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The Barbour County Commission meeting on May 15, 2026, began with an executive session. Key discussions included the approval of two Memorandums of Understanding with the state emergency management division for stream gauges and state radio system connectivity. The commission also addressed the repair of the Barbour County sign on Route 57 and heard updates on grant applications, AED delivery, and the expansion of the EWP tabletop program to other coal industry sites. A significant portion of the meeting focused on the proposed fee structure for EMS services at paid events and the financial sustainability of the ambulance service.

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[00:00] I think we've worked out all of our technical difficulties here this morning.
[00:07] Um we will start with the pledge and just fair warning uh we're going to go immediately into executive session um at the request of the prosecutor.
[00:19] So, it to say standing and sitting and standing back up after the pledge if you'd like to step out.
[00:29] Um, and uh after the pledge, I'll need a motion to enter executive session.
[00:34] But just in an effort to try to save a little bit on your knees if we'll start with the pledge.
[00:42] I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
[00:58] I'll make a motion we enter executive
[01:00] I'll make a motion we enter executive session.
[01:01] Second.
[01:02] Second.
[01:04] We have a motion and a second to enter executive session.
[01:06] All those in favor signify by saying I.
[01:09] Motion passes 30.
[01:13] Be an hour. Come on, man.
[26:43] All right.
[26:56] Right.
[26:59] So, I had two um memorandums of understanding with the state emergency management division.
[27:04] One was for the stream gauges that we talked about some time ago to purchase to add to Junior.
[27:12] Uh the other one was for connectivity state radio system.
[27:14] So I just need those.
[27:16] It's just basically that we'll play nice together and there's nothing wild.
[27:24] Anybody have any questions from what was presented in our packet regarding those twous?
[27:33] I do not.
[27:35] I don't neither.
[27:37] That said, I'll make a motion to adopt theus as presented by Dylan Harper 911 direct second.
[27:44] Harper 911 direct second.
[27:44] We have a motion and a second.
[27:47] All those in favor signify by saying I.
[27:49] I.
[27:50] I.
[27:50] Motion passes.
[27:50] 30.
[27:55] Dylan, while you're here, I have a question for you.
[27:57] I understand that you're in charge of the sign out on 57 for about two years that it's been down.
[28:05] Which sign?
[28:05] the county sign.
[28:07] Barber County sign.
[28:08] I have not.
[28:08] That's Burl.
[28:11] That'd be Burl.
[28:11] No, no, I just talked to Burl and Burl said you took the project on two years ago to have that sign.
[28:16] I just talked to him downstairs when
[28:19] So that's a sign that was hit in a car accident, wiped it out,
[28:23] cuz I asked for said Dylan took that upon himself two years ago to do that and that's what he's done.
[28:29] So I
[28:29] I can take care of it.
[28:31] I'll call you get a price for it today.
[28:32] Well, no.
[28:32] Get to get a referral on it.
[28:34] I just asked him before the meeting.
[28:36] Which sign?
[28:37] The Barber County sign.
[28:39] Not the green sign.
[28:39] Criminal sign.
[28:41] Was it green?
[28:42] It would welcome Barber County.
[28:45] It would welcome Barber County.
[28:45] Which of the guy?
[28:47] Which of the guy?
[28:48] 57.
[28:50] By the church there.
[28:50] No.
[28:50] Car hit.
[28:50] I guess it must have smashed the sign up.
[28:51] I guess it must have smashed the sign up.
[28:52] I guess the guy fell asleep and shot down there.
[28:57] Yeah.
[28:57] Yeah.
[28:58] Or all that.
[29:01] I don't think I I'll figure it out.
[29:01] I'll take care of it.
[29:03] I don't know who makes the signs, but.
[29:05] Bigfoot Designs Dustin Cure made it.
[29:07] So yeah, he so.
[29:09] When he come back with a price.
[29:10] Prior to the accident was vandalized.
[29:13] And had spray paint all over it.
[29:14] Yeah, took care of that then too.
[29:16] Yeah, he was able to um do a rendition of that design and we replaced that.
[29:20] He put some epoxy like a clear epoxy cover so that just that one.
[29:26] Yeah, I think that made it look bad.
[29:29] I think I talked last time to not put that back on because it was really hard to see.
[29:32] Um, and then short a short time after that, the accident happened and.
[29:34] Cuz I remember we talked about claiming on the insurance cuz I got a price for it.
[29:36] We talked about claiming on that guy's insurance for the.
[29:46] guy's insurance for the the crash.
[29:50] So, I don't give a give a I'll send you the price and we'll figure it out.
[29:55] I'll send you the price and we'll figure it out.
[29:57] Thank you. Anything else?
[29:58] Thanks, D.
[30:04] All right, Corey.
[30:06] Uh, so right now, uh, with grant cycles being back open, we're just chomping at the bit to start submitting those.
[30:10] Um, and hopefully hearing back on some that we submitted feels like two years ago.
[30:17] Um,
[30:18] yeah.
[30:20] So, we've got to revisit everything that we've we previously submitted.
[30:23] Um, get those uh updated so if they don't go through from the last cycle, we can resubmit them.
[30:28] and then any other projects.
[30:30] I know we're working with the clerk's office on some of the things that they may need uh coming down the line.
[30:36] Um anything that EMS needs, you know, some new things that have come up, we're going to try to to go about it.
[30:41] The AEDs were delivered uh a couple days
[30:47] The AEDs were delivered uh a couple days ago.
[30:49] They're sitting in our conference room.
[30:52] Uh the cabinets and AEDs, so they're ready to rock as soon as we start planning out like where they need to go.
[30:56] Um, we'll start opening up the cabinets and getting the codes and everything situated so they work for us and get them in the CAD.
[31:05] Um, other than that, we're just uh preparing for all events coming up.
[31:08] I was uh invited to help uh Craft and Mine yesterday with their EWP tabletop.
[31:17] Since we kind of championed it here, started here, it's started to roll over into other uh coal industry sites.
[31:25] So, it's good to see others kind of picking up where we kind of started in Warper County and um they're actually talking about doing that in the the mines in Pennsylvania, too.
[31:38] So, um so it's good that it caught the way it did and hopefully we can keep that momentum going here and it keeps going throughout the industry.
[31:44] Good.
[31:44] I had a call um from someone that was in attendance yesterday and um they were
[31:49] attendance yesterday and um they were impressed.
[31:53] sitting at my table.
[31:54] sitting at my table.
[31:57] I don't know.
[31:57] Uh that I I just took their thank you and said I'd pass it along.
[32:04] and said I'd pass it along.
[32:04] Got a little bit more hurdles than we do with our site.
[32:07] I mean, we're fortunate that ours is pretty straightforward and never thought I'd have to worry about a rail site that has six rails on it being affected and have to add that to the mix.
[32:10] that ours is pretty straightforward and never thought I'd have to worry about a rail site that has six rails on it being affected and have to add that to the mix.
[32:12] never thought I'd have to worry about a rail site that has six rails on it being affected and have to add that to the mix.
[32:14] rail site that has six rails on it being affected and have to add that to the mix.
[32:16] affected and have to add that to the mix.
[32:16] So, they've got a little bit more of an uphill battle than we've had.
[32:18] mix. So, they've got a little bit more of an uphill battle than we've had.
[32:20] of an uphill battle than we've had.
[32:20] So, uh, but it's good they identified stuff like that.
[32:22] uh, but it's good they identified stuff like that.
[32:27] Um, speaking of grants for both of you, actually, the West Virginia First Foundation has a grant.
[32:31] Um, speaking of grants for both of you, actually, the West Virginia First Foundation has a grant.
[32:33] actually, the West Virginia First Foundation has a grant.
[32:33] Their grants are open right now and they have three different levels of grants that they're looking at or three um focus areas.
[32:36] Foundation has a grant. Their grants are open right now and they have three different levels of grants that they're looking at or three um focus areas.
[32:38] open right now and they have three different levels of grants that they're looking at or three um focus areas.
[32:40] different levels of grants that they're looking at or three um focus areas.
[32:44] looking at or three um focus areas. I talked to Wendy Madden about the potential for the health department
[32:48] talked to Wendy Madden about the potential for the health department
[32:51] the potential for the health department to get in on some of that and uh for growth there as well.
[32:59] And she said that she may look at a collaborative effort kind of grant with everybody.
[33:06] Um so expect that.
[33:09] But look those over and see if there's some room in your organization, either one of you, that can utilize some of that money.
[33:16] And I think it's open till June 1st, so it's the windows pretty tight.
[33:20] >> Okay. Um, just >> and if you want to if you want to if you see an opportunity there, you might want to call Wendy cuz she used to do that for a living.
[33:30] >> Yeah. >> And then one more thing, I just want to give a kudos to all the first responders that helped with prom.
[33:36] I think it was a great success.
[33:38] Uh I think we were able to create a very safe environment without seeming too impeding on the event itself.
[33:45] Uh we tried to space everybody out as as well as we could so the kids didn't feel like we were there.
[33:49] Um but we didn't have any issues.
[33:54] Um but we didn't have any issues.
[33:56] Uh and you know thanks to EMS for having a crew there just in case something happened.
[33:59] In the sheriff's department, uh, Philip BPD task force, um, you know, myself and Dylan were there and we just had a lot of eyes on, you know, the situation just in case anybody tried to do anything stupid.
[34:13] So, it was a it was a great time.
[34:14] Well, a lot of hard work by a lot of we people turned into a beautiful event.
[34:19] So, kudos to everyone.
[34:22] Penn State Police were there actually.
[34:28] All right, you got everything.
[34:30] Today is our oney year anniversary.
[34:32] It is.
[34:34] That's awesome. Uh very excited. Uh happy to share that we are up to 43 employees.
[34:39] Uh we are fully staffed with full-timers.
[34:42] Uh we have been able to provide two 24-hour ambulances uh non-stop without interruption for quite some time, including a third 12-hour shift uh that functions six days a week.
[34:52] uh we have increased our community
[34:54] uh we have increased our community events significantly.
[34:58] Um and yeah, we're events significantly.
[35:00] Um and yeah, we're just uh we're concentrated on growth and moving forward now.
[35:02] So, uh very exciting.
[35:06] I think uh our billing lows uh we probably handled 90% of those and things are looking pretty good.
[35:11] It's been kind of nice to have a little breathing room.
[35:13] Yeah. I could I tell you, your smile is real this morning.
[35:16] It really is.
[35:19] It's good to see.
[35:19] Feels good.
[35:20] Yeah.
[35:24] Well, it is good and you have made amazing strides for one year and uh it's it's just incredible what you've done and I had no doubt the day we shook hands that that we would be here one day and I didn't expect it to be this day this quick.
[35:41] But thank you so much for your hard work.
[35:43] Thank you.
[35:46] You you've moved Barber County a lot.
[35:48] Thank you. We'll keep doing it.
[35:50] Well, good. That sounds like a plan.
[35:53] Let's keep doing it for years to come.
[35:57] You know, Aaron, I agree with Dave on.
[35:58] You've done unbelievable job.
[36:00] I know nothing about your line of work, but I know where it was before you came on board.
[36:06] Wasn't very good shape at all.
[36:07] I mean, I heard from the public call.
[36:09] We don't get an ambulance.
[36:11] They come from here.
[36:13] They come from Hunter.
[36:16] I mean, it come from all different counties for Barber County.
[36:19] Uh, it was a mess to say the least.
[36:21] And there's still going to be some issues, but you've done an unbelievable job.
[36:22] You you really I want to pat you on the back for that.
[36:25] I wouldn't have wanted to jump into that blast furnace that you did, but you did.
[36:28] And starting to see things come out the other end.
[36:31] But I do have a question.
[36:33] The other night at the Fourth of July meeting that you happen to be there, I know it's talk about charging fees for certain events.
[36:35] Uh most of them seem to be at the fairgrounds.
[36:36] Okay.
[36:38] When someone's charging for an event out there to get into an event, for example, a rodeo or whatever, car races or four-wheel drive race, four-wheel races, whatever, that you folks are looking to
[36:59] whatever, that you folks are looking to charge a fee for that coverage.
[37:02] Uh, it only makes sense.
[37:05] You guys can't do it for free.
[37:10] Okay. Um, where where's things stand on that?
[37:11] Where is there any talk in your board meetings or what's going on with that?
[37:16] Y that's a fair question.
[37:18] So yes, um one of the things we identified as as we go through and look at budget is that uh we're doing a lot of events, right?
[37:25] And like we'll talk about prom.
[37:27] So prom's a community event, right?
[37:27] We're not charging people to get tickets to come do this thing.
[37:31] Like this was something for the school system.
[37:33] Makes sense.
[37:35] And so when we go do stuff like that there there's no plan to charge for events like that, right?
[37:40] um the 4th of July, we talk about how well we're doing fireworks and we're not charging people.
[37:44] And so like when we look at that, like that's a community event,
[37:49] but when we do things where we're charging people to come in and do these things, um that's a little different.
[37:54] And a lot of times they have a uh a contract themselves, those entities that come in, and one of the things they are
[38:01] come in, and one of the things they are required to do is provide ambulance
[38:02] required to do is provide ambulance coverage for those events.
[38:03] coverage for those events.
[38:06] Correct. And so, uh, I propose to the board, my board, the ambulance board, that we should consider a fee.
[38:11] And when we look at how we come up with that fee, we look at, well, what is the hourly cost for employees?
[38:19] Um, more often than not, it's at least time and a half, especially if the event happens later in the week.
[38:25] Um, and just for, you know, full disclosure, a full-time EMS worker does 48 hours a week.
[38:31] So, they have two 24-hour shifts.
[38:33] So if they pick up an extra event, they're already in overtime.
[38:37] So you have to plan that, right?
[38:38] And then if you look at an event, again, if we look at a holiday, and more specifically a holiday that happens later in the week, uh we our employee handbook adopted a lot of the rules that the county has.
[38:51] And so on a holiday, if they're already in overtime, that's double time, right?
[38:56] And so, you know, we have to take that into account.
[39:00] And so I actually brought this up at our last
[39:01] actually brought this up at our last board meeting, which was last Friday.
[39:03] and uh I proposed that we have a fee of $100 an hour.
[39:07] Um so the board asked that I draft that and uh we'll have further discussion at next month's board meeting.
[39:09] Okay.
[39:12] But but that's where that sits.
[39:14] So I presented it.
[39:15] I feel it's something we need to look at.
[39:17] Um >> and yeah, I to me it makes sense.
[39:20] So if if you're at we use the fairgrounds that's where the events many of them have happened but if you have a crew at the fairgrounds for an event rodeo people pay to get in and see that rodeo and they're there if they get another call within the county can they just take take off >>
[39:24] no so that is part of event staffing right and so and I'll use problem again as my example here so um you know I brought extra staff in they bring ambulance down here and uh one of that, you know, one of our our briefing points that we had is even if the county's blowing up, we're committed to this event.
[39:27] You can't leave.
[40:01] event. You can't leave, right?
[40:01] You're not leaving.
[40:04] Now, the right? You're not leaving.
[40:04] Now, the county did blow up.
[40:07] And so sometimes we county did blow up.
[40:07] And so sometimes we have to mutual aid when we have multiple calls at one time, and that's part of rural living.
[40:11] And we did that because we knew there's such a concentration and there's such an increased chance of something happening that that crew needs to stay here.
[40:22] Well, when you go to an event like a rodeo, drag races, things of that nature, uh where the event sponsor has to provide for ambulance coverage, then yeah, if we're charging, that ambulance stays there.
[40:35] Okay?
[40:35] And so, like I will use the rodeo this weekend as an example.
[40:41] Okay?
[40:41] So, if somebody gets injured during the rodeo, that crew will initialize care and they're going to start it.
[40:47] They're going to start doing their thing.
[40:48] They're going to call for another ambulance to respond and one of two things will happen.
[40:54] Either the responding ambulance will take their place and remain at the event and that crew will transport or that patient will be handed off to that other other ambulance and be
[41:01] other other ambulance and be transported.
[41:03] But either way, an ambulance stays at that event.
[41:06] ambulance stays at that event.
[41:08] So, so it continues.
[41:09] Yes. So, that that ambulance at that event would really be generating zero retina.
[41:14] Correct. And and the way ambulance billing works is you have to transport a patient in order to build that patient,
[41:20] right?
[41:25] So if we sit there and we don't do anything but hand out band-aids and and things of that nature, which we do a lot of.
[41:30] Sure.
[41:30] Um you don't recoup any of that, right?
[41:34] You're just there.
[41:34] Okay.
[41:36] Um but again, the big thing is like in even like this rodeo when we figured out the cost for the rodeo, it's what would it cost to pay the people?
[41:43] And then also when it's 80 degrees outside, the ambulance has medication in it.
[41:47] It has to stay running.
[41:48] You have to keep those medications temperature controlled.
[41:50] And so, well, what we what we burn through in fuel to sit there for 14 hours.
[41:57] Uh, and so those are things that we take into account.
[41:58] And that's kind of how that's how I came up with that number.
[42:01] Okay.
[42:03] Okay.
[42:04] I would say that's something you want to try to get put together.
[42:08] Oh, we're we're working on it.
[42:09] Yeah. No, no, I understand. I'm not demanding you, but I'm I think it's important to that put together, you know, for the public or where whoever's having the events.
[42:16] Sure.
[42:18] You know, I mean, that's part of their cost to run that event.
[42:23] Okay. Thanks. Thanks.
[42:27] Thank you.
[42:27] I think going to be a fine line though as to what's considered a community event or what's considered something like you guys are talking about.
[42:44] Um what about Lurch Fest?
[42:47] I mean obviously we we have a crew down here.
[42:52] Well, we charge the city of Philadelphia for that.
[42:56] Are they making money off of that?
[43:00] They So, yeah.
[43:01] Do they have city?
[43:02] The city does, right?
[43:02] Do they have a requirement to
[43:03] Right? Do they have a requirement to have an annual there or is that something they're just asking us for community involvement?
[43:08] They always do. I mean, there's always.
[43:10] I don't think there's a requirement, right?
[43:11] So, if like, and I know we had crews there last year, we even took care of some patients there last year, right?
[43:16] Um, but if those crews got overwhelmed and had to respond to calls, does that event stop because we leave?
[43:23] Right.
[43:24] I don't think so.
[43:24] Um, it's just like this rodeo this weekend, uh, the duty crews asked if they could go also be present for the rodeo.
[43:32] Yeah, that's fine. I think it's great to be out in the public and be seen, but they're still responding from calls.
[43:35] Uh, I'd say the fair was the same way last year, right?
[43:39] We operated our entire organization out of the fairgrounds, but we didn't charge for everybody to be there.
[43:45] We just had them there because there's a concentration of people.
[43:48] And so it's not like I'm saying, well, there's three ambulances there. It's $300 an hour.
[43:52] Um, so yeah, I I mean, I think that's a good question.
[43:56] And I think that it's not totally black and white and that's part of the discussion we had as a board is,
[44:05] of the discussion we had as a board is, you know, there's probably going to be things where we can't charge.
[44:08] there might be things where we have to charge.
[44:10] Um, and really that's what it comes down to is if we can't pay our people to staff that ambulance, what's your option?
[44:19] I don't have a good answer for that at all.
[44:26] So I would say for now as a board um the discussions are leaning towards if this is a a charged chargeable event where people have to pay to get in and the event coordinator, the contract says that they have to have uh EMS services at the event, then it gets charged.
[44:49] >> right?
[44:51] Um, but you know, community- based events where there isn't no one's making money off of it per se.
[45:00] I mean, vendors will of course, but um if it's if it's not a for-profit
[45:05] >> um if it's if it's not a for-profit event um for the event holder and it's
[45:09] event um for the event holder and it's not in the contract that they have to
[45:11] not in the contract that they have to have EMS services, then it won't be
[45:13] have EMS services, then it won't be charged and it'll be a service, but only
[45:15] charged and it'll be a service, but only as long as someone can be there,
[45:17] as long as someone can be there, >> right? And this was a big discussion at
[45:20] >> right? And this was a big discussion at the parks and recck meeting is like
[45:22] the parks and recck meeting is like we're not doing it to make money. We're
[45:24] we're not doing it to make money. We're doing it to be able to continue to
[45:25] doing it to be able to continue to provide coverage is really what it comes
[45:27] provide coverage is really what it comes down to.
[45:28] down to. >> And I'm not saying we should do
[45:30] >> And I'm not saying we should do everything for free. Don't please don't
[45:31] everything for free. Don't please don't get me wrong.
[45:34] get me wrong. >> I'm just saying we need to
[45:37] >> I'm just saying we need to really take a hard look at it as what
[45:39] really take a hard look at it as what we're going to charge. We don't want to
[45:42] we're going to charge. We don't want to deter,
[45:43] deter, >> right?
[45:44] >> right? >> Anybody from having an event, right?
[45:47] >> Anybody from having an event, right? >> That's why there's been a lot of
[45:48] >> That's why there's been a lot of discussion.
[45:49] discussion. >> Oh, yeah. And we had an excellent
[45:50] >> Oh, yeah. And we had an excellent discussion as a group at the parks and
[45:52] discussion as a group at the parks and recck meeting the other night about how
[45:53] recck meeting the other night about how we make the Fourth of July work, you
[45:56] we make the Fourth of July work, you know, because uh Dwayne's there and he's
[45:58] know, because uh Dwayne's there and he's like, well, we're just cancing races.
[45:59] like, well, we're just cancing races. And it's like, well, that's not what we
[46:00] And it's like, well, that's not what we want. Like, we're not trying to
[46:02] want. Like, we're not trying to negatively affect those events. We're
[46:05] negatively affect those events. We're just trying like not everybody that
[46:07] just trying like not everybody that works on the ambulance wants to spend
[46:09] works on the ambulance wants to spend the 4th of July sitting in an ambulance
[46:11] the 4th of July sitting in an ambulance when they could be with their families
[46:12] when they could be with their families doing something and that's what I'm
[46:14] doing something and that's what I'm asking them to do. And at some point we
[46:18] asking them to do. And at some point we have to pony up something. Um, and I
[46:20] have to pony up something. Um, and I specifically, like Bob had asked me to
[46:22] specifically, like Bob had asked me to put together numbers for the events that
[46:24] put together numbers for the events that we did last year at the fairgrounds and
[46:27] we did last year at the fairgrounds and we were sitting at about $5,600
[46:30] we were sitting at about $5,600 and we received a donation at the end of
[46:32] and we received a donation at the end of the year for,200.
[46:34] the year for,200. And so when I look at it as like we were
[46:36] And so when I look at it as like we were operating on loans that you gave us last
[46:38] operating on loans that you gave us last summer like that's how we were doing
[46:40] summer like that's how we were doing operations and ultimately we walked away
[46:43] operations and ultimately we walked away at the end of summer
[46:45] at the end of summer that much further in the hole because
[46:48] that much further in the hole because there was nothing there and we have to
[46:50] there was nothing there and we have to have something just to keep it going.
[46:53] have something just to keep it going. >> And I think that's kind of where this
[46:55] >> And I think that's kind of where this whole communication started at is we
[46:59] whole communication started at is we have to come up with something that
[47:00] have to come up with something that works. And yeah, we know it's going to
[47:02] works. And yeah, we know it's going to be different for every event and we just
[47:05] be different for every event and we just have to try and plan something to keep
[47:07] have to try and plan something to keep it sustainable.
[47:09] it sustainable. >> And honestly, right now, we're looking
[47:11] >> And honestly, right now, we're looking at where's the gray area in there for
[47:15] at where's the gray area in there for those type of events that you're talking
[47:17] those type of events that you're talking about cuz once you put something on
[47:19] about cuz once you put something on paper, it's hard to leave a gray area
[47:21] paper, it's hard to leave a gray area space in the paper. And uh that's going
[47:24] space in the paper. And uh that's going to be a
[47:26] to be a big part of the discussion with the
[47:28] big part of the discussion with the authority board moving forward
[47:31] authority board moving forward >> along with
[47:32] >> along with >> how does that who who who handles that
[47:34] >> how does that who who who handles that judgment call. Yeah.
[47:37] judgment call. Yeah. >> Along with the timeline of when it's
[47:38] >> Along with the timeline of when it's implemented if it is
[47:40] implemented if it is >> right
[47:42] >> right >> because it's not like something that we
[47:43] >> because it's not like something that we want to do.
[47:45] want to do. >> We decided today initiated it tomorrow
[47:47] >> We decided today initiated it tomorrow when we have things on the calendar.
[47:49] when we have things on the calendar. >> Certainly not. Yeah. Anything that's
[47:51] >> Certainly not. Yeah. Anything that's already planned. Yeah,
[47:52] already planned. Yeah, >> they they didn't build that in the
[47:54] >> they they didn't build that in the budget. So, Right. Yeah.
[47:58] budget. So, Right. Yeah. >> All right.
[48:00] >> All right. Uh, let's see where we at. Item number
[48:05] Uh, let's see where we at. Item number four. Oh,
[48:07] four. Oh, it um Shane brought to my attention that
[48:09] it um Shane brought to my attention that the sound went out um on the broadcast
[48:13] the sound went out um on the broadcast during the resolution.
[48:15] during the resolution. Uh, I'm not sure what you all were able
[48:18] Uh, I'm not sure what you all were able to hear, but the commission did adopt a
[48:21] to hear, but the commission did adopt a resolution
[48:23] resolution supporting the residents of the Kelly
[48:26] supporting the residents of the Kelly Road, Hunters Fork area in opposition to
[48:31] Road, Hunters Fork area in opposition to the Valley Link uh power transmission
[48:34] the Valley Link uh power transmission project. So, and it it does uh we are
[48:39] project. So, and it it does uh we are supporting their right as land owners to
[48:41] supporting their right as land owners to say we don't want it, but we're also um
[48:45] say we don't want it, but we're also um there was nothing in there that says we
[48:47] there was nothing in there that says we don't support those who may want the
[48:50] don't support those who may want the transmission line in their area. So, I'm
[48:54] transmission line in their area. So, I'm sure there will be more to come about
[48:56] sure there will be more to come about this Valley Link transmission project as
[48:59] this Valley Link transmission project as it uh
[49:01] it uh the project gets whittleled down and we
[49:03] the project gets whittleled down and we know more details.
[49:06] know more details. All right, item number four,
[49:08] All right, item number four, contribution requests.
[49:10] contribution requests. First off, we have the FBLA
[49:14] First off, we have the FBLA and uh they came to us at last meeting
[49:18] and uh they came to us at last meeting but hadn't presented a written funding
[49:22] but hadn't presented a written funding request and now they have
[49:31] and they will be going to
[49:34] and they will be going to nationals in
[49:37] nationals in Texas. I believe it is
[49:38] Texas. I believe it is >> San Antonio.
[49:39] >> San Antonio. >> San Antonio, Texas.
[49:41] >> San Antonio, Texas. >> So, this was last year's club one year
[49:43] >> So, this was last year's club one year before.
[49:48] >> Oh,
[49:50] >> Oh, double check, too.
[49:52] double check, too. >> Yeah. All right. So, the funding request
[49:56] >> Yeah. All right. So, the funding request is in the amount of $10,000 to help with
[50:01] is in the amount of $10,000 to help with um
[50:02] um transportation
[50:04] transportation and um registration of students
[50:10] and um registration of students at
[50:11] at nationals in San Antonio. And again,
[50:15] nationals in San Antonio. And again, I'll remind the commission that that
[50:17] I'll remind the commission that that would pretty well wipe out our
[50:21] would pretty well wipe out our ability, our contingency in the donation
[50:25] ability, our contingency in the donation funding
[50:27] funding bucket for the year.
[50:30] bucket for the year. Shannon, did we give $6,000 last year?
[50:33] Shannon, did we give $6,000 last year? >> Yes, it was $6,000 last year and 24 was
[50:36] >> Yes, it was $6,000 last year and 24 was 3,000.
[50:38] 3,000. I know some of the other events that
[50:40] I know some of the other events that like the music and stuff, you know, we
[50:43] like the music and stuff, you know, we actually cut back a little bit from what
[50:46] actually cut back a little bit from what they asked for and what we had given
[50:47] they asked for and what we had given them last year.
[50:49] them last year. Um I I make a motion
[50:53] Um I I make a motion that we do the same, but we they're
[50:55] that we do the same, but we they're asking for 10,000. My motion is that
[50:58] asking for 10,000. My motion is that we'll donate $6,000. We'll match what
[51:01] we'll donate $6,000. We'll match what they did last year. I think it's a
[51:03] they did last year. I think it's a worthy thing for kids, but it is four to
[51:06] worthy thing for kids, but it is four to five kids.
[51:08] five kids. benefiting from this. So, uh, and it
[51:10] benefiting from this. So, uh, and it doesn't totally wipe out what we have
[51:12] doesn't totally wipe out what we have for the rest of the year. So, let's see.
[51:14] for the rest of the year. So, let's see. There's another request coming up right
[51:16] There's another request coming up right after this. So, that'll take us down, I
[51:18] after this. So, that'll take us down, I think, Mr. President, to about what,5 or
[51:20] think, Mr. President, to about what,5 or $6,000 left till
[51:23] $6,000 left till >> Yeah, the next month.
[51:25] >> Yeah, the next month. >> Yeah, it would.
[51:26] >> Yeah, it would. >> So, I'll I'll make that motion.
[51:34] J, where you at on this one?
[51:44] I was at least do that. Um,
[51:48] I was at least do that. Um, I was thinking seven was what the number
[51:50] I was thinking seven was what the number that I had come up with.
[51:59] The um I will say this before we move on
[52:03] The um I will say this before we move on your motion, Mr.
[52:05] your motion, Mr. The uh Philippi library
[52:08] The uh Philippi library project I believe would be best served
[52:11] project I believe would be best served coming out of co reallocation because
[52:13] coming out of co reallocation because it's a community project.
[52:14] it's a community project. >> Yeah.
[52:16] >> Yeah. >> So with that does that
[52:22] does that change my mind? No. Because
[52:25] does that change my mind? No. Because it'll still allow us $6,000 for the
[52:27] it'll still allow us $6,000 for the remainder of the year which is another
[52:28] remainder of the year which is another six weeks,
[52:30] six weeks, >> right?
[52:36] And you did talk to Mrs. Bellan about
[52:38] And you did talk to Mrs. Bellan about this
[52:40] this >> funding requirement.
[52:41] >> funding requirement. >> Yeah. Her her low end um to meet their
[52:44] >> Yeah. Her her low end um to meet their needs for registration was six
[52:46] needs for registration was six >> for registration.
[52:47] >> for registration. >> Yeah. So 6 to 8 was their real goal.
[52:52] >> Yeah. So 6 to 8 was their real goal. >> So
[53:03] Gosh, this is a tough one. I guess it's
[53:05] Gosh, this is a tough one. I guess it's on me now. Um,
[53:08] on me now. Um, we always support these kids and we hope
[53:11] we always support these kids and we hope those kids come back to be the leaders.
[53:14] those kids come back to be the leaders. Uh, that I mean that's what it's about,
[53:16] Uh, that I mean that's what it's about, future business leaders and hopefully
[53:18] future business leaders and hopefully they come back.
[53:20] they come back. Um,
[53:25] and that supports 10 students is what
[53:27] and that supports 10 students is what the application says.
[53:39] >> I got to be honest, I was thinking
[53:40] >> I got to be honest, I was thinking eight. Um,
[53:45] eight. Um, can we compromise at seven or is the
[53:48] can we compromise at seven or is the motion six?
[53:53] I can compromise on seven.
[53:56] I can compromise on seven. >> I appreciate that.
[53:58] >> I appreciate that. >> All right. So, we have a motion to
[54:01] >> All right. So, we have a motion to approve funding of $7,000
[54:05] approve funding of $7,000 for the FBLA Nationals in San Antonio,
[54:10] for the FBLA Nationals in San Antonio, Texas.
[54:13] Is there a second?
[54:14] Is there a second? >> Second.
[54:15] >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. I think
[54:17] >> We have a motion and a second. I think we've had enough discussion. All those
[54:19] we've had enough discussion. All those in favor signify by saying I.
[54:21] in favor signify by saying I. >> I.
[54:22] >> I. >> I. Motion passes 30. And that's how
[54:27] >> I. Motion passes 30. And that's how >> one thing I want
[54:28] >> one thing I want >> politics should work. I
[54:29] >> politics should work. I >> tell the the students when they were
[54:31] >> tell the the students when they were here
[54:32] here at our last meeting, you know, I want to
[54:36] at our last meeting, you know, I want to challenge them to to be a part of the
[54:38] challenge them to to be a part of the run for it program
[54:40] run for it program >> to help fund this, you know, every year.
[54:44] >> to help fund this, you know, every year. >> That's a great idea.
[54:45] >> That's a great idea. >> Yeah. Um because we we give money to the
[54:48] >> Yeah. Um because we we give money to the run forward plus we give you know money
[54:52] run forward plus we give you know money to the FBLA straight every year
[54:55] to the FBLA straight every year >> I think a wonderful idea
[54:57] >> I think a wonderful idea >> they could maybe fund their whole trip
[55:01] >> they could maybe fund their whole trip >> between the two
[55:02] >> between the two >> which some other fundrael
[55:06] >> which some other fundrael >> yeah and they need to learn to do that
[55:08] >> yeah and they need to learn to do that as business leaders and that's going to
[55:10] as business leaders and that's going to be their
[55:11] be their >> and plus that requires so many community
[55:13] >> and plus that requires so many community service hours then that would qualif
[55:15] service hours then that would qualif qualify for it.
[55:16] qualify for it. >> And they all look young and healthy
[55:18] >> And they all look young and healthy enough to run that.
[55:20] enough to run that. >> Make that right.
[55:23] >> Make that right. >> I think that's a wonderful idea and um I
[55:26] >> I think that's a wonderful idea and um I hope that that word gets back to Mrs. B.
[55:34] All right. Um
[55:37] All right. Um B Philippy Library Ramp.
[55:44] This has come before us more than once
[55:48] This has come before us more than once and u
[55:55] they have come with some pretty big
[55:57] they have come with some pretty big numbers
[56:01] >> in the past, but it looks like
[56:05] >> in the past, but it looks like um they have sharpened their pencil as
[56:08] um they have sharpened their pencil as well.
[56:08] well. currently of a $33,000
[56:12] currently of a $33,000 project. Um, and again, just a reminder
[56:16] project. Um, and again, just a reminder as to why this is so costly
[56:20] as to why this is so costly is the
[56:22] is the library has a basement and part of the
[56:24] library has a basement and part of the ramp is doors that lead to that basement
[56:29] ramp is doors that lead to that basement and those doors are rusting out and they
[56:30] and those doors are rusting out and they need to be replaced.
[56:33] need to be replaced. So, this is quite an undertaking. And
[56:35] So, this is quite an undertaking. And these are steel doors and they needed a
[56:38] these are steel doors and they needed a new frame built, welded up, and it's
[56:41] new frame built, welded up, and it's custom built to fit that as they were in
[56:44] custom built to fit that as they were in the beginning. And it's turned into, you
[56:47] the beginning. And it's turned into, you know, new concrete, new steel, and a and
[56:50] know, new concrete, new steel, and a and quite a costly uh
[56:54] quite a costly uh project.
[56:55] project. And it's required for ADA accessibility.
[57:00] And it's required for ADA accessibility. So, um they've really been working hard
[57:04] So, um they've really been working hard to keep the library open and accessible
[57:08] to keep the library open and accessible and um they are they have started on the
[57:12] and um they are they have started on the project it appears and they have uh
[57:15] project it appears and they have uh sharpened their pencil down to a $4,000
[57:18] sharpened their pencil down to a $4,000 request.
[57:19] request. As I stated earlier, this does fall
[57:22] As I stated earlier, this does fall under the uh requirements within the co-
[57:26] under the uh requirements within the co- reallocation funds.
[57:29] reallocation funds. And um
[57:32] And um that said, I'll make a motion that we
[57:34] that said, I'll make a motion that we contribute $4,000 to the Philippe Public
[57:38] contribute $4,000 to the Philippe Public Library project money to come from coal
[57:43] Library project money to come from coal reallocation.
[57:44] reallocation. >> Second.
[57:45] >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any
[57:47] >> We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? How much is the city
[57:50] further discussion? How much is the city I see that they've requested the same
[57:52] I see that they've requested the same amount from the city. Have they made
[57:55] amount from the city. Have they made that determination yet?
[57:56] that determination yet? >> I don't know. I know they've received
[57:59] >> I don't know. I know they've received three grants um that total a great
[58:01] three grants um that total a great portion of that total, but I I don't
[58:04] portion of that total, but I I don't know if they received that donation from
[58:06] know if they received that donation from the city.
[58:10] I just recently saw someone maybe in the
[58:13] I just recently saw someone maybe in the city or I don't know if it's county, but
[58:15] city or I don't know if it's county, but we'll match up to $3,000
[58:17] we'll match up to $3,000 of donations
[58:19] of donations just recently.
[58:20] just recently. >> Well, I think that was the Barber
[58:21] >> Well, I think that was the Barber Community Foundation
[58:23] Community Foundation had a campaign running.
[58:25] had a campaign running. >> Yeah,
[58:29] those are the question I have.
[58:38] That's a good question and I hope that
[58:41] That's a good question and I hope that it does get com they they come through
[58:44] it does get com they they come through with that funding to finish this
[58:46] with that funding to finish this project.
[58:49] project. All right, we have a motion and a
[58:51] All right, we have a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by
[58:53] second. All those in favor signify by saying I. I.
[58:55] saying I. I. >> I. Motion passes 30.
[58:58] >> I. Motion passes 30. >> Mr. President, I have a question here.
[59:00] >> Mr. President, I have a question here. Would we be able to switch eight coming
[59:02] Would we be able to switch eight coming up next? that Sheriff Kartman doesn't
[59:03] up next? that Sheriff Kartman doesn't have to stay here.
[59:05] have to stay here. >> Sure.
[59:06] >> Sure. >> Uh
[59:09] >> Uh and I and I I'll take that to start out.
[59:12] and I and I I'll take that to start out. Uh I think it was talked about sometime
[59:15] Uh I think it was talked about sometime in the past about opening up the front
[59:18] in the past about opening up the front door to the courthouse. I think we're
[59:20] door to the courthouse. I think we're one of two courouses in the state that
[59:22] one of two courouses in the state that you have to use the rear door, the
[59:24] you have to use the rear door, the basement door. They only be in
[59:25] basement door. They only be in Pocahontas County. Uh I actually talked
[59:28] Pocahontas County. Uh I actually talked to Brett about this and I'll let him
[59:31] to Brett about this and I'll let him talk on it. He said he's talked about
[59:33] talk on it. He said he's talked about this for years about doing that. We have
[59:36] this for years about doing that. We have a beautiful courthouse and we got to
[59:38] a beautiful courthouse and we got to come in the basement door. Uh I know the
[59:40] come in the basement door. Uh I know the sheriff's department's in charge of
[59:42] sheriff's department's in charge of courthouse security. So I'll let him
[59:43] courthouse security. So I'll let him take it from there and then we can go
[59:46] take it from there and then we can go from there and see what can and can't be
[59:48] from there and see what can and can't be be done. Right.
[59:53] be done. Right. >> Well, my biggest concern was having I
[59:55] >> Well, my biggest concern was having I understand how the grant work and now
[59:57] understand how the grant work and now the grant got the metal detector and
[59:59] the grant got the metal detector and X-ray machine. So that is I think one
[01:00:02] X-ray machine. So that is I think one thing that needs to be dealt with. But
[01:00:03] thing that needs to be dealt with. But you also got to think that every time
[01:00:04] you also got to think that every time that we have court like today circuit
[01:00:07] that we have court like today circuit court, whether it be grand jury, whether
[01:00:09] court, whether it be grand jury, whether it be inmates coming in from Madison
[01:00:11] it be inmates coming in from Madison court, while the public standing over,
[01:00:13] court, while the public standing over, we got to bring these individuals in and
[01:00:15] we got to bring these individuals in and out. And while we got our inmates down
[01:00:17] out. And while we got our inmates down in our jail, they're screaming and
[01:00:19] in our jail, they're screaming and hollering, saying things they shouldn't
[01:00:20] hollering, saying things they shouldn't be saying, and we got women and children
[01:00:22] be saying, and we got women and children walking in and out of there. Thirdly,
[01:00:25] walking in and out of there. Thirdly, anytime we bring an inmate in here whom
[01:00:27] anytime we bring an inmate in here whom we've arrested and we got to get them
[01:00:29] we've arrested and we got to get them back to holding cell. They're fighting
[01:00:31] back to holding cell. They're fighting us. We got to fight through the public
[01:00:33] us. We got to fight through the public to get them through there. It's just
[01:00:34] to get them through there. It's just going to take one individual to strike
[01:00:35] going to take one individual to strike out in the public that bottom door and
[01:00:38] out in the public that bottom door and we're back in a lawsuit.
[01:00:40] we're back in a lawsuit. Hence, just two weeks ago when we had
[01:00:43] Hence, just two weeks ago when we had one that attacked our deputies and we
[01:00:45] one that attacked our deputies and we had to get him down here, had to put him
[01:00:46] had to get him down here, had to put him in that holding cell until we get to
[01:00:48] in that holding cell until we get to magic school, get him rained. Luckily,
[01:00:50] magic school, get him rained. Luckily, it was after hours. And if we had that
[01:00:52] it was after hours. And if we had that guy, we'd had the back bottom full.
[01:00:55] guy, we'd had the back bottom full. No people would have been coming in and
[01:00:57] No people would have been coming in and out.
[01:00:59] out. And that's something you have to look
[01:01:00] And that's something you have to look at. And the people say, "Would you, you
[01:01:03] at. And the people say, "Would you, you know, it's getting worse out there.
[01:01:06] know, it's getting worse out there. We're dragging them out. We're DUI. We
[01:01:08] We're dragging them out. We're DUI. We got a DUI. We have to bring them through
[01:01:09] got a DUI. We have to bring them through that basement for the tox. And once
[01:01:12] that basement for the tox. And once again, you're bringing right through
[01:01:13] again, you're bringing right through right through the bank.
[01:01:16] right through the bank. And all that stuff can be moved up
[01:01:18] And all that stuff can be moved up front. It does have to be there. If the
[01:01:21] front. It does have to be there. If the individual needs a killer in a
[01:01:22] individual needs a killer in a wheelchair, you can't want them to run
[01:01:25] wheelchair, you can't want them to run through the metal detector anyway. So,
[01:01:26] through the metal detector anyway. So, what do you do? You bypass a metal
[01:01:28] what do you do? You bypass a metal detector instead of that elevator. So,
[01:01:30] detector instead of that elevator. So, what's the difference if they come
[01:01:32] what's the difference if they come through down there? whether metal
[01:01:33] through down there? whether metal detectors there or not cuz you can't
[01:01:35] detectors there or not cuz you can't want a motor wheelchair in the first
[01:01:37] want a motor wheelchair in the first place.
[01:01:40] But eventually the wrong person is going
[01:01:42] But eventually the wrong person is going to come in here at the wrong time
[01:01:46] to come in here at the wrong time working hours and we're going to have an
[01:01:48] working hours and we're going to have an incident with the public.
[01:01:50] incident with the public. All it takes is a spit, a kick, a bite,
[01:01:53] All it takes is a spit, a kick, a bite, and we're in trouble. And you got every
[01:01:56] and we're in trouble. And you got every individual coming in this courthouse
[01:01:58] individual coming in this courthouse that basement.
[01:02:02] >> When you bring inmates into the
[01:02:05] >> When you bring inmates into the basement, which door do you use?
[01:02:07] basement, which door do you use? this back door here that someone's
[01:02:09] this back door here that someone's walking the elevator, they're coming
[01:02:11] walking the elevator, they're coming right with us.
[01:02:13] right with us. That's my worry.
[01:02:24] Well, Shane, you know, you you and I
[01:02:26] Well, Shane, you know, you you and I have measured there. You know, when
[01:02:29] have measured there. You know, when Jamie, Commissioner Carpenter was here,
[01:02:32] Jamie, Commissioner Carpenter was here, he was a big advocate of opening those
[01:02:34] he was a big advocate of opening those doors. myself, Mr. Straight, all of us
[01:02:37] doors. myself, Mr. Straight, all of us would love to be able to use those
[01:02:39] would love to be able to use those doors. Um, we have measured everything.
[01:02:42] doors. Um, we have measured everything. Everything would fit right there. Um,
[01:02:50] but the hold up before was
[01:02:54] but the hold up before was the gentleman's name.
[01:02:56] the gentleman's name. >> Oh, Mr. Angus.
[01:02:57] >> Oh, Mr. Angus. >> Yes.
[01:02:58] >> Yes. >> The the biggest thing is a single point
[01:03:00] >> The the biggest thing is a single point in and out.
[01:03:02] in and out. So, if the front doors are open, the
[01:03:04] So, if the front doors are open, the basement door is closed. So, I mean,
[01:03:07] basement door is closed. So, I mean, where I where I'm at is logistically,
[01:03:10] where I where I'm at is logistically, how does the person upstairs with the
[01:03:12] how does the person upstairs with the main door know that there's someone
[01:03:15] main door know that there's someone handicapping in the back door? I can't.
[01:05:33] Well, that's that's where we halted last
[01:05:36] Well, that's that's where we halted last two times back.
[01:05:38] two times back. >> Yeah.
[01:05:40] >> Yeah. >> But he was here and in charge before
[01:05:43] >> But he was here and in charge before when the front door was open.
[01:05:46] when the front door was open. >> So what changed?
[01:05:51] No,
[01:05:52] No, >> I think that the change was
[01:05:54] >> I think that the change was implementation of security. So, just
[01:05:56] implementation of security. So, just changing that
[01:05:58] changing that and making sure it still meets.
[01:06:01] and making sure it still meets. >> Is it for ADA or is it for security?
[01:06:06] >> Is it for ADA or is it for security? >> I mean, I think his focus is security,
[01:06:08] >> I mean, I think his focus is security, isn't it? And my understanding, and I
[01:06:11] isn't it? And my understanding, and I may be wrong, but my understanding is
[01:06:14] may be wrong, but my understanding is that that was changed for um security
[01:06:19] that that was changed for um security that he he was instrumental in getting
[01:06:22] that he he was instrumental in getting that change.
[01:06:26] So, who needs to talk to him? Sheriff,
[01:06:32] >> would you do that, Brett?
[01:06:34] >> would you do that, Brett? >> Absolutely.
[01:06:37] That make sense, Mr. President?
[01:06:39] That make sense, Mr. President? >> Sure.
[01:06:40] >> Sure. >> See what you find out cuz security
[01:06:42] >> See what you find out cuz security questions are going to come to you
[01:06:43] questions are going to come to you anyway.
[01:06:46] anyway. >> Thanks, Brett.
[01:06:47] >> Thanks, Brett. >> Anything else by for us?
[01:06:49] >> Anything else by for us? >> All right. Thank you, Brett.
[01:06:56] >> Thanks for moving.
[01:06:57] >> Thanks for moving. >> How's your new
[01:07:00] >> How's your new folks working out?
[01:07:03] folks working out? >> Talk later.
[01:07:04] >> Talk later. >> Okay. All righty.
[01:07:07] >> Okay. All righty. >> All right.
[01:07:09] >> All right. >> Thank you.
[01:07:10] >> Thank you. >> Uh, thank you. Appreciate you.
[01:07:15] >> Item number five, IT services. Larry
[01:07:18] >> Item number five, IT services. Larry McIll
[01:07:20] McIll or not,
[01:07:21] or not, >> please.
[01:07:21] >> please. >> Okay.
[01:07:23] >> Okay. >> Even though Mr. Tabot couldn't stay with
[01:07:24] >> Even though Mr. Tabot couldn't stay with us,
[01:07:26] us, >> but he gave us
[01:07:27] >> but he gave us >> We want to use the the podium.
[01:07:29] >> We want to use the the podium. >> He gave us instruction to make sure we
[01:07:31] >> He gave us instruction to make sure we follow.
[01:07:32] follow. >> Oh, okay. Well, good. He put Sam in
[01:07:34] >> Oh, okay. Well, good. He put Sam in charge.
[01:07:38] >> Well, good morning everybody. Um, my
[01:07:40] >> Well, good morning everybody. Um, my name is Larry McGill. For those of you
[01:07:42] name is Larry McGill. For those of you on camera that don't know me, um, I'm a
[01:07:46] on camera that don't know me, um, I'm a resident of Barber County and an IT
[01:07:48] resident of Barber County and an IT professional that deals with remote
[01:07:50] professional that deals with remote support and network infrastructure
[01:07:52] support and network infrastructure daily.
[01:07:54] daily. And, um, I'm here today to discuss a
[01:07:56] And, um, I'm here today to discuss a critical pillar of the county's public
[01:07:59] critical pillar of the county's public safety and fiscal responsibility. That's
[01:08:02] safety and fiscal responsibility. That's our information technology.
[01:08:05] our information technology. In 2026, it is no longer just the
[01:08:08] In 2026, it is no longer just the computer department. It's uh the bulk of
[01:08:12] computer department. It's uh the bulk of our citizens uh private records, the
[01:08:15] our citizens uh private records, the engine of our tax office,
[01:08:18] engine of our tax office, and the primary shield protecting Barber
[01:08:20] and the primary shield protecting Barber County from the rising tide of regional
[01:08:22] County from the rising tide of regional cyber crime.
[01:08:25] cyber crime. There's this dangerous misconception
[01:08:27] There's this dangerous misconception that hackers only go after the the big
[01:08:29] that hackers only go after the the big fish like Silicon Valley or major
[01:08:32] fish like Silicon Valley or major corporations. Well, there's a lot of
[01:08:35] corporations. Well, there's a lot of network security in place with them and
[01:08:38] network security in place with them and those are harder to tackle. So, it's
[01:08:41] those are harder to tackle. So, it's easier to go after the hackers are
[01:08:43] easier to go after the hackers are notorious for for being lazy people.
[01:08:46] notorious for for being lazy people. They want the lowhanging fruit. The less
[01:08:48] They want the lowhanging fruit. The less work they've got to do on their end, the
[01:08:50] work they've got to do on their end, the easier it is to get money. So, they're
[01:08:52] easier it is to get money. So, they're going to go after the smaller people and
[01:08:54] going to go after the smaller people and demand large amounts of money.
[01:08:58] demand large amounts of money. So, we don't have to look far for proof.
[01:09:03] So, we don't have to look far for proof. In April, on April 23rd,
[01:09:06] In April, on April 23rd, Harrison County was hacked.
[01:09:10] Harrison County was hacked. They had in place GSD.
[01:09:13] They had in place GSD. They had just hired a new IT guy that
[01:09:16] They had just hired a new IT guy that was inexperienced
[01:09:18] was inexperienced and left a security breach.
[01:09:22] and left a security breach. Now, what happened? Their tax office
[01:09:25] Now, what happened? Their tax office went down. Their clerk's office went
[01:09:28] went down. Their clerk's office went down. They were sending people from
[01:09:30] down. They were sending people from Harrison County to Barber County to get
[01:09:33] Harrison County to Barber County to get marriage license because they couldn't
[01:09:34] marriage license because they couldn't operate. they had to offer or they had
[01:09:38] operate. they had to offer or they had to uh hire cyber security forensic
[01:09:42] to uh hire cyber security forensic experts
[01:09:43] experts to find out if they even had their data
[01:09:46] to find out if they even had their data still in existence, let alone whether
[01:09:48] still in existence, let alone whether they could access it or not.
[01:09:51] they could access it or not. So it's it's not just, you know, off in
[01:09:54] So it's it's not just, you know, off in New York, LA, Miami, wherever you think
[01:09:57] New York, LA, Miami, wherever you think that major cyber crimes happen. It's
[01:10:00] that major cyber crimes happen. It's hitting close to home. Another example,
[01:10:03] hitting close to home. Another example, city city of uh Huntington in February,
[01:10:08] city city of uh Huntington in February, they were attacked by a ransomware group
[01:10:10] they were attacked by a ransomware group called Termite.
[01:10:12] called Termite. So um also in March of this year, Ohio
[01:10:17] So um also in March of this year, Ohio County schools went down for an entire
[01:10:19] County schools went down for an entire week.
[01:10:21] week. um Fairmont Federal Credit Union last
[01:10:24] um Fairmont Federal Credit Union last September they finally concluded a hack
[01:10:27] September they finally concluded a hack that uh two years prior uh they had to
[01:10:32] that uh two years prior uh they had to notify 187,000 people that they had been
[01:10:35] notify 187,000 people that they had been hacked and that their uh personal
[01:10:37] hacked and that their uh personal information had been compromised and
[01:10:40] information had been compromised and that uh um they they may have uh medical
[01:10:45] that uh um they they may have uh medical data and financial data may have been
[01:10:47] data and financial data may have been stolen.
[01:10:49] stolen. And then I think we're all pretty
[01:10:51] And then I think we're all pretty familiar with what happened with M
[01:10:52] familiar with what happened with M Health back in 2021.
[01:10:56] Health back in 2021. Uh they faced a hack that u went on and
[01:10:59] Uh they faced a hack that u went on and they were still mitigating damages all
[01:11:02] they were still mitigating damages all the way through 2025.
[01:11:06] So uh
[01:11:09] So uh they had network shutdown and they it
[01:11:11] they had network shutdown and they it disrupted healthcare for the entire
[01:11:13] disrupted healthcare for the entire region.
[01:11:16] region. Now, the average cost of a data breach
[01:11:17] Now, the average cost of a data breach in 26 has climbed toward $5 million. And
[01:11:22] in 26 has climbed toward $5 million. And when you factor in forensics, legal
[01:11:24] when you factor in forensics, legal liability, and mandatory victim
[01:11:26] liability, and mandatory victim notification services
[01:11:28] notification services for a county of our size, and a single
[01:11:31] for a county of our size, and a single breach isn't just an inconvenience.
[01:11:34] breach isn't just an inconvenience. It's going to be a budgetary
[01:11:35] It's going to be a budgetary catastrophe.
[01:11:38] So, I'm advocating for a shift on how we
[01:11:40] So, I'm advocating for a shift on how we view the IT budget and instead of
[01:11:43] view the IT budget and instead of looking at it as we currently do, see it
[01:11:45] looking at it as we currently do, see it as a high yield insurance policy.
[01:11:48] as a high yield insurance policy. Expert knowledge and proactive planning
[01:11:50] Expert knowledge and proactive planning save the county money in three distinct
[01:11:52] save the county money in three distinct ways. Number one, prevention overcure,
[01:11:56] ways. Number one, prevention overcure, operation resilience, and efficiency and
[01:11:59] operation resilience, and efficiency and compliance.
[01:12:02] compliance. We have a chance to learn from the
[01:12:03] We have a chance to learn from the disruptions in Harrison County and Ohio
[01:12:06] disruptions in Harrison County and Ohio counties. We can choose to be the county
[01:12:08] counties. We can choose to be the county that was prepared rather than the county
[01:12:11] that was prepared rather than the county that makes headlines.
[01:12:15] By investing in professional IT
[01:12:17] By investing in professional IT oversight, modern security protocols,
[01:12:19] oversight, modern security protocols, and rigorous planning, we aren't just
[01:12:21] and rigorous planning, we aren't just buying tech.
[01:12:23] buying tech. We're securing trust and future in every
[01:12:26] We're securing trust and future in every resident in Barber County.
[01:12:32] And
[01:12:36] what I would propose
[01:12:39] what I would propose due to the fact that
[01:12:43] even though GST was in place in Harrison
[01:12:47] even though GST was in place in Harrison County
[01:12:48] County and this still occurred.
[01:12:52] and this still occurred. Um, and then in order to recover the
[01:12:56] Um, and then in order to recover the data that was lost, they had to go
[01:12:58] data that was lost, they had to go outside of GST and hire another firm
[01:13:01] outside of GST and hire another firm entirely.
[01:13:03] entirely. I would propose a full-time IT person in
[01:13:06] I would propose a full-time IT person in Barber County that can prevent these
[01:13:10] Barber County that can prevent these these types of incidents by constant
[01:13:13] these types of incidents by constant network monitoring,
[01:13:15] network monitoring, by being able to plan and develop an IT
[01:13:19] by being able to plan and develop an IT infrastructure that meets the needs
[01:13:21] infrastructure that meets the needs today and into the future
[01:13:24] today and into the future and that would be available 247.
[01:13:31] So that that wraps up what I had to say.
[01:13:35] So that that wraps up what I had to say. Any questions?
[01:13:44] What type of added expense is this?
[01:13:48] What type of added expense is this? Not hiring. If if we let's say we're not
[01:13:50] Not hiring. If if we let's say we're not going to hire somebody, but we would
[01:13:53] going to hire somebody, but we would have have your company or somebody's
[01:13:55] have have your company or somebody's company to over oversee what we already
[01:13:57] company to over oversee what we already have. What type of ad expense are we
[01:14:00] have. What type of ad expense are we looking at?
[01:14:00] looking at? >> Well, you're looking at a full-time IT
[01:14:02] >> Well, you're looking at a full-time IT professional and if you're looking at
[01:14:05] professional and if you're looking at their salary outside of West Virginia,
[01:14:08] their salary outside of West Virginia, you're looking at over $100,000.
[01:14:11] you're looking at over $100,000. But, uh, if you hire somebody locally,
[01:14:15] But, uh, if you hire somebody locally, um,
[01:14:17] um, I would suggest somebody such as myself
[01:14:20] I would suggest somebody such as myself who has a computer science degree. um I
[01:14:28] 70 to 80,000 a year
[01:14:30] 70 to 80,000 a year and um that
[01:14:33] and um that that would be if you look at the price
[01:14:35] that would be if you look at the price of the current GST contracts around the
[01:14:38] of the current GST contracts around the county between the courthouse and
[01:14:40] county between the courthouse and emergency services and add up all the
[01:14:43] emergency services and add up all the contracts together,
[01:14:45] contracts together, you should find that uh that more than
[01:14:47] you should find that uh that more than meets the need.
[01:14:56] So,
[01:14:57] So, what is the co our current GST contract
[01:15:01] what is the co our current GST contract costs?
[01:15:02] costs? >> It's um just over 1,900 a month.
[01:15:06] >> It's um just over 1,900 a month. And then EMS is just under five.
[01:15:13] >> So, $2,400 a month.
[01:15:23] a little
[01:15:25] a little bit
[01:15:28] >> and the courthouse contract covers
[01:15:31] >> and the courthouse contract covers everywhere except for I mean EMS is a
[01:15:33] everywhere except for I mean EMS is a different entity so they have their own
[01:15:34] different entity so they have their own contract but
[01:15:36] contract but >> and
[01:15:39] >> and so great presentation by the way
[01:15:42] so great presentation by the way >> thank you
[01:15:43] >> thank you >> um
[01:15:44] >> um here's my concern Larry after listening
[01:15:47] here's my concern Larry after listening into this. This is what popped out at
[01:15:49] into this. This is what popped out at me.
[01:15:51] me. So, despite having
[01:15:54] So, despite having what sounds to me like in Harrison
[01:15:56] what sounds to me like in Harrison County, and correct me if I'm wrong, GST
[01:15:59] County, and correct me if I'm wrong, GST plus their own full-time people,
[01:16:03] plus their own full-time people, this happened and then they had to hire
[01:16:07] this happened and then they had to hire a forensic expert,
[01:16:08] a forensic expert, >> right?
[01:16:09] >> right? >> So, they had exactly what you're
[01:16:12] >> So, they had exactly what you're proposing?
[01:16:13] proposing? >> No.
[01:16:14] >> No. >> No. Okay. They hired an inexperienced IT
[01:16:17] >> No. Okay. They hired an inexperienced IT guy, a I'm I'm fiddling with computers
[01:16:21] guy, a I'm I'm fiddling with computers in my grandma's basement kind of kid and
[01:16:24] in my grandma's basement kind of kid and didn't know what he was doing whenever
[01:16:25] didn't know what he was doing whenever he got in there and left a big security
[01:16:28] he got in there and left a big security breach with the firewall.
[01:16:30] breach with the firewall. >> Yeah.
[01:16:31] >> Yeah. >> Okay.
[01:16:32] >> Okay. But
[01:16:34] But >> I have over 25 years of IT experience
[01:16:36] >> I have over 25 years of IT experience coming with me. I'm not fiddling with
[01:16:38] coming with me. I'm not fiddling with computers in my grandma's basement.
[01:16:41] computers in my grandma's basement. >> But they still had GST plus a purse.
[01:16:44] >> But they still had GST plus a purse. Yes.
[01:16:44] Yes. >> A person.
[01:16:45] >> A person. >> Yeah.
[01:16:47] >> Yeah. >> And
[01:16:49] >> And I would assume you're not an IT
[01:16:51] I would assume you're not an IT forensics expert that would help pull
[01:16:55] forensics expert that would help pull straighten up this breach or find the
[01:16:59] straighten up this breach or find the details. Is that correct?
[01:17:01] details. Is that correct? >> The my experience has been in
[01:17:04] >> The my experience has been in prevention.
[01:17:05] prevention. >> Prevent. Okay.
[01:17:06] >> Prevent. Okay. >> Yes.
[01:17:06] >> Yes. >> Fair enough.
[01:17:09] >> Fair enough. All right.
[01:17:13] I have a question, Larry. So,
[01:17:17] I have a question, Larry. So, if I'm hearing you right, so you're
[01:17:19] if I'm hearing you right, so you're saying if you would have been in charge
[01:17:20] saying if you would have been in charge in Harrison County, this couldn't have
[01:17:22] in Harrison County, this couldn't have happened,
[01:17:23] happened, >> right?
[01:17:23] >> right? >> It it couldn't have happened,
[01:17:24] >> It it couldn't have happened, >> right?
[01:17:25] >> right? >> 100% guaranteed. It could not have
[01:17:27] >> 100% guaranteed. It could not have happened.
[01:17:28] happened. >> It would not have happened because the
[01:17:29] >> It would not have happened because the hole that the hackers used would not
[01:17:31] hole that the hackers used would not have existed.
[01:17:33] have existed. the um they were implementing new
[01:17:36] the um they were implementing new firewall standards and that was allowed
[01:17:39] firewall standards and that was allowed to be put in place and those are I
[01:17:42] to be put in place and those are I understand firewall protocols very well
[01:17:45] understand firewall protocols very well and would not have allowed the whole to
[01:17:47] and would not have allowed the whole to exist in the first place
[01:17:59] any further questions or discussion
[01:18:03] any further questions or discussion So your proposal is just do a clear away
[01:18:05] So your proposal is just do a clear away with GST.
[01:18:07] with GST. >> Yes.
[01:18:09] >> Yes. >> Another issue that has come up with GST
[01:18:12] >> Another issue that has come up with GST is uh recently they were they went
[01:18:15] is uh recently they were they went through some restructuring and uh there
[01:18:18] through some restructuring and uh there were uh they were called to work on some
[01:18:22] were uh they were called to work on some computers here and they deleted files
[01:18:26] computers here and they deleted files and then files that should not have been
[01:18:28] and then files that should not have been accessed by other departments. court
[01:18:31] accessed by other departments. court files were made accessible by other
[01:18:33] files were made accessible by other people. So, it was
[01:18:40] they've got issues is all I'm saying.
[01:18:46] >> It's just me. I wasn't aware of that,
[01:18:48] >> It's just me. I wasn't aware of that, but
[01:18:48] but >> yeah, maybe.
[01:18:50] >> yeah, maybe. >> Can I ask how you know that?
[01:18:53] >> Can I ask how you know that? >> Uh, discussions with my wife.
[01:18:55] >> Uh, discussions with my wife. >> Okay.
[01:18:57] >> Okay. And do we know if that's been rectified
[01:18:58] And do we know if that's been rectified or do I need to reach out about that?
[01:19:00] or do I need to reach out about that? >> It was it was rectified.
[01:19:03] >> It was it was rectified. >> Brian fixed the issue.
[01:19:08] >> Brian fixed the issue. >> Okay.
[01:19:11] >> All right. Well, thanks Larry. I
[01:19:12] >> All right. Well, thanks Larry. I appreciate you coming to us and you
[01:19:15] appreciate you coming to us and you certainly have given us something to
[01:19:16] certainly have given us something to think about and u in a direction we
[01:19:20] think about and u in a direction we weren't thinking. Okay.
[01:19:22] weren't thinking. Okay. >> Thanks, Larry. You're welcome.
[01:19:26] >> Thanks, Larry. You're welcome. Item number seven, Barber County
[01:19:28] Item number seven, Barber County Fairgrounds July 4th Independence Day
[01:19:31] Fairgrounds July 4th Independence Day celebration.
[01:19:35] So, um the Parker Rec Group has been
[01:19:38] So, um the Parker Rec Group has been working quite a long time on this um
[01:19:41] working quite a long time on this um event coming up on actually on July 4th
[01:19:45] event coming up on actually on July 4th this year um that began last year in
[01:19:49] this year um that began last year in discussions with our fireworks um fella.
[01:19:52] discussions with our fireworks um fella. So, he has secured that day for us. Um,
[01:19:58] So, he has secured that day for us. Um, at our last week park and wreck meeting,
[01:20:01] at our last week park and wreck meeting, we kind of hashed out what exactly we're
[01:20:04] we kind of hashed out what exactly we're having because July is going to be here
[01:20:06] having because July is going to be here before we know it. So, um, the live
[01:20:10] before we know it. So, um, the live music has determined to be Tennessee
[01:20:13] music has determined to be Tennessee Outlaw Country. Um, they're a Nashville
[01:20:17] Outlaw Country. Um, they're a Nashville recording artist group. Um they'll be
[01:20:20] recording artist group. Um they'll be playing between 7:00 and 9:00. Uh we'll
[01:20:24] playing between 7:00 and 9:00. Uh we'll have ATV races um pretty much all day.
[01:20:28] have ATV races um pretty much all day. Um the health department is organizing a
[01:20:31] Um the health department is organizing a collar walk. Um so we're happy to have
[01:20:34] collar walk. Um so we're happy to have their collaboration with the event. Um
[01:20:38] their collaboration with the event. Um Patty De Logger is heading up the parade
[01:20:41] Patty De Logger is heading up the parade and um
[01:20:44] and um probably a car show. Those details are
[01:20:47] probably a car show. Those details are still being hashed out.
[01:20:49] still being hashed out. Um 4 will be putting together a pet
[01:20:51] Um 4 will be putting together a pet show.
[01:20:53] show. Um and then vendors and food vendors
[01:20:56] Um and then vendors and food vendors will be there um pretty much all day. Um
[01:21:00] will be there um pretty much all day. Um we had heard from
[01:21:03] we had heard from um a wrestling group, the Mountain State
[01:21:06] um a wrestling group, the Mountain State Wrestling Federation. And Corey, can you
[01:21:08] Wrestling Federation. And Corey, can you touch on that? Did you meet with him
[01:21:10] touch on that? Did you meet with him yesterday?
[01:21:10] yesterday? >> Uh yes. So, I met with him yesterday and
[01:21:12] >> Uh yes. So, I met with him yesterday and he just needed a um a flat area with
[01:21:15] he just needed a um a flat area with access to electricity and he would like
[01:21:17] access to electricity and he would like to do like a 2-hour show uh sometime in
[01:21:21] to do like a 2-hour show uh sometime in during the day. Um I showed him around a
[01:21:24] during the day. Um I showed him around a couple spots uh showed him the covered
[01:21:26] couple spots uh showed him the covered arena cuz we thought that that would be
[01:21:27] arena cuz we thought that that would be the best considering weather is
[01:21:29] the best considering weather is unpredictable, especially the last
[01:21:31] unpredictable, especially the last couple Fourth of July that we've had. uh
[01:21:33] couple Fourth of July that we've had. uh he had concerns about the material
[01:21:36] he had concerns about the material that's down, which is basically sand, um
[01:21:39] that's down, which is basically sand, um getting on the mats and stuff like that
[01:21:41] getting on the mats and stuff like that because it's they're kind of sensitive
[01:21:43] because it's they're kind of sensitive to that kind of debris. Um so we kind of
[01:21:46] to that kind of debris. Um so we kind of looked at some other spots and I need to
[01:21:48] looked at some other spots and I need to bring it up with the group. um the back
[01:21:50] bring it up with the group. um the back of the stage last year, the back end of
[01:21:53] of the stage last year, the back end of the stage area we utilized for putt putt
[01:21:56] the stage area we utilized for putt putt golf last year, but he expressed, you
[01:21:58] golf last year, but he expressed, you know, interest in that kind of being his
[01:22:00] know, interest in that kind of being his top priority, which I told him that, you
[01:22:02] top priority, which I told him that, you know, we have a music act
[01:22:06] know, we have a music act right after his proposed time. So, that
[01:22:10] right after his proposed time. So, that might be an issue that we need to
[01:22:12] might be an issue that we need to address with the musical guest. But then
[01:22:14] address with the musical guest. But then he also uh we went up behind the food
[01:22:17] he also uh we went up behind the food stands where we typically have um the
[01:22:20] stands where we typically have um the command trailer set up. We have a little
[01:22:22] command trailer set up. We have a little flat null and he said that that would be
[01:22:24] flat null and he said that that would be kind of the second choice and then if
[01:22:26] kind of the second choice and then if have to be he would get some supplies to
[01:22:29] have to be he would get some supplies to do it over in the cover arena
[01:22:32] do it over in the cover arena >> but he he was very interested in in
[01:22:34] >> but he he was very interested in in joining us on our event this year.
[01:22:36] joining us on our event this year. >> Okay. So that was worked into our um
[01:22:39] >> Okay. So that was worked into our um budget proposal and then obviously
[01:22:40] budget proposal and then obviously fireworks. Um we have requested a little
[01:22:44] fireworks. Um we have requested a little bit larger show since it is the 250th
[01:22:47] bit larger show since it is the 250th anniversary. Um so the total of the
[01:22:51] anniversary. Um so the total of the budget is 16,000.
[01:22:54] budget is 16,000. Um so last year's budget was 10. Um but
[01:22:58] Um so last year's budget was 10. Um but the largest increase from last year and
[01:23:01] the largest increase from last year and this year is the fireworks. Um and then
[01:23:06] this year is the fireworks. Um and then we also have playing face painting all
[01:23:08] we also have playing face painting all day that would be free to um those
[01:23:12] day that would be free to um those coming to the event.
[01:23:14] coming to the event. So um generally the county commission
[01:23:16] So um generally the county commission has 15,000 um allocated for contribution
[01:23:20] has 15,000 um allocated for contribution to the park and wreck fund. So that's
[01:23:22] to the park and wreck fund. So that's where this would um come from and then
[01:23:25] where this would um come from and then the extra thousand would be out of the
[01:23:27] the extra thousand would be out of the park and wreck um account. So, and then
[01:23:31] park and wreck um account. So, and then this budget also includes
[01:23:34] this budget also includes um a payment to both EMS and fire for
[01:23:38] um a payment to both EMS and fire for their contribution of their time during
[01:23:42] their contribution of their time during the fireworks and um the ATV race since
[01:23:45] the fireworks and um the ATV race since it is I mean they are having the race
[01:23:48] it is I mean they are having the race because of our event. So, we work that
[01:23:51] because of our event. So, we work that into our event budget.
[01:23:54] into our event budget. So, that's where we are.
[01:24:12] questions, motions.
[01:24:16] questions, motions. I've been involved in this day along
[01:24:17] I've been involved in this day along with Shane and a bunch of other people
[01:24:18] with Shane and a bunch of other people for four or five meetings or whatever we
[01:24:20] for four or five meetings or whatever we had up there and Corey and some other
[01:24:23] had up there and Corey and some other folks. uh 250th anniversary. Great
[01:24:26] folks. uh 250th anniversary. Great event, a lot more going on than last
[01:24:28] event, a lot more going on than last year. I was out there last year from 7
[01:24:30] year. I was out there last year from 7 o'clock in the morning till after the
[01:24:32] o'clock in the morning till after the fireworks.
[01:24:34] fireworks. Um I make a motion that we approve
[01:24:37] Um I make a motion that we approve $16,000 for July 4th community
[01:24:39] $16,000 for July 4th community celebration.
[01:24:43] I'll second.
[01:24:46] I'll second. We have a motion and a second
[01:24:49] We have a motion and a second to contribute $16,000
[01:24:52] to contribute $16,000 to the uh 250th year July 4th
[01:24:55] to the uh 250th year July 4th celebration uh at the Barber County
[01:24:58] celebration uh at the Barber County Fairground.
[01:25:00] Fairground. Any further discussion?
[01:25:03] Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify
[01:25:05] Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Motion passes 30.
[01:25:11] All right. Unless I'm missing something.
[01:25:14] All right. Unless I'm missing something. We jumped around quite a bit on the
[01:25:16] We jumped around quite a bit on the agenda. I think we've covered
[01:25:17] agenda. I think we've covered everything. So, um, except that, uh,
[01:25:22] everything. So, um, except that, uh, today is Shaina's birthday.
[01:25:24] today is Shaina's birthday. >> Yes, it did.
[01:25:25] >> Yes, it did. >> So, everybody wish Shaya a happy
[01:25:27] >> So, everybody wish Shaya a happy birthday today. 28.
[01:25:29] birthday today. 28. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
[01:25:33] >> Yeah. Yeah, that's right. >> Well, thank you.
[01:25:34] >> Well, thank you. >> Thank you. Sha, don't tell us how old
[01:25:36] >> Thank you. Sha, don't tell us how old you are, but when you were born, what
[01:25:38] you are, but when you were born, what year were you born?
[01:25:42] as I told somebody the late 1900s.
[01:25:45] as I told somebody the late 1900s. >> Yeah, here you go
[01:25:48] >> Yeah, here you go >> or mid.
[01:25:52] All right. Item number 10, public
[01:25:54] All right. Item number 10, public comment.
[01:25:57] >> My comment or my question is
[01:26:00] >> My comment or my question is >> that we have several different school
[01:26:03] >> that we have several different school organizations in the county. M
[01:26:05] organizations in the county. M >> how do they go about knowing about funds
[01:26:07] >> how do they go about knowing about funds that is available through the commission
[01:26:10] that is available through the commission just like this FBLA
[01:26:13] just like this FBLA >> we have the FFA
[01:26:16] >> we have the FFA >> out of Tri County we have some of the
[01:26:18] >> out of Tri County we have some of the finest tradesmen
[01:26:20] finest tradesmen right and matter of fact they went to
[01:26:22] right and matter of fact they went to the national championship and brought
[01:26:24] the national championship and brought home the first place prizes I can name
[01:26:26] home the first place prizes I can name you some boys
[01:26:28] you some boys >> they've been honored here actually
[01:26:30] >> they've been honored here actually >> how would they know about can they come
[01:26:32] >> how would they know about can they come to the commission to
[01:26:34] to the commission to they they can and they do. Um and we
[01:26:38] they they can and they do. Um and we have supported u actually
[01:26:41] have supported u actually FFA many times and um also Tri County
[01:26:46] FFA many times and um also Tri County and their travels um FBLA
[01:26:50] and their travels um FBLA >> um sports teams. So yeah um
[01:26:55] >> um sports teams. So yeah um they do know uh because they come and
[01:26:58] they do know uh because they come and ask but uh yeah
[01:26:59] ask but uh yeah >> because my comment is that everybody
[01:27:01] >> because my comment is that everybody needs to be treated fair. I know. I've
[01:27:03] needs to be treated fair. I know. I've been here twice to see the FDLA
[01:27:08] >> that's my point.
[01:27:10] >> that's my point. >> No, I I I That's a good one. Say, I I
[01:27:13] >> No, I I I That's a good one. Say, I I appreciate that. And we do try to uh
[01:27:16] appreciate that. And we do try to uh invest in our kids all we can.
[01:27:18] invest in our kids all we can. >> Amen.
[01:27:19] >> Amen. >> Yep.
[01:27:23] Matter of fact, we got some 4 judging
[01:27:25] Matter of fact, we got some 4 judging winners, I think, or the land judging
[01:27:28] winners, I think, or the land judging that just got back. And uh yeah, of
[01:27:31] that just got back. And uh yeah, of course, Jody is partially employed by
[01:27:34] course, Jody is partially employed by the commission, so he knows to reach out
[01:27:36] the commission, so he knows to reach out for
[01:27:41] >> But that's a good point. And I
[01:27:42] >> But that's a good point. And I appreciate you thinking about our kids
[01:27:44] appreciate you thinking about our kids as well
[01:27:45] as well >> cuz I tell you what, FFA and these folks
[01:27:48] >> cuz I tell you what, FFA and these folks here, I'm not much of a business person,
[01:27:50] here, I'm not much of a business person, right? But I do know about them trades.
[01:27:52] right? But I do know about them trades. Yeah.
[01:27:52] Yeah. >> And I know about farmers, right? And uh
[01:27:56] >> And I know about farmers, right? And uh >> they're tough people.
[01:27:57] >> they're tough people. >> Yeah.
[01:27:59] >> Yeah. And there's more of them in Barber
[01:28:01] And there's more of them in Barber County than there are business leaders.
[01:28:07] >> Anyone else?
[01:28:12] >> No. All right.
[01:28:13] >> No. All right. >> Before we adjourn, I I do have something
[01:28:16] >> Before we adjourn, I I do have something else.
[01:28:16] else. >> Okay.
[01:28:17] >> Okay. >> Uh Dwayne Bent uh contacted me
[01:28:20] >> Uh Dwayne Bent uh contacted me yesterday. He is on the Chestnut Ridge
[01:28:23] yesterday. He is on the Chestnut Ridge PSD
[01:28:26] PSD and he has low water pressure and he
[01:28:32] and he has low water pressure and he sent me pictures. I'll forward to you
[01:28:33] sent me pictures. I'll forward to you all and Shaina here after the meeting.
[01:28:37] all and Shaina here after the meeting. But he had 11 lbs of pressure
[01:28:40] But he had 11 lbs of pressure at the max yesterday.
[01:28:42] at the max yesterday. Um he has reached out to the public
[01:28:45] Um he has reached out to the public service commission in Charleston and
[01:28:48] service commission in Charleston and basically pretty much yesterday it told
[01:28:50] basically pretty much yesterday it told him to go pound sand. Um
[01:28:55] his elevation is is not high enough that
[01:28:59] his elevation is is not high enough that requires a booster pump.
[01:29:02] requires a booster pump. >> It's just my opinion it's lack of the
[01:29:05] >> It's just my opinion it's lack of the tank being filled enough. there's not
[01:29:09] tank being filled enough. there's not enough water in the tank and he that
[01:29:12] enough water in the tank and he that it's why he has low pressure. He's went
[01:29:15] it's why he has low pressure. He's went through uh two washing machines.
[01:29:18] through uh two washing machines. He has an instant hot water heater that
[01:29:20] He has an instant hot water heater that will not even kick on because it doesn't
[01:29:23] will not even kick on because it doesn't have enough pressure
[01:29:24] have enough pressure >> that trigger the switch.
[01:29:26] >> that trigger the switch. >> Yeah. So, I told him that I would uh
[01:29:28] >> Yeah. So, I told him that I would uh bring it up today, at least put it on
[01:29:30] bring it up today, at least put it on record so everybody knows about it. Um,
[01:29:34] record so everybody knows about it. Um, >> is that a chronic problem or has it
[01:29:36] >> is that a chronic problem or has it gotten progressively worse?
[01:29:37] gotten progressively worse? >> It's gotten worse. Um, yeah, when he
[01:29:40] >> It's gotten worse. Um, yeah, when he first built the house, it was pretty
[01:29:42] first built the house, it was pretty good. It's never been perfect, but
[01:29:46] good. It's never been perfect, but over the last year or so, it's just
[01:29:48] over the last year or so, it's just gotten progressively worse.
[01:29:50] gotten progressively worse. >> Does this come off of 92?
[01:29:54] >> Does this come off of 92? >> I don't know where. Okay.
[01:29:56] >> I don't know where. Okay. >> I don't have any idea where that what
[01:29:58] >> I don't have any idea where that what tank he is fed from. microwave,
[01:30:01] tank he is fed from. microwave, >> but he did provide pictures and video
[01:30:03] >> but he did provide pictures and video and everything else. So,
[01:30:06] and everything else. So, >> okay,
[01:30:07] >> okay, >> I just want to make sure we get that on
[01:30:09] >> I just want to make sure we get that on >> put in the minutes, but he did reach
[01:30:11] >> put in the minutes, but he did reach out.
[01:30:12] out. >> If you get a chance to talk to him,
[01:30:14] >> If you get a chance to talk to him, >> um
[01:30:16] >> um I can tell you, you know, he just lives
[01:30:18] I can tell you, you know, he just lives out the road from me and I had the same
[01:30:22] out the road from me and I had the same issue and finally they put a new
[01:30:26] issue and finally they put a new regulator in that fixed problem.
[01:30:28] regulator in that fixed problem. >> Well, they actually came and
[01:30:30] >> Well, they actually came and took the regulator clear out.
[01:30:32] took the regulator clear out. >> Oh.
[01:30:32] >> Oh. >> To try
[01:30:33] >> To try >> and run it.
[01:30:34] >> and run it. >> Didn't help.
[01:30:35] >> Didn't help. >> Oh, wow. That's always got straight
[01:30:37] >> Oh, wow. That's always got straight >> straight piped still.
[01:30:39] >> straight piped still. >> That's all the pressure he's got.
[01:30:40] >> That's all the pressure he's got. >> Didn't do anything. Didn't do anything
[01:30:42] >> Didn't do anything. Didn't do anything to help you.
[01:30:44] to help you. >> Yeah. My my regulator read good
[01:30:46] >> Yeah. My my regulator read good pressure, but at the house I didn't. And
[01:30:48] pressure, but at the house I didn't. And they kept saying I had a leak.
[01:30:49] they kept saying I had a leak. >> Yeah.
[01:30:50] >> Yeah. >> Well, it was the regulator that was the
[01:30:51] >> Well, it was the regulator that was the problem.
[01:30:52] problem. >> Well, they they have tried that. That
[01:30:54] >> Well, they they have tried that. That didn't resolve it. So he just doesn't
[01:30:57] didn't resolve it. So he just doesn't have enough pressure in the line at his
[01:31:00] have enough pressure in the line at his >> Yeah.
[01:31:00] >> Yeah. >> coming to his house.
[01:31:02] >> coming to his house. >> Okay.
[01:31:04] >> Okay. I appreciate that.
[01:31:05] I appreciate that. >> And all the new appliances, you know,
[01:31:07] >> And all the new appliances, you know, they're not like the old ones that they
[01:31:08] they're not like the old ones that they would run on. You know, as long as you
[01:31:10] would run on. You know, as long as you had a little bit of water, they'd fill
[01:31:12] had a little bit of water, they'd fill or do whatever. Everything's electronic
[01:31:14] or do whatever. Everything's electronic now with sensors. And if you don't have
[01:31:16] now with sensors. And if you don't have pressure, it's not going to work.
[01:31:20] >> All right. Anything else for the good of
[01:31:22] >> All right. Anything else for the good of the order?
[01:31:22] the order? >> One thing, Mr. present. For those of you
[01:31:25] >> One thing, Mr. present. For those of you that travel through Bington,
[01:31:28] that travel through Bington, the gas station is supposed to be open
[01:31:30] the gas station is supposed to be open the end of this month.
[01:31:33] the end of this month. Okay. Never thought I'd be so excited
[01:31:35] Okay. Never thought I'd be so excited over a gas station, Sam.
[01:31:38] over a gas station, Sam. >> But it's scheduled to be open the end of
[01:31:40] >> But it's scheduled to be open the end of this month.
[01:31:41] this month. >> Don't miss a word if your well goes dry,
[01:31:43] >> Don't miss a word if your well goes dry, right?
[01:31:43] right? >> And I think gas is supposed to be like
[01:31:45] >> And I think gas is supposed to be like 69 cents a gallon.
[01:31:48] 69 cents a gallon. >> 69
[01:31:49] >> 69 >> or 369.
[01:31:52] >> or 369. I say B&B.
[01:31:54] I say B&B. >> No, there's not enough room for that.
[01:31:58] >> No, there's not enough room for that. >> It might be 369.
[01:32:00] >> It might be 369. >> Well, they're going to have to hustle if
[01:32:02] >> Well, they're going to have to hustle if they're going to be open by the end of
[01:32:03] they're going to be open by the end of the month. I was just through there
[01:32:04] the month. I was just through there yesterday.
[01:32:05] yesterday. >> Yeah,
[01:32:07] >> Yeah, >> that's what they claim.
[01:32:09] >> that's what they claim. >> All right. Well, that's good news.
[01:32:11] >> All right. Well, that's good news. Hopefully, that's comes to fruition.
[01:32:14] Hopefully, that's comes to fruition. All right. Setting of the next regular
[01:32:17] All right. Setting of the next regular meeting.
[01:32:20] That'll be June 1st.
[01:32:22] That'll be June 1st. >> June 1st.
[01:32:26] >> All right.
[01:32:31] >> June 1st.
[01:32:33] >> June 1st. >> All right. June Monday, June 1st at 5:00
[01:32:35] >> All right. June Monday, June 1st at 5:00 p.m.
[01:32:42] And with that, I make a motion to
[01:32:45] And with that, I make a motion to adjourn.
[01:32:46] adjourn. >> Second.
[01:32:47] >> Second. >> Have a motion to second. All those in
[01:32:49] >> Have a motion to second. All those in favor signify by saying I.
[01:32:51] favor signify by saying I. >> I.
[01:32:51] >> I. >> I. Motion passes 30. We are jer.

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