# Berrada's TRANSFER Promise! Hall AND Fernandes HUGE Price! Man Utd Transfer News

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[00:01] Hello everybody.
[00:03] Welcome to the United Stands.
[00:04] I'm Mark Goldbridge.
[00:06] This is your latest Manchester United transfer news.
[00:08] And look, I'm trying not to smile if I'm being honest at the start of this video because there are so many uh strange things to discuss.
[00:15] Uh none more so than Bara's title pledge.
[00:17] I mean, apparently we might challenge for it next year.
[00:21] And if not, before 2028, he's still sticking to this project 150.
[00:24] I mean, I just don't think the guy knows football.
[00:27] And the hilarious thing is I think football is so political now.
[00:31] You've got some United fans out going, "Oh, fair play for him actually talking to the fans."
[00:36] He's the CEO.
[00:38] He's the CEO of Man United.
[00:40] He does one interview a bloody year and people are applauding him for doing a [ __ ] interview.
[00:42] My god, I I just don't get that.
[00:45] But also, he did talk about transfers.
[00:47] He spoke about um how, you know, Michael Carrick got the job.
[00:52] He spoke about the Amarim sacking.
[00:54] We'll delve into that.
[00:56] We've also got stuff around the sale as well um around transfers.
[00:59] did say, "Look, we're going to stick to our plan and we won't deviate from that."
[01:00] To me, that's
[01:02] like, "We're not going to overpay,"
[01:03] which I think they're stupid, but there we go.
[01:05] Um, also on transfers tonight,
[01:08] apparently Lewis Hall's price has been set at 70 million.
[01:09] Uh, The Athletic reporting that Fernandez's price has been set at 80 million and Man City might walk away from the Anderson deal and buy Tali.
[01:16] So, lots to get into on the show tonight and I think it's perfect for an 8:00 show because some of the statements are, you know, absolutely huge.
[01:28] Uh, we are sponsored by Buhuan on the show tonight and I will actually um um I will I will get I will talk about that straight away.
[01:37] But before I do, I just want to drop this comment for you and then we can come back to it.
[01:41] Um, this was Omar Barada.
[01:44] One of the goals that we've set out is to win the Premier League before 2028.
[01:48] So ideally we do it next season and if not the following season.
[01:50] Um is that guy absolutely deluded or do you actually think we're we're capable of doing that?
[01:57] We'll come back to that.
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[02:48] I was born on the 21st of January 1989 in Armenia.
[02:52] Uh, I joined Man United from Dortmund in 2016, becoming the first Armenian to play in the Premier League.
[02:58] During my time at United, I only made 39 Premier League appearance, scoring five goals, and was part of the squad that won the Community
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[03:44] Okay, let's fly into the show.
[03:47] Lots to get into.
[03:50] I want to talk about Bararda's comments.
[03:51] I also want to talk about a bit of an update around a sale for Manchester United because Reuters, another business outlet, are talking about that now.
[03:58] Uh Mike Keegan, who's been very good on this, has uh given us an update.
[04:00] So we'll get into that as well.
[04:01] But look, first and foremost,
[04:04] Let's do the transfer stories first and then we'll talk about what what what Barada has said about winning the title and what the budget is, etc., etc.
[04:12] My big my big problem with what Bara said is that we won't move away from our plan.
[04:14] Um, which basically means we won't overpay on Anderson.
[04:20] We're happy to put out, you know what, and I'll call it out again.
[04:24] We've got a plan.
[04:26] We're going to stick to our plan and we believe in our plan.
[04:28] Well, if you have a plan not to spend on Anderson, why was it part of your plan to lie to your fan base for nine months that you did want him then?
[04:37] Why was Anderson a top priority as part of your plan for nine months, but now you don't want to pay for him?
[04:42] I don't trust your plan, mate.
[04:44] Because you could have stopped that being out there for nine months, but you didn't because it helped your plan, didn't it, to keep the fans calm.
[04:54] So, don't sit there pontificating about your plan when you're spinning this fan fan base like it's on a [ __ ] roundabout.
[05:03] Anyway, I'll come back to that and I'll come
[05:04] back to the title pledge because I see through it.
[05:09] But, let's talk about some of the transfer stuff that's come in in the last couple of hours.
[05:13] So effectively the Athletic have reported tonight that Manchester sorry West Ham intend to set a asking price of for Fernandez of 80 million pounds.
[05:25] Southampton are going to get a 15% sell on anyway.
[05:28] Uh Man United are interested.
[05:31] Uh PSG are also considering an approach.
[05:34] Now the interesting thing there is the 15% sell on.
[05:36] If West Ham sell Fernandez for50 million pounds, they basically have to give Southampton 7 and a half, which means they only get the money back because they paid 42 anyway.
[05:51] So 50 million pounds, they don't even make any profit.
[05:55] On a 60 million sale, they lose nine.
[06:00] So they only make a 10 million pound profit.
[06:02] on a 70 million
[06:05] pound uh deal then there, you know, it's the more it goes over 60, the more profit West Ham start to make basically.
[06:12] So 50 million it's not worth them doing it.
[06:15] They're only getting their money back.
[06:16] 60 million is a little bit of profit but not a lot.
[06:18] So this is key.
[06:22] Um they feel that he is worth that amount of money.
[06:24] Now look, I I don't know.
[06:26] There was something from West Ham Central tonight that Man United have reached an agreement with Edison.
[06:33] Um their midfield options are um according to Athletic, Mayu, Bruno, Agate.
[06:40] Um sorry that that's not the options.
[06:44] West Ham need to raise 150 million this summer and he is one of their most sellable assets.
[06:47] So they want 80 million pounds.
[06:49] Uh all roads lead to Belaba maybe.
[06:52] Maybe.
[06:57] Um, I think that look,
[06:58] um, I will read your super chat in a minute, mate.
[07:00] But I like to get the ST char started with what we're going to talk about first, so I don't instantly
[07:05] go to super chats, just to let you know.
[07:07] Okay.
[07:12] Um, I think that nobody is going to pay 80 million pounds for Fernandez.
[07:14] Um, it doesn't mean the deal's off.
[07:17] And at the end of the day, in the words of Omar Barada, if Man United have a plan, they should stick to that plan.
[07:24] So if Matteas Fernandez is part of the plan, we should stick to the plan.
[07:29] You see, I can take your words, mate, and I can make you look stupid.
[07:33] You've got a plan.
[07:33] You must stick to your plan.
[07:34] So if Matteas Fernandez was part of your plan, don't walk away from it just because it's a bit expensive.
[07:41] Stick to your plan, mate.
[07:43] Your words, not mine.
[07:43] You stick to your plan.
[07:45] If Fernandez was part of your plan, stick to your plan.
[07:47] Or is actually your plan just not to spend over 70 million quid, in which case we probably will walk away.
[07:54] Um, I think that this is uh an interesting one uh in a sense that I I'm not even worried.
[08:05] worried about this because if he wants to come to Man United and West Ham need to sell, we won't be paying 80 million pounds.
[08:23] So, we also um need to realize that this is part of a process and we have been part of this process before and paid 80 million pounds for somebody Harry Maguire, but we don't need to pay 80 million pounds on Fernandez.
[08:34] What we need to do is secure him and then negotiate with West Ham.
[08:40] And it might take a bit of time and there might be a few add-ons involved.
[08:43] And ultimately if he turns into the next Jiao Neves or the next Fit or the next Bruno Fernandez or the next um Rodri or whoever, then you'd be happy to pay them 80 million 80 million pounds over the next five years.
[08:55] But we're going to have to utilize add-ons and West Ham are going to have to accept that because 80 million pounds for a player that's had one season in the Premier League is ridiculous.
[09:04] So yeah,
[09:09] I'm not one of those morons that would say let's get Bel for 70 instead.
[09:16] Bleaba is [ __ ] compared to Fernandez in my mind and we need to stick to the plan.
[09:21] As Bararda said, we need to stick to the plan.
[09:23] And if he's the plan and he's the plan A, you stick with the plan.
[09:27] You don't move away just because it's going to be expensive.
[09:30] We're going to have to negotiate.
[09:31] We're going to have to use add-ons.
[09:31] But I don't agree with remember with Branweight we basically all agreed that we should walk because Everton wanted 70 million pounds and he wasn't worth 50.
[09:43] We should have walked and we did walk away but we're already walking away from Tanali and Anderson when their price is right.
[09:50] We just don't want to pay it.
[09:51] We can't keep walking away from players this summer.
[09:55] If we're walking away from Tanali and we're walking away from and from Anderson and we're going to walk away from Fernandez, you're at plan D.
[09:59] we can't do that.
[10:04] So, we need to negotiate.
[10:05] That's what we need to do here.
[10:08] Um, second story that came in was Manchester Evening News
[10:10] saying that uh 70 million pounds for Newcastle might make them do a deal for Lewis Hall.
[10:17] I mean, 70 million pounds.
[10:21] I mean, that's the end of that then, isn't it?
[10:22] 70 million pounds for Lewis Hall.
[10:25] Just just offer 35 for Truffett.
[10:28] Like, just just go and get somebody else.
[10:31] We're not paying bloody7 million pounds for Louiswis Hall.
[10:32] Would you pay 70 million pounds for Louiswis Hall?
[10:34] I like Lewis Hall.
[10:35] We're not bloody playing
[10:37] We're not paying 70 million pounds for him.
[10:39] And this is what I mean about silly season because you get silly stories.
[10:41] 70 million pounds for Lewis Hall.
[10:44] We can't bid for Lewis Hall because Newcastle don't want to sell him.
[10:48] So the only reason he becomes available is if he says I want to go and if he wants to go, Newcastle ain't getting 70 million.
[10:54] They didn't even get 70 million pounds for Anthony Gordon with five years on his deal.
[10:58] You're telling me Anthony Gordon, who is at the World Cup, who is a winger and a forward is worth less than Lewis Hall?
[11:07] Come on.
[11:07] You can't you can't pay
[11:10] that amount of money for Lewis Hall.
[11:12] I like Lewis Hall.
[11:14] Um I think we should be looking at him, but 70 million pounds is a joke.
[11:17] But what hap and I agree with DSG, it's 50 to 55 million max for a player like that.
[11:21] But all that's happening is and I this this sort of stuff doesn't worry me at all.
[11:25] This is just positioning, natural positioning.
[11:27] You know, you want 60, so you you you put a price of 80 knowing that they're probably going to offer 45 and you meet halfway.
[11:38] I think that United tax I don't think we will get taxed.
[11:42] I think what we need to do, what we need to keep doing is securing the player like we did with Emma, like we did with Kuna, like we did with Cesco.
[11:49] Remember, we went toe-to-toe with Newcastle for Cesco.
[11:53] They wanted to offer more money, but he wanted to come to us.
[11:57] We just need to learn what we did last year.
[11:59] Get the player on board and then negotiate.
[12:01] If you've got the player, they can't push the price higher.
[12:03] They can't have a bidding war if you get the player.
[12:07] And we did this last summer and we just need
[12:11] to do it again.
[12:14] Um and and and that's that's how I look at it.
[12:16] Lewis Hall should be a player that Man United looking to buy.
[12:17] Fernandez at West Ham should be a player we're looking to buy.
[12:21] But what we do need to do is just make sure that we secure the player.
[12:27] And if we secure the player, then we can negotiate.
[12:28] If we don't secure the player, we'll end up in a bidding war.
[12:31] And Man United don't really want to put themselves into those situations anyway, if we're being completely honest.
[12:38] Uh, I want to talk about Bara's comments.
[12:40] Also want to talk about the sale.
[12:41] So, we'll delve into that.
[12:43] But we've had a few comments coming in uh super chats already.
[12:44] Emily Derry, hope you're doing well.
[12:46] Says, "Wess Hammond Forest can set whatever price they want.
[12:50] Doesn't mean people will bite.
[12:52] That said, there are ways to go get fees up.
[12:55] Yeah.
[12:55] And look, obviously I think with Fernandez, there is competition and West Ham set a very high price and you see who takes a nibble.
[13:02] Um, but if you secure the player, then you're in a much stronger position.
[13:07] If Fernandez says, "I only want to go to Man United," Arsenal and PSG will back off.
[13:10] If he if he's open to
[13:13] Everybody, we'll walk anyway.
[13:16] We we we we won't be able to compete.
[13:18] If he if he says, "I don't know. I like United. I like Arsenal. I like PSG."
[13:20] We may as well walk.
[13:22] We won't win that.
[13:25] The Glazer sale might happen because the reason for sale is four out of the six siblings want to cash out and they're trying to convince Abram and Joel it can happen, says Max Love Cookie.
[13:31] We'll talk about that.
[13:33] Hi Mark, I did some research into Inos today and found out that they are 20 billion in debt, currently being shorted by hedge funds and adversely impacted by the geopolitical situation.
[13:41] We won't have a big summer, says VIR.
[13:46] Mike says, here's my plan.
[13:48] Don't get Fernandez and we go for Scott and go for Tanali or Anderson.
[13:50] Just get what improves us and weakens the opposition, says Mike.
[13:54] Emily Derry's back again.
[13:55] She says it took Arsenal eight years to win the league from when Arteta came in.
[13:57] The Man City project began years before Pep came in and Carrick in post since January will win the league quicker than that.
[14:05] Emily, you couldn't have put it any better.
[14:07] I'm going to answer this question now.
[14:09] Here it is.
[14:12] So, this was from Omar Barada today.
[14:12] He was asked
[14:15] about his project 150 which was winning the league by 2028 and he said one of the goals that we've set out is to win the Premier League the 21st title before 2028.
[14:25] So ideally we do it next season and if not the following season.
[14:31] I think we're in a good place.
[14:33] We've seen some really good progress on the pitch this season.
[14:36] We're going to continue building on that.
[14:38] Investment will be made in different areas of the club.
[14:40] I tell you what, it's a good job Bara doesn't do a standup tour around the UK because Ricky Jves would be out of a job because that's hilarious.
[14:50] That is absolutely hilarious.
[14:53] And I tell you what, I would love to get proved wrong.
[14:56] I would love to get clipped up because we win the league because I look at Arsenal, I look at the celebration, I look at, you know, the excitement in a fan base when you win the league and it's been a long time for us and I just want to taste that.
[15:07] I, you know, I just want to be part of that.
[15:08] I just want to celebrate with Man United fans that we've won the league again.
[15:11] So, I'd love to be wrong about this, but the guy's a bloody comedian.
[15:16] He's an absolute comedian.
[15:18] You know, he's still sticking to winning the title in 2028, and he's saying things like, "If we don't do it next season, then we can do it the following season."
[15:25] Mate, what what progress are you talking about on the pitch?
[15:30] We have less than 50% possession every game.
[15:32] We've had the advantage of playing one game a week when everyone else wasn't, and we've been a bit lucky in some results.
[15:38] We are not on track to winning a bloody Premier League title, mate.
[15:40] Nowhere near it.
[15:43] And next season when we have to play in Europe as well, we'll be even further away.
[15:48] I don't know.
[15:50] I don't know what he's talking about winning the title next season or the season after.
[15:53] Emily's absolutely spot on.
[15:55] How many years does it take Arsenal to win the t title?
[15:57] They were second three years in a row.
[16:00] Man City, it was a project.
[16:02] Liverpool with Klopp, it was a project.
[16:04] I don't know.
[16:04] I just I don't know how a CEO can sit there and say the aim is to win it next year if not next year the year after.
[16:12] Just tell the [ __ ] truth.
[16:15] If I was the CEO, I would have sat there and I
[16:16] would have said, "Look, when we came in, the project was to win it by 2028."
[16:22] But look, I'm not going to I'm not going to lie to our fans.
[16:26] They're intelligent people.
[16:28] This is going to be a big challenge.
[16:33] And I would I don't want to sit here and say we're going to win the league next year or the year after and then not deliver on that.
[16:37] Um I I I my my intention is to make Man United win the league and if we do win it next year or the year after, amazing.
[16:44] But we've got to be realistic.
[16:45] You know, we've just sacked a manager in January.
[16:47] We're starting another project with Michael.
[16:50] You know, he is going to need support.
[16:52] We need to support him.
[16:54] And we're back in the Champions League next season for the first time in a couple of years.
[16:58] Um, and we want to stay in there.
[17:00] So, it's not about winning the title before 2028.
[17:02] If we do that, great.
[17:04] It's about winning the title.
[17:07] And, you know, honestly, that we're probably not quite where we need to be at the moment, but we intend to be there.
[17:11] But to double down on, well, if not next year, the year after.
[17:15] I mean, mate, we're nowhere near winning the
[17:16] title.
[17:19] To win the league next year, we would need a right back, a left back, a center back, three midfielders, a left winger, a backup striker, a backup goalkeeper, and probably, if I'm being completely honest, um, another midfielder.
[17:32] We won't get all of those players.
[17:34] So, how can you even pretend that you're going to win the league next year when, you know, you're not writing checks for people anyway?
[17:39] And also also another great point, we need a left back, a right back, a center back, three midfielders, a left winger, a striker, and a backup goalkeeper.
[17:47] Yeah.
[17:49] Just because you get all of them, what what about the quality of the left back?
[17:53] What about the quality of the right back?
[17:54] What about the quality of the left winger?
[17:57] What about the quality of the midfielders?
[17:59] You don't we won't get all the players we need, and we certainly won't get them at the quality needed to win the league.
[18:03] You can't say, "Oh, um, ideally we win the league next year, but if not, the following season."
[18:11] But you won't write a check for Tanali.
[18:12] You won't write a check for Anderson.
[18:15] You can't you can't say that.
[18:15] It's comedic.
[18:18] It's hilarious.
[18:19] It's absolutely hilarious.
[18:21] And to all those people who go, "Oh, fair play for him sitting down and talking to the fans."
[18:23] Is the CEO.
[18:26] He's the bloody CEO.
[18:27] He should be doing it once a month.
[18:30] But I mean, look, believe what you want to believe.
[18:32] I would love to be wrong, but I'm telling you now, if I'm the CEO of Manchester United, I'm not saying ideally we win the league next season, if not the year after.
[18:40] I mean, get real.
[18:43] Get real.
[18:45] We're nowhere near winning the league.
[18:48] And also, I don't think even the staunchest Carrick fans would say it looks like we're going to win the league.
[18:50] We don't even know what our style of play is.
[18:54] It was counterattacking football because that's what he did.
[18:55] He might not do that next season.
[18:58] We might play better.
[19:00] We might play worse.
[19:01] Uh Ashan says, "Could you ring my read my super chat?"
[19:03] I'm coming through that, mate.
[19:05] Is it just me who finds this worrying?
[19:06] Spent ages getting Edison whilst players are getting advanced talks.
[19:09] Uh we're linked with with it feels like a mess,
[19:11] says Alex.
[19:16] Um I'll come back to that because Bararda
[19:18] Will does talk about the plan.
[19:20] We'll talk about that.
[19:21] You mentioned yesterday some broadcast mentioned your channel.
[19:23] Also, you think we're short up front since we're in the Champions League this year.
[19:26] Who do we go for?
[19:28] Says Sam. I ain't got no idea, mate.
[19:29] Who we go for as a striker.
[19:33] Um, I've heard about ego ego Thiago.
[19:35] I can't see that happening.
[19:36] I mean, he's part of the bloody Brazil squad, isn't he?
[19:38] I'll forever love United as we all do, but sometimes during the transfer window, it's like a kick in the nuts.
[19:41] It's painful.
[19:42] But we're live and direct this evening, says Daniel Thompson.
[19:45] Thank you very much, pal Garfield.
[19:47] Welcome to the members club.
[19:50] Thank you so much.
[19:52] Um, uh, can we have a shout out to our Tony Swinton who is in recovery from surgery, says Mike.
[19:54] Shout out to Tony.
[19:57] Uh, get well soon, pal.
[19:59] Uh JBS says, "Happy 22 months as a member.
[20:01] I'm excited for the summer, even though I'm not sure with the people in the club.
[20:05] Uh but I'm looking forward to if the Glazes sell the team.
[20:06] We will talk about that.
[20:11] Uh Bara looks like Nos Veratu on the thumbnail.
[20:13] Whoever that is.
[20:15] Mike, let's remember they want cheap on coach.
[20:17] If they don't get the players, Carrick won't save them from all the
[20:18] spin. And Glennios need to stop talking
[20:20] big and start delivering or this is
[20:22] going to implode and appointing a cheap
[20:24] option as manager will blow up in their
[20:25] face as Mike. And Arshan says, "Um, hi
[20:28] Mark. Uh, United stand. I was watching
[20:30] Ben Jacobs last night about City bid for
[20:32] Ed Anderson. I was like, all right." But
[20:34] in the end, he said Man United feels
[20:35] Anderson is too expensive. I was like,
[20:37] "Here we go again. Cheap deals, low
[20:39] wages. Same United." Look, if you want
[20:41] to win the league, you buy the best
[20:42] players, don't you? I mean, when Arsenal
[20:45] needed a midfielder, did they say to
[20:48] West Ham, "Dean Rice is too expensive at
[20:50] 105 million. I think we'll go and buy
[20:54] Calvin Phillips instead." No, they went
[20:55] and bought Declan Rice and he's just won
[20:57] their player of the year. I I I just
[21:00] cannot get on board with we don't want
[21:03] to overpay. I don't I don't know why M
[21:05] Well, I do know why because we're a
[21:07] business and we're in debt uh and they
[21:10] don't like spending money really, but
[21:12] you know, you spend 100 million pounds
[21:14] on Declan Rice, you win the league and
[21:16] he's your player of the year.
[21:18] Spend 100 million pounds on Tenali or
[21:20] Anderson it's logical. Man United fan
[21:23] for life and Joshua Lee coming uh
[21:25] Cunningham Major thanks for joining the
[21:27] members club. Is it a coincidence bara
[21:30] same time as the Glazes says United 777.
[21:33] Um oh in relation to the sale. Yeah I
[21:36] mean I think it's all spin isn't it if
[21:37] I'm being honest. Would you take
[21:38] Rashford back Mark says Omar? No. Isn't
[21:41] quantity over quality what Spurs did?
[21:43] Says Max Loves Cookie. I said this last
[21:45] night. They got all that bail money and
[21:47] they bought seven players and most of
[21:49] them flopped. Yeah. Uh Mike says
[21:52] Plymouth will win the league before we
[21:54] do. And don't be surprised if United
[21:56] only get one midfielder, says LJ.
[21:59] Sign Rogers is the 10. Push Bruno back
[22:01] to an eight. Bruno said on Steven
[22:03] Bartlett podcast he prefers playing
[22:05] deeper.
[22:06] I didn't know he'd said that. I can see
[22:08] Villa winning the league before we do,
[22:10] says Alexander. Uh did you hear Omar
[22:13] Barada's stadium comments? I didn't. I I
[22:15] haven't se I've got a lot of his
[22:17] comments to go through in a minute, but
[22:18] I haven't seen what he said about the
[22:19] stadium. So that would be news to me.
[22:22] Uh, one and only says Coxy and Nos
[22:24] Farada smoking their socks again. I
[22:26] don't know who this Noser is. Um,
[22:29] Gabrielle gifted five memberships. Thank
[22:31] you very much. And Rory says he's not
[22:33] going to say we've changed that 150 plan
[22:35] and now don't think we will win the
[22:36] league until 2035. You're just moaning.
[22:38] I thought he spoke well, says Rory.
[22:40] Rory, absolutely got no problem with
[22:44] your comment and I won't be rude enough
[22:46] to call you a moaner. So, you know, I
[22:48] think you've lost your argument straight
[22:50] away by saying I'm moaning. Not moaning,
[22:52] I just have a different opinion to you.
[22:54] I respect your opinion. If you like his
[22:56] interview and you don't think he should
[22:58] back off on the 150 plan, that's
[23:00] absolutely fine. I've already explained
[23:02] my point. If you can't understand and
[23:04] respect that, then, you know, that's
[23:05] absolutely fine. I don't think he spoke
[23:07] well. I think he spoke bollocks. Um, I
[23:10] think he contradicted himself, and I'll
[23:12] prove it in a minute. And also I think
[23:14] that he shouldn't
[23:16] in business if you make a projection if
[23:19] you say to your boss I'll have that um
[23:23] I'll have that report done by next
[23:25] Tuesday and while you're doing the
[23:27] report it's bigger than you thought and
[23:30] if you get it done by Tuesday it won't
[23:31] be done to the best of your ability. You
[23:33] should say to your boss I'm not going to
[23:35] get it done by Tuesday because of this
[23:37] this and this. I will get it done by
[23:39] Friday and it'll be better than it would
[23:41] have been if it goes in on Tuesday.
[23:42] That's honesty. That's integrity.
[23:45] You can be honest. I think by sticking
[23:48] to the project 150, that says to me,
[23:51] this is somebody that doesn't dare back
[23:55] off from what he said before, even
[23:56] though it's logical. I'll love it, Rory,
[23:59] if we win the league before 2028. But
[24:03] how are we winning the league next
[24:04] season?
[24:06] How is a team that's not played in
[24:08] Europe for a year going to deal with
[24:10] Europe and a title race when it's not
[24:12] even a title winning team? So, I can't
[24:14] see it being next year and then the
[24:17] season after we'll be ready to win the
[24:18] league, will we? I just I can't see it.
[24:21] I can't see it. And I think a bit of
[24:22] honesty, Rory, would be better than, you
[24:25] know, looking an absolute idiot when it
[24:27] doesn't happen. Also, Rory, what if next
[24:31] season Carrick fails and we don't get
[24:34] into Europe? Old Barada looks like an
[24:37] absolute idiot. Now, I'm hoping that's
[24:39] not going to happen, but what if Carrick
[24:41] struggles next year and we finish
[24:42] eighth? Eighth next season and we're not
[24:45] in Europe. Well, we didn't win the
[24:47] league then, did we? And we certainly
[24:48] won't win it the year after. So, you're
[24:50] almost putting a bit of
[24:52] You're basically saying to Carrick, he's
[24:54] got to win the title in the next two
[24:55] years.
[24:57] That's what annoys me about it, Rory.
[24:59] You're basically saying the plan is to
[25:01] win the title in the next two years. in
[25:03] Carrick's first two years. I mean, no
[25:05] pressure, mate. You've got to win the
[25:07] league. I think I think that's how are
[25:09] you how how are you helping this manager
[25:12] by basically doubling down on we're
[25:14] going to win the league before 2028? I
[25:16] think it's mad that Carrick doesn't need
[25:17] that pressure. No manager deserves that
[25:20] pressure. Um, do you think the story
[25:23] that came out today about the Glazers
[25:25] might sell up his strategy to distract
[25:26] the France from transfer talks? Well,
[25:28] we'll we'll find out, Dino. We'll find
[25:30] out. Just on the sale, Mike Keegan has
[25:34] uh done an article today saying that
[25:36] everybody at Man United is denying that
[25:38] the Glazes are looking to sell. Um
[25:40] there's no talks with people like Qatar
[25:42] who looked at the club before. So it
[25:45] looks like it's a load of spin. I you
[25:46] know, as I said this morning, I ain't
[25:48] going to get excited about it. I think
[25:50] we've been spun so many times on the
[25:52] sale of the club. I'm not getting
[25:54] excited about it. No. Um, Ross says,
[25:58] "It's haggling, Mark, but Inosios don't
[26:00] seem capable of doing that." And Desert
[26:02] Haunter says, "But Mark, you previously
[26:04] mentioned to negotiate club to club
[26:06] first, not club to player, which is best
[26:08] in your opinion with the World Cup
[26:09] ongoing." Sorry, let me let me get this
[26:11] one. Thanks for super chat, pal. You'd
[26:13] previously mentioned to negotiate club
[26:15] to club first, not club to player. Which
[26:17] is best in your opinion with World Cup
[26:19] ongoing? Um, I think every every
[26:23] situation is is unique. I mean, ideally,
[26:27] I would be negotiating with West Ham
[26:29] first
[26:32] on a fee in an ideal world, but West Ham
[26:37] are chucking a high price out. So, your
[26:40] next your next thing is to get the
[26:42] player on board. Um,
[26:45] yeah,
[26:47] diff different scenarios you can do it
[26:49] different ways. I think when West Hammer
[26:50] are throwing a silly price out,
[26:52] negotiate with the player, get the
[26:54] player on board. Um, Bayern being linked
[26:58] to Nathaniel Brown, 50 million euros.
[27:00] It'd have been good, but he'd probably
[27:01] pick By over if they're pushing now,
[27:03] says Smoggy. Yeah, it wasn't his price.
[27:05] 60 million pounds with us as well.
[27:10] Harry says, "I'm not totally sold on
[27:12] Scott just yet. He has the talent, but
[27:14] no experience in big competitions." Same
[27:16] as Fernandez and the Labour. Then with
[27:18] Manu and Scott as a midfield dua, I
[27:20] don't see as strong as Tanali or
[27:22] Anderson. Oh no, Harry, I don't think
[27:23] anybody wants to sign Scott or Fernandez
[27:26] as our main marquee. I think it's
[27:28] Edison, Fernandez or Scott and then
[27:31] Chuini, Tanali or Anderson. I completely
[27:33] agree with you there. Um,
[27:37] thank you very much. Um,
[27:39] twin brother of Daniel Thompson says,
[27:41] "You lot are jealous. Manchester is
[27:43] blue. We're getting Anderson and we own
[27:44] the Premier League. I'm the superior
[27:46] one." Oh god, I actually do like that.
[27:48] It's a good in joke. It's a good in
[27:50] joke. Um, Pirate Centipede says, "Let's
[27:53] go for the title. Have some ambition.
[27:55] The league is shite. It's time to
[27:56] strike." I hope you're right. Big D
[27:58] Campbell, thank you very much for
[27:59] joining the members club. And Agash
[28:02] Akash says, "Morale of the players when
[28:03] they come back after the World Cup will
[28:05] be down in the drain with the quantity
[28:07] of quality tactics." And official Reic
[28:12] Robert Leandowski says, "What about me?
[28:13] Why is no one asking about me anymore?
[28:15] I'm still available for free. Give me a
[28:17] job. And Brian says, I think I think I'm
[28:19] pretty sure Leandowski is playing in the
[28:21] World Cup, isn't he? Didn't Poland
[28:23] qualify? I'm pretty sure they did. Um,
[28:25] and Brian says, I can see City going all
[28:27] out for Tanali and United signing
[28:29] Fernandez with Chuini finalized on the
[28:31] opening day fixture for PR purposes, uh,
[28:33] says Brian. Tanali for 100 million is
[28:36] better than Elliot for one 125 though,
[28:38] says Mario Franco. Um, I tell you what,
[28:41] I'll tell you what. Let me just talk
[28:42] about that for a moment because somebody
[28:43] didn't mention it in the live chat. Um,
[28:46] please do share the video by the way.
[28:47] We've got nearly 10,000 people watching
[28:49] Thursday night. Loving the show. Still
[28:51] got a lot of comments to get into about
[28:53] Bararda and what he said as well in the
[28:55] interview. Um, look, if you know, I saw
[28:57] Beth put a tweet out today saying that
[29:00] um, and I don't want to get misqued
[29:02] here. Beth said about the interview with
[29:05] um, Bararda. She says, "I'm going to be
[29:07] honest. I actually respect this
[29:09] interview very highly. fronting up and
[29:11] speaking to the fans goes a long way.
[29:13] So, look, I'm not going to I'm not going
[29:15] to say that there's a prop. You might
[29:16] agree with Beth on that. I mean, I would
[29:18] say fronting up and speaking to the fans
[29:20] once a year goes a long way. He's paid a
[29:22] lot of money as a CEO, mate. I think he
[29:24] should be doing it once a month, to be
[29:25] honest. Um, but look, you know, some
[29:27] people do like it. The interesting thing
[29:29] I I wanted to pose the question to is if
[29:34] Man City say we only need one midfielder
[29:38] um and we're not paying 105 million or
[29:41] 110 million for Anderson so we're going
[29:43] for Tanali and they sign Tali and they
[29:46] don't want Fernan they don't want
[29:48] Anderson
[29:49] what do we do
[29:53] if Man City go and sign Tali and they
[29:55] don't want Anderson what do we Cuz the
[29:58] hilarious thing is we won't do anything.
[30:02] We won't we we will go oh
[30:06] cuz I I'd be sat there with all of you
[30:08] lot going hold on a minute your top
[30:10] priority that you've told everybody is
[30:13] your top priority for nine months is
[30:16] there
[30:17] right there and nobody's in for him. Man
[30:21] City have gone and bought Tanali. So
[30:24] what are you going to do now? because
[30:25] that's your top priority. You told
[30:27] Fitritzio it's your top priority. You
[30:29] told Ben Jacobs it's your top priority.
[30:32] You've put it out there for nine months
[30:33] that he's your top priority and now he's
[30:35] free. What are you going to do? Not free
[30:38] in the sense that he's free but like you
[30:40] know what I mean? We It would be
[30:42] hilarious if Man City went and got Tali
[30:44] and didn't go for Anderson because
[30:45] nobody else is going to go for Anderson.
[30:48] So we'd have a free path at it but we
[30:50] wouldn't do anything because we don't
[30:51] want to pay more than 80 million quid.
[30:54] So, he'd end up staying at Forest,
[30:55] wouldn't he?
[30:57] And this is what I mean about
[31:00] the plan. We must, and I'll read I'll
[31:03] read this out actually because this is
[31:04] what um this is what Omar had to say
[31:07] about um transfers
[31:09] uh in this interview. So, he basically
[31:12] said that um
[31:15] let me get the words right. Let me get
[31:17] the words right. Um
[31:22] that's about Amarim He said we have to
[31:24] be disciplined. It's simple. We have a
[31:28] plan and we know what we can invest in
[31:31] and we have to stick to that.
[31:35] In some cases, we may decide to make an
[31:37] investment knowing it's the right thing
[31:38] for not just the next two or three
[31:40] years, but the next 10 years. But
[31:42] clearly, we need to stay very focused on
[31:44] what we're trying to achieve. So, let me
[31:46] get this right. Right. We have to be
[31:48] disciplined. It's simple. We have a
[31:50] plan. We know what we can invest in. and
[31:53] we have to stick to that. So we have to
[31:54] stick to the plan. Um in some cases we
[31:57] may decide to make an investment knowing
[31:59] it's the right thing for the ne not just
[32:01] the next two or three years but the next
[32:03] 10 years. But clearly we need to stay
[32:04] very focused on what we're trying to
[32:06] achieve. You've literally just described
[32:08] Elliot Anderson. You know we have a
[32:11] plan. We must stick to the plan. Well
[32:13] nine months you've been telling
[32:14] everybody your priorities Elliot
[32:16] Anderson. And then he goes on to say
[32:19] sometimes it's not about the next two or
[32:21] three years. It's investing in something
[32:22] for the next 10 years. So Elliot
[32:24] Anderson is a player that we've put out
[32:26] there that we've wanted for nine months
[32:28] our top priority and he's 23. So you'd
[32:32] be investing in him for the next 5 to 10
[32:35] years.
[32:37] So you you're saying stick to the plan
[32:40] and you're talking about investments for
[32:42] 5 to 10 years, which he literally is,
[32:44] but then you've deviated from your own
[32:46] plan.
[32:50] I don't know. Maybe. But but but but
[32:53] also does that not sound like the labor?
[32:57] We've got to stick to a plan. Um it's
[33:00] not about the next two or three years.
[33:01] It's next 10 years. Maybe maybe maybe
[33:03] it's on about labor. I don't know. He
[33:05] says it's very important that you don't
[33:07] let the market or agents dictate what we
[33:09] should be doing. when I look at the
[33:11] football leadership team plus the
[33:13] investment we've made in Sansson Sony
[33:15] director of data data Dean um we're in a
[33:18] pretty good shape and I think the
[33:19] quality of the decisions will continue
[33:21] to improve as the team settles and we
[33:23] continue investing in those areas I tell
[33:25] you what you know when I listen to Bara
[33:27] he needs to be right he's definitely a
[33:30] guy that believes in what they're doing
[33:33] and won't deviate away from it and
[33:36] that's absolutely fine in business and
[33:39] in life
[33:41] as long as you're right. But when you're
[33:44] wrong, it becomes a problem because they
[33:46] don't. They're tunnelvisioned. They're
[33:47] like, "We trust what we're doing and
[33:49] this is what we're going to do." Now,
[33:51] they've got absolutely no track record
[33:53] of success.
[33:55] All right. Third place in the Premier
[33:57] League, they can claim that. But their
[33:59] first season, bottom half of the table,
[34:03] lost the Europa League final. Second
[34:05] season, third in the Premier League. So
[34:07] they've got this plan
[34:10] fine data Dean all this lot.
[34:14] It has no track record.
[34:17] It doesn't. So it's like somebody who
[34:20] talks a good game but
[34:26] we we we need to know if we need to see
[34:27] if it's going to work. They're obviously
[34:29] very convinced that their plan is going
[34:31] to work. um the data driven stuff, the
[34:34] price barriers,
[34:36] the players they're looking at. I think
[34:38] Belaba fits into that. It's like if the
[34:40] data says B labor, we can we've got to
[34:42] ignore other noise. We've got to ignore
[34:45] the market and stick to our plan. So,
[34:48] look, it's brave. It is brave. I agree.
[34:51] I You know what? I haven't got a problem
[34:52] with this. I'm not I'm not moaning about
[34:54] this. I'm saying like we've got no track
[34:56] record to know whether it's going to
[34:57] work. As I said, third place in two
[35:00] years is is the is the pinnacle. Um,
[35:03] it's not like we're playing great
[35:04] football either. Um, apart from Bruno
[35:07] Fernandez, I think the only consistent
[35:10] performer is Bruno and they didn't buy
[35:11] him. So, time's going to tell with this,
[35:15] but it sounds like they have an idea of
[35:18] what they think should happen and
[35:20] they're going to ignore external noise
[35:22] about it. Um, which is great if you win.
[35:26] But like I say, if you start to lose and
[35:28] and also as well when you think about
[35:30] it,
[35:33] why why why didn't any of this work
[35:35] under Amarim?
[35:37] Why didn't this work with Ten Arg, you
[35:39] know? Um, sorry, I've got an itchy nose
[35:42] now. Patrick Lint says, "Have a positive
[35:44] outlook is fine, but too many Oh god, I
[35:47] really have got an itchy nose. I haven't
[35:48] got a piece of tissue either." Um
[35:53] um oh god
[35:57] I think I've got a nasal hair that's a
[35:59] bit long. My eyes are going to water.
[36:02] Patrick, I'm sorry. Uh I'm building up
[36:03] your super chat. Patrick says, "Have a
[36:05] positive outlook is fine, but too many
[36:07] seem to see the bright side in doing the
[36:09] board bare minimum. This interview is
[36:11] that the bare minimum just like the
[36:12] window will probably be." Oh, mate mate
[36:14] look respect.
[36:18] Some people can't do what I'm about to
[36:19] do here, and I'm sure you can do it,
[36:20] Patrick, as well. If you like that
[36:22] interview and you feel positive and you
[36:24] feel optimistic, well done to you. Well
[36:27] done. I'm not I'm literally not going to
[36:29] take the piss. Well done.
[36:32] What I see is a load of noise,
[36:35] a load of swerve, a load of spin, and a
[36:38] load of trust me, bro.
[36:41] And if it works, I will applaud it.
[36:45] And if it doesn't work, I will be right.
[36:48] And I don't trust them. And I don't
[36:50] trust him. And I don't trust Will Cox.
[36:52] And I don't trust the Glazers. And I
[36:53] don't trust Inos. So to me, it's just
[36:56] noise until it becomes something. I
[36:59] can't trust we're going to win the
[37:00] league next year. I can't trust they
[37:02] know what they're doing until they start
[37:04] to deliver because that's football,
[37:05] isn't it? Like you you don't you don't
[37:09] you don't put the club in the position
[37:10] it is and then get trust to put it
[37:12] right. I personally think the best, you
[37:15] know, if somebody said to me, "Magic
[37:17] wand, you can change this club
[37:19] tomorrow." Do you think Bararda is my
[37:22] CEO? Do you think Will Cox is my
[37:24] director of football? Do you think the
[37:25] Glazes and Sim Radcliffe are still here?
[37:28] That's what I mean. And look, maybe some
[37:30] of you would still keep Bararda as your
[37:33] CEO. Maybe some of you would would keep
[37:35] Sir Jim in charge. If I could make a
[37:37] change at Man United tomorrow, it none
[37:40] of them would be there. None of Carrick.
[37:44] I'm not an ass. He's got a bloody
[37:46] contract. I'd give him a chance. Um
[37:49] but everybody else be gone. Uh thoughts
[37:52] on Tyler Fletcher making the Scotland
[37:54] squad? I I think um
[37:59] I um
[38:10] I think Tyler Fletcher, it's great for
[38:11] him. Yeah, I was trying to think of
[38:13] something more profound to say, but as
[38:14] I've said to you about Fletcher before,
[38:16] I don't really know what he is. I know
[38:18] we had that cameo against Belaba, but I
[38:21] was more focused on how [ __ ] Belaba was
[38:23] than how good Fletcher is. So, you know,
[38:25] good luck to him. Hopefully, he can he
[38:26] can break his way into the team over the
[38:28] next few weeks, next few few years. Um,
[38:33] Max says, "Our director of data is
[38:35] Michael Sanszone. He was Lewis
[38:36] Hamilton's performance engineer when he
[38:38] was with Lewis. Never won
[38:40] championships." I mean, you know what? I
[38:42] don't want to be harsh because if he
[38:44] ends up being good, fair play to him.
[38:46] But why is a Formula One data analyst
[38:50] going to help Man United in in football?
[38:53] Um, my stance is, you know,
[38:58] my stance on football is because I've
[39:00] been around it all my life. I mean, I
[39:02] remember being like six years old and
[39:04] having, you know, the Sabutio pitch with
[39:06] the man the little men that you flick
[39:08] around. I remember on a Friday night I
[39:10] wasn't allowed to use it because my
[39:11] granddad would get it out in the living
[39:13] room with um with my uncles who played
[39:15] for his team and he'd have other people
[39:17] around and they'd be there he'd be down
[39:19] there on the studio thing, you know,
[39:20] marking out the pitch and I'd be
[39:21] watching it saying when when can I have
[39:23] it back? So I grew up around amateur
[39:25] football. Um it's such a simple game.
[39:29] That's why you get people like Sam
[39:31] Alladise who are successful and people
[39:32] like Pep who are successful. Football's
[39:35] a really simple game. I'm not convinced
[39:37] about data. I'm really not. And but
[39:40] look, it's a new world. Some people
[39:43] weren't convinced about the internet. No
[39:45] CEO should be saying when a team is
[39:47] going to win something, especially when
[39:48] they're not willing to spend to
[39:49] strengthen the team properly, says Big
[39:51] D. And I know, and that's what concerns
[39:53] me is that I don't see the club behaving
[39:56] like Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, or
[39:58] Chelsea.
[40:00] And yet our CEO is doing something
[40:03] Chelsea CEO is not doing and Liverpool
[40:05] CEO is not doing. He's saying we we can
[40:08] win the league next year or the year
[40:09] after. But then in the market and on the
[40:12] pitch, we're not behaving like it. So
[40:15] why is he saying it? Is he Is he just
[40:17] scared? Is he just trying to buy time?
[40:19] Is he just trying to spin? I don't know
[40:21] why he's sitting there saying if it's
[40:22] not next year, it could be the year
[40:23] after. We're not behaving like a team
[40:25] that can win the league, you know, in
[40:27] the market yet. So look, if he thinks
[40:30] we're going to win the league next year
[40:31] or the year after, I presume we are
[40:33] signing Louiswis Hall, Tali, Chimini,
[40:35] and Anderson.
[40:37] Um, an says the owners and spin
[40:38] merchants do everything they can to
[40:40] prevent the fans from peeing away,
[40:41] peeling away the facade and seeing how
[40:43] really rotten it is by creating buzz and
[40:45] giving reporter stories to keep them and
[40:47] as distracted as an
[40:50] uh Patrick Lynch says, "Having a
[40:52] positive outlook is fine, but too many
[40:54] seem to see the bright side in doing the
[40:55] bare minimum." I've done that one for
[40:58] Patrick. Uh, what plan? Says Laura. Is
[41:00] it plan Z? Certainly not plan A. And Ke
[41:03] says, I don't like it when we put so
[41:05] much hope in one player.
[41:07] Well, is that not the definition of
[41:09] Bruno Fernandez.
[41:14] Um, all the JM says, "All these top
[41:16] clubs being linked with Hall, Tali,
[41:18] Gordon, and others just makes me think
[41:20] they're all Dan Ash with signings and we
[41:22] let him go," says JM. Uh, Malpa says,
[41:25] "Beth has joined the dark side." No, you
[41:28] know, you know what? I You know what it
[41:30] is? And this is why I'm not going to
[41:31] disrespect those people. I think some
[41:34] people are just desperate for it to
[41:36] work. And some of us are cynics. And
[41:41] when you're a cynic, you see the reality
[41:46] and you accept it. When you're an
[41:49] optimist,
[41:50] you don't want to deal with the reality
[41:52] because you want to pretend that things
[41:56] are going to be okay. And when I say
[41:58] pretend, that's not being offensive
[42:00] because that pretense might become a
[42:02] reality as well. Um, I think some people
[42:05] are just so tired of failure that they
[42:08] want to believe it's going to get
[42:10] better. And I'm not going to begrudge
[42:11] those people that. Like I say, I'll love
[42:14] it if we win the league next year or the
[42:15] year after. I'll love it. Um, but I
[42:18] can't see it.
[42:21] Rory's back. He says, "Fair point from
[42:23] you and sorry for being rude and maybe
[42:24] naive me of me, but I think they are
[42:26] building a squad capable of competing
[42:28] whoever the manager is." Rory, I don't
[42:30] think you are naive. I mean, as I say, I
[42:32] think Beth might agree with you. I think
[42:33] other people, Robert McCormack, will
[42:34] probably agree with you. Um, I I I ain't
[42:37] got a problem with with people that
[42:39] think this is going to work. Um, I just
[42:41] find I just find it quite funny what
[42:43] Omar Bara said. That's all. Uh, it's
[42:45] 3:30 a.m. here in Malaysia. Love the
[42:48] show, says Brandon. Yep. Let us know
[42:49] where you're watching from around the
[42:51] world. Thank you everybody. Uh, James
[42:53] says, "I can't believe actually this
[42:55] time next week we will have to do the
[42:57] show at seven because we will be live on
[42:59] that's football this time next week.
[43:01] It'll be halfime in the first ever World
[43:03] Cup, the first World Cup game. Can't
[43:05] believe how quick it's coming round."
[43:07] Um, feels like five minutes ago we were
[43:10] sacking Amarim at Christmas. Uh actually
[43:13] Bararda said something interesting about
[43:15] Amarim. I'll come on to that. Uh SJ
[43:17] James says Salonana Xerxy and Binda
[43:20] signed Pope and Vlahovic obviously also
[43:23] signed two midfielders Anderson and
[43:25] Fernandez. Okay. Uh Emily Derry says
[43:28] Carrick read Bararda's comments and
[43:30] quietly calmly [ __ ] himself. God knows
[43:32] what Willox thought. The bottom line is
[43:34] it won't be Bara or Wilcox who paid the
[43:36] price for this title in 2028. You know
[43:38] what, Emily? I've not heard anybody say
[43:40] this apart from me and now you. I think
[43:42] when your CEO sits there doing an
[43:45] interview that everybody's going to
[43:46] watch and he speaks about project 150
[43:49] and if we don't win the league next
[43:50] year, let's hopefully win it the year
[43:52] after. I think if you're Michael Carrick
[43:55] and he might be sat on a beach
[43:56] somewhere, you've got to sit there and
[43:58] go, "Cheers mate. Thanks for that." I
[44:01] mean way to go and set I mean our CEO
[44:06] has put it into the public ether about
[44:09] winning the league next year and if not
[44:10] the year after you that's not like
[44:14] that's not that's not it's not Dowo
[44:15] doing it you know after a few pints in
[44:18] Portugal or you know it's not Martinez
[44:21] doing it having won the World Cup with
[44:22] Argentina and he's you know he's high on
[44:24] winning that's the CEO saying if not
[44:28] next year the year after and you're like
[44:30] it's all like of Michael Carrick. I'm
[44:32] going the [ __ ] is he on about? I'm just
[44:35] like what? Um anyway, I'll move on
[44:38] because there's some other comments I
[44:39] wanted to delve into. Um he did speak
[44:42] about Amarim. He said, "Look, I actually
[44:44] think look some of what Bara said was
[44:46] okay." Um I just think some of it he's
[44:50] not he is he is what people don't
[44:52] realize about Bara is as well he is work
[44:55] experience as well. He's the same as
[44:56] Will Cox. He's never been a CEO before.
[45:00] A CEO is not a COO. What he did at Man
[45:03] City, there was a lot of power and a lot
[45:05] of experience around him. At Man United,
[45:08] he is the guy. And around him, he's got
[45:10] Sir Jim Radcliffe, who's sunk two clubs
[45:12] already. He's got Will Cox who's never
[45:15] been a director of football before. So,
[45:17] he's got a lot of responsibility and not
[45:20] a lot of people around him who know what
[45:21] they're doing like he had at Man City.
[45:23] So, I think some things he's good at,
[45:25] some things he comes across as a little
[45:26] bit naive at. Also, he's not a Man
[45:28] United. He's not a Man United man, is
[45:30] he? He's not a Man United fan. He's not
[45:31] a Man United man. He's a He's somebody
[45:33] that's come in into a corporate position
[45:36] because he'd previously done well at
[45:38] another club. He said on Amarim, I think
[45:41] Amarim deserves a lot of credit for many
[45:42] things. He went through a very difficult
[45:44] season. He was put under difficult
[45:45] circumstances, but he did help raise the
[45:47] standards in the dressing room. I do
[45:49] think he's going to be a successful
[45:50] coach, and I wish him all the best. I
[45:52] respect Bararda for saying that because
[45:54] I think Ruben Amarim did change that
[45:56] dressing room. Um, and it's nice that
[45:59] the CEO acknowledges that because
[46:01] personally I think Will Cox would try
[46:02] and claim it. Um, but you know this is
[46:06] what I mean. Not everything Bararda said
[46:08] was nonsense. I think some of it was
[46:10] laughable. I think some of it was
[46:13] reasonable and um, you know, I think
[46:16] there's a lot of reason to criticize
[46:18] Amarim, but and there's a lot of reason
[46:21] to criticize Bara, but not everything he
[46:24] said was bad and not everything Amarim
[46:26] did was bad. and that, you know, hello
[46:28] people. Welcome to the world. I'm I'm in
[46:30] I'm well into my 40s now. And you know,
[46:33] it's very rare that you come across
[46:35] something that's totally bad. Um, and
[46:38] it's very rare that you come across
[46:39] something that's totally good. Uh, it
[46:41] normally is nuanced. Um, so I thought it
[46:43] was nice of him to mention Amarim
[46:45] because the dressing room is a lot
[46:47] better now and Michael Carrick has
[46:49] definitely benefited from that as well.
[46:51] Um, he said he spoke about Carrick. He
[46:53] says, "I didn't know him before he took
[46:54] up his role. So, it was during the
[46:55] interview that I met him for the first
[46:56] time. I'd heard good things about him
[46:58] and it turned out to be true. I think
[47:00] he's earned the right to continue
[47:01] leading the team over the next two
[47:03] years. Um, also he said that uh we did
[47:08] feel that we needed to make a change and
[47:09] in the end it's worked out with Michael
[47:12] Carrick. Well, it's not worked out yet,
[47:13] is it? There's a hell of a lot to do and
[47:16] you've for it to work out. I tell you
[47:17] what, what I would say is it's not
[47:19] worked out with Michael Carrick and it
[47:20] might not work out with Michael Carrick.
[47:22] And I tell you what, it won't work out
[47:23] with Michael Carrick if you don't do
[47:24] your job. Um, it's not on Michael
[47:26] Carrick to make Man United successful.
[47:28] No manager will make Man United
[47:30] successful if he doesn't get the backing
[47:32] of the board. Um, on the financial
[47:35] situation at Man United, he said, "We
[47:37] had to make tough decisions when I first
[47:38] came in, but the worst is now behind us.
[47:40] We're in a much better position to
[47:42] continue growing and investing to bring
[47:43] the club where it belongs." Well, again,
[47:47] if we're in a much stronger position to
[47:50] keep investing, why is Elliot Anderson a
[47:53] priority and we're not interested? Why
[47:55] is Tanali a good signing and we won't
[47:57] pay? So, you know, we do need to invest
[48:00] in my opinion. Um, also on the transfer
[48:03] window, he said, I think the template of
[48:05] what we did last summer will be
[48:07] replicated. You always go into a window
[48:09] and you don't know how you're going to
[48:10] come out of it, but you have to be
[48:12] really prepared. You have to have a
[48:13] clear pan plan. You have to know exactly
[48:15] what positions you're looking to
[48:16] strengthen and you also have to be
[48:18] prepared for any eventuality. It's
[48:20] interesting how he said that. Um it's
[48:23] interesting how they want to reference
[48:24] last season as a template for this
[48:28] season. Uh and we've got an update
[48:30] coming in. Uh Beth just sent it me
[48:32] through actually about um uh Matas
[48:36] Fernandez. PSG Ben Jacobs literally just
[48:39] posted this. PSG are among the clubs
[48:42] pursuing Matas Fernandez.
[48:46] It worries me. I'll come back to that
[48:47] Bara thing in a minute because I just
[48:49] want to react to that. It worries me.
[48:51] That does um I don't know what your
[48:53] thoughts are everybody, but that worries
[48:55] me because realistically
[48:58] um
[49:02] you can lose out a lot of people saying
[49:05] Ben Jacobs update. So Ben Jacobs update
[49:07] is that PSG are in for Fernandez. What
[49:09] worries me about this is, and Keel
[49:12] Robinson would say all roads lead to
[49:14] belabor, but what that means to me is
[49:18] plan F,
[49:20] plan fail. Um, plan to fail and you will
[49:24] because the reality is
[49:27] Anderson plan A, Tali, plan B, Chuini
[49:33] plan C, Fernandez, plan B. You know,
[49:38] we're moving down the list here. This is
[49:41] not the way to win a title. This is not
[49:44] the way to support a manager. You can't
[49:47] move down the list. You can't move down
[49:49] the list. And
[49:54] if Fernandez goes to PSG, fine. There's
[49:56] nothing we can do about it. And if
[49:58] Anderson goes to Man City, we can't do
[50:00] anything about it. But we knew a year
[50:04] ago we needed a midfielder and we didn't
[50:06] get one. We knew a year ago that
[50:08] Casemiro was out of contract this
[50:10] summer. We've had 12 months minimum to
[50:13] prepare for this summer and that and the
[50:16] fruits of our labor is Edison from
[50:19] Atlanta at the moment. Like there are so
[50:22] many good midfielders available.
[50:24] I'm a little bit confused
[50:27] by what the plan is
[50:30] because it feels to me like we're
[50:32] talking to Fernandez but now PSG are
[50:34] interested. It feels to me like
[50:37] Anderson's our priority for nine months
[50:39] but Man City want him. It feels to me
[50:42] like Tanali is a player of interest but
[50:44] he's too expensive. It feels to me like
[50:46] Chuini is a dream signing but Real
[50:48] Madrid might not sell him. So look,
[50:52] if Kazmiro breaks his leg and you
[50:55] suddenly need to buy a midfielder, fine.
[50:58] It gets a bit chaotic. But for 12
[51:00] months, we've known about this. Like we
[51:03] cannot we cannot have a scenario where
[51:06] it's not Anderson, it's not Chermini,
[51:08] it's not Tali, it's not Fernandez.
[51:12] We can't we can't move down that list.
[51:15] We can't we can't move down that list.
[51:17] And it contradicts what um Bararda says
[51:20] because Bararda actually says um we've
[51:23] got to use the template of last summer.
[51:26] You know, we've got to be prepared.
[51:28] We've got to have a clear plan. We've
[51:30] got to be prepared, right? But I look at
[51:33] last summer,
[51:34] Cesco wasn't plan A, it was plan D.
[51:39] We only bought four players last year.
[51:41] Ka, fair play. Well done. Emma, well
[51:44] done. Cesco was plan D. Lament happened
[51:48] on the last day of the transfer window
[51:51] and that was only because Anana and
[51:53] Biinda did [ __ ] I don't think we were
[51:55] going to buy a goalkeeper. So we're
[51:58] claiming it was a good summer transfer
[51:59] window last year and it was but was it
[52:02] by design or was it by accident?
[52:05] Certainly Kuna and Murmo I would say was
[52:07] by design. Cesco was plan E and Lemons
[52:10] happened on the last day because Anana
[52:11] and Bund had started the season [ __ ] So
[52:14] you know if Anana had started the season
[52:16] okay
[52:18] we might not have even bought lemons. So
[52:21] there was a bit of chaos last season in
[52:24] the window. We cannot repeat that
[52:27] because we won't get away with it again.
[52:29] We did really well to get Cesco and
[52:31] Lemons but there was an element of chaos
[52:33] and look to it in the end.
[52:36] I'm a little bit worried about where we
[52:38] might end up in the midfield. It's early
[52:40] days. I still think Chamin is possible.
[52:42] But look, we can rescue this situation.
[52:45] If Fernandez goes to
[52:48] PSG, then we need to get Scott and then
[52:51] we need to get Chermini.
[52:54] But we can't end up with we can't end up
[52:56] we just can't end up with Ble because no
[52:58] one else wants him. We can't we can't do
[53:00] that. Um Ultimate Dishwasher says, "If
[53:03] United failed to achieve the targets for
[53:04] next season, can the board please own up
[53:06] and take the blame? Carrick will be the
[53:08] face of the problem, which isn't fair if
[53:09] he can't get these players like Cameron.
[53:11] Well, look,
[53:13] I I'll stick up for Carrick on that. I
[53:15] think any any talk about winning the
[53:16] league in the next two years is
[53:18] completely and utter nonsense and it
[53:19] needs to be buried like buried like a
[53:21] cat buries a [ __ ] It's not fair on
[53:23] Carrick. There should be no You know
[53:25] what?
[53:26] If we did win the league next year,
[53:30] Michael Carrick deserves a statue
[53:33] and yet Bararda could sit there and say,
[53:35] "Well, I did say it." I mean I I just
[53:36] think it's the chances of us winning the
[53:39] league in the next two year on two years
[53:41] are minuscule. So if we do win it, it
[53:44] will be on the manager. I don't think we
[53:47] can predict it. The fact that Carrick is
[53:49] being called the head coach and
[53:50] introduced as it instead of the manager
[53:52] is annoying. I think it's proof he has
[53:53] no control, says Maz Raboi. Uh barking
[53:56] for months. Anderson is the priority.
[53:58] They won't sign him. Barada and co are
[54:00] liars. Everything they say is [ __ ]
[54:01] says Desiree. Um, and Rossy says, "Who
[54:05] did the interview? Were the hard
[54:06] questions asked?" Um, it was Andy
[54:08] Mitten, to be fair,
[54:11] I thought the questions were good. Um,
[54:16] I'd have followed up on them, but I know
[54:18] how it works, and I don't think Andy
[54:21] Mitten would have been able to follow up
[54:22] on them. I mean, the one that I would
[54:24] have followed up on would have been the
[54:26] league one, but I don't think you can.
[54:28] These are pre-recorded. Um, I think some
[54:32] of the questions were good in the sense
[54:33] that they were answered. Um, but um,
[54:40] yeah, I thought it I thought it was
[54:42] good. Uh, Robert McCormack says, "I'm
[54:44] optimistic they um
[54:48] I'm optimistic they get it right by
[54:50] 2028," says Robert McCormack.
[54:53] Mate, fine. Fine.
[54:57] You were optimistic about Inos though,
[54:59] weren't you? So, still waiting for that.
[55:01] But no, I'm not going to dig it out.
[55:03] It's fine. I I can't see it. I hope
[55:05] you're right. 2028 is two years. So, in
[55:09] So, in 24 months, Carrick will still be
[55:12] in post and we'll be winning the league.
[55:15] Goes in the face of everything that's
[55:16] been going on in the last two uh
[55:18] questions. Uh 2:50 p.m. in Alabama.
[55:21] Loving the show. What would it What
[55:23] would I do without this community? This
[55:24] is MU. It's It's an amazing community.
[55:26] Make sure you're getting involved. Other
[55:28] than Arsenal/ City, most fans hate their
[55:30] owners, says Rory.
[55:32] Um, and EOG says, "It makes me laugh.
[55:35] Bararda didn't even know Carrick before
[55:36] he came manager. Goes to show they have
[55:38] zero clue about our history. Keep up the
[55:40] work." And Brian says, "My granddad died
[55:43] earlier this year and we are United fans
[55:44] for years. He loved your channel. It's
[55:46] six months since he passed today." Thank
[55:47] you, Mark. Well, love to you, Brian.
[55:50] And, uh, rest in peace your granddad.
[55:52] Um, you know, I've said this before,
[55:54] this community is so incredible, and
[55:56] obviously we haven't done any live shows
[55:58] this year, but I enjoy doing them when
[55:59] we do, but it's been going so long now.
[56:02] You get marriages, you get births, and
[56:04] sadly, we get people who watch the
[56:07] channel who are no longer with us. Um,
[56:09] and I suppose that that's what a
[56:11] community, isn't it? The reality is that
[56:14] um, we go we go through everything
[56:15] together. Um, but thank you for your
[56:18] lovely message, Brian. I don't want to
[56:19] be that guy, but why would we feel
[56:21] confident in this transfer window? Says
[56:23] Simon. We've proven in the past that
[56:24] we're not good in the window. Plenty of
[56:27] time though. Um, and Nick says, "In
[56:30] regards to Bruno playing deeper, what
[56:31] did position charts look like when him
[56:33] and Mount played together? Maybe Rogers
[56:35] is a midfielder," says Nick. Well, it's
[56:37] interesting. I've just been sent this
[56:38] message here that um um
[56:43] um
[56:48] Morgan Rogers, according to Ben Jacobs,
[56:50] has got um a buyback clause. That can't
[56:53] be correct.
[56:56] Who would have a buyback clause for him?
[56:57] I I can't say that. Uh what they don't
[57:00] get, says Mike, is that trust is earned,
[57:02] not bestowed. They need to earn the
[57:04] trust. Their trust can be earned by
[57:05] delivering. think they delivered a cheap
[57:07] coach. Time to deliver players for him.
[57:09] Anything else is [ __ ] Um, and runner
[57:11] bean says, "This board couldn't run a
[57:13] bath, let alone a football club." Um,
[57:16] uh, thank you very much for that. And do
[57:18] you remember when Amram used Martinez as
[57:20] a DM? Would you still experiment with
[57:22] that? I do remember official. It was the
[57:24] Aston Villa game just before Christmas.
[57:30] He played really well and we never did
[57:31] it again. Nobody's ever done it again.
[57:35] Patrick says, "I'm worried we get Edison
[57:37] Fernandez and Bleaba and our marquee
[57:40] signing ends up being Rogers," says
[57:42] Patrick Chu. I I said it to you. I said
[57:46] it to you a few weeks ago, didn't I? And
[57:47] it was nothing to do with any Man United
[57:49] source or anything like that. I mean, I
[57:51] I live in the Midlands, which is where
[57:54] Villa play, and I know a few people
[57:55] quite close to Villa, and um I know what
[57:59] happened with Emory and Man United. Uh
[58:01] and we weren't the only club that was
[58:03] interested in Emory, but nobody went
[58:05] anywhere near Emory because he has a
[58:07] release clause of about 20 million quid
[58:09] and he has a lot of freedom at Villa.
[58:11] So, it was never, you know, Man United
[58:13] didn't snub Emory. It was just, it was
[58:15] never going to happen. Um, with Morgan
[58:18] Rogers, we are really interested.
[58:21] Um, it could happen. We are really
[58:24] interested. Michael Carrick had him at
[58:26] Middlesborough. Um, I think Will Cox had
[58:29] him at Man City. Um, so they really
[58:32] they're they're both in agreement. They
[58:34] really like Rogers. I I like the player.
[58:36] I think he's a really really exciting
[58:38] player. Um, I remember on the podcast
[58:41] Goldbridge saves football. Who remembers
[58:42] that? The Goldbridge arms. Um, I need to
[58:45] reopen that actually. Um, Morgan Rogers
[58:48] was a player that runs at people in a
[58:50] game of football that people don't run
[58:51] at people anymore. So, I do really like
[58:53] him, but uh, I don't um
[58:58] I don't think it's the right way to
[59:00] spend money this summer. I don't think
[59:02] Morgan Rogers helped us win the league.
[59:05] I think that money needs to be spent on
[59:07] fullbacks and midfielders. Um, when do
[59:11] the matches for this season get
[59:12] announced for the Premier League?
[59:15] I would say
[59:19] a week on Tuesday. I would
[59:21] say a week on Tuesday. I would
[59:22] say a week on Tuesday. I would say the 16th.
[59:24] Um,
[59:27] Luke says Anderson, thanks for your
[59:29] generous super chat, Luke. He says,
[59:31] "Anderson choosing City over United
[59:33] wages may be part part, but at 23 in 10
[59:36] to 15 years, he'll be following
[59:38] football. Chelsea City are the ones
[59:40] winning everything, not United.
[59:41] Difficult to accept, but but true. And
[59:44] it's down to the owners. Luke, you you
[59:46] know what? I just I said this I've said
[59:49] this I said this about two years ago.
[59:52] I believe the Glazers
[59:55] are going to make some of our fans
[59:57] actually believe we shouldn't pay high
[01:00:00] wages and high transfer fees. I remember
[01:00:02] I remember the video. I remember it
[01:00:04] vividly and it wasn't in this setup so
[01:00:07] it must have been the old house and I
[01:00:08] said I genuinely think it's like it's
[01:00:11] like water torture drip drip drip they
[01:00:15] constantly talk about value in the
[01:00:17] market not overpaying not paying silly
[01:00:20] wages that I actually think a proportion
[01:00:23] of our fan base will start to believe it
[01:00:27] but the top clubs Real Madrid fans don't
[01:00:30] talk about wages and transfer fees
[01:00:32] Arsenal fans fans don't talk about wages
[01:00:34] and transfer fees. Man City fans don't
[01:00:36] talk about wages and transfer fees. We
[01:00:39] talk about it because we've got owners
[01:00:41] that needs us to talk about it because
[01:00:42] they're in debt and they need to make
[01:00:44] money.
[01:00:47] There there's no correlation between
[01:00:49] having a wage limit and a transfer fee
[01:00:53] limit and winning the league. There
[01:00:55] isn't. There's there's no correlation.
[01:00:58] You don't win the league by we won't buy
[01:01:00] players over 80 million pounds and we
[01:01:02] won't pay over 200 grand a week. That's
[01:01:03] that's that no one's going to write a
[01:01:06] book about that. That that's not how you
[01:01:08] win the league. If a player is worth100
[01:01:11] million pounds and they're worth 300
[01:01:14] grand a week and they're going to help
[01:01:15] you win the league, you pay it.
[01:01:18] Simple as that.
[01:01:21] If Erling Harland was at, I don't know,
[01:01:24] Dortmund again now and his agent rings
[01:01:26] up and he says he wants to come and play
[01:01:28] for Man United and you, you know,
[01:01:30] Michael Sansone or whatever his name is,
[01:01:32] runs the stats and says, "This guy will
[01:01:35] score 20 to 30 Premier League goals
[01:01:38] every year for the next five years,
[01:01:40] which will put us right up the league.
[01:01:43] We should definitely do this deal. He's
[01:01:44] one of the best strikers in the world."
[01:01:46] And United go, "Okay." and then Dortmund
[01:01:48] say it's £100 million and then his agent
[01:01:50] says it's 300 grand a week, we'd walk
[01:01:52] away. We'd walk away from that. Under
[01:01:56] the current climate, we would walk away
[01:01:57] from a100 million pound player and 300
[01:01:59] grand a week. And yet it could be Erling
[01:02:02] Harland.
[01:02:03] It could be Bruno Fernandez. It could be
[01:02:06] Rodri.
[01:02:08] We can't be successful with a wage
[01:02:11] budget and a transfer budget. We can't.
[01:02:15] And yet we're running it. And some of
[01:02:16] our fans think it's a good idea. We
[01:02:18] can't we, you know, and effectively
[01:02:20] that's what Bararda was saying. You
[01:02:22] know, we've got to we've got to have
[01:02:23] we've got I just I don't know. I don't
[01:02:25] know how it's happened. I don't know why
[01:02:27] it's happened and I don't know why
[01:02:29] people agree with it. I'll absolutely
[01:02:31] say we shouldn't have paid that much for
[01:02:34] that player because they're not worth
[01:02:35] it. If you pay a hundred million pounds
[01:02:36] for Fernandez and give him 300 grand a
[01:02:38] week, I will be there going what the
[01:02:40] [ __ ] That's something different. That's
[01:02:43] that that literally is overpaying.
[01:02:46] But paying for what people are worth, we
[01:02:49] don't want to do that either. That's
[01:02:50] what we we class it as overpaying if
[01:02:53] it's over 80 million. We class it as
[01:02:56] overpaying if it's over 200 grand a
[01:02:58] week. But some people are worth more
[01:03:00] than 80 million and some people are
[01:03:01] worth more than 200 grand a week and
[01:03:03] it's those players that we should be
[01:03:04] looking to bring in. Um Cesco isn't good
[01:03:07] enough. We won't win the Premier League
[01:03:08] with him since Fraser. I think that's a
[01:03:09] more longer term comment. We'll have to
[01:03:11] wait and see on that one. Um, great show
[01:03:13] tonight. I've really enjoyed it. Uh, I
[01:03:15] know Thursday night is a night that
[01:03:17] people are normally out and stuff, but
[01:03:18] uh, a steady 10,000 watching. I am back
[01:03:21] with you on the 10:00 show tomorrow. Uh,
[01:03:24] and I'm on the 2 o'clock show with you
[01:03:25] tomorrow as well. Um, so tune in for
[01:03:28] that. Um, have a great evening, whatever
[01:03:30] you're doing. I think I'm going to watch
[01:03:32] Clarkson's Farm. Uh, I love that show.
[01:03:34] Um, I tell you what, that Hawkston, oh,
[01:03:37] my local pub's got it on tap on draft.
[01:03:40] You know, you can actually whack it into
[01:03:42] Google where they have it on draft. What
[01:03:44] a pint. It's absolutely lovely. Uh,
[01:03:47] anyway, on that on that little aftershow
[01:03:49] comment, I will be off. Um, great show
[01:03:52] tonight. Thank you everyone who's
[01:03:54] getting involved. Uh, always good debate
[01:03:56] and as I said to Rory, I haven't got a
[01:03:58] problem with you. You know, I haven't
[01:03:59] got a problem with Bararda. If you if
[01:04:01] you want to believe and be positive
[01:04:03] about it, absolutely fine. I I think
[01:04:05] trust is earned and I just don't trust
[01:04:08] them. So, let's hope that they're right.
[01:04:10] Let's hope they are. Uh, take care
[01:04:12] everyone. Stay safe. I'll speak to you
[01:04:14] all in a bit.