exactly what someone would say to
[01:25:06] a person they're trying to manage."
[01:25:11] Sir, you just called Charlie Kirk a liar
[01:25:14] and a hypocrite.
[01:25:17] You just took his dead corpse and wiped
[01:25:20] your hind end with it after an
[01:25:21] especially steamy and greasy one. That's
[01:25:24] what you just did, Andrew. Is that the
[01:25:28] look TPUSA is going for?
[01:25:32] Scoring pot shots against podcasters
[01:25:37] by desecrating the image of your
[01:25:40] founder.
[01:25:43] No, Charlie was just trying to manage
[01:25:45] you. He's a liar. You know, these are
[01:25:48] these are the two options Andrew has.
[01:25:50] He's backed himself into a really
[01:25:51] strange corner and he didn't have to. He
[01:25:53] could have just ignored it.
[01:25:58] Option A is the option he's chosen.
[01:26:02] Yes, Candace Charlie lied to your face.
[01:26:04] He is a liar after all. Like me, Andrew
[01:26:08] Kovette, an admitted liar.
[01:26:10] Charlie, it also is a liar. And I'm
[01:26:13] going to desecrate his corpse right here
[01:26:15] in public on X for all to see.
[01:26:19] This particular tweet has already been
[01:26:21] viewed 261,000 times. That's a quarter
[01:26:23] million people have seen Andrew Corvette
[01:26:26] call Charlie Kirk a bold-faced liar.
[01:26:28] Bald-faced liar. Whatever you want to
[01:26:29] call it. That's option A. The option
[01:26:33] he's chosen. Kick Charlie while he's
[01:26:36] dead.
[01:26:37] Option B
[01:26:40] would be to say I'm lying now. I, Andrew
[01:26:42] Kovette, am lying now. You and Charlie
[01:26:44] were actually friends. I' I've been
[01:26:45] mistaken. I wasn't telling the truth.
[01:26:49] He chose not to do that.
[01:26:52] He chose instead to run over his dead
[01:26:54] friend, his alleged friend. I don't
[01:26:56] think they were friends. If anyone
[01:26:58] wasn't the friend, I think it's Andrew
[01:26:59] wasn't the friend.
[01:27:01] I think Andrew was the handler. That's
[01:27:03] why I did the opening I did today. I
[01:27:06] think Andrew Andrew was inserted into
[01:27:08] TPUSA
[01:27:09] and Charlie was an unwitting asset.
[01:27:11] Andrew was managing him. Andrew was
[01:27:14] planting things in his head. He was he
[01:27:18] had control of his Twitter account.
[01:27:20] Like, how much better of a handler can
[01:27:22] you be than to actually be able to put
[01:27:25] words in the mouth of your unwitting
[01:27:26] asset? Get on Charlie Kirk 11
[01:27:31] Twitter feed and say whatever you want.
[01:27:34] Like, that's handler gold.
[01:27:37] Most handlers working with unwitting
[01:27:39] assets don't have that access.
[01:27:45] But Andrew did.
[01:27:49] He wasn't fine just
[01:27:52] Andrew did. He wasn't fine just
[01:27:52] desecrating Charlie's corpse on that one
[01:27:53] occasion. He actually went a step
[01:27:55] further. Here is Candace saying, "I'm
[01:27:58] glad you finally came to the surface,
[01:28:00] rat." [laughter]
[01:28:08] Your previous employees told me it was
[01:28:10] you and Erica that were teaming up with
[01:28:12] the YouTubers to put out that utterly
[01:28:14] fake narrative that Charlie and I were
[01:28:15] not friends and he had anxiety.
[01:28:18] You also worked together to lie about
[01:28:19] his pull towards Catholicism and to put
[01:28:21] out the deranged narrative that I
[01:28:24] secretly loved Charlotte and hadn't
[01:28:26] spoken to him since 2019 despite me
[01:28:28] touring with him through May of 2024.
[01:28:32] Your lies are easy to debunk. I simply
[01:28:34] could have not have demanded to speak at
[01:28:36] any TPS USA event because we had a
[01:28:38] speaker contract that rolled over
[01:28:40] annually. Andrew, this means I never had
[01:28:43] to beg or even request to speak at any
[01:28:46] event because I was contractually
[01:28:48] obligated to speak at every major TPUSA
[01:28:52] event every year.
[01:28:55] It's also utterly ludicrous to suggest
[01:28:57] he didn't pick up my calls because I
[01:28:59] never call. Any person who knows me
[01:29:01] knows I never pick up or call people.
[01:29:05] But you lie so much. I'm going to accept
[01:29:08] this easy challenge to prove you're a
[01:29:10] liar by releasing every single time I
[01:29:11] dialed Charlie's number for the last
[01:29:13] three years. As soon as I'm back on air,
[01:29:15] that will be released. Man, when she
[01:29:17] gets back, it's going to be bad on these
[01:29:18] people. And I know they are anticipating
[01:29:20] it, which is why they're freaking out
[01:29:21] right now. They're trying to seed and
[01:29:24] poison the well before she gets back
[01:29:29] because when she gets back, it's going
[01:29:31] to be bad for them. And they know it.
[01:29:33] I've promised it and they know it.
[01:29:36] Gratefully, telephone logs go back five
[01:29:38] years. I simply prefer to text and I
[01:29:40] thank God for that as I've been able to
[01:29:42] debunk your lies about Charlie because
[01:29:43] of that habit. Like I said, your number
[01:29:45] one problem is you are dumb.
[01:29:48] Regarding your narrative that we never
[01:29:49] spoke, I literally just released Charlie
[01:29:51] and I discussing your partner Johnny
[01:29:52] Moore's demonic attack against Crisis
[01:29:54] King, a convo initiated by Charlie.
[01:29:57] Those messages are dated to May 2025.
[01:30:00] But hey, let's hear Charlie's own words
[01:30:03] regarding our friendship, shall we?
[01:30:05] Here, Charlie. captured August 21, 2025,
[01:30:07] three weeks before he died. But what did
[01:30:09] he say? What did he say? Three weeks
[01:30:11] relationship with Candace Owens.
[01:30:12] She's a great friend. You know, look, I
[01:30:14] don't agree with everything Candace
[01:30:15] says. But you know what I don't do? I
[01:30:17] don't stop being friends with people
[01:30:18] just because people morally blackmail
[01:30:20] me. I don't do that. And you shouldn't.
[01:30:22] Honestly, I traveled the country with
[01:30:23] Candace. I went to her wedding. I saw
[01:30:25] her meet her husband. I went to Israel
[01:30:27] with Candace, which is a fun story I'll
[01:30:28] tell you at some point. I I think the
[01:30:30] world of Candace, she's a great mother.
[01:30:32] She certainly has very very fun opinions
[01:30:34] at times and she's a great talent. She
[01:30:38] says a lot of stuff that sometimes I
[01:30:39] don't agree with but that's what makes
[01:30:41] the rel our relationship and our
[01:30:42] friendship
[01:30:43] relationship with Candace Owens not
[01:30:47] well Andrew could have chosen to ignore
[01:30:50] that
[01:30:52] but no he has to
[01:30:54] dig Charlie up and set him on fire. not
[01:30:59] not content with wiping his hind
[01:31:01] quarters with Charlie's dying dead
[01:31:03] corpse. He has to dig him up and set him
[01:31:05] on fire. I was actually with Charlie at
[01:31:08] the event. We traveled that entire week
[01:31:10] together. As Charlie says here, he would
[01:31:11] never allow someone else to morally
[01:31:14] blackmail him into condemning anyone. I
[01:31:15] love that about him. All this clip
[01:31:17] demonstrates is that he was a gentleman
[01:31:19] who believed a personal relationship
[01:31:21] with someone put that person off limits.
[01:31:23] He was very forceful on that point. But
[01:31:25] you might have also noticed he's
[01:31:26] scrambling to defend your very fun
[01:31:27] opinions that he didn't agree with.
[01:31:33] And now we're going to put words in a
[01:31:34] dead man's mouth. And when he got off
[01:31:37] stage, the first thing he asked me as we
[01:31:39] walked to the car was how I felt he
[01:31:41] handled the Candace answer. He said he
[01:31:43] knew you'd eventually see the clip and
[01:31:45] wanted my opinion on how it came across.
[01:31:46] I told him he handled it well. And he
[01:31:49] said the Candace questions are only
[01:31:50] going to continue to get crazier.
[01:31:53] Uh, continue. The crazier your
[01:31:54] commentary got. We have to be ready for
[01:31:56] them. He was walking on eggshells,
[01:31:58] Candace, because he knew he was one clip
[01:32:00] away from you turning on him in the org.
[01:32:05] Hope that helps.
[01:32:08] It wasn't just Charlie lying by text
[01:32:12] directly to Candace. He wasn't just
[01:32:14] lying to one person on the other end of
[01:32:15] a text thread. He was lying to thousands
[01:32:17] of people at an event who paid or showed
[01:32:20] up to see him. He'll lie to them too.
[01:32:22] Candace
[01:32:24] and the world.
[01:32:26] If you believe Charlie, if you believe
[01:32:28] Andrew, Charlie was a hypocrite. Charlie
[01:32:30] was not worth following.
[01:32:32] Charlie had no spine, no backbone,
[01:32:35] and he had no honor, no integrity,
[01:32:39] no nobility.
[01:32:41] There was nothing good about Charlie's
[01:32:43] character according to Andrew Kovette.
[01:32:45] Because anyone who will lie to you that
[01:32:46] frequently, that often, and frankly lie
[01:32:48] to that many people, is a lousy
[01:32:50] individual. It's a it's a terrible human
[01:32:51] being.
[01:32:54] I don't believe that about Charlie Kirk.
[01:32:56] I didn't agree with him on every
[01:32:58] political issue. I stated that early and
[01:33:00] often when I started covering this case
[01:33:03] um that his foreign policy was not my
[01:33:05] cup of tea, but that over the past 12 to
[01:33:09] 18 months, he'd started coming around a
[01:33:10] little bit to see things more my way
[01:33:12] when it comes to American
[01:33:13] interventionism.
[01:33:17] But what I never thought Charlie was was
[01:33:19] a diabolical being. I never thought he
[01:33:21] was a liar. I never thought he was a
[01:33:22] habitual liar. And I never thought he
[01:33:25] lied with ease. I might have thought he
[01:33:27] was mistaken, but I thought he was
[01:33:28] decent. Good.
[01:33:31] Andrew Kovette did not think that.
[01:33:34] At least not what he's saying now.
[01:33:36] Rather, Andrew Kovette thought Charlie
[01:33:38] Kirk was a monster.
[01:33:41] Someone who would lie at will just to
[01:33:42] plate people because he didn't have the
[01:33:44] spine, the backbone to handle the
[01:33:47] fallout. That's a coward. That's what we
[01:33:51] call a coward. You, sir, are taking the
[01:33:53] coward's way out here, Andrew. You're
[01:33:56] taking the coward's way out.
[01:34:00] What you've done today has done more to
[01:34:03] demean and degrade Charlie's memory
[01:34:09] than anything Candace's Owens has ever
[01:34:11] said about Erica Kirk.
[01:34:16] Erica has lied. It's documented. How
[01:34:20] many college degrees does she have? How
[01:34:22] many pageantss did she enter? How many
[01:34:24] people did she date? When did she date
[01:34:26] them? These are all documented facts.
[01:34:28] that she lied about. At least best I can
[01:34:31] tell. And I've never been corrected on
[01:34:34] that record.
[01:34:37] But what you're doing, Andrew,
[01:34:40] is not documented.
[01:34:42] You are putting words into a dead man's
[01:34:45] mouth to call him a liar. You're
[01:34:49] interpreting the texts that Candace is
[01:34:52] putting forward. You're not providing
[01:34:54] evidence that Charlie felt any of these
[01:34:56] things. It's a funny thing about what
[01:34:58] you and TPS USA do. This seems to be a
[01:35:00] habit.
[01:35:02] We don't have any documented evidence
[01:35:04] that Charlie ever wanted Erica to take
[01:35:06] over.
[01:35:08] All we got was some clipped up one and
[01:35:10] 3/4 second divided into two brief clips
[01:35:13] out of context. No idea what he was
[01:35:15] talking about. And from that, you tell
[01:35:18] us that of course Charlie wanted Erica
[01:35:21] to take over. Who could doubt it? We
[01:35:23] released the video. No, you didn't. No,
[01:35:25] you didn't. We don't know what that
[01:35:27] video was talking about.
[01:35:29] Then you tell us, well, we can back it
[01:35:31] up because he told all of us personally
[01:35:33] and individually. Well,
[01:35:35] he never wrote it down. He never put it
[01:35:37] in a text. He never put it in any of his
[01:35:40] journals.
[01:35:41] He never talked about it openly on any
[01:35:43] stage. And in fact, it went against
[01:35:45] absolutely everything he said on every
[01:35:47] single stage he would ever been on when
[01:35:49] he talked about if a woman can afford
[01:35:51] it, she should be home with her kids.
[01:35:52] That's the most important thing a woman
[01:35:54] can do.
[01:35:57] Everyone except Erica. You see, Charlie
[01:35:59] wanted Erica in the office. She wanted
[01:36:02] her at the founders ball. Where were her
[01:36:04] kids? She wanted her on speaking tours.
[01:36:08] Where were the kids? She wanted her
[01:36:11] putting on her pumps,
[01:36:14] playing boss babe. That's what he really
[01:36:16] wanted for Erica. That's what you're
[01:36:17] telling us.
[01:36:19] And all we have are the words of Charlie
[01:36:22] Kirk himself that fly in the face of all
[01:36:24] of that. It's the exact same thing here,
[01:36:27] Andrew. All we have are the words of
[01:36:30] Charlie Kirk and you
[01:36:34] who told Candace continually for years
[01:36:38] that Charlie was in fact her friend,
[01:36:40] cared for her deeply, kept her updated
[01:36:41] on things, was not stabbing her behind
[01:36:44] her back,
[01:36:48] was communicating with her,
[01:36:52] was confirming their friendship on a
[01:36:53] regular basis, was even speculating out
[01:36:56] there. I think it was the Daily Wire who
[01:36:58] might be doing this. That diabolical,
[01:37:00] dastardly Ben Shapiro. Perhaps he's the
[01:37:03] one you should be going after.
[01:37:06] Not sure how I'd feel if I was Ben
[01:37:07] Shapiro today.
[01:37:13] But this is the way you've chosen to
[01:37:15] treat Charlie's memory. Every time
[01:37:18] something comes up that seems to fly in
[01:37:21] the face of everything Charlie actually
[01:37:23] said, you guys have some super secret
[01:37:26] conversation that took place behind the
[01:37:28] scenes that went against all of it. And
[01:37:30] what it means is that Charlie was not an
[01:37:32] honorable man. He was not an honest man.
[01:37:35] He was a diabolical maniacal liar. A
[01:37:38] habitual pathological liar. He lied
[01:37:41] about what he wanted women to do in the
[01:37:44] workforce. He lied about his
[01:37:46] relationship with Candace. What else did
[01:37:48] he lie about, Andrew? Can we just get it
[01:37:50] all out now? Can we go ahead and
[01:37:51] completely desecrate his corpse? Can we
[01:37:53] go ahead and completely roll over it
[01:37:55] with a steamroller while we're going
[01:37:56] ahead and doing all the rest of this?
[01:38:00] What you're doing is gross. And I don't
[01:38:03] I don't know if you know you're doing it
[01:38:05] or if you really hated the man because
[01:38:08] you were assigned to him as a handler
[01:38:09] and you had no respect for him
[01:38:11] whatsoever.
[01:38:13] because that's what you're acting like.
[01:38:17] You're acting like you were the one who
[01:38:20] was making all the calls.
[01:38:22] And I'm telling you right now, this is
[01:38:25] horrific.
[01:38:27] This is horrific.
[01:38:29] What you're telling all of the TPUSA
[01:38:31] followers is you've been duped. Charlie
[01:38:34] Kirk is not who you thought he was.
[01:38:36] You guys who used to tune in every day
[01:38:38] for the Charlie Kirk show, he was lying
[01:38:40] to your face. You were following a liar.
[01:38:42] All of you who booked hotel rooms and
[01:38:45] traveled to cities to see Charlie Kirk
[01:38:47] speak live. Waste of time. He was just a
[01:38:50] two-bit liar.
[01:38:54] All you people who read his 16
[01:38:56] best-selling books,
[01:38:58] he didn't mean any of that. He's just a
[01:39:00] pathological liar, according to Andrew.
[01:39:04] I'm not sure you're doing what you think
[01:39:06] you're doing, sir.
[01:39:08] I don't know where you learned your PR
[01:39:10] skills, but go back and get your money
[01:39:12] back. You've been let down.
[01:39:16] Someone failed you in life.
[01:39:19] Someone failed you miserably and you
[01:39:22] should be ashamed. But I don't think you
[01:39:24] have any shame. So, I expect this
[01:39:26] terrible behavior to continue. I can't
[01:39:28] wait to find out next from Andrew
[01:39:31] where else Charlie told habitual lies.
[01:39:37] can just tune into his X feed and find
[01:39:38] out. I suppose I'm sure it's coming.
[01:39:45] All right,
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[01:41:48] waiting to watch James Files confess.
[01:41:51] Oh, Jay-Z and I are waiting watch James
[01:41:54] Files confess.
[01:41:56] Did she tell you to say that? She asked
[01:41:57] me like three times a week if I've
[01:41:58] watched James Files yet.
[01:42:01] I'll watch it. I'll watch I can't
[01:42:03] promise I'll watch it tonight or
[01:42:04] tomorrow, but I am going to watch it.
[01:42:05] Daisy, if you're planting people in the
[01:42:07] comments, it's working.
[01:42:10] But but Baron, an AK version of the old
[01:42:12] angel meme
[01:42:14] seems appropriate. Aka, stop hitting
[01:42:16] yourself. But low, he could not because
[01:42:19] EF was hitting him with his own hands.
[01:42:22] Sorry, I gota turn my fan up a little
[01:42:24] bit. It's hot. Um,
[01:42:27] yeah, he's a little like that. He's his
[01:42:29] own worst enemy. Uh, my fellow jury
[01:42:32] members, the ring cam driveway footage
[01:42:34] was clearly a metallic mint green Buick
[01:42:36] Skylark. Oh,
[01:42:39] it didn't look like that to me, but I'll
[01:42:41] go back and double check it. Uh, any
[01:42:43] experts know if engraved bullets fly
[01:42:46] true? Well, the the shell itself
[01:42:48] shouldn't change the flight of the
[01:42:49] bullet. I doubt he was actually in
[01:42:52] engraving the actual bullet. We use
[01:42:53] bullet colloquial colloquially to mean
[01:42:56] everything from the casing to the bullet
[01:42:58] itself. The reality is the casing
[01:43:00] doesn't go anywhere. You can write
[01:43:02] whatever you want on there as long as
[01:43:03] you don't damage the the casing itself.
[01:43:07] Uh I suddenly de developed a foreign
[01:43:09] accent to be here. [laughter] You must
[01:43:11] have been the one testifying, sir. Uh
[01:43:13] hearsay to its best on this preliminary
[01:43:16] hearing which is absurd. I hope Charlie
[01:43:18] gets the justice
[01:43:20] he deserves. Oh, I do too.
[01:43:23] I do too. Uh, but but Baron, does a
[01:43:26] state constitution supersede our federal
[01:43:29] constitution? Why would they allow
[01:43:30] evidence even though it's federally
[01:43:32] unconstitutional? Um, I don't think
[01:43:34] she's saying it's federally
[01:43:36] unconstitutional. I think what she's
[01:43:38] doing is setting up the appellet
[01:43:39] process, which will often times in a
[01:43:42] death penalty case include a federal
[01:43:43] component, the habius corpus route. Uh,
[01:43:46] after you've exhausted your state court
[01:43:47] options, you can run through the federal
[01:43:48] courts. Um, and I think that's what
[01:43:50] she's setting up.
[01:43:52] I had to stop going from hospital to
[01:43:54] hospital looking for the victim to watch
[01:43:57] this podcast. Well, welcome in. Welcome
[01:43:59] in, Mr. Keshi. Every time I watch the
[01:44:01] judge look at a video we weren't allowed
[01:44:03] to see, I laughed and said he's pulling
[01:44:04] a Baron. [laughter]
[01:44:06] I didn't even think about that. You're
[01:44:08] right. That didn't even cross my mind.
[01:44:10] Happy crash day, Baron. Slop critical
[01:44:13] mass. Yes, Andrew's crashing out. It's
[01:44:15] It's bad, too. He is destroying Charlie
[01:44:17] Kirk's legacy every single day. uh got
[01:44:21] out of the drapes just to watch this.
[01:44:22] Thank goodness. Thank goodness. Drapes
[01:44:24] are expensive. Uh first super chat.
[01:44:26] Longtime listener. Thanks for keeping us
[01:44:27] all awake and informed. You truly are an
[01:44:30] extraordinary podcaster. All the love
[01:44:31] from Southern Utah. Well, you're right
[01:44:34] in the thick of things there in southern
[01:44:36] Utah. I'm doing my best here to keep you
[01:44:37] awake and informed. I'm doing everything
[01:44:38] I can. And my favorite humble host,
[01:44:41] Baron, would you consider an appearance
[01:44:43] on one of the Trigger Smart live streams
[01:44:45] during the hearing this week? No
[01:44:46] pressure. If you had time, it would be
[01:44:48] great. Um,
[01:44:52] I thought about, he gave me a link. I
[01:44:54] thought about jumping in today. I don't
[01:44:56] know. I don't know. Uh, because I'm
[01:44:58] watching it and prepping at the same
[01:44:59] time. Now, tomorrow I don't have
[01:45:01] anything to prep, but tomorrow I got
[01:45:02] plans. I won't be able to be there. Um,
[01:45:05] and so I will be um,
[01:45:08] again, like I said, we have the funeral
[01:45:10] in the morning and then u in the
[01:45:11] afternoon I'm I'm recording with
[01:45:14] with uh Clint and Buckley Carlson. So, I
[01:45:17] I won't be able to do it tomorrow. And
[01:45:22] uh Wednesday I'll play by ear Wednesday
[01:45:24] and Thursday because I'm planning to do
[01:45:25] shows that night and then Friday I
[01:45:26] usually do a member show. So we'll we'll
[01:45:28] see. Maybe we can do something with the
[01:45:29] members show with it. Stay tuned. Stay
[01:45:32] tuned. Uh stop crashing out on X to
[01:45:34] watch this. Oh researcher. That's Daisy.
[01:45:37] [laughter] I was like wait a minute. You
[01:45:39] got a name like Daisy. That is Daisy. Uh
[01:45:41] well don't crash out on X. Bad for the
[01:45:43] brand. Feels like Andrew Kovvette is
[01:45:45] intentionally trying to entrap Candace
[01:45:47] this week to keep her mind away from the
[01:45:49] trial. Personally, if I was Candace, I
[01:45:51] would not reply to him and let him stew.
[01:45:53] Oh, I think she's doing brilliant work.
[01:45:56] I mean, think about all the
[01:45:59] She basically got Andrew on
[01:46:02] X calling Charlie a demon.
[01:46:07] Like, who would have thought that was
[01:46:08] coming? Not I. Not I. Meatloaf for
[01:46:11] dinner. It was great. That is all. Uh,
[01:46:13] I've had good meatloaf. I've had bad
[01:46:14] meatloaf. Had very bad meatloaf.
[01:46:19] Uh, what do you when do you what day do
[01:46:21] you expect LT's recording? Um, I would
[01:46:24] think the uh all the conversations
[01:46:27] between Lance and Tyler would come
[01:46:29] towards the end of the week, but I don't
[01:46:30] know. That's just my guess. You That's
[01:46:32] how I would set it up if I was the
[01:46:33] prosecutor. I would end with a flourish.
[01:46:36] That's going to be the most damning
[01:46:37] evidence. Don't underestimate jewels.
[01:46:40] During or following a broadcast, the
[01:46:41] jury can send Baron jewels as a monetary
[01:46:44] applause, an alternative to engaging in
[01:46:45] supers. 2016 Twitch cheer bits set us
[01:46:49] trend on many platforms. Thank you.
[01:46:50] Appreciate that. I know people hate
[01:46:52] them. [laughter]
[01:46:54] Erica decided to dress like Wednesday
[01:46:56] Adams for court today. How appropriate.
[01:46:58] Uh I didn't see her outfit. I just saw
[01:47:00] her scamper in. I didn't see her scamper
[01:47:02] out. If all their witnesses are like
[01:47:05] Officer Bagley, Tyler's in good shape.
[01:47:07] And that prosecutor was so lost.
[01:47:09] Uh,
[01:47:12] keep in mind all they've got to do is
[01:47:13] get past the preliminary hearing. It's a
[01:47:15] very low hurdle. Very low hurdle. It's
[01:47:18] like a stepping over of a a one- foot
[01:47:21] concrete block. I mean, some somebody
[01:47:23] may trip on it, but it's not very often.
[01:47:25] Crash out is exhausting. Hurt dogs bite.
[01:47:27] Yes, crisis king indeed. Surgeon being
[01:47:30] blocked from the trauma room disturbs
[01:47:32] me. Also, the me being promoted
[01:47:34] afterwards, just like in Butler,
[01:47:35] suspect. Same playbook.
[01:47:38] Uh yeah, he's not the only one. I think
[01:47:40] that officer that testified today got a
[01:47:43] Kush job in another location making more
[01:47:45] money like more than double is what I
[01:47:47] heard. Whether that's true or not, I
[01:47:49] think it's true. Uh no, on section 219
[01:47:52] of the NDAA, well, you're a traders
[01:47:54] representative now. Thank you. Uh I was
[01:47:56] not wellelmed quite underwhelmed, Jill.
[01:47:59] I was not wellemed either. And I know
[01:48:00] you're a lawyer
[01:48:02] and I was watching it like a lawyer. I
[01:48:04] was not wellelmed at all.
[01:48:06] I'm I'm assuming this is going to be
[01:48:08] their worst day. If it's not, they're in
[01:48:10] trouble. If they have a day worse than
[01:48:12] this, the prosecution's in trouble. And
[01:48:13] I don't think they're in trouble.
[01:48:14] Erica's stylist took away her glitter
[01:48:17] pants and gave her her Black Widow
[01:48:19] wardrobe for today. Um, yeah. I wonder
[01:48:24] if we're going to do that red carpet
[01:48:25] thing every day. I'll be interested to
[01:48:26] see who goes in tomorrow.
[01:48:28] Didn't see hear anything that pointed to
[01:48:30] TR as a shooter. Yeah, same. I think
[01:48:33] that's all going to come through the
[01:48:34] text messages and that's pretty shady to
[01:48:36] me.
[01:48:38] You know, I think it's pretty shady. And
[01:48:41] not only that, go back and read the text
[01:48:43] messages. Read the Discord. He never
[01:48:45] says, "I shot Charlie Kirk." He talked
[01:48:49] about, if you believe he even wrote all
[01:48:52] of them. He never says, "I took the
[01:48:53] shot."
[01:48:55] He says, "I had a chance to take him
[01:48:56] out. I took it." That could be part of a
[01:48:57] bigger plan.
[01:48:59] He says, "Um, some hate camp
[01:49:03] There's nothing that says I'm the guy.
[01:49:04] How long you been playing this? About a
[01:49:06] week. Didn't say I planned it alone.
[01:49:08] I don't I don't know. I I think even the
[01:49:10] text messages leave a little wiggle
[01:49:11] room. Instead of CK stuff, I want to
[01:49:14] instead share suggest a post wind down
[01:49:16] tune. It won't let me paste link. So
[01:49:18] instead, I just type into YouTube. Gary
[01:49:19] Moore still got the blues. Okay, thank
[01:49:21] you. Uh BBB first one to tell snitch.
[01:49:25] When's the deal? Just ask Sammy the bull
[01:49:27] gravo on John Gotti. Is Tusa the new
[01:49:30] Gambino crime family? What say you?
[01:49:33] Would make a good opening statement. Um,
[01:49:35] I've actually read and watched quite a
[01:49:37] bit about Sammy the Bull Gravano and
[01:49:38] John Gotti. That would be a cool opening
[01:49:40] statement. You know where he lives or
[01:49:42] where they put him in witness
[01:49:44] protection? Scottsdale. [laughter]
[01:49:46] Wow. What a kinky dink. Yeah,
[01:49:48] Scottsdale. That's where uh Sammy the
[01:49:50] Bull went.
[01:49:52] I'm sure it's a coincidence. Uh, do you
[01:49:54] expect prosecution to put forward
[01:49:55] admissible evidence first, then move
[01:49:57] more solid move the more solid stuff
[01:49:59] later as a tactic?
[01:50:02] Uh, that's
[01:50:06] I mean
[01:50:08] I I I don't understand what you're
[01:50:10] saying because to be solid it would have
[01:50:11] to be admissible.
[01:50:14] I don't know. I don't know what you're
[01:50:14] saying. Uh, but I do expect the end to
[01:50:17] be a flourish. I think the last day or
[01:50:18] two is going to be going to be their
[01:50:20] their big shebang. Like a like a
[01:50:22] fireworks display. What do you call that
[01:50:24] at the end? Not the flourish. What is
[01:50:26] that? Not an ensemble. What is it? The
[01:50:30] the the big thing at the end. Whatever
[01:50:31] that's called. I'll switch over to the
[01:50:34] other comments. What do you guys call
[01:50:35] that?
[01:50:37] I can't No, you guys don't know either.
[01:50:39] [laughter]
[01:50:41] Whatever it's called. The big shebang at
[01:50:43] the end. That's uh that's probably how
[01:50:45] they'll do it. Uh, pronounced like
[01:50:46] Lindsay.
[01:50:48] Fair enough. Baron, I've been excitedly
[01:50:50] waiting for your live and intermittently
[01:50:52] watching the receipts you dropped on X.
[01:50:54] Thank you for keeping in step and
[01:50:56] assisting the principal. Oh, I do. Yeah,
[01:50:59] I'm a big fan. Big fan of the principal.
[01:51:02] My B is objecting to everything a
[01:51:04] strategy. Uh, no, not at all. Uh, it's
[01:51:06] it's well, I mean, it's strategy in the
[01:51:08] sense that you have to preserve your
[01:51:10] objections on the record, but no, you
[01:51:12] you've got to if you don't make an
[01:51:13] objection, you can't raise it on appeal.
[01:51:15] You got to You got to get it out there.
[01:51:17] Unwilling floater. Flush it. Oh no.
[01:51:20] [laughter]
[01:51:21] That's not what they're talking about.
[01:51:22] That's not what they're talking about.
[01:51:24] Hey Brandon, didn't you know mountain of
[01:51:25] evidence equals hearsay? And trust me,
[01:51:27] bro. The prosecution should be
[01:51:28] embarrassed. Christ is king indeed. Uh I
[01:51:31] think they had a terrible day if I'm
[01:51:33] being honest. You know, if it's like a
[01:51:35] boxing match and you're scoring by
[01:51:36] rounds, it's 109 defense today. There's
[01:51:38] no doubt.
[01:51:40] There's no doubt.
[01:51:42] Uh maybe even 108. Like maybe they took
[01:51:44] a fall and you can take a point off. Uh
[01:51:47] and Erica and his parents didn't show up
[01:51:49] together or sit together. Instead, Don
[01:51:50] Jr. sat with her. She's going to need a
[01:51:54] lot of fake tears for this week. I'm not
[01:51:56] sure that's entirely accurate, but I I
[01:51:58] don't know where they sat. I thought
[01:52:03] I thought there was a court
[01:52:04] representative and then Mr. Kirk and
[01:52:06] then Mrs. Kirk and then Erica. That's
[01:52:08] what I thought happened, but I could be
[01:52:10] wrong. I don't know why I think that. I
[01:52:12] thought I read it somewhere. Thoroughly
[01:52:14] enjoy your enthusiasm, wit, knowledge,
[01:52:16] and faith. God bless and keep the
[01:52:18] Coleman family. Oh yeah, Christ is king
[01:52:21] indeed. Doing our best here. Doing our
[01:52:22] best here. Granddaughters here.
[01:52:24] [laughter]
[01:52:25] Granddaughters been here all day. Hard
[01:52:27] to prep. Hard to prep. Um, please
[01:52:30] explain what hearsay is to folks
[01:52:35] and circumstantial evidence. Watch with
[01:52:37] trigger and a military guy they clearly
[01:52:38] don't know. They have no reason to, but
[01:52:41] it drove me nuts confusing the two.
[01:52:42] Sure. Hearsay is an out of court
[01:52:44] statement
[01:52:45] um asserted in court uh uh presented in
[01:52:48] court to assert the truth of the matter
[01:52:49] asserted.
[01:52:51] So if I want to prove that um Bill ran a
[01:52:55] red light, but I didn't see Bill run a
[01:52:56] red light.
[01:52:59] Uh Jim saw Bill run a red light and told
[01:53:01] me all about it. And then I go sit in
[01:53:03] court. So I'm in court, but I'm
[01:53:05] recounting an outofc court statement.
[01:53:07] Meaning I'm telling I'm telling the jury
[01:53:10] that Jim
[01:53:12] that that Jim told me that Bill ran the
[01:53:14] red light. That's hearsay.
[01:53:17] That's actually double hearsay, but
[01:53:18] that's hearsay. Um
[01:53:21] it's double hearsay because uh No, no,
[01:53:24] it's it's hearsay. That's his outofc
[01:53:26] court statement and I'm giving it to you
[01:53:29] in court for the truth of the matter
[01:53:31] asserted. Meaning that Bill ran the red
[01:53:33] light. There are times
[01:53:37] when a witness will be allowed to hear
[01:53:40] an a question premised on hearsay or be
[01:53:43] able to provide an answer on hearsay and
[01:53:46] it's things like it happened today. Um
[01:53:49] the effect on the listener.
[01:53:51] So if you're asking why did you go
[01:53:53] investigate the crime scene? Well Jim
[01:53:56] told me that Bill ran a red light. Oh
[01:53:59] well objection hears say. Well, yeah,
[01:54:01] technically, but I'm not trying to I'm
[01:54:03] not using the statement to say Bill ran
[01:54:06] the red light. I'm using the statement
[01:54:07] to say why I responded to the accident
[01:54:10] scene. So, although it's hearsay, we're
[01:54:13] going to allow the question and the
[01:54:14] answer to be heard by the jury.
[01:54:18] So, it's that's hearsay though. It's an
[01:54:20] outofc court statement issued in court
[01:54:23] to establish truth. I'll give you a
[01:54:26] example from this case. Nearly
[01:54:29] everything you heard today was hearsay.
[01:54:31] Uh what the medical examiner said, well
[01:54:33] that's an out of court statement and it
[01:54:36] was presented in court today for the
[01:54:39] truth of the matter asserted, namely how
[01:54:40] Charlie Kirk died, what was the cause of
[01:54:42] death.
[01:54:44] Lance Twig's um statement they're going
[01:54:47] to put up of him, the recorded
[01:54:48] statement. I don't know if that's going
[01:54:50] to be on paper or that's going to be uh
[01:54:52] a video, but either way, it's hearsay.
[01:54:55] It's an outofc court statement. In other
[01:54:57] words, Lance Twigs isn't sitting in the
[01:54:59] witness chair. Someone else will be
[01:55:00] sitting in the witness chair and they'll
[01:55:02] be saying, "Here's what Lance Twig
[01:55:04] said." And then they'll either show you
[01:55:05] or they'll play it. That's hearsay.
[01:55:08] So, if it's not hearsay, it has to be
[01:55:10] said in court and it has to be your
[01:55:12] personal observation, reflection, or
[01:55:14] understanding.
[01:55:15] Um,
[01:55:17] I hope that clarifies that
[01:55:19] circumstantial evidence. Uh, it's just,
[01:55:22] you know, uh, we don't have him pulling
[01:55:23] the gun, but we have him at the scene.
[01:55:25] That's circumstantial.
[01:55:27] You could you could then draw the
[01:55:28] conclus you can infer he must have fired
[01:55:30] the gun. He was at the scene. Um but
[01:55:34] that's not direct evidence he fired the
[01:55:36] gun. That's not like a video of him
[01:55:38] firing the gun or eyewitness saying he
[01:55:40] fired the gun. That's not
[01:55:40] circumstantial. That's direct evidence.
[01:55:44] So I hope that clears it up.
[01:55:47] Tell me Stacy Sheridan doesn't remind
[01:55:48] you of Helen Pierce, the cartel lawyer
[01:55:51] from Ozark. Never seen it. I don't watch
[01:55:53] a lot of television. Are we the public
[01:55:55] an extension of Robinson's defense?
[01:55:58] Public defenders, if you will. No.
[01:56:02] No. We're just interested observers and
[01:56:04] commentators. 20 years ago, I lost my
[01:56:06] husband to another woman. I sobbed for
[01:56:09] three years straight. I was
[01:56:10] inconsolable. Couldn't function, eat, or
[01:56:12] drink.
[01:56:15] That is what grief looks like. Erica is
[01:56:16] not grieving is not a grieving widow.
[01:56:19] Christ is king indeed. Uh I I as I've
[01:56:22] stated many times, that case is going to
[01:56:25] have a lot of trouble if they get widows
[01:56:28] on that jury and and they are at all
[01:56:31] familiar with Erica Kirk. Like if they
[01:56:33] get widows on the jury, they better
[01:56:34] never have seen a clip of Erica Kirk
[01:56:37] because if they see the glitter pants
[01:56:38] suit and the fireworks, it's
[01:56:41] it's going to be tough to convict Tyler
[01:56:43] Robinson. Looks like she did him a
[01:56:45] favor. [laughter] Did her a favor? Uh he
[01:56:48] did her a favor. It was a great dir of
[01:56:51] evidence today. Darth is a good word.
[01:56:54] But we all know the Fed sloppers on X
[01:56:56] are going to continue with their open
[01:56:57] and shut views, especially Tatum.
[01:57:00] Looking forward to our humble host. I
[01:57:02] highQ. Well, I hope you got it. Hope
[01:57:04] [clears throat] you got it. Uh Baron,
[01:57:08] I might have used that expression on X
[01:57:10] today
[01:57:12] with the asterisk. I didn't spell it
[01:57:14] out,
[01:57:16] but I said that they're turning him into
[01:57:18] a that word liar. And I and I said it
[01:57:21] cuz I'm angry. I'm angry.
[01:57:26] So, you're right, Pamela. Uh why don't
[01:57:29] all states carry the same trial laws
[01:57:31] according to the US Constitution. All
[01:57:33] the hearsay seems very unconstitutional.
[01:57:35] Christ is king indeed. Because we're not
[01:57:37] a federal system. We're a state system.
[01:57:41] Each state is its own entity. Just the
[01:57:44] same reason France and England don't
[01:57:45] have the same laws or or Germany. They
[01:57:47] have weird laws. Same reason Germany and
[01:57:49] France don't have the same laws even
[01:57:50] though they share common order. I'm
[01:57:52] curious what yours and Daisy's thoughts
[01:57:54] will be about the flash drive. Thanks
[01:57:56] for everything you both do to keep us
[01:57:57] informed on so much. We appreciate you.
[01:57:59] I hope I gave it to you. Uh if AK ever
[01:58:02] had an intelligent thought, it passed
[01:58:03] away from loneliness. Oh, goodness
[01:58:05] gracious. That's an That's an
[01:58:07] interesting way to put it. Uh, showed
[01:58:09] the wrong mountain of evidence. Twin
[01:58:11] Peaks. Oh gosh. Talking about Stacy.
[01:58:14] [laughter]
[01:58:15] Mountains of evidence.
[01:58:18] Baron in red cuz he's on fire. It was a
[01:58:20] conscious decision if I'm being honest.
[01:58:22] I I was so mad today watching all this.
[01:58:24] It really was the X stuff that made me
[01:58:26] so mad. Good day, guys. You are bloody
[01:58:29] awesome. It's the best I can do. Uh, I'm
[01:58:32] claiming number one most Australian
[01:58:33] Australian listening to you while at
[01:58:35] work. Saw a brown snake, pushed it with
[01:58:37] a broom to the door in a bucket and kept
[01:58:40] listening. You just gave me all the more
[01:58:42] reason not to go to Australia ever. You
[01:58:44] guys have weird animals. I just stopped
[01:58:47] watching the last episode to watch this.
[01:58:48] Oh, don't do that.
[01:58:50] Go back and finish it. It was good. If I
[01:58:53] if I do say so myself. Have you looked
[01:58:55] into Jim Baker, Billy Graham's fam, and
[01:58:57] Greg Lori connections? No. Victor Marks
[01:59:00] is also sprinkled in. Baker helps young
[01:59:03] Prago moms now.
[01:59:08] Not sure he should be doing that. I
[01:59:10] mean, there's other people that can do.
[01:59:11] Uh, second witness from today's
[01:59:13] preliminary trial blinked more than
[01:59:14] paramount untactical
[01:59:16] when trying to provide Andrew's photo of
[01:59:18] proof for Erica. Embarrassing.
[01:59:21] Max B. Crisis King indeed.
[01:59:25] the Australian guy.
[01:59:32] Yeah, it wasn't pretty. [laughter]
[01:59:35] Stacy showed up like Suellen Mishki.
[01:59:38] Yeah. I mean, I'm not sure who advised
[01:59:41] her to wear that to court. Like, we
[01:59:43] cover up in court.
[01:59:47] From below the knee to the neck and
[01:59:50] arms. Like, that's court. It's court.
[01:59:54] Uh, my B, I am that small channel that
[01:59:56] started. I am twoshot ass for subs. Help
[01:59:58] me. Love you. Not too shy. You just did.
[02:00:01] Uh, love you, B. Love, FYI. Started
[02:00:04] watching shows since episode seven.
[02:00:05] Never missed one yet. Just winging it.
[02:00:07] Seven. Thank you. I appreciate it.
[02:00:10] Uh, give them enough rope, Baron. The
[02:00:12] pressure is breaking them. Follow the
[02:00:13] money. I hear TPS USA is dumping it
[02:00:15] fast. Christ is king indeed. Well,
[02:00:17] Andrew is not helping. Going to people
[02:00:20] and say, "Hey, we're running Charlie's
[02:00:21] organization. And did you know he's a
[02:00:22] piece of trash and lied all the time?
[02:00:25] Donate millions to us. I'm not sure
[02:00:27] that's the way to do it. Thank you so
[02:00:29] much for your kind appreciation
[02:00:31] of your faith. It has brought me to the
[02:00:33] Catholic faith and I'm so grateful.
[02:00:34] Enjoy your grandbaby. Oh, thank you.
[02:00:36] Very kind of you.
[02:00:38] I'm always happy to hear people are
[02:00:40] going back to church. I really am. Um,
[02:00:44] you know, it's uh
[02:00:48] it's most important thing. most
[02:00:50] important thing. I am enjoying my Grammy
[02:00:52] and thank you. Uh, hi VP. After your
[02:00:55] opening statement, I feel like poor
[02:00:57] Charlie Kirk was 100% handled. Yes,
[02:00:59] that's why I gave the opening statement.
[02:01:01] Uh, lol on Andrew Meltdown, your
[02:01:03] favorite Humble County fan. PS, in my 48
[02:01:06] years, I've never partaken in the export
[02:01:08] here. I swear Christ is king indeed.
[02:01:10] Good. I just watched a documentary on
[02:01:13] Humbult County and it looked like
[02:01:14] everybody was stoned all the time, but
[02:01:16] I'm sure that was just like one
[02:01:17] neighborhood. Uh, bring it on. I'm
[02:01:19] fuming today as I've continued to learn
[02:01:21] how much slop is being thrown around to
[02:01:23] discredit and smear Candace. I'm
[02:01:25] completely disgusted by these evil
[02:01:27] chumps. They always do this when she
[02:01:29] goes on vacation. They don't do this
[02:01:31] when she's in the office. Sir B
[02:01:33] infiltration op vibes here. Bill M found
[02:01:36] Charlie Kirk at 18. Yeah, weird, huh? AK
[02:01:39] and JM create a scandal to enter TPSA.
[02:01:42] Yeah, weird, huh? Erica steps in and
[02:01:44] gets the ring. Yeah, weird, huh? faith
[02:01:47] depart swoops in like flies on dudu and
[02:01:51] now they're all in charge. Yeah. Weird,
[02:01:53] huh? [laughter]
[02:01:54] Got a pretty good read on it. Similar to
[02:01:56] mine. Thoughts on Candace being an
[02:01:58] unwinning asset on the Shawn Ryan
[02:02:00] interviews? He acted ignorant on issues
[02:02:03] he should have been aware of, leading
[02:02:05] Candace to explain further. Well, I
[02:02:07] hadn't really analyzed it in that way.
[02:02:10] Um,
[02:02:11] it's an interview tactic. I noticed
[02:02:13] Tucker does it a lot. Uh, he'll say,
[02:02:14] "Now, who's that?" and he knows exactly
[02:02:16] who it is, but he wants to, you know,
[02:02:18] give the glory to the guest. You're
[02:02:19] having a guest on. People are tuning in
[02:02:21] to hear the guest. Let the guest say who
[02:02:22] it is. Tucker could say, "Oh, that's so
[02:02:24] and so." You know him. But he doesn't.
[02:02:26] He doesn't. Who's that? Uh, first super
[02:02:29] chat questions. One, SUV passenger
[02:02:31] carpet placed between two seats to catch
[02:02:33] debris. I don't think so. Uh, two,
[02:02:36] possible feds cleared hospital in
[02:02:38] advance and no witnesses and pulled
[02:02:40] cameras nobody knew.
[02:02:43] I don't know that that's true either.
[02:02:46] I don't know that's true either. Hello,
[02:02:49] beautiful people. AK is trying his best
[02:02:50] to make us believe, all believe CK was
[02:02:53] Charlie's uh sorry, Charlie was
[02:02:56] Candace's handler. Does he not realize
[02:02:58] Candace can't be controlled? Just ask
[02:03:00] the people who fired her. Love and
[02:03:01] prayers. Yeah. Uh
[02:03:07] I mean, just making Charlie look like a
[02:03:09] liar. It's bad. Like it's a terrible
[02:03:11] thing he's doing. Uh, my B, thank you
[02:03:14] for saying all things I was yelling
[02:03:15] during trial all day in the first few
[02:03:17] minutes of your show. Phew. I didn't
[02:03:19] know who Charlie Kirk was. Watched
[02:03:21] Charlie Kirk debates, then saw Candace,
[02:03:22] then found you. Watch daily. Thank you,
[02:03:24] Crisis King. Indeed. Well, Renee, that's
[02:03:25] wonderful. Thank you. Appreciate that. I
[02:03:27] like that you got Crisis King in your
[02:03:29] name there. Andrew just admitted they
[02:03:30] were managing Charlie and Charlie seemed
[02:03:32] to be irritated by it. Yeah. [laughter]
[02:03:36] Yeah, exactly.
[02:03:38] Andrew wasn't the only one crashing out.
[02:03:39] So was Gary. Meltdown. Really having a
[02:03:41] meltdown today? He'll be so irrelevant
[02:03:42] he doesn't show up on my feed. Like
[02:03:44] that's that's how small he
[02:03:48] uh Charlie was living the American dream
[02:03:50] but woke up in our greatest allies
[02:03:52] territory. Uh
[02:03:57] yeah maybe maybe uh best part exiting a
[02:04:00] Delta flight while listening to you. The
[02:04:01] captain smiled and said listening to my
[02:04:02] humble host. Oh
[02:04:05] also funny how to wait for the trial
[02:04:07] mattered for Chovin but not Tyler. Oh
[02:04:09] that's a good point. That's the last Let
[02:04:11] me do the Let me do them in reverse
[02:04:12] order. The last point's very true. I
[02:04:13] forgot about that. That was a big
[02:04:14] talking point on the right. Oh, wait for
[02:04:16] the trial. Wait for the trial. But Tyler
[02:04:18] doesn't get the same benefit. Um, I'm
[02:04:21] glad to know we're being hurt at 35,000
[02:04:23] ft, though. Pilots, thank you. You do
[02:04:26] good service. Get everybody there
[02:04:27] safely.
[02:04:29] Uh, Charlie was very subdued. 910, not
[02:04:32] himself. Did he see a handler in the
[02:04:34] audience or he just knew? I felt this
[02:04:36] from day one. It's never mentioned.
[02:04:41] You got to think about what was going on
[02:04:42] in Charlie's life the the couple of days
[02:04:44] before. Now, he didn't sleep well the
[02:04:47] night before because
[02:04:50] for whatever reason, he didn't sleep
[02:04:52] well at all the night before. Um,
[02:04:56] and he's texting people saying they're
[02:04:58] going to kill me. I don't think he had
[02:05:00] to see anybody in the audience. I think
[02:05:02] just that alone is going to make you
[02:05:04] subdued. No, he didn't seen him seem
[02:05:06] himself either. And if you go to Charles
[02:05:07] Mcccleintoch Wilson's photo album called
[02:05:11] I Last Set or something like that,
[02:05:13] whatever it is, um it's pictures of
[02:05:15] Charlie right before it starts and he
[02:05:18] almost looks like he's falling asleep in
[02:05:19] the chair. It's very sad.
[02:05:24] How does one aspire to be a handler?
[02:05:25] Does it pay well? LOL aka Yokoono, John
[02:05:29] Lennin, Stacy Sheridan, Erica Kirk,
[02:05:31] Peter Teal, JD Vance, or all the
[02:05:33] honeypods that marry a politician?
[02:05:37] Uh, I don't know because I'm not a
[02:05:38] handler. I have no idea how it works. I
[02:05:40] don't know if you go to like handler
[02:05:42] school or
[02:05:44] they find you and compromise. I I don't
[02:05:46] know. I don't know.
[02:05:48] But they're they're out there. I know
[02:05:49] that. My last day in my 30s today.
[02:05:51] Excited to be alive for my 40s. My
[02:05:54] birthday prayer is that I stay sober and
[02:05:56] close to God. The full truth and justice
[02:05:58] comes to all involved in Charlie Kirk's
[02:06:00] death.
[02:06:02] I hope you stay sober. I will certainly
[02:06:05] pray for you for that. Um,
[02:06:08] the 40s are my best decade. I enjoyed
[02:06:11] the 30s, but I'm really enjoying my 40s
[02:06:14] if I'm being honest. Uh, level of AK
[02:06:16] crash out on day one. Wonder how bad it
[02:06:18] will get as the hearing goes on through
[02:06:19] the week. Psych, moral crisis, or
[02:06:21] distraction from hearing, uh, air
[02:06:24] hearing. Um,
[02:06:28] I I I started off by thinking he might
[02:06:31] have just been like hung over or still
[02:06:33] drunk from the July 4th when it started.
[02:06:36] I really didn't know what to make of it.
[02:06:38] I have no idea why he chose to do that
[02:06:41] today. This is obviously a conscious
[02:06:43] decision to to attack Candace this way
[02:06:46] and act like they weren't friends, but I
[02:06:48] don't know. Uh, watched MK's clip with
[02:06:50] three attorneys. I want to have an open
[02:06:52] mind to the evidence against TR, but
[02:06:54] listening to MK and the panel of experts
[02:06:56] defend the Fed slop with no opposing
[02:06:57] view is infuriating.
[02:07:03] Uh
[02:07:06] yeah, [laughter]
[02:07:08] I don't know what to say about Yeah. I
[02:07:10] mean, I watched a bit of it. She was one
[02:07:11] of the channels I flipped around on.
[02:07:13] Hearing relied entirely on hearsay for
[02:07:15] probable cause. Correct. If we're
[02:07:17] bypassing the Sixth Amendment's
[02:07:18] confrontation clause at the preliminary
[02:07:20] stage, is there a defense left or is it
[02:07:23] just a rubber stamp? Um
[02:07:31] uh
[02:07:35] so
[02:07:37] it's it this is hard to explain because
[02:07:39] he's being held against his will without
[02:07:40] bail.
[02:07:43] So, normally
[02:07:45] in a preliminary hearing, you you you're
[02:07:47] not in prison or you're not in jail,
[02:07:49] you're at home
[02:07:52] or you at least you have the opportunity
[02:07:53] to go home. Most people are have are
[02:07:55] offered bail. He was not. And so, to me,
[02:07:58] it takes on a different requirement.
[02:08:03] They should have to meet a higher burden
[02:08:05] if no bail is offered. I think that's if
[02:08:07] I'm the Supreme Court, that's kind of
[02:08:08] how I look at this is no longer is it
[02:08:11] just determining whether you have to
[02:08:12] face trial, in which case the lower
[02:08:14] burden, I get it. Just what are we doing
[02:08:16] here? Do you have anything? Okay, let's
[02:08:18] go trial, see how it works out. But
[02:08:20] that's fine when you're home or at least
[02:08:22] have the opportunity to go home. It's
[02:08:24] altogether different when you don't. I
[02:08:26] mean, this honestly, this trial, we
[02:08:27] think it'll probably kick off at the end
[02:08:29] of 2027. It doesn't have to. It could be
[02:08:31] 2028 or later before he goes to trial.
[02:08:35] I mean, you're going to hold a man for
[02:08:37] three years against his will on hearsay
[02:08:41] testimony and fuzzy video footage and
[02:08:44] unauthenticated text. That seems awfully
[02:08:47] shady. Uh, there seems to be an epidemic
[02:08:49] of camera malfunctions. Technocrats
[02:08:51] should be very concerned about this. Oh,
[02:08:53] you know, the only cameras not
[02:08:54] malfunctioning, flock cameras. They
[02:08:56] don't malfunction at all. They work
[02:08:58] every time. Uh, prayers for my fur baby.
[02:09:01] She just got bit by a rattlesnake. Let's
[02:09:03] catch up later. Oh goodness.
[02:09:05] Hope you get that taken care of. EK
[02:09:08] finally shows up wearing all black and
[02:09:10] not lace. The only time I've ever seen
[02:09:11] her in all black, she had lace on. Oh,
[02:09:12] other than the uh Italian server outfit
[02:09:15] where she went crazy on camera. Uh SS
[02:09:18] and her seven-year-old EK haircut.
[02:09:21] [laughter]
[02:09:22] You know, there's that picture of Erica
[02:09:23] Kirk as a kid. Let me see if I can find
[02:09:25] She's got the same haircut.
[02:09:28] Uh let's see if I can find it here.
[02:09:32] Where is it? Oh, there it is. Look,
[02:09:37] she's wearing the Stacy Sheridan. Hold
[02:09:39] on. Let me let me back out of this.
[02:09:40] There we go. Uh, there we go. You got to
[02:09:42] look at the right hand side of your
[02:09:43] screen here. Oh, I guess there's a
[02:09:45] colored one right next to it.
[02:09:48] Look, that's the same haircut Stacy
[02:09:50] Sheridan showed up with today.
[02:09:54] It's wild, huh?
[02:09:58] Now, I don't know. Maybe that's some
[02:09:59] handler stuff. I don't know what they
[02:10:00] do. I guess we know who's been dressing
[02:10:03] Erica's. It's I literally zero style and
[02:10:06] flattery for Erica's body shape, modern
[02:10:09] fashion, or occasion. Burn the pink
[02:10:10] dress. Um, I'm going to take it easy on
[02:10:14] what she wears. I'm not a fashion.
[02:10:19] I'm not a big fashionista.
[02:10:21] I'm in Adidas joggers and Adidas hoodie
[02:10:25] and socks. Adidas socks. That should be
[02:10:27] sponsored. They should sponsor me. What
[02:10:29] do you What are you guys waiting on? Uh,
[02:10:31] well, we now know who's dressing EK.
[02:10:33] Both never wearing appropriate attire.
[02:10:35] Softcore.
[02:10:37] Yes. Yes, it was softcore. It was It
[02:10:41] reminded me of that video uh that Victor
[02:10:43] Marx watched to uh to to talk about
[02:10:46] princess warriors or warrior princesses.
[02:10:49] [laughter]
[02:10:50] Same vibes.
[02:10:52] Don't watch that, by the way. It's not
[02:10:54] it's not won't help your walk with God.
[02:10:57] Erica didn't even stop till the end.
[02:11:02] I don't know what that means. Uh, stop
[02:11:04] texting about lady gardens to Oh gosh.
[02:11:07] [laughter]
[02:11:09] Baron, did you really start the opening
[02:11:10] statement without signaling this is your
[02:11:12] opening statement with the hands? Oh
[02:11:13] man, I did, didn't I? Sorry guys. Thank
[02:11:16] you for your work. I learning a lot
[02:11:17] every day. Oh gosh,
[02:11:19] I apologize. Maybe maybe I can get my
[02:11:22] editor to go back and add that in. But
[02:11:24] he only edits the clips channel. So I
[02:11:25] don't I don't know if I I have to pay
[02:11:27] him to make an edit on this. It'll just
[02:11:29] be me and all a sudden go and it'll be
[02:11:31] right back to it. [laughter] Clip clip.
[02:11:34] Mountain of evidence is the size of
[02:11:35] Denmark's mountain. Boy, if I knew more
[02:11:38] about geography, I would get that. That
[02:11:40] looked like Blake win with Erica.
[02:11:49] I know he was at the TPUSA Founders
[02:11:51] Bowl.
[02:11:53] I don't think that was him, but I don't
[02:11:54] know.
[02:11:57] I heard Uncle Bester and Aunt Kushner
[02:12:00] were watching the Kirk kids. There were
[02:12:04] shells found on a different building in
[02:12:06] a random gun holster. Crazy. Christ is
[02:12:08] king indeed. Well,
[02:12:11] so let's not fall victim to what the
[02:12:12] prosecution is doing here.
[02:12:15] Things that come out of the mouths of
[02:12:17] lawyers are not evidence. We cannot fall
[02:12:19] victim to them.
[02:12:23] So the fact that she said that doesn't
[02:12:24] mean that there were bulletshells on
[02:12:26] another building.
[02:12:29] That said,
[02:12:32] lawyers
[02:12:34] are advised not to make wild. What are
[02:12:36] your thoughts on them? Um, hang on just
[02:12:37] a second.
[02:12:43] I was told.
[02:12:48] Um,
[02:12:50] I don't know. I don't know. Um,
[02:12:58] I had a conversation with an accountant
[02:12:59] about it and I cannot honestly can't
[02:13:01] remember what the advice was. I need to
[02:13:03] I need to go back and revisit that
[02:13:05] conversation. This is because it's been
[02:13:06] like 6 months.
[02:13:09] Good reminder. Thank you. I don't know
[02:13:11] that I have thoughts on them right now.
[02:13:12] Not educated thoughts that I'm ready to
[02:13:13] share. I watched on trigger smart today.
[02:13:16] He was fantastic. People kept asking him
[02:13:18] to get you on the show. You are so
[02:13:21] loved. I was so excited to see you
[02:13:22] today. Utah Trust Me Bro Courthouse live
[02:13:25] all week.
[02:13:27] Well, thank you, Lovey.
[02:13:30] Thank you. Um, I might jump on for a
[02:13:33] minute here and there, but I I I don't I
[02:13:35] don't want to do like an all day feed.
[02:13:37] Baron, do we remember EK saying she is
[02:13:39] pregnant with Charlie Kirk's third child
[02:13:40] in interview? I don't I think she said
[02:13:42] she hoped she was.
[02:13:45] Number one from Montreal speaking
[02:13:47] Frenchie. Uh seems DJT Jr. being pus son
[02:13:52] is intimidation.
[02:13:57] I hadn't thought of it that way. Per MTG
[02:14:00] on Mario
[02:14:03] DJT posted on Truth Social after CK
[02:14:05] elimination referred to CK as Schlommo
[02:14:07] Pearl
[02:14:09] aka useful idiot. Oh,
[02:14:13] unwitting asset.
[02:14:14] [laughter]
[02:14:16] Uh, love you might be. Asking for
[02:14:17] prayers for final custody. Hearing from
[02:14:19] my daughter. She's with my ex and isn't
[02:14:21] safe. Attorney says odds are very, very
[02:14:23] good.
[02:14:26] May the Lord be in your favor if that's
[02:14:28] true. Uh, Baron, I trust you more than
[02:14:30] anyone else to keep us updated on what's
[02:14:32] happening in the courtroom. I'm
[02:14:34] incredibly stressed about this and my
[02:14:35] anxiety just keeps growing. Your updates
[02:14:39] mean a lot to me. Oh, your comments mean
[02:14:40] a lot to me. Thank you. Very kind of
[02:14:42] you. Um,
[02:14:46] a very kind praise. Thank you. Uh, my
[02:14:49] son called and said, "Mom, don't watch."
[02:14:50] He was sorry he had seen it. It's awful.
[02:14:52] Just awful. I've seen it since and
[02:14:54] wished I had listened to him. Love you
[02:14:56] be. Yeah. Um,
[02:15:00] unfortunately, I don't think I would
[02:15:01] have been able to do this show without
[02:15:04] having watched it. So, from that
[02:15:06] perspective, I'm glad I watched it
[02:15:07] because I feel like we made done a lot
[02:15:09] of good work here. Um,
[02:15:13] but like I don't think my wife has ever
[02:15:15] seen it.
[02:15:17] I hope she doesn't. I hope nobody I mean
[02:15:19] I hope nobody who doesn't feel like they
[02:15:21] need to see it hasn't seen it doesn't. I
[02:15:23] stop spanking my cat to watch this. No,
[02:15:25] you can't spank a cat. We've talked
[02:15:27] about this. [laughter]
[02:15:30] King B Edge, don't ridicule Stacy
[02:15:33] Sheridan. She's giving She's another
[02:15:35] grieving cougar. I mean widow. Her girls
[02:15:37] are openly grieving. Oh gosh. Yeah, they
[02:15:40] were open. Uh, gruesome, but I disagree.
[02:15:43] I think every single person should see
[02:15:44] it. People need to understand how awful
[02:15:46] violence murder is.
[02:15:49] That's That's a different take, Jill.
[02:15:52] Different take. Eric and Don Jr. showed
[02:15:54] up just to look at the judge and remind
[02:15:56] him that he's been paid off. That's my
[02:15:58] opinion. And allegedly, they're very
[02:16:00] evil people. Well, that's your opinion.
[02:16:03] So glad we're watching this live. Thanks
[02:16:05] for putting out such top tier content. I
[02:16:07] do my best. I do my best.
[02:16:09] The way you believe in this judge
[02:16:10] reminds me of the old days when you gave
[02:16:13] Erica grace for being a grieving widow.
[02:16:15] I do not trust this judge or defense
[02:16:16] team. Well, Adriana, I don't know that I
[02:16:19] ever said, "Hey, she's a grieving widow
[02:16:21] ging grieving widow. Leave her alone." I
[02:16:23] think what I said was, "You guys make
[02:16:24] your own calls, but as for me, I'm not
[02:16:26] going to sit here and comment on her
[02:16:27] because I don't know how widows are
[02:16:30] supposed to grieve. I've never been
[02:16:31] one." Um, and then she turned out just
[02:16:36] to have a track record I couldn't
[02:16:38] ignore. And I I finally weighed in and
[02:16:40] gave my thoughts. Judges paid off or he
[02:16:43] wouldn't let this go on like this. Well,
[02:16:44] I mean, I don't think he did anything
[02:16:46] wrong today.
[02:16:50] I I really don't. My gut is it's usually
[02:16:53] almost 100% right and this guy's bought
[02:16:55] and paid for it. Well, we'll find out.
[02:16:57] Well, I don't know that we'll find out.
[02:16:58] We'll see how it goes. AK said Charlie
[02:17:00] told him we don't lie. Yet, Mr. Kovette
[02:17:03] and company by saying Charlie and
[02:17:04] Candace weren't friends are saying he
[02:17:06] was a liar. Also, we can't forget the
[02:17:09] glass on the floor. Christ is king
[02:17:10] indeed. Both good points. Hey, B. The
[02:17:13] guy in the courtroom behind the family
[02:17:14] was the wind guy again.
[02:17:20] Yeah, it's two people saying it.
[02:17:23] I don't know that I caught that image.
[02:17:25] Uh, got timed out for mentioning
[02:17:29] pen penetration crisis during the Cold
[02:17:31] War. That wasn't a joke. That really
[02:17:32] happened. Asset recruitment is wild. I
[02:17:35] don't know what that means.
[02:17:37] Um,
[02:17:38] let me see if I can find anybody having
[02:17:40] mentioned Blake Win today. Maybe gotten
[02:17:42] a picture.
[02:17:45] Oh,
[02:17:47] people are saying that's Blake Win, but
[02:17:49] I don't see him.
[02:17:53] Is that the last guy that walks through?
[02:17:58] Uh,
[02:18:00] I don't think that's him.
[02:18:02] I don't think that's him.
[02:18:05] I don't know, but I don't think that's
[02:18:07] him. Uh, when I first saw the big bang
[02:18:10] happen, I screamed and fell to my family
[02:18:13] room floor and baldled my eyes out. My
[02:18:16] hubby and son walked in and I was
[02:18:17] inconsolable. I followed him for years
[02:18:19] and listened to him daily. Now, a lot of
[02:18:21] people had a tough reaction to that.
[02:18:23] Very tough. If a deal is going to be
[02:18:26] offered, at what point would that
[02:18:28] happen? Christ is king indeed. Well, you
[02:18:31] certainly wouldn't entertain a deal
[02:18:32] before the preliminary hearing.
[02:18:35] It would be anytime after next week. You
[02:18:38] think Don Jr. was there to be covered
[02:18:39] for the Secret Service being there to
[02:18:40] protect Erica? Oh, no. It's I don't
[02:18:42] think so. I don't even think they stayed
[02:18:43] in the same place. I can't tell you why
[02:18:44] I think that. Uh Charlie's mom exited
[02:18:47] the courtroom in front of Erica before
[02:18:48] the break. Odd they were sitting
[02:18:50] together. Poor CK's parents.
[02:18:55] Uh I don't know that it's odd they were
[02:18:57] sitting together. I mean, it's her
[02:19:00] daughter-in-law. thoughts on the casing
[02:19:02] found at different location than TR? I
[02:19:04] don't know because I don't we've not
[02:19:07] seen that evidence. First, I heard of
[02:19:08] it. She just off-handedly mentioned it.
[02:19:11] Uh, my B, I owe you a thanks, buddy. My
[02:19:13] PT therapist is a germaphobe and because
[02:19:15] you got me sicky icky, I don't have PT
[02:19:17] now till Friday.
[02:19:20] So, thanks my bee. Haha.
[02:19:23] You better be doing your homework at
[02:19:25] home. Your homework PT you better be
[02:19:26] doing. I've explored how I'd feel if my
[02:19:28] friend was exed in a group text where
[02:19:30] she stuck up for herself surfaced,
[02:19:32] evoking my name to scare them off. If
[02:19:35] she was his tormentor, he wouldn't have
[02:19:37] wanted her to come in and make it worse.
[02:19:39] She was more likely his ace.
[02:19:41] I don't think she tormented him. I mean,
[02:19:44] again, the only thing we have to go on
[02:19:47] that says that is Andrew's super secret
[02:19:49] conversations with a dead guy.
[02:19:52] Everything he said publicly, everything
[02:19:53] he said by text seems to support
[02:19:56] precisely Candace's version of events.
[02:19:59] I'm finally watching live. I'm still
[02:20:01] catching up from four months ago. I
[02:20:02] heard a rumor and I don't know how to
[02:20:04] verify. Charlie filed for divorce. I
[02:20:06] don't I have covered it already and I
[02:20:08] I've got no evidence of that. Who was
[02:20:10] the media guy that asked for
[02:20:11] transparency when it comes to pick
[02:20:12] videos to the gallery? I don't know. I
[02:20:16] don't know his name. Uh crazy. How many
[02:20:19] cameras don't work in this country?
[02:20:20] officer's body camera dies an hour 44
[02:20:22] into his shift when those batteries can
[02:20:24] last up to 18 hours depending on brand.
[02:20:26] Can't help but think perjury. Christ is
[02:20:29] king indeed.
[02:20:31] Yeah, I I think I'm not buying it. I'm
[02:20:34] not buying the dead battery stuff. Judge
[02:20:36] Graph is amazing.
[02:20:38] I im
[02:20:40] did an okay job today. I mean, you know,
[02:20:42] we'll see how he continues. This week
[02:20:44] we're seeing the fruits of Andrew
[02:20:46] Wilson's teachings on AK's exac account.
[02:20:48] I wonder if Andrew Wilson has access to
[02:20:50] Andrew's account because some of the
[02:20:51] verbiage and tone doesn't sound like
[02:20:52] Andrew more aggressive like Andrew
[02:20:54] Wilson talks. I don't know hardly
[02:20:56] anything about Andrew Wilson. I mean,
[02:20:58] almost nothing. I don't It's not a guy I
[02:21:01] followed. I've seen him do a couple
[02:21:03] fouled mouth
[02:21:05] clips with people. That's all I've seen.
[02:21:07] I know nothing about him. Uh 7:37
[02:21:10] Eastern, 30,000 viewers. Hit the like.
[02:21:13] Oh yeah, hit the like. I'm sure we're
[02:21:16] doing fine. YouTube screwed up the back
[02:21:18] end. It's got four clip four clicks now
[02:21:20] to see the likes. It used to be one.
[02:21:23] Uh, does the jury attend or hear what is
[02:21:26] said or presented in the preliminary
[02:21:28] hearing? Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no.
[02:21:32] Is it true the prosecution selects TR's
[02:21:34] attorneys? If so, how and why is that
[02:21:36] fair to TR? Or did I misunderstand? You
[02:21:38] misunderstood. Um, you misunderstood.
[02:21:42] The um the defense attorneys are
[02:21:45] selected.
[02:21:46] I by the state. They're paid for by the
[02:21:48] state. I mean, that's the the great
[02:21:50] problem with being a criminal defendant
[02:21:52] is everything is stacked against you.
[02:21:55] The judge, the prosecution, oftentimes
[02:21:57] your lawyers, all paid by the same
[02:21:58] people. All the investigators, all the
[02:22:01] police officers, same people, and it's
[02:22:04] just you hoping that you get a fair
[02:22:06] shake. Bron, thank you so much for all
[02:22:08] the hard work you do to keep us up to
[02:22:09] date on everything. Thank you. Very
[02:22:11] kind, delightful. If I was disgusted
[02:22:14] seeing Junior walk in with EK, I know CO
[02:22:17] is beside herself. Charlie considered
[02:22:19] him a brother, and his silence says it
[02:22:21] all. I'm glad we finally got a glimpse
[02:22:22] into CK's parents. I sense disgust.
[02:22:26] Um, I will say Mr. Kirk certainly did
[02:22:31] not appear amused with Stacy's girls or
[02:22:35] Stacy's hand reaching out to touch him.
[02:22:38] He seemed to move quickly past her.
[02:22:41] I watched Trigger Valhalla Court live
[02:22:42] stream from beginning to end and hopped
[02:22:44] over here. I'm committed. Thank you for
[02:22:45] bringing the truth. Crisis King. Indeed,
[02:22:47] I'm doing my best out here, Mallaloy.
[02:22:48] You sound educated. You know more about
[02:22:50] it than most people. Did you really just
[02:22:52] say no one has asked Aubrey for her list
[02:22:54] to send letters of evidence
[02:22:55] preservation? TPS USA going to sue the
[02:22:57] representation on their ENO after this?
[02:23:00] Feels negligent at best, criminal at
[02:23:02] worst. IMO, I did say that. I confirmed
[02:23:04] that with her today in writing, so no
[02:23:07] one can say it didn't happen. [laughter]
[02:23:09] a crystal ball. Why was defense saying
[02:23:13] shot? No. Before picks of roof and
[02:23:15] ground below, they could have set those
[02:23:17] things up prior to 10th. I felt she
[02:23:20] should have objected more. Uh, keep in
[02:23:22] mind nothing she says at the preliminary
[02:23:24] hearing is going to bind them in any way
[02:23:25] for trial. So, it's irrelevant. So,
[02:23:27] what's the takeaway from all this
[02:23:28] information today, kiddos? Jesus loves
[02:23:30] you, but your government is occupied and
[02:23:31] actively against you. Not a bad take.
[02:23:34] Someone should grandma request the UVU
[02:23:36] officer's body cam device audit trail
[02:23:38] for that day per Axom's documentation. A
[02:23:41] seven column CSV gets created with
[02:23:43] battery percentage as one of the
[02:23:44] columns. Oh,
[02:23:48] not a bad idea. Why don't you do it
[02:23:50] Amir?
[02:23:53] I mean what you should be that someone.
[02:23:58] Let me know how it works out. I want the
[02:24:00] footage of Spider-Man before he ran off
[02:24:01] the roof. Um,
[02:24:04] yeah. Well, don't we all? [laughter]
[02:24:06] Don't we all? I didn't take the defense
[02:24:08] as stating they found another bullet
[02:24:10] casing. I took it as her asking if he
[02:24:12] heard of any other casing found. What's
[02:24:14] your take?
[02:24:16] Yeah. I mean,
[02:24:19] what she says is not evident, so I don't
[02:24:20] know. Hol flags footage shows roof
[02:24:23] suspect running immediately after shot.
[02:24:25] No time to disassemble rifle. No bulges
[02:24:27] from rifle concealment apparent. Um, so
[02:24:30] as to the disassembling after the shot,
[02:24:32] I I want to correct this because it's it
[02:24:34] keeps coming up and it comes up by
[02:24:37] people who mean well, but I I think it's
[02:24:39] inaccurate. So, initially
[02:24:42] the governor of Utah held a press
[02:24:43] conference where he said that after the
[02:24:46] shot, the suspect disassembled the
[02:24:49] rifle. I don't know rifle. I don't know
[02:24:50] why he said that,
[02:24:53] but he did. Their story has changed.
[02:24:56] They no longer say he disassembled the
[02:24:58] rifle.
[02:24:59] on the roof.
[02:25:01] So that that has changed. Uh is it
[02:25:04] gravel or riverstone on the Losi
[02:25:06] building? Huge difference in my mind. I
[02:25:08] I don't know. Maybe we'll find out. Good
[02:25:11] evening, B. What are your thoughts about
[02:25:12] the state presenting pure hearsay
[02:25:13] evidence after 6 plus hours? Uh it was
[02:25:16] shocking, frankly, that not one person
[02:25:18] had personal knowledge. Baron, did
[02:25:21] broadcasting help your ortor skills or
[02:25:23] did ling lawyering help your
[02:25:24] broadcasting skills? I think those are
[02:25:26] similar skill sets but also have their
[02:25:28] nuances which strengthens which if at
[02:25:31] all. Thank you. Love you my be. Christ
[02:25:34] is king indeed. Um good question.
[02:25:38] So when I was in college I took a lot of
[02:25:40] communications classes. I always figured
[02:25:42] I wanted to speak in public. Um I wasn't
[02:25:45] good at it. My early like my comm 100
[02:25:47] class the very first communications
[02:25:48] class I took was a disaster. I was so
[02:25:51] nervous I could barely speak in front of
[02:25:52] a class of like 10 people. Um
[02:25:57] when so I took several public
[02:25:59] communications classes in college just
[02:26:02] as electives just to get better at it.
[02:26:06] Uh when I was in law school I took every
[02:26:08] trial advoc advocacy class I could get.
[02:26:11] I did the summer twoe program or oneweek
[02:26:14] program whatever it was where you go and
[02:26:15] you study and they teach you trial
[02:26:17] advocacy skills. I thought I wanted to
[02:26:18] try cases.
[02:26:21] And in trying a bunch of cases, you you
[02:26:23] naturally get better. Um, I mean, you
[02:26:26] get better with anything you do,
[02:26:28] provided you're practicing and trying to
[02:26:30] get better. Broadcasting, uh, I think is
[02:26:34] its own animal. Uh, it's totally
[02:26:36] different skill set. And
[02:26:40] I feel like when I first started
[02:26:42] broadcasting, I was an absolute nervous
[02:26:44] wreck. I said almost nothing. thing. I
[02:26:45] said as little as I could, quickly,
[02:26:47] meekly. Had no real voice for
[02:26:50] broadcasting. But over time, you find
[02:26:52] your your footing, you know? You you
[02:26:55] just like riding a bike or roller
[02:26:57] skating. You get better over time and
[02:26:58] you you start trying new things and you
[02:27:00] figure out what works and doesn't work.
[02:27:02] So, I don't know. I don't think I don't
[02:27:04] not saying I'm great at either, but
[02:27:05] thank you for the question. That's the
[02:27:07] best I can give you. Uh, evening Baron,
[02:27:10] say hi to my hubby Joe Daddy. He's
[02:27:13] watching you live with me on
[02:27:16] baby girl. Uh oh, and baby girl, not on
[02:27:20] baby girl. Uh we call her BBG and text.
[02:27:23] He's off the road for a few days on the
[02:27:25] road. Over the road trucker fan. We love
[02:27:27] you. Keep it up. Crisis king indeed. Uh
[02:27:29] hey Joe Daddy, you guys sound like you
[02:27:33] have a lot of nicknames in that family.
[02:27:35] It died. Well, the unknown man with a
[02:27:37] gun and a badge. That's crazy. Based on
[02:27:39] the evidence so far, I think it might
[02:27:40] have been me. Christ is king indeed. I
[02:27:42] hope it wasn't you. I hope the judge saw
[02:27:45] that and thought
[02:27:47] [groaning]
[02:27:48] that smells a little seti upy to me if
[02:27:51] I'm being honest. Scampering and
[02:27:53] waddling. Oh my. Yeah. Yeah. But he did.
[02:27:56] Uh my be I'm calling it number one from
[02:27:58] Leeds England. You may have it sir.
[02:28:00] Congrats on the win last night. We
[02:28:02] watched it. Joining late EK doppelganger
[02:28:04] came from separate
[02:28:06] came separate to trick other blonde and
[02:28:09] also judge said that victims can exit
[02:28:11] and return after first or second break
[02:28:14] victims but I don't know about all the
[02:28:16] crew with the victim. That's that's I
[02:28:19] think the judge got to work on that.
[02:28:21] I work sell guns and I put them
[02:28:23] together. Never have I had to use a
[02:28:25] screwdriver to put one together or take
[02:28:26] apart.
[02:28:28] They say that's how you take this mouser
[02:28:30] apart. I don't know. I don't know much
[02:28:32] about it. Amazing how all the cameras
[02:28:36] managed to fail at critical moments.
[02:28:37] What a stroke of luck. Ain't that crazy?
[02:28:40] The Air Queen camera didn't fail. My
[02:28:41] battery died. Isn't that an admission of
[02:28:43] incompetence? Well, it's
[02:28:49] something. Edge. He signed up for
[02:28:51] it's something. Edge. He signed up for
[02:28:51] this event. He'd only been on duty a
[02:28:52] couple hours and his body cam poops. He
[02:28:54] and AK must have the same battery. Oh,
[02:28:56] that's right. Andrew's phone died as
[02:28:58] well. We forgot that. They should
[02:29:00] consult with Frank. His battery is a
[02:29:02] beast. Conclusion, liar. Oh, that's
[02:29:04] right. Oh my gosh, Edge, what a great
[02:29:05] comment. So, Andrew's phone craps out
[02:29:08] the day after the event, strangely. His
[02:29:11] phone breaks.
[02:29:13] And Frank Turk has a battery that could
[02:29:17] power a Tesla on a cross-country drive.
[02:29:19] He was on FaceTime for seven hours.
[02:29:21] Incredible.
[02:29:23] Mr. Baggley, did you witness the two
[02:29:24] utes enter the sack of Suds? [laughter]
[02:29:28] That's a great movie. That's a great
[02:29:29] movie. Uh, your honor, I object to fake
[02:29:32] and gay. Yeah, un unfortunately that's
[02:29:33] not one of the objections you're given.
[02:29:35] You're not allowed that one. Uh, that
[02:29:37] prone position print looks like a sea
[02:29:38] turtle.
[02:29:42] Yeah. Okay, I'll allow it. Uh, found
[02:29:45] some FBI info emails. Color of the day
[02:29:47] was yellow for 910. Several field
[02:29:49] officers for all. Now going to go back
[02:29:51] and look for anything yellow in crowd
[02:29:52] vids. Okay, let me know what you find.
[02:29:55] It was officer Dofy reporting for duty.
[02:30:01] I'll allow it. Baron, wouldn't we expect
[02:30:04] there would be much more gravel
[02:30:05] disturbed near the sniper nest with how
[02:30:08] quickly the suspect got up and ran away
[02:30:10] after the shot? Love your insights. Um,
[02:30:13] I don't know. I'm not familiar with
[02:30:15] sniper nest gravel disturbances.
[02:30:18] I haven't I didn't take that class. Uh,
[02:30:20] it's clear it's not. Well, I that kind
[02:30:22] of seems like it with the civilian
[02:30:25] clothed, badged, gun wielding man from
[02:30:28] unknown law enforcement agency and
[02:30:32] battery at critical fun junction dying.
[02:30:36] Does the defense have to turn over
[02:30:38] evidence to prosecution? Of course. Of
[02:30:41] course.
[02:30:42] Uh, safe to assume Andrew had full eyes
[02:30:47] uh, full-on Erica eyes during this epic
[02:30:49] crash out on X today. Still may we know
[02:30:52] how badly he wants to be part of this or
[02:30:54] any high IQ outfit. Aka, you're getting
[02:30:56] killed. Smalls.
[02:31:01] Not Andrew's best day. I I I just don't
[02:31:05] see how he stays with TPUSA.
[02:31:08] That prone position looks more like
[02:31:09] someone was making angels in the gravel.
[02:31:11] Such BS. At what point will they just
[02:31:13] stop? Christ is king and Jesus loves
[02:31:16] you.
[02:31:18] I I don't know. Stop.
[02:31:22] Uh, so there's a gunman on the Losi and
[02:31:23] you're up there with someone with a gun,
[02:31:24] but you don't know who he is. Yeah,
[02:31:27] that's precisely what the question was.
[02:31:29] So, body cam went dead, but he couldn't
[02:31:30] take pics with his phone at the scene on
[02:31:31] the roof. What about body cam pick of
[02:31:33] empty holster? Keystone cops. Well,
[02:31:35] you're giving him a lot of credit to say
[02:31:36] Keystone Cops. Guy behind EK at court.
[02:31:38] What nephew is Blake Win? I I don't know
[02:31:41] that. I don't think that's accurate.
[02:31:44] Let's speculate. TR told his defense
[02:31:45] team he did not shoot CK. Shouldn't the
[02:31:49] defense then demand to review the
[02:31:50] autopsy report report to rule out death
[02:31:53] by gunshot?
[02:31:58] I mean, I'm sure they've requested the
[02:32:00] autopsy report.
[02:32:02] I can't imagine you go to trial without
[02:32:04] that having seen it. Do you think it's
[02:32:06] possible that they staged CK death
[02:32:08] because they were going to kill him and
[02:32:10] EK couldn't pull off grieving widow, so
[02:32:12] the plan fell apart and CK wasn't
[02:32:14] worried about TR? No evidence. They'd
[02:32:15] make sure to get him off.
[02:32:18] I I mean, is it possible? Anything's
[02:32:21] possible. I mean, space aliens may have
[02:32:23] come and and and planted a probe in them
[02:32:25] in the middle of the night. I I don't
[02:32:27] know. I It doesn't It doesn't sound
[02:32:29] likely. Fact, we're supposed to be the
[02:32:31] crazy ones because we refuse to breathe
[02:32:33] this slop is both astounding and
[02:32:35] disgusting. Thanks for all you do,
[02:32:37] Baron. I'm doing my best up here. Doing
[02:32:39] my best up. Uh, but yeah, we're the nuts
[02:32:41] ones. I don't see how anyone can watch
[02:32:43] day one and be like, "Oh, mountains of
[02:32:45] evidence." Weird. First lawsuit I found
[02:32:47] looks like TP representation knew how to
[02:32:49] send legal holds and preserves evidence
[02:32:52] as recently as 2024.
[02:32:54] Ko Hogitus versus TPUSA.
[02:33:00] I mean, I think anybody knows how to
[02:33:01] send a request to hold. Uh, state's
[02:33:04] motto is worse for first. Okay. Girls
[02:33:07] are usually put away before entering the
[02:33:09] courtroom. Only reps from TPSA arrive in
[02:33:12] grieving outfits. Is that her grieving
[02:33:14] outfit? Oh, I hate to see her going to a
[02:33:17] club outfit. Boobs out for court. Dear
[02:33:19] Lord, these people are so out of touch.
[02:33:20] Poor Charlie's parents. I hope they know
[02:33:22] we pray for them. Kristen.
[02:33:25] Yeah, Critter. I think you're right.
[02:33:27] They are very out of touch. Out of
[02:33:30] touch. I'm not sure we want to use the
[02:33:31] phrase out of touch when talking about
[02:33:33] that subject. AK is not a studied PR
[02:33:35] man. Clearly.
[02:33:37] Clearly he's not. He sucks at it because
[02:33:40] PR was his cover. Like Ryder was Blake
[02:33:42] Nef's cover when he infiltrated Stu
[02:33:44] Peters, Tucker, and CK. All operators
[02:33:46] and handlers. True psychopathy is
[02:33:49] evident.
[02:33:52] Yeah, maybe. I'm here mate and I am all
[02:33:56] for it. Wow. Stacy Sheridan crawled out
[02:33:59] from under, didn't she? I mean, it
[02:34:02] honestly looks like she just got back
[02:34:04] from the club the night before and threw
[02:34:06] on a coat.
[02:34:09] Appreciate your knowledge, Mary. God
[02:34:10] bless. God bless you as well. Thank you.
[02:34:12] Uh, why is this Star Chamber show even
[02:34:15] being allowed? It's tanamount to a
[02:34:16] humiliation ritual.
[02:34:19] Uh,
[02:34:21] it's a good question. [laughter] It's a
[02:34:23] good question. We'll see if it gets
[02:34:24] better. I have to say I was very bored
[02:34:26] watching day one. Real court is nothing
[02:34:28] like TV shows.
[02:34:30] I warned you people. It's boring. I
[02:34:32] warned you by tweet. I told Matt from
[02:34:34] Trigger Smart that it's boring. He asked
[02:34:36] me if I wanted to be on. I was like,
[02:34:37] "Ah, they're boring. I'll hit the
[02:34:40] highlights when I do a show." Uh, with
[02:34:42] the overwhelming feeling that TR is a
[02:34:44] psy, is it worthwhile to send
[02:34:47] encouraging letters to him at Utah
[02:34:48] County? He should know the public
[02:34:49] believes he's a psy.
[02:34:52] I guess send him whatever you want. I'm
[02:34:53] certainly not recommending it, you know.
[02:34:55] I'm not telling you what to do, though.
[02:34:58] Hit the like button, please. Oh, yeah.
[02:35:00] Hit the like button, you guys. Are you
[02:35:01] guys doing lousy likes
[02:35:05] wrong with you people?
[02:35:07] Let's see here.
[02:35:11] Oh, we've got good likes. I mean, about
[02:35:14] half of people watching, but we could do
[02:35:16] better. Okay, tighten up. [laughter]
[02:35:19] Hit the likes. Hit the likes.
[02:35:22] Uh, heavy set. I was screaming for her
[02:35:25] to do it. She would have mortified him.
[02:35:26] Yes, Jill, you sound like a trial lawyer
[02:35:29] knowing how to get an advantage over a
[02:35:30] witness because I thinking back would
[02:35:32] have loved to see her do that. You said
[02:35:34] heavy set. Am I heavy set? How heavy set
[02:35:36] are we talking?
[02:35:39] Ah, you would have seen her get the
[02:35:42] total upper hand over a witness in one
[02:35:44] question. Officer bag me looks like the
[02:35:47] kind of dude that has stuff on his
[02:35:49] computer the FBI found to make him a psy
[02:35:52] less credible. Well, not going to go
[02:35:55] that far. He might look like it, but I'm
[02:35:57] not going to accuse him of it. Uh B.
[02:35:58] Body cam only turns on when activated.
[02:36:00] It would not have even been on for the
[02:36:03] hour. It also alerts on the cam that the
[02:36:05] battery is low. What? Wait, did he say
[02:36:08] stranger with gun was his backup? Yes.
[02:36:12] And there are some body cams that can
[02:36:14] that can continually
[02:36:16] record. But yes, he did say a stranger
[02:36:19] with a gun and an unknown badge was his
[02:36:23] backup. He wasn't heavy set. Officer low
[02:36:26] battery Bagley. Useful idiot. Low
[02:36:29] battery Bagley. I like that. [laughter]
[02:36:32] No battery Baggley. Ah, that's that's
[02:36:34] funny. You made me laugh. Uh, so Frank
[02:36:37] Turk's phone battery lasted longer
[02:36:39] lasted longer than Barney F's body cam
[02:36:42] battery. Thanks for all you do, Crisis
[02:36:44] King. Indeed, Frank. We hear it lasts a
[02:36:45] long time. The battery on your phone. Am
[02:36:48] I heavy set? I haven't left in a week.
[02:36:49] Thank you for that. Well, thank you.
[02:36:50] Boyy jet guy. Appreciate or Egyptian jet
[02:36:53] guy. Now, uh, hi Baron. So, when the
[02:36:56] trial does start, if the defense does
[02:36:58] concede a gunshot, you think that would
[02:37:00] mean they're in on it? So afraid that's
[02:37:02] where this is heading, that even Tyler
[02:37:03] knows the outcome. Hate to be that
[02:37:05] cynical.
[02:37:06] Uh, [sighs]
[02:37:11] let's wait and see. I mean, let's see
[02:37:12] how it progresses. I don't want to make
[02:37:14] that call right now. I was unaware
[02:37:16] Deputy Dwey had been cast in the movie
[02:37:17] about the demise of Charlie Kirk. Yeah.
[02:37:21] Would you have any high IQ advice for my
[02:37:23] daughter Josie who just graduated high
[02:37:24] school early at 15? This proud mama may
[02:37:26] be your number one fan from world famous
[02:37:28] Courthouse Tower Tree Greensburg,
[02:37:30] Indiana.
[02:37:33] Uh Christ is King indeed. World famous,
[02:37:35] you say?
[02:37:37] I don't know. I mean, coach her up.
[02:37:39] You're her mom.
[02:37:41] Poor dad. Uh Joanie, I'm guessing you're
[02:37:44] a mom. Uh I really don't have advice. I
[02:37:47] don't know. I didn't have a kid
[02:37:48] graduated at 15. I don't have a
[02:37:49] comparison. Um
[02:37:53] depends on what she wants to do. Like if
[02:37:54] she wants to be a doctor, she got to go
[02:37:55] to college. She wants to be an
[02:37:56] accountant, she has to go to college.
[02:37:58] Engineer has to go to college. But
[02:37:59] there's a lot of jobs that don't require
[02:38:01] it. Maybe take a
[02:38:03] maybe take a a year of just working and
[02:38:06] see how see how she likes it. Don't know
[02:38:08] what you can do at 15. So the unknown
[02:38:11] unidentified offer in civvies could have
[02:38:13] been the suspect as far as the officer
[02:38:14] would know which wasn't much. Yeah.
[02:38:17] Could have been anybody with a badge
[02:38:19] they bought on uh you know at Party
[02:38:21] City. There's no crash out like an
[02:38:24] Andrew Kulvic crash out. No, there's
[02:38:25] not. They're bad. [laughter]
[02:38:27] Baron, your honor, I've never laughed
[02:38:28] this hard from any of your other shows.
[02:38:30] You are comedically summarizing today's
[02:38:32] court session. Well done, sir. I'm doing
[02:38:34] my best up here. I'm just being myself.
[02:38:38] Ozimp Ompic American. [laughter] It was
[02:38:41] Officer Tater tot. Yeah, he was an Ozic
[02:38:43] American. I forgot about that. I did say
[02:38:45] that, did I? Uh, as coach's lawyer, he
[02:38:47] doesn't know yet. I have no other choice
[02:38:50] but to find you, sir, for that use of
[02:38:51] mama and mountain of evidence. Amount to
[02:38:54] be determined. I'll allow it. Just keep
[02:38:57] it under keep it double digits.
[02:38:59] First time in super chat. I watch you
[02:39:01] faithfully right after Candace. This is
[02:39:03] looking like a kangaroo court. The
[02:39:05] American people need to really pay
[02:39:07] attention because this matters on a much
[02:39:09] bigger scale.
[02:39:11] Well, for a first time super chatter,
[02:39:13] you didn't have trouble yelling in the
[02:39:15] courtroom. [laughter]
[02:39:18] I'll allow it. Thank you. Welcome in.
[02:39:20] Welcome in. Uh from that state. And can
[02:39:24] you say 99% sure he's from here? Oh. Oh,
[02:39:27] Australia. He's Australian, mate. How
[02:39:30] you know he's not a a Zealander or
[02:39:32] whatever they call him? Kiwi and Ozimpic
[02:39:35] American [laughter] laughing so much.
[02:39:37] Girls out. Yes. Both very true. Both
[02:39:40] very true. Baron, I'm just joining in.
[02:39:44] Wanted to draw the parallel between
[02:39:46] intelligence assets and major political
[02:39:49] figures. The format for a time was in
[02:39:51] things like the president's daily brief.
[02:39:54] I believe that. I believe that. Uh, Ozek
[02:39:57] American. Yeah. [laughter] I didn't
[02:39:59] realize I was going to hit like that. I
[02:40:00] just said it in the moment. I didn't
[02:40:01] even have that one planned. In his
[02:40:03] testimony, he said the fir he first saw
[02:40:06] the screwdriver, which is why he went
[02:40:08] over there contradicting the video where
[02:40:09] he says he finds the prince first. Well,
[02:40:10] imagine that.
[02:40:12] Imagine that. The guy's contradicting
[02:40:14] himself. I can only imagine how good of
[02:40:16] a lawyer you were. If you're anything
[02:40:18] like you are on this podcast, you must
[02:40:20] have dominated the courtroom. I just
[02:40:22] stick your breakdowns going forward.
[02:40:24] Well, um
[02:40:27] I I didn't have quite as much fun in
[02:40:28] court, but I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.
[02:40:31] Um, but you got to, you know, it's a
[02:40:33] serious decorum.
[02:40:35] Judges aren't up there with propellers
[02:40:36] on their hats, you know. Uh, it might be
[02:40:39] said to send you a super so I can borrow
[02:40:40] the rights to Ozic American on the job
[02:40:42] site tomorrow. Thank you, sir. Yeah, you
[02:40:43] can have it. You can have it. You can
[02:40:45] have it. Charlie was a willing asset who
[02:40:48] changed. You don't surround yourself
[02:40:50] only with the likes of Blake Nef and
[02:40:52] company and lie for our greatest ass
[02:40:54] ally uh for years by mistake.
[02:41:01] Maybe. I don't know. My heart aches for
[02:41:04] Tyler's parents. Yeah, all that
[02:41:05] conversation today about who was there
[02:41:06] for Erica, not one person mentioned who
[02:41:08] was there for Tyler that I could see. I
[02:41:11] don't even know. Might be. Fun fact,
[02:41:13] Agent Poso, aka Jack Pobic, has a comic
[02:41:16] book written about him. It did not
[02:41:18] disappoint. Check your inbox if you want
[02:41:20] a good laugh. Well, thank you. I'll
[02:41:21] check it out. Sounds fun. An officer
[02:41:23] responded to a gunshot, approached the
[02:41:25] location from where he thinks the shot
[02:41:26] was taken. He was followed by a man in
[02:41:28] civilian clothes who had a gun and he
[02:41:30] never thought to ask, "Hey, who the hell
[02:41:31] are you?" Wow. Well, that's his story.
[02:41:35] That's his story. Random man in civies
[02:41:39] with gun at the scene of a shooting.
[02:41:44] Come on up, Buster Brown. I pray that
[02:41:47] TR's lawyers are watching all of your
[02:41:48] shows religiously. That would be the
[02:41:50] smartest decision in the case. Christ is
[02:41:52] king indeed. Um, I don't know what
[02:41:56] they're doing.
[02:41:57] There was a guy in the crowd that had a
[02:41:58] badge on and he pulled it off his shirt
[02:42:00] when he saw the camera pointed at him.
[02:42:02] Yeah, I remember that. Remember that? He
[02:42:04] had a mustache. Did you notice Tucker's
[02:42:07] facial expressions when Andrew talked
[02:42:09] about removing the SD card? Seemed like
[02:42:10] he thought it's sus. God bless the
[02:42:13] commun uh community. Yeah, I saw that. I
[02:42:15] noticed. Go Max Bear as sick as me when
[02:42:17] I go on my ex feed is filled with Andrew
[02:42:19] and Blake lying, sharing propaganda. How
[02:42:21] do they sleep at night, man?
[02:42:25] Um,
[02:42:27] I don't know.
[02:42:30] I don't know. Maybe they believe it.
[02:42:33] Utah, the only state you can get
[02:42:34] probable cause from a Ouija board in a
[02:42:36] vision of the shaman's baby daddy. Yeah,
[02:42:38] it's starting to look that way. I'm
[02:42:40] sorry, but I couldn't take it anymore. I
[02:42:42] wanted to keep going, but the weather
[02:42:43] was so hot and I was overheating badly,
[02:42:45] so my owner ended. My pain turned me
[02:42:49] off. with regards officer Baggley's body
[02:42:52] cam. That might have been what happened.
[02:42:53] Good call. Thank you, Baron, for keeping
[02:42:56] us updated throughout this trial. Your
[02:42:57] knowledge will be unmatched. Well, thank
[02:42:59] you. I don't know about unmatched.
[02:43:00] There's a lot of good people doing good
[02:43:02] work out there, but I appreciate your
[02:43:03] faith. It doesn't American. Yeah. Well,
[02:43:08] it just sort of came out.
[02:43:11] The SD cards were paved over. SD card
[02:43:13] emergency. That's what it's starting to
[02:43:14] sound like. Where are the SD cards? Who
[02:43:19] chose this jurist? Why here? Well, we're
[02:43:22] maybe we're starting to learn.
[02:43:26] Edge haven't finished yesterday's
[02:43:28] episode due to life. Well, beats the
[02:43:30] alternative. Sorry if mentioned the
[02:43:32] false eyelashes aren't unusual if a lady
[02:43:34] doesn't want her fake tears to ruin her
[02:43:36] mascara. Was not mentioned. Thank you,
[02:43:39] Baron. I love the thought that TR's
[02:43:40] defense team is watching. Please God,
[02:43:42] keep Tyler safe. Owens for dictator
[02:43:45] 2028. Christ is king. Indeed, I would
[02:43:48] serve in that administration.
[02:43:51] I'd rather be the dictator, but I I'll
[02:43:53] serve in that administration. Andrew's
[02:43:54] an idiot. Why else would Canis be going
[02:43:56] through all of this? Of course, they
[02:43:57] were friends. Christ is king indeed.
[02:43:59] Well,
[02:44:01] you could have just stopped after that
[02:44:03] first sentence.
[02:44:05] You think maybe Andrew Wilson was hired
[02:44:07] to respond to debates with Candace and
[02:44:08] AK? The crash out doesn't sound like
[02:44:11] him. Yeah. I don't I don't know. Again,
[02:44:14] I don't put a lot of thought into that
[02:44:15] guy. I don't really know who he is. I
[02:44:17] did a small bit of prep because we did a
[02:44:19] segment on him the other day in terms of
[02:44:20] who all TPS USA is hiring. Uh but he's
[02:44:23] not someone I follow closely, so I don't
[02:44:25] know his language well enough to know if
[02:44:28] that sounds like him or not. Uh did you
[02:44:31] see anything that hurt Tyler today? Uh
[02:44:35] go back over my notes. It's a good
[02:44:37] question.
[02:44:44] No.
[02:44:45] No. Because even all the video footage
[02:44:47] they claimed they got from TPUSA, none
[02:44:50] of it showed Tyler Robinson. Like they
[02:44:53] had a camera on the questioner. That
[02:44:54] didn't show Tyler Robinson. They had a
[02:44:56] camera on Charlie. That didn't show
[02:44:58] Tyler Robinson. They had a camera from
[02:45:00] the back, but you we saw the vision they
[02:45:02] had that that did not cover Tyler
[02:45:04] Robinson.
[02:45:06] I don't I didn't I didn't see a thing. I
[02:45:10] mean, maybe the gray car showing up at
[02:45:12] 1:30 at night
[02:45:15] or 1:00, whatever time that was. Maybe
[02:45:18] you could say that. I mean, that car,
[02:45:23] but you know, can you put him in the
[02:45:25] car? I mean, we're talking reasonable
[02:45:26] doubt here. Can you put him in that car?
[02:45:28] I didn't see anything that put him in
[02:45:29] the car. I don't know. Andy doesn't know
[02:45:32] how close they actually were. Uh,
[02:45:35] doesn't sound like it. Should I go stand
[02:45:37] outside the courthouse with a sign that
[02:45:38] says TP USA equals toilet paper USA? I
[02:45:41] would love ideas for signs. Please share
[02:45:42] your idea for a sign. Helga Shaba Laba
[02:45:45] Dingdong. I don't recommend it. Just
[02:45:47] just uh let let it take place. I don't
[02:45:50] recommend interfering in any way.
[02:45:53] If you want to go observe, go observe,
[02:45:55] but don't don't I wouldn't cause a
[02:45:56] scene. If only Officer Baggley had the
[02:45:59] same battery life in his body cam that
[02:46:01] Frank Turk has on his phone. Oh, he'd
[02:46:02] still be recording 10 months later. CK
[02:46:05] was a lying manipulator like them. Or he
[02:46:07] wasn't. Oh, yeah. Either or. One or the
[02:46:10] other.
[02:46:12] Three cameras, one road mic, four files.
[02:46:19] I didn't see one that was labeled a road
[02:46:21] mic. I saw all video files.
[02:46:28] And pull it back up.
[02:46:38] I don't see any of those. That would be
[02:46:40] a video file.
[02:46:43] These videos labeled. No, he said all
[02:46:45] four were videos. He didn't say any of
[02:46:46] them were audio.
[02:46:48] So, I I I'm going to I'm going to
[02:46:50] dispute that.
[02:46:52] Uh Terrell gave SBI vid links, not
[02:46:54] original SD card. That's his testimony.
[02:46:56] That's his testimony.
[02:46:59] Shout out from mom Kaylin and Darren. Hi
[02:47:02] IQ kids. Crisis king indeed. I'm sure
[02:47:04] they are if they're your kids. I would
[02:47:06] expect nothing less. Ken is going max on
[02:47:09] Andrew and we are all here for it.
[02:47:11] Crisis king indeed. Left my family
[02:47:12] dinner to watch this. Oh,
[02:47:16] sorry guys.
[02:47:18] Please accept my deepest and sincerest
[02:47:20] apologies. An oepic American be Coleman
[02:47:22] 2026. Well, yeah, they're out there.
[02:47:26] Charlie insisted he would not end his
[02:47:28] friendship shortly before his death is
[02:47:30] aka a [ __ ]
[02:47:32] uh or a liar. One or the other. Not sure
[02:47:35] if mentioned but body cam do give three
[02:47:37] types of warning if battery is about to
[02:47:39] be empty. You don't see it in the video
[02:47:41] but it is on the body cam log.
[02:47:44] Okay, we need to get the log. I hope
[02:47:46] hope the defense has the log. I'm pretty
[02:47:48] sure there's a clip of Blake laughing
[02:47:49] like a Jack Heiny where Andrew's
[02:47:52] explaining Charlie doesn't lie. Love the
[02:47:53] show. Yeah, I played it on here. We
[02:47:54] talked about it. I I think I called it a
[02:47:56] maniacal cackle.
[02:47:58] If they weren't friends, why did Trump
[02:47:59] ask CK to call CO about Mcronone's
[02:48:01] heavy? That's a great question.
[02:48:04] That's a really good question. Nicely
[02:48:06] put together, Mary Kendrick.
[02:48:09] Great addition to the program. Uh, had
[02:48:12] SD card been turned over, deleted files
[02:48:15] could be recovered. Many investigators
[02:48:18] don't know there are programs for that.
[02:48:20] helped get a conviction for the voyerism
[02:48:22] case.
[02:48:23] RT my kids. RT my kids. Uh, hand over
[02:48:27] the card, Terrell. Christ is king
[02:48:29] indeed. Terl
[02:48:32] card. Donde.
[02:48:36] Okay, your majesty. I'm sorry I'm a
[02:48:38] little behind, but the heavy set crash
[02:48:40] out has me in tears. Well, sorry. Should
[02:48:42] have said should have asked am I heavy
[02:48:44] set? I cannot breathe. I wish you were
[02:48:45] doing the closing. Well, I just want to
[02:48:47] question that officer.
[02:48:49] B have me rolling after Ompic American.
[02:48:52] In my opinion, defense shouldn't only
[02:48:53] object on constitutional basis. The
[02:48:55] mountain of evidence is a molehill. Now
[02:48:59] they'll have a chance to make that case
[02:49:00] to the I think Candace needs to remind
[02:49:03] everyone that she has a dead man switch.
[02:49:06] She said in the beginning of the
[02:49:07] investigation, but she has a lot more
[02:49:08] evidence now and should remind everyone.
[02:49:13] Andrew, give me the creeps. Wow, that
[02:49:15] goes without saying. Is that Blake win
[02:49:17] in the court by his sister? I don't I
[02:49:19] don't know. I don't know. I don't think
[02:49:20] so. I wish Charlie was still there to
[02:49:22] tell funny story of him and Candace in
[02:49:24] Jerusalem. I'm praying. Pretty sure
[02:49:26] that's when France said she saw Charlie
[02:49:29] Kirk for the first time. It is. Yeah.
[02:49:31] Same trip. Uh what do you think about
[02:49:34] officer Chris Baggley not having his
[02:49:36] body cam fully charged, lost battery,
[02:49:38] and the gun holster he didn't pick up?
[02:49:40] Thanks. Um I've commented on both. Well,
[02:49:44] I've commented at length on the body cam
[02:49:46] battery. Um, we we don't know that it
[02:49:50] was actually a dead battery.
[02:49:52] You're giving him a lot of faith. This
[02:49:54] is a guy who stormed the Losi Center
[02:49:56] with an unknown man in civilian clothing
[02:49:58] and a gun
[02:50:01] and a badge he didn't verify and doesn't
[02:50:04] remember what agency it was from. So,
[02:50:05] let's let's not take him at his word.
[02:50:08] Okay. I think it's safe to say we can
[02:50:10] disregard some of the things he said.
[02:50:13] Uh, as to the gun holster.
[02:50:17] Yeah, I mean I think he should have at
[02:50:18] least alerted someone to it, you know.
[02:50:20] SD card is also a flash drive. USB and
[02:50:23] SD are both flash.
[02:50:25] Correct. Well,
[02:50:28] I think technically correct. However,
[02:50:32] in his statement, he doesn't mention
[02:50:34] handing over the SD card. He says he
[02:50:35] provided it by Google Drive. That's all
[02:50:37] he says.
[02:50:39] Uh, I think AK was originally sent to
[02:50:41] handle CK, but when they realized how
[02:50:43] close his friendship was with Candace,
[02:50:45] they had to send EF to handle him and
[02:50:47] his personal life. Charlie required
[02:50:49] multiple handlers.
[02:50:52] That's, you know, not not out of the
[02:50:54] realm of possibility. Thank you, Baron,
[02:50:56] explaining today legal proceedings.
[02:50:58] Several terms and details I know nothing
[02:51:00] about. Thank you for sharing your wisdom
[02:51:02] and continuing your search for truth.
[02:51:04] Christ is king indeed. Thank you. I'm
[02:51:06] doing my best up here. Merch idea. And
[02:51:08] never forget Caesar Rodney
[02:51:10] 72 1776.
[02:51:14] Yeah, Caesar Rodney had quite the ride.
[02:51:16] Um,
[02:51:19] yeah, it would be nice to draw attention
[02:51:20] to the man from Delaware. Uh, Charlie
[02:51:23] told AK we don't lie when speaking on CK
[02:51:25] Pod with Tucker. Yeah, that's true. Did
[02:51:28] AK forget he shared his memory of
[02:51:29] Charlie? When AK wanted to lie to
[02:51:30] someone and solve a problem, Charlie
[02:51:32] reminded him we don't lie. Well,
[02:51:34] Charlie's not here anymore and Andrew
[02:51:35] seems to be full of it. Uh, why have all
[02:51:38] convos come in the last three months?
[02:51:40] Christ is king.
[02:51:45] I don't know that I know what that
[02:51:46] means. I thought Charlie Kirk told
[02:51:49] Andrew we don't lie. Yeah. Well,
[02:51:52] if no additional evidence comes out in
[02:51:53] these proceedings, they're all cooked.
[02:51:55] Saw nothing today and don't expect after
[02:51:57] today. I think they're relying on the
[02:51:59] text messages. I think they're going to
[02:52:01] try to fry him on the text messages.
[02:52:04] That's That might get you to trial, but
[02:52:07] that's not going to get you convicted. I
[02:52:08] got bad news. They better have something
[02:52:09] better than that. Kai tried to smear
[02:52:12] Charlie Kirk back in 2018 or so.
[02:52:17] Does anyone remember the home video she
[02:52:18] leaked out making Charlie look bad? He
[02:52:20] wouldn't let her take the car to get
[02:52:22] grocery store and then all of a sudden
[02:52:23] it went away. Christ is king indeed. I
[02:52:25] don't
[02:52:28] uh clip that. Uh Daisy, do do you
[02:52:30] remember that? I don't remember that. Uh
[02:52:32] he said night before I'm thinking about
[02:52:34] getting Candace back. No other choice
[02:52:37] but to leave the progress ally cause.
[02:52:39] They're walking all over his legacy.
[02:52:42] Candace trying to keep his legacy alive.
[02:52:43] He's a proud of She's He is proud of his
[02:52:46] friend and so blleh at EK aka Blake.
[02:52:50] Yeah.
[02:52:52] All that's correct. They just keep
[02:52:54] digging themselves a deeper hole. It's a
[02:52:55] bad habit they have. Flux Safety had a
[02:52:58] huge footprint in Ogden last September.
[02:53:01] Some officers FBI searched vehicles.
[02:53:03] None of them were a sports muscle car at
[02:53:04] all. Check email. Thanks for your work.
[02:53:14] Okay,
[02:53:17] hold on.
[02:53:20] Lock safety huge footprint in Ogden.
[02:53:22] Some officer. Okay, thank you. Uh, with
[02:53:25] the entire media deep state apparatus
[02:53:27] against Candace at the time, if they
[02:53:28] were not friends, why not denounce her
[02:53:31] then?
[02:53:34] Yeah. I mean, the whole thing is
[02:53:36] ludicrous. Can we get some merch? I have
[02:53:38] questions. Love you. Might be. I hope to
[02:53:41] be lucky enough to have a friend like
[02:53:43] Candace and attorney like you should I
[02:53:44] ever need one. Christ is king indeed.
[02:53:46] Keep going, Max. Um, don't get yourself
[02:53:49] in a position where you need a lawyer.
[02:53:50] [laughter] How about that? Let's just
[02:53:52] settle on that. Thank you. Very kind.
[02:53:54] Very kind. Uh, do you think CK's team
[02:53:56] kept him from X so Charlie wouldn't see
[02:53:58] Erica's past? No, because I mean, you
[02:54:01] can search X without a password. You
[02:54:02] just can't say anything.
[02:54:06] TPUSA has sounded been more like
[02:54:07] Scientology the further we go.
[02:54:09] Scientologist handbook states ruin them
[02:54:11] utterly. No matter how Andrew is showing
[02:54:13] this, as well as calling TPSA the org.
[02:54:17] I'm I'm very unfamiliar with
[02:54:18] Scientology. I'll admit I know almost
[02:54:20] nothing about it. I know there was a guy
[02:54:22] named Elron Hubard. He wrote a book and
[02:54:24] I know that a lot of people follow some
[02:54:25] methodology he created. I know nothing
[02:54:27] about it. Thank you. I didn't think AK
[02:54:30] realizes what he's doing to Charlie's
[02:54:31] legacy. If he does, he's evil. Oh, I
[02:54:33] think he does. I think he's he's
[02:54:36] desperately thrashing around and willing
[02:54:37] to take Charlie down to save himself.
[02:54:40] Love you. Be best show ever. Justice for
[02:54:42] Charlie. Well, we're doing our best,
[02:54:43] too. Thank you, Rene. My father passed
[02:54:45] away yesterday. Oh my gosh. 95 and
[02:54:47] strong until the end. I'm only sad
[02:54:48] because he isn't physically present. A
[02:54:49] Christian man. Daily Bible. can imagine
[02:54:51] the glory he's experiencing. Christ is
[02:54:53] king indeed. Oh my goodness. What a
[02:54:56] beautiful story. You almost can't be
[02:54:58] sad. Someone dies at 95. I mean, you
[02:55:00] are, but you can't be, right?
[02:55:03] That's a long life. Um, my condolences
[02:55:07] to you genuinely. Why is nobody looking
[02:55:09] at we are not going to Mars X theory?
[02:55:12] That explains every single thing,
[02:55:13] including a laser to the back of
[02:55:15] Charlie's head. I find his theory
[02:55:16] evidence very interesting. Um, I think
[02:55:20] it's his presentation. I watched the
[02:55:22] video. Uh, but I think his presentation
[02:55:23] was not ideal.
[02:55:26] It makes it hard to to disseminate.
[02:55:29] Sn telling CO, "Luckily, we don't need
[02:55:31] an influencer campaign. We have medical
[02:55:33] examiner is very sus to me." Maybe the
[02:55:37] reason they met with him after CO saw
[02:55:39] the back footage. Terrifying.
[02:55:43] Uh,
[02:55:48] I don't know that they met. I I don't
[02:55:49] know when they met with the examiner,
[02:55:51] but I will say this. I think, and I'll
[02:55:54] I'll look this up and I'll I'll have
[02:55:55] these facts at some point. I think
[02:55:57] there's a law in Utah about when the
[02:55:59] medical examination has to be done and
[02:56:02] complete and signed. And I think they
[02:56:04] wanted to see about how widely
[02:56:07] disseminated the back footage was before
[02:56:09] finishing it. That's my gut.
[02:56:12] My guess is it's like 10 or 12 days and
[02:56:14] they were running up against a deadline,
[02:56:15] but I I got to check that out. Andrew
[02:56:18] Wilson couldn't commit his daily
[02:56:20] question for you more than three days. I
[02:56:22] don't know what you're talking about.
[02:56:23] Have no idea what you're talking about.
[02:56:25] Uh, ignore all the canist opinions and
[02:56:27] relationship with Charlie. Look only at
[02:56:28] the objective facts presented uh Baron
[02:56:31] and others and TPSA along with the feds
[02:56:33] still smell rotten.
[02:56:37] Uh
[02:56:39] yes. [laughter]
[02:56:41] Yes. Uh we all remember AK saying,
[02:56:43] "Charlie told me we don't ever lie. Uh I
[02:56:45] was married to a narcissist. It's like
[02:56:46] reliving that nightmare."
[02:56:49] You calling Andrew a narcissist.
[02:56:52] Great closing argument against Andrew
[02:56:54] Kovette, Cryis King, Gax's Baron. Well,
[02:56:57] I just had to get few things off my
[02:56:59] chest. Uh to clarify, all evidence seems
[02:57:02] to have come recently.
[02:57:06] uh evidence
[02:57:09] in the case.
[02:57:11] I don't know what you mean. Uh Charlie
[02:57:13] wasn't afraid of Candace, but I'm sure
[02:57:15] he was concerned with the rabbid
[02:57:16] individuals who want everyone to
[02:57:17] denounce her at every turn. Kovvet is a
[02:57:20] liar. Well,
[02:57:23] we agree on that. Uh he admitted it. He
[02:57:26] admitted his instinct was to lie. I I'm
[02:57:28] not speaking out of turn here. Uh, body
[02:57:30] cam footage dying conveniently when he's
[02:57:32] on the roof is strikingly similar in
[02:57:34] Karen Reed trial when they butt dialed
[02:57:36] each other repeatedly.
[02:57:39] AKBN and EK are evil pathological liars.
[02:57:42] Go Max B. Christ is king indeed. Well,
[02:57:45] he's certainly acting like it. He's
[02:57:46] calling Charlie Kirk one. I'm so
[02:57:48] thankful I never watched the footage of
[02:57:50] the Big Bang. I fell to my knees when I
[02:57:52] came in from walking the dog when the
[02:57:53] television said he'd been shot. Thank
[02:57:55] you for all you do. Love you and Christ
[02:57:57] is King. Um,
[02:58:01] yeah. If you don't have to watch it and
[02:58:02] you don't have a reason to, it's it's
[02:58:04] gruesome. It's not worth watching. Uh,
[02:58:07] Ivan, Andrew, take a good look in the
[02:58:08] mirror. Are you proud of what you see?
[02:58:10] Hell is waiting. Oh my gosh. Christ is
[02:58:13] king indeed. Ivan is Ivan is is blunt.
[02:58:17] Ivan is blunt. Uh, haven't been able to
[02:58:19] watch live. Miss everyone moving in to
[02:58:22] help with first grandson born with ultra
[02:58:24] rare condition. Rorb on 70 cases
[02:58:28] worldwide. Pray for him. Christ is king
[02:58:29] indeed. I will do that. Ain't noticing.
[02:58:34] We'll do that. I don't know what RB is.
[02:58:42] Uh,
[02:58:44] ultra rare neurodedevelopmental disease
[02:58:47] caused by mutations in the RARB gene.
[02:58:52] Um, I'm sorry to hear that. Sorry to
[02:58:55] hear that. Uh, Baron, you just went Max.
[02:58:59] Well, I just went just myself. Just
[02:59:02] being myself. Uh, feel that AK should
[02:59:04] take my screen name. Andrew, I will give
[02:59:06] it to you if you truthfully answer a
[02:59:07] question about a question of our humble
[02:59:09] host choosing. He'd just lie.
[02:59:11] Snake bite. He I I I honestly feel like
[02:59:14] he'd just lie. I like he's just I think
[02:59:19] a deeply dishonest person. I I I have no
[02:59:21] other explanation for how he's acting
[02:59:22] right now. Oh, Zenic American. Sorry I'm
[02:59:24] late. It's okay. It's okay. We had our
[02:59:26] we had our moment. I skipped my ultra
[02:59:29] classes to be here. [laughter]
[02:59:31] Well, go get caught up.
[02:59:34] When Charlie was anything but a liar,
[02:59:36] someone needs to remind Andrew that he
[02:59:38] is the villain. And Charlie texted him,
[02:59:40] "We don't lie." Why so triggered,
[02:59:42] Andrew? Shawn Ryan episode broke him.
[02:59:45] Praying for you be. I think you're
[02:59:46] right. I think there's something to
[02:59:48] that. The Shawn Ryan episode was
[02:59:49] devastating to their cause and they're
[02:59:51] having trouble recovering.
[02:59:53] It humanized Candace first. It gave her
[02:59:55] credibility being on a top five podcast,
[02:59:58] um, not her own. and it um
[03:00:03] they just they just can't contend with
[03:00:05] what she says. So, they just lash out
[03:00:07] and the only thing they can do is is act
[03:00:09] like they Yeah. That that we don't lie
[03:00:11] business is telling because if he's
[03:00:13] telling Andrew privately we don't lie,
[03:00:15] that means we don't lie. That means we
[03:00:17] don't lie to Candace either and on text
[03:00:19] behind her back.
[03:00:23] Uh new viewer here. Glad I found you in
[03:00:24] my timeline. Follow Candace and Fredo,
[03:00:26] too. Charlie Kirk doesn't deserve this.
[03:00:28] Thank you.
[03:00:29] Thank you, Donna Bailey. Thanks for
[03:00:31] joining the program. I enjoyed it. I'm
[03:00:33] glad you're here. Uh Baron, funny how
[03:00:35] Andrew Kovette said that Charlie said no
[03:00:37] one on his team should tell a lie and
[03:00:39] that he would not let him lie when he
[03:00:40] wanted to. You and Daisy are amazing.
[03:00:42] Keep going, Max.
[03:00:44] Well, we're doing our best.
[03:00:48] Yeah, that's You guys are making an
[03:00:49] excellent point. Charlie is the one who
[03:00:51] told Andrew we don't lie, and now you're
[03:00:53] saying Charlie lied all the time.
[03:00:58] And so which is it?
[03:01:01] Either they do or don't. Either he does
[03:01:02] or doesn't lie. You're saying he does. I
[03:01:05] wouldn't want to be you right now. I
[03:01:07] would not want to be you going to the
[03:01:08] donor saying Charlie Kirk was a an
[03:01:11] unadulterated liar.
[03:01:15] If you hurry, you may be able to find
[03:01:17] discount fireworks for the funeral.
[03:01:19] Sorry I had to. Uh prayers for you and
[03:01:21] Jeff's friends. Oh, because of Erica.
[03:01:24] Yeah, we don't we don't grieve that way
[03:01:26] around here. That's not how we grieve.
[03:01:28] Uh Skylark, my cousin Vinnie joke. Yes,
[03:01:30] I understand. I got it. I feel bad for
[03:01:33] CK's parents. They are unknowingly or
[03:01:35] maybe in a pit of vipers with little
[03:01:37] protection. Christ is king indeed. Yeah,
[03:01:43] starting to seem that way. If Andrew
[03:01:45] really knew how much Charlie does like
[03:01:46] Candace, why would he respond to her at
[03:01:48] all after he was shot? That's a good
[03:01:52] question.
[03:01:54] If they weren't friends, why was Andrew
[03:01:57] engaging with her at all? Apparently, he
[03:01:59] had so many text messages that his phone
[03:02:01] broke.
[03:02:02] Why would he choose to respond to her of
[03:02:05] all the different people he needs to
[03:02:06] respond to? Andrew, you don't look good
[03:02:08] here, Baller. You look bad.
[03:02:11] I feel people overlooking what TPUSA was
[03:02:14] turned into after 2020. A massive vote
[03:02:16] getting machine. That's what bad actors
[03:02:19] want to control without Charlie. I think
[03:02:22] it's a money laundering scheme, but
[03:02:24] whatever. Do you think the weird route
[03:02:26] they drove to the hospital was to avoid
[03:02:28] flock cameras? I don't know what route
[03:02:30] they I don't know. It's that weird. I
[03:02:32] mean, I looked at a map. It looked
[03:02:33] pretty normal. Crescendo. Ah, was that
[03:02:36] the word I'm looking for? That's not the
[03:02:37] word I'm looking for.
[03:02:39] It builds to a crescendo, but there's
[03:02:40] some word for the end of a fireworks
[03:02:42] episode. A fireworks show.
[03:02:46] Finale. That's the word I'm looking for.
[03:02:47] The finale.
[03:02:49] The finale. Uh, if they have a video of
[03:02:52] the shooter running off the roof,
[03:02:53] wouldn't that mean they have a video of
[03:02:54] him taking the shot? Allegedly. They say
[03:02:55] they do. We haven't seen it. Still no
[03:02:58] proof TR was even on campus at all. Not
[03:03:00] yet.
[03:03:01] Not yet.
[03:03:04] I stopped reassembling my 306 without a
[03:03:06] screwdriver in the woods. Come on.
[03:03:10] Hope you saw my explanation of that.
[03:03:11] Badly. The jerk movie. I'm blind. It's
[03:03:14] finale. Finale. That's the word I was
[03:03:16] looking for. Yeah, finale. Yeah, the
[03:03:18] jerk was funny. Uh, it was very funny.
[03:03:21] What's the guy's name?
[03:03:24] Steve. Oh gosh.
[03:03:27] Does this mean I'm getting old? I can't
[03:03:29] remember things like that. Uh, my B, my
[03:03:31] favorite is that they put the
[03:03:32] screwdriver found on the roof into
[03:03:33] evidence when it would have been
[03:03:34] required to reassemble the rifle that
[03:03:35] was later left in the park. Yes, he
[03:03:38] brought it back up. Yeah. Again, I I
[03:03:39] hope you guys heard my explanation of
[03:03:41] that. I think that the I think the
[03:03:42] governor has been I think they've
[03:03:45] adopted a different story that doesn't
[03:03:47] require a screwdriver. Maybe that's cuz
[03:03:48] he left it. Dude Bagley says he jumped
[03:03:52] over people going down the stairs to
[03:03:53] help arrest shooter then later realizes
[03:03:55] it came later and he called himself a
[03:03:57] professional. Yeah.
[03:04:01] Baron, phenomenal show today. The
[03:04:02] handler opening trial summary.
[03:04:04] Fantastic. Thank you. Message to Andrew.
[03:04:06] Powerful and moving. Thanks. Wow.
[03:04:09] Trying to get on my good side.
[03:04:12] Don't have social media nor want to. Can
[03:04:13] you please tell us what happened with AK
[03:04:15] on X? So, those of us that don't have X,
[03:04:18] No, thank you. Um, I hope you saw that
[03:04:21] part. You commented
[03:04:23] after I did that, so I hope you saw it.
[03:04:26] If not, hit rewind. I did a whole
[03:04:28] segment on it. Uh, the way Candace talks
[03:04:30] about the J and TPSA connection. Do you
[03:04:33] think TPSA was becoming the next front
[03:04:36] for underlying J style crimes? The bad
[03:04:38] people would have wanted to wait for the
[03:04:39] crimes to continue.
[03:04:42] I think they moved a lot of those types
[03:04:44] of crimes into the nonprofit space.
[03:04:48] TPUSA is a nonprofit.
[03:04:52] Everybody associated with TPUSA seems to
[03:04:54] be like one degree removed from that
[03:04:56] industry. That is
[03:04:59] so I don't know. TPUSA 1.0. Charlie
[03:05:02] Kirk, we don't lie. TPUSA 2.0. Erica.
[03:05:06] Erica. Snap. Trust me, bro. I'm sure you
[03:05:09] meant Andrew. Erica,
[03:05:12] uh, love you, Baron. High IQ and such
[03:05:13] good work for Charlie. Sure, he is
[03:05:14] cheering you and Candace on
[03:05:17] and his grand finale. That's correct.
[03:05:19] All the best, Crisis King indeed. I
[03:05:20] couldn't think of it. Lost my father in
[03:05:22] 2024. Still grieving. EK is a joke. So
[03:05:24] happy I caught your live even if the
[03:05:27] even if it the ended of it. I'm glad
[03:05:31] you're here, too, Laura. I think I know
[03:05:33] what you meant. But thank you. And I'm
[03:05:35] sorry you're still grieving.
[03:05:38] You've been a healing force for the
[03:05:39] grief we and Candace have had since
[03:05:40] Charlie Kirk's life was ended. I will
[03:05:42] forever thank God for you, your family,
[03:05:44] and team. Christ is king indeed. Well,
[03:05:45] thank you. That's humbling. That's very
[03:05:48] humbling. I wonder how many of the
[03:05:50] parties involved lie because they think
[03:05:51] they're true alibis and testimonies more
[03:05:53] destructive than the truth. I.e. no
[03:05:55] alibi because the alibi was cheating on
[03:05:57] their wives or something similar. Oh
[03:05:58] gosh,
[03:06:02] I don't know. Andrew lies worse than
[03:06:04] Jack Hibs rugg. [laughter]
[03:06:08] He lies worse than Jack Higs rug. Oh
[03:06:11] yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Remember Jack got
[03:06:13] caught lying too. They all lied. They've
[03:06:15] all been caught changing their stories.
[03:06:17] And Jack told one Fox News, I think it
[03:06:20] was, that his brother Butch called him
[03:06:22] from the scene and he could hear the
[03:06:23] chaos in the background. Then he tells
[03:06:25] Frank Turk, "I can't remember if it was
[03:06:26] you or Mikey who called me first and I
[03:06:28] was shocked when I got the call." "Well,
[03:06:29] you weren't shocked when Butch called?"
[03:06:32] I Nashville fan. Oh, number one
[03:06:34] Nashville fan. We need a meme of AK in a
[03:06:37] dunce hat.
[03:06:40] I'm not opposed. Might be claiming
[03:06:42] number one for Papa Michigan. A town so
[03:06:43] nice. You got to say it twice. Thank you
[03:06:46] for going, Max. Especially on X today.
[03:06:47] Praying for you. God bless. Christ is
[03:06:50] king indeed.
[03:06:52] Yeah.
[03:06:54] Not my finest moment saying an ugly
[03:06:56] word, but
[03:06:58] when you don't say them a lot, they have
[03:06:59] more meaning. Thank you for prayers for
[03:07:01] my dad Rodney. Slow progressing leukemia
[03:07:05] which was the best of the options.
[03:07:06] Promising clinical trial over the next
[03:07:08] few months. I will say prayers for your
[03:07:09] dad Rodney. I hate that.
[03:07:13] Went to court in Union, New Jersey 2001
[03:07:15] for a big fight. His girlfriend walked
[03:07:17] in all Sheridan.
[03:07:20] He sent her home to change looking look
[03:07:23] into Ken Clement up.
[03:07:26] Um,
[03:07:28] good on that judge. Good on that judge.
[03:07:31] That judge should have sent her home.
[03:07:32] Stacy today should have said, "No, no,
[03:07:34] no, no. You don't wear that into court."
[03:07:36] Maright might have been Bigfoot on the
[03:07:37] roof. He's never confidently captured on
[03:07:38] camera, and when he is, it's blurry.
[03:07:40] That's a good point. It looks just like
[03:07:41] him. [laughter]
[03:07:43] They even had the long arm motion there.
[03:07:45] Uh, perhaps Tracy thought she was
[03:07:46] attending court from the 16th century.
[03:07:49] Henry VII's court comes to mind.
[03:07:54] Talk about Stacy. Uh, you can request
[03:07:56] body cam logs from the company. It
[03:07:58] should indicate whether battery died,
[03:07:59] user turned off, etc.
[03:08:02] You can let me know what they say. Grand
[03:08:05] finale. Yes. Yes. Yes. The grand finale.
[03:08:08] Andrew may have controlled Charlie's
[03:08:09] Twitter, but not his texts. Charlie
[03:08:11] loved Candace.
[03:08:14] I think you guys are right. New color
[03:08:15] name. Battle bun. Red hoodie. Oh, this
[03:08:17] is my angry hoodie. I wear this when I'm
[03:08:19] mad. Or the black hoodie when I got to
[03:08:21] bury someone. Uh they did to Charlie
[03:08:23] what they've been doing to Palestinians.
[03:08:25] Kill him in front of the world. Denied
[03:08:26] it. Took over hard-earned assets.
[03:08:28] Claimed it as theirs and hoping we'll
[03:08:31] accept the narrative and just forget.
[03:08:35] Wow.
[03:08:38] Harsh words. Charlie uh for Candace on
[03:08:41] Brad Lee podcast. I believe you. I
[03:08:44] believe you.
[03:08:47] Was the first officer witness in any
[03:08:49] prior Google search trends? Any of the
[03:08:51] witnesses? Oh, I don't know. I haven't
[03:08:52] looked them up. Probably late now. Uh,
[03:08:56] unrelated question. Are familiar with
[03:08:57] law tube? If so, what are your thoughts
[03:08:59] on them? Watch many trials with their
[03:09:01] commentary. What are your thought
[03:09:02] commentary? What are your thoughts about
[03:09:04] them and competency? Thanks. Uh, I don't
[03:09:07] know that I have any thoughts. Um,
[03:09:09] familiar know who they are, but
[03:09:12] maybe lack of and spiked drink to event
[03:09:15] causing the dozing off to lessen
[03:09:19] incoming blow. I don't know. OTP has me
[03:09:21] wondering all possibilities.
[03:09:24] Oh,
[03:09:26] maybe they spiked his drink so that he
[03:09:28] would be tired
[03:09:30] or kept him up late. I don't know. Aka
[03:09:33] he lied about you to plate you.
[03:09:38] Aka look at his text from Charlie when
[03:09:42] he immediately says we don't lie. Lie is
[03:09:44] being exposed.
[03:09:46] Hard to keep up. Yeah. If you guys have
[03:09:49] nailed it all, longtime listener, first-
[03:09:52] time caller, I'm gonna hang up and
[03:09:53] listen. If TR is presumed innocent until
[03:09:56] proven guilty, why is he rotting in jail
[03:09:58] until the trial, maybe a few more years?
[03:10:01] Yeah, it's a it's a quirk in the law.
[03:10:03] It's a quirk in the law. You're innocent
[03:10:05] until proven guilty, but at the same
[03:10:06] time, they can take your freedom away
[03:10:07] without a charge. I mean I mean without
[03:10:08] you had even been charged, I guess
[03:10:10] charged. You hadn't been in u
[03:10:13] they haven't had a preliminary hearing.
[03:10:15] They haven't cleared the first legal
[03:10:16] hurdle that usually takes place pretty
[03:10:17] quickly.
[03:10:19] It's It's a legal quirk. You were right.
[03:10:21] Tyler was arrested on September 11th. I
[03:10:23] hope the defense mentions it when they
[03:10:24] cross tomorrow.
[03:10:26] I mean, that's what the documents say. I
[03:10:28] have no reason to doubt the documents.
[03:10:31] We'll see. Uh Stacy Sheridan's attire
[03:10:34] reminds me of Jennifer Tilly, the
[03:10:35] plainif and liar liar with her attorney
[03:10:36] Jim Carrey. I saw that, but it was many
[03:10:38] years ago and I don't remember.
[03:10:40] Uh howdy humbl host. So TR's attorney
[03:10:43] also repped Corey Richens not long ago.
[03:10:46] She seemed like she had it way more
[03:10:47] together today than in that trial. What
[03:10:49] do you think? I didn't watch a lot of
[03:10:50] that trial. Um
[03:10:54] but um
[03:10:58] but yeah, I I tend to agree that she
[03:11:04] did a pretty good job today. I can't
[03:11:06] compare it to the other one. Uh I don't
[03:11:09] know what that means. Uh, do you think
[03:11:11] the guy with a badge had a device that
[03:11:13] could disable recording devices so the
[03:11:15] body cam would turn off and the
[03:11:16] screwdriver could be planted?
[03:11:20] Um,
[03:11:22] maybe. I don't know. I had considered
[03:11:24] that like a little mini EMP or something
[03:11:26] to blast it. I don't know. Uh, B, I'm
[03:11:29] sicky icky. Need a few days to get
[03:11:31] better. Well, Moon goddess, we're hoping
[03:11:32] for the best. Let us know how it works
[03:11:34] out. I left handler school pretending to
[03:11:36] learn my Bible for eight months to be
[03:11:38] [laughter]
[03:11:40] yeah wonder what she was doing. Baron,
[03:11:43] can you please leave comments on the
[03:11:44] screen until you completely finish
[03:11:46] responding before displaying that
[03:11:47] comment? I try to I think I do. I maybe
[03:11:49] sometimes I don't about the assets back
[03:11:53] when they used they were used to call
[03:11:56] them governed
[03:11:58] gov nos. Anyone of real interest in
[03:12:01] that? That guy. Okay, thank you. I want
[03:12:05] to see the body cam being shut off,
[03:12:07] shutting down. Does the hand match
[03:12:09] Bagley's or was someone waiting up
[03:12:11] there?
[03:12:14] I don't know. I don't know. Why did your
[03:12:17] stream cut and skip ahead on
[03:12:21] Will it super? I don't know. I didn't
[03:12:22] know it did.
[03:12:24] Make sure it's healthy.
[03:12:28] Seems to be up.
[03:12:31] and check and see if there have been any
[03:12:32] issues.
[03:12:34] Uh, it seems fine.
[03:12:38] Yeah, I mean, everything looks
[03:12:41] looks like it's going swimmingly. I
[03:12:43] don't know.
[03:12:46] Check with your uh local broadband
[03:12:49] service provider. Maybe they'll know.
[03:12:55] Uh, AK's a gas lighter. Dennis's actions
[03:12:58] speak louder than his words.
[03:13:01] PS number one BK fan.
[03:13:04] I don't know what BK is. Burger King,
[03:13:06] you're my number one Burger King fan.
[03:13:07] You're sitting there eating a Whopper.
[03:13:09] Uh PPS. Any single men in New York City
[03:13:13] in the chat? A 38F.
[03:13:15] Tired of Hinge?
[03:13:17] And she likes Fraggle Rock, boys. She
[03:13:20] had HBO as a kid. She comes from money.
[03:13:23] [laughter]
[03:13:24] She comes from money, guys. She had HBO
[03:13:26] as a kid, you know. Take her up. Take
[03:13:29] her out.
[03:13:31] Uh, be great. So grateful for your highQ
[03:13:33] mind to deliver us a highQ outfit. Thank
[03:13:35] you, Baron, for all you do. Your legal
[03:13:37] expertise is invaluable to Charlie's
[03:13:40] investigation. In my opinion, you are
[03:13:42] God ordained for this time. Christ is
[03:13:45] king indeed. That's very kind, very
[03:13:47] humbling. In coaches in coach's lives,
[03:13:50] stole your welcome in. Welcome in.
[03:13:51] Welcome in.
[03:13:54] I believe you can sue him. $3.33 or call
[03:13:57] it even. I'll wait to see what my fine
[03:13:59] is. I'll double it and send it back. I
[03:14:00] did not know he was stealing this. Uh,
[03:14:03] speak, oh, exalted one. Coleman court
[03:14:05] rundown. Yeah. Yeah. Day one. I had a
[03:14:09] thought. Our high IQ family would all
[03:14:11] gather and say a prayer today for
[03:14:12] Candace and for justice. Maybe it will
[03:14:15] reach heaven for Charlie. Jesus Christ
[03:14:16] is king. Um, yeah, pray. I I I encourage
[03:14:20] prayer. Proflegleate prayer.
[03:14:22] Pray without ceasing. The Apostle Paul
[03:14:25] would say, Baron, you won over my
[03:14:27] husband, but about lost me with a
[03:14:28] particular steamy and greasy one.
[03:14:30] [laughter]
[03:14:31] So, I thank you for all you do. Well,
[03:14:33] I'm glad you know, take the bitter with
[03:14:36] the sweet. So, just as Brennan said, I
[03:14:39] just I was talking to you while
[03:14:41] listening. I have it all the time. I
[03:14:43] have that all the time. Every time I
[03:14:44] fall, not every time, but often when I
[03:14:46] fall asleep to a podcast, I I'm on the
[03:14:49] podcast. How I'm going to feel tomorrow
[03:14:50] talking to Buckley and Clint? Uh,
[03:14:53] wouldn't the body cam video show a low
[03:14:54] battery symbol in the corner before it
[03:14:56] dies? I I don't know. I'm getting mixed
[03:14:57] reviews on that. If TR disassembled a
[03:14:59] rifle on the roof, why would it look
[03:15:01] like a rifle when the officer saw him? I
[03:15:03] hope you saw my explanation for that
[03:15:04] earlier. If not, rewind. I talked about
[03:15:07] asking a favor, but understand if you're
[03:15:09] unable to accommodate, could you read
[03:15:11] the full comment on Super Chat? I listen
[03:15:13] while driving a truck, but I get serious
[03:15:15] FOMO when you stop halfway through.
[03:15:16] Tempted to look at my phone. I typically
[03:15:19] read them all.
[03:15:21] I mean, sometimes I don't
[03:15:24] or sometimes I stop and start answering
[03:15:26] it, but I try to if I pull one up, I try
[03:15:27] to read the whole thing unless it's like
[03:15:28] foul or something. Uh, my sisters and I
[03:15:31] had honorary Smokey the Bear Forest
[03:15:34] Ranger badges at 7 to 10 years old in
[03:15:37] mid 1970.
[03:15:39] Okay. Wonder where this is going. Anyone
[03:15:41] can get a badge. Oh. Oh. Refu referring
[03:15:43] to the civilian accompanying officer on
[03:15:45] the roof. Yeah. Okay.
[03:15:48] I hope he didn't pull out the Smokeoky
[03:15:49] the Bear Forest Ranger badge. If Candace
[03:15:52] and Charlie weren't close, why did
[03:15:54] Andrew Kvette call her the day he died
[03:15:56] and the days following? Why did he say
[03:15:58] the Why did he share the screenshot?
[03:16:00] Weird.
[03:16:02] All good questions. She needs to ask
[03:16:03] those. Check all the planes going in and
[03:16:06] out of Utah. Uh, done.
[03:16:09] I remember shaking and being in total
[03:16:11] shock the first time I watched it. I was
[03:16:12] at a pew pew range for my 14th wedding
[03:16:14] anniversary. I honestly haven't felt the
[03:16:16] same since. keep going as a lonely
[03:16:18] Minnesota mom. This community has given
[03:16:21] me so much. Go Max.
[03:16:25] I think a lot of us were genuinely
[03:16:27] disturbed by it. And I I think that
[03:16:29] genuine disturbance
[03:16:31] has led to a now going on 10-month
[03:16:34] investigation into who killed Charlie
[03:16:36] Kirk, how and why. Charlie flat out told
[03:16:38] Andrew on the Charlie Kirk show, "We
[03:16:39] don't lie here." Andrew said that he
[03:16:40] himself was guilty of telling a lie.
[03:16:42] Andrew is just a habitual liar. Nothing
[03:16:44] says nothing he says can be trusted.
[03:16:47] I I don't I have trouble disagreeing
[03:16:49] with that. I mean, you laid it out
[03:16:50] perfectly.
[03:16:53] Watch with Matt and Nate today. Everyone
[03:16:56] looking for you. Prosecution said TR's
[03:16:58] car seen late evening 911, but he was
[03:17:02] not in custody by 6:25 911. More
[03:17:05] evidence of I think they misspoke. I
[03:17:06] thought they I think they meant late
[03:17:08] evening of 910, but I could be wrong.
[03:17:11] I was sickened watching Charlie die and
[03:17:13] not one of his so-called friends rushed
[03:17:14] to him as he fell. They cowed or walked
[03:17:17] away with no thought for Charlie. So
[03:17:18] heartbreaking,
[03:17:24] man. The way you put it, that was harsh.
[03:17:26] Not I mean, I don't mean that in a bad
[03:17:28] way to you. I just hadn't really thought
[03:17:29] of it that way. Grand finale. Yeah. Uh,
[03:17:33] hey Baron, can Big Island Hawaii get a
[03:17:35] shout out? Crisis King indeed. Sure. To
[03:17:39] all our homies in the Big Island.
[03:17:43] No widow would allow their loved ones
[03:17:44] legacy essence of who they were. Yet EK
[03:17:48] is allowing AK and TPSA to destroy who
[03:17:50] Charlie was, saying he was dishonest.
[03:17:52] I'm I'm telling you, if I'm Erica and
[03:17:54] like say I'm Erica and I really love
[03:17:56] Charlie, I would be beside myself with
[03:17:58] someone walking all over his dead body
[03:18:00] like that, I'd be like, "No, you're
[03:18:02] gone, bud. You cannot talk about my
[03:18:03] husband that way."
[03:18:05] Why did What did Trump do for CK due to
[03:18:08] as a result of his relationship with his
[03:18:10] architect father?
[03:18:12] quit proquo buyer remorse. I don't I
[03:18:15] don't even know they knew each other. I
[03:18:16] mean, Trump ran a big org.
[03:18:20] Mr. Kirk was an architect for a big org.
[03:18:22] Like, I I don't think it was like he and
[03:18:24] Donnie were like rubbing elbows and
[03:18:26] high-fiving each other at the site.
[03:18:28] Curious as to why Officer Bagley is no
[03:18:31] longer with UVUPD. Left five months ago.
[03:18:32] Do you think we will find out? I heard
[03:18:34] he got a cush job at a new location down
[03:18:36] in Spanish Fork. That's what I heard. I
[03:18:39] might be thinking of somewhere else.
[03:18:43] And I I think he it was like a more
[03:18:46] money or what. That's just what I heard.
[03:18:49] 1 Timothy 5:6, widow, but she who lives
[03:18:51] in pleasure is dead even while she
[03:18:54] lives.
[03:18:57] TP USA forgot that one. Convenient. Oh,
[03:19:00] then fighting words. Uh, there are toys,
[03:19:02] liquor bottles, home decor, tools, etc.
[03:19:04] whose shape is consistent with a rifle.
[03:19:06] Are these people for real? Go Max.
[03:19:10] And not only that, like one of the
[03:19:12] theories could be the guy on the roof
[03:19:13] was a spotter.
[03:19:16] Like there are lots of things for
[03:19:18] spotting that are long.
[03:19:24] I mean, there's just a ton of stuff. You
[03:19:25] can't fry someone over. Oh, he had
[03:19:26] something long in his hand. Candace made
[03:19:28] Charlie real and you could tell she had
[03:19:30] a beautiful friendship unlike EK. Well,
[03:19:34] do the prosecution at prelim have to
[03:19:35] show all the evidence they have or can
[03:19:37] they withhold until trial so defense
[03:19:38] can't cross? Oh yeah, they can withhold.
[03:19:40] And they are. They're not putting
[03:19:41] anybody up. My B, please pray. I have a
[03:19:44] disease, optic nerve atrophy. Lost my
[03:19:47] license three years ago at 23. I found a
[03:19:49] clinic in Germany that treats what I
[03:19:50] have. I put down a deposit for treatment
[03:19:52] today. Husband and I will go over in
[03:19:53] December. Wow. I will pray for you.
[03:19:55] Optic nerve atrophy. You've never heard
[03:19:57] of it. I do pray for you though.
[03:20:02] If Bagley purged himself lying about a
[03:20:03] body cam, will it change any of the
[03:20:04] admitted evidence? fruit of the
[03:20:06] poisonous tree.
[03:20:11] That's not I don't think that's a proper
[03:20:13] application of the fruit of the
[03:20:14] poisonous tree doctrine.
[03:20:17] A a classic fruit of the poisonous tree
[03:20:20] doctrine is you you search a home and
[03:20:23] you don't have a warrant and it's an
[03:20:24] illegal search and you found a machine
[03:20:27] gun. You can't use that because it was
[03:20:29] the fruit of a poisonous tree and you
[03:20:32] know how to give it back. you you you
[03:20:34] can't take them to try and say here he
[03:20:35] had a machine gun he's illegal he can't
[03:20:36] have a machine gun but that that's the
[03:20:39] more classic example there or they get a
[03:20:42] warrant for one room and they look in
[03:20:43] another room and you know ignoring plain
[03:20:46] view doctrine but you know they walk in
[03:20:48] they open a drawer
[03:20:50] fruit of the poison tree you can't use
[03:20:51] that that's a more classic example
[03:20:54] uh recognizing when a real anti-war
[03:20:57] voice gets taken out and asking who
[03:20:58] benefits that the moment that voice went
[03:21:01] silent
[03:21:02] Keep up the great work. Salam.
[03:21:05] Yeah. I mean, it's hard not to ask who
[03:21:08] benefits cuz it's becoming increasingly
[03:21:10] obvious. I slipped out of my husband's
[03:21:12] funeral to watch this. Oh gosh. I hope
[03:21:14] that was a joke. Recovery time for sick
[03:21:16] icky sonopt homework. No, you need to
[03:21:19] stretch, girl. Please call out section
[03:21:21] 219. I have. I don't know much about it.
[03:21:23] We'll bind us. I believe you. We'll lose
[03:21:25] bit of sovereignty. I I to I I totally
[03:21:26] believe you, but it's we're not talking
[03:21:27] about that. Like I'm not opposed to your
[03:21:29] position, but that that's not really
[03:21:31] what we're talking about. B. When the
[03:21:32] judge allowed evidence without date and
[03:21:34] time, I immediately thought of the video
[03:21:35] of TR turning himself in. Thoughts?
[03:21:42] Yeah, I didn't I didn't think of that,
[03:21:44] but that's a good connection. Mrs. Swan,
[03:21:48] uh, that guy published New Lies for Old
[03:21:50] in ' 84. 10 years later, a method a meth
[03:21:53] methodical US analysis by Mark Rying
[03:21:56] evaluated his geopolitical predictions,
[03:21:58] one of two.
[03:22:01] I hope we're going somewhere with number
[03:22:03] two, uh, such as the calculated into the
[03:22:07] Soviet Union, the result an empirical
[03:22:09] accuracy rate of nearly 94%.
[03:22:12] His predictions came true precisely.
[03:22:14] Well, thank you. Don't know what any of
[03:22:16] that meant, but thank you. Uh, any word
[03:22:18] if Blake is related to James Jimmy Nef
[03:22:22] from Southern Air? Southern Air
[03:22:23] Transport that purchased the plane
[03:22:24] company used for the Iran Contra and
[03:22:26] then by Einstein.
[03:22:29] No, that's a great question.
[03:22:35] That's a great question. Let's look and
[03:22:38] see what we can find real fast.
[03:22:42] Uh,
[03:22:48] well,
[03:22:53] let's see. I I I don't know. Uh, that's
[03:22:56] that's interesting. I'll have to look
[03:22:57] into it. I mean, Nef isn't that unusual
[03:22:58] of a name. You can't say every Nef is
[03:23:00] related.
[03:23:02] Um,
[03:23:06] but yeah, that's interesting.
[03:23:11] I have to look into it. That's that's
[03:23:13] something I've never even considered.
[03:23:16] Uh did not asking about the line of
[03:23:19] sight with the tent setup. Uh tent up
[03:23:22] hurt defense seems like a missed
[03:23:23] opportunity to discredit his witness.
[03:23:26] Can't confirm line of sight tented.
[03:23:30] Um so I think what you're asking is so
[03:23:32] Baggley was on the Hall of Flags. It's a
[03:23:34] great question. I thought about it. He's
[03:23:35] on the Hall of Flags. Would he have been
[03:23:37] able to see Charlie? Because he claimed
[03:23:39] he saw Charlie slump to the left or saw
[03:23:41] his right side or whatever. I don't
[03:23:43] know. I mean,
[03:23:45] you you better know the answer to the
[03:23:47] question before you ask it. It might be
[03:23:48] better to figure it out and hold it off
[03:23:50] till trial.
[03:23:52] You know, if it if it turns out it's
[03:23:54] impossible, why would you blow that
[03:23:55] here? It's kind of a waste. That's a
[03:23:58] good thought, though. Good thought. Um,
[03:24:00] guys, we've reached the end of another
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[03:24:43] But while you're doing all this, I think
[03:24:46] it's very important that you never
[03:24:49] forget that Jesus loves you. Uh, I will
[03:24:52] remind you, I will be off the air
[03:24:54] tomorrow. I have a funeral in the
[03:24:55] morning. Um, and then just about the
[03:24:58] time I get out of that, I have to hustle
[03:24:59] home to do my um, podcast with Buckley
[03:25:03] Carlson and and Clint Russell over at
[03:25:05] Liberty Lockdown. That probably won't be
[03:25:08] viewable tomorrow. He may put a clip up
[03:25:09] or something, but it'll probably not be
[03:25:11] until Wednesday that that comes out. Um,
[03:25:13] so I in all likelihood will not be on
[03:25:16] tomorrow afternoon or evening. I might
[03:25:18] join one of the uh, other podcasts that
[03:25:20] are kind of doing a rundown afterwards
[03:25:21] just to give my thoughts if I have any
[03:25:22] strong thoughts, but I I haven't thought
[03:25:24] about that yet. Um, Wednesday we'll be
[03:25:26] back. We'll do a show uh probably a
[03:25:29] little recapping and then and then
[03:25:30] anything else that we've come up with
[03:25:32] between now and then. Uh, back on
[03:25:34] Thursday as well and then we'll do a
[03:25:36] member show on Friday. And if this is
[03:25:37] still going on on Friday, maybe we'll
[03:25:39] we'll do a long member show and just
[03:25:41] sort of watch and comment together. I
[03:25:43] don't know how we'll handle that, but
[03:25:44] we'll figure it out. We'll figure it
[03:25:45] out. We got plenty we got three days to
[03:25:46] figure it out. Um, but I will see you
[03:25:49] guys soon. I will see you Wednesday
[03:25:51] regardless. And I hope you have a
[03:25:52] wonderful evening. Talk to you soon.