Coffee Talk Episode #7: Professor Tomo Fujita

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcW37HAwoBc

[00:00] this is tomo tomoko this is coffee talk
[00:03] this is tomo tomoko this is coffee talk berkeley
[00:04] berkeley
[00:13] hey tombo all right hi how are you i'm
[00:15] hey tombo all right hi how are you i'm doing
[00:16] doing great um hey everybody i'm kim perleck
[00:18] great um hey everybody i'm kim perleck i'm the chair of the guitar department
[00:20] i'm the chair of the guitar department and welcome to
[00:21] and welcome to another episode of coffee talk um as
[00:24] another episode of coffee talk um as usual we have cheryl bailey assistant
[00:25] usual we have cheryl bailey assistant chair
[00:26] chair with us hello everybody and i actually
[00:28] with us hello everybody and i actually do have my berkeley mug this time
[00:31] do have my berkeley mug this time this episode me too cheers cheryl
[00:34] this episode me too cheers cheryl cheers i don't need a different one but
[00:38] cheers i don't need a different one but that's okay we've got ian steed our
[00:40] that's okay we've got ian steed our senior department coordinator hey ian
[00:42] senior department coordinator hey ian hello
[00:47] and as our special guest today we have
[00:49] and as our special guest today we have tomo fujita
[00:51] tomo fujita professor in the guitar department hey
[00:53] professor in the guitar department hey tommy hi
[00:54] tommy hi hello how are you hey everyone great
[00:57] hello how are you hey everyone great coffee cheers to you
[00:58] coffee cheers to you yes yes definitely yeah this is great
[01:02] yes yes definitely yeah this is great so one of the best things about going to
[01:04] so one of the best things about going to the office as ian says in the beginning
[01:06] the office as ian says in the beginning of each
[01:07] of each episode is we have this pretty intense
[01:09] episode is we have this pretty intense coffee maker
[01:10] coffee maker right like our office is
[01:13] right like our office is kind of the coffee hang and um what i
[01:16] kind of the coffee hang and um what i miss a lot
[01:17] miss a lot i've noticed in the remote campus is
[01:20] i've noticed in the remote campus is like tomo your office is right across
[01:22] like tomo your office is right across from
[01:23] from from the guitar office room 418 yeah
[01:26] from the guitar office room 418 yeah yeah right very cool i always get to see
[01:29] yeah right very cool i always get to see you
[01:30] you over coffee all right all right morning
[01:32] over coffee all right all right morning uh you know yeah lunch time yes
[01:34] uh you know yeah lunch time yes i know so this is really nice to get to
[01:37] i know so this is really nice to get to ride so tomo when you're at home what do
[01:39] ride so tomo when you're at home what do you put in your coffee
[01:40] you put in your coffee how do you take your car just cream no
[01:43] no sugar just cream
[01:45] no sugar just cream half and half nice but
[01:48] half and half nice but i really love half and half so whenever
[01:51] i really love half and half so whenever i go to the shopping
[01:53] i go to the shopping i tend to buy a little too much i buy
[01:56] i tend to buy a little too much i buy like
[01:56] like this like maybe four or five of them so
[01:59] this like maybe four or five of them so at least like a
[02:00] at least like a month you know whoa okay
[02:03] month you know whoa okay yeah yeah you always have it i always i
[02:05] yeah yeah you always have it i always i want to have a half and half so um
[02:08] want to have a half and half so um yeah i buy tons that's great what kind
[02:11] yeah i buy tons that's great what kind of coffee do you drink like
[02:13] of coffee do you drink like coffee actually i buy you know online
[02:15] coffee actually i buy you know online from louisiana
[02:18] from louisiana funny from louisiana but it's called
[02:20] funny from louisiana but it's called coffee louisiana coffee
[02:22] coffee louisiana coffee like really uh kind of dark
[02:25] like really uh kind of dark you know dark taste but um i again i buy
[02:28] you know dark taste but um i again i buy 18 count or 20 can one you know so that
[02:31] 18 count or 20 can one you know so that i have
[02:31] i have everything stock you know just like a
[02:33] everything stock you know just like a strings a lot of other
[02:38] is that is that a roaster louisiana or
[02:40] is that is that a roaster louisiana or it's the just the
[02:42] it's the just the the brand brand louisiana louisiana i
[02:45] the brand brand louisiana louisiana i think
[02:46] think i'll show you next time yeah yeah it's
[02:47] i'll show you next time yeah yeah it's really good coffee like you know
[02:49] really good coffee like you know why can't outside i mean now i have more
[02:51] why can't outside i mean now i have more like a
[02:52] like a package like you know without the cans
[02:54] package like you know without the cans well okay and then
[02:55] well okay and then my wife beth she buys a little bit
[02:58] my wife beth she buys a little bit flavor coffee like you know
[03:00] flavor coffee like you know um something hazelnut or
[03:03] Um, something hazelnut or, uh, something, you know, vanilla like that.
[03:06] Uh, something, you know, vanilla like that, then we...
[03:06] Then we mix just a little bit of that and that.
[03:08] Mix just a little bit of that and that. That's weird.
[03:10] Yeah, nice. That sounds great. That sounds great.
[03:13] Nice. That sounds great. That sounds great. Um, so one of the first questions we've...
[03:16] Um, so one of the first questions we've always been asking people...
[03:17] Always been asking people, okay? Is that you have had a couple of...
[03:20] Okay, is that you have had a couple of different...
[03:21] Different first days at Berkeley. You've been a...
[03:23] Student, and you've been a faculty member. So...
[03:24] And you've been a faculty member. So, could you pick one of those...
[03:26] Could you pick one of those first days and tell us about it? You...
[03:27] First days and tell us about it. You could tell us about both as well, but...
[03:30] Could tell us about both as well, but what was it like for you on your first...
[03:32] What was it like for you on your first day of Berkeley?
[03:33] Day of Berkeley. Well, you know, real first days, really...
[03:35] Well, you know, real first days, really, when, when I arrived at Boston and the...
[03:37] When, when I arrived at Boston and the next day...
[03:39] Next day, um, my roommate or I was just to stay...
[03:40] Um, my roommate or I was just to stay with...
[03:44] With, you know, brought me to, um, Berkeley...
[03:44] You know, brought me to, um, Berkeley by car. And first thing I go into the 150...
[03:47] By car. And first thing I go into the 150 myself...
[03:52] Myself. Going downstairs, I got lost right away.
[03:53] Going downstairs, I got lost right away. That's almost like, what's going on?
[03:57] Like, that's almost like what's going on? Like, I'm almost like...
[04:00] I'm almost like, really not, you know, able to find...
[04:00] Really not, you know, able to find anywhere. Then I ended up...
[04:04] anywhere then i ended up i go to laundry room or something really
[04:06] i go to laundry room or something really hot you know that was the first day
[04:08] hot you know that was the first day really
[04:08] really and then yeah that's first day really go
[04:11] and then yeah that's first day really go around i can see the ensemble you know
[04:13] around i can see the ensemble you know um
[04:14] um and so i have a really bad sense of
[04:16] and so i have a really bad sense of direction
[04:17] direction and being in a 150 myself first thing i
[04:19] and being in a 150 myself first thing i was finding a class was really difficult
[04:23] was finding a class was really difficult and i yeah and remember first class was
[04:25] and i yeah and remember first class was arranging one
[04:26] arranging one by brian lewis and he's a very nice guy
[04:30] by brian lewis and he's a very nice guy he talks
[04:31] he talks everything you know detail i have no
[04:34] everything you know detail i have no idea what he's talking about
[04:37] idea what he's talking about because i didn't realize my english
[04:39] because i didn't realize my english skills are really horrible
[04:41] skills are really horrible in other words i can read i can read but
[04:43] in other words i can read i can read but my listening skill is like
[04:45] my listening skill is like wow everybody talks so fast and
[04:48] wow everybody talks so fast and everybody has a boston accent a little
[04:49] everybody has a boston accent a little bit right so i was like wow
[04:51] bit right so i was like wow what's that you know yeah so like a
[04:53] what's that you know yeah so like a language problem was my first like
[04:56] language problem was my first like you know major problem at the berkeley i
[04:58] you know major problem at the berkeley i was like wow how
[04:59] was like wow how how can i um overcome this you know so
[05:03] how can i um overcome this you know so that was hard yeah i i even missed
[05:06] that was hard yeah i i even missed i even missed the you know midterm
[05:08] i even missed the you know midterm because i didn't know when when was the
[05:09] because i didn't know when when was the midterm
[05:11] midterm wow you know tomo can you find your way
[05:14] wow you know tomo can you find your way around the one filled
[05:15] around the one filled 50 building now because i still get lost
[05:17] 50 building now because i still get lost in the world
[05:19] in the world yeah now actually now they changed a
[05:21] yeah now actually now they changed a little bit
[05:22] little bit so yeah i don't know exactly what i i
[05:25] so yeah i don't know exactly what i i have to go around a little bit yeah
[05:28] have to go around a little bit yeah yeah i think that's one thing is that
[05:30] yeah i think that's one thing is that nobody understands that when they first
[05:31] nobody understands that when they first come you like you may never
[05:32] come you like you may never know how to get through yeah most
[05:35] know how to get through yeah most buildings go straight
[05:37] buildings go straight up you know go this way that way but
[05:39] up you know go this way that way but that's like almost like
[05:40] that's like almost like every angle like in almost like a two
[05:42] every angle like in almost like a two different stairs in
[05:43] different stairs in ensemble rooms especially yeah how are
[05:45] ensemble rooms especially yeah how are you going to find an ensemble room you
[05:47] you going to find an ensemble room you know how to explain to go to where you
[05:49] know how to explain to go to where you know
[05:51] omo that's you know that was so brave of
[05:54] omo that's you know that was so brave of you
[05:54] you to come from japan to berkeley
[05:58] to come from japan to berkeley you were so excited obviously yeah
[06:01] you were so excited obviously yeah but uh to berkeley and and just
[06:05] but uh to berkeley and and just i mean that's such a commitment i'm
[06:07] I mean that's such a commitment I'm always admire.
[06:08] Always admire um international students that come.
[06:11] Um international students that come particularly if.
[06:12] Particularly if they're so excited and they their.
[06:13] They're so excited and they their English might be.
[06:15] English might be yeah really and I just think wow I don't.
[06:18] Yeah really and I just think wow I don't know if I could do that myself I'm.
[06:20] Not brave enough I said I see well it's.
[06:22] Not brave enough I said I see well it's I think.
[06:23] I think music brought us all together and taught.
[06:26] Music brought us all together and taught Berkeley and that's kind of first.
[06:27] Berkeley and that's kind of first passion.
[06:28] Passion and then after that anything any problem.
[06:31] And then after that anything any problem just fine.
[06:32] Just fine just so you have to just you know do it.
[06:34] Just so you have to just you know do it you know so that's.
[06:35] You know so that's that kind of a attitude I had but also.
[06:38] That kind of a attitude I had but also I want a lot of people to know that.
[06:42] Once I gave up my guitar gave up playing.
[06:47] Once I gave up my guitar gave up playing and a lot of people don't know just.
[06:49] And a lot of people don't know just because.
[06:50] Because um you know I don't tell much about what.
[06:53] Um you know I don't tell much about what happened was like you know uh just like.
[06:55] Happened was like you know teenager.
[06:57] Everybody you know teenager you know play rock music and all that.
[06:59] You know play rock music and all that and then you find.
[07:00] And then you find you know your favorite guitar player.
[07:03] You know your favorite guitar player being a band you play.
[07:05] Being a band you play so up till age 16.
[07:08] so up till age 16 17 i was just like wow i want to do this
[07:12] 17 i was just like wow i want to do this then then parents teacher everybody
[07:16] then then parents teacher everybody talking about college and then
[07:19] talking about college and then i started hearing things like music is
[07:22] i started hearing things like music is not so
[07:22] not so great choice to have your career just
[07:25] great choice to have your career just because no guarantee
[07:28] because no guarantee and my mother said that too then uh i
[07:31] and my mother said that too then uh i you know i was talking to my
[07:32] you know i was talking to my teacher and i uh i didn't have enough
[07:35] teacher and i uh i didn't have enough um like confidence about the plan
[07:39] um like confidence about the plan so i thought okay my my idea was like
[07:42] so i thought okay my my idea was like this i go to regular college
[07:44] this i go to regular college please my parents maybe two years i go
[07:47] please my parents maybe two years i go to berkeley
[07:48] to berkeley you know just two years to enjoy my
[07:51] you know just two years to enjoy my american life my dream
[07:53] american life my dream two years and that was my dream so
[07:55] two years and that was my dream so basically
[07:56] basically 17 to 18 two years
[07:59] 17 to 18 two years i didn't touch my guitar at all wow i
[08:02] i didn't touch my guitar at all wow i just did all about the studying
[08:04] just did all about the studying studying you know for college
[08:07] studying you know for college so like really study i study like almost
[08:10] so like really study i study like almost like i get up
[08:11] like i get up every day summer i get up 5 a.m i study
[08:14] every day summer i get up 5 a.m i study from 6 00 a.m
[08:16] from 6 00 a.m to noon six hours and then
[08:19] to noon six hours and then take a break and then 2 p.m to you know
[08:22] take a break and then 2 p.m to you know 6
[08:22] 6 7 so that's 12 hours a day the reason is
[08:25] 7 so that's 12 hours a day the reason is one of my teachers
[08:27] one of my teachers at the high school the guy says if you
[08:30] at the high school the guy says if you study
[08:31] study six hours up to noon and then six hours
[08:35] six hours up to noon and then six hours afternoon still have a free time
[08:39] this is funny after the summer i so
[08:41] this is funny after the summer i so excited i
[08:42] excited i i talked to this guy i did this and he
[08:45] i talked to this guy i did this and he goes like
[08:46] goes like whoa that was just expression i didn't
[08:50] whoa that was just expression i didn't really meant to say that's really
[08:52] really meant to say that's really reality that's easy
[08:54] reality that's easy okay wow what topics were you studying
[08:59] okay wow what topics were you studying english actually studying english like
[09:02] english actually studying english like you know about the reading you know
[09:03] you know about the reading you know reading
[09:03] reading right yeah so the english history
[09:07] right yeah so the english history math you know yeah because that's the
[09:10] math you know yeah because that's the one
[09:11] one it's really important you know history
[09:13] it's really important you know history math and english you know that's
[09:14] math and english you know that's i study and then i went to like you know
[09:18] i study and then i went to like you know like kind of a school that to teach
[09:20] like kind of a school that to teach these like you know high
[09:22] these like you know high level course you know so and i didn't
[09:24] level course you know so and i didn't study
[09:25] study um when i was a junior high school i was
[09:28] um when i was a junior high school i was really bad but in high school
[09:31] really bad but in high school i had a really great teacher really
[09:32] i had a really great teacher really helpful i had a little bit of
[09:34] helpful i had a little bit of anxiety problem you know just always you
[09:36] anxiety problem you know just always you know a little bit feel
[09:38] know a little bit feel now now really um you know great so
[09:42] now now really um you know great so this english teacher very kind
[09:45] this english teacher very kind he really understand my anxiety problem
[09:48] he really understand my anxiety problem back in the 80s people don't know about
[09:50] back in the 80s people don't know about anxiety back then
[09:52] anxiety back then he really understood that then he just
[09:53] he really understood that then he just really put me inside
[09:55] really put me inside don't worry don't worry you know i will
[09:57] don't worry don't worry you know i will help you so he really helped me
[09:59] help you so he really helped me like you know you know then he
[10:01] like you know you know then he encouraged me says
[10:02] encouraged me says if you study this if you get this you
[10:04] if you study this if you get this you get scholarship
[10:06] get scholarship oh and i did that and i got only
[10:09] oh and i did that and i got only two guy from the high school got
[10:11] two guy from the high school got scholarship so i got second year scholarship
[10:13] so i got second year i got full scholarship from high school
[10:16] i got full scholarship from high school you know
[10:17] you know and then so this guy really helped me so
[10:19] and then so this guy really helped me so almost like us
[10:20] almost like us gradually i'm start gaining confidence
[10:23] gradually i'm start gaining confidence in different direction
[10:24] in different direction not the guitar from different source you
[10:27] not the guitar from different source you know
[10:27] know so now i think that teacher helped me
[10:31] so now i think that teacher helped me my confidence level you know get out
[10:34] my confidence level you know get out from
[10:35] from you know anxiety attack right
[10:38] you know anxiety attack right and then two years i believe these
[10:40] and then two years i believe these teachers to study
[10:42] teachers to study so i went to college and i don't know
[10:45] so i went to college and i don't know why
[10:46] why i i chose uh russian to study at the
[10:49] i i chose uh russian to study at the college
[10:49] college wow the reason is i i really figured out
[10:53] wow the reason is i i really figured out how to make good money quickly
[10:57] how to make good money quickly so back then my research was telling me
[11:00] so back then my research was telling me if i study russian and if i do
[11:03] if i study russian and if i do um you know business
[11:07] um you know business you know stock market and all that stuff
[11:09] you know stock market and all that stuff right some russian
[11:10] right some russian and then that was good pay right away so
[11:13] and then that was good pay right away so that was that was my my goal study russian get a great job
[11:17] my my goal study russian get a great job i play guitar all day oh i mean all weekend
[11:19] weekend that was my idea in reality
[11:23] that was my idea in reality i study at the you know college russia
[11:26] i study at the you know college russia means means you know seven eight courses russian and
[11:30] you know seven eight courses russian and everything written in english so i was like
[11:33] everything written in english so i was like okay understand english to understand russian
[11:37] okay understand english to understand russian russian then understand the japanese man that's a lot of work you know
[11:42] a lot of work you know and then but i did and i hate it
[11:45] and then but i did and i hate it then i put the band together funkman for you know
[11:49] you know my mind i kept playing and what happened was about a year at the college i hate it but just skip continue
[11:57] skip continue then i found the person who just got the scholarship from berkeley
[12:01] berkeley a guy named koichi osamu he's a bass player
[12:05] a guy named koichi osamu he's a bass player and he went to really great school kyoto kyoto university
[12:13] kyoto university and i found him because a small town
[12:17] and i found him because a small town and he hated me because i asked too much
[12:20] and he hated me because i asked too much question
[12:23] because i go next to him um i i heard
[12:27] because i go next to him um i i heard you uh got a scholarship and uh i'm
[12:29] you uh got a scholarship and uh i'm interested in berkeley
[12:30] interested in berkeley you go like practicing you know like you
[12:33] you go like practicing you know like you know apply-based practicing he didn't
[12:35] know apply-based practicing he didn't smile practicing
[12:36] smile practicing and i just i keep asking questions
[12:39] and i just i keep asking questions he gave up he started telling me all the
[12:43] he gave up he started telling me all the you know what he done and then every
[12:47] you know what he done and then every step i follow
[12:49] step i follow and about a half maybe six months later
[12:53] and about a half maybe six months later he went to berkeley that
[12:54] he went to berkeley that was 82 i think 82 83
[12:59] was 82 i think 82 83 and then this is funny too i still ask a
[13:02] and then this is funny too i still ask a question
[13:03] question in letter sending the letter to boston
[13:08] in letter sending the letter to boston then he answered a question but then
[13:11] then he answered a question but then i forgot to ask one more question that
[13:14] i forgot to ask one more question that takes about two weeks more
[13:16] takes about two weeks more you know that's so so that's why like
[13:19] you know that's so so that's why like you know i you know i tell people you know people email me
[13:21] tell people you know people email me asking did you get the email
[13:23] asking did you get the email well you have to wait two weeks you know
[13:26] well you have to wait two weeks you know because that's how it is
[13:27] because that's how it is that's what i did so you have to work on your patients
[13:32] your patients wow so then from there you had the courage to audition to berkeley or
[13:38] courage to audition to berkeley or yes then yeah so convincing people to support that or did you do it
[13:44] people to support that or did you do it quietly
[13:45] quietly actually kind of secretly secretly i stopped working on it i didn't tell my parents
[13:52] and then um then that time i start taking jazz guitarism
[13:57] just because berkeley is just a school i have to have a jazz
[13:59] so i kind of know a little bit about you know chord changes but
[14:04] i still play kind of pentatonic or whatever the field i play
[14:08] i didn't know two five lines i didn't know theory so i found the guitar teacher named takeshi yamaguchi
[14:14] teacher named takeshi yamaguchi in japan kyoto so he teaches very very strict you know um like
[14:20] strict you know um like good way you know so uh so i took his group lesson.
[14:23] full lesson last last you know last week of the month.
[14:28] always said he said don't bring a guitar then i have to write all the notes he explained dorian scale for that.
[14:36] three plus what i mean what's that you know like you know degrees and all that.
[14:40] so first thing i mean i still remember first lesson come in.
[14:43] he plays what is this what you know like what what degree oh um plus seven okay like that you know.
[14:52] what is 13 maybe you know i don't know okay good and um i take you kind of do you know.
[15:01] then after that you know he talked interval all the mores you know everything.
[15:06] so here's the funny part is transcription he teach me transcription every detail what strings what finger what picking if i miss one class.
[15:17] three days later i have a letter music all written.
[15:21] all written fingering strings picking everything
[15:24] fingering strings picking everything also you can't miss once a year in this
[15:27] also you can't miss once a year in this program you know
[15:28] program you know right so he taught me how to play jazz
[15:31] right so he taught me how to play jazz guitar
[15:32] guitar and then um a lot of story around it but
[15:34] and then um a lot of story around it but my karate teacher
[15:36] my karate teacher i found out that he loves jazz guitar he
[15:39] i found out that he loves jazz guitar he loves
[15:39] loves bunny you know bernie cassell kenny
[15:41] bunny you know bernie cassell kenny barrell he's the one
[15:43] barrell he's the one again secretly helping me
[15:46] again secretly helping me to do this like to get the teacher get
[15:49] to do this like to get the teacher get this idea you know
[15:51] this idea you know then about one year
[15:54] then about one year actually less than one year i really
[15:56] actually less than one year i really worked hard and i sent my demo tape
[15:58] worked hard and i sent my demo tape and at the same time i studied english
[16:00] and at the same time i studied english too
[16:01] too i went to english school and i made a
[16:04] i went to english school and i made a friends an english teacher
[16:05] friends an english teacher so then we become friends so i didn't
[16:07] so then we become friends so i didn't have to pay for the english you know
[16:09] have to pay for the english you know we kind of teach it you know and then i
[16:12] we kind of teach it you know and then i send a demo tape to berkeley
[16:14] send a demo tape to berkeley and i i got scholarship
[16:19] and this is back in um
[16:22] and this is back in um 84 1984.
[16:25] 84 1984. i got a scholarship from berkeley uh
[16:28] i got a scholarship from berkeley uh 2500
[16:30] 2500 i think from berkeley and then i forgot
[16:33] i think from berkeley and then i forgot how many
[16:34] how many yeah something like you know 2500 from
[16:37] yeah something like you know 2500 from berkeley
[16:37] berkeley two it is a twenty twenty five hundred
[16:40] two it is a twenty twenty five hundred then two thousand from
[16:41] then two thousand from something between japanese japanese and
[16:44] something between japanese japanese and japan and berkeley something like
[16:45] japan and berkeley something like that and i have a two hundred dollars
[16:48] that and i have a two hundred dollars about columbia just
[16:50] about columbia just this is kind of funny too you know i got
[16:51] this is kind of funny too you know i got the old just so john about colombia i
[16:53] the old just so john about colombia i have no idea who is john ababa
[16:55] have no idea who is john ababa back then yeah but then i got a
[16:58] scholarship and then back then one semester was 2000
[16:59] scholarship and then back then one semester was 2000 or 1700 1750 i think
[17:03] or 1700 1750 i think yeah wow so i thought okay i can do it
[17:07] yeah wow so i thought okay i can do it and then scholarship was
[17:10] and then scholarship was available within two years so i decided
[17:13] available within two years so i decided 84 to 86 i work to get my living
[17:17] 84 to 86 i work to get my living expenses
[17:22] expenses wow so once i got discussed i said
[17:26] wow so once i got discussed i said i can schedule my mother my father i
[17:28] i can schedule my mother my father i sorry i quit
[17:30] sorry i quit ah yeah then he said they said okay
[17:33] ah yeah then he said they said okay wow i mean so you were studying at one
[17:36] wow i mean so you were studying at one point there
[17:37] point there russian in college yes and other
[17:40] russian in college yes and other subjects yes then you were studying
[17:43] subjects yes then you were studying english separately
[17:44] english separately to get ready to come to the united
[17:45] to get ready to come to the united states you're studying karate
[17:47] states you're studying karate right and you were practicing jazz
[17:49] right and you were practicing jazz guitar and funk guitar and you had a
[17:51] guitar and funk guitar and you had a band
[17:52] band yeah so that's a tremendous work ethic
[17:55] yeah so that's a tremendous work ethic for a young person and then you had your
[17:59] for a young person and then you had your goal
[17:59] goal set up in in in public you had one
[18:02] set up in in in public you had one pursuit
[18:03] pursuit of an undergraduate degree then in
[18:05] of an undergraduate degree then in secret you had another pursuit of this
[18:07] secret you had another pursuit of this audition and then once you
[18:08] audition and then once you achieved that goal of getting the
[18:10] achieved that goal of getting the scholarship then you had a plan
[18:12] scholarship then you had a plan for the finances yeah that's right yeah
[18:15] for the finances yeah that's right yeah and so
[18:16] and so that's a tremendous work ethic that you
[18:19] that's a tremendous work ethic that you developed
[18:20] developed i did yeah and yeah how you know do you
[18:23] i did yeah and yeah how you know do you think
[18:24] think obviously that is something that
[18:26] obviously that is something that translates in every part of your life
[18:28] translates in every part of your life and so when you came to berkeley and you
[18:30] and so when you came to berkeley and you were a music student and then
[18:33] were a music student and then when you went into these parts of your
[18:35] when you went into these parts of your career yeah
[18:36] career yeah this obviously is something you took
[18:37] this obviously is something you took with you and continued to develop like
[18:39] with you and continued to develop like that kind of
[18:40] that kind of right yeah i oh i think all i always
[18:43] right yeah i oh i think all i always think
[18:44] think i'm good at it how to pacing my time
[18:47] i'm good at it how to pacing my time planning planning you know yeah almost a
[18:50] planning planning you know yeah almost a planner yeah
[18:51] planner yeah but the reason is up till
[18:55] but the reason is up till up till i was 13 i had
[18:58] up till i was 13 i had i have no desire anything i don't i
[19:01] i have no desire anything i don't i don't like sports i don't like
[19:03] don't like sports i don't like i don't really like any music yet you
[19:06] i don't really like any music yet you know so
[19:06] know so i was just almost like uh almost like uh
[19:11] i was just almost like uh almost like uh it's really funny to explain almost no
[19:14] it's really funny to explain almost no desire
[19:15] desire and no direction it just almost a bubble
[19:18] and no direction it just almost a bubble it's just kind of
[19:19] it's just kind of floating not doing anything and i
[19:22] floating not doing anything and i i didn't like myself about being there
[19:25] i didn't like myself about being there because some people really enjoy sports
[19:27] because some people really enjoy sports but i just don't
[19:29] but i just don't like sports you know so i just don't i
[19:32] like sports you know so i just don't i try to you know
[19:33] try to you know basketball the baseball but i'm not good
[19:35] basketball the baseball but i'm not good at whis ball you know so i
[19:37] at whis ball you know so i so everybody in japan does everything
[19:39] so everybody in japan does everything kind of one way
[19:40] kind of one way and then they respect it that way if i
[19:42] and then they respect it that way if i don't do it they they
[19:44] don't do it they they did kind of a you know put you know kind
[19:47] did kind of a you know put you know kind of wrong spot
[19:49] of wrong spot you know i mean actually i had a little
[19:51] you know i mean actually i had a little bit of when i was elementary school i
[19:53] bit of when i was elementary school i had a little bit um
[19:55] had a little bit um like bully kind of thing people didn't
[19:57] like bully kind of thing people didn't like me because i don't really fit in
[19:59] like me because i don't really fit in the
[20:00] the group right and i had a hard time with
[20:03] group right and i had a hard time with that
[20:04] that yeah and then express myself music and
[20:07] yeah and then express myself music and that's that's not a real good thing
[20:09] that's that's not a real good thing back in the early 80s you know
[20:11] back in the early 80s you know especially
[20:13] especially um elementary school high school
[20:15] um elementary school high school everybody wanted to do it
[20:16] everybody wanted to do it same thing okay yeah so that was kind of
[20:19] same thing okay yeah so that was kind of hard time you know
[20:20] hard time you know but then then once i found the guitar
[20:23] but then then once i found the guitar i really like this
[20:26] i really like this i really like this almost like i just
[20:29] i really like this almost like i just want to always go back to listen to
[20:31] want to always go back to listen to records or playing
[20:33] records or playing i still remember my mother said hey it's
[20:35] i still remember my mother said hey it's dinner it's a dinner
[20:37] dinner it's a dinner wait wait wait you know i have to get
[20:39] wait wait wait you know i have to get this voicemail sorry you know before i
[20:41] this voicemail sorry you know before i get to dinner you know
[20:42] get to dinner you know and after the dinner he really quick you
[20:45] and after the dinner he really quick you know to go back again listen again like
[20:47] know to go back again listen again like that
[20:47] that just every day is more like you know
[20:51] just every day is more like you know it's a good expression one of my high
[20:53] it's a good expression one of my high school student
[20:55] school student um said it okay uh
[20:58] um said it okay uh what happened is i had one really great
[21:01] what happened is i had one really great you know stu
[21:02] you know stu you know friends of high school and he
[21:03] you know friends of high school and he plays guitar as a hobby but i was really
[21:06] plays guitar as a hobby but i was really getting more
[21:07] getting more you know into it and then i got a um
[21:11] you know into it and then i got a um i i got into you know college with
[21:14] i i got into you know college with russian but then this you know my friend
[21:16] russian but then this you know my friend he
[21:17] he he didn't get in the college so
[21:18] he didn't get in the college so basically
[21:20] basically one year he's you know stayed
[21:23] one year he's you know stayed just you know studying to get to the
[21:25] just you know studying to get to the place he wanted to be
[21:26] place he wanted to be so we always hang out the weekend and um
[21:31] so we always hang out the weekend and um he said um you work like a soldier
[21:35] he said um you work like a soldier that's he always said he's just work
[21:38] that's he always said he's just work like a soldier just so you just do it
[21:40] like a soldier just so you just do it just almost no i mean
[21:42] just almost no i mean not the known feeling but just almost no
[21:44] not the known feeling but just almost no no no hesitation to do it
[21:46] no no hesitation to do it he always says amazing you can do that
[21:51] he always says amazing you can do that you feel like you still do it right i
[21:54] you feel like you still do it right i still do yeah
[21:56] still do yeah yeah and i actually i i calm down a
[21:58] yeah and i actually i i calm down a little bit
[22:01] yeah well you know hand in hand with
[22:05] yeah well you know hand in hand with that
[22:05] that um what came up for me is you talked
[22:08] um what came up for me is you talked about a teacher that you had that was
[22:09] about a teacher that you had that was really compassionate with you
[22:11] really compassionate with you yes i feel like
[22:15] yes i feel like the students know you in two ways they
[22:17] the students know you in two ways they know you for for
[22:18] know you for for being just just like a joyful like
[22:22] being just just like a joyful like constant practicer you know
[22:23] constant practicer you know you're constantly inspiring them to keep
[22:26] you're constantly inspiring them to keep practicing and you are always
[22:28] practicing and you are always learning something new and then i think
[22:29] learning something new and then i think they do know you also for
[22:31] they do know you also for showing them that kind of compassion
[22:33] showing them that kind of compassion then um
[22:34] then um one way and specific that i always
[22:37] one way and specific that i always remember is you have these picks
[22:39] remember is you have these picks oh yes your students can you can you
[22:41] oh yes your students can you can you talk a little bit about the influence of
[22:42] talk a little bit about the influence of that teacher and then about these picks
[22:44] that teacher and then about these picks yeah yeah well yeah i have this yeah
[22:48] yeah yeah well yeah i have this yeah well
[22:50] yeah like you know i think we all like
[22:54] yeah like you know i think we all like to teach
[22:54] to teach excellent teach you know great part of
[22:57] excellent teach you know great part of music
[22:58] music life and everything but then sometimes
[23:00] life and everything but then sometimes before we learn
[23:01] before we learn everybody has personality so that
[23:05] everybody has personality so that personality is kind of getting away to
[23:07] personality is kind of getting away to not uh
[23:08] not uh able to learn so pushing see i push a
[23:12] able to learn so pushing see i push a lot myself right go
[23:13] lot myself right go go go go you know and i did that a
[23:14] go go go you know and i did that a little bit with my students and some
[23:16] little bit with my students and some students got
[23:16] students got really scared you know because it's too
[23:18] really scared you know because it's too much you know too much passion too much
[23:21] much you know too much passion too much more
[23:21] more so i just decided to do like you know
[23:23] so i just decided to do like you know figuring out
[23:24] figuring out this one first thing don't worry
[23:27] this one first thing don't worry don't worry just don't worry just
[23:29] don't worry just don't worry just because first if you worry that's
[23:31] because first if you worry that's already it's not good so don't worry
[23:33] already it's not good so don't worry and next one once you know what to do
[23:37] and next one once you know what to do and this is what you do you compare with
[23:40] and this is what you do you compare with other students
[23:41] other students right so i said don't compare just don't
[23:44] right so i said don't compare just don't compare because
[23:45] compare because it's just my my mother said if you look
[23:47] it's just my my mother said if you look up if you do down it's not
[23:48] up if you do down it's not no end no no no need to have a
[23:52] no end no no no need to have a discussion about who's better who's bad
[23:54] discussion about who's better who's bad you know because
[23:56] you know because you have to do what you need to do and
[23:58] you have to do what you need to do and then if you do
[24:00] then if you do no work then this is how smart people
[24:04] no work then this is how smart people don't expect too fast
[24:08] don't expect too fast you know because once you're smart and
[24:10] you know because once you're smart and you work hard you
[24:11] you work hard you expect too much so don't expect too hard
[24:14] expect too much so don't expect too hard in too much you know too fast and then
[24:17] in too much you know too fast and then always
[24:18] always i think this one important be kind to
[24:20] i think this one important be kind to yourself because i
[24:21] yourself because i i i kind of hurt myself you know
[24:25] i i kind of hurt myself you know pushing me push myself you know because
[24:27] pushing me push myself you know because i always think i work many hours next
[24:29] i always think i work many hours next day
[24:30] day not enough you know that's the worst
[24:32] not enough you know that's the worst feeling and i think that's
[24:34] feeling and i think that's not good you know i mean for a while i
[24:36] not good you know i mean for a while i was doing like that but i think no good
[24:38] was doing like that but i think no good so i said
[24:39] so i said it's all all good you know i want to say
[24:42] it's all all good you know i want to say for people who are listening to this and
[24:43] for people who are listening to this and not watching it
[24:44] not watching it what tomo did was he wrote those
[24:46] what tomo did was he wrote those reminders they're actually printed
[24:48] reminders they're actually printed on guitar picks yeah and they have his
[24:51] on guitar picks yeah and they have his logo on them and then there's these four
[24:52] logo on them and then there's these four reminders and tomo
[24:54] reminders and tomo if people want to have those reminders
[24:56] if people want to have those reminders they can get those from you
[24:58] they can get those from you yeah well i mean pick boys sell these
[25:00] yeah well i mean pick boys sell these yeah that's great and
[25:01] yeah that's great and actually i can um this is one of the
[25:04] actually i can um this is one of the student um
[25:06] student um can you see yeah it's a letter from a
[25:09] can you see yeah it's a letter from a student a handwritten
[25:10] student a handwritten yeah that's called tomo's advice yeah
[25:13] yeah that's called tomo's advice yeah this is um
[25:17] you know i oh you see this pic came from
[25:20] you know i oh you see this pic came from this paper actually
[25:22] this paper actually oh wow because he's saying play with
[25:23] oh wow because he's saying play with feeling don't compare
[25:25] feeling don't compare yeah and i always say that but i didn't
[25:27] yeah and i always say that but i didn't realize i always said that to everybody
[25:30] realize i always said that to everybody do you know what i mean so like this one
[25:34] do you know what i mean so like this one came from owen you know my one of my
[25:36] came from owen you know my one of my students you know
[25:37] students you know he's at the berkeley now and uh he said
[25:40] he's at the berkeley now and uh he said happy birthday thank you for everything
[25:42] happy birthday thank you for everything and he gave me this
[25:43] and he gave me this cool right yeah so yeah yeah then after
[25:47] cool right yeah so yeah yeah then after that like you know i thought okay this
[25:48] that like you know i thought okay this is
[25:48] is actually do make a pick and then people
[25:51] actually do make a pick and then people like you know
[25:52] like you know kind of a you know great gift to
[25:55] kind of a you know great gift to something oops sorry you know a great
[25:57] something oops sorry you know a great gift to you know somebody who you
[26:00] gift to you know somebody who you you care about you know i thought that's
[26:01] you care about you know i thought that's kind of cool you know yeah i think
[26:02] kind of cool you know yeah i think that's cool that you learned that from
[26:04] that's cool that you learned that from your students
[26:05] your students you learned something about your
[26:06] you learned something about your teaching from your student that's right
[26:08] teaching from your student that's right yeah yeah that's that's great
[26:10] yeah yeah that's that's great about the teaching is that teaching is
[26:11] about the teaching is that teaching is not like i know everything
[26:14] not like i know everything and then i'm better than you just almost
[26:16] and then i'm better than you just almost like we are equal
[26:18] like we are equal you know as a human but then i kind of
[26:21] you know as a human but then i kind of know a little bit more than
[26:22] know a little bit more than you know my students and the students
[26:24] you know my students and the students know more than something i don't know
[26:26] know more than something i don't know you know so
[26:27] you know so we basically work together and then you
[26:30] we basically work together and then you know be kind to each other you know
[26:31] know be kind to each other you know that's
[26:32] that's that's the key you know yeah so that's
[26:34] that's the key you know yeah so that's why yes
[26:35] why yes exactly what you say i learned from my
[26:37] exactly what you say i learned from my students and then these came up from my
[26:39] students and then these came up from my student
[26:40] student because that's what i say but you know
[26:41] because that's what i say but you know yeah so
[26:43] yeah so i think this is the perfect time ian has
[26:45] i think this is the perfect time ian has a question that he asks every time
[26:47] a question that he asks every time okay and since you're talking about
[26:49] okay and since you're talking about students
[26:51] students and uh learning from them um when people
[26:54] and uh learning from them um when people learn from you
[26:56] learn from you they they may not know what to ask right
[26:58] they they may not know what to ask right away and uh ian what comes
[27:00] away and uh ian what comes from you yeah so i mean here's
[27:03] from you yeah so i mean here's you know a thing that i've been asking
[27:05] you know a thing that i've been asking everybody which is
[27:06] everybody which is what's something that you know in your
[27:09] what's something that you know in your experience is both
[27:10] experience is both a student coming to berkeley and as a
[27:13] a student coming to berkeley and as a somebody who's
[27:14] somebody who's taught so many studentses yes what's the
[27:16] taught so many studentses yes what's the thing that students
[27:18] thing that students should begin to think about or what's
[27:20] should begin to think about or what's the question they should ask
[27:22] the question they should ask that they don't yet know to ask i say i
[27:24] that they don't yet know to ask i say i see
[27:25] see yeah okay i think everyone
[27:28] yeah okay i think everyone should have a question written more like
[27:31] should have a question written more like you know
[27:32] you know this is opportunity you can ask anything
[27:35] this is opportunity you can ask anything you can ask
[27:36] you can ask literally anything besides the guitar
[27:38] literally anything besides the guitar really because that's a private lesson
[27:40] really because that's a private lesson you can ask anything
[27:41] you can ask anything so sometimes you know beginning of
[27:44] so sometimes you know beginning of lesson
[27:45] lesson you know so how's everything good so um
[27:48] you know so how's everything good so um what have we been doing i ask you know
[27:50] what have we been doing i ask you know some time and then do you have any
[27:51] some time and then do you have any questions
[27:52] questions any requests for today anything and
[27:54] any requests for today anything and sometimes
[27:55] sometimes i don't know i don't think about it and
[27:58] i don't know i don't think about it and then i said
[27:59] then i said why not this is listen you know you're
[28:01] why not this is listen you know you're looking forward to right yeah
[28:03] looking forward to right yeah but then you know you can participate
[28:06] but then you know you can participate more before
[28:07] more before you know so it's hard it's hard because
[28:11] you know so it's hard it's hard because almost like even question you have to
[28:13] almost like even question you have to you know understand what can i ask or
[28:15] you know understand what can i ask or what to do
[28:16] what to do so yeah so uh it's a good question
[28:21] so yeah so uh it's a good question i have to ask them beforehand you know
[28:24] i have to ask them beforehand you know do you have anything
[28:25] do you have anything you know yeah so that's what i do
[28:28] you know yeah so that's what i do usually
[28:29] usually open up a little bit so that um see like
[28:32] open up a little bit so that um see like some people
[28:33] some people very shy then if i go like this
[28:36] very shy then if i go like this how was the week good okay do you have
[28:38] how was the week good okay do you have any question
[28:40] any question no okay so let me do this way see if i
[28:42] no okay so let me do this way see if i do that
[28:43] do that i'm just pushing there too much my
[28:44] i'm just pushing there too much my opinion already to me so i just want to
[28:46] opinion already to me so i just want to have
[28:47] have peop you know like room like if i talk
[28:51] peop you know like room like if i talk and i try to do this one when i do i
[28:53] and i try to do this one when i do i talk i mean right now it's like you know
[28:55] talk i mean right now it's like you know this i talk about
[28:56] this i talk about i talk and i wait almost the same amount
[28:59] i talk and i wait almost the same amount that's i think a good for music because
[29:00] that's i think a good for music because i play a little bit
[29:01] i play a little bit and somebody play a little bit so we
[29:03] and somebody play a little bit so we have call on response you know
[29:05] have call on response you know and that's what i try to do in a lesson
[29:09] and that's what i try to do in a lesson so if somebody talk i just not say
[29:11] so if somebody talk i just not say anything
[29:13] anything same thing if somebody play i just don't
[29:16] same thing if somebody play i just don't say anything i just wait
[29:20] like if somebody jamming like this i
[29:22] like if somebody jamming like this i just wait
[29:24] just wait and then sometimes students go what i
[29:27] and then sometimes students go what i didn't say anything you you're saying
[29:28] didn't say anything you you're saying i'm just listening
[29:30] i'm just listening oh i didn't know ah ah you know like
[29:33] oh i didn't know ah ah you know like that
[29:33] that and i say what what what you were doing
[29:36] and i say what what what you were doing i was
[29:37] i was i was just noodling around
[29:40] i was just noodling around well if it's a lesson don't you think
[29:43] well if it's a lesson don't you think you have to think something to ask or
[29:46] you have to think something to ask or something to do
[29:47] something to do oh yeah yeah yeah you know like that you
[29:49] oh yeah yeah yeah you know like that you know kind of funny funny conversation
[29:52] know kind of funny funny conversation so you're asking them basically to take
[29:54] so you're asking them basically to take some responsibility in the lesson
[29:56] some responsibility in the lesson yeah learn like yes in other words yeah
[29:59] yeah learn like yes in other words yeah i definitely i have a responsibility to
[30:01] i definitely i have a responsibility to teach
[30:01] teach everything what i know but they have to
[30:04] everything what i know but they have to really
[30:05] really ask me what they want to know so that
[30:08] ask me what they want to know so that student basically gets
[30:12] student basically gets things from me more than i know
[30:15] things from me more than i know sometimes maybe you know trigger to you
[30:18] sometimes maybe you know trigger to you know
[30:18] know okay think about something then then i i
[30:21] okay think about something then then i i think and it
[30:22] think and it that that's great about i think you know
[30:25] that that's great about i think you know one-on-one lesson even virtually i think
[30:29] one-on-one lesson even virtually i think because every week i
[30:30] because every week i i i um and this
[30:34] i i um and this you know this is the kind of secret like
[30:35] you know this is the kind of secret like you know my secret is that
[30:38] you know my secret is that um i have a notebook for less
[30:42] um i have a notebook for less so berkeley lesson after i teach one
[30:44] so berkeley lesson after i teach one week i always write
[30:46] week i always write what one week each what topic was really
[30:48] what one week each what topic was really good i have
[30:51] good i have so this way i can recycle that topic to
[30:54] so this way i can recycle that topic to a little bit more detail so that i have
[30:57] a little bit more detail so that i have as a i have i could have as a lesson
[31:00] as a i have i could have as a lesson like a good one
[31:01] like a good one you know something like that yeah and so
[31:04] you know something like that yeah and so that really helping me and then yeah
[31:07] that really helping me and then yeah like
[31:08] like exactly i have to i have to ask and
[31:11] exactly i have to i have to ask and participate
[31:12] participate and then i have to make them
[31:13] and then i have to make them responsibility just like i
[31:15] responsibility just like i i used to do you know always a goal
[31:18] i used to do you know always a goal yeah you know tomo that i i love all
[31:21] yeah you know tomo that i i love all these things that you're talking about
[31:23] these things that you're talking about and they're really um really deep
[31:27] and they're really um really deep things in the way we connect with our
[31:29] things in the way we connect with our students and i think um
[31:31] students and i think um you know as kim said like you know they
[31:33] you know as kim said like you know they have this responsibility
[31:35] have this responsibility too and i think some maybe and maybe
[31:38] too and i think some maybe and maybe it's
[31:39] it's i don't know you know i can't speak
[31:41] i don't know you know i can't speak about 20 years ago but you know i think
[31:43] about 20 years ago but you know i think sometimes there's a thing with students
[31:44] sometimes there's a thing with students come in and they think just
[31:46] come in and they think just being there is it right they
[31:49] being there is it right they they've done it you know that's that's
[31:52] they've done it you know that's that's and but
[31:53] and but when i exp i try to explain to students
[31:55] when i exp i try to explain to students that when you ask a question
[31:57] that when you ask a question well you know especially in a class
[31:59] well you know especially in a class probably there are five other people
[32:01] probably there are five other people that are the same question but they're
[32:02] that are the same question but they're too shy to ask so you're
[32:04] too shy to ask so you're probably helping out a bunch of other
[32:06] probably helping out a bunch of other people but you're really helping
[32:07] people but you're really helping yourself out
[32:08] yourself out yeah yes but you're also helping the
[32:10] yeah yes but you're also helping the teacher
[32:11] teacher and they don't realize that because you
[32:13] and they don't realize that because you know when a student
[32:15] know when a student starts to ask me a question then i then
[32:17] starts to ask me a question then i then i understand
[32:19] i understand yes deeper what they need help with
[32:22] yes deeper what they need help with and it opens a doorway so i always tell
[32:24] and it opens a doorway so i always tell them that like
[32:25] them that like you actually when you're asking that
[32:27] you actually when you're asking that question there are all these levels
[32:30] question there are all these levels that you're opening up for
[32:33] that you're opening up for yourself obviously like you're going to
[32:35] yourself obviously like you're going to come all this way
[32:36] come all this way like here or you coming all the way from
[32:38] like here or you coming all the way from japan or wherever people come from they
[32:40] japan or wherever people come from they come a long way
[32:41] come a long way to be here don't miss that opportunity
[32:43] to be here don't miss that opportunity like here you can sit with tomo or you
[32:45] like here you can sit with tomo or you could sit
[32:46] could sit in perlac or you could sit with ian
[32:47] in perlac or you could sit with ian steed or any of these people and ask
[32:50] steed or any of these people and ask a question and yeah and so
[32:53] a question and yeah and so many times people think oh yeah again
[32:55] many times people think oh yeah again though that will be a stupid question
[32:57] though that will be a stupid question or whatever but when they really you get
[32:59] or whatever but when they really you get them to realize like
[33:00] them to realize like actually yeah it is your responsibility
[33:02] actually yeah it is your responsibility for yourself and for
[33:04] for yourself and for all of us right it really helps all of
[33:06] all of us right it really helps all of us helps me do my job better
[33:09] us helps me do my job better that's right when that door is open
[33:10] that's right when that door is open right yeah i think it's so like to me
[33:13] right yeah i think it's so like to me private lesson especially it's not so
[33:15] private lesson especially it's not so much
[33:16] much how much knowledge i have or how much
[33:18] how much knowledge i have or how much knowledge i get have to give it to
[33:20] knowledge i get have to give it to each student almost like i have to work
[33:22] each student almost like i have to work with each one
[33:24] with each one deeper communication that's my job you
[33:26] deeper communication that's my job you know
[33:27] know then i i i ask each students to
[33:32] then i i i ask each students to you know get into that you know
[33:34] you know get into that you know direction
[33:35] direction and yes um
[33:38] and yes um like you know um like you said um
[33:41] like you know um like you said um sometimes students
[33:42] sometimes students really don't know how to ask a question
[33:45] really don't know how to ask a question and that's
[33:46] and that's totally fine so i have to tell them
[33:48] totally fine so i have to tell them sometime
[33:49] sometime just don't be hesitate like you know ask
[33:52] just don't be hesitate like you know ask anything
[33:52] anything because something sometimes
[33:55] because something sometimes you know question is wrong so that
[33:59] you know question is wrong so that you just don't get the answer for
[34:01] you just don't get the answer for example
[34:02] example typical question ask you get better at
[34:04] typical question ask you get better at asking yeah exactly
[34:06] asking yeah exactly until you kind of refine it yeah yeah
[34:08] until you kind of refine it yeah yeah yeah just like a play phrase
[34:09] yeah just like a play phrase you know you know you know good phrase
[34:11] you know you know you know good phrase but you know knows it too long you know
[34:14] but you know knows it too long you know something like that then gradually you
[34:15] something like that then gradually you understand so many cut you know
[34:17] understand so many cut you know duration their shorter is better our
[34:19] duration their shorter is better our rhythm same thing that you know question
[34:21] rhythm same thing that you know question most of you know common question so what
[34:23] most of you know common question so what are you thinking going
[34:24] are you thinking going playing so that's the wrong question to
[34:27] playing so that's the wrong question to me because
[34:28] me because are you asking when are practicing or am
[34:30] are you asking when are practicing or am i performing but two different things
[34:33] i performing but two different things so if i play i think about food i think
[34:37] so if i play i think about food i think about something else you know but then
[34:39] about something else you know but then when i practice i think
[34:40] when i practice i think every detail and other questions people
[34:43] every detail and other questions people say
[34:43] say so should i think degree
[34:47] so should i think degree or domicile you know notes
[34:50] or domicile you know notes like that already you answer everything
[34:53] like that already you answer everything you say you have to do everything
[34:57] like that so okay anything you think
[35:00] like that so okay anything you think good question you do it right unless
[35:03] good question you do it right unless you get hurt i don't think you get hurt
[35:06] you get hurt i don't think you get hurt you know what i mean if you do like this
[35:07] you know what i mean if you do like this like you know then you know i had oh
[35:09] like you know then you know i had oh don't do it but i think like you know
[35:11] don't do it but i think like you know thinking about the nose
[35:13] thinking about the nose you know right because that question
[35:16] you know right because that question they're almost asking you
[35:17] they're almost asking you to get out of doing something and you're
[35:19] to get out of doing something and you're telling that's our responsibility you're
[35:21] telling that's our responsibility you're responsible for
[35:22] responsible for all yeah yeah i think so just so for
[35:25] all yeah yeah i think so just so for example like a
[35:26] example like a good one like you know always you know
[35:27] good one like you know always you know fan ask so how was john mayer
[35:30] fan ask so how was john mayer right why do you need to ask how is john
[35:33] right why do you need to ask how is john mayer
[35:34] mayer you have to be better than him you know
[35:37] you have to be better than him you know you have to work hard on this
[35:38] you have to work hard on this but these people kind of expecting me to
[35:40] but these people kind of expecting me to say john was okay
[35:42] say john was okay he's just a regular guy you know he's
[35:44] he's just a regular guy you know he's lucky
[35:45] lucky you know something like that right i can
[35:48] you know something like that right i can be lucky you know
[35:49] be lucky you know yeah yeah you know it's interesting
[35:51] yeah yeah you know it's interesting because a lot of people know you because
[35:53] because a lot of people know you because they know that you taught john for
[35:56] they know that you taught john for a while yeah john mayer and they also
[35:59] a while yeah john mayer and they also know you
[36:00] know you as a player um what are some of the
[36:03] as a player um what are some of the things you think that
[36:05] things you think that you learned um as a student that you
[36:09] you learned um as a student that you that you always think about you know
[36:11] that you always think about you know that
[36:12] that you know what i'm saying like were there
[36:13] you know what i'm saying like were there things where you were a student and now
[36:15] things where you were a student and now that you're a teacher and a
[36:17] that you're a teacher and a player yeah these are the little moments
[36:20] player yeah these are the little moments of learning that you
[36:21] of learning that you took with you and then maybe passed on
[36:22] took with you and then maybe passed on to some of your students
[36:24] to some of your students yeah and you're watching them kind of
[36:26] yeah and you're watching them kind of take that forward
[36:27] take that forward yeah like you know each teacher teaches
[36:30] yeah like you know each teacher teaches different things you know like
[36:31] different things you know like um i studied with bruce arnold you know
[36:35] um i studied with bruce arnold you know when i'm student
[36:36] when i'm student he taught me more modal stuff and uh
[36:40] he taught me more modal stuff and uh but funny bruce arnold the reason is i i
[36:43] but funny bruce arnold the reason is i i wanted to study charlie barakas but
[36:44] wanted to study charlie barakas but i called charity banakas they said you
[36:46] i called charity banakas they said you have to wait two years i say i'm not
[36:48] have to wait two years i say i'm not sure i can stay
[36:50] sure i can stay america for two years because maybe i
[36:52] america for two years because maybe i run out of money you know so
[36:53] run out of money you know so and i start asking people say somebody
[36:55] and i start asking people say somebody say oh study with
[36:56] say oh study with you know uh bruce you know
[37:00] you know uh bruce you know and uh you know i study this is funny
[37:04] and uh you know i study this is funny okay first lesson play this one he play
[37:07] okay first lesson play this one he play chords play this does that
[37:09] chords play this does that then he play blues he go like i think
[37:12] then he play blues he go like i think you need more blues does he say
[37:15] you need more blues does he say i say i come here to study jazz and not
[37:17] i say i come here to study jazz and not yet he said
[37:18] yet he said why because you don't have a blues
[37:22] why because you don't have a blues and the first lesson he asked me you
[37:24] and the first lesson he asked me you know transcribe johnny winter
[37:27] know transcribe johnny winter okay i thought you're going to ask me
[37:29] okay i thought you're going to ask me miles davis no
[37:31] miles davis no then i have to go by the records i
[37:32] then i have to go by the records i transcribe every note i write down
[37:35] transcribe every note i write down memory rain or something like that and i
[37:37] memory rain or something like that and i play exactly the same notes the first
[37:38] play exactly the same notes the first week
[37:39] week okay one more oman brothers sly guitar
[37:42] okay one more oman brothers sly guitar you
[37:42] you write everything and i did that and
[37:44] write everything and i did that and after that he taught me
[37:46] after that he taught me charlie baraka says oh yeah training all
[37:48] charlie baraka says oh yeah training all that stuff you know so so
[37:50] that stuff you know so so that lesson taught me well sometimes i
[37:52] that lesson taught me well sometimes i have to trust
[37:53] have to trust teacher about the judgment
[37:56] teacher about the judgment you know and the same thing i started
[37:58] you know and the same thing i started with mark french
[38:00] with mark french and he's a funny guy and uh you know i
[38:03] and he's a funny guy and uh you know i like
[38:03] like funky stuff like that and i didn't read
[38:05] funky stuff like that and i didn't read the music well so he said
[38:07] the music well so he said tomo read this one method book
[38:11] tomo read this one method book aha you know he just said something like
[38:13] aha you know he just said something like this read this one
[38:15] this read this one well try this one so he kind of
[38:18] well try this one so he kind of encouraged me to read me
[38:19] encouraged me to read me read written music now improvisation
[38:22] read written music now improvisation so he really taught me written music how
[38:25] so he really taught me written music how to play
[38:26] to play really clean and actually i taught that
[38:28] really clean and actually i taught that to john mayer
[38:30] to john mayer to make clean up his technique yeah so
[38:33] to make clean up his technique yeah so basically i
[38:34] basically i asked john to play method book for
[38:37] asked john to play method book for you know some pages play really clean
[38:39] you know some pages play really clean technique that's
[38:41] technique that's we because that way we don't improvise
[38:43] we because that way we don't improvise anything everything written
[38:45] anything everything written so if you play something else it's wrong
[38:48] so if you play something else it's wrong and everything else is uh accuracy in
[38:51] and everything else is uh accuracy in the articulation
[38:53] the articulation muting technique so doubts i taught him
[38:56] muting technique so doubts i taught him play b if you play open g you have to
[38:59] play b if you play open g you have to touch
[39:00] touch b to mute it yeah
[39:03] b to mute it yeah you don't have these things you know if
[39:05] you don't have these things you know if you have a lot of reverb and a
[39:06] you have a lot of reverb and a distortion
[39:07] distortion or overdrive play steve levon you know
[39:09] or overdrive play steve levon you know so i taught him
[39:11] so i taught him clean up technique that's the first
[39:13] clean up technique that's the first thing i learned from other teachers
[39:16] thing i learned from other teachers and blues you have to know you can't
[39:19] and blues you have to know you can't just play be
[39:20] just play be you know stevie rebel you have to
[39:21] you know stevie rebel you have to understand
[39:23] understand history of so like i thought bb king i
[39:26] history of so like i thought bb king i taught charlie christian so i make john
[39:29] taught charlie christian so i make john mayer to play
[39:30] mayer to play rose room not for not he hated
[39:34] rose room not for not he hated but i made him to do it so that that's
[39:37] but i made him to do it so that that's we cleaned up a
[39:38] we cleaned up a problem i bet he didn't hate it after he
[39:40] problem i bet he didn't hate it after he learned it i find it
[39:41] learned it i find it i think so yeah yeah i think so yeah he
[39:43] i think so yeah yeah i think so yeah he still hated it
[39:44] still hated it whoa okay maybe yeah
[39:48] whoa okay maybe yeah all right yeah i what are some of the
[39:52] all right yeah i what are some of the things that your students come back to
[39:54] things that your students come back to you and say
[39:55] you and say was valuable that they learned from you
[39:58] was valuable that they learned from you and
[39:58] and are you surprised by those things or do
[40:01] are you surprised by those things or do you think yeah
[40:02] you think yeah i knew you would think that was valuable
[40:04] i knew you would think that was valuable later on yeah like you know little
[40:06] later on yeah like you know little things
[40:06] things little things like always people say i
[40:08] little things like always people say i didn't know how important but to try
[40:10] didn't know how important but to try it that's always here try it
[40:14] it that's always here try it you try as a rhythm guitar something
[40:17] you try as a rhythm guitar something about the picky about the bending skill
[40:19] about the picky about the bending skill like that in little things you know then
[40:21] like that in little things you know then some people become professional
[40:24] some people become professional and then some situation they're very
[40:27] and then some situation they're very useful like casino some
[40:28] useful like casino some people become like a session player in
[40:30] people become like a session player in the country you know try as well
[40:32] the country you know try as well everywhere
[40:33] everywhere bending techniques everywhere if you
[40:34] bending techniques everywhere if you become a teacher you know you can teach
[40:37] become a teacher you know you can teach something very simple then you can teach
[40:39] something very simple then you can teach much more deeper you know something like
[40:40] much more deeper you know something like that yeah
[40:43] that yeah yeah so i think that's interesting
[40:44] yeah so i think that's interesting because fundamentals i mean
[40:46] because fundamentals i mean and all the conversations we've had with
[40:48] and all the conversations we've had with everyone it always comes back to these
[40:50] everyone it always comes back to these fundamentals
[40:51] fundamentals yeah you know what i mean like yes
[40:52] yeah you know what i mean like yes triads are are
[40:55] triads are are are part of every style of music and
[40:58] are part of every style of music and it for you know when you start to
[41:00] it for you know when you start to understand advanced harmony it's just
[41:01] understand advanced harmony it's just stacking up triads right that's right
[41:04] stacking up triads right that's right yeah
[41:05] yeah so yeah it's just such a and i know
[41:08] so yeah it's just such a and i know everyone here you know we are always
[41:10] everyone here you know we are always going back to those things
[41:11] going back to those things practicing i always say you can't you
[41:14] practicing i always say you can't you can't know them
[41:15] can't know them well enough that's right i still like
[41:18] well enough that's right i still like you know simple stuff to teach you know
[41:20] you know simple stuff to teach you know yeah
[41:21] yeah yep so that's i think i i think
[41:25] yep so that's i think i i think i think you know simplicity is really
[41:28] i think you know simplicity is really you know part of a sophistication you
[41:30] you know part of a sophistication you know so so anything people want to do
[41:32] know so so anything people want to do like you know
[41:33] like you know high technical stuff but still i i like
[41:36] high technical stuff but still i i like to kind of
[41:37] to kind of bring in you know foundation like that
[41:40] bring in you know foundation like that you know so
[41:40] you know so um that's what i like to teach yeah even
[41:44] um that's what i like to teach yeah even like
[41:44] like how to use the amplifier i always say a
[41:47] how to use the amplifier i always say a little bit brighter
[41:48] little bit brighter a little less bass no reverb so you can
[41:50] a little less bass no reverb so you can hear
[41:51] hear everything and that's the actually a lot
[41:53] everything and that's the actually a lot of people surprised
[41:55] of people surprised um wonder why they actually got me you
[41:58] um wonder why they actually got me you did my
[41:59] did my level seven jury
[42:02] level seven jury my level seven jury was with you and
[42:04] my level seven jury was with you and john buboyen and i still have those
[42:06] john buboyen and i still have those notes actually
[42:07] notes actually when i got this job julia found him okay
[42:09] when i got this job julia found him okay what did i say
[42:10] what did i say and you know it was funny i was working
[42:13] and you know it was funny i was working so hard on like
[42:14] so hard on like you know harmonic vocabulary and trying
[42:17] you know harmonic vocabulary and trying to play
[42:18] to play like upper structure and trying to be
[42:20] like upper structure and trying to be really clever in my playing
[42:22] really clever in my playing and you were like yeah that's good you
[42:25] and you were like yeah that's good you need to practice more with an amplifier
[42:28] need to practice more with an amplifier did i say that yeah and i and it was
[42:30] did i say that yeah and i and it was just like oh my god
[42:33] just like oh my god i'm worrying about all this big stuff
[42:35] i'm worrying about all this big stuff and i'm like i have this other
[42:36] and i'm like i have this other basic piece of playing the electric
[42:38] basic piece of playing the electric guitar just like
[42:40] guitar just like really weak and you were just like yeah
[42:42] really weak and you were just like yeah you need it's like
[42:43] you need it's like and you like sat with me actually and
[42:45] and you like sat with me actually and gave me a mini lesson
[42:47] gave me a mini lesson after that jury and you were like think
[42:49] after that jury and you were like think about this
[42:50] about this don't roll off any of your tone
[42:54] don't roll off any of your tone like play no reverb into the amplifier
[42:58] like play no reverb into the amplifier don't play with a bunch of bass don't
[43:00] don't play with a bunch of bass don't roll off your tone
[43:01] roll off your tone like be as naked as possible and get the
[43:04] like be as naked as possible and get the best tone
[43:04] best tone and it was like yeah man you just like
[43:08] and it was like yeah man you just like you just like speared me right there
[43:10] you just like speared me right there about the tone yeah it was great yeah
[43:12] about the tone yeah it was great yeah i mean especially like you know tests
[43:14] i mean especially like you know tests like that or professionals i try not to
[43:16] like that or professionals i try not to teach because i love to teach
[43:18] teach because i love to teach i used to i used to try to teach and
[43:20] i used to i used to try to teach and somebody said you told me you shouldn't
[43:21] somebody said you told me you shouldn't teach you know okay
[43:22] teach you know okay i shouldn't do it okay sorry yeah then
[43:24] i shouldn't do it okay sorry yeah then after that i don't say anything but
[43:26] after that i don't say anything but sometimes
[43:27] sometimes i have to say just one thing so i always
[43:30] i have to say just one thing so i always say like this after
[43:31] say like this after after i you know proficiency i can tell
[43:33] after i you know proficiency i can tell the person doesn't have a
[43:35] the person doesn't have a doesn't use the amplifier the only i ask
[43:38] doesn't use the amplifier the only i ask is one thing
[43:38] is one thing so do you practice m no and then always
[43:42] so do you practice m no and then always people say how do you know
[43:44] people say how do you know because that sounds like it you know
[43:48] because that sounds like it you know so that's that's the only thing i ask
[43:50] so that's that's the only thing i ask because amp is to me
[43:52] because amp is to me kind of a part of electric guitar really
[43:55] kind of a part of electric guitar really part of it important you know i mean
[43:57] part of it important you know i mean i mean okay this one you're gonna laugh
[44:00] i mean okay this one you're gonna laugh now um
[44:02] now um i've been i've been uh see i do a lot of
[44:05] i've been i've been uh see i do a lot of you know kind of hard
[44:06] you know kind of hard project myself right this is called
[44:08] project myself right this is called stratcaster in a pickup right
[44:10] stratcaster in a pickup right so now this is called front pickup
[44:11] so now this is called front pickup middle pickup rear pickup
[44:13] middle pickup rear pickup and most people use the front because
[44:14] and most people use the front because nice and warm middle not popular because
[44:17] nice and warm middle not popular because kind of bright you know
[44:18] kind of bright you know so since august i put the tape here so i
[44:21] so since august i put the tape here so i can
[44:22] can go to the front i only use a middle
[44:24] go to the front i only use a middle pickup so very difficult to play
[44:26] pickup so very difficult to play or turn all the way so i practice about
[44:29] or turn all the way so i practice about two months
[44:30] two months and then i came up with this
[44:37] and then i came up with this for the folks at home listening he's
[44:40] for the folks at home listening he's showing us a stratocaster
[44:42] showing us a stratocaster an actual stratocaster that only has a
[44:46] an actual stratocaster that only has a middle pickup
[44:48] middle pickup yeah you laugh right yeah yeah
[44:50] yeah you laugh right yeah yeah see this is my philosophy limitation
[44:54] see this is my philosophy limitation is a possibility and this guitar
[44:57] is a possibility and this guitar i play well and i'm very picky about the
[45:00] i play well and i'm very picky about the volume control on the tone control now i
[45:02] volume control on the tone control now i put the tape on
[45:04] put the tape on wow it's like the most extreme example
[45:07] wow it's like the most extreme example of self-limitation
[45:09] of self-limitation honestly um i love limitations yeah
[45:11] honestly um i love limitations yeah because you watch
[45:12] because you watch see i do see wow there's a whole
[45:15] see i do see wow there's a whole collection of them
[45:17] collection of them yeah yeah yeah but
[45:20] yeah yeah yeah but yeah then uh
[45:24] that's incredible because you know we've
[45:25] that's incredible because you know we've had other conversations with people
[45:27] had other conversations with people about
[45:28] about self-limitation and practice right like
[45:31] self-limitation and practice right like in one episode we talk about playing one
[45:33] in one episode we talk about playing one note for six
[45:34] note for six hours now we're talking about like
[45:37] hours now we're talking about like engineering that right into your
[45:39] engineering that right into your instrument
[45:40] instrument that's cool so this way i really focus
[45:44] that's cool so this way i really focus on my rhythm guitar because so
[45:46] on my rhythm guitar because so bright very bright attack is
[45:49] bright very bright attack is so also this is actually you know i
[45:52] so also this is actually you know i noticed this
[45:53] noticed this sounds better because no magnet no
[45:56] sounds better because no magnet no magnet
[45:56] magnet field around this you know so a little
[45:58] field around this you know so a little bit more sustained
[46:00] bit more sustained and then less wiring and a little bit
[46:02] and then less wiring and a little bit better a little bit more pure
[46:05] better a little bit more pure that's all you got this is all you can
[46:07] that's all you got this is all you can get
[46:09] get well that's you know tomo that's
[46:11] well that's you know tomo that's interesting because i think
[46:12] interesting because i think i mean i totally agree with you on all
[46:15] i mean i totally agree with you on all of those things and
[46:16] of those things and yeah it really makes you listen
[46:20] yeah it really makes you listen to yourself and i think there's a point
[46:22] to yourself and i think there's a point where students
[46:23] where students yeah need to start to you know yeah like
[46:26] yeah need to start to you know yeah like like ian was saying like he was so
[46:27] like ian was saying like he was so caught up in all these other things
[46:29] caught up in all these other things yeah really listening to the sound that
[46:31] yeah really listening to the sound that he made
[46:33] he made and it is another thing of being aware
[46:34] and it is another thing of being aware of all those levels like are you what
[46:36] of all those levels like are you what are you thinking about
[46:38] are you thinking about right no i'm just nothing when i'm
[46:40] right no i'm just nothing when i'm playing yeah
[46:41] playing yeah and and they those are all those
[46:44] and and they those are all those layers of a development and
[46:47] layers of a development and as you become a better player but you
[46:50] as you become a better player but you know
[46:51] know you as a teacher directing students that
[46:54] you as a teacher directing students that way to be honest
[46:55] way to be honest okay yeah we've got these other yeah of
[46:57] okay yeah we've got these other yeah of course you have to play in time of
[46:58] course you have to play in time of course you have to play in tune of
[46:59] course you have to play in tune of course you have to know where that note
[47:00] course you have to know where that note is yeah
[47:01] is yeah but you also have to listen to the sound
[47:03] but you also have to listen to the sound and that makes your technique better
[47:05] and that makes your technique better right when you start
[47:06] right when you start listening you hear oh ugh and you hear
[47:10] listening you hear oh ugh and you hear all the scrapes and the buzzes and
[47:12] all the scrapes and the buzzes and you know i i think especially nowadays
[47:15] you know i i think especially nowadays like
[47:15] like you know more equipment available and
[47:19] you know more equipment available and everything cheaper so like and so amp
[47:22] everything cheaper so like and so amp built in a
[47:22] built in a you know reverb river pedals many effect
[47:26] you know reverb river pedals many effect guitar has so many pickups right but
[47:28] guitar has so many pickups right but more and more
[47:29] more and more lately myself really into really play
[47:32] lately myself really into really play acoustic guitar
[47:33] acoustic guitar just because acoustic guitar it's
[47:35] just because acoustic guitar it's difficult it's no trick
[47:37] difficult it's no trick no trick
[47:41] you know right now i have my mental hero
[47:45] you know right now i have my mental hero is tommy emmanuel because he
[47:48] is tommy emmanuel because he really makes guitar sing by himself
[47:52] really makes guitar sing by himself and he really connects with the audience
[47:54] and he really connects with the audience and that's my
[47:55] and that's my mental hero now i i want to play like
[47:58] mental hero now i i want to play like him
[47:59] him just a guitar that's funny you say that
[48:02] just a guitar that's funny you say that because i just was about to ask you
[48:05] because i just was about to ask you we've talked you and i have talked
[48:07] we've talked you and i have talked lately about using like the solo guitar
[48:10] lately about using like the solo guitar you know like you're getting into being
[48:12] you know like you're getting into being a soloist and i was just about to ask
[48:14] a soloist and i was just about to ask you how these things apply
[48:17] you how these things apply um all this philosophy and practice
[48:19] um all this philosophy and practice applies to like taking what you do
[48:22] applies to like taking what you do and turning it into a solo art and it
[48:25] and turning it into a solo art and it sounds like you're
[48:26] sounds like you're you're listening pretty deeply to tommy
[48:29] you're listening pretty deeply to tommy yeah emmanuel who is
[48:30] yeah emmanuel who is is known for for being a soloist yeah
[48:33] is known for for being a soloist yeah but also
[48:34] but also i kind of i mean myself i kind of
[48:36] i kind of i mean myself i kind of researched about his
[48:37] researched about his his he in his past you know so i could
[48:40] his he in his past you know so i could tell he's like more like i mean
[48:42] tell he's like more like i mean i guess him just this is kind of briefly
[48:44] i guess him just this is kind of briefly like kind of my guessing
[48:45] like kind of my guessing he probably became like a great studio
[48:48] he probably became like a great studio guy
[48:48] guy or session guy who can play anything
[48:52] or session guy who can play anything then he wants his own voice to he start
[48:54] then he wants his own voice to he start getting rid of
[48:55] getting rid of situations so that he focus on
[48:59] situations so that he focus on guitar see some people think solo guitar
[49:01] guitar see some people think solo guitar oh yeah because you you can't have a
[49:03] oh yeah because you you can't have a band
[49:03] band that's why you play solo you know no no
[49:05] that's why you play solo you know no no no no i can have a band but just you
[49:07] no no i can have a band but just you know
[49:07] know sort of guitar is hard because you have
[49:09] sort of guitar is hard because you have to do everything and limitation to me is
[49:12] to do everything and limitation to me is kind of a
[49:13] kind of a i have only one one life you know so i
[49:15] i have only one one life you know so i cannot do everything so
[49:17] cannot do everything so i just kind of think i think tommy
[49:20] i just kind of think i think tommy figured out
[49:21] figured out not to do the electric not to do the
[49:23] not to do the electric not to do the band
[49:24] band and he figured out that's that's the way
[49:27] and he figured out that's that's the way he wants to play
[49:29] he wants to play solar guitar right i think that's
[49:31] solar guitar right i think that's beautiful you know yeah
[49:33] beautiful you know yeah that's great yeah so yeah that's why
[49:36] that's great yeah so yeah that's why um i have um lately actually
[49:42] this is kind of funny thing too as you
[49:44] this is kind of funny thing too as you see
[49:45] see i have a lot of guitars because i like a
[49:47] i have a lot of guitars because i like a lot of guitars and i like a lot of
[49:49] lot of guitars and i like a lot of different tone i want to learn
[49:50] different tone i want to learn everything but mostly i practice this
[49:52] everything but mostly i practice this guitar
[49:53] guitar okay so wait so for people who are
[49:54] okay so wait so for people who are listening how many guitars do you have
[49:56] listening how many guitars do you have behind you how many are
[49:58] behind you how many are it looks like 20. um i actually i
[50:01] it looks like 20. um i actually i counted here right i have a
[50:03] counted here right i have a 28 guitars in this room yeah there's
[50:05] 28 guitars in this room yeah there's more you moved your chair and i didn't
[50:10] realize
[50:12] realize oh wow there's a lot of guitars in there
[50:14] oh wow there's a lot of guitars in there yeah so this one
[50:15] yeah so this one my wife bet you know my wife built in
[50:18] my wife bet you know my wife built in this um
[50:19] this um also built in cabinet oh this is what
[50:23] also built in cabinet oh this is what yeah because i teach teach all the time
[50:25] yeah because i teach teach all the time so i have to have a
[50:26] so i have to have a different guitar to grab it so i have a
[50:29] different guitar to grab it so i have a seven guitar here
[50:30] seven guitar here okay and then i have uh uh
[50:33] okay and then i have uh uh 18 guitars here wow yeah
[50:37] 18 guitars here wow yeah yeah but the funny part is i have like
[50:38] yeah but the funny part is i have like nike i saw 20 28 guitars but i played
[50:41] nike i saw 20 28 guitars but i played this
[50:41] this most of the time and that's an acoustic
[50:43] most of the time and that's an acoustic what what kind of guitar is that this is
[50:45] what what kind of guitar is that this is orange wood
[50:46] orange wood oh cool yeah it's really cool yeah and
[50:48] oh cool yeah it's really cool yeah and then i can
[50:49] then i can this is funny right this this is the
[50:51] this is funny right this this is the guitar behind
[50:53] guitar behind is um i work with a company
[50:57] is um i work with a company i'm become ambassador like i almost tell
[50:59] i'm become ambassador like i almost tell company what to make
[51:01] company what to make so this is new guitar and next year
[51:03] so this is new guitar and next year you're gonna surprise
[51:06] you're gonna surprise you know surprised
[51:08] you know surprised [Laughter]
[51:11] [Laughter] yeah that's um that's another job i'm
[51:14] yeah that's um that's another job i'm doing
[51:14] doing kind of fun wow that sounds great yeah
[51:16] kind of fun wow that sounds great yeah that sounds great so anyway acoustic
[51:18] that sounds great so anyway acoustic guitar is really uh
[51:19] guitar is really uh my passion now yeah fantastic cool
[51:23] my passion now yeah fantastic cool cheryl what else is coming up for you as
[51:25] cheryl what else is coming up for you as we kind of come through this pot of
[51:27] we kind of come through this pot of coffee
[51:28] coffee what do you think yeah no i'm i mean
[51:30] what do you think yeah no i'm i mean tomo it was so
[51:31] tomo it was so great for you to share oh thanks so much
[51:34] great for you to share oh thanks so much for asking a lot
[51:35] for asking a lot you know yeah i mean yeah there are so
[51:38] you know yeah i mean yeah there are so many inspiring
[51:39] many inspiring um thoughts about connecting with
[51:41] um thoughts about connecting with students
[51:42] students yeah there's all communication that's
[51:44] yeah there's all communication that's that's a that's the thing you know
[51:46] that's a that's the thing you know guitar
[51:46] guitar i think to me guitar really brings kind
[51:49] i think to me guitar really brings kind of people
[51:49] of people together and make us very pure
[51:52] together and make us very pure and um you know exchange all the
[51:54] and um you know exchange all the opinions ideas and uh
[51:57] opinions ideas and uh it's really fun you know yeah that's all
[51:59] it's really fun you know yeah that's all all positive
[52:02] all positive i've actually got one question so yeah
[52:04] i've actually got one question so yeah yeah no
[52:05] yeah no i was hoping you would i was about to
[52:08] i was hoping you would i was about to ask
[52:08] ask you you have the look on your face ian
[52:10] you you have the look on your face ian has a look on his face okay
[52:11] has a look on his face okay he has a question i really need to work
[52:13] he has a question i really need to work on a poker face don't i
[52:15] on a poker face don't i i like it i like knowing i feel like
[52:17] i like it i like knowing i feel like he's got something to say
[52:19] he's got something to say man tomo
[52:22] man tomo like you are uh like for anybody
[52:25] like you are uh like for anybody listening
[52:26] listening if you've ever been on social media you
[52:28] if you've ever been on social media you already know who tomo is
[52:30] already know who tomo is right so you've got such a strong
[52:34] right so you've got such a strong uh base on like digital platforms
[52:38] uh base on like digital platforms and i'm curious about like how you know
[52:41] and i'm curious about like how you know now that we're in this time you know
[52:44] now that we're in this time you know hopefully as temporary as it is
[52:46] hopefully as temporary as it is where everything's remote um i'm just
[52:49] where everything's remote um i'm just curious about like music making
[52:51] curious about like music making in this this sort of time and like
[52:54] in this this sort of time and like there's a lot of folks who are just like
[52:56] there's a lot of folks who are just like you know
[52:57] you know kind of defeatist about all of it and
[52:59] kind of defeatist about all of it and hearing your
[53:00] hearing your like just really strong work ethic
[53:04] like just really strong work ethic around it and just like your passion for
[53:05] around it and just like your passion for it
[53:06] it and the fact that you don't like you're
[53:07] and the fact that you don't like you're talking about playing solo guitar you
[53:09] talking about playing solo guitar you don't necessarily need anybody else
[53:11] don't necessarily need anybody else to come in and play in a band with you
[53:13] to come in and play in a band with you for you to be making music and sharing
[53:15] for you to be making music and sharing it online
[53:16] it online and i i guess i'm just curious if you
[53:18] and i i guess i'm just curious if you have anything to say for
[53:20] have anything to say for you know so many of these guitarists and
[53:22] you know so many of these guitarists and stuff yeah
[53:23] stuff yeah yeah now we're at home
[53:26] yeah now we're at home a lot of the time by ourselves you know
[53:28] a lot of the time by ourselves you know what i mean and how it's not stopping
[53:30] what i mean and how it's not stopping you from making music
[53:32] you from making music right right so like i i so idea is this
[53:35] right right so like i i so idea is this like you know i
[53:36] like you know i you know i figured out kind of quickly
[53:38] you know i figured out kind of quickly but um
[53:39] but um about the internet like remember
[53:42] about the internet like remember when we have a first you know we can
[53:44] when we have a first you know we can have a home page
[53:46] have a home page you know own home page that was exciting
[53:49] you know own home page that was exciting make our own home page and then
[53:52] make our own home page and then you know i post some story or you know
[53:55] you know i post some story or you know not like before the instagram just
[53:56] not like before the instagram just making
[53:57] making home page so every time you have to add
[53:59] home page so every time you have to add something
[54:00] something then you send out the email
[54:04] then you send out the email but i didn't realize that's not really
[54:05] but i didn't realize that's not really connecting everybody only
[54:08] connecting everybody only whoever you know nowadays
[54:11] whoever you know nowadays if you have a instagram youtube or
[54:13] if you have a instagram youtube or social media you can connect
[54:14] social media you can connect everybody but somebody did this
[54:18] everybody but somebody did this funky program there nobody knows what's
[54:20] funky program there nobody knows what's going on
[54:21] going on that if you just post it doesn't do
[54:23] that if you just post it doesn't do anything
[54:24] anything literally but if you do something
[54:28] literally but if you do something special continuously
[54:31] special continuously work hard to do that then you become one
[54:34] work hard to do that then you become one of
[54:35] of popular and then it's all free you don't
[54:39] popular and then it's all free you don't have to pay anybody
[54:41] have to pay anybody you can do that but nobody know what to
[54:44] you can do that but nobody know what to do that's kind of cool part nobody knows
[54:46] do that's kind of cool part nobody knows what to do
[54:47] what to do but there's a possibility then that's
[54:50] but there's a possibility then that's i'm believing to doing it so
[54:52] i'm believing to doing it so i have to tell you first like even
[54:54] i have to tell you first like even instagram
[54:55] instagram you know you you can get the numbers but
[54:58] you know you you can get the numbers but difficult to get
[54:59] difficult to get steady you know so i have to figure out
[55:01] steady you know so i have to figure out what to do
[55:02] what to do then i i have my own kind of you know
[55:04] then i i have my own kind of you know rhythm to do it
[55:06] rhythm to do it and then youtube was really hard because
[55:09] and then youtube was really hard because if i play something really good band
[55:13] if i play something really good band you know build a 40 or you know 400 like
[55:17] you know build a 40 or you know 400 like that
[55:17] that nothing really go over the saga you know
[55:20] nothing really go over the saga you know and i didn't know how to do it
[55:22] and i didn't know how to do it then gradually i figured out a little
[55:25] then gradually i figured out a little bit more
[55:26] bit more like entertainment purpose you know so
[55:29] like entertainment purpose you know so um
[55:30] um then gradually i created better one
[55:33] then gradually i created better one then end of last year i got a hundred
[55:36] then end of last year i got a hundred thousand
[55:38] thousand and that was like a really important
[55:40] and that was like a really important hundred thousand
[55:41] hundred thousand then youtube already kind of recognizing
[55:44] then youtube already kind of recognizing the numbers and
[55:46] the numbers and activity then that point goes faster
[55:50] activity then that point goes faster so now i have 259 000.
[55:54] so now i have 259 000. every day i have a thousand but if i
[55:57] every day i have a thousand but if i don't do a good job
[55:58] don't do a good job go down see that's what i love about it
[56:01] go down see that's what i love about it i have to do a good job
[56:02] i have to do a good job every time that's hard you know yeah
[56:05] every time that's hard you know yeah yeah but i think people really like
[56:07] yeah but i think people really like follow you and like you on
[56:08] follow you and like you on social media and all that also just
[56:10] social media and all that also just because like your passion for the music
[56:13] because like your passion for the music and your sort of need to do it yeah
[56:16] and your sort of need to do it yeah continues
[56:17] continues even if it's just you at home right
[56:19] even if it's just you at home right right right but also i like i like to
[56:21] right right but also i like i like to kind of
[56:21] kind of you know encourage people to do have fun
[56:25] you know encourage people to do have fun with the guitar and people you know in
[56:27] with the guitar and people you know in general so
[56:28] general so yeah definitely social media is i think
[56:31] yeah definitely social media is i think great to you know connect with
[56:32] great to you know connect with people then share that something have
[56:35] people then share that something have fun even like
[56:36] fun even like did you know how to play this
[56:43] see even like that okay so for the
[56:45] see even like that okay so for the people at home
[56:47] people at home uh tomo was playing uh a makeshift
[56:49] uh tomo was playing uh a makeshift guitar out of what appears to be a pie
[56:52] guitar out of what appears to be a pie crust
[56:53] crust uh cardboard box but this is a 2019
[56:56] uh cardboard box but this is a 2019 model
[56:59] model [Laughter]
[57:03] [Laughter] i like this one because if you put the p
[57:13] i like this one because if you put the p you can play you know scale around the
[57:16] you can play you know scale around the letters
[57:17] letters so that's why i thought this is kind of
[57:18] so that's why i thought this is kind of fun to play okay
[57:20] fun to play okay so you've actually really thought that
[57:21] so you've actually really thought that through and i think that's a good lesson
[57:23] through and i think that's a good lesson to everyone like
[57:24] to everyone like through
[57:28] i see like my my hobbies always make
[57:31] i see like my my hobbies always make funny jokes for my family
[57:33] funny jokes for my family my if my family is always laughing
[57:35] my if my family is always laughing that's the best thing i ever have you
[57:36] that's the best thing i ever have you know
[57:37] know so like if i make a pasta i always put
[57:40] so like if i make a pasta i always put the pasta
[57:41] the pasta you know like this then i go like see
[57:45] you know like this then i go like see i do like this and people you know ah
[57:47] i do like this and people you know ah without me right and then
[57:48] without me right and then last year after thanksgiving and then we
[57:52] last year after thanksgiving and then we were just ready to go to you know
[57:54] were just ready to go to you know my other family's house right then i
[57:56] my other family's house right then i started doing this one
[57:57] started doing this one and i was kind of goof around like this
[57:59] and i was kind of goof around like this and samantha was a
[58:01] and samantha was a making video for funny then i go like
[58:04] making video for funny then i go like wait a minute so like this
[58:08] wait a minute so like this this one right here minor third
[58:13] right
[58:16] you can be bass player today cheryl is
[58:19] you can be bass player today cheryl is delighted
[58:20] delighted i i'm watching carol's delighted face
[58:23] i i'm watching carol's delighted face over there yeah
[58:24] over there yeah but it's very difficult to play auto the
[58:26] but it's very difficult to play auto the phrase this you know
[58:30] all right rose room here we go
[58:33] all right rose room here we go yeah see i love simplicity one string
[58:37] yeah see i love simplicity one string there you go it's the pi crossed unitar
[58:41] there you go it's the pi crossed unitar united exactly i love that um cheryl any
[58:45] united exactly i love that um cheryl any final
[58:45] final thoughts before we finish this pot of
[58:47] thoughts before we finish this pot of coffee with tomo
[58:48] coffee with tomo no but now i have i'm gonna have a
[58:50] no but now i have i'm gonna have a hankering now for some pillsbury
[58:52] hankering now for some pillsbury doughboy
[58:53] doughboy products
[58:56] and funny part my wife bought two of
[58:59] and funny part my wife bought two of them just in case this year
[59:02] them just in case this year just in case you want me yeah yeah yeah
[59:05] just in case you want me yeah yeah yeah exactly so i have to create a new song
[59:07] exactly so i have to create a new song for you know
[59:07] for you know something i do
[59:13] that's fantastic that's great ian what
[59:15] that's fantastic that's great ian what about you
[59:18] about you no that was great it's a great
[59:19] no that was great it's a great conversation but thanks so much for
[59:21] conversation but thanks so much for asking a lot of
[59:22] asking a lot of fun questions yeah do you have anything
[59:24] fun questions yeah do you have anything uh
[59:25] uh last word you want to say to everybody
[59:27] last word you want to say to everybody before we finish this pot up
[59:30] before we finish this pot up uh yeah well just like that you know
[59:34] uh yeah well just like that you know we don't know till we do it right
[59:36] we don't know till we do it right because
[59:37] because people kind of sometimes believing oh
[59:39] people kind of sometimes believing oh thomas you know you know
[59:41] thomas you know you know he's a professor berkeley he did great
[59:43] he's a professor berkeley he did great you know everything everything great
[59:45] you know everything everything great i gave up my guitar two years nobody
[59:48] i gave up my guitar two years nobody know because there's no chance to talk
[59:50] know because there's no chance to talk about
[59:51] about you know because when i talk about
[59:52] you know because when i talk about usually i talk about kind of good things
[59:54] usually i talk about kind of good things and that's the kind of you know kind of
[59:56] and that's the kind of you know kind of dark moment in my life but
[59:58] dark moment in my life but now i can talk about that because that
[01:00:01] now i can talk about that because that was okay because
[01:00:02] was okay because i learned something else i learned to be
[01:00:05] i learned something else i learned to be patient and then i did something
[01:00:08] patient and then i did something i don't like and so that was kind of a
[01:00:11] i don't like and so that was kind of a good
[01:00:12] good um thing to tell people
[01:00:15] um thing to tell people some people say i don't like too bad but
[01:00:17] some people say i don't like too bad but you have to do it
[01:00:20] you have to do it you know because because i did so
[01:00:23] you know because because i did so sometimes i said
[01:00:23] sometimes i said student i don't like this one well you
[01:00:26] student i don't like this one well you know
[01:00:26] know i i did something i didn't like
[01:00:30] i i did something i didn't like why not okay that's right
[01:00:34] why not okay that's right that's great so anyway so like this
[01:00:36] that's great so anyway so like this conversation always great because then
[01:00:37] conversation always great because then bring
[01:00:38] bring somebody bring up a little question that
[01:00:40] somebody bring up a little question that leading to somewhere
[01:00:42] leading to somewhere we never been before you know so that
[01:00:44] we never been before you know so that was great
[01:00:45] was great thank you so much also ian that question
[01:00:47] thank you so much also ian that question was great i didn't
[01:00:48] was great i didn't remember i told you about the amp and
[01:00:51] remember i told you about the amp and you know electric guitar you know
[01:00:52] you know electric guitar you know yeah practice thing yeah that's
[01:00:55] yeah practice thing yeah that's fantastic
[01:00:56] fantastic well tomo thank you so much for being on
[01:00:58] well tomo thank you so much for being on coffee talk and
[01:00:59] coffee talk and thank you thank you cheers to everyone
[01:01:01] thank you thank you cheers to everyone thank you cheryl
[01:01:03] thank you cheryl thank you thank you ian and we'll see
[01:01:05] thank you thank you ian and we'll see you all next time
[01:01:06] you all next time on the next coffee talk cheers tomo
[01:01:09] on the next coffee talk cheers tomo thank you thank you
[01:01:10] thank you thank you bye everyone see ya see you all right
[01:01:24] bye everyone see ya see you all right you

Coffee Talk Episode #7: Professor Tomo Fujita

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcW37HAwoBc
Translation: zh-TW

[00:00] 這是 tomo tomoko 這是咖啡談話
[00:03] 這是 tomo tomoko 這是咖啡談話伯克利
[00:04] 伯克利
[00:13] 嘿 tombo 好了你好嗎我
[00:15] 嘿 tombo 好了你好嗎我做得很好
[00:16] 做得很好嗯 大家好我是 kim perleck
[00:18] 很好嗯 大家好我是 kim perleck 我是吉他系的系主任
[00:20] 我是吉他系的系主任歡迎來到
[00:21] 以及又一期咖啡談話節目嗯 像往常一樣
[00:24] 又一期咖啡談話節目嗯 像往常一樣我們有 cheryl bailey 副主任
[00:25] 往常我們有 cheryl bailey 副主任
[00:26] 和我們在一起大家好我實際上
[00:28] 和我們在一起大家好我實際上這次確實有我的伯克利馬克杯
[00:31] 這次確實有我的伯克利馬克杯這個節目我也是乾杯 cheryl
[00:34] 這個節目我也是乾杯 cheryl 乾杯我不需要一個不同的但
[00:38] 乾杯我不需要一個不同的但沒關係我們有 ian steed 我們
[00:40] 沒關係我們有 ian steed 我們的高級部門協調員嘿 ian
[00:42] 高級部門協調員嘿 ian 你好
[00:47] 而今天我們的特別嘉賓是
[00:49] 而今天我們的特別嘉賓是 tomo fujita
[00:51] tomo fujita 吉他系的教授嘿
[00:53] 吉他系的教授嘿 tommy 你好
[00:54] tommy 你好你好嗎大家好太棒了
[00:57] 你好嗎大家好太棒了咖啡敬你一杯
[00:58] 咖啡敬你一杯是的是的絕對是耶 這太棒了
[01:02] 是的，是的，绝对是的，这太棒了，所以去办公室最好的事情之一
[01:04] 所以去办公室最好的事情之一正如伊恩在开头所说
[01:06] 办公室正如伊恩在每集开头所说
[01:07] 每集我们都有这个相当不错的
[01:09] 集我们都有这个相当不错的咖啡机
[01:10] 咖啡机对吧，就像我们的办公室一样
[01:13] 对吧，就像我们的办公室是咖啡聚集地，嗯，我
[01:16] 咖啡聚集地，嗯，我非常想念
[01:17] 非常想念，我注意到在远程办公区
[01:20] 我注意到在远程办公区，就像智，你的办公室就在对面
[01:22] 就像智，你的办公室就在对面
[01:23] 从吉他办公室 418 室是的
[01:26] 从吉他办公室 418 室是的，是的，没错，非常酷，我总能看到
[01:29] 是的，没错，非常酷，我总能看到你
[01:30] 你喝咖啡，好吧，好吧，早上好
[01:32] 喝咖啡，好吧，好吧，早上好，嗯，你知道的，是的，午餐时间，是的
[01:34] 嗯，你知道的，是的，午餐时间，是的，我知道，所以能得到这个真的很不错
[01:37] 我知道，所以能得到这个真的很不错，所以智，你在家的时候会
[01:39] 骑行，所以智，你在家的时候会在咖啡里放什么
[01:40] 你在咖啡里放什么？你的咖啡怎么喝？加奶油吗？不
[01:43] 不加糖，只加奶油
[01:45] 不加糖，只加奶油，一半一半，不错，但是
[01:48] 一半一半，不错，但是我真的很喜欢一半一半，所以每当我
[01:51] 我真的很喜欢一半一半，所以每当我购物的时候
[01:53] 我去购物，我倾向于买太多了，我买
[01:56] 我倾向于买太多了，我买像
[01:56] 像这样，可能四五个，所以
[01:59] 这样，可能四五个，所以至少像
[02:00] 至少像一个月，你知道吗，哇，好吧
[02:03] 你知道这个月哇好的是的是的你总是有它我一直我
[02:05] 是的是的你总是有它我一直我想来一半一半所以嗯
[02:08] 想来一半一半所以嗯是的我买了很多太棒了什么样
[02:11] 是的我买了很多太棒了你喝什么咖啡比如
[02:13] 咖啡你喝什么咖啡实际上我买你知道在线
[02:15] 咖啡实际上我买你知道来自路易斯安那州的在线
[02:18] 来自路易斯安那州有趣的来自路易斯安那州但它叫
[02:20] 有趣的来自路易斯安那州但它叫路易斯安那咖啡咖啡
[02:22] 咖啡路易斯安那咖啡就像真的呃有点深
[02:25] 就像真的呃有点深你知道深的味道但是嗯我再次我买
[02:28] 你知道深的味道但是嗯我再次我买18盒或20盒你知道所以
[02:31] 18盒或20盒你知道所以我有
[02:31] 我什么都有储备你知道就像
[02:33] 什么都有储备你知道就像一串很多其他的
[02:38] 那是路易斯安那烘焙机还是
[02:40] 那是路易斯安那烘焙机还是只是
[02:42] 它是只是品牌品牌路易斯安那路易斯安那我
[02:45] 品牌品牌路易斯安那路易斯安那我认为
[02:46] 认为下次我会给你看是的是的它是
[02:47] 下次我会给你看是的是的这是非常好的咖啡就像你知道
[02:49] 非常好的咖啡就像你知道为什么不能在外面我的意思是现在我有更多
[02:51] 为什么不能在外面我的意思是现在我有更多像
[02:52] 像一个包裹你知道没有罐子
[02:54] 包裹你知道没有罐子好吧然后
[02:55] 好吧然后我的妻子贝丝她买了一点点
[02:58] 我的妻子贝丝她买了一点点风味咖啡就像你知道
[03:00] 风味咖啡就像你知道嗯一些榛子味或者
[03:03] 嗯，一些榛子味，或者，呃，一些，你知道的，香草味那樣的。
[03:06] 呃，一些，你知道的，香草味那樣的，然後我們...
[03:06] 然後我們混合一點點那個和那個。
[03:08] 混合一點點那個和那個。這很奇怪。
[03:10] 是的，不錯。聽起來很棒。聽起來很棒。
[03:13] 不錯。聽起來很棒。聽起來很棒。嗯，所以我們一直問大家的第一個問題之一是...
[03:16] 嗯，所以我們一直問大家的第一個問題之一是...
[03:17] 一直問大家，好的？是你經歷過幾個...
[03:20] 好的，是你經歷過幾個不同的...
[03:21] 在柏克萊的不同第一天。你曾是...
[03:23] 學生，你也曾是教職員工。所以...
[03:24] 你也曾是教職員工。所以，你能選一個...
[03:26] 你能選一個第一天並告訴我們嗎？你...
[03:27] 第一天並告訴我們。你也可以告訴我們兩者，但是...
[03:30] 也可以告訴我們兩者，但是對你來說，在你第一個...
[03:32] 在柏克萊的第一天對你來說是什麼樣的？
[03:33] 在柏克萊的第一天。嗯，你知道，真正的第一天，真的...
[03:35] 嗯，你知道，真正的第一天，真的，當，當我抵達波士頓時，然後...
[03:37] 當，當我抵達波士頓時，然後第二天...
[03:39] 第二天，嗯，我的室友或者我只是要住...
[03:40] 嗯，我的室友或者我只是要住在一起...
[03:44] 和，你知道，帶我去了，嗯，柏克萊...
[03:44] 你知道，開車帶我去了，嗯，柏克萊。然後我做的第一件事是進入 150...
[03:47] 開車。然後我做的第一件事是自己進入 150...
[03:52] 自己。下樓時，我馬上就迷路了。
[03:53] 下樓時，我馬上就迷路了。這幾乎就像，發生了什麼事？
[03:57] 就像，這幾乎就像發生了什麼事？就像，我幾乎就像...
[04:00] 我幾乎就像，真的不能，你知道，找到...
[04:00] 真的不能，你知道，找到任何地方。然後我最後...
[04:04] 然後我去了洗衣房或別的地方，真的
[04:06] 我去了洗衣房或別的地方，真的好熱，你知道那是第一天
[04:08] 好熱，你知道那是第一天，真的
[04:08] 真的，然後是的，那是第一天，真的去
[04:11] 然後是的，那是第一天，真的四處走動，我可以看到樂隊，你知道
[04:13] 四處走動，我可以看到樂隊，你知道，嗯
[04:14] 嗯，所以我的方向感真的很差
[04:16] 所以我的方向感真的很差
[04:17] 方向感，而且我在150人中，我首先
[04:19] 而且我在150人中，我首先要找一門課真的很难
[04:23] 要找一門課真的很难，我，是的，我記得第一門課是
[04:25] 我，是的，我記得第一門課是安排一個
[04:26] 由布萊恩·劉易斯安排的，他是一個很好的人
[04:30] 由布萊恩·劉易斯安排的，他是一個很好的人，他講課
[04:31] 他講課的每一個細節，你知道，我完全不知道
[04:34] 他講的內容，你知道，我完全不知道他在說什麼
[04:37] 我在說什麼，因為我沒有意識到我的英語
[04:39] 因為我沒有意識到我的英語能力真的很差
[04:41] 能力真的很差，換句話說，我能讀，我能讀，但是
[04:43] 換句話說，我能讀，我能讀，但是我的聽力能力就像
[04:45] 我的聽力能力就像，哇，每個人說話都那麼快，而且
[04:48] 哇，每個人說話都那麼快，而且每個人都有點波士頓口音
[04:49] 每個人都有點波士頓口音，對吧，所以我當時想，哇
[04:51] 有點對吧，所以我當時想，哇，那是什麼，你知道嗎，是的，所以就像
[04:53] 那是什麼，你知道嗎，是的，所以就像語言問題是我遇到的第一個，就像
[04:56] 語言問題是我遇到的第一個，你知道，在柏克萊大學遇到的主要問題，我
[04:58] 你知道，在柏克萊大學遇到的主要問題，我當時想，哇，怎麼
[04:59] 我當時想，哇，我怎麼能克服這個，你知道嗎，所以
[05:03] 我怎麼能克服這個，你知道嗎，所以那很難，是的，我甚至錯過了
[05:06] 那很難，是的，我甚至錯過了，我甚至錯過了你知道的期中考
[05:08] 我甚至錯過了你知道的期中考，因為我不知道是什麼時候
[05:09] 因為我不知道期中考是什麼時候
[05:11] 期中考，哇，你知道嗎，Tomo，你能找到路嗎？
[05:14] 哇，你知道嗎，Tomo，你能找到路嗎？
[05:15] 在這個50號建築物裡，因為我還是會迷路
[05:17] 在這個50號建築物裡，因為我還是會迷路
[05:19] 在這個世界上，是的，現在他們實際上已經改變了一點
[05:21] 是的，現在他們實際上已經改變了一點
[05:22] 一點點，所以是的，我不知道確切的我我
[05:25] 所以是的，我不知道確切的我我必須繞一點路，是的
[05:28] 必須繞一點路，是的，是的，我認為這是一件事，那就是
[05:30] 是的，我認為這是一件事，那就是沒有人理解，當他們第一次
[05:31] 沒有人理解，當他們第一次來的時候，你可能永遠不會
[05:32] 來，你可能永遠不知道如何通過，是的，大多數
[05:35] 知道如何通過，是的，大多數建築物都是直的
[05:37] 建築物是直的，你知道嗎，走這邊，走那邊，但是
[05:39] 向上，你知道嗎，走這邊，走那邊，但是那就像幾乎就像
[05:40] 那就像幾乎就像每個角度，就像幾乎就像一個兩個
[05:42] 每個角度，就像幾乎就像兩個不同的樓梯在
[05:43] 不同的樓梯在合奏室裡，尤其是，是的，你怎麼會
[05:45] 合奏室裡，尤其是，是的，你怎麼會找到一個合奏室，你
[05:47] 你怎麼會找到一個合奏室，你知道如何解釋去哪裡，你
[05:49] 知道如何解釋去哪裡，你知道
[05:51] Omo，你知道嗎，那真是太勇敢了
[05:54] Omo，你知道嗎，你真是太勇敢了
[05:54] 你從日本來到伯克利
[05:58] 你從日本來到伯克利，你顯然非常興奮，是的
[06:01] 你顯然非常興奮，是的，但是呃，來到伯克利然後只是
[06:05] 但是呃，來到伯克利然後只是，我的意思是，這是一個很大的承諾，我
[06:07] 我的意思是，这是一种承诺，我一直很钦佩。
[06:08] 一直钦佩那些来的国际学生。
[06:11] 嗯，来的国际学生，特别是如果。
[06:12] 特别是如果他们如此兴奋，并且他们的。
[06:13] 他们如此兴奋，并且他们的英语可能是。
[06:15] 英语可能是，是的，真的，我只是觉得哇，我不能。
[06:18] 是的，真的，我只是觉得哇，我不知道我是否能自己做到，我。
[06:20] 不够勇敢，我说，我明白了，嗯，它是。
[06:22] 不够勇敢，我说，我明白了，嗯，我认为。
[06:23] 我认为音乐把我们都聚集在一起，并教会了。
[06:26] 音乐把我们都聚集在一起，并教会了伯克利，这就是我的第一个。
[06:27] 伯克利，这就是我的第一个爱好。
[06:28] 爱好，然后在那之后，任何问题。
[06:31] 然后在那之后，任何问题都很好。
[06:32] 很好，所以你必须，你知道，去做。
[06:34] 所以你必须，你知道，去做，你知道，所以那就是。
[06:35] 你知道，所以那就是我曾有的那种态度，但我也。
[06:38] 我曾有的那种态度，但我也想让很多人知道。
[06:42] 一旦我放弃了我的吉他，放弃了演奏。
[06:47] 一旦我放弃了我的吉他，放弃了演奏，很多人都不知道。
[06:49] 很多人都不知道，仅仅因为。
[06:50] 因为，嗯，你知道，我不会说太多关于什么。
[06:53] 嗯，你知道，我不会说太多关于发生的事情，你知道，呃，就像。
[06:55] 发生的事情就像，你知道，青少年。
[06:57] 每个人，你知道，青少年，你知道，玩摇滚音乐和所有那些。
[06:59] 你知道，玩摇滚音乐和所有那些，然后你发现。
[07:00] 然后你发现，你知道，你最喜欢的吉他手。
[07:03] 你知道，你最喜欢的吉他手在一个乐队里演奏。
[07:05] 在一个乐队里演奏，所以直到16岁。
[07:08] 所以直到16、17岁，我只是觉得哇，我想做这个。
[07:12] 17岁的时候，我只是觉得哇，我想做这个，然后父母、老师、每个人
[07:16] 然后父母、老师、每个人都在谈论大学，然后
[07:19] 谈论大学，然后我开始听到一些事情，比如音乐是
[07:22] 我开始听到一些事情，比如音乐不是那么
[07:22] 一个很好的职业选择，因为
[07:25] 没有保证
[07:28] 因为没有保证，我母亲也这么说，然后我
[07:31] 我母亲也这么说，然后我，你知道，我和我的老师谈话
[07:32] 你知道，我和我的老师谈话，我，我没有足够的
[07:35] 老师，我，我没有足够的，嗯，对计划的信心
[07:39] 嗯，对计划的信心，所以我想，好吧，我的想法是这样的
[07:42] 所以我想，好吧，我的想法是这样的，我去上普通大学
[07:44] 我去上普通大学，求我的父母，也许两年后我去
[07:47] 求我的父母，也许两年后我去伯克利
[07:48] 去伯克利，你知道，只是两年时间来享受我的
[07:51] 你知道，只是两年时间来享受我的美国生活，我的梦想
[07:53] 美国生活，我的梦想，两年，那就是我的梦想，所以
[07:55] 两年，那就是我的梦想，所以基本上
[07:56] 基本上17到18岁，两年
[07:59] 17到18岁，两年，我根本没碰我的吉他，哇，我
[08:02] 我根本没碰我的吉他，哇，我只是专注于学习
[08:04] 专注于学习，学习，你知道，为了大学
[08:07] 学习，你知道，为了大学，所以像真正的学习，我学习了差不多
[08:10] 所以，就像真的学习一样，我学习，几乎就像我起床一样
[08:11] 就像我每天夏天起床一样，我早上 5 点起床，我学习
[08:14] 每天夏天我早上 5 点起床，我从早上 6 点开始学习
[08:16] 从早上 6 点到中午，六个小时，然后
[08:19] 到中午，六个小时，然后休息一下，然后下午 2 点到，你知道
[08:22] 休息一下，然后下午 2 点到，你知道，6 点
[08:22] 6 点，7 点，所以一天 12 个小时，原因是
[08:25] 7 点，所以一天 12 个小时，原因是我的老师之一
[08:27] 我在高中的一位老师，那个人说如果你
[08:30] 在高中的时候，那个人说如果你学习
[08:31] 学习到中午六个小时，然后下午六个小时
[08:35] 学习到中午六个小时，然后下午六个小时，仍然有空闲时间
[08:39] 这很有趣，夏天过后我，所以
[08:41] 这很有趣，夏天过后我，所以我很兴奋，我
[08:42] 兴奋，我和这个人谈话，我做了这个，他说
[08:45] 我和这个人谈话，我做了这个，他说
[08:46] 说，哇，那只是一个表达，我没有
[08:50] 哇，那只是一个表达，我并没有真正想说那真的是
[08:52] 真的想说那是现实，那很容易
[08:54] 现实，那很容易，好的，哇，你在学习什么话题？
[08:59] 好的，哇，你在学习什么话题？英语，实际上是学习英语，就像
[09:02] 英语，实际上是学习英语，就像你知道的关于阅读，你知道
[09:03] 你知道关于阅读，你知道阅读
[09:03] 阅读，对吧？是的，所以英语，历史
[09:07] 对吧？是的，所以英语，历史，数学，你知道，是的，因为那是
[09:10] 数学，你知道，是的，因为那是那个
[09:11] 一個，你知道歷史真的很重要
[09:13] 你知道歷史、數學和英語真的很重要，你知道嗎
[09:14] 數學和英語，你知道嗎，我學習然後我去了，你知道嗎
[09:18] 我學習然後我去了，你知道嗎，那種學校是教
[09:20] 那種學校是教，你知道嗎，這些，你知道嗎，高級
[09:22] 你知道嗎，高級課程，你知道嗎，所以，我沒有
[09:24] 課程，你知道嗎，所以，我沒有學習
[09:25] 學習，嗯，當我還是初中生時，我
[09:28] 嗯，當我還是初中生時，我真的很糟糕，但在高中時
[09:31] 真的很糟糕，但在高中時，我有一位非常棒的老師，真的
[09:32] 我有一位非常棒的老師，真的很有幫助，我有一點點
[09:34] 很有幫助，我有一點點焦慮問題，你知道嗎，總是
[09:36] 焦慮問題，你知道嗎，總是，你知道嗎，有點感覺
[09:38] 知道，有點感覺，現在，現在真的，嗯，你知道嗎，很棒，所以
[09:42] 現在，現在真的，嗯，你知道嗎，很棒，所以這位英語老師非常友善
[09:45] 這位英語老師非常友善，他真的很理解我的焦慮問題
[09:48] 他真的很理解我的焦慮問題，在 80 年代，人們不知道
[09:50] 在 80 年代，人們當時不知道焦慮
[09:52] 當時的焦慮，他真的很理解，然後他只是
[09:53] 他真的很理解，然後他只是真的把我放在裡面
[09:55] 真的把我放在裡面，別擔心，別擔心，你知道嗎，我會
[09:57] 別擔心，別擔心，你知道嗎，我會幫助你，所以他真的幫助了我
[09:59] 幫助你，所以他真的幫助了我，你知道嗎，你知道嗎，然後他
[10:01] 你知道嗎，你知道嗎，然後他鼓勵我說
[10:02] 鼓勵我說，如果你學習這個，如果你得到這個，你
[10:04] 如果你學習這個，如果你得到這個，你就會獲得獎學金
[10:06] 獲得獎學金，哦，我做到了，我只得到了
[10:09] 哦，我做到了，我只得到了高中裡面的兩個傢伙得到了
[10:11] 高中来了两个人获得了奖学金，所以我获得了第二年的奖学金
[10:13] 所以我获得了第二年，我获得了高中全额奖学金
[10:16] 我获得了高中全额奖学金，你知道的
[10:17] 你知道的，然后这个家伙真的帮了我，所以
[10:19] 然后这个家伙真的帮了我，所以几乎像我们一样
[10:20] 几乎像我们一样，我逐渐开始建立信心
[10:23] 我逐渐开始在不同方向上建立信心
[10:24] 在不同的方向上，不是吉他，而是来自不同的来源，你
[10:27] 不是吉他，而是来自不同的来源，你知道的
[10:27] 你知道的，所以现在我认为那位老师帮助了我
[10:31] 所以现在我认为那位老师帮助了我，我的自信心你知道的，摆脱了
[10:34] 我的自信心你知道的，摆脱了
[10:35] 从你知道的焦虑发作中，对吗？
[10:38] 你知道的焦虑发作，对吗？然后两年我相信这些
[10:40] 然后两年我相信这些老师来学习
[10:42] 老师来学习，所以我上了大学，我不知道
[10:45] 所以我上了大学，我不知道为什么
[10:46] 我选择了俄语在大学学习
[10:49] 我选择了俄语在大学学习
[10:49] 大学，哇，原因是我想明白了
[10:53] 哇，原因是我想明白了如何快速赚大钱
[10:57] 如何快速赚大钱，所以当时我的研究告诉我
[11:00] 所以当时我的研究告诉我，如果我学习俄语，如果我做
[11:03] 如果我学习俄语，如果我做，嗯，你知道的商业
[11:07] 嗯，你知道的商业，你知道的股票市场以及所有那些东西
[11:09] 你知道的股票市场以及所有那些东西，对吧？一些俄语
[11:10] 对，一些俄语，然后立刻就有不错的报酬了，所以
[11:13] 然後馬上就薪水不錯了，所以那就是我的目標，學習俄語，找一份好工作
[11:17] 我的目標是學習俄語，找一份好工作，我整天彈吉他，我的意思是整個週末
[11:19] 週末，這實際上是我的想法
[11:23] 這實際上是我的想法，我在大學學習，你知道的，俄羅斯
[11:26] 我在大學學習，你知道的，俄羅斯，意味著，你知道的，七八門俄語課程和
[11:30] 你知道的，七八門俄語課程和所有東西都用英語寫，所以我當時想
[11:33] 所有東西都用英語寫，所以我當時想，好吧，理解英語才能理解俄語
[11:37] 好吧，理解英語才能理解俄語，俄語，然後理解日語，這項工作量很大，你知道的
[11:42] 工作量很大，你知道的，然後，但我做到了，我討厭它
[11:45] 然後，但我做到了，我討厭它，然後我組建了樂隊 Funkman，你知道的
[11:49] 你知道的，我的腦子裡一直在玩，發生的是在大約一年的大學時間裡，我討厭它，但只是跳過繼續
[11:57] 跳過繼續，然後我找到了剛獲得伯克利獎學金的那個人
[12:01] 伯克利，一個叫小一治的傢伙，他是個貝斯手
[12:05] 一個叫小一治的傢伙，他是個貝斯手，他去了非常好的學校京都，京都大學
[12:13] 京都大學，我找到他，因為一個小鎮
[12:17] 我找到了他，因为一个小镇，他恨我，因为我问得太多了
[12:20] 他恨我，因为我问了太多问题
[12:23] 因为我走到他身边，嗯，我听到了
[12:27] 因为我走到他身边，嗯，我听说你获得了奖学金，嗯，我
[12:29] 你获得了奖学金，嗯，我对伯克利很感兴趣
[12:30] 对伯克利感兴趣，你就像在练习一样，你知道吗，就像你
[12:33] 你就像在练习一样，你知道吗，就像你知道基于应用的练习，他没有
[12:35] 知道基于应用的练习，他没有微笑练习
[12:36] 微笑练习，我只是不停地问问题
[12:39] 我只是不停地问问题，他放弃了，他开始告诉我所有
[12:43] 他放弃了，他开始告诉我所有，你知道他做了什么，然后每
[12:47] 你知道他做了什么，然后我跟着每一步
[12:49] 我跟着每一步，大约半年，也许六个月后
[12:53] 大约半年，也许六个月后，他去了伯克利，那
[12:54] 他去了伯克利，那是在82年，我想是82年或83年
[12:59] 是82年，我想是82年或83年，然后这也很有趣，我仍然问一个
[13:02] 然后这也很有趣，我仍然问一个问题
[13:03] 问题，在信中，寄信到波士顿
[13:08] 在信中，寄信到波士顿，然后他回答了一个问题，但是
[13:11] 然后他回答了一个问题，但是我忘了问另一个问题，那
[13:14] 我忘了问另一个问题，那需要大约两周更多的时间
[13:16] 需要大约两周更多的时间，你知道，所以，所以这就是为什么
[13:19] 你知道，所以，所以这就是为什么，你知道我，你知道我告诉人们，你知道人们给我发邮件
[13:21] 告诉人们，你知道人们给我发邮件问，你收到邮件了吗
[13:23] 问你收到邮件了吗，嗯，你得等两周，你知道
[13:26] 嗯，你得等两周，你知道，因为就是这样
[13:27] 因为就是这样，我就是这么做的，所以你得努力你的耐心
[13:32] 你的耐心，哇，然后从那里你有了勇气去伯克利试镜，或者
[13:38] 勇气去伯克利试镜，或者，是的，然后，是的，所以说服人们支持它，还是你做的
[13:44] 人们支持它，还是你悄悄做的
[13:45] 悄悄地，实际上有点秘密地，秘密地我停止了工作，我没告诉我父母
[13:52] 然后，嗯，然后那个时候我开始学习爵士吉他演奏
[13:57] 仅仅因为伯克利只是一个学校，我必须要有爵士乐
[13:59] 所以我有点了解，你知道和弦变化，但是
[14:04] 我仍然弹奏五声音阶或者任何我弹奏的领域
[14:08] 我不知道二五乐句，我不知道乐理，所以我找到了吉他老师，名叫武山口
[14:14] 老师名叫武山口，在日本京都，所以他教得很严格，你知道，嗯，像
[14:20] 嚴格來說，你知道嗎，嗯，像好的方式，你知道嗎，所以，呃，所以我參加了他的團體課程。
[14:23] 完整的課程，上週，你知道嗎，上個月的最後一週。
[14:28] 他總是說，他說，不要帶吉他，然後我必須寫下他解釋的多利安音階的所有音符。
[14:36] 三加什麼，我的意思是，那是什麼，你知道嗎，你知道嗎，度數等等。
[14:40] 所以第一件事，我的意思是，我仍然記得第一堂課，進來。
[14:43] 他彈奏，這是什麼，你知道嗎，什麼度數，哦，嗯，加七，好的，就像那樣，你知道嗎。
[14:52] 什麼是十三，也許，你知道嗎，我不知道，好的，好，嗯，我帶你，你知道嗎。
[15:01] 然後在那之後，你知道嗎，他談到了音程，所有的更多，你知道嗎，一切。
[15:06] 所以這裡有趣的部分是，他教我轉錄，每一個細節，什麼弦，什麼手指，什麼撥弦，如果我錯過一堂課。
[15:17] 三天后，我收到一封信，音樂，全部寫好了。
[15:21] 所有書寫的指法、弦、撥弦、一切
[15:24] 指法、弦、撥弦、一切，一年一次也不能錯過這個
[15:27] 一年一次也不能錯過這個節目，你知道
[15:28] 節目，你知道，對吧，所以他教我如何彈奏爵士樂
[15:31] 對吧，所以他教我如何彈奏爵士吉他
[15:32] 吉他，然後嗯，圍繞著它有很多故事，但是
[15:34] 然後嗯，圍繞著它有很多故事，但是我的空手道老師
[15:36] 我的空手道老師，我發現他喜歡爵士吉他，他
[15:39] 我發現他喜歡爵士吉他，他喜歡
[15:39] 喜歡 Bunny，你知道，Bernie Cassell，Kenny
[15:41] Bunny，你知道，Bernie Cassell，Kenny Barrell，他是那個
[15:43] Barrell，他再次秘密地幫助我
[15:46] 再次秘密地幫助我做這件事，就像找到老師，得到
[15:49] 做這件事，就像找到老師，得到這個想法，你知道
[15:51] 這個想法，你知道，然後大約一年
[15:54] 然後大約一年，實際上不到一年，我真的
[15:56] 實際上不到一年，我真的努力工作，寄出了我的試聽帶
[15:58] 努力工作，寄出了我的試聽帶，同時我學習英語
[16:00] 同時我也學習英語
[16:01] 我也去了英語學校，我交了
[16:04] 我去了英語學校，我交了朋友，一個英語老師
[16:05] 朋友，一個英語老師，所以我們成了朋友，所以我不用
[16:07] 所以我們成了朋友，所以我不用付英語學費，你知道
[16:09] 不用付英語學費，你知道，我們互相教，你知道，然後我
[16:12] 我們互相教，你知道，然後我寄了一份試聽帶到伯克利
[16:14] 寄了一份試聽帶到伯克利，我得到了獎學金
[16:19] 這是在嗯
[16:22] 這是回到84年，1984年。
[16:25] 84年，1984年。我獲得了柏克萊大學的獎學金，呃
[16:28] 我獲得了柏克萊大學的獎學金，呃，2500
[16:30] 2500，我想是來自柏克萊大學，然後我忘了
[16:33] 我想是來自柏克萊大學，然後我忘了有多少
[16:34] 多少，是的，大概是，你知道，2500來自
[16:37] 是的，大概是，你知道，2500來自柏克萊大學
[16:37] 柏克萊大學，二是，是兩千五百
[16:40] 二是，是兩千五百，然後兩千來自
[16:41] 然後兩千來自日語、日語和之間的東西
[16:44] 日語、日語和日本以及柏克萊大學之間的東西，類似於
[16:45] 日本和柏克萊大學，類似於那樣，我還有兩百美元
[16:48] 那個，我還有兩百美元，關於哥倫比亞大學，只是
[16:50] 關於哥倫比亞大學，這也很有趣，你知道我得到了
[16:51] 這也很有趣，你知道我得到了那個，只是關於哥倫比亞大學，我
[16:53] 那個，只是關於哥倫比亞大學，我不知道約翰·阿巴巴是誰
[16:55] 不知道約翰·阿巴巴是誰，當時，是的，但然後我得到了一個
[16:58] 獎學金，然後當時一個學期是2000
[16:59] 獎學金，然後當時一個學期是2000或1700，我想是1750
[17:03] 或1700，我想是1750，是的，哇，所以我想，好吧，我可以做到
[17:07] 是的，哇，所以我想，好吧，我可以做到，然後獎學金是
[17:10] 然後獎學金在兩年內可用，所以我決定
[17:13] 兩年內可用，所以我決定，84年到86年，我工作來維持生計
[17:17] 84年到86年，我工作來支付我的生活費
[17:22] 費用哇，所以一旦我討論了，我說
[17:26] 哇，所以一旦我討論了，我說我可以安排我的母親，我的父親，我
[17:28] 我可以安排我的母親，我的父親，我對不起，我辭職了
[17:30] 對不起，我辭職了，啊，是的，然後他說他們說好的
[17:33] 啊，是的，然後他說他們說好的，哇，我的意思是，所以你在一個時期學習
[17:36] 哇，我的意思是，所以你在那裡學習了一段時間
[17:37] 在那裡學習俄語的大學，是的，還有其他
[17:40] 俄語的大學，是的，還有其他科目，是的，然後你在學習
[17:43] 科目，是的，然後你在分別學習英語
[17:44] 英語分開準備來美國
[17:45] 準備來美國，你正在學習空手道
[17:47] 美國，你正在學習空手道，對嗎？你正在練習爵士樂
[17:49] 對，你正在練習爵士吉他、放克吉他，你還有一個
[17:51] 吉他、放克吉他，你還有一個樂隊
[17:52] 樂隊，是的，所以這是一種極大的職業道德
[17:55] 是的，所以這對一個年輕人來說是一種極大的職業道德，然後你有了你的
[17:59] 對於一個年輕人來說，然後你有了你的目標
[17:59] 目標公開設立，你有一個
[18:02] 公開設立，你追求一個
[18:03] 追求學士學位，然後
[18:05] 學士學位，然後秘密地你還有另一個追求
[18:07] 秘密地你還有另一個追求這次試鏡，然後一旦你
[18:08] 試鏡，然後一旦你實現了獲得獎學金的目標
[18:10] 實現了獲得獎學金的目標，然後你就有了一個計劃
[18:12] 獎學金，然後你就有了一個財務計劃，是的，沒錯，是的
[18:15] 財務方面，是的，沒錯，是的，所以
[18:16] 所以這是一種你培養出的極大的職業道德
[18:19] 這是一種你培養出的極大的職業道德
[18:20] 培養出來的，是的，是的，你怎麼知道，你
[18:23] 我做了，是的，是的，你怎麼知道，你認為
[18:24] 認為顯然那是某種東西
[18:26] 顯然那是某種東西，它會轉化到你生活的每一個部分
[18:28] 轉化到你生活的每一個部分，所以當你來到伯克利，而你
[18:30] 所以當你來到伯克利，而你是一名音樂學生，然後
[18:33] 是一名音樂學生，然後當你進入你職業生涯的這些部分
[18:35] 當你進入你職業生涯的這些部分，是的
[18:36] 職業生涯，是的，這顯然是你帶走的東西
[18:37] 這顯然是你帶走並繼續發展的東西，就像
[18:39] 帶走並繼續發展的東西，就像那種
[18:40] 那種，對，是的，我，哦，我認為我一直
[18:43] 對，是的，我，哦，我認為我一直認為
[18:44] 我擅長如何安排我的時間
[18:47] 我擅長如何安排我的時間，規劃，規劃，你知道，是的，幾乎是一個
[18:50] 規劃，規劃，你知道，是的，幾乎是一個規劃師，是的
[18:51] 規劃師，是的，但原因是直到
[18:55] 但原因是直到，直到我13歲，我有
[18:58] 直到我13歲，我有，我沒有任何慾望，我不，我
[19:01] 我沒有任何慾望，我不，我不喜歡運動，我不喜歡
[19:03] 不喜歡運動，我不喜歡，我還不太喜歡任何音樂，你
[19:06] 我還不太喜歡任何音樂，你知道，所以
[19:06] 知道，所以我就幾乎像，呃，幾乎像，呃
[19:11] 我就幾乎像，呃，幾乎像，呃，這真的很有趣，解釋幾乎沒有
[19:14] 這真的很有趣，解釋幾乎沒有慾望
[19:15] 慾望和沒有方向，它幾乎就像一個泡泡
[19:18] 和沒有方向，它幾乎就像一個泡泡，它只是有點
[19:19] 它只是有點漂浮著，什麼也不做，而我
[19:22] 漂浮著，什麼也不做，而我，我不喜歡在那裡的自己
[19:25] 我对自己在那里感到不满意，因为有些人真的很喜欢运动
[19:27] 因为有些人真的很喜欢运动，但我就是不喜欢
[19:29] 但我就是不喜欢运动，你知道吗，所以我就是不
[19:32] 喜欢运动，你知道吗，所以我就是不，我试着，你知道
[19:33] 试着，你知道，篮球，棒球，但我不好
[19:35] 篮球，棒球，但我不好玩球，你知道，所以我
[19:37] 玩球，你知道，所以我，所以日本的每个人都做所有事情
[19:39] 所以日本的每个人都以一种方式做所有事情
[19:40] 以一种方式，然后他们就那样尊重它，如果我
[19:42] 然后他们就那样尊重它，如果我不这样做，他们他们
[19:44] 不这样做，他们他们做了一种，你知道，放，你知道，一种
[19:47] 做了一种，你知道，放，你知道，一种错误的位置
[19:49] 错误的位置，你知道，我的意思是，实际上我有一点
[19:51] 你知道，我的意思是，实际上我有一点，当我上小学的时候，我
[19:53] 点，当我上小学的时候，我有一点点嗯
[19:55] 有一点点嗯，像欺凌一样的事情，人们不喜欢
[19:57] 像欺凌一样的事情，人们不喜欢我，因为我真的不合群
[19:59] 喜欢我，因为我真的不合群
[20:00] 团体，对吧，我很难适应
[20:03] 团体，对吧，我很难适应那
[20:04] 那，是的，然后我用音乐表达自己，而
[20:07] 是的，然后我用音乐表达自己，而那不是一件真正的好事
[20:09] 那不是一件真正的好事，你知道，在80年代早期
[20:11] 在80年代早期，你知道，尤其
[20:13] 尤其，嗯，小学，高中
[20:15] 嗯，小学，高中，每个人都想做
[20:16] 每个人都想做同样的事情，好的，是的，所以那有点
[20:19] 同样的事情，好的，是的，所以那有点难熬，你知道
[20:20] 难熬，你知道，但然后，一旦我找到了吉他
[20:23] 但然后，一旦我找到了吉他，我真的很喜欢这个

Coffee Talk Episode #7: Professor Tomo Fujita

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcW37HAwoBc
Translation: zh-TW

[00:00] this is tomo tomoko this is coffee talk
這是 tomo tomoko 這是咖啡談話

[00:03] this is tomo tomoko this is coffee talk berkeley
這是 tomo tomoko 這是咖啡談話伯克利

[00:04] berkeley
伯克利

[00:13] hey tombo all right hi how are you i'm
嘿 tombo 好了你好嗎我

[00:15] hey tombo all right hi how are you i'm doing
嘿 tombo 好了你好嗎我做得很好

[00:16] doing great um hey everybody i'm kim perleck
做得很好嗯 大家好我是 kim perleck

[00:18] great um hey everybody i'm kim perleck i'm the chair of the guitar department
很好嗯 大家好我是 kim perleck 我是吉他系的系主任

[00:20] i'm the chair of the guitar department and welcome to
我是吉他系的系主任歡迎來到

[00:21] and welcome to another episode of coffee talk um as
以及又一期咖啡談話節目嗯 像往常一樣

[00:24] another episode of coffee talk um as usual we have cheryl bailey assistant
又一期咖啡談話節目嗯 像往常一樣我們有 cheryl bailey 副主任

[00:25] usual we have cheryl bailey assistant chair
往常我們有 cheryl bailey 副主任

[00:26] chair with us hello everybody and i actually
和我們在一起大家好我實際上

[00:28] with us hello everybody and i actually do have my berkeley mug this time
和我們在一起大家好我實際上這次確實有我的伯克利馬克杯

[00:31] do have my berkeley mug this time this episode me too cheers cheryl
這次確實有我的伯克利馬克杯這個節目我也是乾杯 cheryl

[00:34] this episode me too cheers cheryl cheers i don't need a different one but
這個節目我也是乾杯 cheryl 乾杯我不需要一個不同的但

[00:38] cheers i don't need a different one but that's okay we've got ian steed our
乾杯我不需要一個不同的但沒關係我們有 ian steed 我們

[00:40] that's okay we've got ian steed our senior department coordinator hey ian
沒關係我們有 ian steed 我們的高級部門協調員嘿 ian

[00:42] senior department coordinator hey ian hello
高級部門協調員嘿 ian 你好

[00:47] and as our special guest today we have
而今天我們的特別嘉賓是

[00:49] and as our special guest today we have tomo fujita
而今天我們的特別嘉賓是 tomo fujita

[00:51] tomo fujita professor in the guitar department hey
tomo fujita 吉他系的教授嘿

[00:53] professor in the guitar department hey tommy hi
吉他系的教授嘿 tommy 你好

[00:54] tommy hi hello how are you hey everyone great
tommy 你好你好嗎大家好太棒了

[00:57] hello how are you hey everyone great coffee cheers to you
你好嗎大家好太棒了咖啡敬你一杯

[00:58] coffee cheers to you yes yes definitely yeah this is great
咖啡敬你一杯是的是的絕對是耶 這太棒了

[01:02] yes yes definitely yeah this is great so one of the best things about going to
是的，是的，绝对是的，这太棒了，所以去办公室最好的事情之一

[01:04] so one of the best things about going to the office as ian says in the beginning
所以去办公室最好的事情之一正如伊恩在开头所说

[01:06] the office as ian says in the beginning of each
办公室正如伊恩在每集开头所说

[01:07] of each episode is we have this pretty intense
每集我们都有这个相当不错的

[01:09] episode is we have this pretty intense coffee maker
集我们都有这个相当不错的咖啡机

[01:10] coffee maker right like our office is
咖啡机对吧，就像我们的办公室一样

[01:13] right like our office is kind of the coffee hang and um what i
对吧，就像我们的办公室是咖啡聚集地，嗯，我

[01:16] kind of the coffee hang and um what i miss a lot
咖啡聚集地，嗯，我非常想念

[01:17] miss a lot i've noticed in the remote campus is
非常想念，我注意到在远程办公区

[01:20] i've noticed in the remote campus is like tomo your office is right across
我注意到在远程办公区，就像智，你的办公室就在对面

[01:22] like tomo your office is right across from
就像智，你的办公室就在对面

[01:23] from from the guitar office room 418 yeah
从吉他办公室 418 室是的

[01:26] from the guitar office room 418 yeah yeah right very cool i always get to see
从吉他办公室 418 室是的，是的，没错，非常酷，我总能看到

[01:29] yeah right very cool i always get to see you
是的，没错，非常酷，我总能看到你

[01:30] you over coffee all right all right morning
你喝咖啡，好吧，好吧，早上好

[01:32] over coffee all right all right morning uh you know yeah lunch time yes
喝咖啡，好吧，好吧，早上好，嗯，你知道的，是的，午餐时间，是的

[01:34] uh you know yeah lunch time yes i know so this is really nice to get to
嗯，你知道的，是的，午餐时间，是的，我知道，所以能得到这个真的很不错

[01:37] i know so this is really nice to get to ride so tomo when you're at home what do
我知道，所以能得到这个真的很不错，所以智，你在家的时候会

[01:39] ride so tomo when you're at home what do you put in your coffee
骑行，所以智，你在家的时候会在咖啡里放什么

[01:40] you put in your coffee how do you take your car just cream no
你在咖啡里放什么？你的咖啡怎么喝？加奶油吗？不

[01:43] no sugar just cream
不加糖，只加奶油

[01:45] no sugar just cream half and half nice but
不加糖，只加奶油，一半一半，不错，但是

[01:48] half and half nice but i really love half and half so whenever
一半一半，不错，但是我真的很喜欢一半一半，所以每当我

[01:51] i really love half and half so whenever i go to the shopping
我真的很喜欢一半一半，所以每当我购物的时候

[01:53] i go to the shopping i tend to buy a little too much i buy
我去购物，我倾向于买太多了，我买

[01:56] i tend to buy a little too much i buy like
我倾向于买太多了，我买像

[01:56] like this like maybe four or five of them so
像这样，可能四五个，所以

[01:59] this like maybe four or five of them so at least like a
这样，可能四五个，所以至少像

[02:00] at least like a month you know whoa okay
至少像一个月，你知道吗，哇，好吧

[02:03] month you know whoa okay yeah yeah you always have it i always i
你知道这个月哇好的是的是的你总是有它我一直我

[02:05] yeah yeah you always have it i always i want to have a half and half so um
是的是的你总是有它我一直我想来一半一半所以嗯

[02:08] want to have a half and half so um yeah i buy tons that's great what kind
想来一半一半所以嗯是的我买了很多太棒了什么样

[02:11] yeah i buy tons that's great what kind of coffee do you drink like
是的我买了很多太棒了你喝什么咖啡比如

[02:13] of coffee do you drink like coffee actually i buy you know online
咖啡你喝什么咖啡实际上我买你知道在线

[02:15] coffee actually i buy you know online from louisiana
咖啡实际上我买你知道来自路易斯安那州的在线

[02:18] from louisiana funny from louisiana but it's called
来自路易斯安那州有趣的来自路易斯安那州但它叫

[02:20] funny from louisiana but it's called coffee louisiana coffee
有趣的来自路易斯安那州但它叫路易斯安那咖啡咖啡

[02:22] coffee louisiana coffee like really uh kind of dark
咖啡路易斯安那咖啡就像真的呃有点深

[02:25] like really uh kind of dark you know dark taste but um i again i buy
就像真的呃有点深你知道深的味道但是嗯我再次我买

[02:28] you know dark taste but um i again i buy 18 count or 20 can one you know so that
你知道深的味道但是嗯我再次我买18盒或20盒你知道所以

[02:31] 18 count or 20 can one you know so that i have
18盒或20盒你知道所以我有

[02:31] i have everything stock you know just like a
我什么都有储备你知道就像

[02:33] everything stock you know just like a strings a lot of other
什么都有储备你知道就像一串很多其他的

[02:38] is that is that a roaster louisiana or
那是路易斯安那烘焙机还是

[02:40] is that is that a roaster louisiana or it's the just the
那是路易斯安那烘焙机还是只是

[02:42] it's the just the the brand brand louisiana louisiana i
它是只是品牌品牌路易斯安那路易斯安那我

[02:45] the brand brand louisiana louisiana i think
品牌品牌路易斯安那路易斯安那我认为

[02:46] think i'll show you next time yeah yeah it's
认为下次我会给你看是的是的它是

[02:47] i'll show you next time yeah yeah it's really good coffee like you know
下次我会给你看是的是的这是非常好的咖啡就像你知道

[02:49] really good coffee like you know why can't outside i mean now i have more
非常好的咖啡就像你知道为什么不能在外面我的意思是现在我有更多

[02:51] why can't outside i mean now i have more like a
为什么不能在外面我的意思是现在我有更多像

[02:52] like a package like you know without the cans
像一个包裹你知道没有罐子

[02:54] package like you know without the cans well okay and then
包裹你知道没有罐子好吧然后

[02:55] well okay and then my wife beth she buys a little bit
好吧然后我的妻子贝丝她买了一点点

[02:58] my wife beth she buys a little bit flavor coffee like you know
我的妻子贝丝她买了一点点风味咖啡就像你知道

[03:00] flavor coffee like you know um something hazelnut or
风味咖啡就像你知道嗯一些榛子味或者

[03:03] Um, something hazelnut or, uh, something, you know, vanilla like that.
嗯，一些榛子味，或者，呃，一些，你知道的，香草味那樣的。

[03:06] Uh, something, you know, vanilla like that, then we...
呃，一些，你知道的，香草味那樣的，然後我們...

[03:06] Then we mix just a little bit of that and that.
然後我們混合一點點那個和那個。

[03:08] Mix just a little bit of that and that. That's weird.
混合一點點那個和那個。這很奇怪。

[03:10] Yeah, nice. That sounds great. That sounds great.
是的，不錯。聽起來很棒。聽起來很棒。

[03:13] Nice. That sounds great. That sounds great. Um, so one of the first questions we've...
不錯。聽起來很棒。聽起來很棒。嗯，所以我們一直問大家的第一個問題之一是...

[03:16] Um, so one of the first questions we've always been asking people...
嗯，所以我們一直問大家的第一個問題之一是...

[03:17] Always been asking people, okay? Is that you have had a couple of...
一直問大家，好的？是你經歷過幾個...

[03:20] Okay, is that you have had a couple of different...
好的，是你經歷過幾個不同的...

[03:21] Different first days at Berkeley. You've been a...
在柏克萊的不同第一天。你曾是...

[03:23] Student, and you've been a faculty member. So...
學生，你也曾是教職員工。所以...

[03:24] And you've been a faculty member. So, could you pick one of those...
你也曾是教職員工。所以，你能選一個...

[03:26] Could you pick one of those first days and tell us about it? You...
你能選一個第一天並告訴我們嗎？你...

[03:27] First days and tell us about it. You could tell us about both as well, but...
第一天並告訴我們。你也可以告訴我們兩者，但是...

[03:30] Could tell us about both as well, but what was it like for you on your first...
也可以告訴我們兩者，但是對你來說，在你第一個...

[03:32] What was it like for you on your first day of Berkeley?
在柏克萊的第一天對你來說是什麼樣的？

[03:33] Day of Berkeley. Well, you know, real first days, really...
在柏克萊的第一天。嗯，你知道，真正的第一天，真的...

[03:35] Well, you know, real first days, really, when, when I arrived at Boston and the...
嗯，你知道，真正的第一天，真的，當，當我抵達波士頓時，然後...

[03:37] When, when I arrived at Boston and the next day...
當，當我抵達波士頓時，然後第二天...

[03:39] Next day, um, my roommate or I was just to stay...
第二天，嗯，我的室友或者我只是要住...

[03:40] Um, my roommate or I was just to stay with...
嗯，我的室友或者我只是要住在一起...

[03:44] With, you know, brought me to, um, Berkeley...
和，你知道，帶我去了，嗯，柏克萊...

[03:44] You know, brought me to, um, Berkeley by car. And first thing I go into the 150...
你知道，開車帶我去了，嗯，柏克萊。然後我做的第一件事是進入 150...

[03:47] By car. And first thing I go into the 150 myself...
開車。然後我做的第一件事是自己進入 150...

[03:52] Myself. Going downstairs, I got lost right away.
自己。下樓時，我馬上就迷路了。

[03:53] Going downstairs, I got lost right away. That's almost like, what's going on?
下樓時，我馬上就迷路了。這幾乎就像，發生了什麼事？

[03:57] Like, that's almost like what's going on? Like, I'm almost like...
就像，這幾乎就像發生了什麼事？就像，我幾乎就像...

[04:00] I'm almost like, really not, you know, able to find...
我幾乎就像，真的不能，你知道，找到...

[04:00] Really not, you know, able to find anywhere. Then I ended up...
真的不能，你知道，找到任何地方。然後我最後...

[04:04] anywhere then i ended up i go to laundry room or something really
然後我去了洗衣房或別的地方，真的

[04:06] i go to laundry room or something really hot you know that was the first day
我去了洗衣房或別的地方，真的好熱，你知道那是第一天

[04:08] hot you know that was the first day really
好熱，你知道那是第一天，真的

[04:08] really and then yeah that's first day really go
真的，然後是的，那是第一天，真的去

[04:11] and then yeah that's first day really go around i can see the ensemble you know
然後是的，那是第一天，真的四處走動，我可以看到樂隊，你知道

[04:13] around i can see the ensemble you know um
四處走動，我可以看到樂隊，你知道，嗯

[04:14] um and so i have a really bad sense of
嗯，所以我的方向感真的很差

[04:16] and so i have a really bad sense of direction
所以我的方向感真的很差

[04:17] direction and being in a 150 myself first thing i
方向感，而且我在150人中，我首先

[04:19] and being in a 150 myself first thing i was finding a class was really difficult
而且我在150人中，我首先要找一門課真的很难

[04:23] was finding a class was really difficult and i yeah and remember first class was
要找一門課真的很难，我，是的，我記得第一門課是

[04:25] and i yeah and remember first class was arranging one
我，是的，我記得第一門課是安排一個

[04:26] arranging one by brian lewis and he's a very nice guy
由布萊恩·劉易斯安排的，他是一個很好的人

[04:30] by brian lewis and he's a very nice guy he talks
由布萊恩·劉易斯安排的，他是一個很好的人，他講課

[04:31] he talks everything you know detail i have no
他講課的每一個細節，你知道，我完全不知道

[04:34] everything you know detail i have no idea what he's talking about
他講的內容，你知道，我完全不知道他在說什麼

[04:37] idea what he's talking about because i didn't realize my english
我在說什麼，因為我沒有意識到我的英語

[04:39] because i didn't realize my english skills are really horrible
因為我沒有意識到我的英語能力真的很差

[04:41] skills are really horrible in other words i can read i can read but
能力真的很差，換句話說，我能讀，我能讀，但是

[04:43] in other words i can read i can read but my listening skill is like
換句話說，我能讀，我能讀，但是我的聽力能力就像

[04:45] my listening skill is like wow everybody talks so fast and
我的聽力能力就像，哇，每個人說話都那麼快，而且

[04:48] wow everybody talks so fast and everybody has a boston accent a little
哇，每個人說話都那麼快，而且每個人都有點波士頓口音

[04:49] everybody has a boston accent a little bit right so i was like wow
每個人都有點波士頓口音，對吧，所以我當時想，哇

[04:51] bit right so i was like wow what's that you know yeah so like a
有點對吧，所以我當時想，哇，那是什麼，你知道嗎，是的，所以就像

[04:53] what's that you know yeah so like a language problem was my first like
那是什麼，你知道嗎，是的，所以就像語言問題是我遇到的第一個，就像

[04:56] language problem was my first like you know major problem at the berkeley i
語言問題是我遇到的第一個，你知道，在柏克萊大學遇到的主要問題，我

[04:58] you know major problem at the berkeley i was like wow how
你知道，在柏克萊大學遇到的主要問題，我當時想，哇，怎麼

[04:59] was like wow how how can i um overcome this you know so
我當時想，哇，我怎麼能克服這個，你知道嗎，所以

[05:03] how can i um overcome this you know so that was hard yeah i i even missed
我怎麼能克服這個，你知道嗎，所以那很難，是的，我甚至錯過了

[05:06] that was hard yeah i i even missed i even missed the you know midterm
那很難，是的，我甚至錯過了，我甚至錯過了你知道的期中考

[05:08] i even missed the you know midterm because i didn't know when when was the
我甚至錯過了你知道的期中考，因為我不知道是什麼時候

[05:09] because i didn't know when when was the midterm
因為我不知道期中考是什麼時候

[05:11] midterm wow you know tomo can you find your way
期中考，哇，你知道嗎，Tomo，你能找到路嗎？

[05:14] wow you know tomo can you find your way around the one filled
哇，你知道嗎，Tomo，你能找到路嗎？

[05:15] around the one filled 50 building now because i still get lost
在這個50號建築物裡，因為我還是會迷路

[05:17] 50 building now because i still get lost in the world
在這個50號建築物裡，因為我還是會迷路

[05:19] in the world yeah now actually now they changed a
在這個世界上，是的，現在他們實際上已經改變了一點

[05:21] yeah now actually now they changed a little bit
是的，現在他們實際上已經改變了一點

[05:22] little bit so yeah i don't know exactly what i i
一點點，所以是的，我不知道確切的我我

[05:25] so yeah i don't know exactly what i i have to go around a little bit yeah
所以是的，我不知道確切的我我必須繞一點路，是的

[05:28] have to go around a little bit yeah yeah i think that's one thing is that
必須繞一點路，是的，是的，我認為這是一件事，那就是

[05:30] yeah i think that's one thing is that nobody understands that when they first
是的，我認為這是一件事，那就是沒有人理解，當他們第一次

[05:31] nobody understands that when they first come you like you may never
沒有人理解，當他們第一次來的時候，你可能永遠不會

[05:32] come you like you may never know how to get through yeah most
來，你可能永遠不知道如何通過，是的，大多數

[05:35] know how to get through yeah most buildings go straight
知道如何通過，是的，大多數建築物都是直的

[05:37] buildings go straight up you know go this way that way but
建築物是直的，你知道嗎，走這邊，走那邊，但是

[05:39] up you know go this way that way but that's like almost like
向上，你知道嗎，走這邊，走那邊，但是那就像幾乎就像

[05:40] that's like almost like every angle like in almost like a two
那就像幾乎就像每個角度，就像幾乎就像一個兩個

[05:42] every angle like in almost like a two different stairs in
每個角度，就像幾乎就像兩個不同的樓梯在

[05:43] different stairs in ensemble rooms especially yeah how are
不同的樓梯在合奏室裡，尤其是，是的，你怎麼會

[05:45] ensemble rooms especially yeah how are you going to find an ensemble room you
合奏室裡，尤其是，是的，你怎麼會找到一個合奏室，你

[05:47] you going to find an ensemble room you know how to explain to go to where you
你怎麼會找到一個合奏室，你知道如何解釋去哪裡，你

[05:49] know how to explain to go to where you know
知道如何解釋去哪裡，你知道

[05:51] omo that's you know that was so brave of
Omo，你知道嗎，那真是太勇敢了

[05:54] omo that's you know that was so brave of you
Omo，你知道嗎，你真是太勇敢了

[05:54] you to come from japan to berkeley
你從日本來到伯克利

[05:58] to come from japan to berkeley you were so excited obviously yeah
你從日本來到伯克利，你顯然非常興奮，是的

[06:01] you were so excited obviously yeah but uh to berkeley and and just
你顯然非常興奮，是的，但是呃，來到伯克利然後只是

[06:05] but uh to berkeley and and just i mean that's such a commitment i'm
但是呃，來到伯克利然後只是，我的意思是，這是一個很大的承諾，我

[06:07] I mean that's such a commitment I'm always admire.
我的意思是，这是一种承诺，我一直很钦佩。

[06:08] Always admire um international students that come.
一直钦佩那些来的国际学生。

[06:11] Um international students that come particularly if.
嗯，来的国际学生，特别是如果。

[06:12] Particularly if they're so excited and they their.
特别是如果他们如此兴奋，并且他们的。

[06:13] They're so excited and they their English might be.
他们如此兴奋，并且他们的英语可能是。

[06:15] English might be yeah really and I just think wow I don't.
英语可能是，是的，真的，我只是觉得哇，我不能。

[06:18] Yeah really and I just think wow I don't know if I could do that myself I'm.
是的，真的，我只是觉得哇，我不知道我是否能自己做到，我。

[06:20] Not brave enough I said I see well it's.
不够勇敢，我说，我明白了，嗯，它是。

[06:22] Not brave enough I said I see well it's I think.
不够勇敢，我说，我明白了，嗯，我认为。

[06:23] I think music brought us all together and taught.
我认为音乐把我们都聚集在一起，并教会了。

[06:26] Music brought us all together and taught Berkeley and that's kind of first.
音乐把我们都聚集在一起，并教会了伯克利，这就是我的第一个。

[06:27] Berkeley and that's kind of first passion.
伯克利，这就是我的第一个爱好。

[06:28] Passion and then after that anything any problem.
爱好，然后在那之后，任何问题。

[06:31] And then after that anything any problem just fine.
然后在那之后，任何问题都很好。

[06:32] Just fine just so you have to just you know do it.
很好，所以你必须，你知道，去做。

[06:34] Just so you have to just you know do it you know so that's.
所以你必须，你知道，去做，你知道，所以那就是。

[06:35] You know so that's that kind of a attitude I had but also.
你知道，所以那就是我曾有的那种态度，但我也。

[06:38] That kind of a attitude I had but also I want a lot of people to know that.
我曾有的那种态度，但我也想让很多人知道。

[06:42] Once I gave up my guitar gave up playing.
一旦我放弃了我的吉他，放弃了演奏。

[06:47] Once I gave up my guitar gave up playing and a lot of people don't know just.
一旦我放弃了我的吉他，放弃了演奏，很多人都不知道。

[06:49] And a lot of people don't know just because.
很多人都不知道，仅仅因为。

[06:50] Because um you know I don't tell much about what.
因为，嗯，你知道，我不会说太多关于什么。

[06:53] Um you know I don't tell much about what happened was like you know uh just like.
嗯，你知道，我不会说太多关于发生的事情，你知道，呃，就像。

[06:55] Happened was like you know teenager.
发生的事情就像，你知道，青少年。

[06:57] Everybody you know teenager you know play rock music and all that.
每个人，你知道，青少年，你知道，玩摇滚音乐和所有那些。

[06:59] You know play rock music and all that and then you find.
你知道，玩摇滚音乐和所有那些，然后你发现。

[07:00] And then you find you know your favorite guitar player.
然后你发现，你知道，你最喜欢的吉他手。

[07:03] You know your favorite guitar player being a band you play.
你知道，你最喜欢的吉他手在一个乐队里演奏。

[07:05] Being a band you play so up till age 16.
在一个乐队里演奏，所以直到16岁。

[07:08] so up till age 16 17 i was just like wow i want to do this
所以直到16、17岁，我只是觉得哇，我想做这个。

[07:12] 17 i was just like wow i want to do this then then parents teacher everybody
17岁的时候，我只是觉得哇，我想做这个，然后父母、老师、每个人

[07:16] then then parents teacher everybody talking about college and then
然后父母、老师、每个人都在谈论大学，然后

[07:19] talking about college and then i started hearing things like music is
谈论大学，然后我开始听到一些事情，比如音乐是

[07:22] i started hearing things like music is not so
我开始听到一些事情，比如音乐不是那么

[07:22] not so great choice to have your career just
一个很好的职业选择，因为

[07:25] great choice to have your career just because no guarantee
没有保证

[07:28] because no guarantee and my mother said that too then uh i
因为没有保证，我母亲也这么说，然后我

[07:31] and my mother said that too then uh i you know i was talking to my
我母亲也这么说，然后我，你知道，我和我的老师谈话

[07:32] you know i was talking to my teacher and i uh i didn't have enough
你知道，我和我的老师谈话，我，我没有足够的

[07:35] teacher and i uh i didn't have enough um like confidence about the plan
老师，我，我没有足够的，嗯，对计划的信心

[07:39] um like confidence about the plan so i thought okay my my idea was like
嗯，对计划的信心，所以我想，好吧，我的想法是这样的

[07:42] so i thought okay my my idea was like this i go to regular college
所以我想，好吧，我的想法是这样的，我去上普通大学

[07:44] this i go to regular college please my parents maybe two years i go
我去上普通大学，求我的父母，也许两年后我去

[07:47] please my parents maybe two years i go to berkeley
求我的父母，也许两年后我去伯克利

[07:48] to berkeley you know just two years to enjoy my
去伯克利，你知道，只是两年时间来享受我的

[07:51] you know just two years to enjoy my american life my dream
你知道，只是两年时间来享受我的美国生活，我的梦想

[07:53] american life my dream two years and that was my dream so
美国生活，我的梦想，两年，那就是我的梦想，所以

[07:55] two years and that was my dream so basically
两年，那就是我的梦想，所以基本上

[07:56] basically 17 to 18 two years
基本上17到18岁，两年

[07:59] 17 to 18 two years i didn't touch my guitar at all wow i
17到18岁，两年，我根本没碰我的吉他，哇，我

[08:02] i didn't touch my guitar at all wow i just did all about the studying
我根本没碰我的吉他，哇，我只是专注于学习

[08:04] just did all about the studying studying you know for college
专注于学习，学习，你知道，为了大学

[08:07] studying you know for college so like really study i study like almost
学习，你知道，为了大学，所以像真正的学习，我学习了差不多

[08:10] so like really study i study like almost like i get up
所以，就像真的学习一样，我学习，几乎就像我起床一样

[08:11] like i get up every day summer i get up 5 a.m i study
就像我每天夏天起床一样，我早上 5 点起床，我学习

[08:14] every day summer i get up 5 a.m i study from 6 00 a.m
每天夏天我早上 5 点起床，我从早上 6 点开始学习

[08:16] from 6 00 a.m to noon six hours and then
从早上 6 点到中午，六个小时，然后

[08:19] to noon six hours and then take a break and then 2 p.m to you know
到中午，六个小时，然后休息一下，然后下午 2 点到，你知道

[08:22] take a break and then 2 p.m to you know 6
休息一下，然后下午 2 点到，你知道，6 点

[08:22] 6 7 so that's 12 hours a day the reason is
6 点，7 点，所以一天 12 个小时，原因是

[08:25] 7 so that's 12 hours a day the reason is one of my teachers
7 点，所以一天 12 个小时，原因是我的老师之一

[08:27] one of my teachers at the high school the guy says if you
我在高中的一位老师，那个人说如果你

[08:30] at the high school the guy says if you study
在高中的时候，那个人说如果你学习

[08:31] study six hours up to noon and then six hours
学习到中午六个小时，然后下午六个小时

[08:35] six hours up to noon and then six hours afternoon still have a free time
学习到中午六个小时，然后下午六个小时，仍然有空闲时间

[08:39] this is funny after the summer i so
这很有趣，夏天过后我，所以

[08:41] this is funny after the summer i so excited i
这很有趣，夏天过后我，所以我很兴奋，我

[08:42] excited i i talked to this guy i did this and he
兴奋，我和这个人谈话，我做了这个，他说

[08:45] i talked to this guy i did this and he goes like
我和这个人谈话，我做了这个，他说

[08:46] goes like whoa that was just expression i didn't
说，哇，那只是一个表达，我没有

[08:50] whoa that was just expression i didn't really meant to say that's really
哇，那只是一个表达，我并没有真正想说那真的是

[08:52] really meant to say that's really reality that's easy
真的想说那是现实，那很容易

[08:54] reality that's easy okay wow what topics were you studying
现实，那很容易，好的，哇，你在学习什么话题？

[08:59] okay wow what topics were you studying english actually studying english like
好的，哇，你在学习什么话题？英语，实际上是学习英语，就像

[09:02] english actually studying english like you know about the reading you know
英语，实际上是学习英语，就像你知道的关于阅读，你知道

[09:03] you know about the reading you know reading
你知道关于阅读，你知道阅读

[09:03] reading right yeah so the english history
阅读，对吧？是的，所以英语，历史

[09:07] right yeah so the english history math you know yeah because that's the
对吧？是的，所以英语，历史，数学，你知道，是的，因为那是

[09:10] math you know yeah because that's the one
数学，你知道，是的，因为那是那个

[09:11] one it's really important you know history
一個，你知道歷史真的很重要

[09:13] it's really important you know history math and english you know that's
你知道歷史、數學和英語真的很重要，你知道嗎

[09:14] math and english you know that's i study and then i went to like you know
數學和英語，你知道嗎，我學習然後我去了，你知道嗎

[09:18] i study and then i went to like you know like kind of a school that to teach
我學習然後我去了，你知道嗎，那種學校是教

[09:20] like kind of a school that to teach these like you know high
那種學校是教，你知道嗎，這些，你知道嗎，高級

[09:22] these like you know high level course you know so and i didn't
你知道嗎，高級課程，你知道嗎，所以，我沒有

[09:24] level course you know so and i didn't study
課程，你知道嗎，所以，我沒有學習

[09:25] study um when i was a junior high school i was
學習，嗯，當我還是初中生時，我

[09:28] um when i was a junior high school i was really bad but in high school
嗯，當我還是初中生時，我真的很糟糕，但在高中時

[09:31] really bad but in high school i had a really great teacher really
真的很糟糕，但在高中時，我有一位非常棒的老師，真的

[09:32] i had a really great teacher really helpful i had a little bit of
我有一位非常棒的老師，真的很有幫助，我有一點點

[09:34] helpful i had a little bit of anxiety problem you know just always you
很有幫助，我有一點點焦慮問題，你知道嗎，總是

[09:36] anxiety problem you know just always you know a little bit feel
焦慮問題，你知道嗎，總是，你知道嗎，有點感覺

[09:38] know a little bit feel now now really um you know great so
知道，有點感覺，現在，現在真的，嗯，你知道嗎，很棒，所以

[09:42] now now really um you know great so this english teacher very kind
現在，現在真的，嗯，你知道嗎，很棒，所以這位英語老師非常友善

[09:45] this english teacher very kind he really understand my anxiety problem
這位英語老師非常友善，他真的很理解我的焦慮問題

[09:48] he really understand my anxiety problem back in the 80s people don't know about
他真的很理解我的焦慮問題，在 80 年代，人們不知道

[09:50] back in the 80s people don't know about anxiety back then
在 80 年代，人們當時不知道焦慮

[09:52] anxiety back then he really understood that then he just
當時的焦慮，他真的很理解，然後他只是

[09:53] he really understood that then he just really put me inside
他真的很理解，然後他只是真的把我放在裡面

[09:55] really put me inside don't worry don't worry you know i will
真的把我放在裡面，別擔心，別擔心，你知道嗎，我會

[09:57] don't worry don't worry you know i will help you so he really helped me
別擔心，別擔心，你知道嗎，我會幫助你，所以他真的幫助了我

[09:59] help you so he really helped me like you know you know then he
幫助你，所以他真的幫助了我，你知道嗎，你知道嗎，然後他

[10:01] like you know you know then he encouraged me says
你知道嗎，你知道嗎，然後他鼓勵我說

[10:02] encouraged me says if you study this if you get this you
鼓勵我說，如果你學習這個，如果你得到這個，你

[10:04] if you study this if you get this you get scholarship
如果你學習這個，如果你得到這個，你就會獲得獎學金

[10:06] get scholarship oh and i did that and i got only
獲得獎學金，哦，我做到了，我只得到了

[10:09] oh and i did that and i got only two guy from the high school got
哦，我做到了，我只得到了高中裡面的兩個傢伙得到了

[10:11] two guy from the high school got scholarship so i got second year scholarship
高中来了两个人获得了奖学金，所以我获得了第二年的奖学金

[10:13] so i got second year i got full scholarship from high school
所以我获得了第二年，我获得了高中全额奖学金

[10:16] i got full scholarship from high school you know
我获得了高中全额奖学金，你知道的

[10:17] you know and then so this guy really helped me so
你知道的，然后这个家伙真的帮了我，所以

[10:19] and then so this guy really helped me so almost like us
然后这个家伙真的帮了我，所以几乎像我们一样

[10:20] almost like us gradually i'm start gaining confidence
几乎像我们一样，我逐渐开始建立信心

[10:23] gradually i'm start gaining confidence in different direction
我逐渐开始在不同方向上建立信心

[10:24] in different direction not the guitar from different source you
在不同的方向上，不是吉他，而是来自不同的来源，你

[10:27] not the guitar from different source you know
不是吉他，而是来自不同的来源，你知道的

[10:27] know so now i think that teacher helped me
你知道的，所以现在我认为那位老师帮助了我

[10:31] so now i think that teacher helped me my confidence level you know get out
所以现在我认为那位老师帮助了我，我的自信心你知道的，摆脱了

[10:34] my confidence level you know get out from
我的自信心你知道的，摆脱了

[10:35] from you know anxiety attack right
从你知道的焦虑发作中，对吗？

[10:38] you know anxiety attack right and then two years i believe these
你知道的焦虑发作，对吗？然后两年我相信这些

[10:40] and then two years i believe these teachers to study
然后两年我相信这些老师来学习

[10:42] teachers to study so i went to college and i don't know
老师来学习，所以我上了大学，我不知道

[10:45] so i went to college and i don't know why
所以我上了大学，我不知道为什么

[10:46] why i i chose uh russian to study at the
我选择了俄语在大学学习

[10:49] i i chose uh russian to study at the college
我选择了俄语在大学学习

[10:49] college wow the reason is i i really figured out
大学，哇，原因是我想明白了

[10:53] wow the reason is i i really figured out how to make good money quickly
哇，原因是我想明白了如何快速赚大钱

[10:57] how to make good money quickly so back then my research was telling me
如何快速赚大钱，所以当时我的研究告诉我

[11:00] so back then my research was telling me if i study russian and if i do
所以当时我的研究告诉我，如果我学习俄语，如果我做

[11:03] if i study russian and if i do um you know business
如果我学习俄语，如果我做，嗯，你知道的商业

[11:07] um you know business you know stock market and all that stuff
嗯，你知道的商业，你知道的股票市场以及所有那些东西

[11:09] you know stock market and all that stuff right some russian
你知道的股票市场以及所有那些东西，对吧？一些俄语

[11:10] right some russian and then that was good pay right away so
对，一些俄语，然后立刻就有不错的报酬了，所以

[11:13] and then that was good pay right away so that was that was my my goal study russian get a great job
然後馬上就薪水不錯了，所以那就是我的目標，學習俄語，找一份好工作

[11:17] my my goal study russian get a great job i play guitar all day oh i mean all weekend
我的目標是學習俄語，找一份好工作，我整天彈吉他，我的意思是整個週末

[11:19] weekend that was my idea in reality
週末，這實際上是我的想法

[11:23] that was my idea in reality i study at the you know college russia
這實際上是我的想法，我在大學學習，你知道的，俄羅斯

[11:26] i study at the you know college russia means means you know seven eight courses russian and
我在大學學習，你知道的，俄羅斯，意味著，你知道的，七八門俄語課程和

[11:30] you know seven eight courses russian and everything written in english so i was like
你知道的，七八門俄語課程和所有東西都用英語寫，所以我當時想

[11:33] everything written in english so i was like okay understand english to understand russian
所有東西都用英語寫，所以我當時想，好吧，理解英語才能理解俄語

[11:37] okay understand english to understand russian russian then understand the japanese man that's a lot of work you know
好吧，理解英語才能理解俄語，俄語，然後理解日語，這項工作量很大，你知道的

[11:42] a lot of work you know and then but i did and i hate it
工作量很大，你知道的，然後，但我做到了，我討厭它

[11:45] and then but i did and i hate it then i put the band together funkman for you know
然後，但我做到了，我討厭它，然後我組建了樂隊 Funkman，你知道的

[11:49] you know my mind i kept playing and what happened was about a year at the college i hate it but just skip continue
你知道的，我的腦子裡一直在玩，發生的是在大約一年的大學時間裡，我討厭它，但只是跳過繼續

[11:57] skip continue then i found the person who just got the scholarship from berkeley
跳過繼續，然後我找到了剛獲得伯克利獎學金的那個人

[12:01] berkeley a guy named koichi osamu he's a bass player
伯克利，一個叫小一治的傢伙，他是個貝斯手

[12:05] a guy named koichi osamu he's a bass player and he went to really great school kyoto kyoto university
一個叫小一治的傢伙，他是個貝斯手，他去了非常好的學校京都，京都大學

[12:13] kyoto university and i found him because a small town
京都大學，我找到他，因為一個小鎮

[12:17] and i found him because a small town and he hated me because i asked too much
我找到了他，因为一个小镇，他恨我，因为我问得太多了

[12:20] and he hated me because i asked too much question
他恨我，因为我问了太多问题

[12:23] because i go next to him um i i heard
因为我走到他身边，嗯，我听到了

[12:27] because i go next to him um i i heard you uh got a scholarship and uh i'm
因为我走到他身边，嗯，我听说你获得了奖学金，嗯，我

[12:29] you uh got a scholarship and uh i'm interested in berkeley
你获得了奖学金，嗯，我对伯克利很感兴趣

[12:30] interested in berkeley you go like practicing you know like you
对伯克利感兴趣，你就像在练习一样，你知道吗，就像你

[12:33] you go like practicing you know like you know apply-based practicing he didn't
你就像在练习一样，你知道吗，就像你知道基于应用的练习，他没有

[12:35] know apply-based practicing he didn't smile practicing
知道基于应用的练习，他没有微笑练习

[12:36] smile practicing and i just i keep asking questions
微笑练习，我只是不停地问问题

[12:39] and i just i keep asking questions he gave up he started telling me all the
我只是不停地问问题，他放弃了，他开始告诉我所有

[12:43] he gave up he started telling me all the you know what he done and then every
他放弃了，他开始告诉我所有，你知道他做了什么，然后每

[12:47] you know what he done and then every step i follow
你知道他做了什么，然后我跟着每一步

[12:49] step i follow and about a half maybe six months later
我跟着每一步，大约半年，也许六个月后

[12:53] and about a half maybe six months later he went to berkeley that
大约半年，也许六个月后，他去了伯克利，那

[12:54] he went to berkeley that was 82 i think 82 83
他去了伯克利，那是在82年，我想是82年或83年

[12:59] was 82 i think 82 83 and then this is funny too i still ask a
是82年，我想是82年或83年，然后这也很有趣，我仍然问一个

[13:02] and then this is funny too i still ask a question
然后这也很有趣，我仍然问一个问题

[13:03] question in letter sending the letter to boston
问题，在信中，寄信到波士顿

[13:08] in letter sending the letter to boston then he answered a question but then
在信中，寄信到波士顿，然后他回答了一个问题，但是

[13:11] then he answered a question but then i forgot to ask one more question that
然后他回答了一个问题，但是我忘了问另一个问题，那

[13:14] i forgot to ask one more question that takes about two weeks more
我忘了问另一个问题，那需要大约两周更多的时间

[13:16] takes about two weeks more you know that's so so that's why like
需要大约两周更多的时间，你知道，所以，所以这就是为什么

[13:19] you know that's so so that's why like you know i you know i tell people you know people email me
你知道，所以，所以这就是为什么，你知道我，你知道我告诉人们，你知道人们给我发邮件

[13:21] tell people you know people email me asking did you get the email
告诉人们，你知道人们给我发邮件问，你收到邮件了吗

[13:23] asking did you get the email well you have to wait two weeks you know
问你收到邮件了吗，嗯，你得等两周，你知道

[13:26] well you have to wait two weeks you know because that's how it is
嗯，你得等两周，你知道，因为就是这样

[13:27] because that's how it is that's what i did so you have to work on your patients
因为就是这样，我就是这么做的，所以你得努力你的耐心

[13:32] your patients wow so then from there you had the courage to audition to berkeley or
你的耐心，哇，然后从那里你有了勇气去伯克利试镜，或者

[13:38] courage to audition to berkeley or yes then yeah so convincing people to support that or did you do it
勇气去伯克利试镜，或者，是的，然后，是的，所以说服人们支持它，还是你做的

[13:44] people to support that or did you do it quietly
人们支持它，还是你悄悄做的

[13:45] quietly actually kind of secretly secretly i stopped working on it i didn't tell my parents
悄悄地，实际上有点秘密地，秘密地我停止了工作，我没告诉我父母

[13:52] and then um then that time i start taking jazz guitarism
然后，嗯，然后那个时候我开始学习爵士吉他演奏

[13:57] just because berkeley is just a school i have to have a jazz
仅仅因为伯克利只是一个学校，我必须要有爵士乐

[13:59] so i kind of know a little bit about you know chord changes but
所以我有点了解，你知道和弦变化，但是

[14:04] i still play kind of pentatonic or whatever the field i play
我仍然弹奏五声音阶或者任何我弹奏的领域

[14:08] i didn't know two five lines i didn't know theory so i found the guitar teacher named takeshi yamaguchi
我不知道二五乐句，我不知道乐理，所以我找到了吉他老师，名叫武山口

[14:14] teacher named takeshi yamaguchi in japan kyoto so he teaches very very strict you know um like
老师名叫武山口，在日本京都，所以他教得很严格，你知道，嗯，像

[14:20] strict you know um like good way you know so uh so i took his group lesson.
嚴格來說，你知道嗎，嗯，像好的方式，你知道嗎，所以，呃，所以我參加了他的團體課程。

[14:23] full lesson last last you know last week of the month.
完整的課程，上週，你知道嗎，上個月的最後一週。

[14:28] always said he said don't bring a guitar then i have to write all the notes he explained dorian scale for that.
他總是說，他說，不要帶吉他，然後我必須寫下他解釋的多利安音階的所有音符。

[14:36] three plus what i mean what's that you know like you know degrees and all that.
三加什麼，我的意思是，那是什麼，你知道嗎，你知道嗎，度數等等。

[14:40] so first thing i mean i still remember first lesson come in.
所以第一件事，我的意思是，我仍然記得第一堂課，進來。

[14:43] he plays what is this what you know like what what degree oh um plus seven okay like that you know.
他彈奏，這是什麼，你知道嗎，什麼度數，哦，嗯，加七，好的，就像那樣，你知道嗎。

[14:52] what is 13 maybe you know i don't know okay good and um i take you kind of do you know.
什麼是十三，也許，你知道嗎，我不知道，好的，好，嗯，我帶你，你知道嗎。

[15:01] then after that you know he talked interval all the mores you know everything.
然後在那之後，你知道嗎，他談到了音程，所有的更多，你知道嗎，一切。

[15:06] so here's the funny part is transcription he teach me transcription every detail what strings what finger what picking if i miss one class.
所以這裡有趣的部分是，他教我轉錄，每一個細節，什麼弦，什麼手指，什麼撥弦，如果我錯過一堂課。

[15:17] three days later i have a letter music all written.
三天后，我收到一封信，音樂，全部寫好了。

[15:21] all written fingering strings picking everything
所有書寫的指法、弦、撥弦、一切

[15:24] fingering strings picking everything also you can't miss once a year in this
指法、弦、撥弦、一切，一年一次也不能錯過這個

[15:27] also you can't miss once a year in this program you know
一年一次也不能錯過這個節目，你知道

[15:28] program you know right so he taught me how to play jazz
節目，你知道，對吧，所以他教我如何彈奏爵士樂

[15:31] right so he taught me how to play jazz guitar
對吧，所以他教我如何彈奏爵士吉他

[15:32] guitar and then um a lot of story around it but
吉他，然後嗯，圍繞著它有很多故事，但是

[15:34] and then um a lot of story around it but my karate teacher
然後嗯，圍繞著它有很多故事，但是我的空手道老師

[15:36] my karate teacher i found out that he loves jazz guitar he
我的空手道老師，我發現他喜歡爵士吉他，他

[15:39] i found out that he loves jazz guitar he loves
我發現他喜歡爵士吉他，他喜歡

[15:39] loves bunny you know bernie cassell kenny
喜歡 Bunny，你知道，Bernie Cassell，Kenny

[15:41] bunny you know bernie cassell kenny barrell he's the one
Bunny，你知道，Bernie Cassell，Kenny Barrell，他是那個

[15:43] barrell he's the one again secretly helping me
Barrell，他再次秘密地幫助我

[15:46] again secretly helping me to do this like to get the teacher get
再次秘密地幫助我做這件事，就像找到老師，得到

[15:49] to do this like to get the teacher get this idea you know
做這件事，就像找到老師，得到這個想法，你知道

[15:51] this idea you know then about one year
這個想法，你知道，然後大約一年

[15:54] then about one year actually less than one year i really
然後大約一年，實際上不到一年，我真的

[15:56] actually less than one year i really worked hard and i sent my demo tape
實際上不到一年，我真的努力工作，寄出了我的試聽帶

[15:58] worked hard and i sent my demo tape and at the same time i studied english
努力工作，寄出了我的試聽帶，同時我學習英語

[16:00] and at the same time i studied english too
同時我也學習英語

[16:01] too i went to english school and i made a
我也去了英語學校，我交了

[16:04] i went to english school and i made a friends an english teacher
我去了英語學校，我交了朋友，一個英語老師

[16:05] friends an english teacher so then we become friends so i didn't
朋友，一個英語老師，所以我們成了朋友，所以我不用

[16:07] so then we become friends so i didn't have to pay for the english you know
所以我們成了朋友，所以我不用付英語學費，你知道

[16:09] have to pay for the english you know we kind of teach it you know and then i
不用付英語學費，你知道，我們互相教，你知道，然後我

[16:12] we kind of teach it you know and then i send a demo tape to berkeley
我們互相教，你知道，然後我寄了一份試聽帶到伯克利

[16:14] send a demo tape to berkeley and i i got scholarship
寄了一份試聽帶到伯克利，我得到了獎學金

[16:19] and this is back in um
這是在嗯

[16:22] and this is back in um 84 1984.
這是回到84年，1984年。

[16:25] 84 1984. i got a scholarship from berkeley uh
84年，1984年。我獲得了柏克萊大學的獎學金，呃

[16:28] i got a scholarship from berkeley uh 2500
我獲得了柏克萊大學的獎學金，呃，2500

[16:30] 2500 i think from berkeley and then i forgot
2500，我想是來自柏克萊大學，然後我忘了

[16:33] i think from berkeley and then i forgot how many
我想是來自柏克萊大學，然後我忘了有多少

[16:34] how many yeah something like you know 2500 from
多少，是的，大概是，你知道，2500來自

[16:37] yeah something like you know 2500 from berkeley
是的，大概是，你知道，2500來自柏克萊大學

[16:37] berkeley two it is a twenty twenty five hundred
柏克萊大學，二是，是兩千五百

[16:40] two it is a twenty twenty five hundred then two thousand from
二是，是兩千五百，然後兩千來自

[16:41] then two thousand from something between japanese japanese and
然後兩千來自日語、日語和之間的東西

[16:44] something between japanese japanese and japan and berkeley something like
日語、日語和日本以及柏克萊大學之間的東西，類似於

[16:45] japan and berkeley something like that and i have a two hundred dollars
日本和柏克萊大學，類似於那樣，我還有兩百美元

[16:48] that and i have a two hundred dollars about columbia just
那個，我還有兩百美元，關於哥倫比亞大學，只是

[16:50] about columbia just this is kind of funny too you know i got
關於哥倫比亞大學，這也很有趣，你知道我得到了

[16:51] this is kind of funny too you know i got the old just so john about colombia i
這也很有趣，你知道我得到了那個，只是關於哥倫比亞大學，我

[16:53] the old just so john about colombia i have no idea who is john ababa
那個，只是關於哥倫比亞大學，我不知道約翰·阿巴巴是誰

[16:55] have no idea who is john ababa back then yeah but then i got a
不知道約翰·阿巴巴是誰，當時，是的，但然後我得到了一個

[16:58] scholarship and then back then one semester was 2000
獎學金，然後當時一個學期是2000

[16:59] scholarship and then back then one semester was 2000 or 1700 1750 i think
獎學金，然後當時一個學期是2000或1700，我想是1750

[17:03] or 1700 1750 i think yeah wow so i thought okay i can do it
或1700，我想是1750，是的，哇，所以我想，好吧，我可以做到

[17:07] yeah wow so i thought okay i can do it and then scholarship was
是的，哇，所以我想，好吧，我可以做到，然後獎學金是

[17:10] and then scholarship was available within two years so i decided
然後獎學金在兩年內可用，所以我決定

[17:13] available within two years so i decided 84 to 86 i work to get my living
兩年內可用，所以我決定，84年到86年，我工作來維持生計

[17:17] 84 to 86 i work to get my living expenses
84年到86年，我工作來支付我的生活費

[17:22] expenses wow so once i got discussed i said
費用哇，所以一旦我討論了，我說

[17:26] wow so once i got discussed i said i can schedule my mother my father i
哇，所以一旦我討論了，我說我可以安排我的母親，我的父親，我

[17:28] i can schedule my mother my father i sorry i quit
我可以安排我的母親，我的父親，我對不起，我辭職了

[17:30] sorry i quit ah yeah then he said they said okay
對不起，我辭職了，啊，是的，然後他說他們說好的

[17:33] ah yeah then he said they said okay wow i mean so you were studying at one
啊，是的，然後他說他們說好的，哇，我的意思是，所以你在一個時期學習

[17:36] wow i mean so you were studying at one point there
哇，我的意思是，所以你在那裡學習了一段時間

[17:37] point there russian in college yes and other
在那裡學習俄語的大學，是的，還有其他

[17:40] russian in college yes and other subjects yes then you were studying
俄語的大學，是的，還有其他科目，是的，然後你在學習

[17:43] subjects yes then you were studying english separately
科目，是的，然後你在分別學習英語

[17:44] english separately to get ready to come to the united
英語分開準備來美國

[17:45] to get ready to come to the united states you're studying karate
準備來美國，你正在學習空手道

[17:47] states you're studying karate right and you were practicing jazz
美國，你正在學習空手道，對嗎？你正在練習爵士樂

[17:49] right and you were practicing jazz guitar and funk guitar and you had a
對，你正在練習爵士吉他、放克吉他，你還有一個

[17:51] guitar and funk guitar and you had a band
吉他、放克吉他，你還有一個樂隊

[17:52] band yeah so that's a tremendous work ethic
樂隊，是的，所以這是一種極大的職業道德

[17:55] yeah so that's a tremendous work ethic for a young person and then you had your
是的，所以這對一個年輕人來說是一種極大的職業道德，然後你有了你的

[17:59] for a young person and then you had your goal
對於一個年輕人來說，然後你有了你的目標

[17:59] goal set up in in in public you had one
目標公開設立，你有一個

[18:02] set up in in in public you had one pursuit
公開設立，你追求一個

[18:03] pursuit of an undergraduate degree then in
追求學士學位，然後

[18:05] of an undergraduate degree then in secret you had another pursuit of this
學士學位，然後秘密地你還有另一個追求

[18:07] secret you had another pursuit of this audition and then once you
秘密地你還有另一個追求這次試鏡，然後一旦你

[18:08] audition and then once you achieved that goal of getting the
試鏡，然後一旦你實現了獲得獎學金的目標

[18:10] achieved that goal of getting the scholarship then you had a plan
實現了獲得獎學金的目標，然後你就有了一個計劃

[18:12] scholarship then you had a plan for the finances yeah that's right yeah
獎學金，然後你就有了一個財務計劃，是的，沒錯，是的

[18:15] for the finances yeah that's right yeah and so
財務方面，是的，沒錯，是的，所以

[18:16] and so that's a tremendous work ethic that you
所以這是一種你培養出的極大的職業道德

[18:19] that's a tremendous work ethic that you developed
這是一種你培養出的極大的職業道德

[18:20] developed i did yeah and yeah how you know do you
培養出來的，是的，是的，你怎麼知道，你

[18:23] i did yeah and yeah how you know do you think
我做了，是的，是的，你怎麼知道，你認為

[18:24] think obviously that is something that
認為顯然那是某種東西

[18:26] obviously that is something that translates in every part of your life
顯然那是某種東西，它會轉化到你生活的每一個部分

[18:28] translates in every part of your life and so when you came to berkeley and you
轉化到你生活的每一個部分，所以當你來到伯克利，而你

[18:30] and so when you came to berkeley and you were a music student and then
所以當你來到伯克利，而你是一名音樂學生，然後

[18:33] were a music student and then when you went into these parts of your
是一名音樂學生，然後當你進入你職業生涯的這些部分

[18:35] when you went into these parts of your career yeah
當你進入你職業生涯的這些部分，是的

[18:36] career yeah this obviously is something you took
職業生涯，是的，這顯然是你帶走的東西

[18:37] this obviously is something you took with you and continued to develop like
這顯然是你帶走並繼續發展的東西，就像

[18:39] with you and continued to develop like that kind of
帶走並繼續發展的東西，就像那種

[18:40] that kind of right yeah i oh i think all i always
那種，對，是的，我，哦，我認為我一直

[18:43] right yeah i oh i think all i always think
對，是的，我，哦，我認為我一直認為

[18:44] think i'm good at it how to pacing my time
我擅長如何安排我的時間

[18:47] i'm good at it how to pacing my time planning planning you know yeah almost a
我擅長如何安排我的時間，規劃，規劃，你知道，是的，幾乎是一個

[18:50] planning planning you know yeah almost a planner yeah
規劃，規劃，你知道，是的，幾乎是一個規劃師，是的

[18:51] planner yeah but the reason is up till
規劃師，是的，但原因是直到

[18:55] but the reason is up till up till i was 13 i had
但原因是直到，直到我13歲，我有

[18:58] up till i was 13 i had i have no desire anything i don't i
直到我13歲，我有，我沒有任何慾望，我不，我

[19:01] i have no desire anything i don't i don't like sports i don't like
我沒有任何慾望，我不，我不喜歡運動，我不喜歡

[19:03] don't like sports i don't like i don't really like any music yet you
不喜歡運動，我不喜歡，我還不太喜歡任何音樂，你

[19:06] i don't really like any music yet you know so
我還不太喜歡任何音樂，你知道，所以

[19:06] know so i was just almost like uh almost like uh
知道，所以我就幾乎像，呃，幾乎像，呃

[19:11] i was just almost like uh almost like uh it's really funny to explain almost no
我就幾乎像，呃，幾乎像，呃，這真的很有趣，解釋幾乎沒有

[19:14] it's really funny to explain almost no desire
這真的很有趣，解釋幾乎沒有慾望

[19:15] desire and no direction it just almost a bubble
慾望和沒有方向，它幾乎就像一個泡泡

[19:18] and no direction it just almost a bubble it's just kind of
和沒有方向，它幾乎就像一個泡泡，它只是有點

[19:19] it's just kind of floating not doing anything and i
它只是有點漂浮著，什麼也不做，而我

[19:22] floating not doing anything and i i didn't like myself about being there
漂浮著，什麼也不做，而我，我不喜歡在那裡的自己

[19:25] i didn't like myself about being there because some people really enjoy sports
我对自己在那里感到不满意，因为有些人真的很喜欢运动

[19:27] because some people really enjoy sports but i just don't
因为有些人真的很喜欢运动，但我就是不喜欢

[19:29] but i just don't like sports you know so i just don't i
但我就是不喜欢运动，你知道吗，所以我就是不

[19:32] like sports you know so i just don't i try to you know
喜欢运动，你知道吗，所以我就是不，我试着，你知道

[19:33] try to you know basketball the baseball but i'm not good
试着，你知道，篮球，棒球，但我不好

[19:35] basketball the baseball but i'm not good at whis ball you know so i
篮球，棒球，但我不好玩球，你知道，所以我

[19:37] at whis ball you know so i so everybody in japan does everything
玩球，你知道，所以我，所以日本的每个人都做所有事情

[19:39] so everybody in japan does everything kind of one way
所以日本的每个人都以一种方式做所有事情

[19:40] kind of one way and then they respect it that way if i
以一种方式，然后他们就那样尊重它，如果我

[19:42] and then they respect it that way if i don't do it they they
然后他们就那样尊重它，如果我不这样做，他们他们

[19:44] don't do it they they did kind of a you know put you know kind
不这样做，他们他们做了一种，你知道，放，你知道，一种

[19:47] did kind of a you know put you know kind of wrong spot
做了一种，你知道，放，你知道，一种错误的位置

[19:49] of wrong spot you know i mean actually i had a little
错误的位置，你知道，我的意思是，实际上我有一点

[19:51] you know i mean actually i had a little bit of when i was elementary school i
你知道，我的意思是，实际上我有一点，当我上小学的时候，我

[19:53] bit of when i was elementary school i had a little bit um
点，当我上小学的时候，我有一点点嗯

[19:55] had a little bit um like bully kind of thing people didn't
有一点点嗯，像欺凌一样的事情，人们不喜欢

[19:57] like bully kind of thing people didn't like me because i don't really fit in
像欺凌一样的事情，人们不喜欢我，因为我真的不合群

[19:59] like me because i don't really fit in the
喜欢我，因为我真的不合群

[20:00] the group right and i had a hard time with
团体，对吧，我很难适应

[20:03] group right and i had a hard time with that
团体，对吧，我很难适应那

[20:04] that yeah and then express myself music and
那，是的，然后我用音乐表达自己，而

[20:07] yeah and then express myself music and that's that's not a real good thing
是的，然后我用音乐表达自己，而那不是一件真正的好事

[20:09] that's that's not a real good thing back in the early 80s you know
那不是一件真正的好事，你知道，在80年代早期

[20:11] back in the early 80s you know especially
在80年代早期，你知道，尤其

[20:13] especially um elementary school high school
尤其，嗯，小学，高中

[20:15] um elementary school high school everybody wanted to do it
嗯，小学，高中，每个人都想做

[20:16] everybody wanted to do it same thing okay yeah so that was kind of
每个人都想做同样的事情，好的，是的，所以那有点

[20:19] same thing okay yeah so that was kind of hard time you know
同样的事情，好的，是的，所以那有点难熬，你知道

[20:20] hard time you know but then then once i found the guitar
难熬，你知道，但然后，一旦我找到了吉他

[20:23] but then then once i found the guitar i really like this
但然后，一旦我找到了吉他，我真的很喜欢这个

[20:26] i really like this i really like this almost like i just

[20:29] i really like this almost like i just want to always go back to listen to

[20:31] want to always go back to listen to records or playing

[20:33] records or playing i still remember my mother said hey it's

[20:35] i still remember my mother said hey it's dinner it's a dinner

[20:37] dinner it's a dinner wait wait wait you know i have to get

[20:39] wait wait wait you know i have to get this voicemail sorry you know before i

[20:41] this voicemail sorry you know before i get to dinner you know

[20:42] get to dinner you know and after the dinner he really quick you

[20:45] and after the dinner he really quick you know to go back again listen again like

[20:47] know to go back again listen again like that

[20:47] that just every day is more like you know

[20:51] just every day is more like you know it's a good expression one of my high

[20:53] it's a good expression one of my high school student

[20:55] school student um said it okay uh

[20:58] um said it okay uh what happened is i had one really great

[21:01] what happened is i had one really great you know stu

[21:02] you know stu you know friends of high school and he

[21:03] you know friends of high school and he plays guitar as a hobby but i was really

[21:06] plays guitar as a hobby but i was really getting more

[21:07] getting more you know into it and then i got a um

[21:11] you know into it and then i got a um i i got into you know college with

[21:14] i i got into you know college with russian but then this you know my friend

[21:16] russian but then this you know my friend he

[21:17] he he didn't get in the college so

[21:18] he didn't get in the college so basically

[21:20] basically one year he's you know stayed

[21:23] one year he's you know stayed just you know studying to get to the

[21:25] just you know studying to get to the place he wanted to be

[21:26] place he wanted to be so we always hang out the weekend and um

[21:31] so we always hang out the weekend and um he said um you work like a soldier

[21:35] he said um you work like a soldier that's he always said he's just work

[21:38] that's he always said he's just work like a soldier just so you just do it

[21:40] like a soldier just so you just do it just almost no i mean

[21:42] just almost no i mean not the known feeling but just almost no

[21:44] not the known feeling but just almost no no no hesitation to do it

[21:46] no no hesitation to do it he always says amazing you can do that

[21:51] he always says amazing you can do that you feel like you still do it right i

[21:54] you feel like you still do it right i still do yeah

[21:56] still do yeah yeah and i actually i i calm down a

[21:58] yeah and i actually i i calm down a little bit

[22:01] yeah well you know hand in hand with

[22:05] yeah well you know hand in hand with that

[22:05] that um what came up for me is you talked

[22:08] um what came up for me is you talked about a teacher that you had that was

[22:09] about a teacher that you had that was really compassionate with you

[22:11] really compassionate with you yes i feel like

[22:15] yes i feel like the students know you in two ways they

[22:17] the students know you in two ways they know you for for

[22:18] know you for for being just just like a joyful like

[22:22] being just just like a joyful like constant practicer you know

[22:23] constant practicer you know you're constantly inspiring them to keep

[22:26] you're constantly inspiring them to keep practicing and you are always

[22:28] practicing and you are always learning something new and then i think

[22:29] learning something new and then i think they do know you also for

[22:31] they do know you also for showing them that kind of compassion

[22:33] showing them that kind of compassion then um

[22:34] then um one way and specific that i always

[22:37] one way and specific that i always remember is you have these picks

[22:39] remember is you have these picks oh yes your students can you can you

[22:41] oh yes your students can you can you talk a little bit about the influence of

[22:42] talk a little bit about the influence of that teacher and then about these picks

[22:44] that teacher and then about these picks yeah yeah well yeah i have this yeah

[22:48] yeah yeah well yeah i have this yeah well

[22:50] yeah like you know i think we all like

[22:54] yeah like you know i think we all like to teach

[22:54] to teach excellent teach you know great part of

[22:57] excellent teach you know great part of music

[22:58] music life and everything but then sometimes

[23:00] life and everything but then sometimes before we learn

[23:01] before we learn everybody has personality so that

[23:05] everybody has personality so that personality is kind of getting away to

[23:07] personality is kind of getting away to not uh

[23:08] not uh able to learn so pushing see i push a

[23:12] able to learn so pushing see i push a lot myself right go

[23:13] lot myself right go go go go you know and i did that a

[23:14] go go go you know and i did that a little bit with my students and some

[23:16] little bit with my students and some students got

[23:16] students got really scared you know because it's too

[23:18] really scared you know because it's too much you know too much passion too much

[23:21] much you know too much passion too much more

[23:21] more so i just decided to do like you know

[23:23] so i just decided to do like you know figuring out

[23:24] figuring out this one first thing don't worry

[23:27] this one first thing don't worry don't worry just don't worry just

[23:29] don't worry just don't worry just because first if you worry that's

[23:31] because first if you worry that's already it's not good so don't worry

[23:33] already it's not good so don't worry and next one once you know what to do

[23:37] and next one once you know what to do and this is what you do you compare with

[23:40] and this is what you do you compare with other students

[23:41] other students right so i said don't compare just don't

[23:44] right so i said don't compare just don't compare because

[23:45] compare because it's just my my mother said if you look

[23:47] it's just my my mother said if you look up if you do down it's not

[23:48] up if you do down it's not no end no no no need to have a

[23:52] no end no no no need to have a discussion about who's better who's bad

[23:54] discussion about who's better who's bad you know because

[23:56] you know because you have to do what you need to do and

[23:58] you have to do what you need to do and then if you do

[24:00] then if you do no work then this is how smart people

[24:04] no work then this is how smart people don't expect too fast

[24:08] don't expect too fast you know because once you're smart and

[24:10] you know because once you're smart and you work hard you

[24:11] you work hard you expect too much so don't expect too hard

[24:14] expect too much so don't expect too hard in too much you know too fast and then

[24:17] in too much you know too fast and then always

[24:18] always i think this one important be kind to

[24:20] i think this one important be kind to yourself because i

[24:21] yourself because i i i kind of hurt myself you know

[24:25] i i kind of hurt myself you know pushing me push myself you know because

[24:27] pushing me push myself you know because i always think i work many hours next

[24:29] i always think i work many hours next day

[24:30] day not enough you know that's the worst

[24:32] not enough you know that's the worst feeling and i think that's

[24:34] feeling and i think that's not good you know i mean for a while i

[24:36] not good you know i mean for a while i was doing like that but i think no good

[24:38] was doing like that but i think no good so i said

[24:39] so i said it's all all good you know i want to say

[24:42] it's all all good you know i want to say for people who are listening to this and

[24:43] for people who are listening to this and not watching it

[24:44] not watching it what tomo did was he wrote those

[24:46] what tomo did was he wrote those reminders they're actually printed

[24:48] reminders they're actually printed on guitar picks yeah and they have his

[24:51] on guitar picks yeah and they have his logo on them and then there's these four

[24:52] logo on them and then there's these four reminders and tomo

[24:54] reminders and tomo if people want to have those reminders

[24:56] if people want to have those reminders they can get those from you

[24:58] they can get those from you yeah well i mean pick boys sell these

[25:00] yeah well i mean pick boys sell these yeah that's great and

[25:01] yeah that's great and actually i can um this is one of the

[25:04] actually i can um this is one of the student um

[25:06] student um can you see yeah it's a letter from a

[25:09] can you see yeah it's a letter from a student a handwritten

[25:10] student a handwritten yeah that's called tomo's advice yeah

[25:13] yeah that's called tomo's advice yeah this is um

[25:17] you know i oh you see this pic came from

[25:20] you know i oh you see this pic came from this paper actually

[25:22] this paper actually oh wow because he's saying play with

[25:23] oh wow because he's saying play with feeling don't compare

[25:25] feeling don't compare yeah and i always say that but i didn't

[25:27] yeah and i always say that but i didn't realize i always said that to everybody

[25:30] realize i always said that to everybody do you know what i mean so like this one

[25:34] do you know what i mean so like this one came from owen you know my one of my

[25:36] came from owen you know my one of my students you know

[25:37] students you know he's at the berkeley now and uh he said

[25:40] he's at the berkeley now and uh he said happy birthday thank you for everything

[25:42] happy birthday thank you for everything and he gave me this

[25:43] and he gave me this cool right yeah so yeah yeah then after

[25:47] cool right yeah so yeah yeah then after that like you know i thought okay this

[25:48] that like you know i thought okay this is

[25:48] is actually do make a pick and then people

[25:51] actually do make a pick and then people like you know

[25:52] like you know kind of a you know great gift to

[25:55] kind of a you know great gift to something oops sorry you know a great

[25:57] something oops sorry you know a great gift to you know somebody who you

[26:00] gift to you know somebody who you you care about you know i thought that's

[26:01] you care about you know i thought that's kind of cool you know yeah i think

[26:02] kind of cool you know yeah i think that's cool that you learned that from

[26:04] that's cool that you learned that from your students

[26:05] your students you learned something about your

[26:06] you learned something about your teaching from your student that's right

[26:08] teaching from your student that's right yeah yeah that's that's great

[26:10] yeah yeah that's that's great about the teaching is that teaching is

[26:11] about the teaching is that teaching is not like i know everything

[26:14] not like i know everything and then i'm better than you just almost

[26:16] and then i'm better than you just almost like we are equal

[26:18] like we are equal you know as a human but then i kind of

[26:21] you know as a human but then i kind of know a little bit more than

[26:22] know a little bit more than you know my students and the students

[26:24] you know my students and the students know more than something i don't know

[26:26] know more than something i don't know you know so

[26:27] you know so we basically work together and then you

[26:30] we basically work together and then you know be kind to each other you know

[26:31] know be kind to each other you know that's

[26:32] that's that's the key you know yeah so that's

[26:34] that's the key you know yeah so that's why yes

[26:35] why yes exactly what you say i learned from my

[26:37] exactly what you say i learned from my students and then these came up from my

[26:39] students and then these came up from my student

[26:40] student because that's what i say but you know

[26:41] because that's what i say but you know yeah so

[26:43] yeah so i think this is the perfect time ian has

[26:45] i think this is the perfect time ian has a question that he asks every time

[26:47] a question that he asks every time okay and since you're talking about

[26:49] okay and since you're talking about students

[26:51] students and uh learning from them um when people

[26:54] and uh learning from them um when people learn from you

[26:56] learn from you they they may not know what to ask right

[26:58] they they may not know what to ask right away and uh ian what comes

[27:00] away and uh ian what comes from you yeah so i mean here's

[27:03] from you yeah so i mean here's you know a thing that i've been asking

[27:05] you know a thing that i've been asking everybody which is

[27:06] everybody which is what's something that you know in your

[27:09] what's something that you know in your experience is both

[27:10] experience is both a student coming to berkeley and as a

[27:13] a student coming to berkeley and as a somebody who's

[27:14] somebody who's taught so many studentses yes what's the

[27:16] taught so many studentses yes what's the thing that students

[27:18] thing that students should begin to think about or what's

[27:20] should begin to think about or what's the question they should ask

[27:22] the question they should ask that they don't yet know to ask i say i

[27:24] that they don't yet know to ask i say i see

[27:25] see yeah okay i think everyone

[27:28] yeah okay i think everyone should have a question written more like

[27:31] should have a question written more like you know

[27:32] you know this is opportunity you can ask anything

[27:35] this is opportunity you can ask anything you can ask

[27:36] you can ask literally anything besides the guitar

[27:38] literally anything besides the guitar really because that's a private lesson

[27:40] really because that's a private lesson you can ask anything

[27:41] you can ask anything so sometimes you know beginning of

[27:44] so sometimes you know beginning of lesson

[27:45] lesson you know so how's everything good so um

[27:48] you know so how's everything good so um what have we been doing i ask you know

[27:50] what have we been doing i ask you know some time and then do you have any

[27:51] some time and then do you have any questions

[27:52] questions any requests for today anything and

[27:54] any requests for today anything and sometimes

[27:55] sometimes i don't know i don't think about it and

[27:58] i don't know i don't think about it and then i said

[27:59] then i said why not this is listen you know you're

[28:01] why not this is listen you know you're looking forward to right yeah

[28:03] looking forward to right yeah but then you know you can participate

[28:06] but then you know you can participate more before

[28:07] more before you know so it's hard it's hard because

[28:11] you know so it's hard it's hard because almost like even question you have to

[28:13] almost like even question you have to you know understand what can i ask or

[28:15] you know understand what can i ask or what to do

[28:16] what to do so yeah so uh it's a good question

[28:21] so yeah so uh it's a good question i have to ask them beforehand you know

[28:24] i have to ask them beforehand you know do you have anything

[28:25] do you have anything you know yeah so that's what i do

[28:28] you know yeah so that's what i do usually

[28:29] usually open up a little bit so that um see like

[28:32] open up a little bit so that um see like some people

[28:33] some people very shy then if i go like this

[28:36] very shy then if i go like this how was the week good okay do you have

[28:38] how was the week good okay do you have any question

[28:40] any question no okay so let me do this way see if i

[28:42] no okay so let me do this way see if i do that

[28:43] do that i'm just pushing there too much my

[28:44] i'm just pushing there too much my opinion already to me so i just want to

[28:46] opinion already to me so i just want to have

[28:47] have peop you know like room like if i talk

[28:51] peop you know like room like if i talk and i try to do this one when i do i

[28:53] and i try to do this one when i do i talk i mean right now it's like you know

[28:55] talk i mean right now it's like you know this i talk about

[28:56] this i talk about i talk and i wait almost the same amount

[28:59] i talk and i wait almost the same amount that's i think a good for music because

[29:00] that's i think a good for music because i play a little bit

[29:01] i play a little bit and somebody play a little bit so we

[29:03] and somebody play a little bit so we have call on response you know

[29:05] have call on response you know and that's what i try to do in a lesson

[29:09] and that's what i try to do in a lesson so if somebody talk i just not say

[29:11] so if somebody talk i just not say anything

[29:13] anything same thing if somebody play i just don't

[29:16] same thing if somebody play i just don't say anything i just wait

[29:20] like if somebody jamming like this i

[29:22] like if somebody jamming like this i just wait

[29:24] just wait and then sometimes students go what i

[29:27] and then sometimes students go what i didn't say anything you you're saying

[29:28] didn't say anything you you're saying i'm just listening

[29:30] i'm just listening oh i didn't know ah ah you know like

[29:33] oh i didn't know ah ah you know like that

[29:33] that and i say what what what you were doing

[29:36] and i say what what what you were doing i was

[29:37] i was i was just noodling around

[29:40] i was just noodling around well if it's a lesson don't you think

[29:43] well if it's a lesson don't you think you have to think something to ask or

[29:46] you have to think something to ask or something to do

[29:47] something to do oh yeah yeah yeah you know like that you

[29:49] oh yeah yeah yeah you know like that you know kind of funny funny conversation

[29:52] know kind of funny funny conversation so you're asking them basically to take

[29:54] so you're asking them basically to take some responsibility in the lesson

[29:56] some responsibility in the lesson yeah learn like yes in other words yeah

[29:59] yeah learn like yes in other words yeah i definitely i have a responsibility to

[30:01] i definitely i have a responsibility to teach

[30:01] teach everything what i know but they have to

[30:04] everything what i know but they have to really

[30:05] really ask me what they want to know so that

[30:08] ask me what they want to know so that student basically gets

[30:12] student basically gets things from me more than i know

[30:15] things from me more than i know sometimes maybe you know trigger to you

[30:18] sometimes maybe you know trigger to you know

[30:18] know okay think about something then then i i

[30:21] okay think about something then then i i think and it

[30:22] think and it that that's great about i think you know

[30:25] that that's great about i think you know one-on-one lesson even virtually i think

[30:29] one-on-one lesson even virtually i think because every week i

[30:30] because every week i i i um and this

[30:34] i i um and this you know this is the kind of secret like

[30:35] you know this is the kind of secret like you know my secret is that

[30:38] you know my secret is that um i have a notebook for less

[30:42] um i have a notebook for less so berkeley lesson after i teach one

[30:44] so berkeley lesson after i teach one week i always write

[30:46] week i always write what one week each what topic was really

[30:48] what one week each what topic was really good i have

[30:51] good i have so this way i can recycle that topic to

[30:54] so this way i can recycle that topic to a little bit more detail so that i have

[30:57] a little bit more detail so that i have as a i have i could have as a lesson

[31:00] as a i have i could have as a lesson like a good one

[31:01] like a good one you know something like that yeah and so

[31:04] you know something like that yeah and so that really helping me and then yeah

[31:07] that really helping me and then yeah like

[31:08] like exactly i have to i have to ask and

[31:11] exactly i have to i have to ask and participate

[31:12] participate and then i have to make them

[31:13] and then i have to make them responsibility just like i

[31:15] responsibility just like i i used to do you know always a goal

[31:18] i used to do you know always a goal yeah you know tomo that i i love all

[31:21] yeah you know tomo that i i love all these things that you're talking about

[31:23] these things that you're talking about and they're really um really deep

[31:27] and they're really um really deep things in the way we connect with our

[31:29] things in the way we connect with our students and i think um

[31:31] students and i think um you know as kim said like you know they

[31:33] you know as kim said like you know they have this responsibility

[31:35] have this responsibility too and i think some maybe and maybe

[31:38] too and i think some maybe and maybe it's

[31:39] it's i don't know you know i can't speak

[31:41] i don't know you know i can't speak about 20 years ago but you know i think

[31:43] about 20 years ago but you know i think sometimes there's a thing with students

[31:44] sometimes there's a thing with students come in and they think just

[31:46] come in and they think just being there is it right they

[31:49] being there is it right they they've done it you know that's that's

[31:52] they've done it you know that's that's and but

[31:53] and but when i exp i try to explain to students

[31:55] when i exp i try to explain to students that when you ask a question

[31:57] that when you ask a question well you know especially in a class

[31:59] well you know especially in a class probably there are five other people

[32:01] probably there are five other people that are the same question but they're

[32:02] that are the same question but they're too shy to ask so you're

[32:04] too shy to ask so you're probably helping out a bunch of other

[32:06] probably helping out a bunch of other people but you're really helping

[32:07] people but you're really helping yourself out

[32:08] yourself out yeah yes but you're also helping the

[32:10] yeah yes but you're also helping the teacher

[32:11] teacher and they don't realize that because you

[32:13] and they don't realize that because you know when a student

[32:15] know when a student starts to ask me a question then i then

[32:17] starts to ask me a question then i then i understand

[32:19] i understand yes deeper what they need help with

[32:22] yes deeper what they need help with and it opens a doorway so i always tell

[32:24] and it opens a doorway so i always tell them that like

[32:25] them that like you actually when you're asking that

[32:27] you actually when you're asking that question there are all these levels

[32:30] question there are all these levels that you're opening up for

[32:33] that you're opening up for yourself obviously like you're going to

[32:35] yourself obviously like you're going to come all this way

[32:36] come all this way like here or you coming all the way from

[32:38] like here or you coming all the way from japan or wherever people come from they

[32:40] japan or wherever people come from they come a long way

[32:41] come a long way to be here don't miss that opportunity

[32:43] to be here don't miss that opportunity like here you can sit with tomo or you

[32:45] like here you can sit with tomo or you could sit

[32:46] could sit in perlac or you could sit with ian

[32:47] in perlac or you could sit with ian steed or any of these people and ask

[32:50] steed or any of these people and ask a question and yeah and so

[32:53] a question and yeah and so many times people think oh yeah again

[32:55] many times people think oh yeah again though that will be a stupid question

[32:57] though that will be a stupid question or whatever but when they really you get

[32:59] or whatever but when they really you get them to realize like

[33:00] them to realize like actually yeah it is your responsibility

[33:02] actually yeah it is your responsibility for yourself and for

[33:04] for yourself and for all of us right it really helps all of

[33:06] all of us right it really helps all of us helps me do my job better

[33:09] us helps me do my job better that's right when that door is open

[33:10] that's right when that door is open right yeah i think it's so like to me

[33:13] right yeah i think it's so like to me private lesson especially it's not so

[33:15] private lesson especially it's not so much

[33:16] much how much knowledge i have or how much

[33:18] how much knowledge i have or how much knowledge i get have to give it to

[33:20] knowledge i get have to give it to each student almost like i have to work

[33:22] each student almost like i have to work with each one

[33:24] with each one deeper communication that's my job you

[33:26] deeper communication that's my job you know

[33:27] know then i i i ask each students to

[33:32] then i i i ask each students to you know get into that you know

[33:34] you know get into that you know direction

[33:35] direction and yes um

[33:38] and yes um like you know um like you said um

[33:41] like you know um like you said um sometimes students

[33:42] sometimes students really don't know how to ask a question

[33:45] really don't know how to ask a question and that's

[33:46] and that's totally fine so i have to tell them

[33:48] totally fine so i have to tell them sometime

[33:49] sometime just don't be hesitate like you know ask

[33:52] just don't be hesitate like you know ask anything

[33:52] anything because something sometimes

[33:55] because something sometimes you know question is wrong so that

[33:59] you know question is wrong so that you just don't get the answer for

[34:01] you just don't get the answer for example

[34:02] example typical question ask you get better at

[34:04] typical question ask you get better at asking yeah exactly

[34:06] asking yeah exactly until you kind of refine it yeah yeah

[34:08] until you kind of refine it yeah yeah yeah just like a play phrase

[34:09] yeah just like a play phrase you know you know you know good phrase

[34:11] you know you know you know good phrase but you know knows it too long you know

[34:14] but you know knows it too long you know something like that then gradually you

[34:15] something like that then gradually you understand so many cut you know

[34:17] understand so many cut you know duration their shorter is better our

[34:19] duration their shorter is better our rhythm same thing that you know question

[34:21] rhythm same thing that you know question most of you know common question so what

[34:23] most of you know common question so what are you thinking going

[34:24] are you thinking going playing so that's the wrong question to

[34:27] playing so that's the wrong question to me because

[34:28] me because are you asking when are practicing or am

[34:30] are you asking when are practicing or am i performing but two different things

[34:33] i performing but two different things so if i play i think about food i think

[34:37] so if i play i think about food i think about something else you know but then

[34:39] about something else you know but then when i practice i think

[34:40] when i practice i think every detail and other questions people

[34:43] every detail and other questions people say

[34:43] say so should i think degree

[34:47] so should i think degree or domicile you know notes

[34:50] or domicile you know notes like that already you answer everything

[34:53] like that already you answer everything you say you have to do everything

[34:57] like that so okay anything you think

[35:00] like that so okay anything you think good question you do it right unless

[35:03] good question you do it right unless you get hurt i don't think you get hurt

[35:06] you get hurt i don't think you get hurt you know what i mean if you do like this

[35:07] you know what i mean if you do like this like you know then you know i had oh

[35:09] like you know then you know i had oh don't do it but i think like you know

[35:11] don't do it but i think like you know thinking about the nose

[35:13] thinking about the nose you know right because that question

[35:16] you know right because that question they're almost asking you

[35:17] they're almost asking you to get out of doing something and you're

[35:19] to get out of doing something and you're telling that's our responsibility you're

[35:21] telling that's our responsibility you're responsible for

[35:22] responsible for all yeah yeah i think so just so for

[35:25] all yeah yeah i think so just so for example like a

[35:26] example like a good one like you know always you know

[35:27] good one like you know always you know fan ask so how was john mayer

[35:30] fan ask so how was john mayer right why do you need to ask how is john

[35:33] right why do you need to ask how is john mayer

[35:34] mayer you have to be better than him you know

[35:37] you have to be better than him you know you have to work hard on this

[35:38] you have to work hard on this but these people kind of expecting me to

[35:40] but these people kind of expecting me to say john was okay

[35:42] say john was okay he's just a regular guy you know he's

[35:44] he's just a regular guy you know he's lucky

[35:45] lucky you know something like that right i can

[35:48] you know something like that right i can be lucky you know

[35:49] be lucky you know yeah yeah you know it's interesting

[35:51] yeah yeah you know it's interesting because a lot of people know you because

[35:53] because a lot of people know you because they know that you taught john for

[35:56] they know that you taught john for a while yeah john mayer and they also

[35:59] a while yeah john mayer and they also know you

[36:00] know you as a player um what are some of the

[36:03] as a player um what are some of the things you think that

[36:05] things you think that you learned um as a student that you

[36:09] you learned um as a student that you that you always think about you know

[36:11] that you always think about you know that

[36:12] that you know what i'm saying like were there

[36:13] you know what i'm saying like were there things where you were a student and now

[36:15] things where you were a student and now that you're a teacher and a

[36:17] that you're a teacher and a player yeah these are the little moments

[36:20] player yeah these are the little moments of learning that you

[36:21] of learning that you took with you and then maybe passed on

[36:22] took with you and then maybe passed on to some of your students

[36:24] to some of your students yeah and you're watching them kind of

[36:26] yeah and you're watching them kind of take that forward

[36:27] take that forward yeah like you know each teacher teaches

[36:30] yeah like you know each teacher teaches different things you know like

[36:31] different things you know like um i studied with bruce arnold you know

[36:35] um i studied with bruce arnold you know when i'm student

[36:36] when i'm student he taught me more modal stuff and uh

[36:40] he taught me more modal stuff and uh but funny bruce arnold the reason is i i

[36:43] but funny bruce arnold the reason is i i wanted to study charlie barakas but

[36:44] wanted to study charlie barakas but i called charity banakas they said you

[36:46] i called charity banakas they said you have to wait two years i say i'm not

[36:48] have to wait two years i say i'm not sure i can stay

[36:50] sure i can stay america for two years because maybe i

[36:52] america for two years because maybe i run out of money you know so

[36:53] run out of money you know so and i start asking people say somebody

[36:55] and i start asking people say somebody say oh study with

[36:56] say oh study with you know uh bruce you know

[37:00] you know uh bruce you know and uh you know i study this is funny

[37:04] and uh you know i study this is funny okay first lesson play this one he play

[37:07] okay first lesson play this one he play chords play this does that

[37:09] chords play this does that then he play blues he go like i think

[37:12] then he play blues he go like i think you need more blues does he say

[37:15] you need more blues does he say i say i come here to study jazz and not

[37:17] i say i come here to study jazz and not yet he said

[37:18] yet he said why because you don't have a blues

[37:22] why because you don't have a blues and the first lesson he asked me you

[37:24] and the first lesson he asked me you know transcribe johnny winter

[37:27] know transcribe johnny winter okay i thought you're going to ask me

[37:29] okay i thought you're going to ask me miles davis no

[37:31] miles davis no then i have to go by the records i

[37:32] then i have to go by the records i transcribe every note i write down

[37:35] transcribe every note i write down memory rain or something like that and i

[37:37] memory rain or something like that and i play exactly the same notes the first

[37:38] play exactly the same notes the first week

[37:39] week okay one more oman brothers sly guitar

[37:42] okay one more oman brothers sly guitar you

[37:42] you write everything and i did that and

[37:44] write everything and i did that and after that he taught me

[37:46] after that he taught me charlie baraka says oh yeah training all

[37:48] charlie baraka says oh yeah training all that stuff you know so so

[37:50] that stuff you know so so that lesson taught me well sometimes i

[37:52] that lesson taught me well sometimes i have to trust

[37:53] have to trust teacher about the judgment

[37:56] teacher about the judgment you know and the same thing i started

[37:58] you know and the same thing i started with mark french

[38:00] with mark french and he's a funny guy and uh you know i

[38:03] and he's a funny guy and uh you know i like

[38:03] like funky stuff like that and i didn't read

[38:05] funky stuff like that and i didn't read the music well so he said

[38:07] the music well so he said tomo read this one method book

[38:11] tomo read this one method book aha you know he just said something like

[38:13] aha you know he just said something like this read this one

[38:15] this read this one well try this one so he kind of

[38:18] well try this one so he kind of encouraged me to read me

[38:19] encouraged me to read me read written music now improvisation

[38:22] read written music now improvisation so he really taught me written music how

[38:25] so he really taught me written music how to play

[38:26] to play really clean and actually i taught that

[38:28] really clean and actually i taught that to john mayer

[38:30] to john mayer to make clean up his technique yeah so

[38:33] to make clean up his technique yeah so basically i

[38:34] basically i asked john to play method book for

[38:37] asked john to play method book for you know some pages play really clean

[38:39] you know some pages play really clean technique that's

[38:41] technique that's we because that way we don't improvise

[38:43] we because that way we don't improvise anything everything written

[38:45] anything everything written so if you play something else it's wrong

[38:48] so if you play something else it's wrong and everything else is uh accuracy in

[38:51] and everything else is uh accuracy in the articulation

[38:53] the articulation muting technique so doubts i taught him

[38:56] muting technique so doubts i taught him play b if you play open g you have to

[38:59] play b if you play open g you have to touch

[39:00] touch b to mute it yeah

[39:03] b to mute it yeah you don't have these things you know if

[39:05] you don't have these things you know if you have a lot of reverb and a

[39:06] you have a lot of reverb and a distortion

[39:07] distortion or overdrive play steve levon you know

[39:09] or overdrive play steve levon you know so i taught him

[39:11] so i taught him clean up technique that's the first

[39:13] clean up technique that's the first thing i learned from other teachers

[39:16] thing i learned from other teachers and blues you have to know you can't

[39:19] and blues you have to know you can't just play be

[39:20] just play be you know stevie rebel you have to

[39:21] you know stevie rebel you have to understand

[39:23] understand history of so like i thought bb king i

[39:26] history of so like i thought bb king i taught charlie christian so i make john

[39:29] taught charlie christian so i make john mayer to play

[39:30] mayer to play rose room not for not he hated

[39:34] rose room not for not he hated but i made him to do it so that that's

[39:37] but i made him to do it so that that's we cleaned up a

[39:38] we cleaned up a problem i bet he didn't hate it after he

[39:40] problem i bet he didn't hate it after he learned it i find it

[39:41] learned it i find it i think so yeah yeah i think so yeah he

[39:43] i think so yeah yeah i think so yeah he still hated it

[39:44] still hated it whoa okay maybe yeah

[39:48] whoa okay maybe yeah all right yeah i what are some of the

[39:52] all right yeah i what are some of the things that your students come back to

[39:54] things that your students come back to you and say

[39:55] you and say was valuable that they learned from you

[39:58] was valuable that they learned from you and

[39:58] and are you surprised by those things or do

[40:01] are you surprised by those things or do you think yeah

[40:02] you think yeah i knew you would think that was valuable

[40:04] i knew you would think that was valuable later on yeah like you know little

[40:06] later on yeah like you know little things

[40:06] things little things like always people say i

[40:08] little things like always people say i didn't know how important but to try

[40:10] didn't know how important but to try it that's always here try it

[40:14] it that's always here try it you try as a rhythm guitar something

[40:17] you try as a rhythm guitar something about the picky about the bending skill

[40:19] about the picky about the bending skill like that in little things you know then

[40:21] like that in little things you know then some people become professional

[40:24] some people become professional and then some situation they're very

[40:27] and then some situation they're very useful like casino some

[40:28] useful like casino some people become like a session player in

[40:30] people become like a session player in the country you know try as well

[40:32] the country you know try as well everywhere

[40:33] everywhere bending techniques everywhere if you

[40:34] bending techniques everywhere if you become a teacher you know you can teach

[40:37] become a teacher you know you can teach something very simple then you can teach

[40:39] something very simple then you can teach much more deeper you know something like

[40:40] much more deeper you know something like that yeah

[40:43] that yeah yeah so i think that's interesting

[40:44] yeah so i think that's interesting because fundamentals i mean

[40:46] because fundamentals i mean and all the conversations we've had with

[40:48] and all the conversations we've had with everyone it always comes back to these

[40:50] everyone it always comes back to these fundamentals

[40:51] fundamentals yeah you know what i mean like yes

[40:52] yeah you know what i mean like yes triads are are

[40:55] triads are are are part of every style of music and

[40:58] are part of every style of music and it for you know when you start to

[41:00] it for you know when you start to understand advanced harmony it's just

[41:01] understand advanced harmony it's just stacking up triads right that's right

[41:04] stacking up triads right that's right yeah

[41:05] yeah so yeah it's just such a and i know

[41:08] so yeah it's just such a and i know everyone here you know we are always

[41:10] everyone here you know we are always going back to those things

[41:11] going back to those things practicing i always say you can't you

[41:14] practicing i always say you can't you can't know them

[41:15] can't know them well enough that's right i still like

[41:18] well enough that's right i still like you know simple stuff to teach you know

[41:20] you know simple stuff to teach you know yeah

[41:21] yeah yep so that's i think i i think

[41:25] yep so that's i think i i think i think you know simplicity is really

[41:28] i think you know simplicity is really you know part of a sophistication you

[41:30] you know part of a sophistication you know so so anything people want to do

[41:32] know so so anything people want to do like you know

[41:33] like you know high technical stuff but still i i like

[41:36] high technical stuff but still i i like to kind of

[41:37] to kind of bring in you know foundation like that

[41:40] bring in you know foundation like that you know so

[41:40] you know so um that's what i like to teach yeah even

[41:44] um that's what i like to teach yeah even like

[41:44] like how to use the amplifier i always say a

[41:47] how to use the amplifier i always say a little bit brighter

[41:48] little bit brighter a little less bass no reverb so you can

[41:50] a little less bass no reverb so you can hear

[41:51] hear everything and that's the actually a lot

[41:53] everything and that's the actually a lot of people surprised

[41:55] of people surprised um wonder why they actually got me you

[41:58] um wonder why they actually got me you did my

[41:59] did my level seven jury

[42:02] level seven jury my level seven jury was with you and

[42:04] my level seven jury was with you and john buboyen and i still have those

[42:06] john buboyen and i still have those notes actually

[42:07] notes actually when i got this job julia found him okay

[42:09] when i got this job julia found him okay what did i say

[42:10] what did i say and you know it was funny i was working

[42:13] and you know it was funny i was working so hard on like

[42:14] so hard on like you know harmonic vocabulary and trying

[42:17] you know harmonic vocabulary and trying to play

[42:18] to play like upper structure and trying to be

[42:20] like upper structure and trying to be really clever in my playing

[42:22] really clever in my playing and you were like yeah that's good you

[42:25] and you were like yeah that's good you need to practice more with an amplifier

[42:28] need to practice more with an amplifier did i say that yeah and i and it was

[42:30] did i say that yeah and i and it was just like oh my god

[42:33] just like oh my god i'm worrying about all this big stuff

[42:35] i'm worrying about all this big stuff and i'm like i have this other

[42:36] and i'm like i have this other basic piece of playing the electric

[42:38] basic piece of playing the electric guitar just like

[42:40] guitar just like really weak and you were just like yeah

[42:42] really weak and you were just like yeah you need it's like

[42:43] you need it's like and you like sat with me actually and

[42:45] and you like sat with me actually and gave me a mini lesson

[42:47] gave me a mini lesson after that jury and you were like think

[42:49] after that jury and you were like think about this

[42:50] about this don't roll off any of your tone

[42:54] don't roll off any of your tone like play no reverb into the amplifier

[42:58] like play no reverb into the amplifier don't play with a bunch of bass don't

[43:00] don't play with a bunch of bass don't roll off your tone

[43:01] roll off your tone like be as naked as possible and get the

[43:04] like be as naked as possible and get the best tone

[43:04] best tone and it was like yeah man you just like

[43:08] and it was like yeah man you just like you just like speared me right there

[43:10] you just like speared me right there about the tone yeah it was great yeah

[43:12] about the tone yeah it was great yeah i mean especially like you know tests

[43:14] i mean especially like you know tests like that or professionals i try not to

[43:16] like that or professionals i try not to teach because i love to teach

[43:18] teach because i love to teach i used to i used to try to teach and

[43:20] i used to i used to try to teach and somebody said you told me you shouldn't

[43:21] somebody said you told me you shouldn't teach you know okay

[43:22] teach you know okay i shouldn't do it okay sorry yeah then

[43:24] i shouldn't do it okay sorry yeah then after that i don't say anything but

[43:26] after that i don't say anything but sometimes

[43:27] sometimes i have to say just one thing so i always

[43:30] i have to say just one thing so i always say like this after

[43:31] say like this after after i you know proficiency i can tell

[43:33] after i you know proficiency i can tell the person doesn't have a

[43:35] the person doesn't have a doesn't use the amplifier the only i ask

[43:38] doesn't use the amplifier the only i ask is one thing

[43:38] is one thing so do you practice m no and then always

[43:42] so do you practice m no and then always people say how do you know

[43:44] people say how do you know because that sounds like it you know

[43:48] because that sounds like it you know so that's that's the only thing i ask

[43:50] so that's that's the only thing i ask because amp is to me

[43:52] because amp is to me kind of a part of electric guitar really

[43:55] kind of a part of electric guitar really part of it important you know i mean

[43:57] part of it important you know i mean i mean okay this one you're gonna laugh

[44:00] i mean okay this one you're gonna laugh now um

[44:02] now um i've been i've been uh see i do a lot of

[44:05] i've been i've been uh see i do a lot of you know kind of hard

[44:06] you know kind of hard project myself right this is called

[44:08] project myself right this is called stratcaster in a pickup right

[44:10] stratcaster in a pickup right so now this is called front pickup

[44:11] so now this is called front pickup middle pickup rear pickup

[44:13] middle pickup rear pickup and most people use the front because

[44:14] and most people use the front because nice and warm middle not popular because

[44:17] nice and warm middle not popular because kind of bright you know

[44:18] kind of bright you know so since august i put the tape here so i

[44:21] so since august i put the tape here so i can

[44:22] can go to the front i only use a middle

[44:24] go to the front i only use a middle pickup so very difficult to play

[44:26] pickup so very difficult to play or turn all the way so i practice about

[44:29] or turn all the way so i practice about two months

[44:30] two months and then i came up with this

[44:37] and then i came up with this for the folks at home listening he's

[44:40] for the folks at home listening he's showing us a stratocaster

[44:42] showing us a stratocaster an actual stratocaster that only has a

[44:46] an actual stratocaster that only has a middle pickup

[44:48] middle pickup yeah you laugh right yeah yeah

[44:50] yeah you laugh right yeah yeah see this is my philosophy limitation

[44:54] see this is my philosophy limitation is a possibility and this guitar

[44:57] is a possibility and this guitar i play well and i'm very picky about the

[45:00] i play well and i'm very picky about the volume control on the tone control now i

[45:02] volume control on the tone control now i put the tape on

[45:04] put the tape on wow it's like the most extreme example

[45:07] wow it's like the most extreme example of self-limitation

[45:09] of self-limitation honestly um i love limitations yeah

[45:11] honestly um i love limitations yeah because you watch

[45:12] because you watch see i do see wow there's a whole

[45:15] see i do see wow there's a whole collection of them

[45:17] collection of them yeah yeah yeah but

[45:20] yeah yeah yeah but yeah then uh

[45:24] that's incredible because you know we've

[45:25] that's incredible because you know we've had other conversations with people

[45:27] had other conversations with people about

[45:28] about self-limitation and practice right like

[45:31] self-limitation and practice right like in one episode we talk about playing one

[45:33] in one episode we talk about playing one note for six

[45:34] note for six hours now we're talking about like

[45:37] hours now we're talking about like engineering that right into your

[45:39] engineering that right into your instrument

[45:40] instrument that's cool so this way i really focus

[45:44] that's cool so this way i really focus on my rhythm guitar because so

[45:46] on my rhythm guitar because so bright very bright attack is

[45:49] bright very bright attack is so also this is actually you know i

[45:52] so also this is actually you know i noticed this

[45:53] noticed this sounds better because no magnet no

[45:56] sounds better because no magnet no magnet

[45:56] magnet field around this you know so a little

[45:58] field around this you know so a little bit more sustained

[46:00] bit more sustained and then less wiring and a little bit

[46:02] and then less wiring and a little bit better a little bit more pure

[46:05] better a little bit more pure that's all you got this is all you can

[46:07] that's all you got this is all you can get

[46:09] get well that's you know tomo that's

[46:11] well that's you know tomo that's interesting because i think

[46:12] interesting because i think i mean i totally agree with you on all

[46:15] i mean i totally agree with you on all of those things and

[46:16] of those things and yeah it really makes you listen

[46:20] yeah it really makes you listen to yourself and i think there's a point

[46:22] to yourself and i think there's a point where students

[46:23] where students yeah need to start to you know yeah like

[46:26] yeah need to start to you know yeah like like ian was saying like he was so

[46:27] like ian was saying like he was so caught up in all these other things

[46:29] caught up in all these other things yeah really listening to the sound that

[46:31] yeah really listening to the sound that he made

[46:33] he made and it is another thing of being aware

[46:34] and it is another thing of being aware of all those levels like are you what

[46:36] of all those levels like are you what are you thinking about

[46:38] are you thinking about right no i'm just nothing when i'm

[46:40] right no i'm just nothing when i'm playing yeah

[46:41] playing yeah and and they those are all those

[46:44] and and they those are all those layers of a development and

[46:47] layers of a development and as you become a better player but you

[46:50] as you become a better player but you know

[46:51] know you as a teacher directing students that

[46:54] you as a teacher directing students that way to be honest

[46:55] way to be honest okay yeah we've got these other yeah of

[46:57] okay yeah we've got these other yeah of course you have to play in time of

[46:58] course you have to play in time of course you have to play in tune of

[46:59] course you have to play in tune of course you have to know where that note

[47:00] course you have to know where that note is yeah

[47:01] is yeah but you also have to listen to the sound

[47:03] but you also have to listen to the sound and that makes your technique better

[47:05] and that makes your technique better right when you start

[47:06] right when you start listening you hear oh ugh and you hear

[47:10] listening you hear oh ugh and you hear all the scrapes and the buzzes and

[47:12] all the scrapes and the buzzes and you know i i think especially nowadays

[47:15] you know i i think especially nowadays like

[47:15] like you know more equipment available and

[47:19] you know more equipment available and everything cheaper so like and so amp

[47:22] everything cheaper so like and so amp built in a

[47:22] built in a you know reverb river pedals many effect

[47:26] you know reverb river pedals many effect guitar has so many pickups right but

[47:28] guitar has so many pickups right but more and more

[47:29] more and more lately myself really into really play

[47:32] lately myself really into really play acoustic guitar

[47:33] acoustic guitar just because acoustic guitar it's

[47:35] just because acoustic guitar it's difficult it's no trick

[47:37] difficult it's no trick no trick

[47:41] you know right now i have my mental hero

[47:45] you know right now i have my mental hero is tommy emmanuel because he

[47:48] is tommy emmanuel because he really makes guitar sing by himself

[47:52] really makes guitar sing by himself and he really connects with the audience

[47:54] and he really connects with the audience and that's my

[47:55] and that's my mental hero now i i want to play like

[47:58] mental hero now i i want to play like him

[47:59] him just a guitar that's funny you say that

[48:02] just a guitar that's funny you say that because i just was about to ask you

[48:05] because i just was about to ask you we've talked you and i have talked

[48:07] we've talked you and i have talked lately about using like the solo guitar

[48:10] lately about using like the solo guitar you know like you're getting into being

[48:12] you know like you're getting into being a soloist and i was just about to ask

[48:14] a soloist and i was just about to ask you how these things apply

[48:17] you how these things apply um all this philosophy and practice

[48:19] um all this philosophy and practice applies to like taking what you do

[48:22] applies to like taking what you do and turning it into a solo art and it

[48:25] and turning it into a solo art and it sounds like you're

[48:26] sounds like you're you're listening pretty deeply to tommy

[48:29] you're listening pretty deeply to tommy yeah emmanuel who is

[48:30] yeah emmanuel who is is known for for being a soloist yeah

[48:33] is known for for being a soloist yeah but also

[48:34] but also i kind of i mean myself i kind of

[48:36] i kind of i mean myself i kind of researched about his

[48:37] researched about his his he in his past you know so i could

[48:40] his he in his past you know so i could tell he's like more like i mean

[48:42] tell he's like more like i mean i guess him just this is kind of briefly

[48:44] i guess him just this is kind of briefly like kind of my guessing

[48:45] like kind of my guessing he probably became like a great studio

[48:48] he probably became like a great studio guy

[48:48] guy or session guy who can play anything

[48:52] or session guy who can play anything then he wants his own voice to he start

[48:54] then he wants his own voice to he start getting rid of

[48:55] getting rid of situations so that he focus on

[48:59] situations so that he focus on guitar see some people think solo guitar

[49:01] guitar see some people think solo guitar oh yeah because you you can't have a

[49:03] oh yeah because you you can't have a band

[49:03] band that's why you play solo you know no no

[49:05] that's why you play solo you know no no no no i can have a band but just you

[49:07] no no i can have a band but just you know