# Buffalo Bills 2026 NFL Draft Round 1 Reaction | DC and C1 BUF

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[00:09] Good evening and welcome to the cover one.
[00:15] Evening and welcome to the cover one Buffalo Disguise coverage round one.
[00:19] Buffalo Disguise coverage round one reaction with Greg Thompson and Anthony.
[00:22] Reaction with Greg Thompson and Anthony Prohaskca.
[00:26] Anthony, is it true that you traded your blueberry muffin for additional future blueberries?
[00:30] Additional future blueberries >> in this draft class?
[00:32] I would have I would have done that.
[00:34] I think it made a lot of sense.
[00:37] Um, and I did.
[00:37] I'm happy with the future blueberries I got.
[00:39] Um, there's a lot of good value for the day two blueberries in this blueberry class.
[00:44] And uh, yeah, I'm pretty pleased with it.
[00:46] It. >> Yeah.
[00:46] So, you are joining us here uh because for the second time in three years, uh Anthony and I have been ready to react to the Bills uh first round pick and they have traded out of the first round.
[00:57] Although, tonight it took them three trades to move down.
[01:00] So, this is literally like the mockdraft simulator, you know, uh version here.
[01:10] simulator, you know, uh version here with people, you know, moving down,
[01:12] with people, you know, moving down, moving down, moving down, picking up little bits here and there.
[01:14] moving down, moving down, picking up little bits here and there.
[01:15] We'll go over each of the three trades.
[01:17] Uh all the analysis and and uh you know trade calculators that I saw the Bills won each of the trades.
[01:22] the analysis and and uh you know trade calculators that I saw the Bills won each of the trades.
[01:26] One of them pretty handily, one pretty close to market value and then the third one again in between the two, but a pretty, you know, solid win, per se.
[01:28] handily, one pretty close to market value and then the third one again in between the two, but a pretty, you know, solid win, per se.
[01:30] value and then the third one again in between the two, but a pretty, you know, solid win, per se.
[01:33] between the two, but a pretty, you know, solid win, per se.
[01:34] Um, we'll spend some time later on, you know, going over some of the best available and some of the guys that we hope for at Pick 35 and other options they can do now with the ammo that they have.
[01:37] solid win, per se. Um, we'll spend some time later on, you know, going over some of the best available and some of the guys that we hope for at Pick 35 and other options they can do now with the ammo that they have.
[01:40] time later on, you know, going over some of the best available and some of the guys that we hope for at Pick 35 and other options they can do now with the ammo that they have.
[01:42] of the best available and some of the guys that we hope for at Pick 35 and other options they can do now with the ammo that they have.
[01:44] guys that we hope for at Pick 35 and other options they can do now with the ammo that they have.
[01:45] other options they can do now with the ammo that they have.
[01:47] But, you know, Anthony, just starting off, you know, how what is your reaction to how things went tonight?
[01:49] Anthony, just starting off, you know, how what is your reaction to how things went tonight?
[01:51] how what is your reaction to how things went tonight?
[01:54] I know pre-show we talked about that run up of the four straight picks coming into pick 26 was a mix of guys.
[01:55] about that run up of the four straight picks coming into pick 26 was a mix of guys.
[01:59] picks coming into pick 26 was a mix of guys.
[02:01] I don't know if you were on board with all four of them, but um the four picks leading up to the Bills pick went Ake Messador, Malachy Lawrence, Casey Conpsion, and Dylan Theamman.
[02:03] with all four of them, but um the four picks leading up to the Bills pick went Ake Messador, Malachy Lawrence, Casey Conpsion, and Dylan Theamman.
[02:06] picks leading up to the Bills pick went Ake Messador, Malachy Lawrence, Casey Conpsion, and Dylan Theamman.
[02:08] Um as you
[02:11] Conpsion, and Dylan Theamman.
[02:13] Um as you saw that happen and we got to the pick, saw that happen and we got to the pick,
[02:15] where was your head at and where we ended up now with the three tradebacks?
[02:17] ended up now with the three tradebacks?
[02:19] I had always preferred trading back at 26 over everything.
[02:23] I just think with I don't think the Bills roster currently or even necessarily in the future is in like dire need of like oh my god this is a hole they have to get this but I think
[02:27] like dire need of like oh my god this is a hole they have to get this but I think there are several vulnerabilities or potential up upgrade spots and even just
[02:34] there are several vulnerabilities or potential up upgrade spots and even just good good options currently on the roster where they can add cost effective talent.
[02:40] good good options currently on the roster where they can add cost effective talent.
[02:42] And you pair that with, for me at least, I know for a lot of folks as as well, like the glut of value in this class for me was like 25 to like 7580.
[02:46] talent. And you pair that with, for me at least, I know for a lot of folks as
[02:47] as well, like the glut of value in this class for me was like 25 to like 7580.
[02:50] I don't think I've ever had so many guys in like my top 125 board where I've had so many guys with like a second round to like third, fourth round grade.
[02:54] I don't think I've ever had so many guys in like my top 125 board where I've had so many guys with like a second round to like third, fourth round grade.
[02:56] I keep calling them round like two and a half to three and a half.
[03:00] so many guys with like a second round to like third, fourth round grade. I keep calling them round like two and a half to three and a half.
[03:03] So I was like, trade back. Get me as many picks as you can in the top 100 or the top 90. Um,
[03:05] like third, fourth round grade. I keep calling them round like two and a half to three and a half.
[03:06] So I was like, trade back. Get me as many picks as you can in the top 100 or the top 90. Um,
[03:08] trade back. Get me as many picks as you can in the top 100 or the top 90. Um,
[03:12] can in the top 100 or the top 90.
[03:12] Um, but I told myself, okay, I'd make some exceptions.
[03:14] Like if K if they took Casey Conpion at 26, I'd be cool.
[03:16] If they took Kade McDonald, even if they took Kristen Miller, um, Malachi Lawrence I warmed up to a little bit, though I did think it would have been rich for him at 26.
[03:24] Um, Theaman, I I questioned the fit and wasn't the biggest fan, but I would have understood.
[03:27] So, I honestly like I it would have taken a lot for me to be upset with anything they did at 26.
[03:30] like they would have had to have taken like a tight end for me to be like what?
[03:31] Like that that's how like specific it would have gotten.
[03:35] I could have understood or spun a lot of things.
[03:38] Not even spun, just made sense of a lot of moves.
[03:40] And at the end of the day, I think the first trade got them good value.
[03:43] I think the last trade got them good value.
[03:46] The one in the middle, like you talked about the Pats, maybe kind of a push or, you know, are you dance with the devil because you're helping out the Patriots a little bit.
[03:48] Who knows?
[03:50] Um, but yeah, overall I'm I I'm pleased and I think to your point, I think the run of guys right up
[04:13] point, I think the run of guys right up to them picking.
[04:15] Maybe it's a different to them picking.
[04:16] Maybe it's a different story if Mal Kai Lawrence is on the board.
[04:18] I think it I think it is a different story if Casey Conpsion is on the board.
[04:22] Um, but I I like the capital they masked.
[04:24] Yeah. And I think it's relative.
[04:26] RJ, who's always in here with us saying I'm okay with them trading back three times after Theon KC being off the board.
[04:31] The problems problem is they they could have traded up to get one of those guys.
[04:35] We're just adding more depth and we needed stars.
[04:37] Most of what you said there, R.J. is is is correct except for the idea that Conpsio and Athena were stars.
[04:46] Like once you got past Caleb DS at 11, there were no more stars left.
[04:50] Like there were a handful.
[04:51] If you wanted to get the last available star, it or close to it if you know depending on how you feel.
[04:57] It was trading up where the Bucks were to get Ruben Bane.
[05:01] Like there are not a lot of blue chip or stars in this draft.
[05:03] The whole promise of this draft, even though the draft is pretty much promised every year, was value and useful players.
[05:11] Like guys that you can, oh, this guy's a good guy.
[05:12] This guy's a good guy. But nobody
[05:14] guy. This guy's a good guy.
[05:14] But nobody here like, oh, what a stud.
[05:16] Let me hang here like, oh, what a stud.
[05:16] Let me hang my hat on this guy.
[05:18] my hat on this guy.
[05:18] Yeah.
[05:20] So, um, don't get me wrong, I like those guys.
[05:22] I like those four players.
[05:22] I would have been cool with them, but honestly like I know a lot of really smart draft people who had McNeel Warren higher than Theamman and who had Denzel Boston and had Casey Conpsion and had you know that like again it's all relative to to where some of those things are people who have TJ Parker and Cashas Howell ahead of um you know it's just the the way that it it was framed ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:24] honestly like I know a lot of really smart draft people who had McNeel Warren higher than Theamman and who had Denzel Boston and had Casey Conpsion and had you know that like again it's all relative to to where some of those things are people who have TJ Parker and Cashas Howell ahead of um you know it's just the the way that it it was framed ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:26] smart draft people who had McNeel Warren higher than Theamman and who had Denzel Boston and had Casey Conpsion and had you know that like again it's all relative to to where some of those things are people who have TJ Parker and Cashas Howell ahead of um you know it's just the the way that it it was framed ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:28] higher than Theamman and who had Denzel Boston and had Casey Conpsion and had you know that like again it's all relative to to where some of those things are people who have TJ Parker and Cashas Howell ahead of um you know it's just the the way that it it was framed ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:31] Boston and had Casey Conpsion and had you know that like again it's all relative to to where some of those things are people who have TJ Parker and Cashas Howell ahead of um you know it's just the the way that it it was framed ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:35] and had you know that like again it's all relative to to where some of those things are people who have TJ Parker and Cashas Howell ahead of um you know it's just the the way that it it was framed ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:36] you know that like again it's all relative to to where some of those things are people who have TJ Parker and Cashas Howell ahead of um you know it's just the the way that it it was framed ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:38] relative to to where some of those things are people who have TJ Parker and Cashas Howell ahead of um you know it's just the the way that it it was framed ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:41] things are people who have TJ Parker and Cashas Howell ahead of um you know it's just the the way that it it was framed ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:45] Cashas Howell ahead of um you know it's just the the way that it it was framed ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:47] just the the way that it it was framed ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:48] ahead of Lawrence is what I was going to say.
[05:48] Um it's all relative to to where those things are.
[05:51] those things are.
[05:51] None of those were slam dunks.
[05:53] All of them are in the same tier.
[05:55] Um it's the same tier.
[05:55] Theamman and McNeel Warren are absolutely in the same tier of safety.
[05:58] and McNeel Warren are absolutely in the same tier of safety.
[06:00] same tier of safety.
[06:00] um you know the the idea of Lawrence and Meador and um Parker Howell, whoever else you have in that tier of uh whether you you have Yakis or whe whoever you might have Zion Young in
[06:02] um you know the the idea of Lawrence and Meador and um Parker Howell, whoever else you have in that tier of uh whether you you have Yakis or whe whoever you might have Zion Young in
[06:05] the idea of Lawrence and Meador and um Parker Howell, whoever else you have in that tier of uh whether you you have Yakis or whe whoever you might have Zion Young in
[06:09] Meador and um Parker Howell, whoever else you have in that tier of uh whether you you have Yakis or whe whoever you might have Zion Young in
[06:11] Parker Howell, whoever else you have in that tier of uh whether you you have Yakis or whe whoever you might have Zion Young in
[06:13] whoever else you have in that tier of uh whether you you have Yakis or whe whoever you might have Zion Young in
[06:16] whoever you might have Zion Young in that tier of pass rusher, it's in the same tier as those guys.
[06:21] Um, we still have, you know, Kade McDonald or Kristen Miller available to us and, uh, if they want to go with a Jacob or Rodriguez or an Anthony Hill or or whoever it might be, they have all those options available.
[06:31] And honestly, any of them would have been reasonable picks at 26 and instead we still get one player who's in that exact same tier at 35.
[06:46] Um, plus all the other stuff that we got.
[06:48] And all I can tell you is my entire group chat of all my adult friends who are all Cleveland Browns fans are freaking out cuz the first sentence that they said about Casey Conpsion said he can't catch the ball.
[07:00] Um I was trying to calm them down uh that you know his explosiveness and like the dozen muff punts, the contested catches.
[07:09] I think he has the concentration drops because he's looking to set up his next move, not because he can't catch the ball.
[07:12] Um but they'll work on that.
[07:15] Don't don't worry.
[07:16] they'll work on that.
[07:16] Don't don't worry.
[07:18] So, um, let's go through.
[07:19] let's go through.
[07:19] I think his his drops, to your point,
[07:20] like I know the Bills didn't end up picking him.
[07:23] Um,
[07:23] he he has way better hands that he gets credit for.
[07:26] The drops are inexcusable.
[07:26] You can't have drops, but they're more concentration drops, not like that he has bad hands.
[07:31] Correct.
[07:31] Correct.
[07:32] So, I tried to reassure them of that, but then I let them just wallow in their own misery because it's more fun uh to do that.
[07:39] Um,
[07:39] so let's go through each of the three trades here and then specifically which picks are left before we talk about maybe our preference going into some of the next moves.
[07:49] So, um, the first trade was a slam dunk in and here I'm just going to use Anthony Reinard because he did a really nice job um, going through some of the like the percentage value gain uh, to show here.
[07:56] So, his number one trade of all the trades today was the Bills first trade.
[08:04] So that the the Houston Texans paid like a 7.1% premium, which was the most extra of any pick.
[08:09] All the ones that I saw showed that as like getting an extra late third to early fourth.
[08:16] Some of the uh trade value charts had it as a later fourth, but
[08:18] charts had it as a later fourth, but like picking up an extra free uh third or fourth round pick because of what they got.
[08:22] Um the Bills traded picks 26 and 91.
[08:26] So our first and our third to move down two picks from 26 to 28.
[08:29] and the Bills got picks 69 and 167.
[08:32] So obviously pick 69 very nice.
[08:35] Um but moving from pick 91 up to pick 69, you're talking about moving up 22 picks for moving down two and getting a fifth rounder.
[08:38] So um that one was a slam dunk.
[08:41] Super super easy.
[08:44] Um no no notes like that's as good as you're going to get.
[08:47] It was the best value anybody got for any trade today.
[08:50] >> Yeah.
[08:54] You know I came I don't do this often.
[08:55] Um, after the fact I hate people that do it.
[08:56] I I'm gonna pat myself on the back twice in this episode, especially for the Titans trade.
[08:58] I came close to nailing this one on an episode of disguise coverage.
[09:00] I posited the Texans giving 38 and 69 straight up for pick 28.
[09:02] Um, it was a trade value of 765
[09:20] pick 28. Um, it was a trade value of 765 for Houston to 700 for the Bills.
[09:22] But then I added in like the Bills could add pick one pick 126 and balance it.
[09:27] Um, so I came decently close with this one.
[09:29] Tennessee was even closer.
[09:30] We'll get to that later.
[09:32] I was fine with this.
[09:34] You you move back two spots in the first round, which again is nothing, especially if you're kind of laying out who's on the board, who you're willing to take.
[09:40] And I think the big point, too, is we'll see who they take at 35.
[09:41] And then this this becomes more palatable or less palatable for some fans depending on I've even seen a couple comments.
[09:49] It's understandable, right?
[09:50] Like the Bills did this before and it took Keon Coleman and we saw how that turned out so far.
[09:55] Like I get it.
[09:56] Completely understandable.
[09:58] But you move back two spots um in the first round initially here.
[10:01] And then to move up from 91 to 69 nice is a huge jump and fantastic.
[10:03] And then you get 167 on top of it which cool, why not?
[10:11] Um and so that's a nice throwin pick at the end.
[10:13] But to move back two, but then move up 22 and get yourself a pick nice in the
[10:21] 22 and get yourself a pick nice in the middle of day two there.
[10:24] Um I was very pleased with this one.
[10:25] This was a nice start to back up.
[10:28] Um, again, get an extra pick on top of it.
[10:29] You get three, they get two.
[10:32] But that move up from 91 to 69 really I think is where I mean,
[10:35] look at the look at the the trade value difference there on his pick.
[10:38] Like three, pick 69 is worth 346.
[10:41] Pick 91 is worth 221.
[10:43] That's a huge jump for the Bills to amass that.
[10:45] Uh, and just to to help some of our our fan fans listening about the last time we did the the double trade down was ended up with Keon Coleman.
[10:54] Well, the time before that we did a double trade down, we ended up with James Cook.
[10:58] So, sometimes it works out well, you know.
[11:00] So, that the last time that that was, you know, trading back twice at the end of the second round, we ended up getting James Cook out of it.
[11:07] So, um, and I will say I don't think it's crazy to do the math of the value they got back of moving from 26 down to 35 is they basically now netted out the value of the DJ Moore trade.
[11:20] like that they they got themselves basically, hey,
[11:23] they got themselves basically, hey, we'll give you pick 26 for pick 35 and
[11:26] we'll give you pick 26 for pick 35 and DJ Moore is is pretty close to what the
[11:29] DJ Moore is is pretty close to what the value of that worked out as.
[11:31] So, if that's what you want to think about it
[11:32] as, oh man, we didn't get that.
[11:34] Well, now we have 69 and we have 101.
[11:37] So, before it would have been 60 and and 91.
[11:40] So, relatively like I you know, it's not exactly the same.
[11:43] We moved from 60 to 66 and 91 to 101, but relatively they got
[11:46] um plus we got an extra fourth and an extra fifth.
[11:50] So I'll say those trade out.
[11:52] So because probably 60 and the extra fourth would get you know 66 and
[11:53] the extra fourth is easily up to 60 and
[11:55] 101 and the extra fifth is easily up to 91.
[11:58] So I I think that's fair.
[12:01] They basically got DJ Moore for trading down from 26 to 35.
[12:03] So that's a good good way to think about it.
[12:06] A great job by Alen's Alps.
[12:11] We hold on.
[12:13] We got to pause.
[12:14] We got super chat from Patton.
[12:15] Beautiful.
[12:17] Appreciate you, Pat.
[12:17] Thank you for being here.
[12:19] Thank you for the super chat.
[12:23] Um I should have known.
[12:23] Patton says, "Yes,
[12:25] I should have known.
[12:25] Patton says, "Yes, that's true.
[12:27] But now we have enough ammo to trade for Tmaine.
[12:31] Looks like # Edgman is back on the menu, boys.
[12:33] Happy draft day, fells.
[12:34] I should have known.
[12:35] Well done.
[12:35] Well played.
[12:36] Well played.
[12:36] The only thing better is if you had have been reading it like full go and caught it live.
[12:42] Like so the only thing better is if he could have buried it like one sentence later in the super chat cuz those are my favorite like where they get me going and I'm reading it and then I catch it like as I'm live in the read.
[12:54] But well played P.
[12:55] I'm so used to because like I'm doing disguise coverage solo.
[12:56] I'm so used to bringing it up but kind of proofreading it before I go just in case there's like somebody get Exactly.
[13:02] that I shouldn't put up there.
[13:04] So yeah, uh and I scanned quickly and saw Tmaine and the hashtag.
[13:07] I was like, I know where this is going.
[13:09] Well played, Ben.
[13:11] So the next one here, um again, nothing negative.
[13:15] Uh technically a slight value gain.
[13:18] The Bills traded pick 28 for 31 and 125.
[13:22] They got an extra four.
[13:23] They got a fourthrounder for moving down three spots.
[13:25] It was basically full value
[13:29] three spots.
[13:29] It was basically full value technically.
[13:31] They got like the extra value of a seventhrounder uh in addition.
[13:33] So they didn't lose the trade.
[13:35] they got, you know, full regular value for moving down three spots.
[13:38] Um, and again, the the one thing I will say is that in both of these trades, I never like it when somebody trades up and then takes a player that I would have wanted or that we would have debated or we would have had to, you know, always sit back and make, oh man, we picked a receiver and they picked a receiver ahead of us and we let them trade down.
[13:41] We weren't going to pick a guard in this spot.
[13:43] I get it.
[13:45] you know, it's, you know, Alec Anderson versus Austin Corbett, but like I I don't think we were going to take a guard here early on.
[13:47] So, the fact that the Texans traded up for Keelin Rutled and then the uh Pats traded up for Caleb Blomu, I I was fine with both of those cuz I was like, "All right, we're good.
[13:49] I'm just I'm that's never going to hang over my head as like, oh, okay, they ended up coming up for that offensive lineman because we weren't going to take a tackle.
[13:51] We we weren't going to do that.
[13:53] So this one again, we didn't like win the trade per
[14:30] again, we didn't like win the trade per se, but trading with the Pats 28 for 31 se, but trading with the Pats 28 for 31 and 125, fair value.
[14:37] We got another fourthrounder and I was fine.
[14:39] Like I wasn't upset, especially once I saw they pick Lomu.
[14:42] Yeah, I'm in a similar boat.
[14:44] I think the most interesting thing is like Lomu was a left tackle at Utah.
[14:49] So does this mean the Will Campbell experiment at left tackle is over for New England and they're now going to kick him into guard maybe?
[14:56] So that's maybe kind of like a trickle down effect for the future maybe that we took part in.
[15:00] Um but yeah, I this was like the type of deal that I thought was decently realistic for the Bills going into the draft which was like trade back three or four or five spots and pick up an early fourth or something like that.
[15:15] A two for one where the value is somewhat close.
[15:16] You're not doing anything crazy.
[15:19] And again, I I I I wanted and I think it made sense a lot in this class where the value of who you're going to get at the back end of round one isn't changing too much from 28 to 31 and you're getting this extra capital.
[15:30] And I know some say, oh, it's
[15:31] capital.
[15:33] And I know some say, oh, it's like pick 125, like what does that matter?
[15:36] I'll take an extra fourth round pick in a class where there's going to be value early and in the middle of day three, which and round four is, you know, pick 125 is still in the middle of round four.
[15:47] you're still early value there and you're not really moving back for much.
[15:52] And especially if you think, you know, hey, we don't love anybody here at 28.
[15:56] Let's move back three spots. Pick up another top 125 pick.
[15:59] Yeah, I say I I like this move.
[16:04] I wasn't over the moon for it like I was uh I shouldn't say over the moon in general, but I didn't love it as much as the first move or the third move, but I thought this was fine other than the pettiness of being like, "Oh, New England, you want somebody here?"
[16:18] No.
[16:21] Um, so speaking of that third move, uh, the next one to trade out of the first round alto together, they did a three for three trade with Tennessee, but I the overall math worked out very well.
[16:29] So again, this one was, uh, probably I
[16:32] So again, this one was, uh, probably I think I tried to scan through all of Anony's uh, draft charts here.
[16:37] I think it was like the fourth best value of any trade that happened in the first round.
[16:41] the one of the Cowboys trades and one of the other Dolphins the 49ers got better a little bit better value of the Dolphins trade up.
[16:48] Uh but I think it was the fourth highest one.
[16:49] The Bills traded picks 31 69 and 165 for 35 66 and 101.
[16:58] So, you know, they traded down four spots to get a slight bump up in their third rounder from 69 to 66, but then a huge jump up in the fourth in the from a fifth rounder in 165 to the first pick of day three on Saturday at pick 101.
[17:06] >> but then a huge jump up in the fourth in the from a fifth rounder in 165 to the first pick of day three on Saturday at pick 101.
[17:14] Um, so I I did like how that one came together really well.
[17:17] again going from 165 to 101 and getting like a top 100 player instead of a guy that's you know a late fifth rounder I thought was a really nice jump and plus you get the little bump from 69 to 66.
[17:20] going from 165 to 101 and getting like a top 100 player instead of a guy that's you know a late fifth rounder I thought was a really nice jump and plus you get the little bump from 69 to 66.
[17:23] Um, so
[17:25] top 100 player instead of a guy that's you know a late fifth rounder I thought was a really nice jump and plus you get the little bump from 69 to 66.
[17:28] was a really nice jump and plus you get the little bump from 69 to 66.
[17:30] Um, so
[17:33] the little bump from 69 to 66.
[17:36] Um so again now those first three picks that again now those first three picks that we have were before we came into today.
[17:38] we have were before we came into today or even before the DJ Moore trade at 26.
[17:42] or even before the DJ Moore trade at 26 um 60 and 91 and now at 3566 and 101.
[17:46] um 60 and 91 and now at 3566 and 101 basically recoup the full uh trade for.
[17:49] basically recoup the full uh trade for DJ Moore set us up well with another.
[17:52] DJ Moore set us up well with another chunk coming afterwards.
[17:54] chunk coming afterwards.
[17:54] Yeah, this now puts the Bills in a spot.
[17:56] where I end up liking.
[17:57] So, their first pick in this draft as of now is pick 35.
[18:00] But now you're sitting, you went from.
[18:02] But now you're sitting, you went from having, you know, two picks in the top.
[18:05] having, you know, two picks in the top 100 and then your next pick coming in.
[18:07] 100 and then your next pick coming in the 120s and now you've got five picks.
[18:10] in the top 126 including three in the.
[18:14] in the top 101 and then you get that nice.
[18:16] top 101 and then you get that nice little split going from 35 to 66 to 101.
[18:20] little split going from 35 to 66 to 101.
[18:20] Um, I really like this one.
[18:22] again, particularly you move back four spots.
[18:25] from 31 to 35, but then you move up.
[18:27] three from 69 to 66.
[18:30] And like you said, huge, huge jump going from 165 to pick.
[18:33] huge, huge jump going from 165 to pick 101.
[18:33] First pick in round four if you
[18:35] 101. First pick in round four if you wanted to present it the biggest silver lining way.
[18:37] You kind of almost got another third round pick there.
[18:41] Uh, which is really nice.
[18:43] And this was the one I came close.
[18:46] Um, I posited, you know, from the Bills having pick 26, but I proposed Tennessee giving 35 and 101 to the Bills for pick 26.
[18:57] And then I also mentioned that the Titans having a second rounder at 66, which could influence them being more willing to sacrifice 101.
[19:03] And then the Bills having a fifth round pick at 165 that could sweeten the deal and balance out the value.
[19:11] So, I got four of these six picks, right?
[19:12] That's wild, man.
[19:15] That's impressive.
[19:16] I was close.
[19:16] Yeah, I uh yeah, 35 101 and then, you know, nailing it from the bill side for the most part.
[19:23] So, I uh am pleased.
[19:24] Also, heck, the fact that there were two other trade down so you didn't have to do it with 26 that you were able to do it with 31, get the other value from those two trades and then still nail the other
[19:36] trades and then still nail the other pieces here.
[19:38] That's how good of a value pieces here.
[19:38] That's how good of a value they were able to get.
[19:41] So, um ultimately they were able to get.
[19:41] So, um ultimately they're going to walk into tomorrow.
[19:42] They're going to walk into tomorrow here.
[19:44] Our guy AJ Sabolski has a nice here.
[19:44] Our guy AJ Sabolski has a nice list here to be able to share.
[19:46] So, nine picks going in with um two of them uh tomorrow on day two as of right now.
[19:50] Tomorrow on day two as of right now.
[19:52] I'm going to mention my my preference here in a bit and then um seven picks on day three.
[19:54] In a bit and then um seven picks on day three.
[19:58] So, I loved all three tradeowns.
[20:01] Um I loved I liked all three trade rounds.
[20:04] I thought they were good value.
[20:06] And again, after some of the guys that came off the board, this is where I was at.
[20:08] This is where I was at.
[20:10] I didn't want them to move up unless it was like a Caleb DS Ruben Bane type guy.
[20:12] Like hey this is a top 10 guy that's falling down a little bit if you want to give him something crazy especially when I saw what some of the cost of some of the other tradeups were I was like oh.
[20:15] Especially when I saw what some of the cost of some of the other tradeups were I was like oh.
[20:17] Well if teams are kind of discounting where this comes from um let's see where that goes.
[20:18] Let's see where that goes.
[20:20] Dustin here saying with all these picks giving up uh slots to the Pats the Titans what are your guys thoughts on how how great Greg's beard.
[20:22] The Titans what are your guys thoughts on how how great Greg's beard.
[20:24] What are your guys thoughts on how how great Greg's beard.
[20:27] How how great Greg's beard.
[20:29] How great Greg's beard.
[20:31] Great Greg's beard.
[20:33] Greg's beard.
[20:34] Beard.
[20:37] thoughts on how how great Greg's beard has gotten.
[20:37] Uh so I appreciate that.
[20:39] has gotten.
[20:39] Uh so I appreciate that.
[20:39] Yeah.
[20:42] Uh, it's it's it's showing it's showing quite a bit here.
[20:44] So, it's distinguished.
[20:44] Um, I appreciate it.
[20:46] So, luckily like this is staying nice.
[20:48] Like I I'm not getting any
[20:49] the money maker the money maker's intact.
[20:51] I So, the sneaky part is I keep this short cuz I am getting gray and silver in my temples here, but I keep it short enough that you can't see it.
[20:56] But yeah, the beard it is it is it is showing.
[21:00] But, you know, it's okay.
[21:03] I appreciate it, Dustin, very very much.
[21:04] Okay.
[21:05] Um, so I am now at a spot where I liked each of the ones and appreciate TJ very much, man.
[21:10] You guys are awesome tonight.
[21:13] Um, I'm now at the point where, okay, now we can mess around.
[21:14] Get me back up here one more time.
[21:17] So, I want to see, hey, what does 125, 167, and 168 get us?
[21:19] Can you get me up to 90?
[21:21] And we can end up there with like 35, 66, 90, and 101.
[21:24] um you know so and then we still would have
[21:37] know so and then we still would have like 126.
[21:39] So that I would like to like 126.
[21:39] So that I would like to combine three of those four in the combine three of those four in the fourth and fifth round.
[21:45] Combine three of those and get me back up into the late into the late third.
[21:49] So then we end up with something like matter of fact I guess I can do it live while we're while we're talking here.
[21:53] Um do you think so you're thinking like 125 167 168 and using that to move up into like the 90s or you including 101?
[22:04] Uh, no, no, no.
[22:04] So, keep, uh, starting with 125.
[22:10] So, I'd like to take 125, one, let's see, 160.
[22:14] I'd probably do 67 and 68.
[22:22] So, 125, 167, 168 gives us 507.
[22:25] Yeah.
[22:25] It's almost exactly to like pick 98.99.
[22:29] And then you get my dream of having four picks in the top 100.
[22:33] Yes.
[22:33] Plus, you still have 125.
[22:35] So, or 126, whichever one.
[22:35] So, then you're talking four picks in the top 126.
[22:39] talking four picks in the top 126.
[22:42] Um, you're talking, you know, being able to have or five picks in the top 125 and four picks in the top 100 and really getting that full value of what's there.
[22:51] So, I'd like to use that.
[22:53] And you know, again, if it's 101 to move up or whatever it might be, um I'm fine with whatever combination, but we've now traded down three times, gotten enough ammo that we can mess around a little bit here.
[23:07] Um cuz it could also be moving up from 66.
[23:10] You know, you could take take two of those pieces.
[23:13] Give me um you know, so 66 plus um let's say 60.
[23:19] We'll take one from each of them.
[23:21] So 66 + 126 + 160 uh 68 gets us into their early early 50s.
[23:29] Yeah.
[23:31] So you're now talking that that's going to let you take that's like 30 um six.
[23:35] That gets you up to 53.
[23:39] So now now you're talking where you
[23:41] So now now you're talking where you could get 35 and 53 and still have 101.
[23:45] could get 35 and 53 and still have 101 and 125.
[23:48] Uh so again that that could be and 125.
[23:50] Uh so again that that could be where you know and I don't know who's going to be falling into that range but
[23:52] going to be falling into that range but say you do go with McNeel Warren or you
[23:55] say you do go with McNeel Warren or you do go with Kaden McDonald or something
[23:57] do go with Kaden McDonald or something like that here and then one of TJ Parker
[24:01] like that here and then one of TJ Parker Cashes Howell uh Gabe Yakis um you know
[24:05] Cashes Howell uh Gabe Yakis um you know whoever it might be Zion Young is falling a little bit or you really want
[24:08] whoever it might be Zion Young is falling a little bit or you really want to go get a Chris Bell or you really
[24:11] to go get a Chris Bell or you really want to go get a Ted Hurst.
[24:13] want to go get a Ted Hurst.
[24:16] Um, or let's say they go with one of the edge rushers now and Kristen Miller is still sitting there at 53 and you want
[24:19] Um, or let's say they go with one of the edge rushers now and Kristen Miller is still sitting there at 53 and you want to move up from 66.
[24:21] still sitting there at 53 and you want to move up from 66.
[24:24] Uh, they now have the ammo to move around and go get a couple guys that they really like.
[24:26] Uh, they now have the ammo to move around and go get a couple guys that they really like.
[24:28] couple guys that they really like.
[24:31] Um, that 66 pick is where on a lot of boards, you see Jay Gold, you see Josiah Tarder, you see, you know, a lot of guys
[24:34] that 66 pick is where on a lot of boards, you see Jay Gold, you see Josiah Tarder, you see, you know, a lot of guys who who you and Eric have spent a lot of time talking about the fit and the the
[24:36] boards, you see Jay Gold, you see Josiah Tarder, you see, you know, a lot of guys
[24:39] Tarder, you see, you know, a lot of guys who who you and Eric have spent a lot of time talking about the fit and the the
[24:41] who who you and Eric have spent a lot of time talking about the fit and the the
[24:43] time talking about the fit and the the ability to to put one of those guys in.
[24:45] ability to to put one of those guys in here.
[24:48] Um, Kyle Lewis, Lee Hunter, like I I really like a lot of the names in that area.
[24:50] So, getting, you know, having one there back again now that we kind of recouped that DJ Moore pick, um, plus still having the other ones there.
[24:55] I like the flexibility they've got and what they can move around to be able to to make something happen here.
[25:05] Yeah, 10,000%.
[25:08] I I'm right there with you.
[25:11] And like e even if they stood Pat with everything that they have now, I'd be happy and I'd be fine.
[25:17] But nine picks and especially the fact that seven of those nine are like fifth rounders and above.
[25:19] You're not talking like 36 and 27ths where like all right, those are basically borderline UDFAs.
[25:28] the fact that you have, you know, fourth and fifth round picks make rosters.
[25:30] Like every single four, matter of fact, the last handful of years, every fifth round pick has made the NFL roster uh for the team that picked them.
[25:38] So, you know, you're talking about guys who are going to come in and play and, you know,
[25:43] to come in and play and, you know, ideally be game day active contributors,
[25:46] ideally be game day active contributors, special teams, or or contributing
[25:47] special teams, or or contributing wherever they're at.
[25:49] So, like now you're talking seven legitimate contributors.
[25:51] That that could be really nice.
[25:52] Yeah. And oh, grab this quick uh another super chat here from TJ. Appreciate you,
[25:55] super chat here from TJ. Appreciate you, TJ. And uh thank you for being here.
[25:57] TJ. And uh thank you for being here. Thank you for super chat.
[25:59] And the comment is I feel like you essentially picked DJ Moore with your first pick in the draft and then moved to the top of rounds two, three, and four.
[26:01] picked DJ Moore with your first pick in the draft and then moved to the top of rounds two, three, and four.
[26:03] Yeah. I mean, depending, we talked about that, you know, briefly, Greg, but depending on how you looked at it, yeah, we kind of recouped the second we gave up for DJ Moore and then added more capital on top of it, which is a really nice thing to kind of
[26:05] the draft and then moved to the top of rounds two, three, and four.
[26:08] Yeah. I mean, depending, we talked about that, you know, briefly, Greg, but depending on how you looked at it, yeah, we kind of recouped the second we gave up for DJ Moore and then added more capital on top of it, which is a really nice thing to kind of
[26:09] you know, briefly, Greg, but depending on how you looked at it, yeah, we kind of recouped the second we gave up for DJ Moore and then added more capital on top of it, which is a really nice thing to kind of
[26:10] on how you looked at it, yeah, we kind of recouped the second we gave up for DJ Moore and then added more capital on top of it, which is a really nice thing to kind of
[26:12] of recouped the second we gave up for DJ Moore and then added more capital on top of it, which is a really nice thing to kind of
[26:14] Moore and then added more capital on top of it, which is a really nice thing to kind of
[26:17] of it, which is a really nice thing to kind of
[26:18] kind of
[26:19] Now it's essentially you traded for DJ Moore and now it's not like, oh, the draft capital plus the money, now it's just more like the money for DJ.
[26:21] Moore and now it's not like, oh, the draft capital plus the money, now it's just more like the money for DJ.
[26:23] draft capital plus the money, now it's just more like the money for DJ.
[26:24] just more like the money for DJ.
[26:26] Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, if if you had come to me and said, "Hey, we had to trade down from 26 to 35 to get DJ Moore," I I honestly probably would have felt better about it than giving up picks.
[26:29] to me and said, "Hey, we had to trade down from 26 to 35 to get DJ Moore," I I honestly probably would have felt better about it than giving up picks.
[26:31] down from 26 to 35 to get DJ Moore," I I honestly probably would have felt better about it than giving up picks.
[26:36] I honestly probably would have felt better about it than giving up picks.
[26:38] I would have been like, "Yeah, no, I'm I'm down."
[26:40] have been like, "Yeah, no, I'm I'm down."
[26:41] "Yeah, no, I'm I'm down."
[26:43] Especially knowing this draft class and like where everybody had the
[26:45] class and like where everybody had the 12 first round grades, 14 first round 12 first round grades, 14 first round grades, nine first round grades,
[26:48] grades, nine first round grades, whatever it was, like it was very unlikely we were going to get a first round graded player at 26.
[26:51] I would have been like, "Yeah, we're probably going to get pretty similar value."
[26:57] and and especially the fact that we might have needed one of the nonpremium positions at a run stuffing D tackle or an offball linebacker or a safety, I would have been like, "Yeah, yeah, I'll I'll take that."
[27:10] So, yeah, that however you want to think about it, the fact that now we got that and kind of lessened the impact of what we gave up there.
[27:17] I like this combination quite a bit.
[27:18] Yeah, 1,000%.
[27:21] And and then if you kind of pair it in with what we were talking about where what you were breaking down with the flexibility like it it just off you now you have more flexibility and ammunition to kind of do whatever you want.
[27:30] Do you want to move up from 101?
[27:32] Do you want to move up from you know 66?
[27:35] Do you maybe want to move up from 125 closer to 101?
[27:40] Like there's there's all these options.
[27:42] And now you've got to your point with having the nine picks but then having a good chunk of them in
[27:47] but then having a good chunk of them in round five and above.
[27:49] You've got that round five and above.
[27:51] You've got that flexibility.
[27:51] You can make some noise on day two.
[27:53] You can make some noise early on day three.
[27:55] You could stay pat and still have a good amount of value.
[27:57] You could cash in some of that quantity for quality like you outlined.
[28:00] Um I'm happy with where they are.
[28:03] And again, it's just because of it's because of the value that's in this class.
[28:04] Like I I know a lot of folks are going to hang their hat on wanting one specific guy or thinking that oh this guy was going to be great or this guy was going to be this.
[28:07] But the the fact of it is, you know, you know, and I'm saying this from my perspective, but also I I think from how the league is valuing the class this year, there's a lot of guys with similar grades between like players 25 and like 50, there's not a huge graded difference.
[28:09] And when you're a team that is trying to get some cost effective talent and is trying to, you know, kind of patch some holes up a little bit and add some roster flexibility and retool and tweak things a little bit on the defensive side of the ball, it helps to have all these swings at the plate and
[28:49] have all these swings at the plate and all these dart throws and whatever other.
[28:51] all these dart throws and whatever other verbiage, you know, you want to do or or use there to kind of uh use as euphemisms for the NFL draft, which is a crapshoot.
[28:53] verbiage, you know, you want to do or or use there to kind of uh use as euphemisms for the NFL draft, which is a crapshoot.
[28:56] use there to kind of uh use as euphemisms for the NFL draft, which is a crapshoot.
[29:00] euphemisms for the NFL draft, which is a crapshoot.
[29:02] is a crapshoot. But at the end of the day, like there's a reason why teams miss all the time.
[29:05] day, like there's a reason why teams miss all the time.
[29:07] miss all the time. Like I feel like good success in the NFL draft is almost kind of like a good batting average where if you're like hitting 300, it's like you're only succeeding three out of 10, it's like that's amazing.
[29:09] success in the NFL draft is almost kind of like a good batting average where if you're like hitting 300, it's like you're only succeeding three out of 10, it's like that's amazing.
[29:11] of like a good batting average where if you're like hitting 300, it's like you're only succeeding three out of 10, it's like that's amazing.
[29:13] you're like hitting 300, it's like you're only succeeding three out of 10, it's like that's amazing.
[29:15] you're only succeeding three out of 10, it's like that's amazing.
[29:16] it's like that's amazing.
[29:17] Like that's really >> You have no idea how much better that is.
[29:18] really >> You have no idea how much better that is. As I watch Hakee Butler play in the UFFL.
[29:21] is. As I watch Hakee Butler play in the UFFL.
[29:23] UFFL. >> There you go.
[29:23] There you go. >> Like so many guys, you know, there's so many guys that I was so sure were going to end up being good.
[29:25] Like so many guys, you know, there's so many guys that I was so sure were going to end up being good.
[29:27] many guys that I was so sure were going to end up being good. They're like, man, how did that not work out?
[29:29] to end up being good. They're like, man, how did that not work out?
[29:30] how did that not work out? I don't get it. or the opposite. How are the Cowboys so awesome at drafting and so terrible at football?
[29:33] it. or the opposite. How are the Cowboys so awesome at drafting and so terrible at football?
[29:35] so awesome at drafting and so terrible at football?
[29:36] at football? >> Man, I >> How do they keep doing this?
[29:38] Man, I >> How do they keep doing this?
[29:39] How do they keep doing this? Like they're just unbelievable at drafting good football players and it never works into winning football games.
[29:41] they're just unbelievable at drafting good football players and it never works into winning football games.
[29:45] good football players and it never works into winning football games.
[29:46] into winning football games. >> Yeah. Jerry just like doesn't It's like if all things fall into his lap and then
[29:48] Yeah. Jerry just like doesn't It's like if all things fall into his lap and then
[29:50] if all things fall into his lap and then he has to find a way to get them to fall
[29:52] he has to find a way to get them to fall back out of his lap.
[29:53] back out of his lap.
[29:53] Grossly overpaying waiting to play pay players usually.
[29:56] Grossly overpaying waiting to play pay players usually.
[29:58] He like he feels like too much of a good like he's a secret masochist and he feels like too much of a good thing.
[30:00] too much of a good like he's a secret masochist and he feels like too much of
[30:02] masochist and he feels like too much of a good thing.
[30:03] He's like I can't have that.
[30:04] I have to balance things out with the negative and just screw things up in free agency and how I'm paying guys.
[30:06] the negative and just screw things up in free agency and how I'm paying guys.
[30:08] And man K downs and Jaylen Thompson is such a sick safety room.
[30:12] man K downs and Jaylen Thompson is such a sick safety room.
[30:14] That's going to be so fun for Dallas.
[30:17] Um and Mike a part.
[30:17] Oh wait.
[30:20] Um yeah just absolutely crazy for them.
[30:22] But yeah, I again now the Bills it day two becomes really fun and early day three becomes fun for the Bills even if they stand pat.
[30:25] Bills it day two becomes really fun and early day three becomes fun for the Bills even if they stand pat.
[30:26] early day three becomes fun for the Bills even if they stand pat.
[30:29] I think they're in a good a good spot, right?
[30:32] But like you said, you could cash in some of those chips and not even sacrifice a ton.
[30:35] some of those chips and not even sacrifice a ton.
[30:36] You can cash in some of those chips relatively easily for more quality overall or in certain instances in a vacuum.
[30:39] those chips relatively easily for more quality overall or in certain instances
[30:41] quality overall or in certain instances in a vacuum.
[30:44] in a vacuum.
[30:45] Yeah.
[30:47] So, let's uh before we wrap up here, let's talk a little bit about uh best available here.
[30:49] here, let's talk a little bit about uh best available here.
[30:51] best available here.
[30:51] I'm going to bring up the Ringer draft guide.
[30:53] You know, up the Ringer draft guide.
[30:53] You know, again, there's a lot of draft boards there, so this isn't perfect, but
[30:54] again, there's a lot of draft boards there, so this isn't perfect, but
[30:55] relatively is going to show the best available um guys that are out here.
[30:57] available um guys that are out here.
[30:57] I might even be able to shrink it down a little bit more.
[31:00] I might even be able to shrink it down a little bit more.
[31:01] I'll do >> how they move when you kind of go over when how Oh, I like it.
[31:03] little bit more. I'll do >> how they move when you kind of go over when how Oh, I like it.
[31:04] >> It is nice.
[31:06] Their draft guide is always really slick and it's actually fantastic on mobile, too.
[31:07] really slick and it's actually fantastic on mobile, too.
[31:07] So, free promo for for the guys over the ringer.
[31:09] on mobile, too. So, free promo for for the guys over the ringer.
[31:11] I'm the little the the cards moving when you your cursor goes over them.
[31:14] the the cards moving when you your cursor goes over them.
[31:16] I don't know why I find this extremely aesthetically pleasing.
[31:17] I find this extremely aesthetically pleasing.
[31:17] This is like ASMR for me.
[31:20] This is like ASMR for me.
[31:20] >> So again, I think from a Bills standpoint, I don't expect McCoy or Terrell, regardless of how many people tried to give us a corner in their mock draft.
[31:22] >> So again, I think from a Bills standpoint, I don't expect McCoy or Terrell, regardless of how many people tried to give us a corner in their mock draft.
[31:24] I nothing drove me more crazy than I was like, do you not see our roster at all?
[31:26] like you're >> I understand like the idea of like oh they don't have a corner three and corner is a premium spot but also like
[31:28] >> I understand like the idea of like oh they don't have a corner three and corner is a premium spot but also like
[31:30] >> Benford Haristston and I I do think corner three is like a sneaky need and it is is a player that'll >> that'll play this year but it's not a
[31:33] than I was like, do you not see our roster at all?
[31:35] like you're >> I understand like the idea of like oh they don't have a corner three and corner is a premium spot but also like
[31:37] >> I understand like the idea of like oh they don't have a corner three and corner is a premium spot but also like
[31:39] >> Benford Haristston and I I do think corner three is like a sneaky need and it is is a player that'll >> that'll play this year but it's not a
[31:41] corner is a premium spot but also like
[31:43] >> Benford Haristston and I I do think corner three is like a sneaky need and it is is a player that'll >> that'll play this year but it's not a
[31:45] corner three is like a sneaky need and it is is a player that'll >> that'll play this year but it's not a
[31:47] it is is a player that'll >> that'll play this year but it's not a
[31:50] that'll play this year but it's not a
[31:52] that'll play this year but it's not a bigger need than what they got going on.
[31:54] bigger need than what they got going on in the front and maybe even at wide.
[31:57] in the front and maybe even at wide receiver like I just yeah I I I get it.
[31:59] receiver like I just yeah I I I get it but I I didn't get it.
[32:01] but I I didn't get it.
[32:01] A a versatile piece who is hey are they is it a safety?
[32:04] is it a safety? Is it a nickel? Can they play outside?
[32:06] play outside? Is it, you know, somebody maybe with some size who who can, you know, play in the overhang, whatever it might be.
[32:08] maybe with some size who who can, you know, play in the overhang, whatever it might be.
[32:10] know, play in the overhang, whatever it might be.
[32:11] might be. Like, I guess I could see one of those of like, hey, we did add three guys back there, but all three of, you know, Terrell and Gardenner Johnson and Stone are are, you know, not long-term fits for what we need.
[32:14] of those of like, hey, we did add three guys back there, but all three of, you know, Terrell and Gardenner Johnson and Stone are are, you know, not long-term fits for what we need.
[32:17] guys back there, but all three of, you know, Terrell and Gardenner Johnson and Stone are are, you know, not long-term fits for what we need.
[32:20] know, Terrell and Gardenner Johnson and Stone are are, you know, not long-term fits for what we need.
[32:22] Stone are are, you know, not long-term fits for what we need.
[32:25] fits for what we need. So, having like a legitimate upgrade would have been fine, but, you know, I I it it was, you know, there.
[32:27] So, having like a legitimate upgrade would have been fine, but, you know, I I it it was, you know, there.
[32:29] legitimate upgrade would have been fine, but, you know, I I it it was, you know, there.
[32:32] but, you know, I I it it was, you know, there.
[32:32] there. So, although if we pick D'Angelo Ponds, I'll get over it.
[32:34] So, although if we pick D'Angelo Ponds, I'll get over it.
[32:36] Ponds, I'll get over it.
[32:36] I'll just I'll just watch highlights of the pick six in the in the championship game and go from there.
[32:38] I'll just I'll just watch highlights of the pick six in the in the championship game and go from there.
[32:39] the pick six in the in the championship game and go from there.
[32:41] game and go from there.
[32:41] Um, so with you seeing who's here and the work that that you've done preparing for this, what is your wish list as we're going to start at pick 33.
[32:43] the work that that you've done preparing for this, what is your wish list as we're going to start at pick 33.
[32:45] for this, what is your wish list as we're going to start at pick 33.
[32:48] So there's going to be 33, 34, the Bills will pick third um coming in here to
[32:50] there's going to be 33, 34, the Bills will pick third um coming in here to
[32:52] the Bills will pick third um coming in here to
[32:55] will pick third um coming in here to start uh day day two of the draft.
[32:59] What is your board as you're going to stack it of what your preference would be at this pick?
[33:02] I don't want anyone to yell at me, but I kind of want to trade back again.
[33:05] Um I >> I won't lie, like there are more than three guys that I like here, and there's multiple that I would feel perfectly fine with if they were to do something where it's like 35 and 126 and they end up with like 40 and 87 or whatever, something like that, and they get another top 100 pick and get there, I'd be perfectly fine with it.
[33:28] Yeah, there's there's just I I I'm I feel like now I'm like in that the mockdraft mode of like how many tradebacks can I like do?
[33:35] Like >> what's the record for tradebacks with this?
[33:37] >> That's exactly it. Like can we keep going even further?
[33:42] Um the the biggest thing for me and it's going to start the domino effect going from there.
[33:46] And I feel like it's a conversation a lot of folks have had.
[33:49] I I think they need a true runbased interior defender. you know, whether you want to label that as the nose or the
[33:56] want to label that as the nose or the one tech that we have in previous years.
[33:58] one tech that we have in previous years, whatever.
[33:59] I don't care. Um because this person's going to work into the odd front looks and the even front looks.
[34:04] I like if you could guarantee me that you could get Dominique Goring at like 100 or 101 now, I should say, where they have that, I would be fine not taking Kaden McDonald or Kristen Miller.
[34:19] Now, um I see they have Miller a little lower.
[34:21] I have Miller and McDonald both in a similar tier.
[34:24] I I and I think this is one of the lowest rankings I've seen for him.
[34:28] So again, this is just one group's rankings.
[34:30] I think most places have Miller closer to that 30 to 40 range, but again, it's all relative.
[34:36] I think it's funny that they have Miller's comp as Dayquon Jones and then Kate McDonald's is an an event horizon.
[34:42] That's funny. Um,
[34:43] I will say so, uh, this is, um, the if there's any great skill for Danny Kelly, uh, his comparisons are unbelievable.
[34:52] Like his his his uh uh comps are
[34:59] Like his his his uh uh comps are hysterical of what he picks for guys.
[35:01] Hysterical of what he picks for guys.
[35:03] That's so funny.
[35:03] Um, and yeah, for for me, I like McDonald.
[35:06] I like Miller.
[35:06] I have them tiered similarly.
[35:08] I actually liked Miller more the more I went through this process and I liked Kaden McDonald less.
[35:17] Um, but I would be fine with either of them at 35.
[35:20] I'd be fine with the linebacker.
[35:22] What I'd love to do right now if we could guarantee things like I give me give me Kade McDonald or Kristen Miller at 35 and then give me Josiah Troder at 66.
[35:32] Yeah.
[35:34] Do do one of these guys if you could tell me that we for sure get one of Kyle Lewis Gold or Troder as 66 I be in.
[35:40] I'm done.
[35:42] I don't care who you pick.
[35:43] Pick pick pick one of the guys that are there.
[35:48] Yeah, I I think I'm in with that um that kind of mold.
[35:50] I I'm super torn on the edge grouping.
[35:53] I also have um Zion Young a little higher.
[35:54] I have Zion Young in the same tier.
[35:57] I had Zion Young, TJ Parker, and Mal Kai Lawrence all on a similar tier, though they're like
[36:00] similar tier, though they're like different kinds of players.
[36:02] I really like Ka uh Kron Crawford uh from Auburn.
[36:07] He actually the more I watched Kendrick Faulk for Auburn, the more my eyes kept going to 24.
[36:11] Oh, I love that his comp is Carl Granderson.
[36:14] That's a good comp. I'm horrible with comps.
[36:15] I and that's why I never make them.
[36:17] Plus, I think they set unfair expectations.
[36:19] So, I'm always appreciative of a good one.
[36:21] So yeah, if you could
[36:21] and I like I will say real quick, I like I very much appreciate that Danny doesn't compare everyone to like Hall of Famers and like their best like you see a lot of names here of like Derrick Hall, Preston Smith, Jabal Sheer, Derek Morgan.
[36:38] Like he doesn't pick like the best possible scenario for every single guy.
[36:42] He tries to be reasonable.
[36:44] Reggie White, Warren Sap, like you're like what are you doing? Why is this?
[36:48] Yeah, those guys aren't that. So, which of these safeties is most likely to be Ed Reed?
[36:50] Right. That's exactly it. Ed Reed, Troy Palamalu, Ronnie Lot.
[36:54] You're like, really? For Saki Wheatley, your comp is Ronnie Lot.
[36:59] Um, uh, for the audio listeners, that is not his comp. I'm
[37:00] listeners, that is not his comp.
[37:03] I'm just I will say that's funny for Jaylen Kilgore.
[37:04] Kilgore.
[37:06] I I've seen that more than one place.
[37:08] Gardner Johnson as the comparison for Kilgore.
[37:10] I've seen that more than one place.
[37:12] And again, the same thing.
[37:13] If you tell me we can get Kilgore with that pick 101, I I'd be very pleased.
[37:16] Safety is a weird one.
[37:17] Well, and I want to talk about that, but we got another super chat.
[37:18] Um, Bill's fan SC7, thank you very much for being here.
[37:21] Thank you for the super chat.
[37:22] The question with the super chat is if Bean trades back again, provided he gets good value in return, how far back can he move and you would be comfortable with the trade?
[37:36] Um, speaking loosely, if he traded back from 35 and ended up with something in like the early 40s and then another pick in like the 80s or the 70s, I would take that.
[37:46] Um, I don't know what t I think the Steelers have something comparable to that.
[37:51] I'm just going to It's literally exactly what I was looking for is who in this range here say I mean Houston again,
[38:01] range here say I mean Houston again, Cleveland, Casey, Cincinnati, New.
[38:03] Cleveland, Casey, Cincinnati, New Orleans, Miami.
[38:03] Houston has 38 and 60.
[38:05] Orleans, Miami.
[38:05] Houston has 38 and 60.
[38:05] Oh no, wait.
[38:07] They don't have 69 now cuz we had that any longer.
[38:11] So like Miami having 43 and 75.
[38:14] that combination where you're getting 201 points.
[38:16] So the Bills at pick you would do that one and then you would give up like 125 like that kind of thing.
[38:22] You would do 35 and 125 for 43 and 75.
[38:29] That would be the range we'd be looking for.
[38:34] looking for.
[38:34] Maybe even maybe Baltimore.
[38:38] Baltimore.
[38:38] 45 is probably getting close to my limit of I wouldn't want to go a lot lower than that.
[38:43] But if you could get me back into this range, matter of fact, um without.
[38:48] I'd love to do New Orleans.
[38:48] I'd love to do New Orleans 42 and 73, but I think that's probably a little too rich.
[38:54] We'd have to give up I we might have to give up 101 to do that.
[38:56] um like mathwise.
[39:01] give up 101 to do that.
[39:03] um like mathwise or it would actually probably be mult it or it would actually probably be mult it probably be like 35 125 and 167.
[39:07] probably be like 35 125 and 167 something like that.
[39:08] something like that.
[39:08] I would do that for 423.
[39:11] I would do that for 423.
[39:11] Yeah.
[39:13] So that's probably the range.
[39:13] I wouldn't want to go much beyond.
[39:14] wouldn't want to go much beyond Baltimore's 45.
[39:17] Um but yeah, getting somewhere into that range where you're still talking about um again, you know, somewhere in the range of, hey, we're probably still getting Rodriguez, Hill Jr., um Kristen Miller, you know, say if we dropped like 42 and still got Kristen Miller there and got that extra pick there to where you're now talking about, oh, so we could then get uh a safety and a linebacker and a receiver, you know, and you're getting all those in the top 101.
[39:19] still talking about um again, you know,
[39:23] somewhere in the range of, hey, we're
[39:26] somewhere in the range of, hey, we're probably still getting Rodriguez, Hill
[39:28] probably still getting Rodriguez, Hill Jr., um Kristen Miller, you know, say if
[39:31] Jr., um Kristen Miller, you know, say if we dropped like 42 and still got Kristen Miller there
[39:33] we dropped like 42 and still got Kristen Miller there
[39:34] Miller there and got that extra pick there to where
[39:36] and got that extra pick there to where you're now talking about, oh, so we could then get uh a safety and a linebacker and a receiver, you know, and
[39:38] you're now talking about, oh, so we could then get uh a safety and a linebacker and a receiver, you know, and you're getting all those in the top 101.
[39:40] could then get uh a safety and a linebacker and a receiver, you know, and
[39:43] linebacker and a receiver, you know, and you're getting all those in the top 101.
[39:45] you're getting all those in the top 101.
[39:47] Now I'm feeling really good where you're telling me we get Christine Miller and we still get Ted Hurst and we still get Josiah Troder and we get um a safety and we get um yeah let's say it was um heck maybe Dominique Crunch you get the Dackle there.
[39:49] telling me we get Christine Miller and we still get Ted Hurst and we still get Josiah Troder and we get um a safety and
[39:53] we still get Ted Hurst and we still get Josiah Troder and we get um a safety and we get um yeah let's say it was um heck maybe Dominique Crunch you get the Dackle there.
[39:56] Josiah Troder and we get um a safety and we get um yeah let's say it was um heck maybe Dominique Crunch you get the Dackle there.
[39:59] we get um yeah let's say it was um heck maybe Dominique Crunch you get the Dackle there.
[40:01] maybe Dominique Crunch you get the Dackle there.
[40:01] So that kind or I guess if
[40:03] Dackle there.
[40:03] So that kind or I guess if we pick Miller we wouldn't need him but we pick Miller we wouldn't need him but um that kind of combination.
[40:07] um that kind of combination offer the edge from from Auburn there.
[40:09] offer the edge from from Auburn there.
[40:09] Yeah.
[40:11] And I'm right there with you.
[40:11] I like arbitrarily kind of set Baltimore at 45 as the limit.
[40:17] Um, but that was a really good question.
[40:19] Uh, Bills Fantasy 7, thank you for that.
[40:20] Good thought question.
[40:21] I think that's that's where my head is at for tomorrow and and what I'm looking to do.
[40:27] I want to see more maneuvering.
[40:27] I love the aggression.
[40:29] I love picking up the ammo to be able to move around, especially where there wasn't necessarily an obvious screaming pick, especially with that run of four or five guys right before our pick.
[40:39] Um, so once we got to that spot, I thought that was the best case scenario.
[40:43] Like once Conpsio and Athena Min went off the board, I think that was the best case scenario was to be able to recoup value.
[40:49] He won all three trades, two of them by a by a material amount, um, and put us into a spot where now we have ammo for today, recoup the value of the DJ Moore trade, gave us maneuverability.
[41:01] And I know earlier there was a question of how many guys would make the roster.
[41:03] And and
[41:05] many guys would make the roster.
[41:07] And and I said, you know, statistically every fifth rounder has made the roster has made the NFL roster the last like five, six years.
[41:13] It it was a while since the last one didn't.
[41:14] Um but tell me that like the sixth rounder is a fullback and the seventh rounder's Jack Stonehouse and all of a sudden, you know, heck, you might have all nine guys make the roster to be able to do this.
[41:27] And honestly, you know, we could use a nice injection of young cheap talent here.
[41:33] And um you know, we don't need all nine picks to be hits.
[41:36] Like find me three of them that are nice contributors here and then others are just solid depth that we'll see what it turns into.
[41:44] Um all of a sudden I'm feeling much better.
[41:45] Yeah, I'm right there with you.
[41:46] And there there's just a lot of like like say safety is a good example, right?
[41:51] Like I I'm comfortable going into this year being like, okay, it's CJ and Bishop and then Gino Stone is probably your three, right?
[42:00] But then Gino and CJ are both on one years.
[42:02] So you have to address safety again next year.
[42:04] So do
[42:06] address safety again next year.
[42:06] So do you address safety now?
[42:08] And also like you address safety now?
[42:08] And also like you could address safety now in you know
[42:10] you could address safety now in you know you could get Bud Clark at pick 66 or
[42:12] you could get Bud Clark at pick 66 or maybe even like 101 something like that.
[42:14] maybe even like 101 something like that.
[42:16] Um maybe you do take Emanuel McNeel Warren at 35 and then now you have a
[42:19] Warren at 35 and then now you have a cool you know three safety package for
[42:22] cool you know three safety package for this year and someone to take over the
[42:24] this year and someone to take over the full-time role next year.
[42:26] You can cut Gino Stone this year.
[42:27] Sorry, Gino.
[42:27] There's not really any dead cap to get rid of them.
[42:30] rid of them.
[42:30] You can also use like Garter Johnson
[42:32] You can also use like Garter Johnson even in some nickel looks.
[42:35] You can do you can have some dime looks.
[42:37] You can do some 326 looks like it gives you a lot.
[42:39] some 326 looks like it gives you a lot.
[42:43] I I want to give Jim Leonard as much,
[42:43] you know, variability and optionality is
[42:45] what we can't just give him
[42:46] as much positional.
[42:48] Yes.
[42:48] Yeah.
[42:50] Like I want Bishop on the field all the time.
[42:50] I don't care if any of the rest of them play all the snaps.
[42:52] like use them in the scenarios and spots that make sense.
[42:54] Like I'm I'm perfectly fine with that.
[42:56] Um I actually had someone put up the idea, you know, that there are some of the things where if you're putting Stone more as, you know, some
[43:07] putting Stone more as, you know, some spots as just a depth guy, let him just spots as just a depth guy, let him just be the guy talking to Jaylen Kilgore and have Kilgore learn as get him at pick 101 and hope that next year he's ready to do that.
[43:19] And then maybe we want one more year out of Gardenner Johnson and maybe they switch and Kilgore becomes a starter and Gardenner Johnson is the third piece, you know, that kind of thing.
[43:27] thing.
[43:27] Yeah. And that's a that's like a fun conversation with safety.
[43:31] It's even kind of a similar conversation to wide receiver where it's like receiver is not your biggest need right now, but there's a world next year where Keon Coleman and maybe even Josh Palmer aren't on this team.
[43:43] and then you're looking at your only known quantities are DJ Moore and Shak Shakir and a returning Tyrell Shavers from injury.
[43:52] Um, so yeah, I Titan says give me the event horizon referencing McDonald's call for the rigger.
[43:56] That's good.
[43:56] Yeah, I'm I could be.
[43:58] Give me Skyler Bell.
[44:01] Give me.
[44:01] Spade in so many directions in a positive manner.
[44:05] Um, again, the Bills would have to really do something.
[44:08] would have to really do something so niche to piss me off in this draft.
[44:12] so niche to piss me off in this draft because there's you.
[44:14] because there's you, an offensive tackle.
[44:15] an offensive tackle, a tight end, a running back.
[44:18] Yes, it would have to be one of those things.
[44:19] it would have to be one of those things where like what the hell is going.
[44:22] where like what the hell is going like honestly e like I'm fine with Corbett.
[44:25] honestly e like I'm fine with Corbett versus Alec Anderson, but if they pick a guard.
[44:26] guard, I'd be like, "All right.
[44:28] I can understand it.
[44:30] If we're on board with that, I I got it."
[44:32] Like, you know, and like you said, I don't want a guy who's like an outside corner only.
[44:33] you know, and like you said, I don't want a guy who's like an outside corner only, but like a guy who's a corner, but he can play nickel.
[44:34] want a guy who's like an outside corner only, but like a guy who's a corner, but he can play nickel, he can play multiple spots to move around, contribute on special teams.
[44:37] only, but like a guy who's a corner, but he can play nickel, he can play multiple spots to move around, contribute on special teams, like I'm I'm okay with that.
[44:39] he can play nickel, he can play multiple spots to move around, contribute on special teams, like I'm I'm okay with that.
[44:42] spots to move around, contribute on special teams, like I'm I'm okay with that.
[44:44] special teams, like I'm I'm okay with that.
[44:46] Like again, this super funny timing.
[44:49] that. Like again, this super funny timing.
[44:49] timing. Yeah. Will you go crazy if the Bills go offensive guard in round two?
[44:51] Yeah. Will you go crazy if the Bills go offensive guard in round two? Um I would say I wouldn't love it, but I'd be okay.
[44:54] offensive guard in round two? Um I would say I wouldn't love it, but I'd be okay.
[44:55] say I wouldn't love it, but I'd be okay.
[44:57] I wouldn't love it at 35, 66, 101 or a move up somewhere there. I'd be fine.
[45:01] I wouldn't love it at 35, 66, 101 or a move up somewhere there. I'd be fine.
[45:03] move up somewhere there. I'd be fine. Like I it's it's a reasonable pick.
[45:06] Like I it's it's a reasonable pick. And you know, honestly, one of those picks at 125, 126, 167, 168 is going to be
[45:07] you know, honestly, one of those picks at 125, 126, 167, 168 is going to be
[45:12] at 125, 126, 167, 168 is going to be offensive lineman.
[45:14] Like we always refill the pipeline with guys from that standpoint of whoever this year's Chase Lunt is or whoever this year's >> as every team should.
[45:20] You should always be taking corners and trenches both sides of the ball.
[45:25] Absolutely. >> That's exactly how you you know how you build that and find those guys and and and develop them and why we were able to let David Edwards walk without needing to worry.
[45:35] Like that's why is because we were able to fill those.
[45:36] So >> yeah, I I'm right there with you.
[45:39] I um >> Well, >> any final thoughts for the people?
[45:43] No, I'm just I'm I'm sincerely pleased with what they did.
[45:47] Um, for a person who I I' I've said this multiple times, you know, if not for the Jim Leonard hiring, I would largely be down on this off seasonason for the Bills.
[45:55] Um, I am pretty pleased with where they stand right now.
[45:57] And just again, the flexibility that we talked about.
[45:58] Yeah.
[46:00] And then the Sabres won tonight, which is awesome.
[46:01] Good comment there, Adam, in the chat.
[46:03] Um, oh, we didn't make the joke of like, "Welcome to the Sabres post game."
[46:07] >> I I caught it like two minutes in and was like, "Oh, man.
[46:10] I should have done that and said the blueberries would have been better, but
[46:13] been better, but even texted about it, too.
[46:16] Man, we are we'll do it.
[46:18] Yeah, we'll do it.
[46:20] Yeah, I like where they are.
[46:21] A lot of flexibility.
[46:23] There's good value in this class.
[46:24] They can still address a multitude of needs if they just stay pat or if they make moves like we talked about, sacrifice some quantity for quality.
[46:28] Um I I am I am pleasantly pleased as we sit here right now.
[46:34] So, uh one last one here.
[46:36] Um yeah, another super chat.
[46:37] What are your thoughts on Denzel Boston?
[46:39] Like I I I like the I I don't I've I I probably unfairly lumped him in as Keon Coleman 2.0 and I didn't want that.
[46:49] But smart people like Mina Kims loves Denzel Boston.
[46:51] Um Danny Kelly that that we just had his guide up has him 19th overall.
[46:56] Um there are smart people who really like Denzel Boston and and think he can be a Mike Evans ball winner kind of guy.
[47:04] And if the team I would say if the Bills thought he was that we we wouldn't have traded back three times like you know like you know the same idea I I got into
[47:14] like you know the same idea I I got into that a little bit with uh with our guy.
[47:16] that a little bit with uh with our guy Chris Chow on Omar Cooper in that like.
[47:19] Chris Chow on Omar Cooper in that like oh we let the Jets snipe us for that.
[47:21] oh we let the Jets snipe us for that like dude we traded back twice already.
[47:22] like dude we traded back twice already.
[47:24] Like if we thought Omar Cooper was that guy we wouldn't have traded back twice.
[47:26] guy we wouldn't have traded back twice already to that spot.
[47:27] we would have taken him like it obviously they had a pretty solid grouping or tier or.
[47:30] pretty solid grouping or tier or.
[47:34] had a guy in mind who was not at a premium position that they knew they could drop back and still get which.
[47:37] had a guy in mind who was not at a premium position that they knew they could drop back and still get which.
[47:38] could drop back and still get which makes me think DTackle or linebacker is the pick is my guess is that they were planning to take one of those guys and.
[47:40] makes me think DTackle or linebacker is the pick is my guess is that they were planning to take one of those guys and.
[47:43] planning to take one of those guys and they knew they could drop back and still get him because they didn't care if it was McDonald or Christine Miller or they didn't care if it was Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill like that they were just going to pick one of those guys and that.
[47:45] planning to take one of those guys and they knew they could drop back and still get him because they didn't care if it was McDonald or Christine Miller or they didn't care if it was Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill like that they were just going to pick one of those guys and that.
[47:47] they knew they could drop back and still get him because they didn't care if it was McDonald or Christine Miller or they didn't care if it was Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill like that they were just going to pick one of those guys and that.
[47:48] they knew they could drop back and still get him because they didn't care if it was McDonald or Christine Miller or they didn't care if it was Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill like that they were just going to pick one of those guys and that.
[47:50] get him because they didn't care if it was McDonald or Christine Miller or they didn't care if it was Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill like that they were just going to pick one of those guys and that.
[47:52] was McDonald or Christine Miller or they didn't care if it was Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill like that they were just going to pick one of those guys and that.
[47:53] didn't care if it was Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill like that they were just going to pick one of those guys and that.
[47:55] Anthony Hill like that they were just going to pick one of those guys and that they knew they could still get, hey.
[47:57] going to pick one of those guys and that they knew they could still get, hey.
[47:58] they knew they could still get, hey, we're going to get one of those four at this pick and we're fine with it because.
[48:00] we're going to get one of those four at this pick and we're fine with it because.
[48:01] we're fine with it because we're going to go that direction.
[48:04] Um, so I I think it's more similar there, but if they pick Denzel Boston at 35 after all the other stuff they did, cool.
[48:05] I I think it's more similar there, but if they pick Denzel Boston at 35 after all the other stuff they did, cool.
[48:09] if they pick Denzel Boston at 35 after all the other stuff they did, cool.
[48:10] all the other stuff they did, cool.
[48:12] Like, all right, I'll I'll figure it out.
[48:15] out. Um, and then Paddton here saying, "If we go offensive guard at 35, I will
[48:17] "If we go offensive guard at 35, I will celebrate with the three other Bills
[48:19] celebrate with the three other Bills fans who are fans of keeping Josh Allen
[48:21] fans who are fans of keeping Josh Allen alive. I have been standing for it all
[48:22] alive. I have been standing for it all offseason." Again, protecting Josh is
[48:25] offseason." Again, protecting Josh is always a great idea. I'm never going to
[48:27] always a great idea. I'm never going to be upset.
[48:28] be upset. >> No. And uh Yeah, I wouldn't I
[48:31] >> No. And uh Yeah, I wouldn't I >> It's not my preference, but
[48:33] >> It's not my preference, but >> No. Yeah, it's not my preference at 35.
[48:35] >> No. Yeah, it's not my preference at 35. I don't wouldn't love it, but I'd be
[48:36] I don't wouldn't love it, but I'd be fine with it, and I'd understand. Um
[48:38] fine with it, and I'd understand. Um even Boston, I I have a I have a second
[48:42] even Boston, I I have a I have a second round grade on Boston. The thing for
[48:44] round grade on Boston. The thing for Boston that's weird with me is he moves
[48:46] Boston that's weird with me is he moves better than he should given his size and
[48:50] better than he should given his size and frame, but then he's also not as
[48:52] frame, but then he's also not as physical as I'd like him to be given his
[48:53] physical as I'd like him to be given his size and frame. Like, there's times
[48:55] size and frame. Like, there's times where guys get into him far too often in
[48:58] where guys get into him far too often in his releases and in his stems where I'm
[49:00] his releases and in his stems where I'm like, "Dude, you're like 6'2" and 212
[49:03] like, "Dude, you're like 6'2" and 212 pounds or even bigger than 6'2. Like,
[49:05] pounds or even bigger than 6'2. Like, push that dude off. Like, chop his arms,
[49:07] push that dude off. Like, chop his arms, beat him up. Like, play bigger than you
[49:09] beat him up. Like, play bigger than you are. And he doesn't do that. But then
[49:11] are. And he doesn't do that. But then he'll play big at the catch point. He's
[49:12] he'll play big at the catch point. He's got great hands, a natural hands
[49:14] got great hands, a natural hands catcher, big hands, strong mits, um,
[49:17] catcher, big hands, strong mits, um, makes really good catches. He's got more
[49:19] makes really good catches. He's got more shake to him and can move a bit better
[49:21] shake to him and can move a bit better than he gets credit for for his size.
[49:23] than he gets credit for for his size. He's not going to pull away from anyone
[49:24] He's not going to pull away from anyone or run past anybody. Um, I also don't
[49:27] or run past anybody. Um, I also don't think he's as good of a route runner as
[49:28] think he's as good of a route runner as I like him to be. U,, but I have a I
[49:30] I like him to be. U,, but I have a I have a solid two on him. I can
[49:31] have a solid two on him. I can understand if he would if he was the
[49:33] understand if he would if he was the pick or if people like him. I don't love
[49:35] pick or if people like him. I don't love him like that. I like him enough. Um,
[49:38] him like that. I like him enough. Um, but I would I would rather given where
[49:40] but I would I would rather given where the receivers are now, I'd rather go
[49:42] the receivers are now, I'd rather go receiver
[49:44] receiver ideally like later where we're looking
[49:46] ideally like later where we're looking into like 101. And I I'd rather go for
[49:48] into like 101. And I I'd rather go for that conversation in in in day three or
[49:51] that conversation in in in day three or late day two.
[49:52] late day two. >> And if we go that route, get me a guy
[49:54] >> And if we go that route, get me a guy with the skill set that, oh, good, he
[49:56] with the skill set that, oh, good, he comes in as our number one punt returner
[49:59] comes in as our number one punt returner and as our guy who can be a he has a
[50:01] and as our guy who can be a he has a roster, a a jersey on game day and
[50:04] roster, a a jersey on game day and hopefully develops into more. Um, I want
[50:07] hopefully develops into more. Um, I want that kind of guy if we do that, which is
[50:09] that kind of guy if we do that, which is the Skyler Bells, which is the, you
[50:11] the Skyler Bells, which is the, you know, the those kind of guys to to do.
[50:13] know, the those kind of guys to to do. >> Give me Skyler. You know, if you want
[50:14] >> Give me Skyler. You know, if you want Skyler Bell or uh, you know, Brennan
[50:17] Skyler Bell or uh, you know, Brennan Thompson, I'd like Brennan Thompson from Thompson, I'd like Brennan Thompson from Mississippi State.
[50:20] Not just because he's Mississippi State.
[50:20] Not just because he's an absolute flyer, um, but because of an absolute flyer, um, but because of he's like he's like a good blocker even though he's small, better route runner that he gives credit that he gets credit for.
[50:28] Yeah, like I would take him.
[50:30] I also like Deion Burks, another smaller but absolutely electric receiver um, from Oklahoma.
[50:36] I think it'd be interesting to see if Bryce Lance is still on the board when you go there, like the the size and the length and the frame later there.
[50:42] Um, oh, they I this comment in this super chat, I really like Cashes Howell and the juice that he brings, but he's just an absolute liability against the run.
[50:55] You can't play >> like 29 in arms or something stupid like like comically short.
[51:02] I don't remember the exact measurement, but his percentile length is the zero percentile.
[51:08] I I I I know I heard someone say 29 in, which I didn't even know was something that would happen like with NFL edge
[51:17] that would happen like with NFL edge rushers.
[51:17] Like I didn't know that.
[51:19] rushers.
[51:19] Like I didn't know that.
[51:21] and a quart.
[51:22] and a quart.
[51:23] Uh they're small.
[51:23] Uh they're small.
[51:25] I should not have longer arms than the NFL defensive end.
[51:28] It's just so and between that and the overall size and frame like you you can't play him on the close side of a formation because he's going to absolutely annihilate it.
[51:29] Like if the team if you put him on the close side where the tight end is and his team runs duo at him, he's going to get annihilated.
[51:31] And even if he's on the open side, if a team runs like zone at him, like weak side zone, I don't love that either.
[51:33] But he he's a velociraptor and he's got dip and bend and juice.
[51:35] Um, I want that type of skill set, which is why I understood like, oh, Malachi Lawrence, like linear speed, juice, acceleration.
[51:36] Um, even though he's much stiffer compared to Howell.
[51:38] Um, I like Zion Young.
[51:39] I think Zion Young is more of what they already have.
[51:40] Long, strong, go through you, not like, yeah, not a pass rush specialist, really good against the run, but I think he does enough as a pass rusher combined with his run defense that I like him.
[51:42] Um, I'd
[52:18] his run defense that I like him.
[52:20] Um, I'd rather So I would take Zion Young over Howell if it was between those two at 35.
[52:22] >> Kamorei calling for the Tokyo Toe. No shock.
[52:25] I respect it.
[52:27] >> Uh, so one last thing to close out here.
[52:30] Let's each call our shot.
[52:32] We're going to assume they stay at pick 35.
[52:36] Who is the pick?
[52:39] I think our best case scenario is we get a player that was probably the most commonly mocked player to us at 26 and we still get him at 35 and that's Kaden McDonald.
[52:49] That that's my my probably I won't I don't even know if it's actually my wish, but I I think that's I think that's the pick that makes the most people happy because everybody saw that as our pick and like oh we got him and the trade doubt.
[53:05] Mhm.
[53:07] I think that's fair.
[53:09] I God bless you.
[53:13] I uh I'm in a similar boat.
[53:16] I'll just because just to give another option and because they brought this other guy in for a top 30, I'll say Kristen Miller
[53:19] I'll say Kristen Miller from Georgia.
[53:21] That'll be my thought there.
[53:22] Just a little has a little more movement to him um in his game.
[53:25] I also think he plays against double teams better than Kaden McDonald does.
[53:29] Uh but yeah, I'm gonna go with I'd say McDonald or Miller at 35 and then I'm gonna say Troder at 66.
[53:35] Yeah.
[53:37] So, I would like our next two picks to be DTackle and linebacker in some order.
[53:40] I don't particularly care which order.
[53:42] I'll be fine if it's a receiver or an edge because those are valuable positions and it's never bad to take a premium position.
[53:51] But if I'm picking, I'd like give me DTackle and linebacker and then move up to get me the best receiver and edge that are still falling.
[53:57] Receiver, edge, safety.
[54:00] like get me the best guys still there that we get, you know, hopefully uh a fourth or a fifth top 125 pick.
[54:08] Like that's I want to use some of that ammo to come and get some of the guys falling there.
[54:13] Uh so again, whether it's like Tabio here saying CJ Allen or you know I know you and Eric done a lot of work on Troder and uh or a lot of people like
[54:20] Troder and uh or a lot of people like Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill or Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill or there's you know a lot of guys in that space that would make a lot of sense here to be a good fit.
[54:26] Give me one of them and one of them big on.
[54:29] Give me one of the big ones.
[54:30] I take that.
[54:33] See, Bernard is the other linebacker like makes Jacob Rodriguez.
[54:38] Jacob Rodriguez, and I don't mean this disparagingly, for me at least, he's a better athlete right now than he is linebacker.
[54:43] Um, I would like him more for the Bills if the other linebacker wasn't Terrell Bernard.
[54:49] I think there's too much same, which is again why I like Troder.
[54:54] Give me that downhill thumper.
[54:57] I want the guy who's going to literally run through your face.
[54:59] Um, who also is a little more agile and athletic than he gets credit for.
[55:03] Um, but I I I would like that type of back.
[55:05] I mean, also for me, I I included Arll Reese in my offball stuff.
[55:08] I had Reese and Sunny Styles as my one and two offball guys.
[55:11] My linebacker three was Josiah Troder.
[55:13] I have Troder ahead of CJ Allen, Anthony Hill, um, and
[55:22] ahead of CJ Allen, Anthony Hill, um, and Jacob Rodriguez.
[55:24] I like CJ Allen.
[55:24] And to Jacob Rodriguez.
[55:27] I like CJ Allen.
[55:27] And to Octavio's point, captain of the defense,
[55:29] Octavio's point, captain of the defense, like there is something to be said for a
[55:31] like there is something to be said for a dude who comes in as a freshman and is
[55:32] dude who comes in as a freshman and is already running the Georgia defense.
[55:34] already running the Georgia defense.
[55:36] Like the guy that like Glenn Schuman and
[55:40] Kirby Smart give him the keys to Allah
[55:44] Rocoan and Nico Dean.
[55:46] Um he just he's high cut and he's stiff or andor
[55:48] tight in his hips and he's kind of
[55:50] topheavy.
[55:52] That scares me.
[55:54] Like the lack of mobility scares me.
[55:57] Um or and change of direction.
[56:00] like he's fine, straight line, smart as hell.
[56:01] He is the guy to get everybody else aligned and right.
[56:03] Um he is that quote, you know, the
[56:05] prototypical brain trust kind of linebacker, green dot.
[56:07] Um so I understand and I think that'll help
[56:09] Allen have a decently successful career,
[56:11] but that lower body just scares me.
[56:13] The the how the high cut and the stiffness
[56:16] and tightness in the hips, it scares me.
[56:20] What position do you see Kyle Lewis as in the NFL?
[56:20] Oh, I see him as I see him
[56:24] in the NFL?
[56:24] Oh, I see him as I see him as more of like the overhang apex big nickel type of dude.
[56:29] I don't think he's a I don't think he's his game is suited to be like an actual linebacker linebacker like an actual offball guy.
[56:37] because I I don't want him fitting the run like regularly in the A gap or B gap.
[56:42] Like I don't want him doing that.
[56:43] I don't mind him doing that if I'm like I'm running a blitz or I'm running some kind of pressure package and he's going.
[56:47] but I see him as more of you know those teams who are trying to recreate Nick M and Worry uh type of deal.
[56:53] I see him as more of like a a big nickel apex overhang, some guy who changes the math because he can he can you if if the motion happens, he can get pulled into the box and still kind of function.
[57:05] But I see him as more of a guy operating in space with how smart and long and athletic he is.
[57:12] Or like if your alternate at nickel was a D Alfred type, you could have uh have a a Cal Lewis on first and second down and D Alfred on third down.
[57:23] Yeah.
[57:23] And you know what's interesting
[57:24] Yeah.
[57:26] And you know what's interesting too, like even just that conversation in too, like even just that conversation in general, like there is general, like there is there's nothing keeping the Bills from there's nothing keeping the Bills from like just being locked into D. Alfred.
[57:37] Like no disrespect, like they can easily go with a big nickel type of package if everything kind of falls the right way.
[57:46] Like if they decide like, hey, you know what? Like Kyle Lewis, dude who's like 5'11, like 220 lbs. Like he is that kind of big nickel.
[57:54] The range, the athleticism. Like let's kind of take advantage of that.
[57:57] Like the athleticism, the size and frame. Like if the board falls the right way, you could do that.
[58:03] I mean, hell, you mentioned it a little bit. Although, you know, CJ Garner Johnson isn't going to match up with all the types of guys in the slot.
[58:09] You could take Emanuel McNeel Warren and then you could platoon that nickel spot between CJ and Alfred depending on who's out there like uh oh it's more of like Zakias who torched Bishop in the preseason last year.
[58:21] It's that type of guy in the slot. Let's get D Alfred out there.
[58:23] Or if it's a power slot or a
[58:24] there.
[58:24] Or if it's a power slot or a tight end, put CJ in the slot there.
[58:27] Or tight end, put CJ in the slot there.
[58:27] Or you could even do that with Bishop a little bit or Emanuel McNeel Warren.
[58:30] So I think the idea of them getting like a positionless player, I hate using that because it's so overused.
[58:34] That's really interesting because we're we're out of the time where it was like, well, they have Taran and they're a nickel defense, so they're not going to do anything like that.
[58:43] Now it's no disrespect, it's it's D Alfred who they could easily platoon with or jump with someone.
[58:50] Yeah, I got to go to bed.
[58:54] Uh so folks, appreciate you guys.
[58:56] Chat was awesome here tonight.
[58:57] We will be back here with you tomorrow night actually talking about players the Bills pick.
[59:01] I feel confident that tomorrow night we will actually have players picked by the Buffalo Bills.
[59:06] They're they're going to amass the most fourth round picks in NFL history here tomorrow night.
[59:11] Um my wish tomorrow isn't a player at 35, isn't a player at 66.
[59:18] My wish is that we're talking about three draft picks tomorrow.
[59:21] That's my wish.
[59:23] I want to I want to be talking about three
[59:25] To I want to be talking about three players that we pick tomorrow because we players that we pick tomorrow because we moved up from 125.
[59:30] We moved up from uh that area to get us one more in the third round there.
[59:33] So, let's see.
[59:35] Um, as you guys said, uh Anthony and I are both hoping for some combination of like a a Miller or McDonald plus a troder or gold or somebody fun there to fill the needs at DTackle and linebacker.
[59:47] Maybe we come and get a fun wide receiver or safety or something cool there.
[59:51] So, um should be a lot more fun.
[59:53] Appreciate you guys.
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